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The IU Report with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell (2.170.5) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: You are listening to the IAU report with Grant Shouse and Mike Hutsl, a couple of days late this week, just couldn't get the crew together, but I say this very loosely every Tuesday on the Central Indian sports report and it's very least every week on the Central Indian sports report.
• 0:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back, IAU fans to the IAU report.
• 0:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Grant Shouse with Mike Hutsl did I finally, finally, I've recording this IAU report after.
• 0:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: days and hours of negotiating and trying to line up times, it has finally happened and Mike, we've got quite a few things to discuss tonight, including Indiana's dominant win over Oregon on Monday night, and also their overtime win against Wisconsin last Saturday, a lot of things to recap.
• 0:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And right now, this team's playing its best basketball of the season.
• 0:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're right in the middle of the February and hoping to be on the right side of the bubble soon.
• 1:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a good time to be playing well because you come out of that tough stretch of January where we were worried.
• 1:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: How are they going to handle that eight game stretch?
• 1:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they went through and were about dead even by the time they come out of it, then they have the Wisconsin game,
• 1:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: which we've learned since as a much better win than maybe we gave credit for at the time because what it was constant due after that they went to Illinois in one and overtime and that's not a that's not a game that a lot of teams are going to win is at Illinois.
• 1:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: So a good win there, you bounce back, you do what you are supposed to do against Oregon.
• 1:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oregon's just not a good team this year injuries of
• 1:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: derailed that entire season there.
• 1:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a shame because I do think Altman does a good job and they definitely have talent, but it's just not all coming together this year.
• 2:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Rock, uh, I was going to call them Rocky Biddle for some reason, but Nate Biddle, biggest upset of the season so far is that hairline didn't play it Purdue at any point in this college career, a seven-foot balled
• 2:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: play out every other weekend because he's got his children.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: It didn't play for Matt Painter.
• 2:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that was a really, really tough, tough loss for the boiler makers, not to get that guy.
• 2:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: But big win there.
• 2:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the thing we got to talk about more than anything is Lamar Wilkers and man.
• 2:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: This guy for one season is going down, going to go down as
• 2:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: program, which is baffling to say with the history of Indian basketball being what it is, but that we got to start talking about this guy for one season as a pure score as one of the greats.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you agree?
• 2:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I 100% agree.
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: What a deal out of the portal because Indiana was battling with Kentucky to try and get him out of the portal.
• 3:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: And for them, the win that battle and the
• 3:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And as we're 41 the other night, he's we're 44 earlier in the year.
• 3:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's Penn State, you know, when he's hot, he's hot and shooting is contagious.
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think for a lot of teams and he really makes this team go when he's hitting shots and he's playing well.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: The whole team seems to rally around that and really play good basketball.
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: My thing about him is that he, he, I think is developed into this go-to guide.
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: We've kind of talked about how Indiana's needed this consistent go-to guide here to go-get points when they need it, any stuff picked in games.
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they've had him be that go-to guide at go-get those points.
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: and crucial points to the season and especially here of late.
• 4:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was big in the U.C.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: L.A. game in that way and he was big against Purdue.
• 4:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's big against Wisconsin and against Oregon and you expect that out of arguably your best skilled offensive player to be able to go out and
• 4:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: play well, hit shots when you need him to and control the game.
• 4:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's done a really good job at that of late and this is the guy that again played mid major college basketball for a while.
• 4:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: He came from Sam Houston state where ironically enough played against Indiana last year in the final season of the Mike Woods and saga and then makes the flip over to Indiana.
• 4:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think a lot about his development and the way he's come as a shooter is a lot to do with the coaching that's around him.
• 4:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: They have really developed him into a nice score.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't believe he has any eligibility next year as that character could he come back for one more year.
• 5:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Dude, in the NCAA, do you really know anymore?
• 5:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a good point.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: They may find that he didn't take a class his sophomore year and so that year doesn't really count academically.
• 5:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: So he may have, you just don't know anymore.
• 5:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: We just found out earlier today, Trinidad Chamblas had his tonsils taken out a few years ago.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: So now he gets another season at Old Miss.
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Charles Bidiaco tried to go to the Julie comeback, but he can't.
• 5:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: So they took his eligibility.
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's, I don't know who's eligible, who's not eligible anymore.
• 5:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I talked to Greg briefly during this week and whenever you get put on a list, there's certain names where if you hear the discard did something that hasn't been done since another guy before him did it if you're in Indiana player and they put you on a list with George McGinnis.
• 6:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you've done something that hasn't happened since George McGinnis played, which is like two conference 40 point games in the same season,
• 6:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: you pay attention to that.
• 6:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's a name that draws eyes.
• 6:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don Shlunt.
• 6:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's Don Shlunt, not a guy, a lot of Indian fans know, but he's probably one of the greatest players in the history of the program, but he also played when Purdue was claiming national titles, I think, back in like 1907.
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: So not not a lot of televised Don Shlunt highlights out there,
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he was a guy who put up huge numbers at Indiana and Lamar is going on list with Don Shlunt.
• 6:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, you notice things.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: A tower chain is the big-tins all-time league score and Lamar is doing things that Kaver Cheney didn't do in his time in Bloomington.
• 6:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's crazy that this kid has come in and we saw it and like Grant said he played a Sam Houston state last year and I think he had 10 threes in the game at Assembly Hall.
• 7:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we were familiar and there was a reason everybody at Indiana wanted this kid because we saw it first in and thank God for Mark Pope taking him to see horses when he was
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: down in Lexington because the picture is that you saw of Lamar on his recruiting trip at Keland in Lexington, which I think would be a slam dunk for UK fans, but for a UK, but Lamar just did not seem like he was feeling it at the racetrack that day, and I think Indiana's money came through a little bit higher than what Kentucky was willing to do, which is baffling because I know what Kentucky spends on a roster.
• 7:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: But that's just a huge win.
• 7:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: to come in and say, look, I got this guy from same Houston state.
• 7:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: He became a second team all big 10 guy, probably is what he'll end up maybe a second round in me, a draft pick.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: He did something similar with an Indian high school kid, Javon Small at West Virginia last year.
• 8:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Got him into the second round.
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's showing that he can take a talented perimeter player.
• 8:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: develop him for one season, showcase him for one season and get him an opportunity to in the in the NBA that maybe this you didn't know that they were going to have.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think this is a huge recruiting piece for Darren de Vries.
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a huge developmental piece for him to display.
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, and quite frankly, this team is not anywhere near where it is without getting the Marwokers.
• 8:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so that this has just been such a huge addition and such a huge season for Indiana, because of what this guy's been able to do.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Again, I feel like we talked about a lot on this one and I think we said it in the past, is that the guy was an absolute steel kind of flew under the radar out of the portal last year
• 9:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Brim to come in and do what he's done is really been incredible.
• 9:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I like where the program's at right now, I, you can see this team right now, Mike is playing really good basketball.
• 9:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're figuring out how to play with each other.
• 9:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're figuring out how to win games.
• 9:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're figuring out how to fight through adversity.
• 9:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what teams that go into the NCAA tournament do.
• 9:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what teams that win a game or two in the NCAA tournament can do is they can find ways to win games and high pressure situations and close them out and do their job down the stretch and that's what this team's doing right now.
• 9:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to jinx it.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know they've got a big one with that one only on Sunday, then they go to play Purdue.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then you close it out with Northwestern, Michigan State, Minnesota, but my gosh, this team really has an opportunity down the stretch year to play itself onto the right side of the bubble if they're not already there into the NCAA tournament right now.
• 10:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I can't leave them saying this, but for the first time in a few years, this team has been fun to watch.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: This program has been fun to watch recently.
• 10:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it really has.
• 10:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think like one thing that stood out to me and grant you read the game.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: So was I and I've heard people talk about it.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: There was a moment in the second
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: This team is has bought in two daring to freeze and it kind of maybe felt like for the first time all year where I felt okay this team is fully together they're with their coach it's Lamar gets the ball it's the second half Indian has got the lead they're expanding on a six point half time lead Lamar gets fouled hitting a three.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: And to freeze is on the court getting Lamar off the court like picking him up and like high five and and this is what we do this is what we do he kept saying it and like the excitement that the team displayed the excitement that the coach displayed and they've all bought in and the NIL air you just don't know what you're going to get are you going to get a bunch of guys that are there for a paycheck I think.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: To some degree, everybody wants to criticize Woodson's last team, but there was a big part of that with that team.
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: It just kind of felt like a team that was called together with money.
• 11:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: There wasn't a lot of pride.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: There wasn't, how many videos did we see last year of Umar Balo just kind of half ass bending over, trying maybe to try to get a loose ball, but darn it, he didn't get it.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not going to sit here, there's people that are like, well, this guy was at the casino in the Bahamas and this guy was at the, I was like, I'm not here to trash guys, but sometimes it's pretty obvious what the motivation is for for being involved.
• 12:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that the buy-in was full for anybody on last year's team.
• 12:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: If the checks didn't clear, I don't know that they would have been showing up this team not to sound like you're, you're.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Uncle on Facebook this says I love this team for playing for the front of the jersey.
• 12:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not always that, but I do get the sense that this is a team.
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is a group of guys that like playing together.
• 12:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is Connor in right, just bushing his ass and being a freaking public nuisance every time he takes the court.
• 12:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And If that guy played a Purdue, I would freaking hate every bit of everything that he's ever did.
• 12:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: He would be Chris Kramer.
• 12:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: to me.
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: But the fact that that guy's the fact that that guy's on our team, I love it.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they've come to get and since he's taken over as the starter and
• 12:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: They've played so much better and this isn't a trash takin' Conorway.
• 12:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just feel like the offense moves better with one point guard on the floor.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: So they've got to figure that figure out a way to make that work.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just, you know, maybe if it Conor does a play 38 minutes a game, that may not be the worst thing, but I don't think you can ever go back to the two point guard line up that didn't seem to really mesh as well.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: But Lamar, he's going to be a beloved player.
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Tucker, I think we all thought was going to be a better score than he has been, but
• 13:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Becca has played his ass off and he's been a great facilitator.
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: He said a lot of games of five plus assist lately.
• 13:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's been a much better player overall.
• 13:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think I think a lot of Indiana fans thought, okay, this guy's going to be a 24 point of game, 20 point of night guy.
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's going to hit four or five threes again.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's not necessarily what he's been.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's been a
• 13:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: guy who makes a tough play that you don't really think he's going to make he gets a rebound that we probably didn't expect him to be the guy that's going to get and he's I'm not going to say he's a hard-nosed guy but he does seem to be a guy that brings the team together kind of holds it together and just overall it's been it's been a fun team to watch at the beginning of the year we all kind of rolled our eyes football season was going on we didn't really have to pay attention
• 14:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: But since footballs ended, this team's done a lot of things to earn goodwill and earn the trust of the fan base.
• 14:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm with you.
• 14:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I hope it continues.
• 14:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I hope this ends up being a tournament team.
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's a huge win for the freeze and it's for season.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: And right now with the path they're on, I think that they are.
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is not a situation that I think Indiana,
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: is getting the best possible scenario to walk into on Sunday.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Illinois, a top five team in the country going into last weekend, played at Michigan State, suffered a tough, tough, tough overtime loss there.
• 15:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: They'd come back, they played Wisconsin.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wisconsin kind of has to feel like they stole one the way in the in a they feel like Indiana stole one from them So Illinois goes on they go on the road be Illinois.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: So Illinois's coming into a game on Sunday on a two game losing streak and this is not a team that is expecting to lose a lot of games They're the euro I'll just say they're the euro trash of the big ten
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: They start a bunch of huge European dudes and Keaton Wawgler who will be an NBA lottery pig.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you've watched them at their best, go watch the Purdue game, where Wawgler scored, I think almost 50.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're big guys, we're hitting three's late in the game, they have good facilitators.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just a team that plays a very mark ofic, a guy who doesn't play above the rim,
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: uh... can just dribble and do some sort of half and he looks like he's playing y and c a ball and he's about forty three but it's effective uh... everybody on this team does its role doesn't well they got a kid out of cathedral who's a dead eye forty some percent three point shooter
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Davis is his name.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: So was a state champion for a and Indiana, I'm pretty sure I could do drill.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just over a hog, a really, really good team, just a good team and Gray and I don't know how much you've seen Illinois this year, but Illinois with a two game losing streak going there, Ken Palm loves the Eli and I says this is the most efficient offensive team in the history of
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: at one point this season, and they've got a 12 point favorite right now on Kimbong.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be a tough tough Sunday for the losers, but I hope people don't get discouraged by that.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just have they do not come out.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Eleanor, I have they do not come out.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Play the way they did against Purdue or it's going to be a long Sunday after games for IU fans.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: In champagne, you have a natural television spot on CBS, so, you know, the, it, it gives the fan at home the early feeling of March.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's going to be a rockest environment, the atmosphere is going to be really, really good.
• 17:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think in Champagne and I'm excited to see this Indiana team compete.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to be very excited to see them compete as you know that Illinois is going to be able to come out and do what they did to produce.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it would buy far be the biggest win of
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to make a point on what we were talking about earlier before I got kicked off and disconnected because my phone hates Riverside for some reason is that especially in college sports, your team really reflects how your coach acts and how your coach is.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's any sport, that's basketball, that's football, you know, we saw with Indiana football, the way Kurt Sigmetti acts is the way the team kind of played, right, and your coach is kind of the face of your program.
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Unless you have like an unbelievable player like Cooper Flag is was the face of the Duke program, was a really John Shire.
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: But more times than not, your coach is
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: how your coach behaves, how your coach acts on the sideline, how he conducts himself, reflects back to your program.
• 18:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: And in the end, I think the basketball program right now, as of right now, right now, as of recording this in February of 2026, the program reflects the way Darren de Vries acts, which is, again, I think the guy
• 19:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think his ego is as big as the state of Indiana like Mike Woodson's was.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's a little short elf with little man syndrome like Archie Miller.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think he's a barking seal like Tom Green.
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a normal dude that's coach basketball that has a good personality.
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: really loves the game and bodies the game cherishes the game.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's what's big here.
• 19:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he and his behavior reflects the way Indiana basketball has needed to reflect.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't need to be in the spotlight for the negative reasons like it has been in the last 10 years.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: or you're firing a coach constantly, you're playing down in your competition and not conference play.
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're losing the bad big 10 teams.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: In my opinion, I think that his behavior reflects the way this program should be.
• 20:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I really do think he's got this team where each speed he's gonna get in there.
• 20:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: You made the point about Umar Bala earlier and trig all the way.
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Trag all the way was the white dude that let ice go basketball and Indiana that fit the mold of what we all think in an Indiana University basketball player should be in a way.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Him and Anthony Leald, the hometown kid.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those guys, I mean, cool.
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're from Indiana.
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: They play at the state school, but like, where they've at fun to watch.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Could you really stomach them that much?
• 20:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that Indiana's got guys here who we talked about it before the Purdue game where I don't know if they understand the heritage in the rivalry because they're not Indiana kids and I can't believe I'm saying this but that maybe what this program is needed is guys that really haven't known the expectations from this program are coming from other programs with
• 21:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: a different expectation that Indiana basketball and are just like, yeah, I mean, we're just doing what we're doing and we're buying into what Darren de Vries is telling us, which again, you're right, my, you can see it going back to what you said about how you can see this team is buying in or has bought in to what he's been preaching and again, you, you could not be peaking or or playing basketball at a better time.
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we saw this scene play really, really well.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: It started the season.
• 21:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: They beat teams later, supposed to beat on like the Marquette game, the Kansas State game, then they take the slide that lost a little bit, lost the Kentucky.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: It lost a couple big 10 games with the shit of loss.
• 22:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: They blew, they blew them the brass to game.
• 22:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those games only make you better down the stretch.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that Indiana is going to be able to.
• 22:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: work through that I think they're going to be able to play their best basketball here and getting to keep their foot on the gas and it's going to be a big opportunity Sunday over there in Champagne to do so.
• 22:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe playing at Champagne isn't the worst thing.
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I do know that there are two conference losses have come at home.
• 22:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: They've done two or three conference losses have come at home.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: They've been a really, really good road team this year.
• 22:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: They've won at Mackie.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: They won at Nebraska.
• 22:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: They went over time at the Brousalins Center.
• 22:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, they're home losses Wisconsin and over time and Nebraska in December.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: So they're a good team.
• 23:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's no downplaying how good the silenoid team is, I call them Euro trash, but they're they're definitely built on European based the v-sage brothers, Merkevic, just still yoc of it, even though his dad was an NBA player, he's obviously not he's a Balkan, so, um, by birth birth right, so.
• 23:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: And underwoods on record, he's like, I love recruiting these euro guys because they come in with a different mindset than a lot of American youth players do they, they, they, there's just a different mindset that they have, they're not spoon fed everything the way a lot of American high school kids are these days.
• 23:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think you guys have now talked trash about American kids Europeans and John Shire.
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, John Fierre sucks.
• 23:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: So quick questions real fast.
• 24:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Mike, first of all, do you remember the Nick Anderson Jay Edward's game?
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, do I remember it?
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've seen plenty of videos of it.
• 24:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: But you're on the list of worst moments that is simply a hall that's ever happened.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was pretty young when it happened.
• 24:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I was
• 24:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it's definitely not a good memory for Indiana fans.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we'll just, yeah, we won't practice games of it.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Was that the game that Jay Edwards hit that shot right before that?
• 24:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yes.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's that's it.
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: For the conference championship.
• 24:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Next question.
• 24:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can don't think I really need a prediction for Illinois.
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you guys are both said Illinois's, you think they're going to win?
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 25:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: So where would the odds of I you making the tournament right now, Mike?
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they're on the right side of the bubble.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they'd have to play themselves off of it.
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: A couple more wins would not just
• 25:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's four games that I think if they could win two of them would absolutely lock them into the field.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: If they wouldn't, one of them, I think it would increase their odds by probably 75%.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: If they won three or four of them, then you're talking maybe even like a six or seven seed, maybe even a five.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: But these decks too, on the road, Illinois Purdue,
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Then they have the home game against Michigan State, which would be an opportunity for a quad one, and then that last game of the regular season, they go to Columbus to play Ohio State.
• 25:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: If they win two of those four, I think that you're looking at a team that's very right side of the bubble, Dayton's not even in the conversation, maybe even something better than in eight seed is a possibility.
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I still think you're probably going to get in, but you're probably looking in that eight, nine, ten, possibly Dayton track.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: When two of those four get a big ten, turning you in, and then we sit home uncomfortably on selection Sunday.
• 26:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it ain't awesome, don't sorry Grant, not a lot of cut you off, but don't lose
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to see this team in the tournament and win a game or two.
• 26:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe Indiana has been at the second weekend in over 10 years, I know they have it.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that would be major strides with this program in the first year with Dan DeVareez.
• 27:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, if you're going to be an eight or nine seed and win a game in the tournament.
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's no question you're going up against a one seed in the second round.
• 27:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, the task with all that's not always the case.
• 27:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I do remember a team, I do remember a team a couple years ago being a one seed and losing to something called fairly Dickinson.
• 27:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, I'm glad you brought that up because I did want to segue.
• 27:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're not guaranteed anymore.
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: to play a one seed in the second round.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I do want to make that notation.
• 27:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you go ahead and finish what you say.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Mike, I only said that because I wanted to throw you that lob to thank you.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
• 27:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: You become you become a great setter for the spike grant.
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, we should we should play a pair's beach volleyball sometime.
• 28:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm good with it, man.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's do it with no.
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Indiana will be unveiling a new statue of Bob Knight at Indiana University next year later I guess later this year next season I should say and it's about time I'm not necessarily shocked that they're doing it figure they do it a lot sooner but it I thought it was really cool as a fan
• 28:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: see the guys from the 70s 16 back there the other night and for them to be honored and for Pat to be back represent the night family and just just a really neat experience that statue is going to be sweet.
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be curious to see how they sculpt that thing and what it's going to look like.
• 29:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't believe it took this long to get something like that.
• 29:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know that
• 29:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: portion of the state road 45 between, uh, I can't remember what the, what the street there are.
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: One of them's college Avenue, uh, will be Bob Knightway at some point here in the future in Bloomington, which I'll be really neat.
• 29:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a cool way to preserve the history with.
• 29:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: impact the guy made on the state of basketball.
• 29:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not so sure that basketball in the state would be what it is today without.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: His impact is the coach at Indiana at Indiana University and I'm really excited for for Pat.
• 29:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I met Pat a couple times it was cool to see him there the other night and see others other guys.
• 29:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Quinn Buckner, grab in the mic was unbelievably cringy but
• 29:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: it is what it is and Scott may be in there was cool Kent Benton Kent Benton Miss friends with my grandma and high school at Newcastle High School and my grandpa beat him in a game of horse one time.
• 30:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, but they probably won't be listening to this because we've already I think set an F bomb so they probably won't be listening but start I point that out.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: alive.
• 30:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's Vegas stopped even taking bets on it because it's such an even money.
• 30:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Prediction at the point that your fault back to back to the the statue.
• 30:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think we need to just come up with for a future podcast what other big tin coaching statues will look like like mid-cronen like you have to look down because it's like three and a half feet tall.
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: And like, uh, you know, bow Ryan where he's burning puppies like we talked about in the last podcast.
• 31:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's throwing puppies in a bonfire because he's just such an awful human being.
• 31:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're a BLM is we'll have a smell coming off of it.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Brett Bielamas.
• 31:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, definitely gene Katie can't play connect for because they can never get to last for.
• 31:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Matt Painter will be just one guy and a giant with like nine giants of seven feet all around him Or probably cheerleader next to him or something like that.
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, like the cheerleader he left his wife for being proposing to her Yeah, awesome, you know Bruce Weber
• 31:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: he'll be crying in a fetal position somewhere because that's what verse lover did for his entire coaching career.
• 31:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Greg, you got anything else you want to add to this, Greg?
• 32:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Come is a, oh, Tom is a wow, I have to think about that one.
• 32:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Steve Fisher, Steve Fisher, it's like the statue gets done because
• 32:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: You just have to finish it.
• 32:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Lou Henson.
• 32:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh gosh.
• 32:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: A bad haircut.
• 32:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You want to have a statue and slap it to someone.
• 32:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Clint Clim Haskin, somebody else actually built the statue for other than who said they did it.
• 32:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kind of like his players did with their reports for years.
• 32:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Joby Halls is handing out cash.
• 32:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Joby Halls is, it's an actually an ATM.
• 32:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: You can go up to it, it gives you money.
• 32:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Based on how fast you can run, how high you can jump at spits out money, right?
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like me, you us three go up to, we can learn a nickel.
• 33:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: But Sean Kim, Sean Kim goes up and there's just like a FedEx box, don't drop from a drone somewhere, Greg, if you had gone in 1990 when you were winnings, you know, 200 meter dashes to the, to the Joby Hall statue, we don't know what you regard.
• 33:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: We need to get AI on this project.
• 33:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: What?
• 33:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, statue of all big 10 coaches would look like.
• 33:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: If opposing fans, get to make it.
• 33:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Get the sculpt of statue.
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: The Washington coach of statue would be like nobody because nobody can name a Washington basketball code in the history of their program.
• 34:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: the guy who looked like the character from super troopers like Lorenzo Romar it's right what would date all hang opposed to our super troopers on the wall it'd just be a Nike box that's right oh man I got a little out of control but you should have been there
• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: the nights working at the new sent-o with my console, the things we would talk about.
• 34:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Usually sports not always, but for five years I was never not entertained by that man.
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for listening, please join us again next Tuesday.
• 34:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: The next Central Indian Sports Report hopefully.
• 34:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: The Central Indian Sports Report is a product of ITG media, and I love Susie.