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The Flyers Are Making Moves For The Rebuild! (PST Episode 556) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Hey there, everybody, it's Jeff. We wanted to let you know we
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  recorded this podcast episode on Wednesday, March sixth, twenty twenty four. By
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  the time you hear this, some things may have changed here or there with
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  some of the subjects we get into on this podcast show, but we hope
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  you enjoyed the show. All right, everybody, you're listening to the Philadelphia
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  world. That's right close to eleven years. This April it will be eleven
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  years of doing this podcast. I'm Jeff Warren. I'm here by good buddy
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  Eric Leonard. We've got a great show, Eric, Man. How you
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  doing, Man, I've been better. But this is a little weird.
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  This is a little weird this podcast show. You and I never look at
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  each other. We're on Skype now, we never look at each other.
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  But we decided to do it at this point in time for some reason after
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  so many years. It's really weird. I'm doing a test rum with a
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  new laptop and I turned the camera on and I was like, let's try
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  it. Like like we've been We've been friends for twenty some years and we
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  never look at each other during the show. No, like it's really weird.
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  Actually yeah, like, oh yeah, we're gonna get shot. And
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  of course me, I was like, my Harlo coquet, even it's not
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  gonna be on video. Hair looks great, man, yours, thank you.
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  I just got it done at the parlor. Yes, my salon.
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  I love Andrea. She's great, she's great. Well, we got a
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  great show for you this week. We're we're gonna, of course get into
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  Jason Kelsey's retirement. We're gonna actually play part of his clip of the speech
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  where he actually talks about the fans and uh, it's a very very poignant
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  and I think a very very important aspect of fandom that he talked about and
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  specifically how it correlates with the world of Philly sports. And we're gonna also
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  get into, you know, Cam Jurgens is gonna be the next guy up
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  on deck at play in the center position. He's gonna have some pretty big
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  shoes to fill. And then from there we're gonna get into the top three
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  best sports speeches of all time, especially after hearing that Jason Kelsey speech,
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  and uh, we uh, we've got some speeches of our own that we
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  have loved in the world of sports in general. From there, we're gonna
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  get into some Zach Wheeler talk. He got a three year, one hundred
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  and twenty six million dollar contract extension with the Phillies. We're gonna give our
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  thoughts there, and then we're gonna gonna get into some Sixers talk. The
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  vibes surrounding this team at the moment and the fact that look, look,
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  Ricky Consel, he's been playing some nice aggressive basketball for the Sixers. Here,
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  we're gonna we're gonna get into that a bit as well. Now what
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  we're throwing down on the table. Eric's waving his finger like, whooped to
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  do? I like this new video element you can yeah, exactly, Yes,
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  Well, what we're thrown down on the table this week, We've got
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  Ryan Quigley from Broadstreet Hockey dot Com. He's gonna join us for a discussion
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  about how the Flyers are doing here. There's some moves were made today,
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  two specific moves. We're gonna certainly be getting into that and how the rest
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  of the season may go, especially after the press conference this past week that
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  Danny Brier held and where this rebuild is going. So let's get into some
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  Eagles talk the fact that yes, an era is over. Jason Kelsey is
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  now retired as a professional football player after thirteen years with the Philadelphia Eagles.
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  You can head back into our podcast feed this past week, folks, we
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  had not only his retirement speech, but played that post Super Bowl speech as
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  well. And I was on there just talking about how much he meant to
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  the city, how much he meant to the team, the fans in general.
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  But really quick, Eric, I wanna. I'm gonna play really quick
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  for everybody out there, the part of Jason Kelsey's retirement speech this past week
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  where he talked about players who come to Philadelphia and understanding the fans, understanding
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  the media as well. I'm going to play that for everybody right now,
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  and then we'll be back in just a couple of minutes here. It's only
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  too poetic. I found my career being fulfilled in the city of brotherly love.
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  I knew that relationship all too well. Some people struggle to play in
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  this city. They can't handle the booze the media or our fans consider it
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  a great blessing to play in the most passionate sports town in America. The
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  sense of urgency in this city to win has pushed our organization, has fueled
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  it to take chances, fixed problems, and worked tirelessly in an effort to
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  win. At times you hate it as an athlete, especially those new to
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  our city, but when you've been through it enough, you learn to appreciate
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  it. No one celebrates their own like the city of Philadelphia. Athletes become
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  demigods in the city, even ones whose deeds spend decades before. The Eagles
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  are the number one ticket in town, the most talked about thing at nearly
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  every moment. With that amount of attention, you better be ready to overcome
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  the lows that will happen and be ready to persevere in the face of the
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  criticism. Yes, they will let you know when you are not performing well
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  every time, but they will also love you. If you show effort,
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  aggression, desire, the will to fight, they will love you in this
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  city. If you love it the way you love your brother, you will
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  be loved by going above and beyond to show that you care. Because they
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  care. They've been caring for generations in this town about this team, and
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  they aren't about to accept a bunch of excuses and soft ass nonsense. Representing
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  the name on the front of the jersey, something they've invested their entire lives
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  in. If you don't like what the fans and media are saying, as
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  a player, it's very easy love them, treat them like your brothers,
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  and go out and play your balls off, wear your hard on your sleeve,
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  and I guarantee you change those narratives. All right, we are back
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  and look. I mean, he was very passionate Eric. He was very
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  passionate about the fans, of course, but I was a little surprised with
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  regard to the media to an extent, because he he was essentially giving props
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  to a media that I know I've been very critical of as of late,
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  as it pertains to Aj Brown DeVante Smith, how the Philly sports media and
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  it's mainly the radio stations have been antagonizing, completely antagonizing players when they don't
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  need to simply to drum up storylines. I talked to OJ Spivey last week
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  from the Philly Philly Tribune specifically about this, But I mean, I know
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  where he was coming from with regard to the media. Folks that we have
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  on our show like Brandon Lee Gouten, Jeff Kerr, from CBS Sports.
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  There are a number of really good sports media I'm gonna say necessarily figures,
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  but folks that cover the team. Ed Kratz, who have been on the
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  show a number of times. There are really reputable members of the Philadelphia sports
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  media and Eagles media that have covered this team. And I just I thought
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  his words to everybody and to just players around the NFL too, if you
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  come to Philly, you have to expect passion. You have to expect a
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  fan base that is going to be there with you when you are trying,
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  a fan base that is going to kick your ass when you are not performing
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  the way that you should be performing. So, I don't know, I
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  loved that part of the speech because it really imbies, in my opinion,
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  Philly sports. It embodied Philly sports. I don't know what are your thoughts
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  on this, Matt Well, I mean, come at this from the perspective
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  Jason Kelsey, who, I mean, how many how many bad run ins
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  did he ever have with the media in all those years with the Eagles?
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  Really? Really really, I mean I mean it, He's He's a rare
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  exception where he never had an issue with them. He he was drafted or
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  started playing. His first season was with you know, the the Dream Team
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  of twenty twelve. Basically yeah, and like he came out completely unscathed,
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  wound up being like one of the greatest offensive linemen in Eagles history, if
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  not the best center of all time, and was always pretty much had had
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  had a free ride with the media. So and then it got the crazy
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  part is most Philadelphia Eagles don't, like, don't never want to ring right
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  before him, right and eventually catapulted into superstardom because of the Amazon Prime documentary
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  and him being the brother of Travis Kelce and the swifty thing, and like
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  he's leaving on a high note like most most athletes don't. Like he has
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  a full on media career ahead of him and has so many options on the
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  table that I mean, how many how many Eagles leave or retire and it's
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  they they have that many options, you know, Like you think of Donovan
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  McNabb, you know, you think of him like a somebody who did have
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  his jersey retired, you know, it's hanging from the rafters at the link.
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  But he didn't have that the end of the career that you're talking about,
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  like Kelsey had. But didn't finish here, right, and and I
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  mean his his his his his really with the media was was dicey at best,
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  Alan Iverson. I'm just thinking of other players that were here that were
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  like beloved and things just went horribly south. I mean, hell, Mike
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  Schmid, it was a Philly for life. Yeah, pretty much went into
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  hiding after he retired. Yeah, only welcome back with the team like a
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  couple of years later. This guy is so beloved and has so much ahead
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  of him, not just Eagles related, but just like it's hard to even
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  I can't even think of an athlete that compares to what what his career looked
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  like for this, for this city. And again you talk about the speeches,
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  the speech after the Super Bowl, the one they retired. I think
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  he's going out, uh in all timer, we could talk about that too.
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  By the way, I want to kind of throw a question back at
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  you before we go to the speech thing. Yeah, but before I say
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  it, like, I think he probably sat down with his wife and his
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  agent and they were just like, listen, you're not going to be You're
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  not going to ever be any hotter right now, media wise. You have
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  a future here. You want to be able to hold your kids and run
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  around with them. You know, you don't want to turn in one of
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  those guys that has no knees and can move perfect. Time to retire professionally
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  and personally, probably, And I mean, just what a perfect career like.
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  There's really no, there's really no. I can't think of one bad
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  thing to say about the guy, even on his way out the door.
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  It's kind of perfect. When you think of athletes that have had perfect careers,
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  there's hardly any. I mean even a even a guy like Michael Jordan,
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  as amazing as he was when he did the baseball thing. He's in
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  minor league baseball. He's playing for the Washington Wizards. Kind of just a
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  little bit bizarre type of ending to a career. Not that it was bad
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  necessarily, by the stretch of the imagination, a little bizarre. One guy
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  I think that kind of went out on top would be Shack. I would
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  think you could say that Shack kind of went out on top, but not
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  to where Jason Kelsey is. I think you're right, Eric, I don't
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  think any single app I cannot think of an athlete as much as on top
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  of their game as Jason Kelson so he is right now and what he was.
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  I don't think there's an athlete out there that has ever gone out on
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  top like that. I just can't think of one. No, even Shack
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  had his controversies, couldn't couldn't hit a free throw? Well, I never
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  Yeah, played for six seven different teams, like bounced around. I'm trying
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  to like, like, I think maybe Dirk Nowitzki is a good comp stayed
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  with the same team, brought a title to a team to a city that
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  never had one in basketball. Yeah, I'm thinking like, but that took
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  me like two minutes now, just thinking like, I can't even think of
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  somebody York is not going into the realm of reality TV or whatever the hell
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  Kelsey winds up doing. Like Dirk retired, he was done. He didn't
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  do shit after that. I think he's I think Kelsey's career and post career
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  is going to be one of a kind you're not going to see very often,
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  especially not in Philadelphia. And he's somehow navigated through the quagmire of Philly
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  media and came out completely on And I'll throw this question back to you,
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  and this might be another topic for the show, but think about like who
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  is who is the all time Philadelphia Eagle? Is I know right now,
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  recency bias? You want to say, Jason kelcey, I still think it's
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  Brian Brian Dawkins, Like I don't know, Like, where does he ranked?
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  Top three? Top five? It was on all time Eagles list?
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  Where does he rank? He's right there. I've read a tweet from unfortunately
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  it was from a WIP and I believe it or not, a Ray Didinger
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  of all folks, was basically saying that the Brian Dawkins and Jason Kelsey's are
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  in a tier beneath Reggie White, Chuck Bednarik, And I'm like, what
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  is what? No, I'm sorry, I'm really sorry about that. No
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  way, but he is up there, Jason kelce If that's your question,
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  I would say I would say Jason Kelsey's actually higher than Brian Dawkins. Okay,
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  I would say he's higher because he was part of an offensive line.
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  He was part of a unit that was so consequential in this team actually winning
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  its first Super Bowl ever. And I think that is what puts him just
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  over the top, because of that offensive line being so consequential with some injuries.
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  Because Jason Peters if you remember, he was injured. They had to
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  bring Big V in, but the offensive line got it done because of the
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  leadership of one Jason Kelcey. And I hear you. I'm just I'm just
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  thinking all time greats Dawkins is like I hear it, I'm safety. I
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  still think Dawkins is one tier ahead of Kelsey. I think Kelsey's right there
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  though. And but that's how I'm saying. This guy's career was like we're
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  talking about a fucking NFL center. Yes, it might be the number two
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  all time athlete on a on the Eagles team, which is like the cornerstone
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  of Philadelphia sports. Yes, it definitely helped that he had the hair,
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  the beard, He drank a shit ton, He was absolutely himself. I
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  think that really Obviously the lunch pale thing with the city Philadelphia may make fun
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  of it sometimes, but it really does work. I love Our Diddy,
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  but he is bringing his old school. That's like saying Tommy McDonald's ahead of
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  Jason. I love our Reggie. I was here for like four years.
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  Come on, I agree Ben there. I would say Ben erk Is is
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  up there with the famous hit on on Frank Gifford. They won a championship
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  pre Super Bowl. YEP. I think ben Arek's definitely top five, maybe
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  even top three. I think he's in there, But you know, I
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  can't put Regie White up there. I think I think it's Dawkins, Kelsey,
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  Ben Erick and maybe maybe maybe I'm not thinking as I'm missing somebody,
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  But I don't know that that's a discussion to have, like another show,
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  that's a good discussion to have. Yeah, yeah, that's a good discussion
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  to have down the road for sure. And I mean, as we're looking
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  at this Kelsey retirement, it's going to change the Seagulls offensive line. I'm
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  glad, of course, we're all glad. Of course Jeff Stoutlin is sticking
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  around. He's going to be able to coach these guys. He's the best
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  in the business as an offensive line coach. And I'm so grateful that Jason
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  Kelcey had the or I should say, how to say in who his replacement
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  in the future was going to be. They drafted Cam Jurgens last year and
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  he was able to become a great, great starter at the right guard position.
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  He's going to be moving over to center. It's who Jason Kelsey said,
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  this is the guy. This is the guy to take my spot when
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  I eventually do retire, and it's Cam Jurgens. Now he's got some big,
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  big shoes to fill. And this offensive line is going to change a
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  bit here, It really is, because now we don't know who the right
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  guard is going to be. That's a discussion for another time. But I
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  have a feeling Jason Kelsey may be sticking around. I don't know anything.
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  There hasn't been anything tweeted out about it about him coming to training camp helping
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  out the offensive line, helping out Cam. But he's going to be there
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  for Cam Jurgens. He's going to be showing him even more and helping with
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  Cam jurgens development. And if there's one thing that has been consistent for all
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  these years, Eric when it comes to the Philadelphia Eagles, it's the offensive
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  line and how solid it has been. Jason Kelsey's been so much a part
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  of that, him, Lane Johnson and now Landon Dickerson as well Jordan Mylatta.
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  So the center position, man, it's going to be really interesting to
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  see how it all plays out. You know, one thing that jumped out
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  to me after you got through the speech. I'm on Twitter, ex whatever
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  watching the key. The things that really jumped out to me were people are
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  actually like posting Kelsey highlights on the field, right, yeah, not speeches,
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  Like he was just blowing dudes up from the center position, allowing like
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  forty yard touchdown runs. You're just like, my god, this guy was
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  phenomenal. Like anyone who like a nerd who watches offensive line play, Yeah,
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  like like jerked off over this guy. Yeah, absolutely good. That
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  jumped out of me too. I was like, man, not only was
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  he just like perfect for the city, it was just a great player.
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  I'll ask you this. I thought about this when I saw the topic.
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  Do you think it's is it harder to fill the shoes of an alzheimer or
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  is it harder to fill the shoes of a failure and all the pressures on
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  you to like step up, like say say okay, Like who was the
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  guy? In twenty thirteen, the Eagles drafted that defensive end weighed like two
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  hundred and thirty pounds. It was one of the worst draft picks of all
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  time. Do you remember his name in twenty thirteen? It was, Yeah,
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  it was. It was one of the worst draft picks they ever had
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  twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, I remember that. I think the twenty twelve
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  draft it was the right it was the right tackle, Danny Watkins. Well
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  that one, but there whatever, Like you have a horrible draft pick,
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  guy doesn't work, you get drafted to replace that guy. Is it is
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  it more pressure to replace that because that person was such a failure. If
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  you don't succeed, you're going to be a triple failure, double failure.
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  Yeah, whereas you're replacing an all timer. But there's such good will for
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  that person and for you to step in. Do you think it's harder to
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  fill in the al Teimer or the harder to fill in the complete draft bus
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  failure. I think it's I think it's harder to fill the shoes of somebody
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  who's an all time great. By the way, twenty fourteen, I think
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  you're thinking Marcus Smith. Yes, yes, Marcus Smith for the draft.
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  Yeah, yep. So so in that case twenty fourteen, we're going ten
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  years ago. Thank god for one Brandon Graham who was able to step in.
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  They were able to You were able to either draft players or acquire players
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  through free agency that really were able to take the failures and kind of mask
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  them, and I think that's why it's a little easier to do that.
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  You look at Danny Watkins again, him being drafted. I think it was
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  twenty eleven he was drafted, and it's like, Okay, after a year,
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  you knew it was a terrible, terrible draft, and you were actually
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  able to get somebody in there who was actually able to play the position after
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  that, And I'm actually forgetting who the right tackle was after that because Lane
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  Johnson wasn't drafted until twenty thirteen. Lane Johnson's now been in the league for
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  over over ten years. So I think it's easier to fill fill that void
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  of the failure than it is to replace somebody who's an all timer. It's
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  just a question I had in my head. I was walking the dog because
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  I think a dumb show and I walk the dog just mindless nonsense. I'm
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  just thinking, like I think, for Cam Jurgens, this is actually this
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  is a this is one time where it might be easier because he's kind of
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  anointed by Kelsey, like this is my replacement. Yeah, just dollon in
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  the house. This guy can do it. And I think most fans know
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  that, man, I Marcus Smith, I'm sorry, I'm just blown away
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  again. I remember when they dropped him and seeing a picture of my dad
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  and I going, this guy looks like a basketball player. What the like,
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  who the hell is this guy? But that's a great one. Like
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  Brandon Graham stepped up and took like took that spot, and he was like,
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  but I'm sure I did back of his money. He's like, oh
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  my god, if I don't do this, I'm Marcus Smith too. A
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  disaster this is And then you got to deal with the media. I don't
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  know. I just had that thought, like, man, what a I
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  don't know what's worse but the good luck to Cam Jriggerd's it's not going to
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  be you're filling the shoes of a Hall of famer, not just a Hall
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  of Famer, but a guy's going to be on the Today Show and all
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  over the social media, and it reminded constantly that you were replacing one of
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  the best of all times. Absolutely well, this is all a good segue
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  the Jason Kelsey speech that he gave his retirement speech. Again, like we
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  said, you know, we knew that he gave that amazing Super Bowl speech
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  post Super Bowl speech. It's a great segue into our next topic, which
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  is our new top three list here at the PSD podcast show the top three
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  best sports speeches of all time, Eric Buddy, I'm gonna let you start
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  first. What's your number three? Here? Okay, my number three?
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  Number one? I like really short. I love like like locker room or
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  like waiting to go on the field speeches that are real short, really fiery,
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  like let's go kick some ass. Yeah, And my first one is
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  read at the halftime of some Miami game. This is it right here.
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  I'm hard. Don't don't ask me if I'm all right? Hell no?
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  What me? They dominate and we not doing it. I'm putting my heart.
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  Let's man's and that's all it is. Like the dude separated his shoulder,
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  they popped it back in, he put his ads back on, he
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  goes out there, they go out into the stadium, they're down seven.
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  I was like, you pussy's. I am so hurt. My heart is
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  in this and you are just let me to held down, like, oh
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  my god. And he's one of the biggest ball like let my nuts hang
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  out kind of players all time, So like I can't imagine being his teammate
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  and being like, I played all right in the first half and he's in
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  my face, going, really, I step aright my shoulder, you want
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  to step on maybe out Like, I can't imagine playing with him, dude,
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  it would make me step up. I love that little speech. That's
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  a great that's a great speech because he's basically just punching you in the face.
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  He's punching you in the fucking face with words. That's what that was
• 23:38
  right there, because you yes, yeah, I love that. Look my
• 23:45
  number three. Eric. It is definitely some recency bias here because I am
• 23:49
  actually gonna go with Jason Kelsey's post Super Bowl speech. Yeah, I have
• 23:55
  to go with it one because again the recency bias, the fact that the
• 23:59
  Philadolph Eagles actually won the Super Bowl and we never thought, I mean,
• 24:03
  in doing this podcast as long as we have, we never thought we were
• 24:04
  going to see that day. We never did. But that speech specifically honed
• 24:11
  in on the fact that folks didn't believe in the team, not the fans,
• 24:15
  because they were the underdogs that year. They were wearing the dog masks
• 24:18
  in the playoffs and at the end of the season there it was the national
• 24:22
  media. It was a bunch of pundits who did not think that this team,
• 24:26
  this the Eagles team in twenty seventeen, was going to go to the
• 24:29
  super Bowl. Jason Peters was injured, Carson Wentz injured in that La Rams
• 24:33
  game. It was over franchise quarterback done. Nick Foles of course does what
• 24:38
  he does and he just went through as we know, Jason Kelsey did the
• 24:42
  list of every starter on the team where somebody doubted them, and it was
• 24:48
  the most Philadelphia speech, Philly sports speech ever And that's why I got to
• 24:52
  put it on here. That's my number three. I mean, big dick
• 24:56
  Nick Yes, and just someone who lived in Philadelphia and had experienced the numbers
• 25:03
  parade multiple times. It's it's an absolute piss fest ship show. I love
• 25:10
  it. I lived there for a while, but it really is a disaster.
• 25:14
  And those those I bring it up because those costumes are fucking heavy.
• 25:18
  Yeah, there's a lot of ship going on. And he wore the full
• 25:21
  fucking regalia grade knowing full well that he would be beloved. You think that's
• 25:26
  what I'll give that dude credit for. He's from what Cincinnati? I think,
• 25:30
  ye Ohio, Well, Cleveland Heights all right, I think it's called
• 25:33
  Cleveland Heights. Yeah, yeah, but he's from He's from an area that
• 25:37
  like loves where they live. Yes, and he understood Philadelphia right away.
• 25:41
  I mean, what didn't take him long for him to wear that ridiculous fucking
• 25:45
  outfit that I can piss in and pukene for many many years. What a
• 25:52
  what a what a just bo on the on on the gifts. That's just
• 25:56
  perfect. He understood the city so well. Yeah, absolute, all right,
• 26:00
  who's your who's your number two? Here? Uh? Number two?
• 26:03
  I will say number one. I'm not a fan of Red Sox Nation,
• 26:08
  just not. I have a new love for Boston after being there recently.
• 26:14
  You and I have talked about that on the show and not even sure on
• 26:17
  the show, but whatever, Boston, good city. But David Ortiz after
• 26:23
  the Boston bombing the marathon on TV live TV just saying this is my this
• 26:33
  is our fucking city. Awesome and then they're not going to dictate our freedom
• 26:37
  to us and then stay strong, which became a huge thing on the shirts
• 26:41
  and became like a rallying cry post you know, post that bombing, and
• 26:47
  just kind of became a thing for Boston and kind of across the country.
• 26:51
  The States strong thing. But just the fucking nuts on the dude to say
• 26:56
  this is our fucking city on live TV just fantastic. I love it.
• 27:00
  There's a reason whenever you go to any of the casinos up there in Massachusetts
• 27:04
  or Connecticut, and that dude, that dude's placard, that dude's cardboard cutout
• 27:11
  is everywhere, Like he is a god up there, just like Jason Kelsey
• 27:15
  is in Philadelphia. And I think that speech has a lot to do with
• 27:17
  it. I think that's great, that's great. I love these I love
• 27:19
  your speeches here. Like you said, it's not like these long speeches of
• 27:22
  people, you know, it's just the little nuggets of people talking, which
• 27:29
  are speeches, of course. But you're absolutely correct, he is a god
• 27:33
  up there. And that's one of the reasons why that speech after the bombing.
• 27:37
  And you know, as much as I have disliked the Red Sox for
• 27:42
  many, many years for various reasons, he's one guy I've actually always respected,
• 27:48
  I really have, whether he was playing in the field or even you
• 27:52
  know, off the field too. You know, of course, there were
• 27:53
  some off the field type stuff with him, every now and again. But
• 27:57
  he just a stand up who loved his city and I got a given credit
• 28:02
  for it. He's he's a top twenty. I would say if he played
• 28:06
  for the if he played in our city beloved, Oh yeah, we would
• 28:11
  have worshiped him with a short porch and left field. I'm sorry, right
• 28:15
  field, he would have. He would have destroyed in Philly. He's a
• 28:19
  top twenty all time. Like if he played here, we would have loved
• 28:22
  him absolutely all right. Well, my number two now is where I start
• 28:26
  going with the softy stuff. I start going with the softy stuff. Jimmy
• 28:33
  Valvano, That's what I'm going with here. Appearing at the first SB Awards
• 28:38
  back in nineteen ninety three, as many no, former North Carolina State basketball
• 28:45
  coach just gave an emotional and very motivational speech while accepting the Arthur Ash Courage
• 28:51
  and Humanitarian Award of Valvano. He was suffering from cancer at the time,
• 28:55
  announcing that the the foundation. He announced it there and urged everyone to quote,
• 29:02
  laugh, think, and cry every day words that also appear on his
• 29:06
  tombstone anyway. He said, cancer can take away all my physical abilities,
• 29:11
  it cannot touch my mind. It cannot touch my heart, it cannot touch
• 29:14
  my soul, and those three things are going to carry on forever. And
• 29:19
  what a what a great speech. If you go back and you actually listen
• 29:22
  to it, you just kind of look, you may get a little misty
• 29:25
  here and there. It was a great, great speech. Uh what's my
• 29:29
  number one? So? Oh that one was your number one? Oh see,
• 29:32
  I had it. I had a okay, So that was that was
• 29:34
  your number one? All right, Well give me your thoughts on why it
• 29:38
  was your number one, because it was a gun wrenching Oh my god.
• 29:44
  So I listened to all the speeches. I was walking my dog earlier just
• 29:48
  to rehear them, you know, And I haven't heard the I didn't listened
• 29:52
  to val. I listened to valvan speech like once a year, just to
• 29:55
  check in. Yeah, because the sentiment is so it's just so beautiful,
• 29:59
  and it you get older, you start to understand it more because he was
• 30:03
  he was a he was a guy kind of facing his fate, and he
• 30:06
  had a family and he had kids, and and you hear in your twenties
• 30:10
  and you're like, I kind of get it. You're in your thirties,
• 30:11
  you have a kid and you're your forties and like your you know, the
• 30:15
  potential of cancer as you get older kind of you just you just it just
• 30:18
  it has different meetings in your life. Every year you hear it. Every
• 30:22
  year you take a little piece of it out. Like I probably didn't relate
• 30:26
  to the laugh or yeah laugh cry being thought thing when I was in my
• 30:33
  twenties third but now now I'm like completely understand it, like that that is
• 30:36
  a day just like Jimmy's Jimmy V said at the time when I remember,
• 30:42
  ten years after it came out my dad had cancer. I remember here,
• 30:45
  I remember listening to it at post that and just being like, oh my
• 30:49
  God, Like it was like a punch to the stomach. But like I
• 30:53
  said, like every single year I listened to it, and I'm like,
• 30:56
  man, he really like he really had the word, Like he he knew,
• 31:03
  he knew who he was, his life was just like his life was
• 31:07
  like the end was right here, yeah, and he knew it and he
• 31:10
  just had all this great perspective. But not just that the God was fucking
• 31:14
  funny. Yeah, Like the beginning of the speech was phenomenal. He talks
• 31:18
  about talking to Rutgers basketball because he was a fresh he was a freshman coach,
• 31:22
  and he did the Green Bay Packers screw up. But the best part,
• 31:26
  by far is when the guy's like flashing the light saying you have thirty
• 31:30
  seconds, and he just goes, get the fuck. He's like, I'm
• 31:33
  gonna talk for however long I want to talk, and he goes, phenomena,
• 31:37
  buddy, Yes, she does the hands. He was phenobena. He's
• 31:45
  like, I'm gonna die in a month, asshole, Like I'm exactly,
• 31:48
  here's your thirty seconds. Yeah, thirty seconds. I got two years old
• 31:53
  my body. I'm gonna be dead in a few weeks. Jerk off.
• 32:00
  Oh my god. And that's the thing with that speech. The three things
• 32:04
  he talks about make you laugh, make you think, make you cry.
• 32:07
  He does all the three things, all those three things to me in that
• 32:12
  speech. A like that. That's how meaningful that speech is. To man,
• 32:15
  it's amazing. It's a great number one. I was actually thinking about
• 32:19
  doing that for my number one too. But I mean, I'm actually I
• 32:22
  actually got Lou Garriggs his Luckiest Man speech. I mean, so many of
• 32:27
  us who love sports know that speech where he says for the past two weeks
• 32:31
  you've been reading about a bad break, he said, a bad break?
• 32:37
  Are you kidding? A bad break? Yet? Today I consider myself the
• 32:40
  luckiest man on the face of the earth. And then he said, in
• 32:44
  closing, you're or so, he said, So I close saying that I
• 32:49
  might have been given a bad break, but I've got an awful lot to
• 32:52
  live for, he said, But the fact that he is calling what he
• 32:55
  had a bad break after seventeen years in baseball. There was humility, and
• 33:01
  that's what I loved about his particular speech, his farewell speech was the humility
• 33:07
  and the human nature about it, and it it moves anybody, of course
• 33:14
  who listens to it. It was either Bravo's or lou Garrigs number one for
• 33:19
  me, So I went with lou Gherriggs. Here what strikes me about Gerrek's
• 33:22
  speeches When he says I caught a bad break break, But you want to
• 33:28
  laugh at it, right, like, yeah, you caught a disease,
• 33:30
  it's named after you. What what that fucking blows? Yeah? But when
• 33:36
  he says like I caught a bad break, that means I mean, what
• 33:37
  he's saying is like my life was amazing. I'm so lucky to have had
• 33:42
  this life, and like, I think Jimmy V's kind of has the same
• 33:45
  sentiment to it. But I still can't not think about Dennis Leary's stand up
• 33:52
  special where he's just like, yeah, God, like man, they named
• 33:58
  a disease after you, Dude, that's the worst fucking disease ever. I
• 34:02
  mean, what an honor? But what what not? An honor? That
• 34:06
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• 34:53
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• 34:57
  back. I'm gonna get in some Phillies talks, some sixers to and Flyer's
• 35:00
  talk. Stick around. We'll be right back. All right. We are
• 35:05
  back and boy Zach Wheeler and this Philadelphia Phillies team coming together getting that three
• 35:10
  year, one hundred and twenty six million dollar contract extension signed. Man,
• 35:15
  I love the fact, and so do every Phillies fan I think out there
• 35:21
  that I have read on social media is the fact that Aaron Nola and Zach
• 35:25
  Wheeler are going to be here for the next four years. Eric, I
• 35:28
  mean, of course, it was a no brainer. I was recently talking
• 35:31
  to one of our guests specifically about this where is it? I think it
• 35:35
  was Jeff Kerr from CBS Sports, Like, is the Zach Wheeler contract extension
• 35:40
  going to be the next big contract to get signed by a Phillies player?
• 35:45
  And yeah, that's what we were talking about on the show. It actually
• 35:47
  happened here, and it's a no brainer. Of course, it's a no
• 35:52
  brainer. But Zach Wheeler coming over to the Phillies, if you remember with
• 35:55
  D. D. Gregorius and Zach Wheeler was kind of like the afterthought.
• 36:00
  I remember during that press conference. D. D. Gregorius was more the
• 36:06
  shiny new object in Philly more so than Zach Wheeler. But at the end
• 36:09
  of the day, it wasn't for Zach Wheeler or this team would not have
• 36:12
  gotten as far as they have the past couple of seasons, for sure,
• 36:15
  And again a no brainer deal. I love it, and it's gonna be
• 36:19
  great seeing him on the mound here in Philly for the next few years.
• 36:22
  And if you remember that, the subplot with Wheeler was injury prone. Yeah,
• 36:25
  he had one great season and then you can't expect him to have more
• 36:30
  than ten games the next year. And I was fearful, and they got
• 36:34
  they got away with a cheaper deal with him, if you remember, initially
• 36:37
  because he could not stay healthy and they were bad injuries like elbow stuff,
• 36:43
  and he throws so damn hard. Yeah, but he's finally rounding it into
• 36:46
  like he's just a he's an ace and like he's getting Redy for my fantasy
• 36:52
  baseball team. And Zach Wheeler is like one of the top guys, and
• 36:57
  I'm like trying to find who has him? Is he a keeper? And
• 37:00
  I'm like, holy shit, man, we we have like a top five,
• 37:02
  top six ace and he's worth every penny of man forty two million year
• 37:07
  I know WHOA damn not bad? No, I should have kept my arm
• 37:14
  going at A. I mean, I'm not as hung as our co host
• 37:17
  Lent Huntsickerho throws ninety eight, you know, and you gave him three miles
• 37:22
  an hour. It's ninety five. It's still hilarious. I've seen him throw
• 37:27
  a baseball. He's still he still holds onto this this idea. Were you
• 37:31
  with the one Fantasy league draft at my old house before we ended up moving
• 37:36
  where cheers? Yeah? Yeah, And he threw the ball right into the
• 37:39
  ground like ten ft in front of him. I threw a monster fastball,
• 37:44
  you did, knocked the chair over? Yes, that's right, I was.
• 37:46
  I was like Dave watched, you know, and I knocked it over.
• 37:50
  I was like boom, And then Lend threw it in the cress grassy
• 37:55
  way. Zach Wheeler is not Lent hunts Sicker. And we for three years
• 38:00
  and this is the perfect pairing for a team that's obviously you know there this
• 38:06
  is a veterany V three v's at the beginning, like you had to resign
• 38:13
  both these guys because this is what you got. You have, no you
• 38:15
  got, you got start. I mean, come on, like, we
• 38:19
  know we have we know we are and you got like a two year window
• 38:22
  maybe and you you had to do these deals. And thank god he resigned
• 38:24
  because if he left, who the hell's your ace. It's part of the
• 38:29
  culture, I think. I think it's part of the Phillies culture that they've
• 38:30
  built. Of course, you know, guys not only want to come to
• 38:34
  Philly, but guys want to stay here as well. It's it's part of
• 38:37
  the culture. I can't believe it. And the fact that you know,
• 38:42
  the fact that it's weird going into this season thinking it doesn't necessarily matter if
• 38:47
  they win the NL East, doesn't necessarily matter if they win the division at
• 38:52
  this point, get in and do what you've done the past couple of years.
• 38:55
  You know, they've they they've taken apart the Braves in the postseason.
• 39:00
  Who cares if the Braves win one hundred and two games? Who cares?
• 39:02
  They've been they've been taking care of business of the postseason. They're in Miami
• 39:07
  heat of Major League Baseball. Go just get in and you're talented enough.
• 39:12
  You have Jimmy Butler in, Bryce Harper, Kuna has some knee issues.
• 39:17
  Yeah, like there's getting his knee scoped and scrape. That ain't good,
• 39:22
  man, So again, just you win any nine games, get in and
• 39:27
  just see what the fuck happens. Yeah, and Keith Wheeler and Nola healthy.
• 39:32
  You have your races. All you need is like the rest of it
• 39:35
  to kind of filter out. But for three years, I don't I don't
• 39:38
  sign the checks. So yeah, pretty too well for an ACE. It
• 39:43
  pretty good to me. So that sounds great, absolutely, all right,
• 39:45
  what are you thinking about this deal? What are you thinking about this Philly
• 39:49
  season? Philadelphia Sports Table at gmail dot com. We'd love to read your
• 39:52
  email here on the show and respond to it. But you know what,
• 39:54
  we are gonna have to take another quick break really quick here, and we'll
• 39:59
  be back in just bit with some Sixers talking, some flyers talk. We'll
• 40:01
  be back in just a bit. All right, We are back, Eric.
• 40:05
  We got to get into the Philadelphia seventy six ers here and the vibes
• 40:08
  surrounding this team at the moment. Did they actually beat the Grizzlies tonight?
• 40:14
  I've did they actually lose? Jesus Christ? Oh, Nick Nurse? What's
• 40:21
  going on here? Look, Tyrese, Maxey was out, Kyle Lowry not
• 40:25
  playing in this particular game. Not that Lowry is going to be the difference
• 40:30
  maker at the end of the day. However, boy man, it's just
• 40:34
  man not having him beat on the court. It is rough as we knew
• 40:37
  it was going to be. I didn't know it was going to be this
• 40:39
  rough, though. I mean, when you're losing to Memphis, Holy freaking
• 40:43
  crap. Vibes not all that great? Eric, I love in your email.
• 40:49
  What are the vibes of the Sixers right now? Holy shit? Man?
• 40:54
  If I live my life through vibes like some people do, I know,
• 41:00
  I'd be in a field somewhere naked alone, like I can't deal with
• 41:02
  shit. This This team sucks ass. Let's just say it right now.
• 41:07
  Yeah, you and thinking night like tonight, where the Grizzlies have no Shamrand,
• 41:14
  the Sixers have no Max no embiid that you're Toby Toby Harris step up
• 41:20
  with you making forty million. He's making Zach Wheeler money by the yes thirty
• 41:24
  five minutes by Toby Harris three for twelve from the field. Oh god,
• 41:29
  and he had eight points and six rebounds. It is incredible to me.
• 41:37
  I'm gonna I'm gonna let that sit out there exactly well, because I know,
• 41:40
  heading into the All Star heading into the All Star Break, I was
• 41:44
  looking at some stats and when it came to Tobias Harris at that point he
• 41:49
  believe it or not, Eric he was actually averaging seventeen points per game.
• 41:52
  And I know he had a pretty good first couple months of the season and
• 41:55
  started trending downward. But I read that like seventeen points per game, and
• 42:00
  I'm like, holy crap, what when did that happen? And now we
• 42:06
  just see a complete derailment of his of his effort. His I don't want
• 42:10
  to say the talent's not there, but it's more the effort where dude,
• 42:14
  he's not even take he's not even taken charges. By the way he is.
• 42:17
  I think he's the only player in the NBA charged his entire career exactly
• 42:22
  but this season, like I think he's the only NBA player who has yet
• 42:25
  to take a charge. It's something weird like that. I wish you could
• 42:32
  take a charge and just fall into a sack of money which he has stolen
• 42:37
  from because like what more, what what can you do for us at this
• 42:42
  point? Asshole? Yes, I can't stand the guy, and this is
• 42:46
  his last season with the team. I expect nothing at Nick Batoom out of
• 42:51
  campaign, But like, I don't know the vibes around the team without MAXI,
• 42:57
  without NBA. It's it's a complete waste of time. It really is.
• 43:00
  And this is not a this is not a Philly situation where you can
• 43:04
  just sneak in at the end. Yeah, and Maxim b coming back,
• 43:07
  Like, no, this is We're not gonna make the playoffs at this rate.
• 43:10
  Yeah, exactly, I beat Max. Max he's got a concussion.
• 43:15
  I He'll likely be coming back in the foreseeable future here, thank god.
• 43:19
  But that's not gonna guarantee them. That's not even gonna guarantee them one of
• 43:23
  the wild card spots. It's not you know. So so meanwhile, I'm
• 43:28
  sitting here trying to think in like an idiot, I'm trying to think positively
• 43:32
  about Okay, what do we see with this team that's actually been positive?
• 43:35
  And that's why I put next on on the topics. I'm like, Okay,
• 43:38
  you know what, Ricky Counsel, He's been playing some pretty good basketball.
• 43:43
  It's been nice to see, you know, he's we cover his stats
• 43:45
  tonight, Okay, go ahead, Ricky played nine minutes, one point one
• 43:53
  rebound. Oh god, all right, Well, maybe I take this back.
• 43:57
  I don't know. I'm just from the eye test, he's been incredibly
• 44:00
  aggressive and just I mean against the Celtics. Is play on the court against
• 44:06
  Jason Tatum in that recent game and the recent game against the Bucks. I
• 44:08
  mean, those two games really stood out with regard to his play on the
• 44:13
  court. And it seems like after the All Star break there are some positives
• 44:16
  specifically with Ricky Counsel. Not tonight against the Grizzlies for whatever reason, but
• 44:22
  I think there have been some positives with him. Jeff Hammy a switch played
• 44:25
  in a Sixers uniform. I can go out there and be aggressive. Out
• 44:30
  signs dab Tatum. I'm i gonna score any points agive. I'm basically going
• 44:35
  to Sean Anthony Ricky Council did tonight. That's that's grasp at straws here.
• 44:38
  This is bad. This is twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen process. Horseshit.
• 44:45
  I guess this is where right now, and this is We're not going to
• 44:49
  make the playoffs at this rate. I've said one hundred times we're gonna have
• 44:52
  to have an eight hour process show. I mean it's gonna be like we
• 44:59
  got to just sit and go through each year piece by piece. No one's
• 45:02
  gonna want to hear this, by the way, just me, you and
• 45:05
  Len. That's like and ten people, Simon and and uh uh uh.
• 45:12
  That's pretty much the idea. Just four weeks, We'll get Tom west On
• 45:15
  from over in England. He's awesome, Tom west from Libertyballers dot Com.
• 45:19
  We get him on too, even six hours and he'd be like tell us,
• 45:22
  I love you, but but go fuck yourself. He is God,
• 45:30
  you know. Okay, this is how I'm grasping at straws as well,
• 45:32
  grasping of straws with regard Ricky Counsel. But like, I'm like, man,
• 45:37
  this team really needs something defensively, and I'm like, they really need
• 45:39
  to get Robert Covington back from a defensive STANDFI. I was like, looking
• 45:44
  at some stuff. I actually played twenty six games this year for the team.
• 45:47
  I felt like it was like ten games. I mean, it didn't
• 45:51
  feel like he played twenty six games this year. But man, like his
• 45:54
  defensive skill set on the court they're missing, they are. I think what
• 46:00
  happens with players like him is we like fall in love with the twenty fifteen
• 46:04
  version of that person. Yeah, you know, I think we all love
• 46:08
  that version. But he's he's the His knees are made of peanut britle at
• 46:14
  this point versus of and uh yeah, it just sucks. And this team
• 46:19
  is a thirty five and twenty seven. They're just collapsing fast. It's I
• 46:25
  hope your flyers do something you said Danny Brier today? What do they do?
• 46:32
  So they they signed Sealer to Nick Sealer. He has got a he's
• 46:37
  got a four year contract extent good in my opinion, good money. We're
• 46:40
  probably gonna be talking to the Flyers. Yes, I love it. You
• 46:52
  know, I don't know anything, no idea. Did Danny Brier have a
• 46:55
  have a really polite Canadian press conference today? He had a great It was
• 47:00
  great. Okay, it was great. Well he did a few days ago,
• 47:05
  of course, like they traded Sean Walker to the Avalanche and twenty five
• 47:10
  first round draft pick so they're doing good stuff with the rebuild. Here.
• 47:15
  We're gonna get to it in a few minutes here with our guests. No,
• 47:19
  you know, we're the Flyers. We're gonna out there to play heard
• 47:22
  and it's like we heard. We're gonna work hard. They're third in the
• 47:24
  Metros Paulitan Division. They're going to the playoffs. If the playoffs started like
• 47:29
  next week, Flyers are third in the Metro. I'm gonna start making fun
• 47:32
  of him because my team, my six, ain't gonna make the fucking playoffs
• 47:35
  at this point. They're not. There's actual vision coming from the front office
• 47:39
  of the Flyers, and I know we're gonna get into with our guest Ryan
• 47:43
  Quigley in a bit. But it's like good stuff. And Bill Seeler is
• 47:45
  gonna be a huge part of this. Bill Sealer, it's Nick whatever,
• 47:51
  Bill, Hello, Hello, Bill Im Stealer is my favorite? You say,
• 48:01
  Tom sever Tom Sealer? Yeah, I was saying Severer. All right,
• 48:09
  buddy, I'm gonna let you go here. Do you have anything else
• 48:12
  before we head out? No? No, okay, I do the show
• 48:15
  next week. I have nothing going on. Yeah, if you want to.
• 48:19
  I mean, I was gonna reach out to lend. Let's do it.
• 48:22
  I like this video thing too. I kind of like it's way better.
• 48:25
  It's way better because I can like watch your face and I know I
• 48:30
  can say something stupid. I know when too. Yeah. So, and
• 48:34
  after Friday I got oh, you got exactly all right, We're gonna tell
• 48:43
  you a quick break, folks. We'll be back in just a bit.
• 48:46
  All right, we are back. Let's get to what we are thrown down
• 48:50
  on the table this week. Lots of flyers talk. Let's get to it
• 48:52
  and now on the table and joining us from broad Street high Hockey dot Com.
• 49:00
  You know we love Broadstreet Hockey dot Com. I am a subscriber,
• 49:02
  you know, we love the folks over there. And it's his first time
• 49:06
  on the PSD podcast show. We've got Ryan Quigley, Ryan Man. How
• 49:08
  you doing, Buddy, Jeff, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me
• 49:12
  on the pod. Yeah, this is yeah, first time I've been on
• 49:15
  this pod. It's it's I mean, I've been seeing you guys all over
• 49:17
  Twitter for all these years, so good to you guys. Absolutely, it's
• 49:22
  great. You know, we've had Kelly Hinkel on over the years. We've
• 49:24
  had some other folks from the broad Street Hockey crew on and it's great to
• 49:30
  finally have you on, and what a day to have you on, Ryan,
• 49:32
  because again, like we mentioned earlier in the show, it's March sixth
• 49:37
  Wednesday. I'm sorry here this week where Flyers are making some moves, Buddy,
• 49:43
  I am so I'm just excited for this Danubrier, I don't even want
• 49:46
  to call it an experiment at this point, because you know, we're we're
• 49:50
  about a year or so into his tenure, and it's amazing that they've traded
• 49:57
  Sean Walker to the Avalanche for twenty twel twenty five first round pick Nick Sealer.
• 50:01
  Even though he's on ir right now, he's going to miss at least
• 50:05
  a couple of games here. Signed him, i should say re signed him
• 50:09
  to a four year extension. Man, it is exciting times here in Flyers
• 50:14
  Nation. Things are happening. This has not been the case the last two
• 50:19
  years. We're right before we started hitting record, like Chuck Fletcher, these
• 50:22
  things do not happen in the Chuck Fletcher era like this. This is very
• 50:27
  much a product of the change, like you know, the writing of the
• 50:30
  ship, the change in leadership here and Danny Bay Baby he's making things happen,
• 50:36
  so you got to be happy about it. Absolutely. I think we
• 50:38
  knew Sean Walker was probably on the way out, but look, he's been
• 50:44
  a fantastic defenseman this year for the Flyers. And again, you know,
• 50:47
  a did I say a first round pick because I think it is. I
• 50:52
  think, okay, a fifth round pick in twenty twenty six from the Flyers
• 50:57
  and also a first round selection in twenty twenty five. Along with Ryan johannesson
• 51:05
  Oh my Gosh, I freaking mess up names constantly on this podcast. That's
• 51:07
  the stick here. You're new here, Ryan, My stick is especially in
• 51:12
  hockey. I screw up names time and time again. Folks email us and
• 51:15
  they're like, Jeffy stink. You can't even say Smith correctly. So you
• 51:20
  a great sport to be messing up in the names. Exactly, there's quite
• 51:23
  a few of them to mess up in Exactly. It's a great deal here,
• 51:27
  though, it's a great deal, and certainly this team and this organization,
• 51:30
  you know they're gonna miss Sean Walker. But he was here for a
• 51:35
  reason. He was here for that veteran presence, I think, to help
• 51:39
  some of his younger core players out, and I think he's done that,
• 51:43
  and we appreciated everything he's given to this team. But I think we all
• 51:46
  kind of saw this coming. Yeah, I mean the writing was kind of
• 51:51
  on the wall, like honestly since before the Flyers even traded for him from
• 51:55
  LA. So I wrote a story a couple of weeks ago. I interviewed
• 51:59
  Sean walk one on one and I basically said, like, you know,
• 52:02
  walking me through what's going through your mind ahead of the trade deadline, Like
• 52:06
  the rumors are out there. I'm sure you've heard them. He can't really
• 52:08
  escape them, Like how do you prepare for the trade deadline when you're in
• 52:14
  the position you're in now? And he basically said, I'll be honest with
• 52:16
  you, like I've kind of known that I was probably going to be dealt
• 52:20
  at the trade deadline since my day's in LA. Because it's like, listen,
• 52:23
  I'm an expiring contract. They're probably the Kings are probably going to trade
• 52:28
  me this year, and then next year, next year's trade deadline, I
• 52:31
  might get moved again. So he and his family have kind of been like
• 52:36
  preparing for this for a long time. Yeah, So it's it's a crazy
• 52:40
  thing, but like I'm happy that it's worked out the way it has for
• 52:44
  him, like for himself, because listen, he had an amazing year this
• 52:47
  year, or he has had an amazing year this year. He's been arguably
• 52:52
  the Flyer's most steady defenseman. I would say he has been yep. And
• 52:55
  you know, after dealing with what he dealt with, he had that rough
• 53:00
  acl MCL injury that destroyed as I think it was, the twenty one to
• 53:04
  twenty two season. Comes back played twenty twenty two to twenty three, not
• 53:09
  totally one hundred percent. This is his first real season back at full health
• 53:15
  in a couple of years. And so he's playing great, and he deserves
• 53:20
  to go somewhere to a contender where there's like a legitimate shot from to win
• 53:22
  the Cup. Because listen, as good as the Flyers are playing right now,
• 53:27
  they ain't winning the Cup, Jeff, I'll tell you right there.
• 53:30
  And like people can say, oh, you never know what happened to the
• 53:32
  playoffs, but like, let's do what I think we know. Yeah,
• 53:37
  like let's maybe chill out for a second. So I'm glad to see him
• 53:40
  go to a legit jug or not team and the Flyers get the first round
• 53:45
  pick. So like both best of both worlds. Both sides win absolutely real
• 53:51
  quick. Want to get your thoughts on the Sealer extension here. It's two
• 53:55
  point seven million dollar annual average pay that he is going to be getting from
• 54:02
  the Flyers overall four years to ten point eight million dollars, an extension that
• 54:07
  sees him staying in Philly through the twenty twenty seven twenty twenty eight season.
• 54:13
  Another win I think for this Flyers organization and for Danny Brier and what he's
• 54:16
  been doing here in the front of office. Yeah, I don't mind the
• 54:20
  extension. Early on, yeah, earlier on today I heard, you know,
• 54:24
  there were some reports saying it could be up to three point three mil.
• 54:28
  To me, I think that would have been a pretty serious overpay,
• 54:30
  And I guess you could argue that even two point seven is a little bit
• 54:34
  of an overpay. But what I'll say is that he is he does bring
• 54:39
  a lot more to the table than what's just on the ice. And now
• 54:44
  on the ice, like he we just saw him last season in the season
• 54:47
  before he was in and out of the lineup like it wasn't it was pretty
• 54:52
  regular that he'd be a healthy scratch this year. He's been legitimately good.
• 54:57
  Like legitimately good, he leaves the entire NH block shots and he they revere
• 55:04
  him in the locker room like he's one of the more popular guys in the
• 55:07
  room. And I feel like that is valuable. I feel like that truly
• 55:12
  adds. It's a lot like Scott Lane. Like yes, last year we
• 55:15
  heard the rumors about Scott Lawton, probably like they turned down a first round
• 55:19
  pick for Scott Lawton because they thought that his leadership abilities were so valuable.
• 55:24
  And it feels like that's kind of a similar vibe to what Nick Steeler brings.
• 55:29
  Now. What's interesting is if there's if I have one qualm with this
• 55:35
  extension, I do think it's the term because I feel like four years is
• 55:38
  just like three years. I'm like okay with right. It's like he's about
• 55:44
  to be thirty one in June, Like he's not exactly young, and what
• 55:47
  he has put his body through is insanity, like he was on the other
• 55:52
  night he got knocked out of the game after the UH late in the second
• 55:58
  period, but then he comes back in the third and like, I mean,
• 56:00
  who knows what happened to is what his foot even looks like right now.
• 56:04
  Yeah, can't even have met probably the size of a blimp, but
• 56:07
  you kind of touched on something really quick. Ryan though that I talked to
• 56:10
  your colleague over at Broad Street Hockey, Kelly Hinkel about it some time ago.
• 56:15
  There are certain players within professional sports that bring that intangible aspect of leadership
• 56:21
  to a locker room and just to the guys off the field, off the
• 56:24
  ice, off the court, and there is something to be said for that.
• 56:28
  And I think in this day and age of professional sports, there are
• 56:32
  folks that can be paid more money simply because of their leadership and what they
• 56:37
  can bring to a younger core and what they can bring to the overall vibe
• 56:42
  and feel of a locker room. It's that intangible, and it's like,
• 56:45
  how do you put a value on it. I don't necessarily think you can.
• 56:49
  It's one of the reasons why I really don't have an issue with this
• 56:52
  particular contract extension in this resign, because we're talking about that, We're talking
• 56:57
  about those intangibles here, and that's why again, I have no issues with
• 57:00
  it at all. And he's one of those guys. He's just one of
• 57:04
  those guys, and I'd love to know that he is in there in the
• 57:07
  locker room with some of these young guys, really teaching them the ropes and
• 57:10
  and showing them what this game of hockey is in more ways than one,
• 57:15
  on and off the off the ice. Yeah, and you're totally right.
• 57:19
  Yeah, Like, and another thing about Seiler is he kind of has this
• 57:22
  vibe of being like an alpha dob monster when you're like, when you're a
• 57:29
  teammate of his, like, imagine, like you've seen how fiery he is.
• 57:34
  He's got that fire in him, and you know, imagine being his
• 57:37
  teammate and then you miss an assignment and like you know, you missed the
• 57:40
  past to him or something like I would not have to chew it out by
• 57:44
  Nick Seeler. Right, He's the kind of he's the kind of teammate who,
• 57:46
  like, you don't want to disappoint him because one he'll probably kick your
• 57:50
  ass and two he just he seems to be that type of leader like you
• 57:55
  just you want to make sure that you're playing well when you're playing next to
• 57:58
  him. So yeah, I don't know, he does bring absolutely that element
• 58:02
  of like leadership and you know, just kind of those intangibles. Yeah,
• 58:07
  And so I actually saw something I saw people online kind of comparing him to
• 58:14
  Nick de Laurie, and I feel like there are a lot of different I
• 58:17
  think that's an Apple's an orangest situation because Nick Delaurier, he does bring those
• 58:22
  intangibles. He's got the toughness, the grant, you know, the locker
• 58:25
  room leadership like you name it. He's got that. But I don't think
• 58:30
  there's any denying is on ice capabilities are definitely limited. I think Nick Sealer
• 58:37
  has legitimate on ice capabilities are that bring serious value to the table. And
• 58:42
  then when you add the leadership and the intangibles to it it, then yeah,
• 58:46
  I think you could argue that two point seven is a totally fair figure
• 58:50
  for him and that four years is more than enough for him to kind of
• 58:53
  leave his mark on the Flyer's locker room. And there are young guys for
• 58:58
  a long long time. Yeah, I think it's a good thing for sure.
• 59:00
  But as we're moving along here, Ryan, I wanted to I wanted
• 59:04
  to reflect on Danny Brier's press conference that he had this past week where he
• 59:07
  said, you know, quote, everything is on the table in terms of
• 59:10
  the trade deadline, and I know we just got into some of those moves
• 59:14
  that were made here with this front office. But by the time some folks
• 59:19
  here this podcast, trade line is gonna likely have come and gone. There
• 59:22
  may be more stuff coming down the pike. We're not sure, But I
• 59:27
  wanted to get your opinions in a more general sense of what your overall thoughts
• 59:30
  were concerning that press conference with Danny Brier from this past week. Is it
• 59:35
  pertained to where this team is really heading this season? When you reflect on
• 59:39
  that press conference, what was like your biggest takeaway from it just in terms
• 59:44
  of the direction and the pathway the team is going. Well, not too
• 59:49
  much of what he said surprised me. I think, honestly, if there's
• 59:53
  anything that kind of impresses me with these trades that we have seen and that
• 59:59
  you know, the ones that we may see in a couple of days,
• 1:00:04
  I think they're being really true to their word. And I think there was
• 1:00:07
  a lot of worry the last couple of days after hearing some reports from certain
• 1:00:10
  people all about you know, on thirty two thoughts on on Monday with Elliott
• 1:00:15
  Friedman and Jeff Merrick. They basically said, Oh, I wouldn't be surprised
• 1:00:16
  if they go out and buy and I think a lot of we'll kind of
• 1:00:21
  creep out a little bit when they hear that, But because that just completely
• 1:00:25
  would have contradicted every single message that Danny Brier and Keith Jones and the entire
• 1:00:30
  triumvirate of leadership has told the fan base. And so it's good to see
• 1:00:36
  them following up and holding true to their plan and their mission of building for
• 1:00:42
  the future, because that's what this is. That's what the trade of Sean
• 1:00:46
  Walker. That is absolutely weird looking to the future because they're in the playoffs
• 1:00:52
  and they just sold it off probably their best defenseman, or at least one
• 1:00:57
  of them, given the fact that this team is real with injuries in terms
• 1:01:00
  of the defenseman exactly. I mean Jamie drys there, I mean Risto,
• 1:01:05
  I mean the list, it appears to just go on and on. It's
• 1:01:08
  a long laundry list of guys and defensemen who are injured. Oh yeah,
• 1:01:13
  yea yea. If there was ever a time to keep the defenseman, that
• 1:01:16
  would be it, because you have no defenseman to play, yes, But
• 1:01:21
  they decided to go ahead and make the leap anyway, and I think that
• 1:01:24
  deserves serious I think I think it's commendable. I really do. They're sticking
• 1:01:30
  to it, and I think they made the right move. So yeah,
• 1:01:34
  I think, you know, just judging off his comments, anything is on
• 1:01:36
  the table. I think that's the right mindset to have. I mean,
• 1:01:39
  we still got a couple of days here. Scott Lawton's out there. I
• 1:01:43
  don't know if if he'll get moved. Honestly, I don't think he will.
• 1:01:46
  I don't think he will. Yeah, I don't think he actually will.
• 1:01:50
  But like, who knows, Like if they get offers, maybe not
• 1:01:52
  necessarily for Scott Lotten, but if they get offers for someone else on the
• 1:01:57
  team, who knows what can happen. And I feel like that's the right
• 1:02:00
  mindset that you have to have, not only just as a general manager for
• 1:02:05
  any team, but specifically for a rebuilding team like the Flyers right now.
• 1:02:08
  So yeah, there's another gentleman on this team that I wanted to get into
• 1:02:13
  and not necessarily the most popular guy by any stretch of the imagination on this
• 1:02:19
  team, but he's a member that has really been shown us some stuff recently,
• 1:02:23
  and that's Tyson Forrester. Look, he has been driving play by the
• 1:02:28
  numbers and passing the two way eye test all season here. The advanced metrics
• 1:02:32
  are there for him. But the one thing he really hasn't done for the
• 1:02:36
  great majority of this season score up until recently, you know where he's he's
• 1:02:40
  just given some really clutch performances and getting the puck into the back of the
• 1:02:45
  net. So I'm wondering, Ran, how would you assess Tyson Forster this
• 1:02:50
  season and what he means for the team moving forward here. Well, so
• 1:02:54
  he's been good all season long. Now we're starting to see him find hitting
• 1:03:00
  the back of the net. And it's it's funny that, like the one
• 1:03:02
  era he wasn't excelling in was goal scoring because that draft back in twenty twenty,
• 1:03:08
  that was his thing. Like that, all the scouts are just like,
• 1:03:12
  man, you know this kid has skating issues, but boy does he
• 1:03:15
  have a shot. And then like he comes to the NHL and he's having
• 1:03:17
  a hard time scoring goals, right, but he's everything else run And I
• 1:03:22
  think that's what the surprise was for a lot of people, was him coming
• 1:03:24
  in and not only driving play but like absolutely being just a dynamite two hundred
• 1:03:31
  foot player. I mean, he's we saw it against the Senators, like
• 1:03:36
  he created that penalty shot goal totally by himself, Like he caused the turnover
• 1:03:43
  at the blue line, he raced down the ice with the pocket, he
• 1:03:45
  drew the penalty, and then he capitalizes on the penalty shot, and it's
• 1:03:47
  just like, that's incredible work from a player his age. And it's just
• 1:03:52
  you, I mean, you look at his stats now. I think he's
• 1:03:55
  got on like five goals in his last six games or something. Yeah,
• 1:04:00
  yeah, yeah, he's just he's just he's playing like a batter. And
• 1:04:05
  the fact that he's twenty one years old is excuse me, twenty two years
• 1:04:11
  old. He the fact that he's only twenty two years old and he's playing
• 1:04:14
  this responsible two hundred foot hockey, and the fact that he's won over John
• 1:04:17
  Tartarella as quickly as he has, you can't help but be over the moon
• 1:04:21
  about this kid. He just has so much potential and just his smarts and
• 1:04:27
  the way he sees the ice and the way he plays he plays the game
• 1:04:30
  right, and yeah, I mean, what a what an awesome development.
• 1:04:34
  The Flyers are sitting right now with Forester. He's been great. It's been
• 1:04:39
  fantastic to watch him on the ice for sure. And again folks, we're
• 1:04:41
  talking to Ryan Quigley from broad Street Hockey dot Com. He is on the
• 1:04:45
  Twitter slash X. I hate saying X, but I guess we got to
• 1:04:48
  do it every now and again at Ryan Quiggs. He is a great,
• 1:04:51
  great follow Catch everything that he and his colleagues are doing again over at broad
• 1:04:56
  Street Hockey dot com. You know we love our espanations. Well you're not
• 1:05:00
  even espanation anymore? What am I talking about? Screw you? Guys?
• 1:05:03
  Did I say that earlier? I said that earlier. I swear to God
• 1:05:08
  as somebody needs to slap me in the face here. Please have Kelly slapped
• 1:05:12
  me in the face. There are many other members of broad Street Hockey time.
• 1:05:15
  I'm a subscriber, for God's sake, Dear Lord, I hate Oh
• 1:05:19
  my gosh, I'm pretty sure I said it earlier, and I can't wait
• 1:05:24
  to see the emails I'm going to be getting in the direct messages. All
• 1:05:26
  right, So we're moving along here, Dear God. As we're moving along,
• 1:05:32
  a two part question for you here in terms of development, in terms
• 1:05:35
  of, you know, what we've really been excited to see and really what
• 1:05:40
  we've been kind of disappointed in terms of seeing this season as well, because
• 1:05:43
  of course everything's not one hundred percent perfect, but we've really been seeing some
• 1:05:45
  good stuff from this team as well, given their place in the Metropolitan Division.
• 1:05:49
  So who's that one player this season, Ryan that you're most excited to
• 1:05:55
  see develop in the future and why and who you've really been enjoyed watching.
• 1:06:00
  Yeah, well, I mean I think we have to harken back to the
• 1:06:02
  guy we were just talking about, Like Tyson Forrester is his kid that and
• 1:06:05
  I mean you can't help but be just thrilled with what you're seeing at him.
• 1:06:09
  But if we have to go away from Tyson Forrester, I mean Bobby
• 1:06:13
  brink Is, he's showing some stuff. Like now, granted he's had an
• 1:06:16
  up and down year, like he started the year he basically knocked down the
• 1:06:20
  door like the big Bird emoji or the big Bird gift of him just knocking
• 1:06:26
  down the door and the yeah, like he is just he's started, he
• 1:06:30
  had that great training camp, comes in and he plays well early on in
• 1:06:33
  the season, lost a little bit of steam, was sent down crushing the
• 1:06:39
  AHL and now he's back up and it looks like he's still trying to figure
• 1:06:43
  out the You know how to get on the right page with Torts. But
• 1:06:45
  for the most part, like we see the creativity from Bobby Brick, Like
• 1:06:49
  we see what he is capable of doing. And I it wasn't long ago
• 1:06:55
  he made a I can't remember which game it was, It might have been
• 1:06:58
  against Ottawa. He made a real, real nice play where he basically was
• 1:07:03
  driving the net and kind of went behind it a little bit and did this
• 1:07:08
  no look spinning backhand passage. Yeah, and it didn't result in the goal,
• 1:07:13
  but that is a creative play that you want to see your young players
• 1:07:16
  making. And I feel like he has that creativity that the Flyers kind of
• 1:07:20
  lack offensively, Like, you know, I think he's been one of the
• 1:07:26
  This is gonna sound weird because he hasn't really been in the lineup for like
• 1:07:29
  maybe half the season, but like, I feel like he's one of their
• 1:07:31
  better power play players. I mean, he's you put him on the half
• 1:07:35
  wall, he looks comfortable and he's finding the guys. He's he's passing guys
• 1:07:40
  open, he's making the right reads, he's making the right plays. He
• 1:07:43
  might not have the points to back it up, but I feel like he
• 1:07:45
  has serious, serious potential as a power play kind of half wall guy,
• 1:07:51
  kind of like Drew. I'm I'm not saying he's he's gonna be up to
• 1:07:54
  Dreux's level, but like kind of that due spot on the half wall.
• 1:07:58
  So I like that. I'm yeah, I love such in terms of a
• 1:08:01
  development player, you know, a guy who has been developing. That's what
• 1:08:05
  we have been wanting to see with various players on this team. But on
• 1:08:09
  the flip side of things here Ryan, who's the one player that you're actually
• 1:08:13
  more disappointed in regarding their development this season? And why? Yeah, I
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  think, uh, in that respect, I think I would have to kind
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  of lean toward Igor's and Mula He's this is yeah, this is not to
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  say that he's been bad like he's he's he's hot and cold like some nights.
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  Some nights he will have a bad game and the other night still turn
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  around and it'll be one of a better looking defenseman on the team. And
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  so it's just he needs to find that consistency, I think, and I
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  have you know, I really don't have any doubts that he can get there.
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  I mean, we've seen what Brad and Shaw and John Tornrela have done
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  when they're with this blue line, like over the last couple of seasons,
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  like I mean Nick Stealer for example, last last couple of years. Yeah,
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  and now you look at Nick Stealer and he's like a bona fide,
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  you know, middle pair defenseman. And now we'll have to see what happens
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  when, uh when with you know, when he's out there without Sean Walker,
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  because I mean there's a very legitimate possibility that Seawn Walker could have been
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  driving that pair, and he was a very very good play driving defenseman.
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  But yeah, I think it's it's interesting seeing igor Za Mula just kind of
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  finding his way here. They signed him this pass offseason to like this,
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  you know, this one one year like very you know, cheap contract,
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  and yeah, I guess it's kind of like a prove it type deal and
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  uh yeah, I don't know, like you would like to see a little
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  bit more out of him, a little bit more consistency. It'll be interesting
• 1:09:46
  to see what they do with him this this offseason because I feel like he
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  does have the potential to be a real good player. He's got the length,
• 1:09:54
  he's he's a rangy guy. If we've seen that, like weirdly enough.
• 1:09:59
  He as soon as they started giving him power play minutes, he kind
• 1:10:01
  of fixed it for a second, like he got to fix the Flyers god
• 1:10:05
  awful power play right and somewhat competence. So and that's not totally on him,
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  but like he's I feel like he helped. So yeah, I don't
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  know. I think I would like to see a little bit more out of
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  him. And uh, you know, if they decide to bring him back
• 1:10:21
  next season, I think he could take some more steps forward. Very good.
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  I like that a lot, very very good. I want to get
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  into the goalie situation on this team here, because Sam Erson, my gosh,
• 1:10:31
  has done a great job this season in front of the net. In
• 1:10:35
  my opinion, he's picked up the goalie mantle. He has run with it,
• 1:10:42
  you know, since the crap hit the fan. With regard to Carter
• 1:10:45
  Hart's situation, Ryan, how would you grade Arson's season thus far given his
• 1:10:51
  backup goalie expectations at the start of the season and where he is actually at
• 1:10:56
  right now. Yeah, well, so if I had to put a letter
• 1:11:00
  grade on it, I'd give him a solid B B plus. I give
• 1:11:02
  him a B plus. Yeah, Yeah, I think he's been really really
• 1:11:05
  good. I mean you look at what he was kind of thrown into,
• 1:11:10
  like it's it's kind of coraz. Like you don't see situations like this very
• 1:11:15
  often where you know you have a starting goalie, legal situations come up,
• 1:11:19
  and then all of a sudden surprise, Sam, You're the new starter of
• 1:11:23
  the Philadelphia Flyers, right. I think he's taken this situation. I think
• 1:11:27
  he's taken the opportunity and run with it. He's been really, he's been
• 1:11:30
  excellent all year. I mean, you look at his stats a little bit.
• 1:11:32
  I mean I think he has three shutouts. Yeah, three shutouts,
• 1:11:38
  two five seven gaa point eight nine nine save percentage, so like nothing incredible,
• 1:11:44
  but like also like you kind of take you gotta also take into account
• 1:11:47
  his first few starts of the season, they were bad. They were like,
• 1:11:54
  yeah, he won twelve goals in the first two games of the season,
• 1:11:57
  like it was, it was awful. And then he came in another
• 1:12:00
  and he allowed two goals on nine shots. It was just it wasn't great.
• 1:12:03
  But like since then, honestly, he's won the vast majority of his
• 1:12:09
  games. He's been very very good. And listen, do I is he
• 1:12:15
  going to be the Flyers number one for years and years to come that I
• 1:12:18
  don't know yet. We still got to see a little bit more out of
• 1:12:20
  him, But I think he's totally deserves to be the Flyers number one going
• 1:12:28
  into next season. I think he's been very good and I just feel like
• 1:12:32
  his potential is very high. He just seems to be really mentally tough,
• 1:12:35
  Like just the way he came in and handled his whole situation. I really
• 1:12:41
  really respect just how he's handled himself. And uh, yeah, I think
• 1:12:45
  I think he's been awesome. And now the backup Cooley situation, that's a
• 1:12:47
  whole different story. Yep. Yeah, I mean cal Peterson. They tried
• 1:12:54
  it out, failed miserably. He's back in He's back in Lehigh Valley where
• 1:12:58
  frankly, I think he kind of lungs there, which is sad because a
• 1:13:01
  couple of years ago people Vadio is the air apparent to Jonathan Quick out in
• 1:13:04
  LA and so now he's an HL goalie. But I'm kind of excited to
• 1:13:10
  see Felix Sands from a little bit more because over the last couple of seasons,
• 1:13:15
  Felix s anstrum, I feel like I was playing behind some real bad
• 1:13:18
  teams. And granted, like, listen, I know Tortorella was around last
• 1:13:25
  year. Like things started getting better a little bit last year, but you
• 1:13:29
  still had that weird room. Things were weird in locker room, and you
• 1:13:33
  know Proverrob and DiAngelo, like we've heard reports that they weren't exactly the best
• 1:13:38
  fits in the room. So it just it feels like this is a much
• 1:13:43
  better environment for a guy trying to kind of really establish himself as an NHL
• 1:13:47
  player. So we'll see what Felix can do here. I feel like he
• 1:13:53
  has the potential to legitimately be a solid backup in the NHL. We just
• 1:13:57
  have to find out. Well. As we are running out of town,
• 1:14:00
  I'm here, Ryan, just wanted to bounce off one last topic with you
• 1:14:03
  before I let you go, buddy. And it's this tough stretch the Flyers
• 1:14:08
  have coming up. I mean they're gonna be playing some pretty good teams.
• 1:14:11
  I mean they've got two games against Panthers, I think coming up, two
• 1:14:14
  games against the Bruins, I got two games against Maple Leafs. They've got
• 1:14:16
  Carolina, the Rangers, Tampa Bay. What are you hoping to see from
• 1:14:20
  this young core guys during the stretch of play. You know where where there
• 1:14:25
  is some pretty elite talent, some really good talent on a lot of these
• 1:14:29
  teams here, given where they're at in the Metropolitan Division, given some of
• 1:14:31
  the some of the moves that have been made here, and there's probably by
• 1:14:34
  the time folks hear this and by the time we upload this, there may
• 1:14:38
  be actually be some more moves made. I don't know, what what are
• 1:14:42
  you hoping to see from this young core guys. Yeah, well, I'll
• 1:14:45
  tell you one thing I'm definitely hoping to see, and it's not even so
• 1:14:47
  much the young core, but I want to see how the the new Nick
• 1:14:51
  Stealer pairing fairs. Now. Brandon, I know he's out for a little
• 1:14:55
  bit. I know he's out for I know they put him on IR So
• 1:15:00
  it's going to be at least, I believe seven days. It's going to
• 1:15:02
  be a fact two two to three games. I think perhaps at least so
• 1:15:06
  helped me out a little bit. Yeah, but when he comes back,
• 1:15:10
  I'm very curious to see how the Flyers drive play with him on the ice,
• 1:15:15
  because they have you know, historically the season they'd been great at driving
• 1:15:18
  play forward with him on the ice. But again, is that more a
• 1:15:23
  is that more a result of him being out there with Sean Walker. I
• 1:15:26
  guess we'll find out. In terms of the young guys, though, I
• 1:15:30
  think I really want to continue seeing just a strong two hundred foot play because
• 1:15:35
  listen, like we've seen it all year, like a lot of these young
• 1:15:39
  like Bobby Brink, we've seen the scoring touch out of him. But I
• 1:15:44
  don't think we're going to be seeing anybody, just any of these young kids
• 1:15:46
  just all of a sudden lighting up the scoreboard night in the night out,
• 1:15:51
  because that's what the Flyers have last all season, not just from the young
• 1:15:55
  guys, from the team at large, Like goals have hard to come by
• 1:15:58
  for this team. So I think I want to see just good two hundred
• 1:16:01
  foot play from everybody, which I know sounds like such a hockey man response,
• 1:16:05
  but like I feel like when you're a young player, like it's important
• 1:16:09
  to kind of figure those things out, And yeah, I would like to
• 1:16:13
  see. I want to see Tyson Forrester continue to be like a shut down
• 1:16:16
  winner, which is crazy to say, but I would like to see some
• 1:16:20
  more of that. I would like to see Morgan Frost maybe be a little
• 1:16:24
  more physical he's been. I think he's improved in that area. I would
• 1:16:28
  like to see him kind of get back to being a point producing machine,
• 1:16:30
  kind of like how he was in the second half of last season. Yeah,
• 1:16:34
  I feel like this is going to be a time for the young kids
• 1:16:38
  to really step up because they have no choice. They have choice. Yep.
• 1:16:43
  Yeah. If there's going to be a time for them to take the
• 1:16:45
  next step and really improve their game, it's now because they have to because
• 1:16:49
  if they don't, the Flyers don't have the talent to beat these teams,
• 1:16:54
  like they just don't. They might outwork them. Like that's a very legit
• 1:16:57
  possibility. We've seen it. We've seen in them at work better teams than
• 1:17:00
  them and still lose. Great example, the Toronto Maple Leafs game, Austin
• 1:17:05
  Matthews just was like, I'm gonna score three goals tonight, I think,
• 1:17:09
  and he did. And then the New York Rangers, like they outworked the
• 1:17:13
  Rangers a couple of weeks ago, and they frankly were the better team,
• 1:17:16
  but they didn't have the bounces. So that's that's what they need. I
• 1:17:20
  feel like they need the young guys to step in and really really just go
• 1:17:27
  that extra mile during this this stretch here, because it's gonna be it's gonna
• 1:17:30
  be very challenging. It's gonna be very challenging. For sure. We're gonna
• 1:17:33
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• 1:17:53
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• 1:17:56
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• 1:17:58
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• 1:18:00
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• 1:18:19
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• 1:18:23
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• 1:18:26
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• 1:18:30
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• 1:18:34
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