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Winter Warm Up Preview: What's new with the Cards with one month before spring training · Cardinal Territory: A St. Louis Cardinals Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Welcome to episode nine of Cardinal Territory. I'm Katie Woo.
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: He's Trevor Rosenthal. Happy Winter warm up week. The event
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  Speaker 1: of the year, or at least the off season. Probably
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  Speaker 1: it is the Cardinals maybe unofficial start to baseball season.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing says baseball like still on the ground and single
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  Speaker 1: digit temperatures in Saint Louis. But we are excited to
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  Speaker 1: reunite with the organization this weekend. Anyway, Trevor, how.
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  Speaker 2: Are you, Hey, Katie. I'm doing great. Good to see
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  Speaker 2: you as always. Yeah, I'm excited for this weekend. It's
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  Speaker 2: finally here. I got something to look forward to. We
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  Speaker 2: got the big event going to be in Saint Louis
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  Speaker 2: and see a lot of familiar faces, which I'm looking
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  Speaker 2: forward to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm eagerly anticipating having at least I'll know I'll
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  Speaker 1: have something to write. I mean, this offseason has been
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: so slow. I talked about this last episode. I was
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: like aggressively chasing arbitration rumor, which is a ridiculous thing
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  Speaker 1: to do. It's ridiculous to like be like, oh, is
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  Speaker 1: this guy maybe going to get a contract or what's
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  Speaker 1: he going to make for his one year? Because I
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  Speaker 1: just hadn't done that in a while, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I feel going through our athletics Slack channel every day.
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  Speaker 1: All of these beat writers have such talented stuff. Their
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  Speaker 1: stories are so good, such in depth reporting on all
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  Speaker 1: their signings, and I'm like the person at the like
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  Speaker 1: the group party or whatever, the group project I should say,
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't contribute anything, and it's just kind of there.
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  Speaker 1: So we always get these messages from our bosses like
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  Speaker 1: great job, team, like this our baseball vertical just continues
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  Speaker 1: to crush, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, we do. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not doing anything, but the rest of you guys are
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  Speaker 1: doing great, so we'll be all.
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  Speaker 2: A little envious of the rest of the market. I'm
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  Speaker 2: there with you. I'm there with you. I can't wait
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  Speaker 2: for us to have some really good content to discuss
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  Speaker 2: on this show, because I mean, we are going to
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  Speaker 2: bring it here at Cardinal Territory. We just need this
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  Speaker 2: substance to go along with it. We go and do
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  Speaker 2: we go and carry it so far, I know we.
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  Speaker 1: Can only kind of bes for so long. We need
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  Speaker 1: actual substance to talk about otherwise, Like I don't I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, I don't even want to think about what
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  Speaker 1: we get into if this continues. So at least we
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  Speaker 1: know this weekend we'll have a ton of I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say news. I don't know if we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have actual news, but people are going to talk to us,
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  Speaker 1: so that is exciting. Interviews, press conferences, hopefully much be great.
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  Speaker 2: I love you. Had Bernie on last week. I was
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  Speaker 2: listening to him and he referred to me, or he
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  Speaker 2: referred to himself as being under me in the context
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  Speaker 2: of coming on the show, and I was like, Bernie, like,
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  Speaker 2: you are the expert here. I am I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: learn from you. So I appreciate him giving me a
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  Speaker 2: couple of shout outs. That was fun to listen to,
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  Speaker 2: and of course he is. He's always fun to listen.
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  Speaker 2: He does a great job. He knows the Cardinals inside
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  Speaker 2: it out. So great guys. You guys did a good
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  Speaker 2: job last week.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. We'll have to get uh, we'll have to
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  Speaker 1: do all three of us on our next episode because
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  Speaker 1: I definitely plan on having Bernie back. He was great. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into it before we talk about all things
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  Speaker 1: winn and warm up again. So exciting. We did have
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of news Andrew Kittridge was not expected
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  Speaker 1: to come back to the Cardinals this season. Twenty twenty five. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I got rid of Trevor. Oh my gosh, I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: so bad with the video. There we go, I'm good
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  Speaker 1: three times a charm. Andrew Kittridge has signed a one year,
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  Speaker 1: ten million dollars deal with the Baltimore Orioles. Again, he
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  Speaker 1: was not expected to be brought back to the organization,
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  Speaker 1: but still a significant departure. Nonetheless, when you think about
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  Speaker 1: what Kittridge did for this Cardinal's bullpen last year, one
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  Speaker 1: of the most efficient and reliable bullpens in the National League,
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  Speaker 1: and he was right up there and holds leaders among
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  Speaker 1: the National League believers as well. Trevor, what are your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on this signing? First of all, a nice little
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  Speaker 1: payday for Kittridge.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you love to see that. You know. It's it's
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  Speaker 2: not easy to make that type of money being the
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  Speaker 2: bullpen and especially as a setup guy. So good for him.
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  Speaker 2: I'm super happy for him. And my favorite thing, or
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  Speaker 2: I guess how I got introduced to Andrew Kittridge, is
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  Speaker 2: of him being referred to as the drunk Uncle because
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  Speaker 2: of his pitching mechanics on Twitter. So those those responses
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  Speaker 2: spurred up again with this signing, and it's fun to
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  Speaker 2: see that. But you know, a great pitcher and a
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  Speaker 2: guy that's gonna be hard to replace. I mean there's
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  Speaker 2: some that's a lot of innings, a lot of solid
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  Speaker 2: innings that are gonna have to be replaced in one
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  Speaker 2: way or another this year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny what you say about Kittridge's mechanics, because
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  Speaker 1: the first time he came out, my dad who my
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  Speaker 1: dad is on West Coast like love the Giants and
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  Speaker 1: aise growing up, but religiously watches the Cardinals, so because
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  Speaker 1: he just I mean, it's all we talk about is baseball.
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  Speaker 1: So the first time Kittridge comes out of the bullpen,
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  Speaker 1: my dad goes, this guy looks like he should be
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  Speaker 1: playing like adult league softball with his mechanics. It's so easy.
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  Speaker 1: And he loved Andrew Kittridge from that, like, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, it's still effortless, and I'm like, how is
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  Speaker 1: this guy throwing gas? He litle looks like he could
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  Speaker 1: go be like across the street playing like a pickup
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  Speaker 1: sooftball game. So we will miss that, and I think
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  Speaker 1: Cardinals fans will miss that presence. But the good news
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  Speaker 1: is because it's January, we can still be optimist. Optimist,
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  Speaker 1: I guess about the twenty twenty five season, there are
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  Speaker 1: some internal candidates to replace Kittridge, Trevor. Who you got
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  Speaker 1: Who are you looking at internally to take that next
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  Speaker 1: step up in the bullpen?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean when I look at the roster as
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  Speaker 2: it stands right now, not a ton of household names
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  Speaker 2: or names that would jump out. And you know, first
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  Speaker 2: and foremost, to have a successful bullpen, it takes the
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  Speaker 2: whole unit. You know, if you have multiple guys or
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  Speaker 2: really every single guy that's contributing in a positive manner,
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  Speaker 2: it goes It helps out everybody. It takes the stress
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  Speaker 2: level off of everybody, not not just the team in general,
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  Speaker 2: but the whole pitching staff. So it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a group effort. And it's nice that you have a
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  Speaker 2: solid piece like Ryan Helsley, and I would say to
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  Speaker 2: at the very minimum, I mean, you have two guys,
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  Speaker 2: and for me, the way I look at it right now,
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  Speaker 2: that second guy is most likely going to be Ryan Fernandez,
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  Speaker 2: a guy that can pitch late in the game, pitching
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  Speaker 2: big spots and and do it. Do a good job
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  Speaker 2: and eat up some considerable innings. And beyond that, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the doors kind of open. There's definitely a lot of talent,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of guys that I'm impressed with. I'm glad
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  Speaker 2: that they have some good depth on the left handed
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  Speaker 2: pitching side. I think that's gonna be a big help.
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  Speaker 2: But again, we're gonna have a lot more to talk
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  Speaker 2: about once we get into spring training. Right now, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's for me a lot of question marks to be
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  Speaker 2: answered behind beyond those those two guys, I.
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  Speaker 1: Agree with you. Ryan Fernandez was the Rule five pick
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  Speaker 1: last year. It is tough being a Rule five pick
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  Speaker 1: because you have to post. If you don't, you're basically,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the Cardinals can't keep you. And if you're
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  Speaker 1: at a Rule five pick, unless you're on the injured list,
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  Speaker 1: you have to stay on the active roster all year long.
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  Speaker 1: So it did complicate things from a roster construction standpoint, because,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, in the bullpen, it's all about like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: next man up, who is the freshest arm. But Fernandez
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  Speaker 1: could have complicated things a lot more if he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: as effective as he was, and he absolutely had a
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  Speaker 1: great rookie campaign, and he's going to be factored in
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  Speaker 1: for some of those high leverage spots. Jojo Romero, I
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  Speaker 1: thought we also saw how to break out year last year.
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  Speaker 1: He's a guy that's going to take the balls off
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  Speaker 1: and as he can. Man, when you think about that
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  Speaker 1: first half of the season, the Romero to Kittridge to
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  Speaker 1: Hellesley pipeline, seventh, eighth, ninth inning. Every day those guys
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  Speaker 1: posted and no one said no Kittridge would I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know. I need to know, like his strength training plan,
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  Speaker 1: his diet plan, because that dude was always down to
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  Speaker 1: pitch and even when Olie Marma was like I need
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  Speaker 1: to stay away from you, your kittridch was like, nah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm fine. And you can see that kind of mentality
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  Speaker 1: with Jojo too. But Cardinals fans they know these guys.
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  Speaker 1: They saw them last year again, a really affective bullpen
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  Speaker 1: for the club. I'm going to go with a name
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  Speaker 1: that I think most fans will recognize, but we haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen him too much at least to this point. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going Gordon Groseppo. And here's my disclaimer. The Cardinals haven't
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  Speaker 1: designated a role for him yet. I'm sure he'll come
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  Speaker 1: to spring training as a starter, as they all do.
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  Speaker 1: But if you're looking for someone that can bring high
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  Speaker 1: radar in short bursts, I think that's Gordon Groseppo. The
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  Speaker 1: biggest struggle he's had in his professional career is sustainability.
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  Speaker 1: And as a starter, of course, you know, if you
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  Speaker 1: go three innings and your stuff is great, awesome, but
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  Speaker 1: we've seen griseppo stuff start to dip after the fourth inning,
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  Speaker 1: after the fifth inning, where he's not as effective. If obviously,
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  Speaker 1: I think the best situation would be for him to
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  Speaker 1: figure out that that stuff, and maybe he has. That's
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  Speaker 1: why we can talk about it. I wouldn't warm up
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  Speaker 1: with him so exciting, but if that's not something that
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  Speaker 1: he can he's been able to fix, If that's something
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  Speaker 1: where he's more effective in short bursts, I would love
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  Speaker 1: to see what he brings to the Cardinals bullpen. I
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  Speaker 1: think we're going to see him get a shot to
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  Speaker 1: make that major league club come spring training. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the Cardinals are going to have to have some guys
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  Speaker 1: step up. Chris Croft had a nice showing early on.
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  Speaker 1: What are we gonna see from Riley O'Brien. He's been
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  Speaker 1: this of the year hurt last year, there are names
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  Speaker 1: to look at. They aren't household names like you said, Trevor,
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  Speaker 1: but they are names nonetheless. So we'll be exciting to
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  Speaker 1: see how that club replaces Andrew Kittridge, especially given them
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  Speaker 1: how important and how critical frankly that bullpen was last year.
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  Speaker 2: This is gonna sound bad, But how do you say
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Lee Lee?
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  Speaker 1: He lay he, don't worry. I mess with their names
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  Speaker 1: all the time and I just guess and then they
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  Speaker 1: tell me if it's wrong.
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  Speaker 2: So it's good, lay he he. I'm excited about him.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned Riley O'Brien. He has some nasty stuff, So
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  Speaker 2: I mean there's guys, there's some arms. When I was
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: doing some research preparing for this and watching video of
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  Speaker 2: all the guys that they have to choose from, at
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  Speaker 2: least on the forty man roster, there's options there, so
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  Speaker 2: that to me is exciting. But like I said, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to take everybody kind of piecing it together and
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  Speaker 2: finding their stride, hopefully early in the season, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: looking forward to that.
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  Speaker 1: The good news is Ryan Helsley, most likely like ninety
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  Speaker 1: nine percent, is going to be back on himself a
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: nice payday and nice raise. Well, deserved. It is some
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  Speaker 1: comforting when you're going to have a younger bullpen, most
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  Speaker 1: likely to have a veteran presence, someone who's really commanded
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  Speaker 1: last season as one of baseball's best relievers locking down
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  Speaker 1: your ninth inning. So I'm excited to see what Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Helsley has to say about his off season as well.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to it. Let's get to the main event.
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  Speaker 1: Win a warm up preview, because that's where we're at
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  Speaker 1: at this point in the off season. Trumvor, this is
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  Speaker 1: your first Winner warm up as an alum.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, that is correct, Katie, first one in a while.
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  Speaker 2: Haven't experienced the Winner warm up in a while. So
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  Speaker 2: for me, like that's it's something as a player you
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: got excited about because at this point, you've you've had
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: three months in the off season and you've been working hard,
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: and you're excited to, you know, see the rest of
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: the guys, see what their progress has been in the
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: off season. It's kind of funny because during this week
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: during the winter warm up, when you see guys, you'll
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: see the guy who maybe lost twenty pounds, You'll see
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: the guy who maybe gained twenty pounds, and so there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of uh, you know, conversation that comes up
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  Speaker 2: after you're able to kind of see everybody in person.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, aside from that, aside from seeing your
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: teammates and the staff and the coaches, it's always good
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  Speaker 2: to see, especially in Saint Louis. I mean the support,
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  Speaker 2: the support personnel. They're the people that help the most
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  Speaker 2: to make you know, make it easy for the players
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  Speaker 2: to get on the field and you know, all the
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  Speaker 2: behind the scenes stuff that you don't see. And for me,
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  Speaker 2: I always had a great appreciation for these people, and
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  Speaker 2: and so it's it's touching base with them, asking them,
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  Speaker 2: you know, how how their winter has been, how the
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  Speaker 2: holidays have been, checking in on how their families are doing,
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  Speaker 2: and that I'm excited for that as well. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: even today, I don't know how many years it's been
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  Speaker 2: since I was at the winter warm up, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure I'm gonna see a lot of those people as well.
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  Speaker 2: But even even you know, we talked about the writers
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  Speaker 2: Dinner coming up in the nineteen eighty five NL Championship team,
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  Speaker 2: seeing those guys, seeing the Red Jacket Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 2: players for you know, the Cardinal Hall of Fame players
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  Speaker 2: that is exciting as well, and it's weird now being
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  Speaker 2: an alum and kind of being put into that category.
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  Speaker 2: There might be a young pitcher on the Cardinal staff
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  Speaker 2: that's going to approach me and say, oh, Trevor, I
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  Speaker 2: watched you pitch while I was growing up, and that's
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  Speaker 2: how i feel when I see these guys. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: excited for all of those. What about what about you? Katie?
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  Speaker 1: It all comes full circle that this is exciting. I
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: know you did plenty of winter warm ups and did
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: they have Cardinal caravans when you were when you were
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: a player coming through the system.
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  Speaker 2: They did. I went on a few of those, and
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  Speaker 2: those are legendary. That's when you really get to know
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  Speaker 2: somebody more than what you experienced, just running into them
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  Speaker 2: and having a brief conversation. And I had my favorite,
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  Speaker 2: most most favorite Cardinal caravan attendee and I'm sure we'll
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  Speaker 2: see him this year was Danny Cox. Danny Cox was
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  Speaker 2: a legend and we just hit it off. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's an easy guy to get to know, he's very outgoing,
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  Speaker 2: but spending time with him on the bus in between
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  Speaker 2: stops and then overnight, you know, spending time with him
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  Speaker 2: when the day was done, I really got to hear
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  Speaker 2: some great stories and it's in as a as a
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  Speaker 2: young player. When those guys encourage you, it just elevates
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  Speaker 2: you and to get that boost of confidence heading into
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: the next season and then a lot for me. So
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: hopefully see Danny. I know Ricky Horton is always a
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  Speaker 2: fun guy, a great gentleman to be around. And then
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  Speaker 2: also a Todd Worrell. Todd Worell is a good friend
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  Speaker 2: of mine. So I hope I get to run into
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: all of those.
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  Speaker 1: All those peeps, well, I think all three of them
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  Speaker 1: will be at the Writers Center. Ricky Horton is actually
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: getting an award. I'm a big Ricky Horton fan as well,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm excited for that. I love the Writers Center.
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  Speaker 1: Look I'm biased, I understand, but I think it's it's
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: pretty unique coming outside of Saint Louis. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're thirty twenty five ish chapters of Baseball Writers throughout
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: the country and the only two chapters that still do
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  Speaker 1: an annual writers dinner are Saint Louis and New York.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason I mean New York is always going
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  Speaker 1: to have a Writers Center that it's new York. It's
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  Speaker 1: where you present the national Award. It's like MVP SI
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: Young Rookie of the Year, et cetera. But the fact
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: that Saint Louis can still do its annual Chapter award
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: is because of the community. It's because of Cardinals fans.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they we do this because there is I mean,
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  Speaker 1: tradition is so important, as we both know in this
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  Speaker 1: with this organization, but there is truly a desire from
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  Speaker 1: the community to do this kind of event every year.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's really special because I really hadn't
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  Speaker 1: you know, I didn't really know that any other chapter
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  Speaker 1: continued to do this outside of New York. So coming
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: into Saint Louis and seeing that there was still a
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: writer's dinner with our own awards, that is really I
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: think accepted and the community is excited for That's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think our program this year is really fun.
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  Speaker 1: We have some great people. But for I think when
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: a warm up, I just like to see my friends, right,
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  Speaker 1: I like to see the writers that I have. I've
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: been seen in that I spend almost every day with
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: from February to the end of September, and all of
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: a sudden, they just get like taken away from me
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: for the off season. I love seeing the broadcasters we
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: talked about Ricky Horton, Chip Carry, Brad Thompson, Mike Claybourn
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  Speaker 1: and all those guys. They're wonderful. I put Alexa Dat
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: in there, but I literally see her like every week.
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  Speaker 1: She's one of my best friends. So don't miss her
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: that much because I see her all the time. And
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: it's just nice because I think read excited for baseball.
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  Speaker 1: The holidays are over, it's January, it's cold, it's snowy,
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  Speaker 1: we're all thinking about Jupiter, at least I am, and
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: the sunshine and winter warm up. You get to kind
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: of talk to these players that you haven't seen in forever,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: the coaches too, and get a feel of what it's
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: going to be like to go back to baseball Land
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: in less than a month. So that's exciting for me.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I know that we just got today the list of
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: players that are going to be that we do interviews with,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: and the only like major league guy that I don't
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: see on there other than Nolan Arnatto, which was not
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: expecting him to come. I think it would be very
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: awkward if an organization was talking about trading a player
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: all year long and then all of a sudden he
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: was expected to come and talk about the future of
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: a team that he may I'm going to be part
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: of that. Aside, I don't see Nolan Gorman here, and
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: I think that's the only starter or like twenty six
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: man guy there that's not going to make it. Sunny
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Gray was a late addition, so that's exciting. So is
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Wilson Contraras. So these are all the guys that we
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: haven't really talked to since the end of the season,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: and I know I personally enjoy all the interviews that
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: come along with a warm up as well.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure those guys, I mean, they're probably excited
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: to get back into the baseball swing at things as well,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: and maybe that spurred them to come and join this event.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: So it's good to hear that they're going to be there.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Another name that I missed and I shouldn't have is
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Ozzie Smith. Always really cool to see Ozzie. What a
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: what a just a special person to have as a
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: as a Saint Louis Cardinal and all that he continues
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: to do for the organization. Willie McGee, Jason Izringhausen speaking
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: of Closers and Ryan and Hellsley and myself. You know,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Jason was a was a big part of my mentorship
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: in my career, so it'll be good to hopefully see him.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's I didn't know that about
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: the Saint Louis chapter being one of the only two
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: that still do this annual event. And when I think
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: about the Writer's Dinner, I think it's important. I mean,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: the writers are ultimately that conduit between the fan base
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: and the players and the organization, and you all do
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: such a good job, especially in Saint Louis, of covering
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: the team and making the information accessible to the fan base.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: And we are fortunate in Saint Louis to have such
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: a strong fan base, but I can't dismiss the work
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: that the broadcasters and the writers and all the media
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: team do to to expel that coverage. So yeah, I'm
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I'm you know, this is gonna be new for me
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: kind of brushing shoulders with the media and the writers
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: in a different form and fashion this year. So hopefully
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: there's no weird initiations or anything that I have to
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: be ready for, but I'm looking forward to that.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: No The only writer that would like plan something weird
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: like that would be me, so you don't have to
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: worry about it. I give father writers a lot of
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: patience sometimes because I say some wild things up there.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to, you know, light in the mood,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: entertain people. It doesn't always fly. They're like, why is
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: she talking? Why is she still here? So you'll be
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: safe most likely, you know.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: So I teamed up with the right person.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I'll save you to me.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I got in at the cool crowd.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Sure, I mean, if we use the word cool very loosely, yeah, absolutely,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: So I was, you know, getting into my little reporter brain.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And because I am going back to what you just
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: said about having things to share with the fans, I
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: wish I had more things to share with the fans
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: this winter. Don't get me wrong, I've taken a lot
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: of PTO. It's been nice, but like I enjoy these
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: back and forth conversations. As part of the reason why
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I wanted to start the show with you is because
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: it allows the back and forth, the conversation and then
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: sharing the knowledge that they who trusted me to provide.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: So when I was going through I was like, who
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: am I most excited to interview, and I couldn't pick
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: a couple. And it's not necessarily that I'm like ansy
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: to ask these questions. I just really want to know
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: how these people feel. So let's go and pull out
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: my little calendar Saturday. Saturday is a full day, so
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to kick it off with John
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Mozaelock around ten thirty or so. That's going to be
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: an interesting one, just because we always start with Mo
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: And you know, you can look at it two ways.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: There's either not a lot to talk about for the
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: lack of moves, or a lot to talk about because
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: there haven't been very many moves. So excited to see
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: where things stand with the what he says in a
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: public forum, right, Like what I appreciate about Winter warm
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Up is it allows these people, whether it's front office execs, coaches,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: or players, to come up and in a public forum
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: kind of share how they feel. So I'm excited to
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: see what mosays. We got some fun players Sonny Gray
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: on Saturday, Ryan Helsley, Brendan Donna, and then two of
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: your old pals will close out the day. John Jay
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: and Daniel Discalso are going to be our closing interviews
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: on Saturday. Here's something about discalso he is a good interview.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I remember, I think like the very first game of
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: spring training last year. It's his first game, if you will,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: as bench coach, and it's a split squad, which is
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: so weird. So Allie takes half the team and descalso
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: stays at the home at Roger Dean. I don't believe
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: in doing away games at spring training, so it was
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: very easy for me to stay. And I was ready
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: to grill him, just as a joke, because it's like
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: springs training. I was ready. I had all my stats.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I was going to question every decision. Why was he
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: so prepared? Why did he crush it? I was like,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: oh man, no, he was on it and he wasn't
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: even tried. Like he was just such a good interviews,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure John Jay is as well, because they
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: all come from that little branch, right like Skip Schremarker.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Fantastic interview. So maybe you should come in. Maybe you
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: should come in and grill them, because obviously I didn't
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: do a very good job.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I will try my best to grill, but I agree
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: they are never not prepared. My favorite, Daniel Descalzo story.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And this really summed up what I view Daniels dis
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Scout view Daniel as as a person.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Is.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Uh, the year in spring training when they were moving
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Matt Carpenter to second base, of course, Descalzo was our
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: second basement the year before, and and so that could
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: be an awkward situation. But watching how Descalzo handled that
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: blew my mind. He was out there every single day
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: with Matt Carpenter, showing the showing the ropes, giving him feedback,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: you know, teaching him the position, a position that karp
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: had never played at the major league level before. And
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: I just watched this go on throughout the whole spring training,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: and then it led into the season where carp kind
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: of you know, took his spot on the roster, took
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the playing time from Descalzo, and uh, I have so
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: much respect for that. That is not an easy thing
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: to do as a major league baseball player, let alone
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: just as a human being. Helped somebody take time away
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: from you. So yeah, I would never have anything bad
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: to say about Daniel Discalzo for that. But I'm all
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: for giving a hard time because you better believe that
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Daniel Descazo has given me plenty of hard times, and
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: John Jay is always right next to him egging it on.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: So yeah, let's let's go and get those guys for sure.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, you know, I love a good instigation, an instigator.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I wonder what it's going to be like to have
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Allie Descalso and John Jay all together at once, and
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: how that's going to go. It should be, It should
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: be fun, I will say. I think the Cardinals coaching
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: staff in general does a great job of being accessible.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: There are some funny guys out there, Stubby Clap, Pop Warner,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: you get down the list. I really enjoyed this year,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: the coaching staff last year, and most of them are
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: coming back. Other things I'm looking forward to at winter
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: and warm up Sunday. We got a lot of fun
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: players coming up. Pedro Pajs. He just spent about a
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: week or so down in Orange County with Nolanardotto and
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Lars new Bars. That's a pretty good company. Excited to
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: see how that went for him. Zach Thompson, He's name
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: we didn't really hear much of last year, and I
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: think the Cardinals are trying to give him one more shot,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: see what he can do. If he can make this
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: roster if he can be a legitimate piece for them.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: But the guys that I'm really looking forward to, no surprise,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Mason Win, Jordan Walker on Sunday, they're just boys them.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: We know how I feel. I'm excited.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Same here. Mason Win's my guy. I'm I'm excited to
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: you know, Jordan Walker, he's your guy. So yeah, let's
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: let's hype them up. Let's get them ready for this season.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: They got to make us look good. Speaking of looking good,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: the coaching staff. You mentioned the coaching staff. Look, this
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: is my view. I was thinking about this today while
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I was listening listening to you and Bernie. If the Cardinals,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, really, every win that the Cardinals get this year,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: huge kudos to Marvel, Descalzo, Jay, this the whole coaching staff,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: because it's a I mean a tough situation. You have
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: this kind of dual head of leadership with Mozay Loack
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and Heim Bloom and who knows who's looking over their
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: shoulder or each other's shoulder, who's really calling the shots?
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: So a challenging year. I mean, we've seen it through
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: this offseas. We talked about it almost every week. At
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: this point of no news, no news, and not much
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: going on, So I'm prepared to give them all the
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: credit that they're going to deserve for all the wins
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I love that energy. I have a quick story about
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals coaching staff. This is twenty twenty three, but
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: you know most of the people involved are still here.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: And in twenty twenty three, we don't like to talk
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: about that year. And it was September. Cardinals are in Baltimore.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Nothing matters anymore except Adam Wayne Wright chase to two
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: hundred and this if he wins against Baltimore, would be
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: win number one ninety nine. And that coaching staff, from
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Allie to their pitching coach Dusty Blake, to all the
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: subs that they did, to their bullpen catchers, to the
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: assistant pitching coaches, they managed that game like it was
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Game seven of the World Series. They did a fantastic job,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and the Cardinals ended up winning. Adam Wayn Wright gets
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: the win his next he gets two hundred and that's
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: a career. Hell yeah, Adam. But I remember going into
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: the clubhouse after and looking at Ali and I was like,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: you guys managed the hell out of that game. That
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: was so fun to watch in a season where it
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: really felt like everything was lost, to see this entire
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: coach and staff band together and execute this flawless game plan.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Because look, we cook these guys a lot when they
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: make a bad mistake or something that we don't understand
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: from a bullpen perspective, sub bench whatever. I think we
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: should give credit when credit is due, And that stands
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: out to me as one of Olli Marmal's best games.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: And because of that, Adam Waimer got two hundred and
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: we had something to celebrate and was otherwise a very
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: roose out of ear.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that was a huge highlight for me watching
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: that all happen. I remember thinking because there was a
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: few weeks where he was not getting not able to
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: get the win, and even if he came out with
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: the lead, they would lose it. And it was like,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: oh man, he was right on the edge, and I
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: wanted to send him a message so bad, like dude,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: just like come in out of the bullpen like sneak
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: a winning somehow. Stop going out there trying to pitch
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: six solid innings, five solid innings like you got to
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: get two hundred and time is dwindling. But I agree
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: with you. I watched that game and I couldn't have
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: been happier. It's good to hear from your perspective of
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: how intentional everybody was. I mean, as a as an
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Adam Wayne Wright fan, I was rooting them on. I'm
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: sure everybody else in Saint Louis was as well. And
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: that's what makes it so hard for me, at least
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: looking at this season, not having the Adam Wayne right,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: not having the Yadi or Molina. It's it's just such
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: a different feel to this Cardinals team than what I've
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: been used to. You know, mentioned John mos look with
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: him stepping down after this year, It's just it's such
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: an interesting time. I think, you know, all changes is
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: ultimately going to be good, but we're kind of in
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: the middle, and definitely in the middle right now when
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: we're talking about winter warm up preview and that's our
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: hot topic. So good times have to be ahead.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I would hope. So, you know, it's interesting to talk
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: about the the mosaic turnover, right, and it's part of
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: the reason why I'm interested for Monday. Monday is our
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: heavy hitters. We have all a talking Lars new Bar Wilson, Cuturis,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Miles Michaelis and I. They have not finalized when build
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: with Junior and Build what the third will speak, but
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: they usually speak every year on Monday, so just kind
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: of penciling that in and one, you know, it's not expected.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I think most organizations, most major league organizations are professional
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: sports organizations. To hear from your ownership group ever, is
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: you know, pretty rare. So I do you know, want
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: to commend the Cardinals ownership for speaking to the media
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: at least once a year, if not twice or three times.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what they have to say, just
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: about you know, the state of the organization in general,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: but specifically this turnover because it is a little unorthodox.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: And look, the Cardinals have been very H've been very
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: clear on why Moa stayed for one more year and
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: why heim Bloom will take over in twenty twenty six.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: We know about their succession plan, we know about the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: player development why that needs to be revamped, and this
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: will hopefully give him a head like a head start
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. But it is a little different
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: and it's not something that has really heard of throughout
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the rest of sports. So I don't know the trouble
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: when you first heard about this, what was your instinct.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: My first instinct was that it made a lot of sense.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, I have a lot of respect for blo
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Heim Bloom's resume and what he did in Tampa and
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: in Boston. You know, I think in Saint Louis we
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: have a lot to look forward to with the changes
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: that he's thinking of and already talking about. But as
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: time has gone on and now we're you know, stuck
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: in the middle of this offseason of continuing to talk
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: about a trade that's not happening and signings that will
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: most likely never happen, it makes me wonder really like
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: how does this how does this all play out? Like
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: who's calling this shots? Does hein Bloom have to get
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: a stamp of approval approval every time he wants to
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: make a decision by John mozay loock or is it
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: more of a hands off I mean, for lack of
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: better term, like are there just training wheels on this
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: on this bicycle right now? Or you know when do
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: those come off? And to me, you know, talking about
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: the ownership and you think about the ownership and them
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: making this decision, is I would be interested to hear
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: what they were thinking about that, and did they not
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: have the full amount of trust in Heim Bloom just
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: coming in and taking over right away. I don't know
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of for me from the outside looking in,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of things that just seem hard to navigate
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: in over a long season too. I mean, at what
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: point during the season, I'm sure there's going to be
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: different viewpoints from John Moselack's camp to the heinm blooms camp,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: and they want to go different directions, and who ultimately
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: has the final say in that decision make we know
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: next year it's going to be all Heime and Bloom.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: But as Cardinal fans were kind of left stuck in
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: the middle of at least for this twenty five season, right.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Because anytime that you're planning something beyond twenty twenty five,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: High and Bloom's input is obviously going to be necessary.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: And when we know that Moe is in charge of
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the lineup decision or not the lineup, excuse me, the
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: roster decisions for twenty twenty five and he's more or
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: less running the show, it does feel like Cardinals fans
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: are stuck in the middle because in order to plan
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: and for years ahead, time has to really be on
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: board with it because it's going to be his organization.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: So again, I think what the Cardinals are doing makes
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: sense in terms of the player development standpoint, but I
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: mentioned I would like to ask the Dewitz just kind
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: of for more clarity on this how they think this
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: is going the direction of the organization. Their end of
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the year press conference, which was objectively a disaster, left
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: more questions than answers, and everyone was on such a
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: time restraint, you know, we really didn't get to get
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: into anything. So I think when a warm up will
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: be a little less hectic then an end of season
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: live televised press conference. So plenty of questions, at least
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: on my end, and I know I'm certainly not the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: only reporter with things to ask about the Saint Louis Cardinals.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to doing like actual work this weekend.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: It's been a minute. Don't tell my bosses.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Back back to work, Katie. Uh yeah, you got at
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: least get warmed up for spring training, and so this
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: is your chance knock off some of the rust. I'll
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: be there. I'm gonna be right alongside you. Take it
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: easy on me. I promise not to embarrass myself. But yeah,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: if you haven't bought tickets, come see us. We're gonna
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: we're gonna have a good time. At least, that's for sure.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: We are twevor. Did you know I'm introducing I'm introducing
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: you at the Rider Center?
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  Speaker 2: You are.
• 31:43
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• 31:47
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• 31:49
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• 31:53
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• 31:56
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  Speaker 1: So keep our fingers crossed.
• 32:01
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• 32:32
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go. Thanks Katie, all right, thanks guys.
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