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Ep. 43: "Fix your reflection first" - Rhonda Farrah’s journey through breast cancer, prison, & purpose · Adventures in Adversity: an inspirational podcast

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  Welcome to episode 43, the Adventures and Adversity
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  Podcast. For those of you who are new to
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  the show, we have some return listeners here, but basically
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  it's a podcast about how people are turning life's toughest
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  adversity into an adventure across every area of life, all
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  ages, people from all walks of life, how they've turned
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  adversity into an adventure. So with that, Rhonda, I would
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  like to thank you again for joining.
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  I've been really looking forward to meeting you.
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  I've been reading about you and just kind of doing a little bit
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  of research 'cause I'm, I've just been extremely excited to
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  connect with you. So Rhonda Farah, thank you so
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  much for joining us. Yeah, I am great.
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  It is Friday, it's a beautiful day and I get to be inspired by
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  yet another guest, so I'm doing pretty well.
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  OK, wonderful. You're the title of your podcast
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  Adventures and Adversity. I mean, not only resonated with
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  me, it grabbed me OK because that's, I mean, that's what I
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  do. As an alchemist, a former
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  psychotherapist and educational counselor, I understood real
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  clearly that it's the good stuff, the joys, the successes,
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  but as well as that not so good stuff, the adversity.
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  And I've had plenty of adventures in adversity.
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  And I am here to not only share them, but to let our viewers and
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  listeners know that it did make me stronger.
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  And so that's that's why this is such an important place for me
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  to be right now, because not a whole lot of people talk about
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  adversity or everything's really going well and as they look in
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  the mirror, which is why my brand now is fix your reflection
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  first and live your best life ever.
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  And love that. It's they look in the mirror and
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  they say, oh, wait a minute, everything's not so good.
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  I mean, it might look good on the outside, but when 1 looks in
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  the mirror and I know what are you really seeing?
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  Who are you really seeing? Are you understanding that it's
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  that not so good stuff in your life that's OK?
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  More than OK. It's actually essential as far
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  as I'm concerned. So alchemy is the precursor to
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  chemistry. I am not a left brain person.
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  I never took chemistry in high school or college.
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  I think it was called environmental science that I
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  went that route. But the the irony of all that is
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  it takes we need to mix that stuff together and make it work
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  for us rather than anything less.
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  And that's what I do as an alchemist, as a coach, as a
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  writer, as a speaker. I help people help themselves to
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  do that and to look in their mirror and say, hey, I love you
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  no matter what, just the way you are.
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  You're good, OK? The, the when you mentioned the
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  part about looking in the mirror, that that is, I love
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  that you have that motto and mantra of fix your reflection
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  first, because I feel like a lot of people will avoid looking in
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  the mirror, not just to avoid like the physical, but that's
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  where you really meet yourself where like when you really look
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  in. I did some mirror work through
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  some therapy and I was like, whoa, this is this is real When
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  you really look at yourself. Yeah, it's.
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  It is and I think about all the times I also, you know, I'm not
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  immune to those days where this is not going so good.
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  I still love and like myself just the way I am not immune to
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  any of that. What?
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  So what I ask and invite clients to do or audiences is nothing
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  short of what I will do myself. Yeah.
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  And that I think that's important to realize that you're
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  going to have those ups and downs, those bumps in the road.
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  So what, what do you want to do about it?
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  And I also believe and sometimes audiences, I haven't had anyone
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  walk out yet, but they will go up one side and down the other.
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  When I say we call it all forward, the good stuff as well
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  as the not so good stuff. And it's necessary.
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  The joy as well as the crap, all of it is necessary.
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  And we call it forward. We really do.
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  I have called all my escapades and adventures and adversity
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  forward. I take responsibility for that,
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  even on a subconscious level. And I got to decide what I was
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  going to do about it. It's it's free, freeing yourself
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  from the share. Let me, let me.
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  I'm so glad the title appealed to you because that's exactly
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  what I'm going for is it's not being, it's not like blocking
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  out your past, right? Like you said, bringing it all
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  forward. It's part of that alchemy, like
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  it mixes with the good to create to actually help you find out
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  who you are. Yes.
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  Right. To peel away the onion skin as I
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  as I've learned to do quite well and lots of tears because when
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  you peel an onion, you sometime get tears.
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  However, tears are signs of side of growth.
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  Laughter is a sign of growth. And I'm here to say that even in
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  some of the most precarious situations that I never thought
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  I'd find myself in, I always was weeping or laughing.
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  So that's a sign of growth. And you make a great point the
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  the adversity. It's like not to forget about
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  it. Or I put it like, don't shove
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  those things down because what will happen is honest to
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  goodness at the most inappropriate time, it will just
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  seize. It will seize like like it.
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  And I hate to be so blunt, but I will because you'll find through
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  this interview I might get blunt.
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  Is that when you push everything down?
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  It's like not flushing the toilet, OK?
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  It will come back up like when you have a house full of guests.
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  OK, that's inopportune. So stop pushing all your boy.
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  No, no pun intended. Stop moving all your kids
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  around, OK? Stop pushing it all down because
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  it's going to come up at the most inopportune time.
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  Take care of it, as you say, OK? Anger, resentment, fear, doubt,
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  worry. Thank you for stopping by.
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  All right? Yeah, I'm all of those things.
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  I'm sad. I'm.
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  I'm disgusted. I'm everything in between.
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  Thank you for stopping by and letting me in on what it is that
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  I have to learn so that I'm feeling these feelings.
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  That is an amazing analogy that I've never I've never thought
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  about it that way, that when literally you, you, you shove it
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  down and you're not really getting rid of it.
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  It comes up. It's going to find a way out.
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  If you do not like make it seem or feel it or experience it,
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  right, that resentment now, how do you do you?
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  And then I want to get into a lot of your life as well and
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  just how you've come to this place.
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  But I think you help people actually deal with it, right?
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  So that it doesn't come up at the inopportune time.
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  That's become your life's work, right?
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  It's helping people find themselves.
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  And, and help them help themselves.
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  I mean, as when I in another life when I was a
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  psychotherapist, you know, I became very debilitated because
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  I was taking it all on. I wasn't shaking it off.
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  I'm taking it on. And then people, Oh my God, I've
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  been going to you for a month and, well, I've had three
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  sessions with you. And I would say even as an
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  alchemist now in a coach, well, how long did it take you to have
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  this lousy relationship with your daughter?
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  Oh, my God, it took years. And I go, well, you know what,
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  honey? I'm good, but I'm not that good.
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  I haven't. I I have a Harry Potter wand.
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  I do, but I won't use it because I'm here to help you, help
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  yourself. And so my style is not for
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  everyone. I'm not everyone's gal, which
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  has been proven many times over. Hey, yeah.
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  You know, but I will help you help yourself if you choose to
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  do that, if you choose to understand that whatever it is
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  you're going through is going to guide you to help you help
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  yourself. If you want to get into the it's
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  not for the week apart. It's not.
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  No, it's definitely not like the healing journey that led to this
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  podcast. And I think everybody is on a
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  journey of some kind through some adversity.
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  And we're all at like different points, but we're all on some
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  journey and the uncovering and like facing all of the the
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  stuff. It.
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  The outcome of it is so much better that the temporary pain
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  of feeling it, at least you can you're kind of controlling when
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  you're dealing with it versus it popping up at a random like I'm
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  going to deal with it right now, I'm going to feel it, I'm going
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  to face it versus I'm going to just push it and then hope it's
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  not going to magically go away. So you've gotten to this place
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  where you're in a position to help people change their lives,
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  help themselves. And you, you have background as
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  a psychotherapist. You are a mother.
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  You have been a businesswoman. You are a businesswoman.
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  You said you've done some real estate, right?
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  That was all those past lives have brought me through.
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  Brought you here. And so take me through just a
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  little bit. You know, as much as you'd like
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  the story of who you are and how and we can kind of dovetail.
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  But you know, you grew up on the East Coast, you're E coaster.
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  I'm an E coaster. I grew up in Connecticut and a
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  largely traditional family and household.
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  I had a stay at home mom and a dad preferred mom stay at home.
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  I'm the oldest of three brothers and one sister.
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  And so I was kind of the nurturer role model type.
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  I didn't wouldn't. I didn't realize it at that
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  time, but I was the. Sibling, right?
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  Yeah. And I also, I grew up in an
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  extended family. Many people know what that is.
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  Through the 3rd grade I was grandparents, my mother, my
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  father, my siblings, aunts, great aunts.
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  At one time there was 13 people in the same household.
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  Lots of love and lots of discipline.
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  And I wouldn't have changed that for the world.
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  And it was a household of primarily women.
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  So there's a large female influence that nurturer, that
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  caregiver. And I was thinking, yeah, I, you
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  know, I want to be a psychologist when I grow up,
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  whereas I'm growing, I want to be a psychologist.
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  And I have plenty of credentials and have gone that route.
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  Psychologist, psychotherapist, educational counselor.
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  But my biggest credentials are my life.
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  And that all happened. And then I call it my midlife
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  crises. Around 40 years old, this all
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  started to happen. I called it forward.
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  I found myself facing criminal charges.
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  How would you like to get a a piece of paper from the
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  government that says an indictment that says United
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  States of America versus Rhonda Farah somewhat daunting.
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  Enter adventure. One midlife crisis adventure.
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  And it was like a made for TV movie.
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  So I was incarcerated for seven years in a women's federal
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  prison camp in California, Northern California.
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  And it was, it was really educational for me.
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  But the most educational thing that happened for me was that
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  onion skin was getting peeled away.
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  I know for a long time, God, I call it God.
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  Some people say universe divine spirit was trying to get my
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  attention because I went into this business type world from
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  the world of being of service to others and God just not was not
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  getting my attention. He enlisted the help of Mother
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  God many times. But no, I was just not listening
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  and he said I am so sick of this woman actually, but it more
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  bluntly than that. She's going in a major time out
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  and I was in a major time out that pivoted me through learning
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  about myself from being going and at that time with my female
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  inmate friends, being of service to them emotionally and with
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  respect to their own physical health and how the emotions
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  determine I'll being or well-being.
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  Last place I expected to be and to be pivoted back into being of
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  service to others. Last place in the world I
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  expected. And for those who my purported
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  crimes had nothing to do with drugs or violence.
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  It had to do with business, and I didn't do my homework when
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  dealing with certain people. And I'm the best delegator there
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  is. But you know what?
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  I delegated to the wrong people and I got left holding the back.
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  But it was a necessary place. What happened to me was
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  necessary for my own healing and for my own understanding because
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  that's where I became dedicated to helping others identify that
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  authentic power within them, within each one of us to be the
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  best version of ourselves. My, those are my credentials.
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  There, there you go. And I didn't like it.
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  No, I didn't like it at all. I didn't like it going through
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  trials and every motion put in was denied for this, that, or
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  the other thing. And about a year into this, I
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  literally, I call it, I got my aha breath.
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  My aha breath was the day I stopped hitting the telephone
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  against the wall saying Get Me Out of here, whoever I was
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  talking to, a friend, a family member and attorney, I just
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  stopped. And I said, there it is.
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  There's the aha breath. Oh well.
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  Oh well. I surrendered that literally I
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  and I could feel it today. I feel my goosebumps.
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  My God bumps right now I. Just did too.
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  I feel it. I surrendered and I said OK.
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  My journey really began. I began writing more.
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  I've been began teaching classes in Wellness in a federal women's
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  prison camp, OK to 300 women. And I was good, you know, it was
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  like, OK, I'm moving on. Yes, I miss my family.
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  I've missed seven of my own birthdays, all holidays, my
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  daughter, everybody, you know. And but in many ways, I do think
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  it was more difficult on my family than it was on me because
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  I was growing and I was, whether I liked it or not, I got to find
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  the gift and blessing in this situation.
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  And at that time I didn't call them gifts or blessings.
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  But that is a formula for me that whatever we are going
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  through, whatever crisis, whatever adversity, struggle,
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  challenge the shit in our lives, understand there is a gift in
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  the blessing and a blessing. If we choose to look, if we
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  choose to look and if we choose to say, OK, what is the gift and
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  the blessing? I do it today.
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  What is the gift and the blessing in this?
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  If I I count on the this I was raised Catholic, I was
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  rebaptized in prison a Christian.
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  OK now I honor all paths to God or whatever we all call that
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  divine source and understand I don't God is all there is to me,
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  but I just don't believe that God is in the sky.
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  I you know, I'm not waiting for the proverbial lightning bolt
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  any longer to hit me in my proverbial ass and make things
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  right. That's it.
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  It's not happening anymore. This is the God of my
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  understanding is right here. And that's why it's so important
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  not to shove feelings, to understand that what we feel
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  will determine what we think will determine our external
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  world. And I only believe there are two
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  feelings, fear and love. If you're operating from fear,
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  going to be so good with your thoughts and what you're
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  creating around you. Not at all so.
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  So much I'm I'm this is like I'm letting it soak into my being
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  because it's so it's just So what I need to hear what This is
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  why I'm just so glad that you're you're, you're so authentic.
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  And I feel like, look, even just scratching the surface on your
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  experience, like I could imagine you and you're saying calling
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  and one day you're just stopped hitting the phone.
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  Like you just said, I'm here and I'm going to like make the best
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  of it, right. And what a what a difficult
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  thing to do though in that setting, but what a freeing
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  moment. Yet you find yourself
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  incarcerated. You're you didn't, you know,
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  like you said, this was not the plan.
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  This was not and yet that pivotal switch, then you were
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  able to help yourself and then others.
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  And if somebody's sitting there listening to this and they're in
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  that, that fork in the road where it's like you keep, if you
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  were to keep hitting the phone and keep, you know, that
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  wouldn't change your circumstance.
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  So I. Was there something that went
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  through your head in that moment?
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  Do you remember like that aha moment?
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  It was like. Remember, it was like an oh,
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  well, it was a God thing. I call these things that I don't
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  know what they are or how that happened.
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  It it was a God thing for me. It was a God thing.
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  And you're absolutely right. It was extremely freeing and but
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  it was the beginning. I of course, I had my attorney.
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  So no hand in this motion and that motion, deny, deny.
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  Rhonda was staying then. That was after I hit the phone
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  against the wall. So that all that was all
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  happening on the secular level. However, I knew what I had to
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  do. I had to go inward and do the
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  work inside. It's an inside job.
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  So, and that's why I say this is not for the faint of heart.
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  If you really want to heal, no, this is not for the faint of
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  heart. You must take responsibility and
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  you must go through whatever it is you need to go through, drag
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  yourself through and understand it is for you being the best
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  version of yourself. And it's also to be in service
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  to others. Everything.
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  And there are a couple more escapades we'll get into here.
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  Adventures. The IT was for a purpose.
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  If I thought it wasn't for a purpose, I probably wouldn't.
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  I know I wouldn't be here talking to you this way, but I
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  probably would be very downtrodden in a victim.
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  So, so. And I'm not a victim.
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  I long time ago understood that martyrdom and being a victim
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  were the least attractive things on me.
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  And that's not me. And I got bold and courageous.
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  But you know what this was was very intimidating to me early
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  on. My brand has been this way for
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  three years. Fix your reflection first and
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  live your best life ever. But it wasn't always that way.
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  I was more affected and intimidated and downtrodden by
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  the prison experience than I even realized I was just, I
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  mean, I've been doing 334 years. Now is when I've supposedly come
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  out of the closet about this. And easier and easier.
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  It invokes my healing. It invokes the healing of
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  others. You may not be in a federal
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  prison camp, or worse, you have other prisons.
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  We all do that. We're in it's time.
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  It's time and you have the keys. I used to listen to something
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  when I was jogging, running on a track.
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  I was always blessed. There was gifts and blessings.
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  Even in prison, had a track to run on.
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  I'm an avid runner. I've been a runner for over 50
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  years now and I listen to this Charles Swindell, unshackled,
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  Unshackled. It's time to be unshackled.
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  My friends, listeners, viewers, it's time.
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  It's time. Don't wait for everyone else
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  around you to change thinking that oh that's going to they'll
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  change and everything will be fine. 2 very important things
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  change. We, we have the power to change
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  ourselves. That's it.
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  When we change even the smallest thing about ourselves, watch and
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  see what changes and who changes around us.
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  It's remarkable. It's remarkable.
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  You asked me what would have happened if I kept hitting the
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  phone against the wall. That's the definition of
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  insanity. An example of it.
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  Keep doing the same thing the way you're doing it and expect
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  different results. It's messed up, OK.
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  Yeah, Nope. The the, everything that you're
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  saying it all, it points to this sort of divinity within that,
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  regardless of your circumstance. Like when you say that we create
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  our own prisons. So true, so true.
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  Physically, mentally, you, you, you convince yourself of things
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  or pay attention to the critics or those internal critics.
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  Right. There you may as well be in a
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  prison if you're, you know, and I, I want to commend you also
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  speaking and owning, like you said, it gives people permission
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  to kind of own themselves. That's why on this podcast too,
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  it's like turning that shame or whatever or regret of the past
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  and this for this podcast, it was born out of just an awful
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  experience. So it's like AI was doing like a
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  branding exercise and I'm like reclaim reclaiming yourself, but
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  it doesn't mean forgetting right?
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  It's part of the it's part of the ingredients into where you
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  are now yes and some of the ingredients don't taste good,
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  but they combine to make something right.
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  So when you and and I do want to move on to other experiences as
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  well, when you were teaching those Wellness classes to your
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  peers, to fellow inmates, I'm sure that that you sort of
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  surrendering you, you probably saw that ripple effect of that
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  during a a very difficult time, obviously for all of you.
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  Tell me about what that aha moment then did for the people
• 25:48
  around you and then for the rest of your time there.
• 25:54
  It gave them an aha moment because I am, I am.
• 25:58
  My strength is my vulnerability. I'm very vulnerable the
• 26:03
  especially these days. It's very you hold me up to the
• 26:07
  light. You're going to see what you
• 26:08
  get. If you like it, fine.
• 26:09
  If you don't like it, that's OK too.
• 26:11
  That's the second thing I was going to say.
• 26:14
  I no longer I care, but I don't care what other people think of
• 26:18
  me. I care what I think of me when I
• 26:21
  look in that mirror. I care deeply when I look at me.
• 26:25
  So giving those women an I ha moment are saying, oh, I'll do
• 26:30
  journaling. I will walk on the track when I
• 26:34
  get home. I go, it's not going to happen,
• 26:36
  honey, it's not going to happen. When you get home, you got your
• 26:39
  kids, you got to get a job, you got to pay your rent, You got
• 26:44
  all these things that are functioning out in the outside
• 26:50
  world. So if you want to do this, and
• 26:56
  the interesting part about that, that Wellness class that I was
• 26:59
  teaching, I was asked by people at the Bureau of Prisons, hey
• 27:07
  Farah, because they call you by your last name and you want to
• 27:12
  teach some classes. We need somebody to help this
• 27:15
  thing, a drug program and those who took the classes, not just
• 27:20
  my class, it was a whole entourage of people.
• 27:22
  I was the only inmate teaching the class, but I they got a year
• 27:27
  off their sentence. So after about a year of doing
• 27:30
  this, I went to my counselor and I said, do you think that I
• 27:35
  could get a year off my sentence because I'm teaching?
• 27:39
  And he said no, no way. Fair.
• 27:41
  You don't have a drug crime. I go, oh, OK.
• 27:46
  That was all I said. Yeah, you're like, OK, I'm just
• 27:49
  asking. Then I'd asked.
• 27:51
  All right, so. But it it gave.
• 27:55
  We're all that we, we're we're never alone and we're the same.
• 28:01
  It took a while when when an authority at the prison would
• 28:04
  say, well, where do you live? I said, I live in Pebble Beach.
• 28:08
  No, Farrah, where do you live? They meant where do you live?
• 28:13
  Like the, the dorm in Northern where they were doing.
• 28:17
  They were dormitory style. And you started at the ghetto,
• 28:21
  they called it when you first came in.
• 28:23
  C4 was the ghetto then and then I was in the honors dorm.
• 28:29
  Couldn't be in C2 because that was where the drug people were,
• 28:33
  OK, They were, they had to do their courses and stuff.
• 28:36
  C3 over food service. I and I love to cook over food
• 28:41
  service. That was the honors dorm and
• 28:43
  that's where God put and I said, OK, well, no, I live in C3.
• 28:49
  You know, it's like put the, the whole whoa, I wrapped my head up
• 28:54
  where I live in Pebble Beach. You know, I'm, I don't know what
• 28:57
  to do right now, but. That's where I live, yeah.
• 29:01
  No, not any longer. So yeah, it was getting to the
• 29:08
  end. And when some of my peers, as
• 29:12
  you say, and they were my peers, well, you're living, you're from
• 29:16
  Pebble Beach or you're not like us.
• 29:18
  And then I would relay a story that no, I didn't grow up with,
• 29:26
  grow up with a spoon in my mouth at all.
• 29:29
  And we had our chores to do at home.
• 29:33
  And we were either gardening, cleaning the house, sweeping the
• 29:37
  curb, washing the cars. And they got to know me, the
• 29:41
  real me, a lot of me. And when one of my friends when
• 29:46
  we were children would say, what do you get for an allowance?
• 29:51
  I go, we don't get an allowance. And one day 2 of my brothers and
• 29:56
  I, we went to my dad so and so says they get an allowance.
• 30:00
  How come we don't get an allowance?
• 30:02
  And my father, God rest his soul, said you get to live here.
• 30:08
  I allow you to live. I.
• 30:09
  Allow you to live here and these are your things, these are your
• 30:12
  chores. And we had, we haven't had an
• 30:15
  upbringing like that. And it was a great upbringing.
• 30:18
  We have responsibilities. And yeah, we were expected to
• 30:23
  get no allowance, OK. And to our responsibilities, but
• 30:28
  we are very loved and we're very privileged.
• 30:31
  We wanted for nothing. So it gave those a sense that
• 30:40
  even though I was standing in front of them teaching, I was
• 30:45
  still entertaining and they liked me.
• 30:48
  I liked them and but there was no, you're not going to pass
• 30:53
  this if you don't do certain things.
• 30:58
  And I said the biggest reason you should do this is because
• 31:02
  you're going to get a year off your sentence.
• 31:06
  And then it became crystal clear.
• 31:09
  So there was no that separation that was we are more similar
• 31:14
  than we are different. And that's if people would
• 31:17
  understand that there would be, I think, less conflict within
• 31:23
  themselves, within their families, their communities,
• 31:26
  communities within this world. And I really believe that.
• 31:30
  Yeah, like you said, the emotions like we're either
• 31:34
  operating out of fear, right out of fear based, like looking at
• 31:38
  the world through that fear based lens, right, or love and
• 31:41
  you can feel it almost as you do more healing work.
• 31:46
  I'm I'm about two years into my like, oh shit healing journey.
• 31:50
  Like whoa, this is real like that was around 42.
• 31:54
  I was like midlife, like all sorts of things.
• 31:56
  So when you I was just nodding because I'm like yes, yes, it's
• 32:00
  not for the faint of a heart. However, it the returns you
• 32:04
  start to get once you like free yourself.
• 32:07
  Are you literally are like life, everything is different yes,
• 32:12
  just the it's just the the healing is worth the work.
• 32:16
  And I can imagine the gift that you were giving yourself and
• 32:21
  your peers during that time. I mean, that's that's so
• 32:26
  transformative. Right back, yeah, to being a
• 32:31
  service to others, because that's why we're all here.
• 32:34
  That's why we're here. So take me through.
• 32:39
  So you, you spent seven years there, and I know that that was
• 32:44
  not the only adversity that was waiting for you in your past.
• 32:49
  Oh, no. Right.
• 32:50
  And that was probably, I call it today, the the least adversity I
• 32:58
  do. And I also believe that what we
• 33:00
  go through prepares us for what we is coming.
• 33:04
  And it might not be something not so good.
• 33:08
  It may even our successes prepare us for something else to
• 33:12
  be successful in sure. So for about 11 months, I know I
• 33:20
  had a lump on my breast. I did not there OK, which is
• 33:26
  another story. I wouldn't believe in the
• 33:28
  medical that they had and I just said this is not this can't be.
• 33:35
  And through prayer, through affirmation, I said, I just got
• 33:40
  to get home. And a couple of my friends that
• 33:45
  knew, you know, they said, oh, let's make the eucalyptus tea.
• 33:50
  So I said sure, I'll try it. Sure.
• 33:53
  Why not? Why not?
• 33:54
  I mean, there were certain things you could do and certain
• 33:57
  things, you know, we couldn't do.
• 33:58
  But we could take eucalyptus leaves and make tea and put an
• 34:02
  orange in and it wouldn't be considered a alcoholic beverage.
• 34:06
  OK, so now that wasn't working, but it was interesting because
• 34:10
  some days I said, oh, it's it's leaving.
• 34:13
  The lump is leaving on my right breast.
• 34:15
  It's leaving. It's leaving.
• 34:17
  And then it would be back. Yeah.
• 34:20
  So I held, held everything at Bay.
• 34:23
  I still was doing my running. I was doing weight training with
• 34:28
  the girls on a very antiquity, antiquity primeval weight pile
• 34:37
  that we had. But it was a gift and it was a
• 34:39
  blessing. And yeah, see, I remember
• 34:45
  thinking, no, this can't be happening.
• 34:49
  This isn't happening. OK.
• 34:51
  But it was. And 11 months, I was released
• 34:56
  later than my release date, of course, because there was a
• 35:00
  purpose for me being there a little longer.
• 35:03
  And I went home. I went to my doctor.
• 35:07
  Yeah. Oh, first I went to a halfway
• 35:09
  house. And the federal government in
• 35:12
  the this was the this was primeval to in a in Northern
• 35:17
  California. And I was the only woman in this
• 35:24
  halfway house. And so I said, how's this going
• 35:29
  to work? They took everyone off the high.
• 35:32
  It was a Victorian home. They took everyone off the top
• 35:35
  floor and put me up there with the offices.
• 35:38
  OK. And everybody else was crowded
• 35:43
  together from whoever they took off.
• 35:46
  And I said OK, and I told them I have a lump on my breast and
• 35:49
  they couldn't wait to get rid of me.
• 35:54
  They could not wait to get rid of me.
• 35:56
  I went to my doctor. Long story short, yes, you do.
• 36:00
  You've got to go right now. I have a mammogram.
• 36:03
  I did. You've got to do this right now
• 36:05
  today have a biopsy and in none other than breast cancer
• 36:10
  awareness month 10/10/22 thousand and five.
• 36:17
  I was diagnosed with breast breast cancer nearly stage 3.
• 36:25
  OK, but wow. And you know, having to repeat
• 36:31
  that to family and friends, everybody calling how was it?
• 36:33
  I said well, not the best news but not the worst news and I
• 36:38
  remember saying that so many times and I believe that it's
• 36:42
  not the best news but it's not the worst news.
• 36:45
  Had the best, they called him the best breast guy surgery in
• 36:51
  the United States in Monterey, CA best oncologist and I but he
• 37:00
  had this year I went back into fear.
• 37:03
  I don't like hospitals, I don't like doctors.
• 37:05
  I don't know. I don't like operations.
• 37:08
  I really like my breast and my friends would say we'll get you
• 37:11
  another breast. I said well, I don't want I
• 37:15
  don't want to do this. I don't want to do this.
• 37:17
  It's like a refute, like I don't want to do this.
• 37:21
  It's like the almost the phone moment, right?
• 37:22
  Like I don't want. To do this, that's right.
• 37:24
  And then a friend of mine that worked at Trader Joe's, I don't
• 37:30
  know if I could have said that, but I'd said it anyway.
• 37:33
  Trader Joe's, she worked there and she brought home a card,
• 37:38
  Medical Ching gong practitioner. I called and I had a few
• 37:44
  sessions and nobody liked that I was putting off chemotherapy.
• 37:51
  Right. I went to a few sessions and
• 37:56
  involved chanting movement. I could still run and a lot of
• 38:05
  ironically enough, and I just thought of this now, mirror work
• 38:08
  in front of we had long mirrors in the house and we also had
• 38:14
  dogs. And so I'd be chanting and the
• 38:18
  dogs would be howling. And I said, this is pretty deep.
• 38:22
  This is like a reverberation and there's the mirror coming at you
• 38:27
  about 3 weeks of that and this gentleman said go back to your
• 38:34
  oncologist and get a ultrasound because Western medicine has the
• 38:40
  best diagnostic tools. I went back to my daughter with
• 38:48
  and Nancy said to me, the oncologist, she said, I don't
• 38:55
  know what you're doing, but you're shrinking your tube.
• 39:00
  My daughter's head spun around on her neck and said, you're
• 39:04
  buying this shit too. And I knew then, OK, I got some
• 39:10
  fears here and I got to get over.
• 39:14
  But I knew the power within me was moving and bigger and bigger
• 39:20
  because I knew if I could do that.
• 39:22
  But I got through the prison, but now I I could do that.
• 39:26
  Wow, this I'm going to be all right.
• 39:29
  I kept kept everyone at Bay and I said, OK, I'm starting
• 39:35
  chemotherapy. I did OK.
• 39:37
  So get over my fear that as a matter of fact had an adverse
• 39:41
  reaction, the second tier of it. And I couldn't breathe.
• 39:46
  But I didn't know I was all and technician was watching me said
• 39:51
  you feel all right? I said, yeah, I feel fine.
• 39:52
  Why? And next thing I know, here
• 39:55
  comes a crash cart and here comes oxygen and everything in
• 39:59
  between. And they just said that's you're
• 40:06
  having a reaction. We watch for this, the second
• 40:09
  tier. And I said, oh, and I had an
• 40:13
  oncologist and her dad was an oncologist and too they both
• 40:17
  came in. I said, OK, I feel all right now
• 40:21
  let's continue. And they said, Oh no, this is
• 40:24
  enough for today. I just wanted to do it.
• 40:26
  You know, I this, this was my mission now I just wanted to do
• 40:30
  this. So I went away for a week
• 40:33
  because every week and gift and a blessing and everything.
• 40:36
  I being the avid runner, I was not running as quickly, but I
• 40:41
  was running and had my dog with me and I felt several times it
• 40:50
  was on the not pavement but in the park and you know, bleeding
• 40:56
  and everything else. But I get up, I get up because
• 41:00
  the object of falling down is so one can get up.
• 41:03
  That's it I got up, dog is licking my wounds.
• 41:07
  This happened like 3 times but it wasn't from the chemo, it was
• 41:12
  because my gate wasn't proper and I tripped over a route or a
• 41:17
  rock or something like that. Yeah, yeah.
• 41:20
  But I knew I had a window of time.
• 41:22
  My head was now shaved because I couldn't stand it on the pillow.
• 41:27
  Now the hair on the pillow head shaved and my bandana, my do rag
• 41:33
  as my and I was I knew in my window.
• 41:39
  Chemo was on Thursday morning at 11:00 knew my window I had until
• 41:45
  Friday morning. I got that little jog in and
• 41:50
  then I went to bed for two days. So if I wanted to jog, if I
• 41:54
  wanted to vacuum, whatever I wanted to do, I knew I had my
• 41:57
  window. But I was still the gift and the
• 41:59
  blessings still came to me even though I'm person's never taken
• 42:04
  any St. drugs in my life. And all of a sudden, that was my
• 42:08
  biggest fear going on table. This can't be happening.
• 42:13
  But it was being treated. And then the day came to clean
• 42:16
  out the margins. My daughter was with me again.
• 42:22
  A blessing Surgical center, not the hospital.
• 42:26
  OK. And I'm laying in a Gurney and
• 42:28
  it's a beautiful day in Monterey, CA, and I'm by the
• 42:31
  window and I'm having a talk, having a talk with Scott.
• 42:36
  I'm starting to go into that little fear thing again,
• 42:39
  operations, things like that. And nurse came over and I was
• 42:46
  sad. I said, yeah, I'm having a
• 42:47
  little talk with God. I need.
• 42:49
  I was asking for a sign that everything's going to be all
• 42:52
  right. And I had told my daughter
• 42:57
  before I went in to get the margins, claims Amanda, I'm
• 43:00
  going to dance at your wedding and see my grandchildren and
• 43:06
  vote to pass the nurse who would be my OR nurse?
• 43:14
  Oh, yeah, you're you're going to be all right.
• 43:17
  And then she touched my head and she said, oh, look, your hair's
• 43:20
  coming back. Little Peach fuzz.
• 43:24
  And she pulled back her skullcap and she said, maybe it'll come
• 43:27
  back like mine, Curly. That was my sign.
• 43:33
  Here was a person as the goosebumps God bumps again.
• 43:37
  I just got him too. It she's that was I, I asked and
• 43:42
  you know, I asked and you shall receive.
• 43:45
  And she said to me, yeah, maybe it'll come back early like mine.
• 43:51
  I knew then I'm gonna be all right.
• 43:53
  This woman was put here for me to show me that she is all
• 43:57
  right, so she can help other people help themselves.
• 44:03
  So it was moving along. And then I went through that and
• 44:09
  got into recovery. I had a bail nurse and he was
• 44:12
  just great, joking around with me.
• 44:14
  And my daughter's looking at me. And he goes, Rhonda, Rhonda, are
• 44:17
  you all right? Are you all right?
• 44:18
  I go, I think so. Can I have a glass of wine?
• 44:24
  My daughter said, oh, she's going to be fine.
• 44:27
  She's that's Mom. Yeah, it's.
• 44:29
  Going to be fine, OK, You know, So it was.
• 44:33
  And then 35 bouts of radiation after that, which I drove myself
• 44:37
  to. And at the end of that process,
• 44:42
  it's like the suntan I didn't want on this dress, but it was
• 44:48
  OK. And after 35 or 36 blasts, one
• 44:55
  rings a bell. When you ring the bell, you're
• 44:57
  done. You're done with that.
• 45:00
  And so I was quite proud of myself.
• 45:02
  And it again, that whole prison thing, whatever you want to call
• 45:09
  it, incarceration, all of that and the emotions and the
• 45:13
  feelings and finding my, my sense of self there.
• 45:17
  Because that was the biggest thing I lost.
• 45:19
  I lost my sense of self. OK, here we go.
• 45:22
  Now we're going to go into the hospital and do this.
• 45:27
  OK. This is escapade.
• 45:28
  That's as adventure #2 my midlife crisis and I was in
• 45:33
  service to others. Again, I was in not going into
• 45:36
  the hospital just for my own treatment.
• 45:38
  I was going in to facilitate core support group for women
• 45:45
  undergoing breast cancer. And actually, there was one man,
• 45:48
  because men get breast cancer too.
• 45:51
  Yeah. That was really a pivotal moment
• 45:54
  where I took the psychotherapy. When I was diagnosed, I took
• 45:58
  that psychotherapy hat off and I began to understand how the
• 46:03
  emotions caused dis ease. As Louise Hay would say, dis
• 46:12
  ease. And wouldn't you know that
• 46:16
  incidence of breast cancer in women is due largely to their
• 46:23
  inability to nurture and nourish themselves?
• 46:28
  Here I am. Can you hear me?
• 46:33
  Yeah, I can. I can hear you.
• 46:34
  I just lost you there for one second.
• 46:36
  OK, now. OK.
• 46:37
  No, I can. So, OK, go ahead.
• 46:40
  So you, you had started the support group and you said you
• 46:43
  took your the emotions. That's where I.
• 46:46
  Locked. Yes, that's when the
• 46:48
  psychotherapy hat came off because when I was diagnosed
• 46:52
  with breast cancer, I did my own research because I was in I'm in
• 46:56
  the emotional and cognitive world and how it causes disease
• 47:00
  or not I'll being or well-being. And what happened was I
• 47:05
  discovered that incidence of breast cancer in women is due to
• 47:11
  the fact that we are unable or won't nourish ourselves, nurture
• 47:16
  ourselves. We're very good at doing it for
• 47:19
  others, OK, whether it's clients, whether it's children,
• 47:23
  whether it's family members, partners.
• 47:26
  And I said, that's the switch, OK, a new hat got put on.
• 47:31
  And then as I've got more into this, well, look, I'm looking.
• 47:34
  I'm doing pretty good here with all the shit that's happened in
• 47:38
  my life. That's why I was, you know,
• 47:40
  living in Pebble Beach. Then I went to the ghetto and I
• 47:43
  went to surgery or hospital. You know, I'm feeling really
• 47:47
  empowered. And I said, yeah, there's
• 47:52
  something to this. And that's when I continued on
• 47:54
  that frame. And again, one thing prepares us
• 47:58
  for the next thing. Not one, but very short lived
• 48:04
  marriages, both to women. That was it.
• 48:14
  They didn't want me. They want me back now.
• 48:16
  But no, that's not happening. I can't, no, I can't repeat that
• 48:19
  pattern again. No, but very the most difficult
• 48:24
  of all those three things, the betrayal, the like abandonment,
• 48:29
  the sense of who am I now? I needed more work, so that
• 48:35
  needed to be happen. That needed to happen.
• 48:39
  It show it's like almost like the things that are happening
• 48:44
  and the emotions that come like you were talking about before
• 48:46
  they they're they're pointing you to what they're showing you
• 48:50
  what needs to be worked on right.
• 48:53
  They're there to what is it someone said to like their,
• 48:56
  their, their signals. Like usually we run from them,
• 49:00
  right? Like I don't want to feel that
• 49:01
  because it's like it's never going to end, but it's actually
• 49:04
  never going to end if you don't feel that's right.
• 49:07
  That's right. You want to it's you know, I'm
• 49:11
  in the gym when somebody says how was it?
• 49:13
  I go, it's good, it's over. And I actually like, I like
• 49:17
  working out totally. So again, it I can't impress
• 49:26
  upon our listeners and our viewers that what's coming, no
• 49:31
  matter how daunting, how painful, it's preparing you for
• 49:35
  something else when you get to be the best version of yourself.
• 49:39
  Today I, I came here on a work project.
• 49:42
  I was going back to Connecticut after the last divorce and a
• 49:50
  friend asked me to help out her mother-in-law, Alzheimer's
• 49:59
  dementia, but high function, high functioning.
• 50:05
  And I they said can you give us a year?
• 50:08
  I got a year. I've been here for years.
• 50:11
  October 4th, my client, my sidekick as I call her, went to
• 50:22
  memory care last week so and she went on my birthday last
• 50:29
  Thursday and she is not liking it.
• 50:35
  I remember those days, some things I didn't like.
• 50:40
  One day at a time, one day at a time.
• 50:44
  And it's extremely symbolic that she began a new adventure and I
• 50:48
  began a new adventure because it's time to go.
• 50:52
  It's time to go now. And all of these adventures have
• 50:59
  prompted me to write. I was writing a book from PTA to
• 51:04
  prison, my journey in consciousness to my own
• 51:07
  transformation. I was running here two years ago
• 51:13
  in Colorado Springs, and in between the sidewalk and the
• 51:19
  curve there was a miracle growing up.
• 51:24
  I took a picture of it and it's now will be the cover of my
• 51:28
  book, Growing Where I Am Planted, my journey and
• 51:32
  consciousness to my transformation.
• 51:35
  So I'm going to be planted somewhere else.
• 51:39
  And all this now is it will help people to understand that Grow
• 51:46
  where you are planted. It's no accidents.
• 51:49
  I do not believe in accidents, coincidence or happenstance.
• 51:53
  Not at all. We're where we are where we are
• 51:56
  supposed to be, just like we're here right now when we are
• 52:00
  supposed to be there. And this moment will determine
• 52:03
  the moment when we get off camera for each of us
• 52:07
  individually, together with our families, with our communities.
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  It will determine tomorrow, next week, next month, next year.
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  You must be in the moment. I know that sounds so corny.
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  So many people use it. Be in the in moment because
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  that's all we have. That's all we have.
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  Beautiful and that's where the when you're in the moment,
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  that's where the healing happens right when you're actually Oh
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  yes, I mean this is I feel like and I always tell this to my
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  guests. I could talk to you for hours
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  and go deeply into many of these chapters.
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  But I think what I'm taking from you is, like you said, being in
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  the moment and then tapping into like this inner strength that we
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  have. Like you find yourself in places
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  you never thought you would be surrendering.
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  And then like, what are you going to do with that, right?
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  The alchem alchemizing whatever situation you're in, right?
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  Absolutely. Because we have that power
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  within us. We absolutely do.
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  It's not just me. We are all our own guru.
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  We are we. We are.
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  And it's quite a life altering realization since I've been
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  doing this podcast that the strength of the human spirit and
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  like what people are able to get through and like what they
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  actually change it into even better.
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  Than even better than before, right?
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  Yeah. And you know, my life looks very
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  different than it did in 20 years ago.
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  It looks very different and it's OK because I got my sense of
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  self back. I know my inner strength and I
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  better because I teach this. I live it and breathe.
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  And many people say well how do you live an empowered life?
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  How do you fix your reflection? First I'll give you 2 tips.
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  Fix your How do you How do you fix your reflection?
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  First to be gentle with yourself.
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  Be gentle, be kind to yourself, nourish yourself.
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  Selfishness is the least is the most selfless thing one can do,
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  especially as a woman. It's OK.
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  I'm not talking about the selfish.
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  Selfish where you step on people or you hurt others.
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  No, sure, selfish understand that you deserve, you are
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  enough, you are important. What you say and what you do
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  matters. It's not just everyone around
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  us. What we say and what we do
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  matters. That's understand that.
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  That's how you fix your reflection.
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  First look in the mirror. What I say and what I do
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  matters. I'm enough.
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  Just the way I am with a nick on my right breast.
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  I'm still enough. Nobody ever complained.
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  OK, so hey, I told you I can go go there.
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  But. You know what?
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  It's OK. I can't do, it's okay.
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  And as I as I get more and more authentic, I don't care.
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  So it's it's a beautiful thing. To not care.
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  And how do you live an empowered life?
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  I would tell you I'm an alchemist.
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  Remember, I have a formula for living in an empowered life.
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  Gratitude plus forgiveness equals living the life you
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  desire, living the life you perhaps dream about, living the
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  life you want to live rather than anything less.
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  Gratitude from the smallest to the largest things.
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  That's the formula Gratitude plus forgiveness.
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  Gratitude we know about Yeah, OK, write it down or you say it
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  right. Do that keep doing a gratitude
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  in the morning and and the forgiveness on the other hand
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  has a very bad rap forgiveness of yourself and of others.
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  That's what must happen, that. That's the only way the the
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  putting down the the resentment and the guilt and the shame
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  Can't. You can't.
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  You got to alchemize that, right?
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  It's almost like what I've learned too is when I'm not
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  forgiving someone, why should I be forgiven then, right?
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  It's like everybody is. Everybody is needs to be
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  forgiven. Forgiven beginning.
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  Forgive beginning with yourself. Do we have a moment just to give
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  a tool that people can? Yeah.
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  OK, here's a tool for the forgiveness.
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  OK, that OK, Nobody likes that word, but it's necessary.
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  Forgiveness. Begin with yourself.
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  Take a piece of paper and write a letter to yourself.
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  Write a letter to yourself. It could begin like this.
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  I'll use myself as an example. Dear Rhonda, I've been, I have
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  been meaning to write to you for some time.
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  First of all, how are you? New period.
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  Remember when you went to prison, you had breast cancer.
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  You had failed divorces and failed relationships.
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  Divorces. Remember all that?
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  I know you did not mean to hurt me.
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  I forgive you. You're writing to yourself.
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  I know you did not mean to hurt me.
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  I forgive you. Aha.
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  Breath. There's the R.
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  That's a confirming breath. Next, take another piece of
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  paper. OK, Pick a person that you feel
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  has harmed you. I want you to write them a
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  letter. And usually everyone looks at me
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  and says, oh, no, no, you don't have to mail it.
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  OK, It's a little easier. Dear person that hurt me.
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  I've been meaning to write to you for some time.
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  First of all, how are you? Remember when you left me
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  holding the bag on that business deal and I went to prison?
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  Remember when you betrayed me? When you abandoned me?
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  Remember when you caused my financial ruin?
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  These are three different people.
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  I know you did not mean to hurt me, and I forgive you.
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  When we don't forgive, it only hurts us.
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  It doesn't mean you have to get back in the sack or the saddle
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  or any with anybody. But what it does mean is that
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  you have released them. You have released the toxicity
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  and the negativity that is just spewing within you which does
• 59:25
  cause disease. Research fears that on you.
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  Do you want to live an empowered life?
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  The life you desire? Gratitude plus forgiveness
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  equals living an empowered life. Amazing message and thank you
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  for boiling it down to that because I'm taking I know when
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  when we go on our own paths, hopefully I can talk to you
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  again too. I'm going to remember the
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  fixture reflection first, the gratitude and the plus
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  forgiveness. And when you said like all of
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  that is spewing around like it's so true.
• 1:00:09
  And I think being able to. Doing that right is going to
• 1:00:17
  take you to a different level of consciousness, which you said
• 1:00:19
  like in your book, your book that's going to come out.
• 1:00:21
  It's all about like peeling away so that you're more conscious,
• 1:00:26
  right and less like trapped. Rhonda, I want to thank you.
• 1:00:34
  I know we're coming up to about an hour here.
• 1:00:36
  I thank you so much for being a guest on the podcast, for being
• 1:00:41
  so vulnerable, authentic. I don't take it lightly when
• 1:00:46
  somebody shares their story and you know, you are now a part of
• 1:00:52
  my journey and my sort of in service to others.
• 1:00:55
  Like I would like to create this space and and you're a part of
• 1:01:00
  that where people can bring their stories and we all
• 1:01:04
  alchemize this together without shame and bringing it forward.
• 1:01:08
  I love that, like not pushing it like this is part of me, but I
• 1:01:13
  am alchemizing like all the time.
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  Absolutely. This.
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  This has been a pleasure. Yeah, this has been an absolute
• 1:01:21
  pleasure. And I, I would like to leave our
• 1:01:29
  listeners and viewers with a couple of things, if I may.
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  Please do. First of all, whatever struggle
• 1:01:37
  or challenge you are going through right now, realize that
• 1:01:40
  you are not alone. Reach out.
• 1:01:44
  Whether you reach out to a friend, a trusted friend, a
• 1:01:49
  companion, a partner, whether you reach out to me or someone
• 1:01:53
  else, reach out. I do Ioffer strictly for women.
• 1:02:01
  Fix your reflection first. Group coach, take your first
• 1:02:05
  config bell reflection first and live your best sight ever.
• 1:02:11
  So Ioffer that. The other thing is whatever any
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  of us is going through, remember the light that you see shining
• 1:02:20
  at you at the end of that tunnel, whatever, wherever you
• 1:02:22
  have to be going through. I like that door.
• 1:02:28
  I'm on a call. That's all right.
• 1:02:32
  Whatever, wherever, that light is not a train coming at you.
• 1:02:37
  That light is the way. It's the truth.
• 1:02:40
  It's the guidance, it's the blueprint so that you can take
• 1:02:47
  the best of you and that not so good stuff that happens and let
• 1:02:52
  it serve you rather than anything else.
• 1:02:56
  And I invite all my audiences, whether it's on my show or I'm a
• 1:02:59
  guest to I invite you Now, you don't have to do it, but I'm
• 1:03:03
  inviting you to treat light as if it were ice cream and enjoy
• 1:03:09
  it before it melts. I like that.
• 1:03:17
  It's a good, it's a good especially it's summer in the US
• 1:03:21
  and got to enjoy all of this, this journey that we're all on,
• 1:03:26
  right as we're alchemizing everything from adversity into
• 1:03:30
  adventure, right? Well, Rhonda, thank you so, so
• 1:03:35
  much. I'm going to put all of your
• 1:03:37
  information in the show notes, link to your website, your
• 1:03:40
  Instagram, all the things because I know that there's
• 1:03:44
  going to be somebody out there that's going to be affected by
• 1:03:46
  this. And I'm just grateful to be in
• 1:03:51
  your energy And I, I can't wait to keep staying connected.
• 1:03:54
  And thanks for just being who you are and and sharing your
• 1:03:58
  story with me and everybody else.
• 1:04:00
  It's been my pleasure, Yeah. And thank you for being so
• 1:04:05
  authentic yourself. Because there was.
• 1:04:08
  Yeah, there's a there's an alchemy.
• 1:04:10
  And that's what connection breeds transformation.
• 1:04:18
  So thank you. Thank you very much.
• 1:04:20
  Thank you. And have a have.
• 1:04:22
  A thank you dear, you too. Bye for now all.
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  Right. Take care.
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  Bye bye.