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UnchainedTV: Help Save India's Elephants! · UNCHAINEDTV'S Truth Files with Jane Velez-Mitchell

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We have breaking news for you.
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Unfortunately, a temple elephant has died in India.
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A temple elephant just died yesterday.
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This is the story of brutality and torture.
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These innocent animals, torn from their families, their
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spirits broken, exploited for profit, under the guise
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of religion in India and elsewhere around the
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world.
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There's a movie, Gods in Shackles, a film
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by Sangeeta Iyer.
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She is on a one-woman crusade with
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a team of people in her organisation to
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save these Indian elephants.
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Let's start with the breaking news.
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Tell us about this elephant who died yesterday,
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Sangeeta, and why he or she is so
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emblematic of your battle to save India's elephants?
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Thank you, Jane.
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It's really wonderful to be with you here.
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Sadly, we are sharing the plight of these
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supremely intelligent animals over and over and over
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again.
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The elephant in particular who died yesterday was
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quite young.
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He's a bull elephant.
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There are only 4% bull elephants in
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India.
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They are being captured from the forest, torn
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from their families, tortured to submission, and exploited
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for profit in the name of culture and
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religion.
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This elephant died yesterday.
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I'm still awaiting details.
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Here's the thing.
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Last Tuesday, there was yet another elephant who
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had died.
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He was only 24 years of age.
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Almost on a weekly basis, we are seeing
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the decimation of these young bulls.
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The image that you're seeing of the previous
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elephant, he actually is Adiyato Ayyappan.
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He died in 2016.
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He died because of a wrong diet that
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was fed to him.
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They fed him dates that had seeds.
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These seeds got clogged up in his digestive
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system.
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He died of digestive disorder at a very
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tender age of about 30 to 35 years
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of age.
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This is the plight of Asian elephants who
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are being exploited for profit in the name
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of culture and religion.
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This in particular is happening in a notorious
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state called Kerala, which is in the southern
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part of India.
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They are displayed and paraded just so people
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can be happy.
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Look at the crowd that surrounds them and
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how people are going wild.
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Look at the brutality that they have to
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endure to make humans happy.
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It's just utterly gut-wrenching and heartbreaking.
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That's why my film, Gods in Shackles, was
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nominated in the United Nations General Assembly and
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won 13 International Film Festival Awards, the first
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time ever exposing the plight of these temple
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elephants.
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We'd like to say that Gods in Shackles
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It's super important to see so you can
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understand the problem because before you get depressed,
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all is not lost.
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We have solutions, and I say we.
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I mean, Sangeeta has come up with incredible
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solutions to this horrific, horrific abuse of elephants
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in India for these ritualistic ceremonies and cultural
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ceremonies, and the solution is genius.
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The solution is robot elephants.
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Now, before you say, oh my gosh, that
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sounds crazy, I'm going to show you a
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video of the robot, and I was blown
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away.
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You cannot even tell that this is a
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robot elephant.
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Check this out.
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This is a short video narrated by Sangeeta
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Iyer.
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This is her new project.
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You can be a part of it.
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Obviously, it's going to require donations.
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Watch this, and we'll talk about it on
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the other side.
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Elephants from the train tracks, but let's just
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look at this majestic elephant.
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Doesn't he look real?
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Well, actually, he is a robotic elephant, and
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Voices for Asian Elephants has donated this beautiful,
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majestic elephant to a temple in the Gudalu
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district of Tamil Nadu, the first ever in
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the state, and this particular district actually borders
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Kerala, and the purpose of providing this robotic
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elephant is to replace live elephants and end
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elephant torture, but just look at his eye.
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It moves as though this is actually a
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real elephant.
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Look at the eyelashes.
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Look at the texture of his skin.
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This whole robotic elephant was designed by Prasant,
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who owns this organisation called HEARTS.
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This is just the very first robotic elephant
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that Voices for Asian Elephants has sponsored with
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the support of Ganesh Hariharan, and the mission
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is to promote humane treatment of elephants while
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at the same time preserve India's rich culture
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and heritage.
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The good news is that the media coverage
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has been phenomenal, and there are many temples
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who are now requesting us to sponsor such
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robotic elephants, and that gives us tremendous hope
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for the festival elephants.
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Absolutely incredible.
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You are a genius.
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Honestly, I thought, there's something wrong with this
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video.
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These are the real elephants, and then I
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was like, they're so good that you can't
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even tell that they are real, that they're
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not real.
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I want to just show, I did a
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little here, side by side.
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You've got the robotic elephants on one side.
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You've got the poor real elephants that are
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being tortured on the other side.
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Why on earth, dear God, would we do
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this torture if you've got this incredible alternative?
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I want to ask you more about that,
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but boy, the callers are lining up.
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Tiffany, your question or thought for Sangeeta Iyer,
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the maker of Gods and Shackles, streaming on
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Unchained TV.
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Thank you, Jane, for taking my call.
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Wow, they're beautiful, the mechanical.
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How can we help you get the word
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out?
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Is there like a Facebook post we can
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share, or how can we help you spread
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the word here in the United States?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah, we have a Facebook page for Voices
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for Asian Elephants.
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We have a website, vfaes.org.
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We are on Insta, we are on Twitter,
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and it's actually bustling.
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Our Facebook page is quite engaged, so is
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the Insta, and we are excited to partner
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with Unchained TV now that we can expose
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the atrocities.
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But at the same time, we are also
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providing solutions, which makes it imperative to share,
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so it's not all doom and gloom, because
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at the end of the day, without awareness
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and education, we cannot spread the word.
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So thank you for asking, Tiffany.
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Yeah, everybody's just blown away, as I was
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so blown away.
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Because when you said robot elephant, I was
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like, let's see how that's going to work.
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But I got to tell you, these robotic
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elephants are just, it's really hard to tell
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the difference.
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I mean, look at this detail.
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Look at this.
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It looks like, honestly, I was like, this
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is the elephant.
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Where's the robotic elephant?
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And then I realised, wait a second.
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Okay, so here are the real elephants being
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tortured.
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Look at all those people.
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Look at the anxiety that these animals who
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roam hundreds of miles in the wild must
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be experiencing.
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This is the life they lead chained up.
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I mean, that's a nice photo.
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I didn't even put some of the worst
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ones up.
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And yet, when you could have this instead,
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but these have got to be expensive.
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So let's, I want to take the callers,
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but we got to talk.
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You need a big donor.
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You need a big donor to come in
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and help you.
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So hopefully somebody who's got some moolah and
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who's ready to save elephants in India is
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watching and can save you.
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But every little bit counts.
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So go to vfaes.org, which stands for
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Voices for Asian Elephants Society, and donate.
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All right, we've got another caller, Michelle in
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Los Angeles.
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Your question or thought?
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Hi, I think these elephants are absolutely beautiful.
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And I was thinking, one of my best
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friends got married and had an Indian wedding,
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and they were supposed to have an elephant
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here in California.
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And they couldn't get the warrants for it.
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This is many years ago, and they had
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horses instead.
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But what are you doing about the communities
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here that are culturally in favour of doing
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this?
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Is that an issue as well?
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And maybe there's ways to like hook them
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up with the community, the religious communities here
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via India?
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I love that question.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Go ahead.
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Go ahead and answer it.
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I have a thought too.
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Yeah, no, I just, I just wanted to
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say that the awareness of what the cruelty
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is, I don't think they know.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And you know, you hit the nail right
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on because we have a large Indian community
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in the United States.
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And I have relatives living in the US
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as well.
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And this is exactly what we can do
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is, you know, creating robotic elephants and using
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them in weddings, you know, is a whole
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lot humane.
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And it's even, you know, it even protects
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people because you know, when you bring elephants,
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or even horses or any animal, aside from
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the brutality and suffering that they go through,
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if they lose it, it becomes a public
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safety threat, right?
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And so in that regard, it's a win
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-win situation for both people and animals.
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So yes, and awareness is critically important.
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So any Indian person, you know, just turn
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them towards our organisation, you know, and have
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them watch this documentary, Gods and Shackles.
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And it's important for the Indian community living
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in the United States, to be educated about
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the plight of these animals.
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It's not cultural, because there's not a single
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Hindu scripture, or biblical scripture, or, you know,
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Islamic scripture that says, you have to exploit
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elephants to make me happy.
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After all, elephants are God's own creations.
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And God doesn't want any of God's creations
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to be suffering the way these animals are.
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Besides, they are supremely intelligent, highly social animals,
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just like, you know, how if our children
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are separated from their families, what will they
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go through?
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What will we go through?
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You know, so this is what the herd
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suffer.
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And this knowledge has to be disseminated.
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And so yeah, anything you can do to
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support us, again, check out VFAES.org and
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let's talk.
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We've got yet another caller, Lindsay in Tarzana,
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your question or thought for Sangeeta Iyer, the
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filmmaker behind the award-winning Gods and Shackles,
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as well as the founder of Voices for
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Asian Elephants.
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Well, I just wanted to chime in with
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some of the other, of course, I think
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it's outstanding, fabulous.
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It makes my heart happy that this is
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a possibility.
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And I go to the practical side of
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it and think, well, perhaps if the individuals
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and the organisations that are keeping the elephants
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to use them for these activities could see
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that in the long run, the cost would
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be much less, possibly help them get funding,
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support in that way.
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Is there anything being done in that area?
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I just wondered.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, thank you.
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And that's, again, a great question because this
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is actually our first step and our first
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temple, but guess what?
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Yet another temple has approached us and this
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temple is quite popular.
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I can't tell you exactly where it is
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for security reasons, and they want to the
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live elephants that they used with robotic elephants.
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So it is going to take a long
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time because it takes time for attitudes and
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mindsets to shift because these memes have been
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planted in their minds for centuries.
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So it's going to take a long time
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for them to recognise.
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It's almost like unlearning and then relearning.
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And so one of the other things that
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we are doing is we are working directly
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with the forest departments and we are offering
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them all of the videos that I'm producing
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so they can educate their own staff and
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they can use the videos to educate the
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public and create awareness.
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It is going to take time, but we
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are going to be sponsoring our next robotic
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elephant in January, February of next year.
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So that is an exciting prospect and I'm
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really thrilled to share that.
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We hope that we're going to have more
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temples come along.
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We've got yet another caller.
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Kimberly Culver City, your question or thought for
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Sangeeta Iyer of Gods and Shackles now streaming
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on on Shane TV.
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Hi Sangeeta, hi Jane.
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Sangeeta, I met you some years back when
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you had an event in Los Angeles.
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Yes.
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Yes, it was a wonderful event and I
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have a few questions.
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First of all, thank you for what you
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do.
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It's just amazing and I loved your movie.
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I saw it when it first came out.
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It was amazing.
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It's sad, but very educational.
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Thank you.
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My questions are, pardon?
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I said thank you.
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Oh yeah, sure.
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My questions are when might you have a
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gala in LA again and how are the
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robot elephants going?
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Are people open to them?
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How many are there?
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Are more being made?
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And then is anybody educating these horrible elephant
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handlers that just beat them and treat them
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so badly?
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Is anyone going to them and saying please
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stop doing that?
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You don't need to do that or something.
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Anyway, thank you very much.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, thank you.
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And as I mentioned previously, yes, people are
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embracing this.
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I mean, that temple where we inaugurated this
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first robotic elephant was packed.
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And if you checked out our website and
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if you went under the media tab, you'll
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find innumerable news coverage.
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I mean, we just, even up until last
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month, we actually launched the robotic elephant on
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the 7th of February, or sorry, the 3rd
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of February this year.
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And the news is still bustling everywhere.
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And reporters are contacting me from India.
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Even like just last week, I had a
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call.
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So yes, they are accepting and they're embracing.
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And even the media madness is really going
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to help us.
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Secondly, to answer your question with regards to
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if others want to do this and how
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we are educating them, well, the best way
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to educate is by showing.
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And so we are demonstrating how this is
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working and also explaining to them that it's
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not only good for the people, but it's
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also good for the elephants and the culture
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still thrives.
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So we kind of incorporate everything that it's
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a win-win situation.
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Again, as I said earlier, it's going to
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take time for people to understand and embrace
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this.
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Then with regards to launching a programme in
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LA, well, if you want to launch an
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event, we are more than happy to come
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by and screen this film again.
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And we can definitely work with Jane and
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anybody who wants to collaborate with us.
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We cannot do this alone.
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So if you're interested, get in touch with
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us and we can create like a nice
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little community and volunteers to host events such
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as this and help educate and embrace compassion
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and condemn cruelty.
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So that's probably the way to go.
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What do you think, Jane?
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How much?
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I'm totally in favour of it.
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Absolutely.
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I many, many years ago, more than 30
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years ago, went with my mother to India
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and like an idiot, not knowing and not
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realising, oh, I love elephants.
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Let's take an elephant ride.
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And I've been doing a living amends ever
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since.
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So one of the things we also have
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to let people know is do not ride
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elephants.
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Do not use any animals in entertainment.
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And I try to think back and like,
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oh, I was so unconscious.
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It did not occur to me that these
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animals might be abused.
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The irony is it's precisely because people love
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elephants that they do all these things.
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And that's what we have to do.
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We have to unhook love of elephants from
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all these animals, love them from afar, leave
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them alone.
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They're not toys.
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And so my question to you is how
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much do each one of these elephants cost?
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And why can't we get the Indian government
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to get involved with purchasing these elephants?
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And then somebody else asks, which I think
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is a really good question, what happens to
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the retired elephants?
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Bruce Anderson says, also, are there protected sanctuaries
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that will receive the retired temple elephants?
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Yeah.
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So let me answer that question first, because
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I think it was Kim who asked, so
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what are you doing to train the mahouts
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so they don't become, you know, they give
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up brutality and embrace compassion.
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So that's another thing that we did.
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There is this government run elephant rehab centre.
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And with a team of people, including the
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Elephant Care Unchained, we went there and we
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did a rehab programme and trained them positive
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reinforcement and enrichment programmes, how you can use
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elephants without abusing and without exploiting them, then
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without using bullhook and all these brutal weapons.
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And in fact, we did this for like
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about a week.
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By the end of the week, one mahout,
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that is one handler, he was so comfortable
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with his bull elephant, bull animal that he
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completely just unchained this elephant and started walking
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this elephant without, you know, the chains and
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roaming within the sanctuary.
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I mean, that was just really, really breathtaking
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to witness.
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We've got all those images and videos and
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everything, and we should probably start sharing those
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images.
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With regards to the government, so here's the
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tragic situation.
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Just when we thought that, you know, the
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number of elephants are dwindling, captive elephants that
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is, are dwindling in Kerala, the Indian government
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has enacted a law that says the elephants
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that are in captivity, you know, this is
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all a very grey area at this point,
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the elephants who are in captivity can be
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used for cultural rituals and festivals.
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And that means elephants can be transferred from
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various states.
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So, and there's pushback from a lot of
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animal welfare organisations, but the law has been
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enacted.
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And I think the Supreme Court is looking
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into it.
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And the situation is that, you know, when
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there are, let me say, you know, billionaires
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doing things like that, it's hard to fight
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back because, you know, legal cases take up
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funding and energy, and you never know, and
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you may never win.
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And there's lots of corruption.
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This is not a secret.
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So there are a lot of hassles.
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It's not just as simple as, oh, these
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are the laws.
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And this is what you're doing.
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And so we are going to arrest you
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or punish you or penalise you.
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It just doesn't work that way.
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The nexus of culture, commerce, and politics is
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just so entangled that it's just really hard
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to, I mean, I've been working on the
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ground for 10 years, even to this day,
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I have a hard time understanding certain things.
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And just when I think, oh, that's what
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is happening, then I just peel another layer.
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I'm like, oh my God, you know?
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So it's not easy.
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You are looking at an image from the
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film, Gods and Shackles, an award-winning film
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produced and directed by our guest today, Sangeeta
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Iyer, who's also the founder of Voices for
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Asian Elephant Society.
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If you want to help, go to the
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website on your screen, vfaes.org, vfaes.org,
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and become a donor because these animals cannot
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speak for themselves and there are solutions.
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She has created robot elephants that the temples
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are embracing them and they could then get
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rid of torturing the real elephants and using
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them in these horrible ceremonies.
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Well, the ceremonies aren't horrible, but what happens
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to the elephants kept in chains?
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We can't even show you the worst of
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it and there's no need for it.
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The irony is that India worships elephants and
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therefore wants to use them, but the problem
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is that in order to use a wild
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animal who's used to running hundreds of miles,
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you have to have them chained and you
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have to break them and it's a horror
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show.
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So if you want to get involved, I
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want to know how much does each robotic
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elephant cost and can we start a GoFundMe
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for per elephant?
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I would certainly donate to that.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, it costs between 12,000 to 15
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,000 dollars.
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So it's not a lot of money to
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be honest with you.
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At the end of the day, it's like
23:42
if all of us come together, we can
23:44
easily raise that kind of money and I'm
23:46
so proud to say that our second elephant
23:49
has been a robotic elephant that has been
23:52
entirely donated by Dolores Whitley who lives in
23:56
New York.
23:56
She's been supporting me since 2013 and she's
24:00
been a loyal supporter so she's completely donated
24:03
every penny for the second robotic elephant.
24:07
The first one was donated but entirely again
24:09
by Ganesh Hariharan who's of Indian origin but
24:13
he lives in the United States and so
24:14
this is how we start, you know, educating
24:17
the Indian community by doing, you know, by
24:20
offering solutions as Jane said and so there
24:23
are issues but for every issue we come
24:26
up with solutions.
24:27
Technology is phenomenal, right?
24:29
Robots, artificial intelligence, I mean this particular robot
24:33
operates on artificial intelligence and similarly, yeah, similarly
24:38
we have the EleSense device to save elephants
24:42
from getting killed on the train tracks, the
24:44
one that Jane, you know, your title showed.
24:47
I just wanted to address that because the
24:48
title came up.
24:50
I want to talk about that.
24:51
So let's talk a little bit, okay, so
24:54
$12,000 per robotic elephant.
24:58
We should definitely do an Indiegogo for a
25:03
robotic elephant and I would, I'm certainly going
25:07
to donate to that.
25:08
Thank you.
25:09
The solution, what I love is that you
25:11
don't just show the problem, you also show
25:14
the solution.
25:15
So for those who are just joining Sangeeta
25:19
and aside from coming up with these incredible
25:22
solutions, we're going to talk about the solution
25:24
to elephants being hit by trains in one
25:27
second.
25:28
She is also the producer of Gods and
25:30
Shackles which is currently streaming on Unchained TV
25:33
and all you have to do is go
25:35
to download Unchained TV, put in Gods and
25:37
Shackles in the search bar, boom, it comes
25:39
right up.
25:40
Here's the trailer.
26:11
So you have to see that film.
26:14
It is streaming on Unchained TV, which is
26:16
very easy to watch and it's totally 100
26:20
% free.
26:21
All you do is download Unchained TV on
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your phone or on any television.
26:27
It's on all Samsung TVs and on any
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26:32
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26:34
And you can also watch it online, go
26:36
to unchainedtv.com and just poke around.
26:40
Up to 2000 videos are there, including Gods
26:43
and Shackles.
26:44
So let's talk a little bit about your
26:46
other project, which is trains.
26:49
So saving elephants from deadly train track accidents.
26:54
This is a horror show, but you have
26:56
a solution.
26:57
There's a high-tech solution.
26:58
Tell us about it.
27:00
Yes.
27:00
And so in the last 10 years, approximately
27:04
896 elephants have gotten hit and killed on
27:09
India's deadly train tracks.
27:11
And West Bengal is one of the most
27:13
notorious states for this.
27:15
And so we partnered with an indigenous group
27:19
of people.
27:20
And so that is yet another thing.
27:22
We are empowering the community as well.
27:24
And so they developed, because they understand the
27:27
terrain, they understand the elephant movements, and they
27:32
understand the weather patterns, et cetera.
27:35
So they developed this artificial intelligence-based technology,
27:40
which is actually, it's called EleSense.
27:43
And EleSense is fed with four particular items.
27:48
Number one is the pattern, that is how
27:51
the elephant, the structure of the elephant, the
27:53
body of the elephant, it detects the pattern,
27:56
it detects the temperature.
27:58
So there's this thermal sensor installed inside this
28:02
EleSense device.
28:05
And then there are two other things.
28:10
I can't remember.
28:12
Anyway, there are four sensors installed inside the
28:15
EleSense.
28:16
And so the minute this EleSense device detects
28:20
or feels those four, the pattern, the thermal,
28:24
and the movement patterns, and the height, absolutely,
28:27
all of these things, it sends out a
28:30
signal to our team, to the forest department,
28:33
to the railway department.
28:35
And as soon as the railway department receives
28:37
it in their control centre, they use a
28:40
walkie talkie to call the pilot, the train
28:42
pilot, and say, slow down, there's a herd
28:45
of elephants there, slow down.
28:47
So he slows down, farther behind, and the
28:51
elephants cross, and then there's no death.
28:54
So in the last year alone, EleSense device
28:58
has averted 627 elephant collisions with the train.
29:06
And this year, so far, 62 elephant collisions
29:12
have been averted.
29:13
And it's only 62 this year, because it's
29:17
not a cropping season yet.
29:19
May is a cropping season.
29:20
And then there's the paddy cropping season, which
29:22
is like sometime in July, August.
29:25
So those are the times when elephants cross
29:28
over the train tracks, come into the villages
29:31
for raiding the crop, because they love the
29:34
taste of the crops.
29:35
It's like an easy target.
29:37
It's almost like, hey, here's the McDonald's.
29:39
I'm just going to feed off of McDonald's.
29:41
Why should I bother going home and cooking
29:43
and taking the trouble to gather all this
29:46
food?
29:46
Let's not use that analogy.
29:48
I don't think anybody should ever go to
29:50
McDonald's.
29:51
No, nobody should.
29:52
No, you're right.
29:53
I'm sorry.
29:54
I didn't mean to do that.
29:55
But I'm just saying that it's like junk
29:56
food.
29:57
It's junk food.
29:58
That's what I was trying to say.
30:00
So yeah, you're absolutely right.
30:03
And as vegans, we shouldn't even be talking
30:06
about it.
30:07
But in any case, so yeah, that's how
30:10
EleSense functions.
30:12
And so that's how we have averted.
30:14
We are seeing concrete results.
30:17
I mean, there's nothing that makes us happier
30:20
than seeing these tangible outcomes.
30:23
And again, we could not have done this
30:25
without the support of donors.
30:27
And we are completely reliant on donors to
30:31
get these kind of projects done, right?
30:36
Because collectively, we are all heartbroken to see
30:40
these elephants suffering, but we cannot do this
30:42
without the funding, right?
30:44
And so that's one of the things that
30:46
I'm really, really proud of is to see
30:49
these results and continue to move forward.
30:52
And the thing with this is that with
30:55
saving these wild elephants is that there are
30:57
approximately 40,000 Asian elephants on the entire
31:00
planet.
31:01
60% of them, that is about between
31:04
25,000 and 26,000 Asian elephants are
31:08
in India.
31:10
It is their last bastion.
31:12
So we need to do everything we can
31:14
to save them in India.
31:15
So we've covered so much ground.
31:17
We've covered your development of robot temple elephants
31:23
so that these real elephants are not put
31:26
in these horrible, torturous situations where they're abused,
31:30
they're shackled, they're beaten.
31:32
And just to recap and review, it's $12
31:35
,000 per robot elephant, which is really not
31:40
a lot.
31:41
And then the second thing we have that
31:43
you've come up with, solutionary, which is what
31:46
I love, not just talking about the problems,
31:48
but talking about the solutions, you've got this
31:51
system.
31:53
How much does it cost per system to
31:57
stop these dead?
31:59
In other words, if somebody was saying, okay,
32:02
I want to buy one of these systems
32:03
for voices for Asian Elephant Society to put
32:07
out there, how much does one of this
32:08
train accident prevention systems cost?
32:13
So it doesn't work on one particular system
32:16
per se, right?
32:17
So we take a stretch of the train
32:19
track, like eight kilometres stretch, and we installed
32:23
40 devices.
32:24
And for those 40 devices, it cost us
32:26
60,000.
32:27
So you can do the math, right?
32:29
For 40 devices, it costs $60,000.
32:34
And that includes, of course, developing, designing, installing,
32:39
monitoring.
32:40
We also have some amazing camera trap footage
32:43
that shows how the elephants are crossing safely.
32:47
And so we keep track of them every
32:50
two months.
32:51
We get a report on how many elephants
32:54
have crossed and which area they have crossed
32:57
in.
32:58
And we keep track of their passage, their
33:01
movements, just to make sure that they are
33:03
safe.
33:04
So you can divide $60,000 by 40
33:07
devices.
33:08
I don't know how much that works out
33:10
to.
33:12
$1,500 each.
33:14
Yeah.
33:15
So that's another thing because, you know, having
33:18
emceed so many events where people are raising
33:21
money, they want to see, it's like nuggets,
33:24
you know, little bits of change, as opposed
33:26
to just give me money generally, and I'll
33:29
do what I want with it.
33:30
You are showing really specific things that are
33:33
doable that are let's get this done.
33:36
And I think that it's, I was extremely
33:40
impressed by it.
33:41
And I'm not suggesting this for everyone, but
33:44
I do play the lottery because if I
33:46
win, Sangeetha's getting the money, baby.
33:49
Yeah, I love that.
33:51
Hey, and it's E-L-E-S-E
33:55
-N-S-E.
33:56
It's not Alison.
33:57
It's ElySense.
33:58
ElySense.
33:59
I love it.
34:00
All right.
34:00
We got another caller, Paige from Los Angeles
34:03
on hold.
34:04
Your question or thought for Sangeetha Iyer.
34:08
Hello, Sangeetha.
34:10
It's great to connect with you here.
34:12
Hey, Paige.
34:13
Oh my goodness.
34:14
You have been tirelessly working for the freedom
34:19
of elephants.
34:20
And here's what I want to ask you.
34:21
What do you do for self-care?
34:24
That's number one.
34:25
But number two is for those of us
34:27
that are activists out here, what is your
34:29
secret sauce for the sustainability of your activism?
34:34
Thank you.
34:35
Wow.
34:36
I love that question, Paige, because in September,
34:39
I'm going to be launching a programme to
34:42
help activists sustain themselves.
34:45
So the secret for me is connecting with
34:47
Mother Nature every single day.
34:49
I drink three litres of water.
34:51
I am a vegan and I eat only
34:54
wholesome food.
34:56
You are marvellous, darling.
35:01
And I spend about an hour or an
35:05
hour and a half in the natural world
35:07
to kind of de-stress or decompress.
35:12
Because as you said, Paige, you're absolutely correct.
35:16
Day in and day out, all you do
35:19
is you see the atrocities against animals.
35:22
And of course, I'm active on social media,
35:24
on Twitter, on Instagram.
35:26
I call out people.
35:28
I say things like, you know, you know,
35:30
I mean, not rude things, but I'm quite
35:33
blunt on social media as to like why
35:35
we are doing this.
35:36
I call out scientists.
35:38
I call out the United Nations and tell
35:40
them you guys have to do more.
35:42
Otherwise, we're going to need like new international
35:44
bodies so each of us can speak out
35:47
and do something.
35:48
And so, Paige, stay tuned for that programme
35:52
that I'm going to be launching in September
35:55
to empower activists and in particular, you know,
35:59
visionary women to ensure that when they see
36:02
these atrocities and brutalities, that they are not
36:06
alone.
36:07
I'm creating a community and just send me
36:10
a friend request and I'll include you in
36:13
that community.
36:14
And this is how we're going to support
36:16
each other.
36:17
And I have come up with like a
36:19
12 pillar programme again, which I'll be unpacking
36:22
and we're going to be unrolling that in
36:26
September.
36:26
So stay tuned for that, Paige.
36:29
So you are a dynamo and now you're
36:32
doing something on self-care or whatever.
36:34
Wow.
36:36
Here's the thing.
36:37
What I really love about your programme is
36:39
you outline the problem and it's terrible.
36:41
And we're running out of time because these
36:44
poor animals are being decimated across India.
36:47
I mean, look how many are using this
36:49
one ceremony.
36:50
It's disgusting.
36:52
But you're coming up with solutions.
36:54
So your solution of the robot elephants is
36:58
absolutely extraordinary.
37:00
And then you also have a solution to
37:02
elephants being hit by trains.
37:04
Again, the robot elephants cost $12,000 each,
37:08
each one.
37:10
How many do you need?
37:11
Just give me a number real quick.
37:13
So, I mean, we are waiting for more
37:15
temples to get in touch with us, but
37:17
ideally every year we want to start giving
37:20
like two or three at a minimum.
37:22
And then because it takes time for the
37:26
temples to acknowledge and the religious institutions, because
37:29
they use the live elephants in churches and
37:32
mosques as well.
37:34
And so we don't want to push them
37:36
because then we'll receive a pushback.
37:39
And so we are saying, okay, you guys
37:40
observe, you guys tell us.
37:43
And of course we are doing our outreach
37:45
programme, talking to schools, going to universities.
37:47
I just received an invitation from a very
37:50
renowned college in Kerala to come and share
37:53
this film and speak there, et cetera.
37:56
So we keep doing these kinds of outreach
37:59
programmes.
38:00
The one thing I wanted to also mention
38:01
is that the third most sustainable solution that
38:05
we're implementing is we are purchasing swaths of
38:08
land and we are completely rewilding the land.
38:13
So what we did last year in June
38:15
of 2023 is we purchased a four acre
38:19
corridor.
38:20
And some people may think, ah, it's just
38:21
four acres, but here's the thing.
38:24
On the one side, you have the vast
38:26
forest region.
38:28
On the other side, you have another vast
38:30
forest region, but in between you have these
38:32
plantations because the Kerala government at once upon
38:36
a time, they decided, oh, we're going to
38:38
sell the forest land.
38:40
And now they're realising that, uh-oh, what
38:42
did we do?
38:43
And now they're buying back that land.
38:46
And so they approached us and we said,
38:48
okay, well, let us help you.
38:49
And so again, with the support of donors,
38:52
we were able to purchase a four acre
38:54
plot of land and this four acre plot
38:57
has completely opened up.
38:59
I went and I checked it just this
39:01
February, on the 7th of February, that's where
39:03
I was.
39:05
And they have cleared up the plantations, they
39:08
have removed all of the electrical fencing.
39:09
So what this does is it allows 340
39:14
plus elephants from this forest patch to walk
39:18
freely towards the next forest patch.
39:21
And this is so critically important because if
39:24
the elephants stay in one area, they'll be
39:27
inbreeding, they'll start inbreeding.
39:29
And that will create genetic disorders and threaten
39:33
the long-term species survival.
39:37
And so this movement, so, I mean, we
39:39
can't undermine every single acre of land, right?
39:43
So we purchased four acres, but this year
39:45
our goal is to purchase 10 or 12
39:48
acres of land in Odisha, where we have
39:51
planted 20,000 saplings and we have created
39:55
eight water holes, massive water holes, and elephants
39:59
are visiting the water holes.
40:01
We just got some images recently with elephants
40:04
visiting their footprints, their dung and everything.
40:07
Is it this?
40:09
Yes, it is.
40:11
Wow.
40:11
Okay.
40:12
So I got this off your website and
40:14
I was like, look how tiny the people
40:16
are compared on the right, right?
40:18
Yeah.
40:18
And I was like, what exactly is this?
40:21
So this is a watering hole for elephants.
40:24
And what you're doing is constructing these around,
40:28
in the land that you've purchased or where?
40:31
So this is on the outskirts of the
40:33
forest, like in between the forest and the
40:36
villages.
40:36
Cause what they do is they leave the
40:39
forest and they come into the villages and
40:41
because they don't have water, they don't get
40:44
food.
40:44
So we are planting saplings right next to
40:46
the water holes in the forest land because
40:49
these forest areas have been encroached upon by
40:52
humans.
40:53
So we are offering job opportunities to the
40:56
same tribal people who live in those areas
41:00
and say, okay, you plant the saplings, you
41:03
help us create water holes.
41:04
We will pay you money if you can
41:06
help us protect the elephants.
41:08
And so that's one thing.
41:10
I'm another thing that I'm so excited about
41:12
expanding.
41:13
It cost us $60,000 for the four
41:17
acre plot of land in Kerala.
41:19
Cause Kerala in Kerala land is like a
41:22
precious commodity in Odisha to in India, overall
41:25
land is a precious commodity, but for about
41:28
10 acres of land, it's going to cost
41:30
us approximately $110,000.
41:34
And we are going to be launching a
41:36
campaign.
41:36
We are reaching out to foundations, et cetera,
41:39
so they can support us.
41:41
Wow.
41:42
I am so blown away at everything you're
41:46
creating.
41:47
And there's one more, you're creating a system
41:51
to prevent elephants from falling into wells, because
41:56
that is yet another problem in India.
41:58
They have hundreds of wells that are in
42:00
the ground and they're like booby traps for
42:03
these poor elephants.
42:06
Tell us about that.
42:07
So in Odisha in particular, approximately 70 elephants
42:13
have died falling into wells.
42:15
And so we partnered again with local people
42:18
and we had them instal T-shaped barriers
42:21
around key wells.
42:24
We installed about 100 or we covered about
42:27
100 wells and there has been absolutely no
42:30
elephant debts.
42:31
And guess what?
42:32
After we did that, I actually lobbied and
42:36
I spoke with the state government.
42:38
And this year I am so happy to
42:41
report that because of our advocacy, in the
42:44
month of March, I got a message saying
42:46
that all of the 1300 wells in Odisha
42:50
have been covered.
42:52
Yeah.
42:54
I'm so excited about that.
42:55
So we don't have to do that in
42:57
Odisha, but we may have to do it
42:58
in other states.
43:00
But again, it takes a lot of diplomacy,
43:04
talking to them, meeting them, letting them know
43:07
we are genuine, that we are interested to
43:10
support you.
43:11
We are not condemning and criticising you, but
43:13
of course you need to know these problems,
43:16
but we are here to partner with you.
43:17
We are here to help you.
43:19
And so that's how we are making a
43:23
difference in the lives of elephants.
43:24
And just recently, about three weeks ago, another
43:28
elephant had fallen into a well in Odisha,
43:30
a well that they had never known about.
43:32
So again, I immediately sent that message to
43:35
the chief wildlife warden.
43:36
He said, we are going to cover it
43:37
this month.
43:38
So they have covered it in the month
43:40
of April.
43:41
So every time I get a message, I
43:43
continue to bug them.
43:45
Kim Delgado said it.
43:47
Wow.
43:47
You are one busy lady, Sangeeta.
43:50
The elephants are so lucky to have you
43:52
on their side.
43:53
They really are.
43:55
And I just have to say, because I
43:56
interview so many different organisations, their leaders about
44:01
what they're doing.
44:02
What I really, really like is that this
44:03
is so solutionary.
44:05
Yes, you have shown us the horrific problems,
44:07
but you've come up with some ingenious solutions.
44:11
And I'm just going to recap and review.
44:13
We're talking about robotic elephants, instead of using
44:17
real elephants in these horrific ceremonies.
44:20
We're talking about a high-tech train system
44:23
where the elephants are detected by the approaching
44:26
train, and they send a signal to the
44:29
train driver, slow down.
44:31
This has saved hundreds of lives already.
44:34
And then you have the watering holes, which
44:38
these elephants need water.
44:41
Then you have the very practical creating these
44:45
barriers around the well so that the elephants
44:48
don't fall into the wells.
44:49
And then finally, you have the purchase of
44:51
land to connect wildlife spaces.
44:54
There are corridors that allow these elephants to
44:58
mingle and cross over so they don't inbreed.
45:02
Okay.
45:03
So you're talking approximately half a dozen brilliant
45:06
solutions.
45:08
Wow.
45:09
I just hope, I pray that people are
45:12
listening and that everybody goes to vfaes.org
45:21
and donates because somebody already said they donated
45:25
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45:30
just individual donations and monthly donations.
45:34
We have monthly donors here at Unchained TV,
45:37
and they're even $5 a month, $10 a
45:40
month.
45:40
It helps.
45:41
It adds up.
45:42
So get on there.
45:43
Do you have a monthly donation option?
45:45
Absolutely.
45:46
Yes.
45:46
Yes, we do.
45:47
I'm going to become a monthly donor right
45:49
now, as soon as this is over.
45:50
Thank you.
45:51
Thank you so much.
45:53
If everybody watching this became a monthly donor
45:56
for $15 a month, that's three cups of
45:59
coffee.
45:59
Depending on where you are, it could be
46:00
two cups or one cup of coffee.
46:03
We could already buy one elephant.
46:05
So please do that.
46:07
It's vfaes.org.
46:11
Donate.
46:12
I'm going to do it as soon as
46:13
this is over because I'm excited.
46:15
I want solutions.
46:16
I get depressed when I hear about these
46:19
problems, when I see these images, but then
46:21
when I go, wait, we can fix this.
46:24
Exactly.
46:25
So empowering.
46:27
And I just love the example you're offering
46:29
all of them.
46:30
And Tom says, put her on the team.
46:33
Yeah, you're right.
46:35
And yes.
46:37
And Rowan Chandler says, you're a wonderful human
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being.
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I hope you publish another book.
46:42
Yes.
46:43
On top of that, she's written books.
46:45
My head is exploding.
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Okay.
46:49
And this is another good one we just
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heard from Navia who donated $100.
46:57
She said, I can spare a cup of
46:58
coffee for such a good cause.
47:00
Yes.
47:01
Thank you.
47:02
That touches me.
47:03
Yeah.
47:03
A couple of cups of coffee.
47:04
That's what I tell people that donate to
47:06
Unshamed TV.
47:07
But the same thing applies to you.
47:09
For a couple of cups of coffee, you
47:12
can be saving elephants.
47:14
And it's just so crucial because we are
47:19
destroying wildlife all over the world.
47:23
We've reduced wildlife biomass, mammal biomass to 4
47:29
% of total mammal biomass while increasing livestock
47:33
to 62%, which means that most living beings
47:37
on this planet are being created forcibly.
47:40
They're not making love on these factory farms,
47:42
forcibly impregnated and created only to be killed.
47:46
There's something really wrong with that.
47:48
We can turn it around by fostering wildlife,
47:51
rewilding.
47:52
And Sangeeta, you're also fighting climate change as
47:56
you rewild.
47:57
So that's another really important thing that you're
47:59
doing.
48:00
You're operating on all fronts.
48:02
All you need is some cold hard cash
48:04
to make this happen.
48:05
And we're going to get it for you.
48:08
I want to really be involved in this.
48:10
Let me just tell you a little bit
48:12
about- Sorry, that website address is wrong.
48:17
It is VFAES, V-A-E-S, F
48:21
as in Frank.
48:22
Kim was going to get a thousand lashings
48:25
with a wet noodle, a wet ramen noodle.
48:28
Here it is.
48:29
She's one of our great volunteers though.
48:33
VFAES.org, V-A-E-S.org.
48:38
All right.
48:39
So you're talking about your efforts.
48:43
I want to take a moment because she
48:46
has an entire channel on Unchained TV.
48:48
And some people even say to me this
48:50
day, what exactly is Unchained TV?
48:54
So here's a little video that has the
48:57
answer.
48:57
So it's a vegan Netflix.
48:59
Okay.
48:59
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
49:01
I love Unchained TV.
49:03
Unchained.
49:03
Unchained TV.
49:04
Your life will change.
49:05
It's just that easy.
49:07
Unchained TV has all sorts of content for
49:09
everybody.
49:10
Unchained TV changed my life.
49:12
Unchained TV is crushing it.
49:15
I love Unchained TV.
49:17
Unchained TV is my go-to.
49:19
Unchained TV.
49:21
Who knew?
49:22
Unchained, baby.
49:23
Yes.
49:30
And you can download Unchained TV.
49:32
It's so easy.
49:33
It's free.
49:34
We're the world's only vegan streaming network.
49:36
You can download it on your phone.
49:37
Just go to your app store and put
49:38
in Unchained TV, one word.
49:40
Or you can download it on your television.
49:42
It's on all Samsung televisions.
49:45
There's my Samsung TV right behind me.
49:48
And there are just some of the more
49:51
than 1,500, actually, we're up to almost
49:53
2,000 videos.
49:55
And amongst those videos is Sangeeta's The Elephant
50:02
Matrix.
50:03
So there's just so much fun stuff, serious
50:07
documentaries, fun stuff.
50:10
We even have a reality show called Pig
50:12
Little Lies, the world's first reality show starring
50:16
a family of pigs.
50:17
How sweet.
50:18
Whatever you're interested in, watch.
50:22
It's free.
50:24
People sometimes say, what's your angle?
50:25
My angle is I worked for 30 plus
50:29
years in mainstream television, and they don't cover.
50:33
They don't cover what's happening to animals.
50:35
So I said, I'm going to use my
50:37
skills.
50:38
I worked at a lot of networks.
50:39
I'm going to create my own network.
50:40
It's not mine.
50:41
It's a nonprofit.
50:42
I don't take a salary.
50:44
We're almost all volunteer run.
50:46
We are simply trying to get the word
50:48
out because you know what?
50:50
No amount of money is going to be
50:53
as good as saving our planet.
50:54
If we can't even walk across the street
50:57
without fading because of climate change, if there's
50:59
no wildlife left except in zoos, what's the
51:04
use of money?
51:06
Your thoughts on that, Sangeeta?
51:08
Yeah, no, you're absolutely correct.
51:10
And you were talking about climate change.
51:12
Elephants are climate mitigators.
51:14
They wander across vast areas for hours on
51:17
end, disperse seeds in their dung.
51:20
Each elephant poops about 300 pounds of dung
51:25
per day.
51:26
And in that dung, it has all this
51:28
precious, rich seeds that are wholesome because elephants
51:32
don't digest all of the food that they
51:34
consume.
51:35
And so they wander across 16 to 18
51:37
hours a day for miles on end and
51:41
they disperse seeds in their dung.
51:43
These seeds become trees, obviously, and trees give
51:46
us oxygen to breathe and take up the
51:48
carbon.
51:49
But here's the rub.
51:50
Elephants also trample the softwood trees, opening up
51:54
the pathways.
51:55
And then they also pull down these canopies,
51:59
allowing the rain and sunshine to penetrate the
52:01
soil.
52:02
And the hardwood trees, they devour these rich
52:08
ingredients and the hardwood trees, they sequester a
52:12
lot more carbon than the softwood trees.
52:14
That's how they help sequester carbon and mitigate
52:18
climate change.
52:19
And you know, if you want to talk
52:21
money, the International Monetary Authority Monetary Fund has
52:27
pegged one single forest elephant at approximately $75
52:35
million per elephant in its lifetime.
52:38
We are priceless.
52:39
Let me just jump in.
52:40
We got a really quick caller here.
52:42
We've got like only two minutes left in
52:43
our show.
52:44
Annie in Sherman Oaks, your question or thought
52:46
for Sangeeta.
52:52
Annie?
52:52
All right.
52:53
Well, maybe she went away.
52:54
I'm here.
52:55
I'm here.
52:56
Hello.
52:56
Can you hear me?
52:57
Yes.
52:57
What's your question or thought?
52:58
We only have a couple of minutes left.
53:01
Awesome.
53:01
Awesome.
53:02
Thank you so much for having me.
53:04
It's awesome what you're doing with the elephant.
53:06
Sangeeta, it's incredible.
53:08
From last time I saw you to this
53:09
time, I love it.
53:10
And I always share everything about you and
53:13
your dogs and shackles and all.
53:16
Is there anything that we can do to
53:19
approach maybe the government or some organisations that
53:27
can actually help, aside from sharing here, like
53:31
in India?
53:33
OK, good question.
53:35
We have one minute.
53:36
What's your answer?
53:37
Indian organisations.
53:39
Yeah, there are a lot of Indian organisations
53:41
working on situations like this.
53:45
Unfortunately, when it comes to culture, there's a
53:47
backlash always.
53:49
And these elephant mafias, they use culture and
53:52
they shield behind the culture and they find
53:54
shelter under culture and religion.
53:58
And they say, this is part of our
53:59
culture.
54:00
This is part of our culture.
54:01
And they plan these memes in the minds
54:04
of people.
54:05
And then there's this whole entire mob that
54:09
comes and attacks you when you talk.
54:11
So it's a difficult situation.
54:13
This is why we are taking a backdoor
54:15
approach rather than going and attacking them from
54:18
the front or approaching or lobbying or petitioning.
54:21
It just doesn't work.
54:22
India has 1.41 billion people.
54:27
It's like the most densely populated country on
54:30
the planet, 18% of the world's population.
54:33
So we have to be careful in how
54:35
we deal with the situation there.
54:37
We are out of time, but I want
54:39
to say, Sajita, you give me hope.
54:43
As Nelson Mandela said, it always seems impossible
54:46
until it's done.
54:48
You've documented the problem with an award-winning
54:50
documentary that is streaming on Shane TV.
54:53
I urge everybody to check it out.
54:56
And then you've also laid out the solution,
55:00
practical, a half a dozen, practical, affordable, efficient,
55:05
easy to implement solutions.
55:08
All you need is that funding.
55:10
So that's why I say to everybody, if
55:12
you care, become a monthly donor.
55:14
I'm going to do it right now.
55:15
As soon as we're off, $25 a month,
55:18
we get 100 people doing $25 a month.
55:21
You won't even notice it's gone.
55:22
And we will save an elephant and then
55:25
we'll have a big party.
55:26
Yeah, absolutely.
55:27
I look forward to it.
55:28
And thank you, my God, you're my kindred
55:30
spirit and the work you do is phenomenal.
55:34
So kudos to you.
55:35
Thank you for the opportunity.
55:36
And let's continue this conversation.
55:38
Maybe we could launch an elephant or something,
55:40
you know?
55:42
I love it.
55:43
Let's do an elephant.
55:44
All right.
55:45
We're out of time.
55:46
All right.
55:46
Have a good one.