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🚨 MIKE NORVELL FIRED! Who Will FSU Hire NEXT?! | Let's Review the Candidates! · FSU Football: Doak Talk

• 4:01
  Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on?
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: It's C.J.
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: Wilson here with Dope Talk. Got a jam-packed episode for
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: you guys. A lot of excitement within the FSU community
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: the last few days, as you guys know. Mike Norvell
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: was fired from Florida State. Spent some really exciting time.
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: You're fired.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Zach, one more time for me, Harlan.
• 4:23
  Speaker 2: You're fired.
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: Yep. Shout out to Mike, man. So FSU ended up
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: moving on from Mike Norvell after the Clemson game. Make
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  Speaker 1: sure you guys hit that like button and subscribe to
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  Speaker 1: the channel. So I'm just going to talk about a
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: little bit. I'm not going to go too deep into
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  Speaker 1: it as far as the Clemson game and I guess
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: how we kind of got to the situation with Martin Orville.
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  Speaker 1: Then after that, we're going to kind of jump into
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: play a little game, right? Have fun. This is the
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: fun time of year, so to speak, whenever your team
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: is in a situation.
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  Speaker 4: College football, coaching hot boys, right? Never a dull moment.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to pretty much be driving the fan base
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  Speaker 1: until you actually announce a coach. So we're going to
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  Speaker 1: play a little game, just throw some names out that
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  Speaker 1: have kind of been attached to the job, good or bad.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying all these guys are actual candidates, just
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  Speaker 1: names we've been seeing. We want to discuss those names
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  Speaker 1: and kind of give some pros and cons from my
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  Speaker 1: opinion standpoint. And then, of course, towards the end, can't
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  Speaker 1: have a show without the callers. I know you guys
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  Speaker 1: probably want to talk about a lot of things. So
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  Speaker 1: if time does prevail, we're going to open up the
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  Speaker 1: phone lines at the end and, of course, get the
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  Speaker 1: conversation going and let you guys get your takes off
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  Speaker 1: and give me hell. Who the hell you want from
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  Speaker 1: my hot board? What coach you want to hire him?
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  Speaker 1: your take on the whole Mike Norvell FSU situation, whatever
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  Speaker 1: it may be. You know, I'd love to give you
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  Speaker 1: guys time to get your shit off your chest. But
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  Speaker 1: into the spill, we're currently streaming on Twitter as well.
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  Speaker 1: Midpoint of this live, we want to just focus on
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  Speaker 1: my timeline, and venture over to the YouTube side of things.
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  Speaker 1: We are going to be transitioning to the YouTube side
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  Speaker 1: of things pretty soon within the show. All right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: let's get it going. So FSU fires Mike Norvell after
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  Speaker 1: a loss to Clemson. Like I said, not going to
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  Speaker 1: spend too much time on it, but long story short,
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  Speaker 1: the team looked completely unprepared coming off a bye week.
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  Speaker 4: The offense could not get anything going.
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  Speaker 1: And so Clemson imploded down the stretch with a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of man coverage in that situation was double swing was
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  Speaker 1: pissed about. He wanted to go zone and kind of
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  Speaker 1: keep things in front of them. But he ended up
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  Speaker 1: going man in some situations and we're able to get
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  Speaker 1: some deep balls. Off of that and score some touchdowns
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  Speaker 1: and kind of get back into the game. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the run game struggle, which we figured it would be
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  Speaker 1: with losing Usman Kromha. But it was really bad, only
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  Speaker 1: 65 rushing yards. Trey Wiseman had 13 touches, well, 43
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  Speaker 1: yards on 13 touches, which isn't good at all.
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  Speaker 4: Defense, what can I say?
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  Speaker 1: The usual. Making terrible teams look better than they are.
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  Speaker 1: Clemson hasn't had a passing touchdown in forever. And, of course,
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  Speaker 1: Reynolds threw for one on Saturday and ran for one
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  Speaker 1: as well, two total touchdowns. I know in the previous
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  Speaker 1: show we was talking about the Clemsons offense versus the
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  Speaker 1: FSU defense. Unstoppable force versus the immovable object. Conversation all week, right? Well,
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  Speaker 1: it really wasn't an unstoppable force versus a movable object
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  Speaker 1: type of situation. It was a stoppable force versus a
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  Speaker 1: very movable object. And the stoppable force won. They had
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  Speaker 1: 351 total yards. And, of course, the third and 12,
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  Speaker 1: the biggest play of the game, a 79-yard touchdown run
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  Speaker 1: by the quarterback. Might be the slowest 80-yard run I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen. And even with that being so slow, the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback was barely touched. Tony White was fired as well.
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  Speaker 1: rightfully so, along with Evan Cooper, the safeties coach. But
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  Speaker 1: there's no way you should be down 19 points in
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  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter to this Clemson team, this Clemson team.
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  Speaker 1: This might be the worst Clemson team that Dabble Sweeney
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  Speaker 1: has had. I don't think Clemson scored 30 points on
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  Speaker 1: Georgia Southern, if I'm not mistaken. They ended up scoring
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  Speaker 1: 30 points on Florida State, which is Ridiculous, but again,
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  Speaker 1: on par with what we've been seeing. Not to the surprise,
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  Speaker 1: and I kind of said it during the week. Clemson
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  Speaker 1: has been struggling, but what better game to get on
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  Speaker 1: track as a struggling offense than to play Florida State
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  Speaker 1: in a Tony White coach defense.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Clemson scored 22 points on Georgia Southern.
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  Speaker 2: 22.
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  Speaker 4: 22 points on Georgia Southern. 10 points against LSU. 28
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  Speaker 4: against LSU.
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina, 24 against California, 13 against Miami, 37 points
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  Speaker 1: against Charleston Southern. So we gave up this. They gave
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  Speaker 1: up the second most points, but they scored the second
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  Speaker 1: most points this season, 36 versus 37 against Florida State.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you everything you need to know. But again,
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  Speaker 1: I really think this is Mike Norvell's worst team, in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, that he's had thus far at Clemson. So
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  Speaker 1: you factor that into what we have, and that's the
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  Speaker 1: reason why he was fired. And also just.
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  Speaker 4: A deeper look at Mike Norvell, right?
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  Speaker 1: Mike Norvell is 10 and 22 since the 2023 season.
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  Speaker 1: Starting in 2024, the past three seasons, 10 and 22.
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  Speaker 1: Let's take a deeper look at that. He's 5 and 21.
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  Speaker 1: You guys heard that correctly. He's 5 and 21 against
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  Speaker 1: Power 4 teams since the 2024 season. The last three years,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Norvell, this is crazy to fucking say, excuse my language,
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  Speaker 1: but 5 and 21 at Florida State. Since 2024, FSU
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  Speaker 1: has the worst record in the ACC, the worst conference
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  Speaker 1: record in the ACC, the absolute worst conference record in
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  Speaker 1: the ACC. You got Syracuse, Duke, all these quote-unquote bottom-feeding
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  Speaker 1: teams in the ACC. Nope, Florida State has the worst
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  Speaker 1: conference record since the 2024 season. I know I said
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  Speaker 1: we're five. Mike is 10-22 since the 24th season, 5-21
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  Speaker 1: against P4 teams since that year. Why not 22 losses?
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  Speaker 1: He also lost to G5 Memphis in 2024, the school
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  Speaker 1: he came from. So, add insult to injury as to
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  Speaker 1: why it's not 22 power four losses. We lost to
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: a G5 team as well, too. Recruiting class, let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about recruiting. Any momentum on that, FSU is currently ranked
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  Speaker 1: 50th by the 247 composite. So, yeah, it was way
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  Speaker 1: past time for FSU to move on from the Mike
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  Speaker 1: Norvell situation. And that's exactly where we're at right now, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 1: I want to Move on and kind of get into,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, the fun part of the show. Talk
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  Speaker 1: about the pros and cons of some coaches. Pros and
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  Speaker 1: cons of some coaches. Now, we are going to, with
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  Speaker 1: that being said, I'm talking about the coaches and all
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  Speaker 1: that type of deal and the pros and cons of it.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to venture over to the YouTube part of things. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: my apologies. We're going to venture over to the YouTube
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  Speaker 4: side of things.
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  Speaker 1: So if you guys want to see and hear the
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  Speaker 1: rest of this live, Go ahead and hit the YouTube portion.
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  Speaker 1: Get on Twitter because we're going to end the live
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter. Just focus on YouTube only. Once you come over,
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  Speaker 1: make sure you guys hit that like button and subscribe
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  Speaker 1: to the channel if you haven't already.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's get on to the coaching carousel. Right
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  Speaker 4: from the soul, man.
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  Speaker 3: You got a super chat.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we got a super chat. Appreciate you, Leo. Organa3000,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm pronouncing your name wrong, please forgive me. Shout
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  Speaker 1: out to CJ, the best bad man in the business.
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  Speaker 1: We got to get it going, man. Shout out to
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  Speaker 1: the bag. It has to be paid one way or another,
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: and we got the job done. Shout out to the
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  Speaker 1: fan base, man, because the President McCullough interview, well, I
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: guess you could say press conference, he mentioned how loud
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: the fan base was on social media and that type
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  Speaker 1: of deal. Don't ever think that you guys don't have power.
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  Speaker 1: You are pretty much the lightblood of the program from
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  Speaker 1: a funding standpoint, without you guys, it wouldn't really be
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  Speaker 1: an FSU football with all the points of the program.
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  Speaker 1: Whether you're donating your booster donation, small or little big,
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  Speaker 1: whether you're coming to Tallahassee and you're spending money on tickets, economy,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it may be, you're a part of all of that.
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  Speaker 1: So don't ever think that you guys don't matter. Alright,
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  Speaker 1: so let's go ahead and venture it over to... I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to go ahead and cut the stream on YouTube
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  Speaker 1: and just focus on.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, cut the.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate you, man. That's my peoples right there, man. That's
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  Speaker 1: my peoples. Me in 36 with the best bad man
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  Speaker 1: in the building. Of course, I got my, I guess
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: you could say my financial advisor in my home in
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Neenah down there in Gainesville. But yeah, that's where we're
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  Speaker 1: at with it. So let's talk about these coaches a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. The first coach we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: is of course Jimbo Fisher. Jimbo has speculated, well, not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily speculated, but he has created a lot of buzz.
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  Speaker 1: Within the FSU fan base, good or bad as far
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  Speaker 1: as a lot of fans on the back. Other fans
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  Speaker 1: kind of want to hold on to how he left
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  Speaker 1: and that type of deal. And I'm not going to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, discredit how each side feels on the situation.
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  Speaker 1: You have valid reasons to feel how you feel. But
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  Speaker 1: for me, I don't, I'm not a, this isn't an
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  Speaker 1: emotional decision for me. It's strictly business. I think he'd
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  Speaker 1: be a solid fit. But let's jump right into it.
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  Speaker 1: So you got former FSU coach, national champion, multiple ACC chip.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go on some pros and cons. Some
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  Speaker 1: of the pros recruit still at one of the best,
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  Speaker 1: one of the best in the country, still one of
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  Speaker 1: the best recruiters in the country building a roster. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he could do that. Even at Florida state A & M,
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  Speaker 1: no matter the position, you know, he's been an elite
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  Speaker 1: recruiter going back to LSU days as well. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we called them the clothes of Brown, Brown jacket, Jimbo,
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  Speaker 1: all those types of deals. Even at A & M,
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  Speaker 1: I think those guys had the number one recruiting class ever.
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  Speaker 1: Even though I don't think that class panned out, but
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  Speaker 1: from a recruiting standpoint, He knows what he's doing. And,
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  Speaker 1: of course, Elko has benefited from that with Jimbo's players.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he benefited and went to the playoffs last
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  Speaker 1: year after a pretty successful season for Texas A & M.
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  Speaker 1: He's struggling right now. But, again, he was able to
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  Speaker 1: benefit off the roster that Jimbo had built out there
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  Speaker 1: at Texas A & M.
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  Speaker 4: Excuse me.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be relatively cheap, too. He has to buy off
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  Speaker 1: from Texas A & M. Who said something about, oh, bitch,
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: you cooking? It's time to cook, baby. So, again, he
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: The money, he's relatively cheap from a money standpoint. He's
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: getting like seven plus million from Texas A & M
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  Speaker 1: on an annual basis.
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: You could throw that money elsewhere, right?
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  Speaker 1: So you don't have to pay a huge buyout to
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  Speaker 1: Jimbo because you're already in the red, the negative, so
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: to speak, with paying off Mike Norvell. You can offset
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: that a little bit with Jimbo Fisher. He'll come in
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  Speaker 1: on a relatively cheap contract and you can make it
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: instead of heavy. Win football games, right? Win football games.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty much all Jimbo has to do. Come in
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  Speaker 1: and win football games. You get X amount of money.
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  Speaker 1: I think he'll be okay with that because he knows
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  Speaker 1: he can win in the ACC. He see, if you
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: guys look at the 2027 schedule for FSU, it's very,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: it's a very doable schedule, right? Very doable. You don't
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: have the LSUs of the world, the Bama's of the
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: world that we typically play, whatever we've been playing the
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: last four years with the ACC contract. Of course we
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: have Miami Clemson is on the schedule, but they're not
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  Speaker 1: the same Clemson. We won't get into the entire schedule,
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  Speaker 1: but as you just look at it, it's not bad
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  Speaker 1: at all. Um, He's proving that he can build a program.
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  Speaker 1: I know fans are pretty much sour on how he left,
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  Speaker 1: but he understands the lay of the land. He's still
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  Speaker 1: in town in Tallahassee. He's making calls to recruits. Well,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: not necessarily recruits, but coaches in recruiting areas, South Georgia,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: South Florida, and that type of deal. I have on
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: good authority that some high-profile recruits would flip to Jimbo
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  Speaker 1: Fisher if he was named the head coach. I have
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  Speaker 1: that on high authority. If he was to flip, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: if he was to be hired at FSU, um have
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  Speaker 1: on good authority that some high profile recruits would flip
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  Speaker 1: including maybe some possible five stars as well just the
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  Speaker 1: type of guy he is in the relationship he's built
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  Speaker 1: so those are some of the pros i feel like
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  Speaker 1: he will have and also like he he just knows
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  Speaker 1: the acc man but let's get some of the cons
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  Speaker 1: right possible cons is he past his prime a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people question that um The glory years at FSU.
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  Speaker 1: And then, of course, things kind of tailed off. And
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  Speaker 1: when things tailed off, it wasn't, he was still winning
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  Speaker 1: 10 damn games, right? Going to the Orange Bowl, competing
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  Speaker 1: for the ACC. At that point in time, we weren't
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  Speaker 1: winning the ACC because Clemson and Dabo, that's when Dabo
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  Speaker 1: was pretty much getting into his dominant ACC phase at
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  Speaker 1: that point in time.
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  Speaker 4: But you go back to the 2016 game, the.
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  Speaker 1: Dabo-Cook game, hell, we went blow for blow with those
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  Speaker 1: guys and really should have won that game at that
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  Speaker 1: point in time.
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  Speaker 4: Then 2017, we all know, Jimbo checked out early in
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: that season.
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  Speaker 1: And after losing DeAndre Francois and starting a true freshman
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  Speaker 1: in James Blackman, the rest was history. That's why we
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: went six and seven and seven and six that year,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. He ended up going to Texas
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  Speaker 1: A & M. He didn't pass his prime. Outdated philosophy.
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  Speaker 1: One of our biggest concerns, the biggest complaints at Florida
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  Speaker 1: State was the playbook and him being the offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 1: at that point in time, being a play caller and
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  Speaker 1: the head coach. We knew it was outdated philosophy. We
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: complained about, and it's funny as hell because we are
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: begging for field goals now, but there will be certain
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  Speaker 1: situations where it's like fourth and one or fourth and inches,
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  Speaker 1: and Jimbo wouldn't go for it, and he'll end up
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: kicking a field goal or something along those lines. And
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: fast forward to Mike Norvell, shit don't matter, fourth and whatever,
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  Speaker 1: Mike's going for it at any point in the field.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: But with that being said, I would not want him
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: calling plays. I would need him to bring in an
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. And from what I've been hearing, that's actually
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: the plan. That would be the plan is him to
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: bring in an actual offensive coordinator. So is the philosophy outdated?
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  Speaker 1: That's a question as well. He was fired from Texas
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  Speaker 1: A & M. He was fired from Texas A & M.
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  Speaker 1: Had a 45-25 record there, which is pretty damn good,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you. He was fired after going
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: 5-7 and 6-4 his last two years there. There's some context,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, to that. He lost his starting quarterback
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: in both of those years. I think one of those
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: years he was down to like a third-string quarterback. And
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: also at Mike Elko, for example, his record is damn
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: near identical to Jimbo Fisher at this point in time
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  Speaker 1: in their tenure as a Texas A & M head coach.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: The damn graphic is amazing because it's also similar to
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Kevin Sumlin. If you guys remember when Jimbo first took
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: the job at A & M, you see the comparisons
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: between him and Kevin Sumlin at this point in time
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  Speaker 1: in their tenure. And it was damn near identical. If
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: you look at the same graph with Mike Elko and
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Jamal Fisher at this time during their tenure, it's pretty
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: much the same, record-wise. What that tells me is it's
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: a Texas A & M issue. You have all the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: money in the world, this, that, and third. Those guys
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: just aren't built to win. Excuse me, they're just not
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: that type of program. No matter who the head coach is,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: it's just one of those programs that'll never win. Who
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  Speaker 1: the head coach, no matter how many resources you pour in,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: all the money, whatever, it's just not that program. And
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: even 45 and 25 isn't bad. It's not bad, but
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  Speaker 1: at the same time with how he was recruiting, which
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: is what we want, he was bringing top 10, top
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: 5 classes annually with Texas A & M, so you
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: expect better results. I get that 100%.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: I think that's a Texas A & M issue.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: You give me those recruits at Florida State, those recruiting
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: classes at Florida State competing with the ACC schedule, we'll
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  Speaker 1: be cooking, in my opinion. But yeah, at the same
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  Speaker 1: down point as during the tenure as far as, like
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I said, Kevin Sloan and Mike Elko, pretty much the
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: same record.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: So those are the cons that people have with Jimbo Fisher.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: And I know a lot of fans have the emotions
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: involved in how he left, you know, quote, unquote, quit
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: on the team and that type of deal. I get it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I definitely understand that. But that was– What year was
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: that shit?
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: 2017?
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Damn near 10 years ago. I moved on from that.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: It's time to play some big boy football, and I
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: think Jimbo Fisher would be a good fit. He's hungry
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: for the job. You get a chance to learn from
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: your mistakes at Texas A & M and Florida State
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: as well, too, and get your fire going and figure
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: out what you can do differently on your next opportunity.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I do believe this next opportunity will be a long-haul
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: opportunity for Jimbo Fisher if, before the opportunity, He'll want
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: to finish out his career and retire at Florida State,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: just in my opinion. This is the program. He really
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: didn't want to leave, in hindsight, what you had to
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: with everything that Texas A & M threw at him
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: at that point in time. So we'll see how things
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: play out. But Jimbo Fisher is a name to watch
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: out for as well. Well, not as well, but of
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: course he's a name to watch out for as he's
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: been kind of tied to it within, I guess you
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: could say, the last month or so. Next one to
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: discuss is Glenn Shuman, dude. UGA defensive coordinator. Let's talk
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: about this one a little bit in the comment packet. Glenn,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, is a really good recruiter. Really good recruiter.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Linebacker developer. You got Raylon Wilson, a five-star from right
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: here in Tallahassee, Lincoln. Ended up snatching him from right
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: up under our nose. He's balling for UGA. And that's
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: just one of the linebackers he recruited, right? I mean,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: those guys recruit that position at a very high clip.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Darren gets linebacker drafted every year in the NFL. I
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: will probably honestly call Georgia... Linebacker U right now with
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: how they've been producing has been really great since Kirby
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: has took over. And since Kirby has took over, Glenn
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: has been the focal point and the driving force behind
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: the linebacker position. It was also under Nick Saban at
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Alabama previously when Kirby Smarks, the defensive coordinator there. And
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the first call that Kirby made when he was named
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the head coach at Georgia was Glenn Schumann to come
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: onto his staff. So that's something to note as well.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Won't be an outrageous buyout, you know, being thrown around,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: you know, being a defensive coordinator at the University of Georgia.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: He also knows what it looks like, right? When I
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: say he knows what it looks like, he knows what
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a winning program looks like. He knows what a elite
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: program looks like. He knows what it takes, the ingredients,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: to build a championship roster, not just from a recruiting standpoint,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: a development standpoint, camaraderie standpoint, all of those things you can,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: you know, tie that to his time with saving, of course,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: his time with Kirby Smart in Alabama. He has also
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: been a part of some high-stake environments at Bama and UGA.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: So we all know the pressure that comes with being
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the coach at Florida State, right? That pressure can make
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: or break you. That pressure kind of broke Willie Taggart.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: The moment was kind of too big for Willie Taggart.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: You can say at a certain point that pressure broke
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Mike Norvell playing these high-stakes games, you have a fan
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: base that expects greatness, expects wins, and this, that, and
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the third, and when that isn't delivered, the fan base
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: is going to let you know about that. Georgia's the
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: same way. The same way. High-stakes environment, those guys are
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: all about winning. Bama, high-stakes environment, those guys are all
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: about winning. You lose one game, you're scrutinized heavily in this, that,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: and the third because of the program you built. So,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: He's been a part of a high-stakes environment, knows what
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: all comes into it. Now, of course, it's different being
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: a coordinator in a high-stakes environment type of job versus
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: being a head.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Coach because that's two completely animals.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: That's something he would definitely have to adjust with and
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: kind of learn on the job if he's given that opportunity.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, like I said, you've been
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: watching Kirby Smart and how he handled those situations. You
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: were under Nick Saban and see how he handles those situations.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: So the pedigree is... From a pedigree standpoint, it doesn't
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: get any better. It's top tier, right? But like I said,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: being a head coach is different, but you have comparable experiences.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: He has his chops in the south. He knows the
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: lay of the land, recruits the area. Front of Valdosta area,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: recruits Florida, Georgia, pretty much whatever you need within Tallahassee.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about my guy Grimes. He mentioned this all
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: the time. Everything you need in Tallahassee is within a
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: 250-mile radius. 250. Go over to Jacksonville, go west, Pensacola,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Alabama area, Georgia, and, of course, you have a central
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Florida area. Only time you need to go outside that
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: 250 is if you're going a little further south into
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: South Florida. But everything you truly need is within the
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: 250 radius. And, of course, you go down to South
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Florida and get your dogs down there from Broward Day
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and Palm Beach, right?
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: So he knows the little land. He knows those recruiting areas.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Knows those stomping grounds, already has relationships built in those areas,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: so it'll be a seamless transition for him to get in, recruit,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: and get going at Florida State.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about some of the cons. First time head coach.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: That's important. I mean, we're at Florida State now.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: We're at a very important, pivotal, excuse me, I'm not
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the greatest speaker, pivotal time for Florida State as far as.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: The program. We can't mess this up. We can't mess
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: this up.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: We already went G5 twice with Willie Tiger, Mike Norvell,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: didn't work out. If you mess this one up, you could,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: the program could be going, which I don't really believe,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: but the program could just be in a downward spiral
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: with how things are going from the NCAA standpoint.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: So you have to kind of get this right.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: So I do understand the pause on the guy that
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: never actually ran the program, but The closest thing, in
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: my opinion, to, I guess, running a program, if you're
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: not a G5 head coach, and even not being a
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: G5 head coach, being a coordinator at these type of jobs, right,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: these type of jobs, I think there's value in that
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: as well. So being a coordinator in these type of jobs, Georgia,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: just use Georgia for example, he fits that, Georgia, Florida, LSU, Bama,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: these type of jobs, like high-stake jobs where it's not
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: on the line and you're getting scrutinized very heavily at
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: those jobs. It's not, of course, nothing compares to actually
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: being a head coach, but being a coordinator at a
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: high state job does mean something.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: But again, that's it.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: That is a con, being a first-time head coach. How
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: much is the defense really him? He is a DC,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: but how much of that defense is really him? We
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: all know Kirby Smart is a defensive savant. Going back
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: to his Bama days, hell of a coordinator, even at Georgia.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Early on, he was kind of co-coordinated at a certain
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: point in time, too. You also had Mel Tucker, who
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: was defensive coordinator prior at Georgia. Dan Lanning, Will Muschamp,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: all coordinators as well. And now you have Glenn Schumann
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: taking over as the main play caller. Tucker went to
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: be a head coach at Michigan State. Dan Lanning, of course,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: he went to be the head coach at Oregon. Muschamp
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: is now the defensive coordinator at the University of Texas.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: The defensive rankings... They have taken a dip under Len Shulman.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: They have dipped to the mid-20s, if I'm not mistaken,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: versus being a consensus top 10 under those defensive quarters
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: and that type of deal, with recruiting pretty much staying
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the same. Now, the recruiting prowess of Georgia hasn't dipped off.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: They're still bringing in top 5, top 10 classes, still
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: prioritizing the trenches, elite linebacks, that type of deal. Recruiting elite,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I guess you could say probably Ohio State may be
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: That's a conversation of who's recruited the defense better over
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: the years. So I say that to say that your
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: defense hasn't fallen off from a recruiting standpoint, but your
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: rankings have fallen off. Those guys are pretty much a
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: lock in the top 10 to be in the mid-20s. Now,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: that isn't bad with today's offenses. It's just something to
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: point out that the defensive production has dropped under Glenn
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Shulman when they're recruiting under Curry Smart on the defensive
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: side of the ball. Hasn't dropped off at all. They're
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: still getting whoever they want out of the portal. Not
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the portal, but the portal too, I guess, but from
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the high school ranks. So that's something to note as well. But, again,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I do think Glenn will possibly be a good fit
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: for FSU. Those are some of the pros and cons
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: on Glenn.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: All right, let's go to the next coach. The next
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: coach that's been discussed that I like a lot too,
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Jake Dickard. Second-year head coach at Wake Forest. Those guys
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: are currently 7-1 and nationally ranked. If you guys remember,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: last year, his first year at Wake Forest, they went 9-4.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Really impressive team out the gate.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Went 9-4 after they went 4-8 the previous two years
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: before Jake got to Wake Forest.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Offense looks really good, really good.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: His last year, prior to being named the Wake Forest
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: head coach, he was a Washington State head coach. He
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: went 8-4 over at Washington State during his last year
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: before coming over to the ACC in Wake Forest. Even then,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I was kind of questioning, you know, why would you leave?
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Washington State to go to Wake Forest. But, of course,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: there's still the Pac-12 being dissolved and Wake Forest still
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: being an ACC foe, an ACC opponent. Well, ACC team, rather.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: It makes more sense to be in the BP4 versus
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the G5 ranks. So that makes sense. And he's done
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: a hell of a job there, right? He knows the
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: quarterback position. He knows the quarterback position. You guys know
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Ken Ward, right?
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Number one draft pick, Miami Hurricane.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: The quarterback that really kind of got Miami moving in
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the fourth direction in the trajectory that we see now.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Ken Ward, yeah. He was at Washington State. Jake Dickard
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: coached him at Washington State before he ended the transfer
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: portal to go to Miami. Gio Lopez right now. Gio
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Lopez right now. One of the better quarterbacks in the ACC.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: One of the better quarterbacks in the ACC. So, again,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: he knows the quarterback position. He recruits locally. He recruits
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: the Tallahassee area. He recruits the South Georgia area. He
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: recruits right here in town. Right here in town. Wake
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Forest has a true freshman, and you guys may have
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: heard his name before because he was a a popular
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: name last year, especially with the year he had, Deuce
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Lawrence from Tallahassee. He's from Tallahassee. From Tallahassee. Played high
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: school ball up in Thomasville. Tore the high school ranks
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: up last year at GA. Won the state championship up
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: in Thomasville in a very competitive division. Ran for over
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: 2K yards, if I'm not mistaken, in Thomasville. Just killed
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. Remember the state championship game? He was a
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: little bit talk of the town. A lot of FSU
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: fans were pissed because we didn't go after this kid.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell are we doing, right?
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Why are we not Recruiting this kid. He was very
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: elite in high school and within a division in Georgia
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: that's very damn tough. You guys know, man, Thomas County
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: played some good damn ball. Real good ball. One of
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: the better.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Thomas County, what?
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: They were probably the best team in Georgia, period, last year,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: regardless of classification. So, long story short, kid is tearing
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: it up in high school. The only P5 offer he had,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: or P4 offer he gets, is Wake Forest. And I
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: said it back then, too. Watch this kid go to
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Wake Forest. He tears it up. He's going to be
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: a thorn in our side for years to come in
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: the ACC. Whenever we play those guys, of course, we
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: haven't played them this year. We're not playing them this year.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: But he goes to Wake Forest now. He's currently their
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: second leading rusher as a true freshman. He has a
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: chance to really be their leading rusher in the season.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I think he's a second leading rusher off like 50
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: or so, 60 or so yards from being the number
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: one rusher. So he's firmly in the mix of the
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: running back rotation as a true freshman with Wake Forest.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: So he recruits the aerial. A kid from Tallahassee, true freshman.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: You hear that a lot, right?
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Kid from Tallahassee going elsewhere and playing ball and doing
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: good for other programs aside from Florida State. I am
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: sick of that shit. Like, I am so sick and
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: tired of that, man. As a Tallahassee guy, I know
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: the talent we have in the A5-0, and I know
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of these kids will love to stay home
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: and play for the hometown team But at the same
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: damn time, you've got to show them their priority. You've
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: got to recruit them, this, that, and the third. So
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you've got a kid like this who absolutely should be
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: in Tallahassee playing right now. But he's up their way
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: for us, ACC opponent. They could terrorize us for years
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: to come whenever on the schedule. So you bring Jake
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: to Tallahassee, you possibly bring that kid back home. But, again,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: he knows the area. That just shows he knows the area,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: knows talent, knows where to go for talent. He knows
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: how to maximize his resources. He knows how to maximize
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: his resources. You guys know Wake Forest has one of
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: the smallest NIL budgets in the ACC. I believe them
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: and Duke are under $ 20 million, if I'm not mistaken.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Under $ 15 million. I don't want to misquote. I think
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: they're under $ 15 million. I saw an article or some shit.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I think they're under $ 15 million when it comes to
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: NIL budgets. He knows how to maximize that. He recently
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: came out and made a statement talking about we're not
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: going to complain about the NIL budget.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: What we have is what we have, and we want
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: to maximize what we have.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: We're not going to use that as an excuse as
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: to why we're losing games because of the NIL budget.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: And these motherfuckers are 7-1 right now. He's absolutely right.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: That's not an excuse, especially in the ACC. And that's
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: the whole Norville situation that I just can't wrap my
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: hands around as far as The NIL budget, I think, oh,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: we need to pour more money into NIL. We're at, what,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I think FSU is 20, 25, whatever the number that
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: FSU is at. It was like middle of the pack
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: ACC or like top five or six in the ACC,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: whatever it may be. We need to invest more from
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: NIL standpoint. We can't compete with this landscape.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's true.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: You can't compete with certain teams. You can't compete with
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Ohio State. You're not competing with Miami. You're not competing
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: with LSU or the world, those type of teams, right?
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: That's known.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I understand that. But wait for us?
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Duke?
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Louisville?
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: The teams we've been losing to don't have bigger NIL
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: budgets than us.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: They really don't. Mike, if you're in the ACC, it's
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: only a few teams. Only Clemson, well, not even Clemson,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: only Miami from an NIL standpoint should be dominating you guys, right?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: But again, that's another conversation for a different day that's
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: going back to the Mike Norvell situation. But Dickard understands, like, hey, man,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of fucking money. I know
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: how to damn allocate that money and put that money
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: in the right spots and coach and develop these guys
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: to get the best out of them. We're going to
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: get the best out of our $ 13 million. We look
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: like a $ 13 million roster. We keep that shit clean, though.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: We keep it clean. We wash the car. We do
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: all that type of deal. We keep it clean.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: It may not be the most expensive car, but everything
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: up under the hood runs perfectly. Everything on the outside
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: is clean. Everything on the inside is clean, which I respect. Now,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you give him the FSU budget to work with, and
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: that budget should be a lot bigger as well moving forward.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: All right, so let's talk about some cons, some possible
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: cons with him.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Not a Southern guy doesn't know how to recruit the area,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: quote unquote, which I think is the most overrated notion
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: there is. I mean, he got the kid from Tallahassee,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: played in Thomasville, got him. I mean, if you focus
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: within his area, I think he can kind of do
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the same if he was actually here. I just think
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: that's one of the most overrated notions there is. As
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: long as you can coach fucking football and you know
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: And you're smart enough rather to hire guys who must
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: have to have all those connections. You do that, you'll
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: be fine. Damn, I ain't got connections in South Florida. Damn,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I ain't got connections in Georgia. Some of the best
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: talent in the country is within those areas. Damn, I'm
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: in Florida State now. That's my backyard. Let me go
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: hire some people that know Miami, that know Broward, that
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: know Palm Beach. They got relationships up in South Georgia,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the rural area, whatever it may be. Let me hire
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: guys that know the area. That's all you got to do.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Hire a staff that knows these guys, and you'll be fine.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Whoever has the connections, you'll be fine. Nick Saban had
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: no ties to the South before coming to LSU. Michigan State,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: he's a Midwest guy. Midwest guy, no ties to the South.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Come down to LSU, he understood what he needed, though,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: and understood where he was at. And once you get there,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: you hire the right guys. Once you hire the right guys,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: You build those relationships on your own over time. And shit,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: after that, Nick Saban was goaded down here. Go to LSU,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: go to Bama. Relationships everywhere. So you don't technically have
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: to have a guy with recruiting ties to the South.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: You just got to have a guy that's smart enough
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: to know what the fuck the talent is. Long story short,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: find a guy that is smart enough to know what
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: a talent is and hire guys that can go get
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: that talent in that area.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Simple as that.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: So that's pretty much Jake Dickerson. There's not really too
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: many cons, in my opinion, aside from, you know, you're
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: going from Washington State to Wake Forest, and there's a
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: lot more pressure. There's not a lot of pressure at
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Wake Forest and Washington State versus coming to Florida State,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: where there's 70,000, you know, packed stadium every night, you know,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: national TV games, primetime matches, whatever it may be. But again,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: if you have the roster for it and you have
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the resources for it, I think you'll be fine. Guys,
• 38:13
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• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Manny Diaz. Talk about Manny Diaz a little bit. This
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: is an interesting one. You guys know I like Manny.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I think he should definitely be a candidate for the
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: position 100%. I'm not saying you give the job to Manny,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: but he should 100% be in the running. Talk about
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Manny a little bit. 21-15 at Miami during his time
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: in Miami. First-time head coach. 23-11 currently at Duke. 23-11
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: thus far at Duke. He's currently 5-2 at Duke. ACC champion.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Knows Florida. Recruit the area pretty damn well, in my opinion.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: He's a Florida State alum. Understands the quarterback port of recruiting, right?
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Understands the quarterback port of recruiting. What I say about that,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: what I mean by that, rather, if you guys follow.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: FSU from a Twitter standpoint, well, follow FSU from a
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Twitter standpoint, you're kind of entrenched in the big three.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: You know about all these coaches, right? And how they
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: do or how they're doing, rather, due to the big
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: three ties. So if you guys remember, we called Manny
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: the portal king way before Mike. Melanie Diaz was literally
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: the first P5 coach, if I'm not mistaken, to kind
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: of dabble in the portal to that degree. He ended
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: up getting De'Aaron King from Houston transferred over to Miami.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Ended up going like 8-3 or 9-3 or something like
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: that during his second year during that time when he
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: had De'Aaron King. I think Jalen Hurts also took a
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: visit to Miami before and let him go to Oklahoma
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: with Lincoln Riley. So he knows how to recruit the
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: transfer portal from a quarterback standpoint. standpoint. Murray, I forget
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the guy's first name, but it was the Texas quarterback
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Manny's first year at Duke. Texas quarterback Murray entered the
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: transfer portal. Duke and Manny went and prioritized him and
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: brought him over to Duke from Texas. That really didn't
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: work out. What does he do the next year? He
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: goes and gets Mensah, probably the best quarterback in the portal.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: He brings him to Duke. And we all know how
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: that story ended. Mensah was one of the better quarterbacks
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: in the ACC last year, leading Duke to their first
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: ACC championship, winning nine games in back-to-back years for Manny. Then,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: of course, the last day of the transfer portal, and
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I hate this shit for Manny. I just hate it
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: for college football in general, but the game is the game.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: The very last day of the transfer portal, after announcing
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: previously that he was returning to Duke, he ended the
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: portal and transfers to Miami in the wee hours of
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the portal, right? Not giving Manny enough time to kind
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: of pivot and move forward From that and, you know,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: they also lost their best receiver as well, too.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: He's at Miami.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: So you lose arguably the best quarterback in the ACC
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: or the best quarterback in the ACC, in my opinion,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks in the country. He lose
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: one of the better receivers in the ACC as well
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: on the last day of the transfer quarter. That's fine.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: What does Manny Diaz do? He pivoted that to currently
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: five and two now. The man wins ball games in
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the ACC, bro.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: We're talking about Duke.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Duke.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Duke.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Like, Duke has been the punching bag of the ACC
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: for as long as I can fucking remember, man.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Like, Mike Elko did a pretty good job. Don't get
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: it twisted.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: But I think Manny has took that to another damn level. Like,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: it's Duke. Understands defenses. Understands how to recruit defensive backs
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: and just that type of deal. One of our– Makai Jones.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Is it Makai Jones?
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Makai.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: Hold on. What's the safety we got from Duke, the guy.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Something about starts with a D. Doesn't his last name
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: start with a D? I don't know. I know it's
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Makai something.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Makai?
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not Jones. What the hell number is he, man?
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: That's how terrible this FSU team is being this year.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: One second, guys. Put him in the roster to get
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: his name correctly. My apologies to Makai for not having
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: his name correctly. Correct.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: It's Mekhi Jones.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mekhi Jones.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: I was right.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, we have Mekhi Jones, who was a true
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: freshman for Duke, started as a true freshman for Duke.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: In the transfer quarter, we ended up snatching him from Duke,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: and he started for us. Now, do I think we
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: could have gotten better than Mekhi Jones? Absolutely. I do
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: think that. He had some limitations for sure. But the
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: dude was playing a good ball at Duke and was
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: starting as a true freshman, and we felt like he
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: was going to have to play for Florida State. So
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: you get Manny Arpolo. I think he can do pretty well.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: So the cons. He was fired at Miami. Fired at
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Miami as a first-time head coach. And I know as
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: FSU fans, that's your biggest gripe. Oh, why do we
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: want a damn reject from our rivals? Context matters. That's
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: that bullshit big three thinking. Fuck that. Think bigger picture.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Context matters. He was a first-time head coach. First-time head coach.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: First-time head coach at the University of Miami. He went
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: 21-15 at the University of Miami. Miami did not invest
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: in Manny Diaz at all.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: At all.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: At all. He had no resources at Miami. As a
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: matter of fact, Mario Cristobal wouldn't accept the Miami position
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: without certain assurances as far as investing in the program.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: So once Mario signed, everything was butter as far as
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the investment within the program. Manny wasn't afforded that investment.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: 21-15 as a first-time head coach. He wasn't even supposed
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: to be the Miami head coach at that point in time.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: He agreed to be the Temple head coach and should
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: have took that job to get your G5 training wheels
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: as your first-time head coaching job. But Mark Rick retired
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: from Miami abruptly, causing Miami to double back and panic.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I guess you could say panic and make the easy
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: hire in calling Manny Diaz back from Temple because he
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: actually agreed to that job. So you go to Miami
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: as your first-time head coach. You fail there at 21-15.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: You get fired. You go to Penn State as a
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator under James Franklin, very respected coach, and put
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: up elite defenses at Penn State. You leave Penn State
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: after learning from a real good head coach, learn from
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: your mistakes at Miami. You transition that and you you
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: transition that and you.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Bad kids.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: You transition that and then you Go to Duke, right?
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: He's been winning ever since then, Duke. Man, the dude
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: is 23-11 at Duke.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Like, bro. Over these last few years, I'll take 23-11
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: at Florida State. What we've been having with Mike Norvell,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: this man is 23-11 at Duke with an ACC championship
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: at Duke. So, again, I do think there's value in
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: failure when you learn from your mistakes. And I do
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: think many DSs learn from their mistakes at Miami as
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: a first-time head coach. He's still young. He's still prime,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: like I said, Florida State alum. So I think Manny
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: should be a solid candidate. I don't think Florida State
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: fans should dismiss Manny as a candidate just because of
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: his failures at Miami. Everything has context, in my opinion. Well,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: that one specifically has context. All right, guys, let's move
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: on to Deion Sanders.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Deion Sanders, popular name, right?
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I know Colorado fans, well, I ain't going to say
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Colorado fans, the primetime bandwagoners that we've been seeing on Twitter,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: the cult of primetime bandwagoners, they've been kind of pushing
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: for this.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like LeBron, man. That shit reminds me
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: of LeBron fan base.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: They're just trying to transition to their next damn team
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: to try to infiltrate in that type of deal and
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: be leeches. And that's what's happening with the primetime fans.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: Crazies over at Colorado.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Hey, they're looking at Florida State and trying to make
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: that push.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: So let's talk about it a little bit. It would
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: be a marketing dream, right?
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I think he would be able to attract top Florida
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: guys to come to FSU just off the strength. He
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: says all the time he is hard to find. In
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the FSU, he really wouldn't be hard to find at all. Like,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: it would be that easy. And that's part of the
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: reason why I wanted him to take The South Florida
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: job instead of the Colorado job way back then because
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like it would have been easier for that
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: G5 level to come in and dominate South Florida and
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: be in contention for the college football playoffs.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: You're in Florida. You're in Tampa.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: A few hours from his hometown of Fort Myers, you're
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: going to instantly, just like he did to Colorado, you're
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: going to instantly bring economic growth to the area. Colorado's
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: attendance was down. You hire a prime. They were still
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: not games. The exact same thing would have happened at
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: South Florida.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Those are the pros.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Not a lot, really.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: Cons.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: How serious are you as a head coach? This shit
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: takes work. How serious are you as a head coach?
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: It truly takes work. College football coaches, that shit is
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: a grind. How serious are you? You have the whole
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: notion that he doesn't do visits. He doesn't go on campus.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: He doesn't go into the houses and that type of deal.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Really, bro?
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: And I got flack from the Colorado Colts fans on
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: this because I feel that's lazy. That's a lazy recruiting tactic,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, to not do in-home visits. The greatest
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: coach of all time, Nick Saban, did in-home visits. In-home
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: visits and he recruited high school. Kirby Smart does in-home
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: visits and visits high schools. Ryan Day does in-home visits.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: He visits kids. Mario Cristobal, he visits these kids. Bobby Bowden,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: the head coach that you play for, that you love
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: so much, that you hold in such a high regard,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: one of the best head coaches of all time, prioritized visits,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: in-home visits. You talk about Mickey Andrews coming to your
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: basketball game to see you playing. As a recruit, you
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: have highlighted that. You have spoken about that. Hell no!
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: Right, right.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: If those guys can do it, why can't you do it?
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: You aren't bigger than the program as a head coach,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: but I'm sorry. And I think you may think that because, granted,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: you're still prime time. Huge personality. One of the most
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: personable athletes you will, colorful athletes you will ever see.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: He's just a walking– he's just walking– I don't know
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: the word used. He's just so damn marketable where he's
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: just a walking market. I don't know the damn word used, man.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: But whatever that is, he's that guy. I get that.
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: But, bro, this is football, man.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Like, you want the biggest fish in the pond to
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: come to this. These players matter more. These players come first,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: not you as a head coach, not you, your ego,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: to say I'm not hard to find.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Like, come see me at Colorado?
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: No.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Bro, these kids just aren't coming just because at a
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: certain time it could have been dead. And it was
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: in the beginning just because of your name. They could
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: try to come at that. But once you start actually
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: playing on the field and putting out subpar performances, product,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: you're not putting in the resources to actually recruit me.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: These kids want to be, they're divas. Simple as that.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: They want to be courted. They want to feel the love.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: They want to feel that. They want that. You have
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: to You have to press them. You have to do
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: all of that. You have to do all that. That's
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: one of the reasons. I just can't get behind that.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Their recruiting rankings have struggled due to that. They haven't
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: recruited well at all. Yeah, you get you a splash
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: player every now and then. You get the offensive tackle.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Of course, Travis on that type of deal, but Getting
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: one of those players every few cycles isn't enough to
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: win at Colorado. And it's damn sure it isn't enough
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: to win at the high level that Florida State demands, right?
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: So he also mentioned that if he went to one
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: high school, he would have to go to all the
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: high schools in the area.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: Deion, my brother. That's the point. That is the point.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: You build those relationships.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: You never know what those schools' coaches will have from
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: a talent standpoint in the future. They may not have
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: the kid you want right now, but in two years,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: they could have that guy. But you didn't build those
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: relationships in the beginning when you first got the job
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: with those coaches. You're behind the eight ball with that guy.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: So you have to build those relationships within the areas
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: within those schools. You've got to hit every damn school
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: within the area because you never know what those guys
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: will have. Recruiting is all about relationships, man. It's all
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: about relationships. You have to build those relationships, in my opinion.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: You never know what those schools' coaches will have from
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: a talent standpoint in the future. That's why you have
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: to keep going by that.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: And let's be frank, man. The CU experience has been
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: a disaster.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: They were really bad prior to prime getting there.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: But outside of hitting lightning in the bottle, we're flipping
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Trav from Florida State, and Coach, your son's been real lackluster.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I also didn't like how he handled the benching of
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: his quarterback, Lewis, The kid that was supposed to be
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: next in line behind Shador Sanders as, quote unquote, the
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: highly recruited quarterback and that type of deal. There's some
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: long lines of not actually talking to him and talking
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: about the benching and that type of deal. I feel
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: like that's a bad look, in my opinion, from Prem.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: You still have to develop mentally, right? You still have
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: to cultivate that kid. You still have to speak life
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: in him. He's young. He's young. You don't want to
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: throw him to the side. You're not ready now, but
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: we still believe in you. We still want to develop
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: you just in the third. You've got to have that conversation,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: especially when you're bitching one quarterback to another. I feel
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: like him saying that he didn't have a conversation with
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: the quarterback was a little bit crazy. But again, those
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: are the pros and cons with Deion. I would not
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: be a fan of actually hiring him to Florida State. Again,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: recruiting is the lifeblood of your program, and that shit
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: does a lot of work. I do think him saying
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not hard to find at Florida State versus Colorado
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: is a big difference. I don't think it's a big
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: enough difference to actually put FSU– in the category they
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: need to be at as far as winning these recruits
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: and then ultimately winning games on the field based upon
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: those recruiting wins. All right, let's go to my last
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: head coaching name we're going to discuss, and that's Eli Drinkwits.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: This is a name that's kind of popped up recently
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: since the head coaching job was announced. And again, I
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: do think there's interest from Eli and his camp. I
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: think he's kind of putting fillers out there and talking
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: to certain people and things like that. And that goes
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: to show you, man, like, don't ever get this shit confused, man.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: The logo is the logo. The logo is the logo.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Florida State is still the premier job in the country. Yes,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: we have been terrible in the last few years, but
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: you bring it in. And if you look at Doe
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Camel Stadium these last few years, this shit has been packed.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: This Clemson game this past weekend, it was packed. Until
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Clemson started putting on our ass and that type of deal,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: that's when people started leaving the game. But you have
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: a fan base that's hungry, a fan base that's committed.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: You have resources. Everything that Jim O'Fisher went away back then,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: you have now. You're in a recruiting program, the Florida
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: State Premier Program, you're in the ACC.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: So it's a lot of, I say all that to
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: say this, it's value within the logo.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: People still look at this as a premier job and
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Drinkwich kind of throwing his name in the hat kind
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: of proves that. But he's the Missouri head coach. He's
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: 51 and 31 at Missouri in seven years. Currently five
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: and two with the Tigers. ranked number 20th in the country,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: has Mizzou as a formidable team in ACC. Never had
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: a losing season as a head coach prior to coming
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: over to Missouri. His first year as a head coach
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: was at App State, went 12-1 there. He was out.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: He was the next head coach at Missouri. Pretty good
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: recruiter from Missouri standpoints. Was able to get five-star Luke DeBurton,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: a local kid from Missouri. Not saying local, but he's
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: from the state of Missouri. Was able to keep him on.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Was a big-time playmaker for the Tigers. If you guys remember,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: he flipped Javion Hilton, the four-star, four-line, five-star defensive end
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: from Florida State, flipped him from us. Javion Boggs, our
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: current receiver, he was committed to Missouri at a certain
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: point in time as well. You guys know Boggs. He
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: was all around the high school, Mr. Florida, this, that,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: and third. Both of those guys went to Coco, so
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: he knows how to trap in Florida for sure. He
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: has an emphasis on a defensive line. Emphasis on a
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: defensive line. Really good D-line play from Missouri. I'm a
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Ravens fan, had Zion Young go second round for Missouri
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: last year.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: That's another topic.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Zion Young was pretty much, he took an official visit
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: to Florida State. Could have been a layup for us
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: as well, but he let me go to Mizzou out
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: of the transfer portal from Michigan State. You know, going
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: second round from those guys. But I do think he'd
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: be a solid recruiter. He has a winning record versus
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: University of Florida as well, too, with a talent discrepancy,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: a big talent discrepancy. He's four and three versus the
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Gators with pretty much in every matchup having lesser talent
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: than what Florida would have. I would like to see
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: what a possible staff would be from, I guess you
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: could say, a con standpoint. I would like to see
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: what his possible staff would be. FSU gets a bigger job.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: He recruits well for Mizzou, but will he be able
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: to recruit an elite level that FSU requires? Not exactly sure.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: We'll see how that plays out, if he would be
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: the guy. His staff would be key. He can come
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: off kind of corny at times, which I don't give
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: a damn and care less about. That's how you coach.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: He doesn't mind talking shit either. He'll throw some shots
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: in the media to other teams and that type of deal.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: It's been a big talking point from people that follow
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: the SEC or feel like the SEC is overrated that Mizzou, well,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: not Mizzou, but his drinks record itself First-ranked teams. Granted,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: it's not great. One, it's still Missouri. It's still Missouri.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're battling giants in the SEC like Georgia, Alabama, LSU, Texas,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: et cetera. So he's still at Missouri.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: He always beats Florida's ass.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Like, Florida is a team that has more talent
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: than him. Florida is, quote-unquote, a premier SEC team, too.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: And if you look at the recruiting rankings, Florida should
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: be whooping Missouri ass with a game. He has a
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: winning record against them, so he punches above his weight.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: With that being said, the ACC isn't the SEC. We
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: know that. He shouldn't have any issues. You got what?
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Miami?
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Clemson was that type of matchup where they're currently on
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: a downward swing, in my opinion. Louisville, North Carolina, SMU.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, again, it's the ACC. Miami is the
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: only team that has the comparable talent to the teams
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: we just discussed in the SEC that he's losing to.
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: So to say, what's his record?
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Again, this is nitpicking bullshit, in my opinion, especially for
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: a program that's been getting, we're fucking 10-22, man. Whatever
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: record I say, it might not feel as 10-22 Am
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I correct? 10-22 since the 2024 season. 10-22.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: So being in the ACC, he shouldn't have any issues
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: with those games. Like I said, you have Miami. Miami
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: and Clemson.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: And Clemson isn't the same Clemson that we have come
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: to know over the years.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: So I think that's a BS argument.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: But again, that could be a possible con because the
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: record is the record and it's not great against the
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: rain teams in the SEC. But again, we're talking about
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Mizzou against some of the more talented teams in the country,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: regardless of conference. You bring that to the ACC. For one,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: he'll be able to recruit better players than Missouri. He'd
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: be able to recruit better players to Missouri. Of course,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: there's all staff depending on that type of deal. He'd
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: be able to recruit better players at Missouri. And for two,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: he's playing in a conference that's not as strong as
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: the SEC. The ACC is very winnable. Again, I encourage
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: you guys to go look at our schedule for the
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: 2027 season and tell me how many teams you see as, oh, hey,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: we got to bring our A game for this one.
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: How many teams you see as, damn, that's tough.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: There's not many.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: So I think Eli Drinkwich would be a solid head coach.
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: Those are the pros and cons there for him.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Again, I think he would be a solid one and
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: a guy that has a pretty good damn job in
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: the SEC, rather, excuse me, in Missouri. But Florida State
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: is one of those jobs, in my opinion. It's a
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: premier job. That's all we have as far as the
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: coaching candidates, guys that we've been hearing about and that
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: type of thing. I just want to give my take
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: on a few of those guys. Of course, everything is fluid.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: We just fired Mike Norvell yesterday, so this shit could
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: change tomorrow. This is where we're at with it right now.
• 1:00:29
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• 1:00:33
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• 1:00:35
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• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: I think we got a call. We got Corey.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Corey, you there?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Muted.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: Need you on mute, Coy, if you're available.
• 1:00:56
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• 1:00:59
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• 1:01:01
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• 1:01:06
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• 1:01:08
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• 1:01:10
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• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: No, you there, bro.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Talk to me. How you feeling, bro? Hey, man. To me,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: for me, it's Jimbo or Bucks for me.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Personally.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: I just feel like he know what it look like.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: He done– been done that, you know what I mean?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: And as far as the recruiting and everything, you know,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: I know a lot of people got hesitations talking about
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: his office, but he don't run no office different than
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: anybody else. Just receivers got no coverage, you know, when
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: the sitting's on, when the going man, you know what
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: I mean? They got to be on the same page
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: with the quarterback and everything. You know, I know the
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: game haven't passed them by because I was looking– where
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: he did a little interview with Fullback for Stevenson, man.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: And you can hear the passion.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you can hear the passion instilling his voice, you know,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: how he wanted it and how he talked. All that
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: man can talk ball all day long, you know what
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 6: I mean? And I know the flow, the flow with
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: Jimbo is nine wins. I mean, that's the bottom.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: And you don't really have to worry about it.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: And thing is, he's.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: A big name. he going to get a quarterback in here.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's the main thing, you know, you got
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: to really look at with a lot of these programs,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: the trenches and the quarterback, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: And that's who I am with that. I mean, a
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 6: lot of these other coordinators and stuff, they improving. And,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean? A lot of them could
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: have been just doing good because of who the head
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: coach was at that program.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: That's how I feel about it.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean? And the thing I'm saying with,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: This thing with Norvell, man, that, you know, it's crazy.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 6: When another coach was here, you know, six wins wasn't
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: good enough. But you get this dude in here and
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: then his agent put together a deal to get you
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: out of money, you know, because he had supposedly wanted
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: to go to Alabama. Alabama wanted him. You know, that
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 6: was the ski load that they tried to push. And
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 6: you give him all this money. And all of a sudden, 6-6.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: I mean, he go less than 6-6. He go 10-2.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: And it take all this time to get this man
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: up out of Tallahassee. But, I mean, he finally gone.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: Thing done, the witch is dead.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: So, you know, to me.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: But that's my take on it, man.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: You know, I don't know how you feel about it.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: No, I agree with you 100% on as far as that.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: But I don't want to discount the whole coordinator notion
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: type of deal because you have– A few coordinators in
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: the last cycle that are doing pretty damn good, like Kentucky.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: What's the Kentucky's head coach name? He was the officer coordinator. Stein,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Will Stein. He was the officer coordinator at Oregon, and
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Kentucky is looking damn good. So I do get your
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: point to that degree. But if you can coach, you
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: can coach.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: Don't you feel like we're at a point where we
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: got to get something proven here, man?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: We can't mess this high up. I do think we
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: can mess this high up. I do think we're at
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: a critical point in the program.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: With how college football, the landscape is moving. I agree
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: with that a hundred percent.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: I do agree with that a hundred percent, but I'm
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: at the point where like, I don't feel like I'm
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: not going to say all candidates are not, are good
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: or all candidates aren't bad candidates, but I just feel
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: like moving on from right now, I'm going to be
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: happy with who the fuck they bring in. Let's be
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: completely honest with you. That's true. I don't have an
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: issue with any of the candidates that I named or
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: any of the candidates that unless it's like prime or something,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: I'm really not, I'm not a fan of that. But
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: any of the candidates that I named or any other
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: fan may bring up, I wouldn't toot my nose to
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: it because I've seen coordinators come in and actually make
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: a difference.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: I mean, do you think about the financial aspect, too? Because,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 6: you know, this man ain't going to want all that money.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 6: So Texas A & M is still paying him.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: So that pans into it, too.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: We know we've got to pay Mike Rodell $ 50 million,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: whatever the hell it may be.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 6: Because whoever you get, they might be on the contract
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 6: with that other college team.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: You got to buy them out.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Then after you buy them out, you got to bring
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: them and another staff over on top of that.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: No, you're right.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: So to your point, like I said, if you bring
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: in an active head coach at another school, you got
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: to buy them out. Well, so you're buying out Mike.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Then you got to buy out Mike's staff. Then you
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: got to buy out this coach. You got to hire
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: him on a new contract. You got to hire his staff.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: So it's a lot of money involved.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of money.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of money.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: And, you know, I mean, Jimbo told him a long
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 6: time ago, you know, it was going to come to this.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 6: Ain't nobody listen. And, you know, everybody act like an ex-girlfriend.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 6: Will you take your ex? Man, that's business, man. You know,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: that's apples and oranges, man.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: That's my point, too. Apples and oranges. That's business.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: You know, people saying that, you know.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, they offered to pay for that man's
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: son medical bills and all. Like, Texas A & M
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: got money, man.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: And who win at Texas A & M?
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Don't nobody win, though.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, nothing big.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: I mean, they ain't won a national championship since World
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 6: War II.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm going to let somebody else call in
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 6: or whatever. But, you know, that's just my take on it.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: I'm Jimbo or Buzz, man.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: I know they're going to look at other candidates and stuff.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: But I believe he could put together a good staff, man. And,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 6: you know, man, truth be told, the way this– man,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 6: we get a quarterback and get the trenches right, man,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: we could be by.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Next year or a year after, I feel. You know
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: It could be instant. Man, listen, you really can't– I'm
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: telling you, look at the 12-game fan. Look at that
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: damn schedule for the 2027 season. If you bring in
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: the right guy, you can– The word is, we're going
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: to this 24. Next year should be the 24-th inning playoff. Like,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: you could really be in the playoffs year one. You
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: could really be in the playoffs year one. You could
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: be second in ACC.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: You could possibly be first in the ACC because I
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: think Miami is great. Mario is great from a talent
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: standpoint as far as bringing in talent, right? But I
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: do think when it comes to actual coaching in certain situations,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of flaws in that. So if you
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: bring in a guy.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: He's a bad game day coach.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: If you bring in a guy that has comparable talent
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: with him, again, right. So if you bring in a
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: guy that can bring in comparable talent and Jimbo, a
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: known recruiter, can bring in comparable talent to Mario, shit, man,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I like us.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: So I know one guy can actually coach.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this before I go.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 6: How long do you think Miami can keep that up,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: going to the portal, getting the best quarterback ever out
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 6: of the portal?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: How long do you think they can keep that up?
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: As long as the money's long. As long as the
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: money's long, bro. As long as the money's long and
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: they're making the adjustments with how the portal, with putting
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: the cap on the portal, Miami can do this shit
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: all day, bro. They can. Okay.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, man.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, brother. Yes, sir.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: Appreciate you.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Make sure you guys hit that like button, subscribe to
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• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: get your takeoff, let us know and let's do it.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: Let's hang out a little bit. But yeah, guys, that's
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: where I'm at. And just hearing the conversation I've been
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: hearing about the things that Jimbo could come with, it
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: definitely has me intrigued. But I'm I'm like all these kids,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Aside from, I'm not a
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: fan of, I'm just, with Deion, I think if he
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: would have, that whole not taking, not going on the road,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: something like that's, no. And I do think at Florida State,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: he does have a case for the, I'm not hard
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: to find at Florida State being in Florida, but still though, man,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: you got to get out there and you got to
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: build those relationships.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: It's not about you. It's about these kids.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: So something interesting, CJ, I put in the chat. I
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: kind of started a poll about 15, 20 minutes ago,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: just listing the coaches for the people to vote on.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: Dickert's at 19%, Jimbo at 65%, Eli Drinkwitz at 4%,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: and Manny Diaz at 12%. So only about 50 votes.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: So anyone listening, make sure you put your vote in there,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: but I'm just curious to see what, you know, what,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: what the fans want.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: You're on Twitter all the time. You don't, you don't
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: really know. You see all sorts of tweets.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: So.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, I'll show up in the conversation and do
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: that for us. Very interesting.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: I like that. And again, I like, I like what
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: Jack is doing the way for us, man. He's really
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: making a good case. I'm not lying to you, man.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Those guys are pretty damn impressive. And to see that
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: running back go there and, Everybody on the timeline was
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: talking about that running back last year doing Thomas County's
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: playoff run.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's only a mile from it. He was pretty good.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Right, I'm joking, bro. That's the crazy part. We seen
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: how great those guys was. We was kind of wondering
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: why the hell we didn't get involved. And sure enough,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: we said then, he go to Wake Forest, he's going
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: to kill there. He's their second-leaning rusher. He has a
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: chance to be their leading rusher after the freshman year.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: So you bring Dicker, you're probably bringing him back home
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: for sure. But again, I like Dicker, but– With Jimbo,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: what he could do, man, from the resources that he
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: could get, his recruiting prowess and that type of deal,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: I just need certain assurances whenever they do have those,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: I guess, interview hiring process, whatever it may be.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: Offensive coordinator, you're.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: Going to get out of the way and pretty much
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: just be a GM and kind of delegate things and
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: that type of deal. If Jimbo does that, I'll be
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: all on board for it because I do think him
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: as the main play caller has passed his time. But
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: as far as recruitment, developing guys, coaching them up, game
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: day decisions and that type of deal. If he lets
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: everybody else do their job from a coaching standpoint, the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: guys you hire, let them coach, coordinators coordinate, he should
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: be perfectly fine. All right, guys. Anybody else want to
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: get in and chop it up? If not, we're probably
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: in the show. But again, hit that link and jump
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: in if you guys want to get your takeoff. Talk
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: about the Mike Norvell fire and how you guys feel
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: about that. Or you could talk about the new coaching hire. Interesting.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: I do think FSU should have went ahead and pulled
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: the trigger on Mike Novell last year against Stanford, just
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: kicking the tire down the road. Everyone knows that. Tried
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: to call in, but Lincoln didn't work for me. Hit
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: that link again, Wells, if you don't mind. Hit that
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: link again if you don't mind, please.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: He asked a question instead. He said, who would you
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: want with coordinators if we hired Jimbo?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: That's a good question.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: So, Cade Bell is a guy that's been kind of
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: linked to who I would like a lot. Cade Bell
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: is the Pittsburgh offensive coordinator. Real young guy. Real innovative.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Really well regarded as a recruiter, too. He's making like
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: less than a million dollars at Pitt, if I'm not mistaken.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: He's coming off from 1.5 or something. I'm absolutely sure
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: he'll take a double his salary plus being in a
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: better situation at Florida State. So Cade Bell is a
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: guy that I would target initially. I see the comments,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: someone mentioned Chris Wienke. I want to be so– I
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: like Chris as a quarterback. Coach Wienke did a good
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: job with GT as a quarterback coach, but their offense
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: this year at Georgia Tech hasn't been good at all.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: Is Cade Bell Valdosta State, CJ, one– Was he there
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: when I, I think I was there when they won
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: the Natty. I think Cade Bell was at Valdosta State
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: when I was there.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Cade Bell was at Valdosta State for a minute.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: He was the quarterback. He played there. Yep.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: No, he didn't play there.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: He played at JU, but he was the coach at
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Valdosta State. He was the GA from 2006, and then
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: he was the quarterback coach 2007.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: Offensive quarter end of 2018. Yeah, that was the hours there.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, Cade Bell got– so, I mean, Val Dawson,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: you got ties to the South.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on now.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: Title time.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: And guess where he's from? Cade Bell's from Gainesville, Florida.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Gainesville, Florida. So, Cade Bell would be a guy that
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: I would look at. I think if you give him 1.5
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: and opportunity to come to Florida State, I mean, it
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: would be a no-brainer. So Cade Bell is a guy
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: I like a lot. I know we mentioned the Memphis
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: coach is pretty damn good, actually. 21, I read the
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: Memphis coach. I like, I like the Memphis head coach.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: The big issue with that is, is Memphis, right? We're not,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: we're not going to double back on Memphis probably two
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: years in a row with superstitions and beyond, which he's black.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: Damn sure everybody go for another black coach at.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: This point in time.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: We need him to leave so that Memphis circles back
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: on Norville and drops that buyout.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Charles Huff. Charles Huff is a real
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: good job, real good coach, but the, Issue with Charles,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know if people say he hasn't stayed at
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: a program more than one or two years.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: We're not fucking Southern Miss and goddamn Memphis.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Like, bro, come on now. If he fucking comes to
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: Florida State and starts winning, he's not going anywhere. I mean,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: if you come to Florida State and start winning, what
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: programs are you going to go to and win? Like,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: if you're winning at Florida State, what program can you
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: go to that would be a promotion, so to speak,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: or a better job? If you're winning, unless you're taking
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: a job like a dream school type of job, so
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: you play that damn Alabama or some shit like that,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: you know, that type of deal. So I say that
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: to say this. If he was to come to Florida State, Charles,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, we were to hire him. You don't
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: have to worry about him leaving within a year or two,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, especially if he's winning. Florida State is
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: a premier job, a premier job.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, you never finished. You answered OC,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: but he said coordinators. So circle back to DC if
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: you have a name, because he said Jimbo is the
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: coach who would, who would be your coordinators.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: So my coordinator, I will go for, I will go
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: for Glenn. Glenn's shooting him. I'll shoot for the stars
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: for Glenn. If Jimbo's your head coach, you should have
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of money. Um, you should have a lot
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: of money from your coaching pool, in my opinion. And
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: real quick, I'm sorry about the pull up his salary
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: right now. I looked at it. Um, a few weeks ago.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: I feel like George at that point would just match it.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: They could, because he's making 2.2 there, so they definitely
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: could match it. I will start off with three and
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: kind of go from there. But again, you can have
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: a conversation and say, let's do....
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: Let's do.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: Head coach and waiting?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Correct. Let's do that. At a certain point in time,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: you get three mil here, whenever Jimbo retires, you will
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: be the guy. We're not saying that it's going to
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: be a rush or anything like that. We know Kirby
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: Smart damn sure ain't going nowhere, right? He's going to
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: retire a Georgia Bulldog. Jimbo is older than Kirby. Give
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: Jimbo a three to four year contract. And after that
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: three to four years, we'll see how things play out.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: But whenever that time come, you will be the head
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: coach in waiting. So if you could give him three,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: three mil, pay him like a real G, real solid
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: G5 salary. Plus the promises of possibly being the head
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: coach in 2000. Well, I'm saying that 2000 or whatever,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: whatever your Jimbo retires. I think that would be a
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: pretty good move. And also, Travars Robinson is a name
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: to watch out for, too. He's a name that I've
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: been hearing as well, Travars Robinson. T-Rob is the co-defensive
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: coordinator for Georgia. And it's funny, I kind of mentioned
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: that as well, too. He's been having a lot of
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: co-coordinators along the way, going back to Mel Tucker, Dan Lane,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of co-coordinators along the way. But Travars Robinson
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: is a hell of a recruiter. Really good recruiter. Currently
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: from Miami. He's currently at Georgia. 17 years experience. One
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: of the top recruiters in the nation. Really good coach.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: So T-Rod would be a guy I'd definitely reach out
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: to from a defensive coordinator standpoint, in my opinion.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: We got Ryder Dye.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: What's that?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Ryder Dye?
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: Got you.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: You locked in.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: Talk to me.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: How you feeling, bro?
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: All right. How y'all doing tonight, CJ?
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Pretty good. Pretty good.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: Kind of off topic a little bit.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: I want to go back to, do you think we
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: should go ahead and give the quarterback, what's his name,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: Malachi and Sperry a shot starting from, what's going on
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: with that situation?
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: So with Malachi, he may not be on the fucking
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: team anymore, to be honest with you.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Okay.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: Because it was reports that prior to the game, when
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: he signed with the agency last week, they don't want
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: to say like Wednesday or Thursday once the Injury report
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: came out. He was listed as probable.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: He wasn't seen on the sideline at all on Saturday.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: So it may be a situation.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: Maybe a situation.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Where he's talking about exploring the internet transfer portal. But
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: all of that was done prior to the Mike Novell situation.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: So you never know with Mike being fired.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: He's talking about that as far as coming back.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: If he was to come back, I would just to see.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: What do you have to lose? Yeah, because I was
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: thinking about, man, you know.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: I saw comments in there trying to rare shirt. There's
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: no such thing as rare shirt nowadays. You get five
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: years to play. That whole rare shirt shit is pretty
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: much out the window. You get five years to play.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: No rare shirt or not, you get five years to play.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: He was Juco too, right?
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: So he has three years left to play. So there's
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: no such thing as a rare shirt this year. Well, anymore.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: You just have five years to play flat out. Of course,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: you get more. with waivers and that type of thing
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: if you have injuries. But NCAA did away with the
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: rare shirt situation and give players just five years to go.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: So that's why Deuce Robinson can actually come back next
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: year if he wants to. That's a different conversation. But
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: go ahead, Ryder.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: My apologies. No, you good.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: I was just going to say, you know, he should
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: have been a little more patient. If that's the case,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 5: you know, he'd have moved on because I felt like
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: if he had an opportunity, I'm thinking like in terms
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 5: of back when Jordan Travis got the opportunity, it was
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: against Boston College.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: Remember that? That very first play.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: Jordan Travis ran it for a touchdown, man.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget. When I played, he did not play
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: in the Willie. And once Browse was the full-time guy
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: with Odell being the coach, Right. And the rest is history.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: And the rest was history, man.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: You know, I think situations like that, some of these
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: kids got to be a little more patient, man.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: I agree. I agree.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: And that's the portal era now. Like, if it's not
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: given to you right now, these kids are leaving.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: It's unfortunate. They literally are just leaving off-ripper. You're never
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: given the time to actually play out, which is crazy.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: And also, I feel like you're... I think... it builds,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: adversely builds character too. Like going through the crowd for
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: a bit, it truly builds character. Like everything is a
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: given to you, man. It really is.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: Like you really have to go through certain things to,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: you know, get to what you want to get.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: So just, I think we're kind of giving bad, we're
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: teaching bad lessons or we just, when things get tough,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: you just quit and go. That's a different conversation for
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: another day, in my opinion. But yeah, if Malachi is
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: currently still in the roster, I would absolutely play him
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: down the bench and see what you can do. See
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: what he has at a certain point. I would.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because at this point, Ashton Daniels, you know, he
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: didn't show good moments. But this last game, man, that
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: was his worst game he done had since he been
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: at FSU, man, four turnovers like that. You know, and
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: a lot of them turnovers was on him because I
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: don't know why Mike Norvell was running him out of
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: the pocket like that and giving him the option to
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 5: throw the ball. That dude cannot throw on the run.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: I noticed that. That was a terrible decision for them
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: to roll him out of the pocket.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: He was having to roll left and throw on right. Yeah.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: Rolling left and throwing with his right arm is not
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: a good thing.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: That's never good anyway on any quarterback.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: Whenever we was rolling, like, whatever we was rolling, I
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: was looking at, I was at the game, so I
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: was able to see the routes kind of develop. Whenever
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: we were rolling, it was, the routes weren't even in
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: his area really. Like, there were certain times where he
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: was just rolling and he didn't have shit to damn
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: throw to. Like, he was just rolling the road. And also,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: he did a good job of scramble drills as well, too,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: once he was outside the pocket. A lot of those
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: guys were just like, what the hell am I doing?
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: Kind of standing around. But I knew the interception was
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: absolutely bad, but the play calling wasn't good at all.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Norville throwing him to the left, having him throw right
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: when there's literally no receivers within the road, within that
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: area that he can kind of throw to.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: It was just ugly from top to bottom.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: Ugly play calling, ugly game plan, ugly play from the players,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: just unprepared all around.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just unprepared, man.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: Hopefully these guys can get some type of development from
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: here on out the rest of the season.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Because, I mean, you think about it, CJ.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: Ain't nobody on Florida State roster getting developed to me, man.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, you got even from defense to offense, man.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: I say linebackers.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I take that back. Yeah, I
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: missed that. Yep, yep. You're right. Yeah, I take that back. Yeah, linebackers. Yep,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: you're right. Wide receivers are pretty good, too, though, you know.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: I think so, too. We have some issues with drops
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: in certain situations. But if you– we've had the opportunity
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: to really expose some people in the passing game with
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: just Ashton Daniels holding the ball too long, missing reads
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: and that type of deal.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I agree with you 100%.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I appreciate you taking my call, man, and
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 5: I'll let you get on to another caller.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Y'all have a good night.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: You as well, man. I appreciate you. All right, guys,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: we got time for one more possible caller. If you
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: want to jump in the chat, sorry, not the chat.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: If you want to get on to the call, rather,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: go ahead and hit that link and we'll take care
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: of you. If not, we're going to wrap the show up.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: But again, hit that like button while you guys are
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: still here and subscribe to the community if you haven't already.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: But yeah, rolling him out that way, man, that shit
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: was just a recipe for fucking disaster. Just looking at
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: the route concepts within those rollouts, man, Ashton.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: Daniels didn't have a chance. He didn't have a chance.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: So it was just bad all around.
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  Speaker 1: Bad game planning, bad play calls, bad preparation, kids unprepared,
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  Speaker 1: especially off of.
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  Speaker 4: Bobby, too.
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  Speaker 1: And the funny part about Mike Novell, and I said this,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: he would do Mike Novell's going to do Mike Novell's shit, right?
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: So when news is coming out, hey, you know, he
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: does this, they may possibly keep him. He do this,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: they may possibly keep him. And we're looking down the
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: stretch of like, oh, Clemson isn't looking that good. Pittsburgh
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: down to their third-string quarterback. I think we underestimated Mike
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: Norville being how bad. I mean, so we underestimated Mike
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: Norville being Mike Norville, in my opinion. And we also,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: if you guys been following me, you know, I kind
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: of highlighted this four game stretch, right? This four game
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: ACC stretch with Virginia, Louisville, Miami, and Clemson. And I
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: feel like, I think I said this, like I went
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: from any streams on both sides within this four game
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  Speaker 1: stretch to either go one way, one or two ways rather,
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  Speaker 1: we either be in Charlotte for the ACC championship, Well,
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  Speaker 1: we would be firing Mike Norvell, and sure enough, we
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: were one of three, and he was fired after that stretch.
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  Speaker 3: CJ, one quick thing, because I know Ernie's been promoted
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  Speaker 3: to D.C. Is that somebody you think they would retain,
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  Speaker 3: the new coach, like for linebacker coach? Maybe the one coach, right?
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  Speaker 4: A few coaches, actually, from what I hear, and I
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: don't know how.
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  Speaker 3: This might be another video, but we can talk about
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: it for a second. But this might be a potential
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  Speaker 3: video we do. So just be quick with it.
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  Speaker 4: I got you. That's a good point.
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  Speaker 2: So possible.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I've been hearing. We don't know how
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  Speaker 1: true this will be. Possible guys from the Mike Novell
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  Speaker 1: staff that could be retained. One guy that I think
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: the administration wants to hold on to is Ernie Sims.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: And rightfully so. Ernie is Florida State royalty, Tallahassee royalty.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: One of the best players to come through Tallahassee in
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: It's supposed to be linebacker. But all that aside, the
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: linebacker play has been night and day since last year, man. Like,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: it's really been night and day since last year. And
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about guys that have already been on the roster, too.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: Omar Graham, for example. Omar Graham looks so much better
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: from what he did last year under John Patuas. Like,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: so much better. The energy in the room is a
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: complete 180. It's night and day. Went to a few
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: practices and went to a few practices over the years, right?
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: Coach Papp's energy is nowhere near the same as Ernie's energy.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: Ernie's energy is contagious like that shit. Once Ernie get
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: between those lines, you see the same player you saw
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: on the field where Ernie seems like the intensity, the craziness,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: all that type of deal. It pours into the players
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: and you see a guy like Chris Jones who kind
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: of feeds off of those guys and kind of cut
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: from the same damn cloth. So you bring in a
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: Chris Jones who I told you guys was probably the
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: most important portal addition in my opinion. You bring in
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: or you get better play from Omar Graham who looks
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: damn good. Caleb Lovelli looks, am I pronouncing Caleb's last
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: name wrong?
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: Caleb Lovelli, who's looking damn good. He's looking damn good.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: Caleb's looking damn good.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: So the linebacker as a whole has been completely better
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: from last year to this year.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: Keep giving him more time to develop those guys. And
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: also the young linebackers we brought in too, right? The
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: young linebackers, Isaiah Williams, he got hurt for sure. And
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: I think he kind of rushed back too soon. That's
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: a different conversation. Probably could have gotten a mic for them.
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  Speaker 1: Breach it now. I don't know, man. Get out of
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: them buyout, man. Get out of that buyout. But long
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: story short, we have a bunch of young linebackers. Daylon Green,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: Noah Lovelli, Isaiah Williams. Those guys. What's the kid from
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: Miami we got as well, too? The linebacker from Miami.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: Drawing a blank. He ended up getting a late offer
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: from Florida and Texas as well. But again, we have
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: some really young linebackers as well, too. So you want
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: to keep Ernie Simmons moving forward. Also, Nick Williams is
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: the guy that the staff wants to keep, too. Nick
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Williams is the guy that the staff wants to keep
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: to the defensive end coach. Those guys have been playing
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: a lot better, too. Kennedy, he's been one of the
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: bright spots on the defense. And Nick is a young,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: up-and-coming guy, really good recruiter. I think he'll benefit a
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: lot better from an actual hit. Kyra Mayock, appreciate you.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: That's the linebacker. Kyra Mayock from Miami Central. late offer
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: from Texas, Florida offer him, I think Miami offer late
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: as well. Those young linebackers are really good, in my opinion,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: and could be cornerstones in the future if Ernie continues
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: to develop him. But Nick Williams. Nick Williams is a
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: guy that I think would be retained as well. I
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: think Nick Williams is a guy that the administration likes.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: He has a lot of potential. And just kind of,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is your, Jim was going to
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: be the guy, but Nick Williams was also He worked
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: under Jimbo Fisher at Texas A & M as well, too.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: So we have that connection. But I do think Nick
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: is one of the bright coaches in the game, has
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: a pretty good future. So that's a guy that they'll
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: want to keep as well. So Nick Williams, Ernie Sims
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: from the offensive standpoint. There was one more name that
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: I saw that FSU could possibly want to retain. from
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: the offensive standpoint. Herb Pan.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: I'm going to keep Herb Pan as well, too. Herb
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: Pan is a really good coach, really good developer.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: I do question the recruitment because we don't have a
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: damn recruit committed on.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: The offensive line at all.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: But at the same downtime, how much is that to
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: Mike Norvell's think with us being right in the 50th?
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: But from a development standpoint, you got to see how
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: good offense, they're not as good as they are this
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: year as they were last year, but it's night and
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: day compared to the offensive lines we saw under the
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: former offensive line coach, Alex Atkins. So we had one
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: of the best, it's crazy with five or seven last
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: year with probably the second best offensive line in the ACC.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: Different conversation for a different day. But I think Herb
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: Hinn will be a guy that I want to keep
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: as well. So those are the, Three coaches that I
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: could possibly see stick around. More confidence in Ernie Sims
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: for sure, and Nick Williams being on that side of
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: the ball with how young he is from a defensive
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: standpoint and being regarded as one of the good recruiters,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: really good recruiters, young good recruiters in the country. So
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Nick Williams, Ernie Sims, and possibly Herb Hand, who's a
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: damn good developer on the offensive line. All right, guys,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: so those are the coaches I think that could possibly
• 1:29:55
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• 1:30:12
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