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Claire McCaskill 'Congress spoke with one voice' as Dems threaten legal action over Epstein files · DEEP INSIGHT

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  Speaker 1: And that's what this has always been about, from the
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  Speaker 1: very very beginning, control over the process, who controls the files,
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  Speaker 1: who gets to seize the see the files. Talk a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about that and why your concerns right now
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  Speaker 1: are playing out the way they are, and what that
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  Speaker 1: may mean for going forward.
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  Speaker 2: I did not ever think it was a good idea
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  Speaker 2: to drump dump hundreds of thousands of pages of raw
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  Speaker 2: investigative material from a complex, years old criminal case into
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  Speaker 2: the public domain. A lot of it's going to come
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  Speaker 2: out decontextualized as it already has, It's prone to misinterpretation.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to see, I think, just more conspiracy theories
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  Speaker 2: spun out of this. We're already seeing conspiracy theories. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to call them conspiracy theories. Actually, we already
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  Speaker 2: hearing concerns about why something was posted and then maybe
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  Speaker 2: taken down and the like. I think that the point
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  Speaker 2: that you and Alicia made is a really critical and
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  Speaker 2: unavoidable one, which is there is no distinction Trump and
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  Speaker 2: the Justice Department on this issue, So you cannot know.
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  Speaker 2: No one is ever going to be fully satisfying. To
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  Speaker 2: the extent your skeptical about the Trump administration handling this
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  Speaker 2: or even skeptical about whether they will release material related
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  Speaker 2: to him. I don't think anyone should take any assurance
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  Speaker 2: from this White House or this Justice Department about anything.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the reality is it's sad and unfortunate perhaps,
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  Speaker 2: but if people want some certainty about whether and to
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  Speaker 2: what extent there's material in the Epstein files that references
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump, I think they're going to have to wait
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  Speaker 2: for a new occupant in the White House to have
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  Speaker 2: any kind of assurance on that senator.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Part of this, in part of the release on Friday,
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  Speaker 4: and we anticipate even more documents and material being released,
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  Speaker 4: is the fact that there were some images of Bill
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  Speaker 4: Clinton that were released. And on one hand, over the weekend,
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  Speaker 4: Trump bowllies administration officials were waving these pictures up in
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  Speaker 4: the air saying, hey, look, Democrats, this is what you
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  Speaker 4: get for calling for the release of the Epstein files.
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  Speaker 4: But then today a spokesman for the former president was
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  Speaker 4: quite explicit there in a statement in which he said,
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  Speaker 4: what the Department of Justice has released so far and
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  Speaker 4: the manner in which it did so, makes one thing clear,
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  Speaker 4: someone or something is being protected. We do not know whom,
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  Speaker 4: what or why? But we do know this we need
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  Speaker 4: no such protection. And that's a spokesman for former President
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  Speaker 4: Bill Clinton. How do Democrats grapple with the release and
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  Speaker 4: the production of more materials that frankly put some individuals
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  Speaker 4: that have been long heralded by the party in an
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  Speaker 4: unfavorable light.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think that anybody should worry about that
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  Speaker 5: at this point. You know, we have a vote of Congress.
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  Speaker 5: I think there was one member of the House that
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  Speaker 5: voted against this law and maybe one senator. I don't
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  Speaker 5: remember how many senators. So Congress has spoken with one
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  Speaker 5: voice here. This isn't about Democrats or Republicans. This is
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  Speaker 5: about a decision that it all comes out. They really,
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  Speaker 5: under the law, they were supposed to release all of it.
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  Speaker 5: They released less than five percent of the files. They
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  Speaker 5: say they have less than five percent. Now, by the way,
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  Speaker 5: they were able to marshal enough FBI agents to scour
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  Speaker 5: all these files for Trump's name back earlier this year,
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  Speaker 5: and obviously Trump didn't want them released once he was
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  Speaker 5: told by Pam BONDI your name's all through them. So
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  Speaker 5: I think I think you're going to see both Republicans
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  Speaker 5: and Democrats move towards inherent contempt, which means it doesn't
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  Speaker 5: have to go to a court. It just takes a
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  Speaker 5: vote to the House and then they can start fining
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  Speaker 5: Pambondi an amount every day until she follows the law.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about what could possibly be in these files
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  Speaker 3: on Kush on what it is that we are looking for.
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  Speaker 3: This was Representative Rocanna on Blue Sky. This is sort
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  Speaker 3: of his Epstein checklist from today. We hear there will
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  Speaker 3: be another doj Epstein released this afternoon. Again, it is
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  Speaker 3: now seven pm in the East and we have not
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  Speaker 3: had that release. Here's what Representative Thomas Massey survivors and
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  Speaker 3: I want One the FBI witness interviews, which names other men.
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  Speaker 3: Two the Epstein email sees from his computer. Three the
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  Speaker 3: sixty count draft indictment for the eighty two page prosecution memo.
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  Speaker 3: I want to zoom in on numbers three and four.
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  Speaker 3: They're right, sort of like the legal pieces of this
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  Speaker 3: because it is in many ways what I personally as
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  Speaker 3: a journalist, have the most questions about. What would stop
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  Speaker 3: them from releasing the draft indictment and the prosecution memo.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, I think that they're going to take the
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  Speaker 2: position that this material is protected by attorney client privilege
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  Speaker 2: and work product protections. I think that seems that maybe
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  Speaker 2: the position they're going to end up taking. And we
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  Speaker 2: talked a little bit about this on Friday. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: despite the fact that like attorney client privilege can be
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  Speaker 2: a little complicated in the government context. You know, as
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  Speaker 2: Senator Mecaskill just said, Congress spoke with one voice here.
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  Speaker 2: Regardless of whatever I thought about whether the law was
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  Speaker 2: a good idea, they did speak, the laws passed, and
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  Speaker 2: it ought to be complied with. I do want to
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  Speaker 2: just seize on one point that you made, which is
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  Speaker 2: the distinction between items number one and two in three
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  Speaker 2: and four in that list. And you're right, three and
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  Speaker 2: four are interesting and could potentially be quite useful. One
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  Speaker 2: in two could contain a lot of allegations and information
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  Speaker 2: or claims that are not even true.
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  Speaker 4: Attatatatatatat