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A Sensitive Gangster Lunch (RHUGT EP 7 Recap) · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous Podcast with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Almost Famous. This is truly one of
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  Speaker 2: my favorite days of the week when I get to
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  Speaker 2: jump on and talk to my co-host, Lauren.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, hi.
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  Speaker 2: Hi. About the ultimate girls trip from the Real Housewives
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  Speaker 2: season 20 or the roaring 20s. We're celebrating 20 years
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  Speaker 2: of this thing. We see that during this episode quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit. The ladies start the episode in lingerie. They
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  Speaker 2: have an emotional gangster lunch. I still want to know
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  Speaker 2: what that means when you say gangster lunch. There's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of gangster talk, mob talk, but there was... I
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  Speaker 2: don't really understand what that was. And then the episode
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  Speaker 2: ends with a Halloween party that I kind of feel
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  Speaker 2: bad about. And I'll tell you why later.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. You're going to leave me hanging on that? Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. That's what the art of podcasting is, Lauren.
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  Speaker 2: You just like drop cliffhangers. The problem is half the
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  Speaker 2: time I forget to actually talk about it. And so
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  Speaker 2: the cliffhanger just lives out there forever. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Just pissing people off.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so we'll get to the gangster lunch, which I
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  Speaker 4: found to be very interesting. But first, we start at
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  Speaker 4: the lingerie party. A lot of these women look amazing,
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  Speaker 4: and they're in their 60s, and they look bomb, but
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  Speaker 4: they are in Miami, so we know that there's been
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  Speaker 4: some alterations done.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very perky. Yes. Very perky for 60s.
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  Speaker 1: We love to see it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Here's a couple questions I have about a lingerie party.
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  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: When you, when, I'm not going to say when you,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm not going to ask you to speak
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  Speaker 2: for yourself. It's okay. When women go to a lingerie party,
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  Speaker 2: is the mindset, hey, I want to be the sexiest.
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  Speaker 2: I want to be the most fashionable. Do I want
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  Speaker 2: to stand out the most? I mean, we saw everything
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  Speaker 2: here from corsets to like see-through bras. I think that's
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  Speaker 2: what you call like that thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we literally saw nipples.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I would say personally, mine would be to like, make
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  Speaker 4: sure my body looked the best out of everyone's, even
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  Speaker 4: if there was like tape involved, it needed to be
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  Speaker 4: the best. I don't really don't care if I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you could tape things.
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  Speaker 1: In the place.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, but definitely like, you know, put the boob
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  Speaker 4: tape to lift them a little bit. There's lots of
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  Speaker 4: contraptions out there. Um, I would use, um, definitely fishnet
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  Speaker 4: stockings because that is very sexy and it hides any
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  Speaker 4: cellulite you have.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting. I remember like back in the day, like stuffing
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  Speaker 2: was always like a kind of like a conversation. Like
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  Speaker 2: do they stuff their bra or not? But I feel
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  Speaker 2: like watching this stuffing would be popular, right? Like you
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  Speaker 2: would definitely do that and it would be acceptable.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you're talking middle school, high school with the
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  Speaker 4: stuffing with like when you had to use tissues, right?
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  Speaker 1: Or whatever you could find really. But now they've made advances.
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  Speaker 4: So there's actually like flesh colored chicken cutlets you can
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  Speaker 4: put in and tape and hooks and everything.
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  Speaker 2: This is not hooks. This sounds so painful. You said
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  Speaker 2: tape and I thought I had to take a bandaid
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  Speaker 2: off of my ankle last night and it hurt me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You're not meant to be a woman.
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  Speaker 2: Like tape on very sensitive areas of your body. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then at the end of the night here, okay,
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  Speaker 2: here's my question. And I'm just asking you, I think
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  Speaker 2: this is what the housewives have done for me. I've
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  Speaker 2: had a lot of curiosity when it comes to, to women,
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  Speaker 2: even though I've been married for five years, my wife
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  Speaker 2: is just, you know, she's a skincare expert. She's not
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  Speaker 2: doing a lot of other things.
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  Speaker 4: I was going to say she's low maintenance, but I
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  Speaker 4: don't think she's low maintenance with her skincare.
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  Speaker 2: No, very, like very intentional about our skincare, very low maintenance.
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  Speaker 2: Like if we're going out to dinner, she can get
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  Speaker 2: ready in 10 minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Every girl.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Trust me. It's awesome. But if you're I'm imagining
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  Speaker 2: these housewives, they're going to a lingerie party. They all
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  Speaker 2: throughout this whole season, at least a few of them
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  Speaker 2: do seem very horned up. If they meet a guy. OK,
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  Speaker 2: walk me through this. They meet a guy at this party.
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  Speaker 2: They go back with him and they start to like kiss.
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  Speaker 2: then things progress. At what point then, like, is the
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  Speaker 2: guy going, let me remove your hooks, tape, cutlets. Like,
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  Speaker 2: how does that work?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, if there's tape, I would say, excuse me,
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  Speaker 4: let me go get the tape off before. Like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't want you seeing that, but if there's chicken cutlets
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  Speaker 4: and stuff, those are very easily removed with like your
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  Speaker 4: bra and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's not that embarrassing, but also like think of the
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  Speaker 4: mindset of a horned up man too. Um, if you
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  Speaker 4: had to remove some tape, you wouldn't really care.
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  Speaker 2: No, I guess not. But it would. No, probably not.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes with Hunter, I'm just like, I didn't shave. He's like,
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  Speaker 4: do you think I care at all?
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  Speaker 2: Is that going to stop me?
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  Speaker 4: Nope.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we do see, like we said, the women show
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  Speaker 2: up to this lingerie party. We were curious about this party.
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  Speaker 2: What was it? What is it? What's it about? I'm
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  Speaker 2: enjoying the women from Miami because being in Honduras so
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  Speaker 2: often and having some of my friends marry Hondurans. Um,
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  Speaker 2: and being obviously just growing up in life and like
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  Speaker 2: the Latin, um, spouses that I'm around, like they are feisty.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a thing. And like, they're not, this isn't
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  Speaker 2: like a, a stereotype. They just are feisty. They're feistier
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  Speaker 2: than most. They speak their mind. It's something I enjoy
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  Speaker 2: being around because you always know where they stand. And
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  Speaker 2: we see this with the group from Miami. You think
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  Speaker 2: they hate each other for a bit. And then they're
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  Speaker 2: like going to the bathroom together and giggling. It's just
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  Speaker 2: the way they work. And it's awesome to see.
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  Speaker 4: Um going off of that um we have lisa hockstein
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  Speaker 4: hockstein don't remember don't know and um larsa and they're
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  Speaker 4: fighting um but they're fighting in a way that like
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  Speaker 4: best friends fight where you know at the end you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna laugh about it and that was one of my
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  Speaker 4: favorite parts of the episode where they go outside and
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  Speaker 4: she's like push her against the wall and she's like.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, no, stop it. You're a stupid bitch. And
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of like sister fighting.
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  Speaker 2: You need therapy.
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  Speaker 1: It was so, I need therapy or they need therapy?
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  Speaker 2: I think they said it to each other. They need therapy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so they need therapy. Like they're just so close
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  Speaker 4: and I believe it with them. Not like the fake
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  Speaker 4: friendships that we've seen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a depth here. We've been in Miami now for,
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  Speaker 2: it feels like a while, but it's really only like
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  Speaker 2: an episode and a half. Miami is known for its nightlife.
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  Speaker 2: They have a great time. The weather is typically really great.
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  Speaker 2: So you can be out late night. You're not getting
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  Speaker 2: frozen like we see in New York. People enjoy themselves
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  Speaker 2: down there. They do like to drink and party and dance.
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  Speaker 2: Miami's been a fun week for us, I think. I
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  Speaker 2: think it has brought the cast together in a way
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  Speaker 2: that was not existing in previous towns and cities. This
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  Speaker 2: ultimate girl strip, Vicky is really the one I'm thinking about.
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  Speaker 2: She's come out of her shell. She has. And Portia
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  Speaker 2: mentions it to her. We see this Vicky that I
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  Speaker 2: think rose to stardom on Housewives. We're starting to see
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  Speaker 2: that Vicky. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm really loving to see it. I think Tequila is
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  Speaker 4: doing well for her. That's definitely working down there. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: she's probably like had time to also just warm up
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  Speaker 4: to the personalities of the girls and like felt a
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  Speaker 4: little more comfortable and a little more included.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, everyone's taking notice of that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't really remember Vicky's outfit, though, with the lingerie.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure she'd be one of the more conservative ones.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if we like highlighted Vicky during this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if she wanted to be highlighted.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is, again, something that they're asking
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  Speaker 2: her to do that's now outside of her comfort zone.
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  Speaker 4: They should have had her highlighted in her suite getting ready.
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  Speaker 1: There's definitely tape there.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that happens during this whole episode, though,
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  Speaker 2: there is a lot of conversation, mostly when we get
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  Speaker 2: into New York, a little bit still in Miami. around
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  Speaker 2: past relationships from the show. So there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: names being thrown out there that I am unfamiliar with.
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  Speaker 2: Have you talked to so-and-so? What's your relationship like with so-and-so?
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  Speaker 2: And there's flashbacks that Bravo does so well when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to those past friendships that are now revisited. I
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  Speaker 2: am fairly out of touch with all of those. I
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  Speaker 2: don't understand what they're saying. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 2: I know that Lisa and Larsa are chatting kind of
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  Speaker 2: and bringing up past people. Is there any of these
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  Speaker 2: relationships that stood out to you that said, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 2: I forgot this, or I'm so glad it was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: paid attention to?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I know New Jersey, a little bit about New Jersey.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. And so Teresa and Melissa, we know Teresa, Melissa
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  Speaker 4: is her, sister-in-law and she was an OG housewife as well,
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  Speaker 4: but they've always had like a bad relationship, but I
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  Speaker 4: guess that's why they, someone's asked Teresa. Oh, Jacqueline, have
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  Speaker 4: you talked to Melissa? And she's like, yeah, we're on
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  Speaker 4: okay terms. So basically we're just like, there's so many
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  Speaker 4: people at the party and they're just like saying, are
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  Speaker 4: we okay? Or is everyone okay? And basically everyone is okay.
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  Speaker 4: So we're just like kind of flashing through all these
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  Speaker 4: like relationships I've had issues. Um, I would imagine it's
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  Speaker 4: hard to not run into your sister-in-law and not develop
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  Speaker 4: an okay relationship after 20 years.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 4: Um, So that's the one that I kind of knew
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  Speaker 4: of when they were talking. And then Lisa and Larsa
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  Speaker 4: are talking. And I think we may need to have
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  Speaker 4: a little more context on that from Heather.
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  Speaker 2: Heather, will you give us some follow-up? I know Larsa
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  Speaker 2: is Marcus Jordan, Michael Jordan's son's ex-wife. Is that Larsa
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  Speaker 2: Pippen too?
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  Speaker 1: Larsa Pippen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So is that bizarre?
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  Speaker 2: So she was married to Scottie Pippen as well?
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  Speaker 3: Yes. So I can't give too much background on the
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  Speaker 3: fight or riff between the two of them because I
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  Speaker 3: haven't watched Miami in years. And like I put in
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  Speaker 3: the notes, Miami was on hold when they were filming this.
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  Speaker 3: And then Miami has now since then, like again, been
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  Speaker 3: put on pause for years. who knows how long so
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  Speaker 3: it has not been renewed um but yeah the the
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  Speaker 3: whole argument is basically like larsa being like uh you
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  Speaker 3: still follow my ex and you're supposed to be my
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  Speaker 3: my girl and then lisa barlow jumps in in her
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  Speaker 3: interview and is like well i follow her ex too
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  Speaker 3: because we met on super yachts and i am not
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  Speaker 3: gonna unfollow him anytime soon sorry.
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  Speaker 4: So lisa hockstein and larsa Or fighting because Lisa still
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  Speaker 4: follows Marcus Jordan.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: And then Lisa Barlow jumps in and she just needs...
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  Speaker 4: This is where we're starting to see Lisa Barlow name
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  Speaker 4: drop and act like she's more important than she is.
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  Speaker 4: Because she just had to throw in that we were
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  Speaker 4: on not yachts, super yachts.
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  Speaker 2: Super yachts. That's one thing, Lauren, I did want to
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  Speaker 2: bring up. Kind of the... One of the storylines we've
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  Speaker 2: been following and commenting on is Lisa Barlow, because she
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  Speaker 2: has been such a polarizing character, not only during her
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  Speaker 2: time on Housewives, but also through the girls trip. We've
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  Speaker 2: seen moments where people go, wait, is is the dislike
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  Speaker 2: or the. that resentment towards Lisa warranted from the woman
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  Speaker 2: in Utah. And at first we were like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: see it. I don't get it. And then we start
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  Speaker 2: to see signs and we start to see things that
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  Speaker 2: might be annoyances if you're around too often. Lisa Barlow
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  Speaker 2: and Larsa do chat about this Ben Affleck premiere of
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  Speaker 2: The Accountant 2. Ben Affleck has to be sitting at
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  Speaker 2: home giggling. That if he's watching this, that there's so
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  Speaker 2: much controversy surrounding one of his movie premieres. It is
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  Speaker 2: incredible free press for him. And I don't even think
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  Speaker 2: the accountant, too, did that well in theaters. But both
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  Speaker 2: are talking about going to the premiere and being around
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  Speaker 2: Ben Affleck. This was a conversation that annoyed the women
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  Speaker 2: from Utah because Lisa kind of name dropped this and
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  Speaker 2: they got sick of her name dropping. And I've made this,
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  Speaker 2: you haven't been around for it. The Almost Famous listeners
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  Speaker 2: have been around for it. One of my biggest annoyances
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  Speaker 2: in life, and I've stopped talking about it because I
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  Speaker 2: overdid it for so long, is self-describing. And so when
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  Speaker 2: you come to me, Lauren, and we're in a conversation,
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  Speaker 2: you're like, you know, I am one of those honest
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  Speaker 2: people that cares too much. I'm like, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you can say that about yourself. I think others
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  Speaker 2: have to say that about you. Well, Lisa... here says
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  Speaker 2: i don't like to name drop i'm not a name
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  Speaker 2: dropper uh she mentions that when somebody says that to
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  Speaker 2: me after they've just name dropped three names i go
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  Speaker 2: no i think you're exactly a name dropper i would
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  Speaker 2: rather you'd be like the girls from miami and be
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  Speaker 2: like no 100 i'm going to tell you every famous
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  Speaker 2: person that's in my phone every famous person i've talked
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  Speaker 2: to and i want you to do like proudly because
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  Speaker 2: that's just what you enjoy doing yes.
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  Speaker 1: Ben, I couldn't say it any better.
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  Speaker 4: It was a really hard watch because I think she
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  Speaker 4: even name-dropped more people than Ben Affleck within a three-second
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  Speaker 4: time frame. Like, Larissa was like, you're name-dropping. And she goes,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not name-dropping. I was just with Gwyneth Paltrow. Like,
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  Speaker 4: it was a very bizarre thing to see. And to
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  Speaker 4: see someone be so un-self-aware is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Because.
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  Speaker 4: Because I couldn't imagine not overthinking every word that comes
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  Speaker 4: out of your mouth. But yes, the self-describing is 100%
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  Speaker 4: a pet peeve, especially in the dating world when guys
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  Speaker 4: will be like, I'm a nice guy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a nice guy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, now I know you're the devil. Thank you
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  Speaker 4: for actually saying that.
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  Speaker 2: I would say it's a red flag. You make a
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  Speaker 2: great point. When you're dating somebody and they're telling you
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  Speaker 2: there are positive attributes all the time, I would actually
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  Speaker 2: pause and say, maybe I should revisit if these are
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  Speaker 2: true or not.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was really fun and fun to watch.
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  Speaker 4: But also, I'm not liking Lisa anymore, just with that
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  Speaker 4: one little sentence. But going back, going being invited to
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  Speaker 4: these premieres, honestly, isn't like the craziest thing in the world. Ben,
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  Speaker 4: how many premieres have you gone to? There's been lots
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  Speaker 4: of premieres, lots of invites. It's like a PR thing.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like you're friends with Ben Affleck.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, I was just recently with Brad Pitt. See? See? No.
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  Speaker 3: See?
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  Speaker 2: It's not. They're just not a thing. And, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: think of a better example of this because they, for
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  Speaker 2: a while, were making a killing doing it, is your
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  Speaker 2: sister and her husband. Like, Jared and Ashley would go
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  Speaker 2: to all these Tom Cruise premieres because whoever behind the
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  Speaker 2: scenes found out that Jared legitimately loves Tom Cruise.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Ashley loves Tom Cruise and they are excited to promote
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  Speaker 2: whatever Tom Cruise is doing. And so as a result,
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  Speaker 2: they have found their way into rooms with Tom Cruise
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  Speaker 2: and Now, if Ashley and I are at dinner and
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  Speaker 2: she drops that she is hanging out with Tom Cruise,
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  Speaker 2: I'd say, Ashley, you're not hanging out with Tom Cruise.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's not what's happening here.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: But Lisa will double down and be like, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: So like at the after party thing, we we hung out,
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  Speaker 4: but she probably just said, like, can I get a
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  Speaker 4: picture with you?
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  Speaker 1: And then that was it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in the corner being surrounded by a
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  Speaker 2: thousand other people. And she walked up at some point
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  Speaker 2: and said, I'm Lisa. You might know me from The Housewives.
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  Speaker 2: And he goes, oh, yeah, okay. And they get a
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  Speaker 2: picture and that's them hanging out. And honestly, good for her.
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  Speaker 2: I want her to be excited about the life she
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  Speaker 2: is living. I'm not... But just let's not cover it up. Like,
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  Speaker 2: let's be more in the vein of this is so
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  Speaker 2: cool that I got to be invited to a premiere
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  Speaker 2: of a movie because I'm on reality television. Now... That's
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: really from Miami. What I'm going to take from this
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: lingerie party is it is a bonding experience for the
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: girls on the road trip. There are some side conversations
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: about past friendships and life lived. And everybody, like you said,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: is looking great. Not only because they're in their fifties
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: and sixties, but also they just dressed up nice and
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: it looks like a fun event that everybody got to
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: attend and they felt good doing it. The next day,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: we find out that the women are traveling to New
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: York City. When I think of the housewives, I think
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: of Beverly Hills, just not even being like a deeply
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: ingrained fan for years of my life. It's just I
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: think of New York City and I think of Beverly Hills.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Those are the two places that come to mind. I
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: don't know why for me, but those are it. New
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: York City makes sense, I think, because it is where
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: things started. And you had some big characters come from that,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: like Bethany Frankel. Who's done great, you know, from starting
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: on this show. And I remember hearing that story.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. There are.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: A couple people that I, you know, wish we saw.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: But first, Dorinda shows up to greet Luanne as Luanne
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: is in bed with her boyfriend, her man friend.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: And Dorinda is amazing. Dorinda is like one of the OGs.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Her and Luanne are still close. Have you seen Dorinda before?
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Do you know anything about her?
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Was she a part of the table flip scene?
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: No, that's New Jersey.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. No, I've heard her name. I think you
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: have mentioned Dorinda's name. Her name, like when she said
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Dorinda is showing up, it sparked a, hey, I need
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: to pay attention to who this person is because I've
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: heard about her.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Um, Dorinda developed a, a drinking problem basically like while
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: on the show, like every season she got sloppier and
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: sloppier and sloppier. So now she's sober and we see
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: that at the, um, gangster lunch.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Um, yeah, because the first time they went there, I
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: think they were in like Queens or something. It's kind
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: of like, you know, classic old Italian restaurant, um, wasn't
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: super fancy. So everyone was like roasting her roasting Dorinda
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: being like, why are we here? Why are we here?
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Why aren't we at like, you know, the most fancy
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: place ever. We're too bougie for this. But then they
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: ended up having like the craziest, most iconic lunch of
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: all time. And it was like a gangster lunch. Cause
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: everyone was just yelling at each other and they're in
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: like Queens and they're all wearing, you know, their little
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: like boas and stuff. So now it's the iconic gangster lunch.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: So that's kind of the background of it. But now
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Dorinda is doing it sober.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: So this gangster lunch is not a themed lunch necessarily.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: It's giving an ode to a past lunch that happened
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: on the show that just happened naturally. Okay. Yes.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Okay. But yeah, so Dorina's amazing. I'm really sad we
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: didn't get to see Ramona or um, or Sonia. And
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: they said that Sonia won't get out of bed for
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: like less than $ 5, 000. So I'm, I'm assuming they're not
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: paying very well here.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, they're in the Bronx.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: They're not a Queens or they're in the Bronx.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I didn't put two and two together when you said that,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: but That's probably true. If they're not getting paid that
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: well to show up to this, this is more of a,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: you get screen time and your relevancy will increase. And
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: then people will be talking about it the next day.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Like we are that you showed up or didn't show up,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: but Hey, she said no. So she didn't have to
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: take up the time and we're still talking about her.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: So she got everything and more from this lunch, even
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: without going. But I do think if I'm a housewife and,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: We're about to do this with The Bachelor Cruise. There
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: is something special about a reunion. And I think you
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: never know, especially with what I'm learning about The Housewives,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: when something's going to be a reunion and when something's
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: going to be chaos. But this ends up being a reunion.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: It's very sweet. It's very heartfelt. It is people getting
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: together who are friends or acquaintances or have just known
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: about each other. but they all have this similar thing
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: in common. They've been through this experience. They know what
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: it's like to have their life aired out. And so
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: many of them, especially Teresa, have been through it during
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: this show. Yeah. And been judged for it.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: It was very nice to see everyone kind of like
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: just calm down. Like no one showed up late because
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: of glam. No one was pissed at each other for
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: something stupid that happened in the car. It was nice
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: that they were just like going around, like sharing their stories,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: especially all as mothers and being like, I am subjecting
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: my children to this TV show and scrutiny when they
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: really didn't have to, when they all were saying they
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: have mom guilt.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: And that, that must be crazy.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: Especially Teresa seeing all these people around her that have
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: gone through the same thing.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: And she was just like, I.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Can't believe maybe also this show is like what, brought
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: scrutiny into my family and what made us go to
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: me and my husband go to jail. And now I
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: have to deal with all of this, but the women
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: are really supporting each other from, from every single city.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: And it was really sweet.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: And I can't believe that all of this heartfelt, like
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: talk was happening while Luann had a, her.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Own mugshot on her shirt.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I was like, how could anyone take her seriously with
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: a fedora and her own mugshot?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Do you like Luann now?
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I might be with the women being like, hey, she's
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: She's a lot.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's a lot. I like her as
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: a character on this show. I think she is funny.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I think she's unapologetic. I don't think she's self-aware. I
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: love how she thinks she is the hottest thing in
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: the room at all times.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Sexy, sexy, sexy, yeah.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: And so I do appreciate it. I don't love the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: bullying on any side. Real Housewives is kind of known
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: for it, but I did find it funny when somebody...
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I forget when it happened this episode, but they said,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: there was a moment where I got a phone call
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: or I woke up to two guys' voices.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: One was Lance and one was somebody else. Yes, it
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: was Carol. That was Carol. So Carol's a big part
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: of this.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: She kind of was the host of this gangster dinner,
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: although Dorinda should have been.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: But.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Carol, her iconic line was, I woke up to two
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: male voices, one of them being Luann's.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: So that's like a... True housewives will say that line
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: once a day, probably.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: But Carol is.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Kind of the head of the table here she talks
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: about how she wrote something for bravo con and i
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: honestly when she was reading it i was like this
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: is so corny oh my god this is so embarrassing
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: i thought they're gonna do like clown music in the
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: background you know how they try and like make you
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: think a certain way by the music and i was
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: like waiting for it and then ever's like that was
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: beautiful i'm like forged in the fire of housewives yeah
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: what i'm glad they liked it i don't know I'm
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: with you.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Okay. But it's sweet and they're trying. And I think
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: for me, victories here look in the way of, hey,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: can they get through a lunch without yelling at each
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: other or somebody leaving feeling worse about themselves? However, it
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: does seem like what I'm learning about the Housewives franchise
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: is these women are so calloused to criticism that I
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: don't know how like any type of critical feedback or
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: being laughed at. Even affects them because it seems like
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: it happens all the time in all different ways. We
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: see it throughout every episode in the flashbacks. Everybody's getting
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: ripped on. Everybody's getting annoyed with each other. Now, Lauren,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: last week, and I forget who it was. You mentioned
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: to me that I'm going to meet somebody, and I
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: believe it was Dorinda. And you said she's going to
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: drive you crazy. Was it Dorinda or who was that
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: that you guys were bringing up to me that would
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: drive me crazy?
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: You know, I think it was Ramona who we didn't
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: actually get to see.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I never got to meet her. I'll have
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: to go back and watch clips. You're right. It was
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: somebody that you were excited that I could potentially meet
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: in New York City and be familiar with. And we
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: did not get to see Ramona. Seems like a big loss.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Was her name even brought up, though?
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: No, like, I don't think she wants anything to do
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: with Housewives, maybe. Or she's like, I'm not getting paid enough,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: so don't even mention my name. They showed her on
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: the runway with her, like, crazy eyes.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: And they said.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, she looks like an alien invaded her body.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: She looks like an alien invaded her body. Yeah, exactly.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: So that's Ramona.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: You never got to meet her. You would have lost
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: your mind. But unfortunately, you'll keep your mind this week.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Lauren. I would like that. That'd be good for me.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Before we move on to the Halloween party, just a
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: side note, a personal opinion. I didn't know a lot
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: going into the Ultimate Girls trip. It's been a great
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: ride for you and I here. I just didn't know
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: a lot. And I have a friend. I won't mention
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: his name or give too many details. It's a social
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: media friend. Somebody who has really paved the way in
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: their own space at a young age. And he always
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: talked about how I think it's his aunt is Kyle
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Richards and how great Kyle was to him. And I've
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: always known of her basically from that. I didn't really
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: know who she was before that. Watching this, I really
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: have enjoyed watching Kyle. We've seen the emotion. We've seen
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: the leadership. We've seen her ability to navigate other people
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: fighting and just kind of shut it down and say, stop,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: this is stupid. Mm-hmm. She is in the Housewives franchise
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: watching this. She has the attributes of such an incredible leader.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: And I've enjoyed her. I think she not only can
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: bring some of the spark and funkiness and she's beautiful.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: So she has that going for her. I've just also
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: enjoyed her demeanor and the way she walks through life.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: And so I don't know if that's a common thought.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a controversial thought.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: She's your gal.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, she is unproblematic, is what I would say. Unproblematic,
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: friends with everyone, a good mediator. But I've heard recently
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: that people are getting tired of her because she's too
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: aware of the cameras. And she's almost too polished to
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: be a housewife. She's not very messy. That's why you
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: like her. Yeah. But I mean, she is a good
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: person to have in between all these crazies.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So people would, their criticism would be that she's
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: like too dull. And I would say, no, that's like, that's,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I respect that. Or I appreciate that. You need that.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: She keeps sanity here, but the housewives fandom is going, no,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: we want messy. We want the fights.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah. That's why we like when Kathy Hilton is there too,
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: which is her sister, which is so weird.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I'll never get over that.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Um, because Kathy has zero filter. And so when they're
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: playing off of each other, it's good. But, um, yeah,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: she's a little bit dull for everyone.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, we do see, we'll go into the Halloween party. Uh,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Luanne is hosting this Halloween party. She's pretty excited about it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: She has, um, all sorts of things lined up like
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: a magician. Um, and a, uh, what do you call
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: those people that like can predict what you're thinking? Mentalist. Yeah.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: She's a magician and a mentalist showing up to this.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: She's very pumped for it. Everybody does kind of show
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: up in a big way. I think these costumes are
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: better than most that we've seen through this girls trip.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: People seem to have tried hard. I don't know if
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: it's because of New York or if it's just because
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: of the cast that has been invited into this. Before
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: we kind of kick off the details of this party,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: we do see Kelly Ben Simone there. She did fill
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: in for you a week here, Lauren, and that was awesome.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: She helped me break down the Ultimate Girl Strip and
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: did hint at the time that we might potentially see her.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: We did. But before we talk about the details of
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: this party, there are a lot of randoms here. And
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: that's one thing we haven't necessarily seen at a party
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: throne yet is the fans being also invited in. You
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: think that's a Luann move?
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: My theory, I was like, my theory is that Luann
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: needs her fans surrounding her and pumping her up. um
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: that that's just classic um i think she probably just
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: wants as many people talking about her as possible yeah.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I mean there's like the page six podcast hosts are
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: there she she uses this as an opportunity to continue
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: to solidify her presence in new york city uh is
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: my assumption right.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: But the other girls did not seem amused by it
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: because I guess there was enough people to fill a
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: room from the other cities, but they had to have
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: fans and podcasters come to this one, which I don't
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: think it's a great look.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: No, I'm with you. It's not a good look, Lauren,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: but it is strategically creative. And I think there is
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: a brilliance to Luanne continuing to take opportunities like this moment.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: To say, hey, I want you to know not only
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: do I still live here, I'm still a big deal here.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to invite all of you fans in
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: so that when you happen to see me on the
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: streets in the next couple years of my life, you
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: still stop and say hello because you remember that I
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: invited you to this party.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, you are so right. That's exactly what it is.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So she got her own, which I think is
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: a characteristic of Luann that I'm learning is she just
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: wants to get her own if it's with her boyfriend
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: or if it's with. her moment of singing, or if
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: it's with the party that the housewives are throwing, she
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: just wants it to be hers. And this is a
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: way to do it. The costumes are fantastic. We see
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: hockey players wearing, to a Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman costume.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: That was a good one. Everybody, I think, looks great.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: That's one takeaway from this. The start of this party,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: one of the controversial topics is that, and I don't
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: know her name right now.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Describe.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Is she redid a costume that she wore on the
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: show because it was iconic. It was the bubble Lady
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Gaga costume.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, Dorinda was Lady Gaga.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Dorinda comes in as Lady Gaga. She says
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: it's iconic. She gets criticism for it because she repeated
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: an outfit.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I know that's a thing. I mean, obviously, I have
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: a wife, so I'm familiar that repeating outfits is not
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: like a common occurrence, especially when it comes to fancier outfits.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, goodness, she wears the same t-shirt to bed
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: it feels like every night of her life, but When
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: it comes to a dress, it's a little different, I guess.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Since it is directly correlated to a Housewives episode, and
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: this whole trip is about memories from reliving Housewives episodes,
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: then it's definitely acceptable to be an alpha repeater in
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: this case.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and also, maybe, I think my Midwest is showing.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: But I look at this, and I'm learning a lot
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: in life, but If every time I was asked to
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: come to a party, I don't get asked to go
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: to a lot of parties. My friends aren't throwing big
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: shindigs anymore.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I keep buying things. I got nowhere to go.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's expensive.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're like if I'm going to your party
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: and I know that I'm wearing something that cost me
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: an extra 200 bucks, like that's going to stress me out.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: More than the idea that, hey, I have this outfit
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: at home, my Tigger outfit that I've had since college
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: that works perfectly for Halloween. Everybody comments that it looks good.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I think it looks great. It's a full body suit.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I spent 25 bucks on it at the thrift store
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: back in college and it still works today. I think
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: that's cooler. then you showing up every time with a
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: new outfit.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: That's that is your Midwest. And that is your male
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: coming out for sure.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Especially with these ladies, like you can't be doing that
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: around them. Even with Ashley from like last season, like
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: she would wear the same shoes basically.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: And it'd be like, you wore those last week. Let's
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: step it up.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: So shoes are, should be able to go with multiple outfits.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Is it like a laziness thing? What is it? Like
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: they're saying you're just not trying.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Like you're just not like, like you, that's all you
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: have to give. Like you got to give us more,
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: you know?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: So it's just, it's, it's any other circumstance. I understand
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: why the ladies would be pissed about it. Not pissed,
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: judgy about an alpha repeater, but you have this costume.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: It's very cool. You're never going to wear it again
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: unless you're on a housewife reunion tour.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: And here we are.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: So no judgment for Dorinda.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: No, I like Dorinda's style. Good for you, Dorinda. You
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: are thrifty.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: And for that, I give you a checkmark. I like
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: the way you operate.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: What made you sad in the Halloween episode, though? In
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: the Halloween section?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Thank you for asking me that because I would have forgotten. Yeah.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: It made me sad because for all of the things
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: that annoy me about Luanne, Lauren, I'm going to go
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: on a soapbox here. For all the things that have
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: annoyed me about Luann, I do think you see signs
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: that she just wants to be seen. She just wants
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: to be known. She has this desire for others to
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: respect her or to appreciate her or to see that, hey,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: when Luann's around, yes, it's going to be a little goofy. Yes,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: she's going to be singing a lot. It's probably going
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: to be more annoying than we like. But the time
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: is going to be had. She elevates the environment in
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: the room. And I don't have that quality. I like
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: to be in rooms. I like to sit in spaces.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: But I can't always elevate the environment or the vibe.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: And I think Luanne does that. Either through making a
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: fool of herself, which she definitely does. Or through just
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: being controversial, which she definitely does. I think if I'm...
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: taking leaps and bounds to try to understand each one
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: of these women. I think I look at Louie and
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I say, you just want to be appreciated for who
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: you are. So she throws this party. And I think
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: her inviting fans speaks to her desire to be seen
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: and known. She needs that fame to fulfill this void
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: in her heart that exists and this void in her
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: soul that exists as she's getting older. At some point,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: you kind of have this second chapter of life where
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: you start to settle into a piece of, hey, my
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: purpose here on earth is different than it was when
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I was 30, 40. So she throws this party and
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: it just doesn't feel like the party lands, you know,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: people are showing up late. Uh, people are, you know, are,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: are complaining about the food, lack of food. It kind
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: of just seems like people went into it going, this
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: is Luanne's party and I have to be here because
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: the show is making me. And that makes me sad
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: for her. Yeah.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, we see that next week of the little
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: cliffhanger that Porsche, well, she yells at Porsche for being
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: late to her party and, And then Luanne actually gets upset. Like,
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: we see tears from Luanne because she just feels underappreciated.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: And again, she just wants to be seen. And I
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: would love to know about her childhood, honestly, and why
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: she always has to put on a show and perform.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's... This is where I take this to a
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: place that no listener wants because like you said, when
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: you watch Real Housewives, you want the real, you want
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: the messy, you want the relatability or the ability to
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: sit there and be like, hey, at least I'm not
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: that crazy. And that's why these shows typically don't work
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: for me and why me hosting a podcast about them
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: sometimes misses the mark. I understand that. But at the
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: end of the day, I've been around, name drop, all
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: these reality television celebrities.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: And so many of them are great. All of them
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: are great in their own way. But the one thing
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: that always makes me hurt is when it feels like
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: your moment on reality television has become the identity to
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: which you operate in the world. And it always fails
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: you at some point at all. And some have a
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: long lifespan in it and they can run this race
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: for as long as they can remember. Um, But at
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: some point it does end and then you look back
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: and go, what was it all for? And so I
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: just want Luann to know when she steps out of
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: this world, that time is coming. Let's be honest. It's
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: not like, you know.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: How many girl reunions can she do? She does cabarets.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know who's going to keep going to buy
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: the cabaret tickets. That's why you got to do maybe
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: a Bethany Frankel diversify thing. and come up with something
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: that's going to make you some kind of passive income.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: So Luann, go live on a beach and flirt with
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: every cabana boy you can find. And there doesn't have
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: to be cameras for it.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Do it. Go for it. But that's my take. That's
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: what made me sad. But this is, we do have
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: another episode of the ultimate girl strip that Lauren and
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I will be breaking down there. It looks like they're
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: going to stay in New York city for the next week.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: So we get to see more of New York city.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: which is such a fun place for these women to
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: operate in and to live within. And there's so many
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: fans for the Housewives there in New York City. A
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: good episode. I felt like I followed it. You know,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: my shtick here, I was just at MomCon this last week.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Great conference for mothers across the country, the world really,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: coming together. 4,000 moms in one room. I was able
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: to host that. That was fun. And I was asked
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: about this show specifically multiple times. Really? And they said,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: how in the world are you hosting a show about
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: the housewives? And I said, I think my shtick with
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: you and your sister is this. I am unaware and unfamiliar.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I'm the out-of-touch dad that is just trying to catch
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: up and be relatable in life to the people around him.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: And then I have incredible co-hosts. that navigate the journey.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: And this week, I feel like I'm a part of
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: it now.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: You almost know more than me at this point. Yeah,
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: I feel like you're really catching on. Sometimes things go
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: over my head, but you catch them. You're probably going
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: to end up teaching me at the end of this.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what? At this age, Ben.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: I think we're done. Like, I feel like everyone's going
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: to teach us everything. Like I don't understand clothes anymore.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Like I don't understand these trends. I don't like I'm
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: the person now that's like, I don't want to learn
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: anything new. I have my apps that I know and
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: I'm not learning anything new. So unfortunately we're going to
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: bring someone younger and maybe next season to keep us up.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Just it's tiring staying, staying involved.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: And then you give up and that's it.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Your golf shirts and your shorts and you're good
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: to go.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Actually, right now, Lauren, I am rocking two pieces of
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: clothing that I've had since high school. So amazing. And
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: a new hat that was given to me by our producer, Heather,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: for my birthday this year. So thank you, Heather, for
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: making my wardrobe a little newer and a little fresher.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Speaking of newer and fresher, we have more content coming
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: your way here at the Almost Famous Podcast. Some incredible interviews,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: let me tell you, like this week. We have a
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: lineup of interviews with past contestants that are making headlines.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Those are going to be awesome. Ashley is going to
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: be joining us for those. And then next week, we'll
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: be back here breaking down the next episode of the
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Ultimate Girls Trip. If you have some free time in
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: your drives this week, we also are having... Trista and
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Deanna break down every episode of Dancing with the Stars.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: And then you can see some other cool content sprinkled
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: into the feed. We love having you. We love breaking
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: this down. And until next time, I've been Ben.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I've been Lauren. And vote for Taylor Hanson on Dancing
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: with the Stars.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Let's go.