Latest / Reality TV Cringe / 87: Sister Wives - A Deal With The Devil (S18E4)
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- 0:02Hi Raccoon. Hi, Welcome to Reality TV Cringe, where we served by
- 0:15ball a trash that is fit to eat. Yes, girl, we're here
- 0:19to talk about Sister Wive is this season eighteen, episode four. We just
- 0:25reacted to it. If you want to see the reaction and us essentially losing
- 0:30our minds because Cody Brown is an it is an asshole, all you have
- 0:34to do is go to Patreon dot com slash Reality TV Cringe. We'll talk
- 0:39a little bit more about that. But we watched it together just now,
- 0:43Yes, we did, and then I did a little slothing online to look
- 0:46a couple of things up because I was I had my questions. Yeah,
- 0:51and I can't wait to get started. Before we do, we just want
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- 1:33come and join us at the dumpster. Let's also talk a little bit about
- 1:37next week's schedule. Yes, for those of you listening, because Beatrice is
- 1:42leaving us, I'm going on vacation. So rude, who do you think
- 1:47you are? A raccoon? I have alt hour job. You went to
- 1:53Finland last year in the middle of season seventeen. Whatever, girl, So
- 1:57you're gonna be gone for like a week or whatever. The week. We're
- 2:00gonna be here on Wednesday slash Thursday to talk about platfil of this week.
- 2:04We're going to be here next week Monday slash Tuesday to talk about Sister Wives.
- 2:07But then she's beating it to Colorado where she's to get high and have
- 2:12a lot of lesbian six. Oh yeah, you guys have a lot of
- 2:15says. Oh, I hope you have a lot of labies. Crazy.
- 2:19I'm gonna be gone next week Wednesday Thursday, and also next week the week
- 2:23after that for Sister Wives. Yeah, for the Monday. But I'll be
- 2:27back on that following Wednesday, and we're gonna do Sister Wives pod and we're
- 2:30gonna do a Platfield Double pod. Yes, so we'll call. We'll get
- 2:34caught up, you know, catch up. We are so consistent. Yeah,
- 2:38it is our priority to be here with you. But every now and
- 2:40again, Beatrice has to have a wild week. I want that for you,
- 2:50girl, have fun crazy. Okay, So let's get into a Sister
- 2:53Wives season eighteen, episode four A deal with the Devil double. Before we
- 3:00talk about the particlers of this episode, I have a question for you.
- 3:05Okay. That question is, are the producers trying to run some interference for
- 3:12Cody, trying to do a big PR thing for Cody and Robin. Do
- 3:15you think they're trying to help Cody and Robin with all the footage that we're
- 3:19seeing in their house and at holidays, or do you think that they are
- 3:22shading Cody and Robin. Oh, I think they're shading them for the most
- 3:25part. I think the only PR stuff that we're seeing is probably by Cody
- 3:30and Robin's design. Like with Cody's friend Nathan, Like I think he was
- 3:32only on there because Cody wanted him to be on there, yes, and
- 3:36wanted him to kind of back him up as a divorced polygamist man. Right,
- 3:39But that's it. I think TLC knows what they're doing, Okay.
- 3:43I think there was so much footage this time of Robin and Cody and Crapes
- 3:49and Hari and Saul and God bless him, they're just kids. Bow Carola.
- 3:53No, I do not want to see anything about their family. I
- 3:58want to see the down of all of the families. I want it to
- 4:02be pointed, I want it to be directed. And I'm like, are
- 4:04the producers actually believing this bullshit? I think it's probably just filler because they
- 4:12got to save all the juicy stuff. I mean, they have like what
- 4:15like six or seven more episodes at least full of an hour that they have
- 4:18to fucking fill. So of course they're going to have Crape stuff in there,
- 4:23and they're gonna have orient Saul in there, which nobody needs. Like
- 4:26it's just filler. It was just infuriating, and like, get to the
- 4:30point, more about Gay, more about Garrison, more about Janelle and Christine
- 4:33and the issues at hand. That's what we care about. I don't care
- 4:36about his fucking burrito crape. You know. The other thing I wanted to
- 4:41ask you was based on something I was watching on the YouTube channel Red Lipstick
- 4:46Reality TV. She made this observation about how Leon and Gwen are nowhere to
- 4:55be found during the holidays, and she was like, it's just sitting on
- 4:59my spirit. Yeah, it's kind of hurting my feelings that the LGDT LGBTQ
- 5:04two plus I A. Sorry, I'm old, but like the gay kids,
- 5:09that the trans kids are not actually anywhere to be found. Because there
- 5:13was something that came out from Without a Crystal Ball recently in which she talked
- 5:19about how Cody and Robin are currently attempting to get back into the good graces
- 5:26of their church. Huh, and that one of the things that they're doing
- 5:30in order to get back into the good graces is they are declaring that they
- 5:33are against lgbt Q. I A. Wow. They're taking a very strong
- 5:38position that they don't believe in it, they think it's wrong. Maybe that's
- 5:42why they don't want Gwen around and Leon and I'm just like, can that
- 5:46possibly be? But why wouldn't Gwen be hanging out with her mom? Though
- 5:51Gwen is in Flagstaff, right is she? Well, I think at the
- 5:55time of this footage Christmas twenty twenty one, I think Gwen is in Flagstaff,
- 6:00but maybe she didn't go because Peyton was there. Maybe because of Peyton,
- 6:03which is stupid, I mean, but whatever, if you have family
- 6:06feuds, like I get it, but it's like I'm the kind of person
- 6:10that I'm like, well, but it's Christmas though, Yeah, I don't
- 6:12know, maybe can change. I don't think Christine has any problem. No,
- 6:16I don't think Mary has any problem. I think if anybody has a
- 6:18problem. And then there have been articles that have been coming out that Robin
- 6:23and Cody don't believe in Leon's transition. So I just I'm wondering why the
- 6:30gay kids and the trans kids aren't there for the holiday. It makes me
- 6:32really sad. It makes me really sad too, but it probably is because
- 6:35of Cody and Robin then, which is fucked up. It's really fucked up.
- 6:40God, that makes me hate them even more. They're so hateable.
- 6:43Okay, let's get into this episode. We start kind of where we left
- 6:47off last week. Janelle and Cody have just had this big ass fight.
- 6:53We've got Janelle filming herself really close to her face. I know, I'm
- 6:57like, why you need to have the phone, like the great one of
- 7:00those little selfie sticks, this little distance would be. But she is talking
- 7:05about how she is shit out of luck. She's fifty years old. She
- 7:12can't believe that she was so stupid to not set aside a nest egg for
- 7:16herself or make sure that she would be taken care of. That she totally
- 7:20bought in hook line and sink her. Yeah, everything Cody ever said about
- 7:25what they were doing as a family and now here she has absolutely nothing,
- 7:30and she's crying. She's also talking about how Cody has been mean and it
- 7:34wasn't just this sit down argument that they had last week, but apparently he
- 7:40had a conversation with her before, like a few days before. He was
- 7:44in his car and he was demanding that she choose between him and her kids,
- 7:49and she's like, I don't know who this guy is so fucking wild.
- 7:54And we thought about this last season. We talked about what Janelle's last
- 7:58straw would be, and we knew, like the fake psychics that we are,
- 8:03that it would be her kids, Yes, and it was for Kenny
- 8:05mother, it would be yes, and because to hear her say that he
- 8:09asked her to choose between him and her kids is fucking bonkers to me.
- 8:13It's nuts. I just don't get like the amount of delusion that Cody Brown
- 8:18has and his fucking mind right now to even think that that would be a
- 8:22question he could ask Janelle out of all of them, Like Janelle has always
- 8:26been, her kids are her life, right or die for her kids.
- 8:28Same with Chris, Christine and Jerry. But like Janelle has always been,
- 8:33it's always her. He's asking that question in particular. He's giving her that
- 8:37ultimatum in particular because he knows how she will choose right and she will choose
- 8:41her children, And that gives him the out that he's really looking for.
- 8:46Because later in this episode, when he's talking to Nathan, the expert on
- 8:50plagamy, he talks about how he's actually relieved every time a wife leaves.
- 8:54Yeah, because he's been pulling this scam over on them, say that they're
- 9:00not loyal, that they're not sticking up for him, they're not following it's
- 9:03COVID rules yea, and making it really effing hard for them to be in
- 9:07a relationship with him. By the time they actually leave, He's like,
- 9:09finally, God, that took a long time. Why didn't she leave sooner?
- 9:13I'm relieved that you're gone, so fucking wild. But then in the
- 9:16same breath is like, I never wanted this. I fought for my family
- 9:20to be together. I fought for all of this. No, you didn't,
- 9:22dude, You've been waiting for this to happen. And even Janelle says
- 9:26in this little filmed up zoom thing, She's like, I feel like he's
- 9:30just saying all of this stuff just to push me away. And it's true.
- 9:33It's absolutely true, and it's really sad, and it's really obvious.
- 9:39And I'm still so flabbergasted, Beatrice that they think that they are pulling one
- 9:45over us, like that we're actually buying everything that they're saying about how Janelle's
- 9:50not loyal. She is the most loyal wife that he's ever had, fluting
- 9:54with Robin because Robin takes her opportunities to throw him under the bust. You
- 10:00know who really never did, though, was Janelle Ye. Janelle's always backed
- 10:03him up. With Janelle now speaking out about Cody having favorites, how he's
- 10:09making these demands, giving her these ultimatums. I find her to be very
- 10:15trustworthy because she wouldn't be saying it unless it was true. She had his
- 10:20back forever, yep. And then he fucking crossed the line when he pitted
- 10:24her against her and her kids. Like, that's just so crazy, dude.
- 10:28And he did it on purpose because he's like, just leave now he
- 10:31can say, Oh, Janelle's wanting to leave. It's like you pushed her
- 10:35away. You pushed her away at every fucking opportunity, and you fucking financially
- 10:39neglected her. And so now she's fifty and crying about it on national television.
- 10:45Rightfully, so because she has nothing to her name when last episode you
- 10:48were just saying she's got the same assets as everybody else. Remember called him
- 10:54a coward? Yeah, this is him being a coward, totally not owning
- 10:58the fact that he wants to get out out of these relationships that he would
- 11:01prefer to be monogamous, not just calling a thing a thing and telling these
- 11:05wives the truth, instead stringing them along and abusing them emotionally and financially.
- 11:11This is abuse. What's happening to Janelle? Yes, this is the coward's
- 11:13way out, That's exactly what he is. He's a freaking coward, fucking
- 11:18coward, and an asshole. Totally. From there, we go to Salt
- 11:22Lake City. We see Christine. She's hanging out with her kids. Yeah,
- 11:28it's a really wonderful time. She says, I'm just really happy that
- 11:31I don't have to be over there in Flagstaff having a family Christmas with Cody
- 11:35Robin and their kids. That was kind of big. She's like, I'm
- 11:39kind of glad that we're doing Christmas separate this year. I'm like, dang,
- 11:41really yeah, but she just couldn't be happier and I'm living for it.
- 11:46Yeah. And it's like when they sat down at saltsa Brava and Cody
- 11:50said something like, she's just trying to pretend that she's living her best life.
- 11:54Now she's still pretending, and this footage from this holiday shows that she's
- 11:58so much better off. Yeah, and she was when she was with you.
- 12:03Then we bounce over to Robin in Cody's place. It's Christmas Eve and
- 12:07Mary has brought some lasagna dish and I'm thinking to myself And we talked about
- 12:11this in the reaction again patrion dot com if you want to watch it,
- 12:13I'm thinking to myself, last week, wasn't Mary talking about how she hosts
- 12:20Christmas Eve? Wasn't she asking the question, well, should I invite Janelle?
- 12:24Should I invite all the kids? Everybody at the Airbnb in my place?
- 12:28And Robin said, so, I'm too scary story, it's no safe
- 12:31spaces for my kids. And so Mary then decided not to invite them,
- 12:37and then the next thing we know, she doesn't even get to have Christmas
- 12:39Eve at her house. We're at Robin in Cody's and Mary is there again,
- 12:45third wheel in it, design piece in it. And it's sad.
- 12:48It's so fucking sad and so fucking awkward because even Cody and Robin are like,
- 12:52we have to tone down a romantic tension between us, come on for
- 12:56Mary's sake, And it's just like a it's a lot on us. So
- 13:01what would it look like if they weren't toning down thereon? Would you just
- 13:05be dry humping next to the Christmas tree in front of all your kids?
- 13:07I mean, you guys are in your forties and your fifties, you've been
- 13:11married for over a decade. Kind of romantic mother FFing tension? Are you
- 13:13talking about? You disgusting person. I can't stand damn, I can't stand
- 13:20in poor Mary. And Mary's like, yeah, they really don't do a
- 13:22good job. No, they don't hiding their affection for each other. Well,
- 13:26she says yeah in regards to Cody. She's like, I can tell
- 13:30with Cody because Robin's like, I'm trying to be really considerable of Mary and
- 13:33her feelings, so I'm really trying to like be conscious and not show a
- 13:37lot of affection. But Mary's like, no, I see it. It's
- 13:39fine. But Mary's also feeling terrible because it's not like she has her kid
- 13:45there. She doesn't have any of the og kids. You know. I
- 13:48don't mean to say that in a mean way, because yes, you do.
- 13:50Robin's kids are technically, but they're not. They don't want to be
- 13:56a part of the other families. They don't care to be a part of
- 13:58the other family. And they're all just on their their fucking phones and like
- 14:01not actually interacting, and Mary's just in the background with her fucking weird lasagna
- 14:05with bowtie noodles. It's just so fucking sad. And then we get to
- 14:11the Dickens Village. Oh, the Charles Dickens Village. Yeah, which apparently
- 14:16Cody really likes a Christmas Carol the story by Charles Dickens by Charles Dickens.
- 14:20Is it Charles Dickens. I don't know. I think it's Charles Dickens,
- 14:22right, am I getting that wrong? I would be really stupid if I
- 14:26got there right. I think it's Charles Dickens. But anyway, after we
- 14:28reacted, I took a moment to look up how much each piece in a
- 14:33Dickens or a Dickensian village. It's at the very lowest, it's like seventy
- 14:39nine dollars per peace, and on average it's like one seventy five to over
- 14:43two hundred dollars for just one of the structures. And she had an entire
- 14:48island filled of the Dickens village, and then she had some of the Dickens
- 14:52Village in the background too, with those paintings that that TikTok girl talked about
- 14:56last week. But I posted on ig and all of her figuring she's got
- 15:01so many Dickensian Village pieces, She's got thousands of dollars into the Dickens village.
- 15:07Wow, that's ridiculous. Maybe that's why she doesn't want people in her
- 15:11house because she's got all these nice fucking things. Meanwhile, Janelle is it
- 15:16her dorm room apartment, making fucking lasagna, really crappy looking lasagna, kitchen
- 15:22pasta, sauce from a bottle. I was making lasania this weekend, and
- 15:26I worked for like two or three hours to make my lasagna. Didn't get
- 15:28an I have some for you right now if you would like some, But
- 15:31you say it always makes you poop. No, I mean yeah, but
- 15:35you can have as much as you want. But I did. It was
- 15:37a pitiful lasagna for those of us who make lasagna. I felt really bad
- 15:41because Gabe was with her helping, and he's just encouraging her. And she
- 15:43doesn't like to cook anywhere. Now she's doing her very best with what little
- 15:48she has to put together a nice Christmas for her family. Meanwhile, over
- 15:52at the McMansion they have a fucking feast. And if you haven't seen that
- 15:56TikTok, I know you put it up on our Instagram. Yes, that
- 16:00chick who was talking about the value of the paintings just in the hallway that
- 16:04they show yes on the show, like many, many thousands of dollars worth
- 16:10of art in that little hallway. You gotta go watch it, oh for
- 16:12sure. And we don't know if they're prints of these artists paintings or they're
- 16:18if they're original, But regardless if they're prints or they're original, they're still
- 16:22fucking expensive. And she's got them all over fucking house. And I'm sure
- 16:26she's got a bunch in their bedroom and all the bedroom And remember those angel
- 16:30wing amethists, huge tower of amethists. That's like thousands of dollars just for
- 16:36that. So, like the amount of money that they have in this house
- 16:38is probably why she doesn't want the cameras in there, because when you get
- 16:44a sense of the disparity between how they're living and when we get to Christmas,
- 16:48it's even crazier. Girls, Steven and I also look that shit up
- 16:51too. The disparity between how they're living and how Janelle is living is crazy.
- 16:59It's sad, And I'm like, do you guys not even understand the
- 17:03kind of spectacle that you're making and how this is going to come across to
- 17:07the rest of the family. No, they don't. Maybe that's why there's
- 17:10all those boxes at the bottom level of the house. Maybe it's all of
- 17:14her other nice things that she's fucking packing up and hiding. Maybe she's not
- 17:18actually a horder, Maybe she's just hiding all of her wealth that she's stolen
- 17:22from all of the wives. So sad, it's pathetic, So sad.
- 17:26Okay, So in the next segment, it's actually Christmas Day, we have
- 17:30Mary driving over to Cody and Robin's and saying something like her and Robin are
- 17:37the only two people trying to keep the family together. Meanwhile, across town,
- 17:42the families are meeting in the Airbnb and having very Christmas and they're trying
- 17:45to keep it together. But Mary, what are you thinking? What are
- 17:48you thinking? She's like, I don't know what is going on in her
- 17:52mind, Like maybe she's thinking that by being buddy buddy with Robin that maybe
- 17:56she'll get into some kind of good graces with Cody. I don't know.
- 18:00But it's like really crazy because it's like, how can't you not see the
- 18:04mistreatment of Christine and Janelle and the reasons why they left, and then say,
- 18:10oh, it's only you and Robin who are trying to keep the family
- 18:11together. I don't know with what family Robin's family. I don't know,
- 18:15it's wild. I just don't understand. Janelle is spending the day with her
- 18:21kids at the ARABNB. It's a very quiet Christmas. She's giving them gift
- 18:25cards. I'm sure she wanted as much as she can afford to give them,
- 18:30But they are saying that it's actually a really pleasant and joyful Christmas,
- 18:33And even the kids are saying, yeah, I was kind of expecting it
- 18:37to be pretty sad because we've fallen out with our father and our other family.
- 18:41But as it turns out, it was pretty great just us. That
- 18:44speaks a lot, That speaks volumes to how it actually feels to be around
- 18:48Cody and Robin and their energy and how shitty they actually are. And I
- 18:53don't know if it was Christine or if it was Janelle, but one of
- 18:56them actually said that, you know, he was on for so long,
- 19:00and I actually realized that that was okay. Yeah, actually I'm kind of
- 19:03relieved when he's not around. Actually, my family gets on better when he's
- 19:07not here. So now this is kind of a moment that crystallizes it for
- 19:11the children too, like, yeah, I don't need my dad to be
- 19:14here. Yeah, I don't need Robin and Oliver weird zombie children over here
- 19:18to feel good about Christmas. It's actually pretty nice. That's pretty crazy.
- 19:22Was it Janelle that said that? Maybe it was Janelle, I can't remember.
- 19:23I think both Christine and Janelle have shared a sentiment like that. I
- 19:27don't recall who it was exactly though. Meanwhile, over at Robin and Cody's
- 19:32house, Mary is just kind of in the background when the kid wheeling up
- 19:36to come out and have a look at their presence, like, what did
- 19:40you think of this? Their big surprise? So apparently Cody bought the three
- 19:45kids so Aurora, Day and Banna Brianna. I guess they bought them all
- 19:52motorized bikes, yes, with helmets, yes? And how much were those?
- 19:56I know you looked I did. I looked it up, and of
- 19:56course Reddit is totally sleuthing. Their called Coleman something and the base price for
- 20:03one of them is eight hundred and fifty or nine hundred dollars, so he's
- 20:07in each, So he's in at least twenty five hundred dollars for just those
- 20:12three electric bikes or motorbikes or whatever they are. Not to mention the mounds
- 20:18of Christmas presents under the tree. Wow. Yeah, so twenty five to
- 20:22twenty seven hundred dollars wow in motorbikes. But he said they weren't that expensive.
- 20:29They weren't even because he's a liar, he's a chronic liar. What
- 20:32a piece of shell. Maybe they're not expensive to you if you're accustomed to
- 20:36having ten thousand dollars paintings. I get five thousand dollars amethist towers. Maybe
- 20:40it's nothing to you in a whole five thousand dollars Dickensian village, twenty five
- 20:44hundred dollars in a lot of money. And then juxtaposed that with again Gabe
- 20:48and Garrison and Savannah and Hunter getting gift cards from Janelle because she can't afford
- 20:52anything. And did he send any presents over to the family. He did
- 20:57not. He didn't even ten text them. He didn't text Savanna. He
- 21:02didn't even text Savanna. He didn't text anybody like he didn't even reach out
- 21:06to Janelle, Christine, no of their kids, like nobody. He hasn't
- 21:08reached out to anybody but Robin and her kids. But then he buys them
- 21:11twenty five hundred dollars worth of motorized bikes, plus that mound of fucking presence
- 21:17that they had behind the tree as well. I can't even believe the audacity.
- 21:21And for him to even say, while doing all of this, this
- 21:23big old grand gesture, for him to say that he doesn't have favorites and
- 21:27that the kids are liars I know, and that they actually aren't reaching out
- 21:33back to me. It's all their faults, everybody else's fault with me.
- 21:36It's like, whoa dude, he really doesn't care about his other No,
- 21:40he doesn't. It's sad. I mean, I'm a parent, so I
- 21:41honestly, and I'm a healthy person, and I have an emotional intelligence,
- 21:47so I can't conceive of a world where I would ever want to hurt my
- 21:52children. Yeah, I mean obviously, as parents, we do hurt our
- 21:55kids, but then we make amends and we bring it back together when we
- 21:57make it healthy again. But like Cody knows, his kids in the other
- 22:03houses are going to see this footage, right, They're going to know that
- 22:07you sent nothing over for them for Christmas. Savannah, who is not even
- 22:11of age, she's a miner, doesn't even get a phone call. She's
- 22:14going to see this footage but he's sad. How are you not humble and
- 22:18modest? How are you not talking about how you miss your entire family?
- 22:21But instead he's celebrating lavishly. And this doesn't even take into consideration the gifts
- 22:25that you know he got for Robin over that are probably many thousands more than
- 22:30what he spent on those kids. That's probably ten thousand dollars Christmas. We
- 22:33are looking at dude, absolutely kicking. Mary got anything. No, no,
- 22:41she didn't get ship. She probably got like a coat from fucking Robin.
- 22:44Here's that coat for when you came over to my house and I had
- 22:47to keep you outside because I refused to bring the cameras in. It's so
- 22:51fucking wild, sad, And maybe this is kind of the moment where Mary
- 22:56starts to really, in an embodied way, understand, Oh, these people
- 23:00don't give a crap. They don't give a crap about me. They don't
- 23:03give a crap about the other kids in this family that I absolutely love.
- 23:07They don't give a crap about my sister wives. These people only care about
- 23:11themselves. I hope it's a wake up call for her. But Robin says,
- 23:15these mountain bikes are these whatever? She says, this is a way
- 23:18for Cody to compensate for the loss he's feeling for his kids. Will make
- 23:21is that what you're going to try and spin it as that's what you're going
- 23:25to try and spit it as, not as I don't think this is appropriate
- 23:27because Cody's not talking or seeing any of his other children or his wives.
- 23:33I feel like it's going to send the wrong message. No, it's he's
- 23:34trying to clopency because he's broken hearted, right, because he's in so much
- 23:38pain because his kids have rejected him, but also rejected me and my kids.
- 23:41Yeah, Jesus, Mary and Joe's so crazy. Back at Janelle's Airbnb,
- 23:48Janelle informs us that she has told her children that she did get into
- 23:52a massive argument with her husband and that they're probably not going to recover from
- 23:59this. And this is where she says something like the kids kind of knew
- 24:03that this was coming, and they've been telling me for a while that I
- 24:06deserve better than the situation that I'm currently in. I'm like, yes,
- 24:10yes, now, yes, the kids have been seeing it for a lot
- 24:14longer than the wives have been seeing it, that's for fucking sure. Yeah,
- 24:18I mean I remember growing up in an abusive household and trying to talk
- 24:22to my mother as a teenager, as a young kid, even as an
- 24:26older person like early twenties, trying to talk my mother into getting out of
- 24:30the situation and taking care of herself. I did that for many, many
- 24:36years, and she never really listened. You've got to come to that choice
- 24:38on your own. It seems like Janelle is finally coming to this choice on
- 24:42her own, and her kids are probably like, fuck, finally get some
- 24:47self respect. Honestly, find yourself a cowboy, yes, ford caw girl,
- 24:51Yes, absolutely? All right. Next we get into oh no,
- 24:56no, do we want to talk about the crepes? Jesus Christ? Well,
- 25:00you know, crepes are not actually burritos. They're more fun. I
- 25:03didn't know that. Not Mexican. Most people don't know that. God,
- 25:07how dumb's segment? What did we need to see all of that? And
- 25:11let's also talk about Ari and Solomon on the couch like their kids. I'm
- 25:15not coming after kids. I'm just gonna say, with as much emotion as
- 25:21possible to you'll see if you're watching, I don't need to see Ari and
- 25:23Saul on the couch talking about their life I don't need to see Cody and
- 25:30Robin in their hoarder house making crepes and talking about how Cody likes his crepes
- 25:34and how Cody eats it like a brittle Nobody cares about this. We care
- 25:38about the ship that's happening behind the scenes in this family. Seriously, this
- 25:42is what I mean by like, this was a Cody and Robin produced moment,
- 25:47and even Ari and Saul were totally fucking scripted. Did you even catch
- 25:51that? Like they were so scripted and they were just trying to remember their
- 25:55lines. I'm like, this is so fucking dopid. I don't want to
- 25:57see these two little peanuts talk and a fucking language that doesn't make any fucking
- 26:03sense, like they're just blabbing about nothing. Because Robin's like, this is
- 26:07what you got to say when the camera's on you, This is what you
- 26:10got to say. This isn't want to say. I don't want TLC to
- 26:14think that any of us want this. No, I don't want it at
- 26:15all. I could care less about Cody and Robin. I only care about
- 26:21them as it concerns and intersects with what is happening with Mary. Yeah,
- 26:26Janelle and Christine. Yeah, their opinions, their actions, That's what I'm
- 26:29interested in. I am not interested in your phony, fucking brain dead family.
- 26:33Sorry, no offense their kids, but fucking all you all. She
- 26:37had a binky in her mouth. I know, let's talk about the binky
- 26:40in her mouth. All of these kids are strange. Solomon looks like a
- 26:44vampire child. Did you notice he wasn't even excited about the fucking bikes.
- 26:48He's just looking at the camera like horrified, like, what what's happening here?
- 26:52I don't understand. Mommy didn't give us permission to do that. I
- 26:55don't got to get hurt. Do I have a helmet? They're so afraid
- 26:57of life? Yes, But Ariella has a binky. She has a pacifier
- 27:03in her mouth, and at the time of this filming, I do believe
- 27:06she was five or six years old. It doesn't matter. I think if
- 27:10you're three, four, five, six two old and you've got a pacifier,
- 27:15there's something going on with the parenting of this child. In what world?
- 27:21Under what theory does Robin think this is okay? Because that pacifier can
- 27:23screw up her palette, her teeth, her speech. And if you notice
- 27:29she has a lisp. She has a pretty strong already. I think it's
- 27:32because of the binky. Oh is because of the binky. And we actually
- 27:34had a follower on Instagram? Can I pull it up? Sure? Sure?
- 27:37So we had a follower on Instagram named Cynthia. Hi Cynthia. She
- 27:42reached out and she said, oh my god, the binky is so bad
- 27:45for your teeth, by and airways. I'm a hygienist. But aside from
- 27:49that, how fucking weird. And she said that my hair dresser here,
- 27:53because she lives in Flagstaff as well. My hairdresser here does Christine's color and
- 27:57haircut when she comes to flag and she sees her, and I think Janelle's
- 28:03what she says, But Mary has never came back, so she thinks that
- 28:07maybe Mary moved or doesn't live in Flagstaff anymore. But she doesn't even go
- 28:11to the hairstylist anymore that Christine and Janelle went to. Did she go to
- 28:15any hairstylist? Do you remember that episode? She had the hair sticking straight
- 28:18out of her every episode it's like that. It's pretty bad, but that's
- 28:22very interesting. But it's bad for her airways too, Ariella, for her
- 28:26fucking binkie. Well, I of course immediately went on to Reddit and there's
- 28:29a lot of discussions about the passive fire, and people were saying that there's
- 28:33I guess rumors out there that Robin just can't handle when Ariella has a tantrum
- 28:38because she doesn't have her passive fire, my god, doesn't know how to
- 28:42handle it, and so she would prefer not to. She sleeps with it,
- 28:45she has it all the time, and now you're fucking up her palette,
- 28:48her airways, her teeth and her speech and sent and I mean,
- 28:52wouldn't you even think about how this is going to appear on national television?
- 28:56Even if you're letting your child have a pacifier at five or six years old,
- 29:00wouldn't you maybe take the pacifier out while you're being filmed and be on
- 29:04national television because moms across the world are going to have some shit to say
- 29:08about that, are going to comment about it. So now it's not your
- 29:11eyebrows, but now we're going to comment about how you pair it your children
- 29:14or lack thereofs. It's like, well, you don't want to deal with
- 29:17the tantrums, but what are you really dealing with? Don't you still have
- 29:21a nanny. Yeah, why can't you have the nanny deal with that?
- 29:23Right? Oh my goodness. All right, why don't we take a quick
- 29:27little break and then we have that lovely conversation to get into with Nathan and
- 29:33Cody. But let's take a break right now. We got to pay our
- 29:37bills. Well back on the other side to discuss the rest of sister wives.
- 29:42All right, we're back. We are now going to get into the
- 29:45conversation that Cody has with Nathan. This conversation, for these two men have
- 29:52all of the white male entitled audacity in the world. And look, I
- 29:57don't mean to I don't shouldn't have even said that, But I'm just like,
- 30:00I can't believe you two chumps sitting in this car talking about the women
- 30:07that you have lured into your fucking polygamist scheme. These women who consented somehow
- 30:11to fuck either of you. I mean, women who probably held jobs and
- 30:15contributed mightily to your financial bottom line, These women who were ultimately driven out
- 30:22of marriages to both of you men. I'm going to sit here and listen
- 30:26to you opine about how hard it is for a man in polygamy. Miss
- 30:30me with that bushit for real. I can't believe Nathan's even trying to say,
- 30:36like we should have compassion for Cody going through this divorce. It's really
- 30:40hard. It's really hard on polygamist mint. Shut the fuck up. Shut
- 30:44the fuck shut the fuck up. And this is where they get into the
- 30:48entire concept of sacred loneliness, of some kind of a pitiful justification of how
- 30:53women suffering in plural marriage or actually suffering for their faith. Yeah, the
- 31:00just tenant like you feel that loneliness, girl, And no, with each
- 31:03pang of loneliness that you feel, each tear drop that you should you're serving
- 31:07your God Jesus on colop and you're going to get your own planet one day.
- 31:12You're not going to be in charge on the planet, of course,
- 31:14that's me. Yeah, And there's gonna be other women there. You're never
- 31:17going to escape the fact that I'm banging other women because even in the afterlife,
- 31:21baby, i'm'll be banging these other women right in front of your course,
- 31:23but you'll be on the planet. Yeah, you'll have your own planet.
- 31:26Yeah. And if you leave me then you're going to be demoted.
- 31:29Yeah, you'll have a different planet. Or the wayward farther away from colap.
- 31:33Yes, the wayward wives have to go just the bullshit. It's such
- 31:37bullshit, the hoops that they have to try to jump through to justify,
- 31:41justify and excuse their behavior. Because I didn't hear Nathan who had two wives
- 31:48at one point and one of the wives ended up leaving him. I didn't
- 31:52hear him taking responsibility for the things that he might have done to cause his
- 31:56own divorce. No, I certainly didn't hear anything out of Cody Brown's goddamn
- 32:01mouth where he's taking responsibility other than him acknowledging how easy it is for men
- 32:07in plural marriage to dismiss the suffering of their wife. And then he gets
- 32:10into sacred loneliness, like literally right see into sacredlins. It's like, Okay,
- 32:15you're saying the right things, or what you think are the right things,
- 32:20to try and get us to believe your bullshit, Cody Brown. But
- 32:22we're not stupid. We know what you've been doing, and the fact that
- 32:28you are still trying to fabricate some bullshit excuse to justify your shitty behavior on
- 32:35national television is beyond me. I just can't cut to Christine, who's laughing,
- 32:40and she's like, sacred loneliness. What the fuck is sacred loneliness?
- 32:45What does that mean? Cutting to Mary who's been a Mormon and a polygamist
- 32:49for thirty some odd years, saying I have never heard of this particular doctrine.
- 32:53And then we have Janelle who seems to give it some legitimacy, saying
- 32:58that, yeah, it's essentially the idea that you're suffering, you know,
- 33:00helps you to be closer to God. And then we have Robin piping like
- 33:05so down to try. She's like, it is actually really difficult. I
- 33:09do actually experience loneliness as a wife of Cody Brown. And I'm like,
- 33:15you shut your dirty hormoup. Nobody asked you, Robin. You're gonna sit
- 33:20here and pretend that you're lonely in this relationship where from day one Cody is
- 33:24driving five hours one way to bang your back out while Christine is pregnant,
- 33:30heavy with pregnancy with her child. Truly, you're gonna try to act like
- 33:35you've been lonely when you know good and God damn well that Cody has favored
- 33:39you and spent inordinate amounts of time with you. Like again, miss me
- 33:45with this horshit lady, and do something about your eyebrows, I mean,
- 33:50really girl like. And so she's saying all of this before she's changed up
- 33:53her eyebrows, so she hasn't heard what people have said her. So she's
- 33:58still spinning this crap because she thinks that we're buying it. And I just
- 34:01can't wait. Like, if we have a tell all this season, we
- 34:05better have a fucking teller and it better be a good fucking teller. Don't
- 34:09give us a tell all. I swear to God, I'm going to go
- 34:13to protest this production company, which I think is somewhere I don't even know.
- 34:16I just can't I'm going to be so upset. I'm going to be
- 34:19so mad, pitchforks and everything. Lord, I'm gonna be so mad.
- 34:22Jesus. We also hear from Robin that she's been depressed. Yeah, it's
- 34:27really difficult because I don't really understand how all of these relationships have just imploded.
- 34:32And here I am in this family and it just doesn't feel safe anymore
- 34:36for my children. So I am clinically depressed, Okay, almost as if
- 34:39she's trying to come up with another excuse as to why her behavior is acceptable
- 34:46wild. Yeah, so she can look back and say, well, I
- 34:49was depressed. Nobody fucking feels bad for you. I'm sorry, Robin,
- 34:51like I probably would have felt for you a little bit if you actually came
- 34:54into this family with genuine good intentions. But you've always been the favorite.
- 35:00You've always wanted to be the favorite. You've always wanted to be the apple
- 35:02of Cody's eye. You called him your soulmate at the very like a beginning.
- 35:07It's on record, Yep, I would have believed you. But I
- 35:09have never believed you. I've never been on your side. You've always been
- 35:14playing this fucking game. He's always been wily, she's been crafty, and
- 35:16she's been manipulative. Yet we've been seeing it, bitch. So back to
- 35:22Nathan and Cody having this discussion, I like my eyes almost popped out of
- 35:28my whole head. I had fucking vein in my temple just protruding. My
- 35:32juggular was protruding. I was ready to get my ninja stars and my brass
- 35:37knuckles to fight Nathan when he said that polygamy is really about giving women choice.
- 35:43Yeah, so they can choose whatever man they want to bang their back
- 35:46out and give them kids, and she has to approach the man and ask,
- 35:52hey, can I join your family? And can you bang my back
- 35:54out? Would that be okay? It's not really up to the men as
- 35:58if it's the women behind this entire thing. Yeah, I'm like, you're
- 36:02saying that with your mouth, dude. A lot of polygamists say this,
- 36:06even on Seeking sister Wives, which isn't even about Mormon fundamentalism. It's like
- 36:09just people who want to be polygamists, Like the men always say it's the
- 36:15women that decide to be polygamy. Even Cody has said in the earlier seasons
- 36:20that Mary was the one that came up with the idea to be But well,
- 36:22what the fuck ever, I think it's all a crock of shit.
- 36:24It's all a manipulation game. That's why Cody thinks he's so good at this,
- 36:29and that he thinks that he can pull the wool over everybody's eyes.
- 36:30It's all manipulation. But these dudes are trying to be martyrs for polygamy as
- 36:36if they haven't benefited to the infantry, especially Cody Brown, with all of
- 36:39these women working except for fucking Robin, except for Robin, and all of
- 36:45these women giving their bodies and their homes and their children to him. Yeah,
- 36:49as if it was their choice to do this. No, this is
- 36:52a tenet of your religion. This is something that is an article of your
- 36:54faith that you believe, and they also believe this does not benefit women.
- 36:59And this is when Nathan, that big old Lummix, said something like,
- 37:02it takes a lot of Hubrists to judge Cody going through a divorce whatever.
- 37:07And I've got a lot of Hubrists, I guess. I guess that's what
- 37:10we have. That's what you call it. And didn't he say that when
- 37:14he was going through his divorce he would not have wanted it to be filmed
- 37:17either, Yes, because I would have looked terrible. And so I feel,
- 37:22you know, I hope people watching this can feel like they have some
- 37:24compassion for Cody. It's like, no, he's been an ass this whole
- 37:28entire time. It's not like we just now came to the revelation that Cody's
- 37:31been a dick. We've been seeing this first seventeen fucking seasons of how he's
- 37:36been treating the wives. So don't sit there and do this fucking pr stunt
- 37:39for Cody Brown acting like he's some fucking saint that's been wronged by fucking Christine
- 37:45and Janelle. You're not a friend to enable narcissistic, abusive behavior. That
- 37:50doesn't make you a better person, It doesn't make you a better Mormon.
- 37:52It makes you complicit in the abuse of these women and these children. And
- 37:57that's how I am looking at you, Nathan, ma'am. Now, this
- 38:00is what kind of sets up the conversation where Cody says that because Janelle and
- 38:07Christine asked to come into the relationship with Mary, that he had to give
- 38:15them special requirements, the first being they could only be with him, I
- 38:21think, the second being that he was going to have other women and that
- 38:23they were just going to have to get right about it period. But Robin
- 38:28was invited, which makes a special distinction. So maybe she doesn't have to
- 38:32be okay with him having other women, I guess. And Mary was courted
- 38:37and he chose her, and so I don't know what I was just like.
- 38:40So then Janelle comes in and says kind of what we're all thinking,
- 38:44which is, oh, because we asked to come into the relationship, which,
- 38:47by the way, is the way that we do it in our religion.
- 38:50When we're supposed to ask because they've got a special testimony on their heart
- 38:52of the father, and so they're going to ask. But because we asked,
- 38:57we're not entitled to the same things as these others. It's fucking well.
- 39:00And then Cody's like, well, but they asked to be in this
- 39:04family, they chose to be in it, and then they chose to leave
- 39:07after they had already benefited from it and been in this family. It's like,
- 39:09but they chose to leave because of you, Cody. I don't know
- 39:14why you can't get that through your thick fucking skull with It's maybe it's the
- 39:17curls. And for years you kept on saying and it's their choice if they
- 39:21want to leave, If anybody wants to leave, they absolutely can't. But
- 39:22then all of a sudden, Christine wants to leave. And she's the worst
- 39:27person in the world, and she's your justification for being the devil, for
- 39:30being a toxic person and being terrible to your children. But I thought she
- 39:35had every right in the world to leave. I thought she was allowed to
- 39:37be. Okay, it's because he never thought she would leave, Maybe because
- 39:42she was the aub princess and so he thought she was a shoein, she
- 39:45was going to be super loyal. Like maybe he thought like Mary would have
- 39:47been the first and he would have been like, fine, that's cool,
- 39:50because you already sucked on a banana, So you're allowed to leave because I
- 39:53don't want anything to do with you. Right. Maybe it's because the audacity
- 39:58of the aub princess to leave Cody and call him an asshole and yeah,
- 40:04in such a public way. Yeah, this is when Nate tells Cody he's
- 40:07going to have to reconcile with the man in the mirror. And we have
- 40:12Cody talking about his pervasive, dark and intrusive thoughts and this is query I
- 40:17was just really getting the vibe that he is not a good person. It's
- 40:22not that you're having a mental health crisis. It's not that you're going through
- 40:25a supremely low time in your life because you're going through divorce, which I've
- 40:30been through that and it's really tough. Yeah, it's that, No,
- 40:32you're probably thinking about violent things. You're probably thinking about doing actual harm to
- 40:38people. And I would assume this means your wife. And maybe I'm taking
- 40:42liberties here, but the vibe of what he was saying when he was talking
- 40:45about the kind of thoughts that he's actually thinking, I'm like, oh,
- 40:49you're thinking really ugly, terrible thoughts. I mean, like hurting people thoughts,
- 40:52hurting Christine thoughts. That's the vibe that I got from it too.
- 40:57And with him gritting his teeth and everything, he's like, I want to
- 41:00warned right now. It's like, okay, dude, chill the fuck out.
- 41:04First of all, right, you're fifty something. Calm the fuck down.
- 41:07You're fifty something. I mean, you're a grown man. You've had
- 41:09a lot of life experience, you have all of these children. Are you
- 41:13really going to indulge this terrible behavior? All? The answer is yes,
- 41:16yes. And he's like, well, if you think I'm an asshole,
- 41:19let me show you what being an asshole actually looks like. And with a
- 41:22gleeful little smile on his face, he's happy to show you how I want
- 41:27to fuck you over. I get a little worried sometimes forge now, Yeah,
- 41:31I get a little worried sometimes for Robin. Yeah, I wonder about
- 41:37what is actually going on with Robin and Cody's relationship, because in this segment,
- 41:43like it's difficulty, he directs all of this stuff at me, and
- 41:47I have a hard time because I'm wondering, are you just saying that so
- 41:52again you can align with the wives that they can think you're one of them
- 41:54so that they can continue to give you money, or are you crying out
- 41:58for help because is more than just emotionally and verbally abusive at home. I
- 42:05don't know, That's what I wonder too. I was watching this episode thinking
- 42:08like, Okay, maybe Robin's telling some truth, because like, what's the
- 42:13motivation for her to be throwing him under the bus like that if that's untrue.
- 42:16I mean, I guess because she wants to take some of the heat
- 42:20off of herself and her eyebrows. Maybe that's why. But I don't know.
- 42:23That's kind of some strong accusations because didn't she say, like was it
- 42:27a couple episodes ago or last season or something where she was like, you
- 42:30know, I'm worried because he's angry all the time and he's taking all of
- 42:34that out on me and my kids. I'm like, oh, yes,
- 42:37yike. Cody says to Nathan that he doesn't want Robin to know just how
- 42:43dark his thoughts actually get, or just how awful and evil he actually feels
- 42:50himself to be. And then I'm thinking to myself, but you're perfectly fine
- 42:52for Janelle's Now, you're perfectly fine to lean forward in the argument with Janelle
- 42:57and point your finger at her and point your finger at the camera and be
- 43:00as toxic as possible without physical violence. Yeah, you're okay with that,
- 43:04but God forbid. Robin gets a glimpse of what's really in my dark heart,
- 43:07as he says with fake tears in his eyes. But then he also
- 43:12says which I thought was kind of a little bit genuine, where he was
- 43:15crying and saying like, I've always tried so hard to be the good guy,
- 43:19and now I really don't want to be the good guy anymore, like
- 43:22in my life. And I was like, dang, because it showed some
- 43:24of his earlier photos where he looked happy and you can see the blue in
- 43:29his eyes, and now his eyes are fucking dark and demon like, and
- 43:31I'm like, the whites of his eyes are actually kind of red. Yeah,
- 43:35everything about him is like red and angry. This is tearing him up.
- 43:37His curls are super tight, super angry. This is where he also
- 43:44says something about his urge to break everything yeah, and to move on and
- 43:47find something that's not broken, And it kind of sounded like he was also
- 43:52talking about Robin, I know, and their situation, like he has an
- 43:57urge to just walk away. And this is where she said, if he
- 44:00left me, I'd be devastated and he would regret it for the rest of
- 44:02his life. What do you mean, Robin, What do you think she
- 44:07means financial? Well, I mean she's legally married to him. Take him
- 44:09for everything. Yeah, you will regret it. And also you're never going
- 44:13to have a break dancing put mine. So Cody also talks about his two
- 44:20youngest children still loving him and as long as they love him, he wants
- 44:23to be there for them. And I'm like, all of your kids,
- 44:27what about truly though truly loving? I think Savannah also loves you. Who's
- 44:30a lot of your kids probably still love you. I think Gabe is crying
- 44:34on national television because he actually loves you. I think they all really love
- 44:38you. Yeah, but you only want to be there for the littles.
- 44:40And it was kind of conspicuous that he didn't mention Dayton, Banna and Aurora
- 44:45just a little. So maybe that do you think they don't like him.
- 44:49I don't know. I'm wondering if maybe there's a little bit because I think
- 44:52didn't they kick out Dayton into the RV oh yeah, over a COVID thing,
- 44:57which is what the rumor is, and then we had somebody living in
- 45:00the basement because they were going to school back and forth. So maybe there's
- 45:04some issues with him and Robin's three oldest kids. Or maybe he's just that
- 45:09kind of a person who makes a distinction between his biological children and his adopted
- 45:15children, even though his adopted children love him just as much. Yeah,
- 45:19they're just a fucking asshole. Maybe he only gives attention to the littles.
- 45:22Usually, my dad's kind of like that. My dad was really good with
- 45:24like little kids and us as younger, and then like the second we became
- 45:29teenagers and like could speak for ourselves and have attitude, he's like, yeah,
- 45:32I don't want nothing to do with you. Wow. I know.
- 45:35So maybe Cody's like that too, because it seems like he's caring so much
- 45:37about the littles. Yeah, but then you have truly who he just doesn't
- 45:40give a buck about. Yeah, you really, you can't use that kind
- 45:45of logic, which I have truly, right, he just doesn't care about
- 45:47truly. And you had Isabel who was a minor getting surgery, and you
- 45:51just don't care about Isabel. And you have Savannah who is a miner at
- 45:53Christmas and you just don't care about Savannah, who would really love for you
- 45:58to be there. So it's not compute, does not this entire conversation with
- 46:02Nathan. Your pr stunt isn't coming across the way you think it is,
- 46:07my guy, Nope, it's making you look worse. And Nathan, you
- 46:09look like a weirdo I know of a man. Shout out to Ethel,
- 46:15she gave me that turn. Totally all right. And then we get to
- 46:20the final segment where we have Christine visiting Janelle and some of the kids go
- 46:25and see Cody, and so when Christine and her kids come over, they
- 46:30have a snowball fight. Yeah, and it kind of just feels like it
- 46:34goes right back to the family. Yeah, big holiday celebratory vibes that they're
- 46:40used to, and you can just tell they're actually really happy to see one
- 46:44another, of course, and I mean all these kids like grew up together,
- 46:46so of course they just kind of go back into the rhythm of things,
- 46:50and Cody's not there to put a damper on it. So it is
- 46:52kind of sweet given the terribleness of this situation. Yes, and we have
- 46:58that scene with Gabe and Garrison and Savannah on the couch, and this is
- 47:01where Gabe says that he feels like his father and Robin didn't make enough of
- 47:07an effort and it wasn't like they slided him specifically, but he does absolutely
- 47:13feel like they neglected him. And he included Robin in that, which is
- 47:17nice thing, right, because maybe it really does matter that she love him,
- 47:22maybe he really does want a relationship with her. Well, she's kind
- 47:25of complicit in it too. I mean, all the other wives care about
- 47:30fucking Gabe and Garrison. They care about all of the kids, right,
- 47:32And Robin has made it clear that if you don't make your allegiances to me
- 47:37and your loyalty to me, then I'm not going to like you. And
- 47:39if you don't give me an apology for nothing for calling them and saying her
- 47:46bullshit and I'm blaming you right after they hadn't seen him for eight or nine
- 47:50months, Yeah, then of course then I don't want anything to do with
- 47:53you. But then it is the next fucking scene. Ye, Robin's crying,
- 47:58crying and saying, you know, well, the boys don't want to
- 48:01see me, and it's just so heartbreaking. And if I felt like they
- 48:06actually wanted to be a part of mine or my children's lives or my holidays,
- 48:10I would have pushed for that to happen. Just last episode, when
- 48:15Mary recommends, or Mary suggests rather that they call everybody over to her house
- 48:20for Christmas Eve, she is the one who said, but that's scary.
- 48:22It's a scary thought. I don't feel safe. Yeah, I mean kids
- 48:25won't feel safe. So I don't don't know about that. So I thought
- 48:30that's how you felt about it. But now all of a sudden, maybe
- 48:32it's getting back to you what the kids are saying, and they're talking heads,
- 48:36and now you want to act like if there was any inclination, any
- 48:39inkling that the kids want to be with you, I would push for it.
- 48:43Lies, lies, gaslighting, overt gas but dumb gaslighting gaslighting that's easily
- 48:51disproven by just watching the previous episode. You don't stupid. Then we have
- 48:57Gabe saying on the couch that they actually have reached out to Cody. Yep,
- 49:02I don't remember if he said that. There was no response to that,
- 49:06but he said they've reached out. And then we have Cody saying that
- 49:09he was the one to reach out to them and he was rejected over and
- 49:14over, which I don't believe for a fucking minute. I mean, I
- 49:17think rejection for Cody is probably just them trying to express how they feel and
- 49:22how they've felt like he's been neglecting them, and he's like, well,
- 49:27fine, fuck you then, right Honestly, like that's probably the rejection that
- 49:30Cody's talking about. And like I said in our reaction, like, if
- 49:34I have a choice, I'm going to believe the person who hasn't lied over
- 49:39and over again, over again, across seasons to our face. And that's
- 49:43when you go to you've been the one who's been lying, and it's not
- 49:45been Gabe. Gabe has been the one that's been crying ye and putting his
- 49:49heart on his sleeve, And so yeah, I don't believe you. And
- 49:52also in the previous episode, you said the phone goes both ways, right,
- 49:54you haven't called the kids, so like, which is it? What
- 49:58is liars? You've been reaching out repeatedly or you haven't reached out at all
- 50:00because you're pissed off at them. Still while the reality is and Janelle confirms
- 50:05it that he didn't reach out. Nope, he didn't reach out. He's
- 50:07expecting her to be the carrier pigeon that relays all of his thoughts and desires.
- 50:12But then when she doesn't do it exactly the way he wants to have
- 50:15her do it, he blames her. Yep, yeah, blames her for
- 50:19the destruction of I just feel like he's a terrible person with no reason value
- 50:22agreed at all. Then we get to McKelty, truly an asking going over
- 50:28to Cody's and Robin has reserved some of the Christmas presents for her kids so
- 50:34that they can also open presents when the other kids are there. That was
- 50:37on purpose. That was on purpose, And that was a mound of fucking
- 50:40gifts that she reserves. Yeah, there were a ton of gifts under the
- 50:45tree on Christmas Day, and then she got a ton of other presents to
- 50:49put under the tree for her kids and make her kids feel included. Truly,
- 50:52McKelty, and ask me, now, this is when we have Christine
- 50:57saying that McKelty is a bridge because Chelty is neutral. And this is where
- 51:01I said to you, no, fuck that shit. Machelty is not neutral,
- 51:05certainly not in the r verl or twenty twenty three when she has a
- 51:07Patreon where she's constantly running defense for defending Cody and Robin. Even when Cody
- 51:14is abusing Janelle on television, she's not calling him out. So no,
- 51:17she's not neutral. No, nor is she abridge. She's availing herself of
- 51:22every opportunity she has. And it probably goes back to what we've said.
- 51:27I think it was a couple episodes ago now that Mickelty may seek approval from
- 51:31Cody and Robin, so that's probably why she tries to play both sides and
- 51:36everything. But Robin did say in this episode, Mackelty has made it clear
- 51:40that she is neutral, and I'm like, Okay, what are you getting
- 51:45at with that? Are you really expecting McKelty to turn against her mom?
- 51:50Because none of the kids have turned against their mom, So I don't know
- 51:53why you would even say something. Because McKelty actually said I'm neutral. I
- 51:59think McKelty went to Cody and Robin because this is her opportunity to finally be
- 52:04the golden child. Like we have discussed. So she goes to Code and
- 52:07Robin and she's like, I'm on your side. I totally see where you're
- 52:10coming from because on her own Patreon, her and Tony were like, yeah,
- 52:15Robin was excluded. She wasn't part of the click and neither was McKelty,
- 52:19so we can totally relate. So I can see McKelty saying I get
- 52:22it, I believe you. I'm on your side, and availing herself of
- 52:25any opportunity that might give her. And we discussed well, I wonder if
- 52:30there's a monetary benefit for McKelty for siding with Cody and Robin, maybe more
- 52:35of an opportunity to be filmed, maybe some other kind of a kickback that
- 52:38she might get from them because they approve of her. And she also avails
- 52:44herself of the benefit of being Christine's daughter. They just went on this London
- 52:46trip, right, they went all over Europe. I'm not sure if McKelty
- 52:50paid for anything or whether Christine and David paid for everything. But she's playing
- 52:53both sides. That's not a fucking bridge. That's a two faced I don't
- 52:58like McKelty right there, but that's a person who's two faced. That's a
- 53:01person who's parasitical. Yeah, and who's taking what she can get from everybody
- 53:07involved. Right, I've no, really gross. Yeah, it's really freaking
- 53:10gross, especially if what we've talked about before with Cody not accepting Leon and
- 53:16their transition and all this stuff. I'm like, especially with all of that
- 53:20in the background, like, how could you even try and be friends or
- 53:24be on good terms with Cody and Robin? Like, if you love all
- 53:29of your other siblings, I don't understand how you can even try and justify
- 53:31all of this. But she says, and she said on her Patreon that
- 53:36the show just edits them badly. That's her justification for it. I'm like,
- 53:39really, I can't really, So are you really actually believing Cody and
- 53:45Robin's bullshit? No, you're just playing the late She's incentivized to take that
- 53:50position. She went to Hayden's wedding, where Robin and Cody showed up two
- 53:54hours late. They missed the actual wedding the nuptiles. They showed up late
- 53:59to the rest option. They didn't bring the littles because I think Robin wants
- 54:02to keep the littles away from LGBTQI. A displays. I mean, that's
- 54:08just the theory that people are running with, and I can kind of see
- 54:12it. She doesn't want the littles to be around Gwen and her big battles.
- 54:15Yeah, wife and McKelty, if you even have a hint of a
- 54:20vibe like that, you aren't going to call that out in the Year of
- 54:22Our Lord twenty twenty three on your Patreon. I mean, I have no
- 54:25respect for her. I don't have respect for her either. Maybe it is
- 54:29because she wants to be the Golden child, so she's just sucking up and
- 54:31enabling all of it. But I'm like, I can't relate. I can't
- 54:37we hear Cody saying that he's struggling to reach out to Janelle's family because it's
- 54:40Janelle's family that are a source of my pain. So that's why you're not
- 54:45going to talk to your kids, even though Savannah has done literally nothing wrong,
- 54:49Like Janelle says, like, you can't even reach out to Savannah,
- 54:52who's done absolutely nothing to me. She's connected to Janelle, and because he
- 54:55has an offense, he's harboring an offense against Janelle, he will not reach
- 55:00out to his beautiful daughter, Savannah petty. We end this episode with Cody
- 55:05saying essentially that he knows that he has to change, but he's just not
- 55:08ready to do it yet. And there'll be other Christmases, So who cares
- 55:13if I fuck this one up? Who cares if I do incredible damage to
- 55:16my children this Christmas? There'll be other ones and it'll be all right in
- 55:20the future, and it'll be fine. That's so fucking delusional, dude,
- 55:23because everybody's going to remember the one Christmas that we spent all a part.
- 55:28This is the first Christmas ever that they've spent all apart like this and so
- 55:34fucking separated. It's crazy. It's like there's literally a divide halfway in between
- 55:37the family. Two wives over there, two wives over here with the rest
- 55:42of the fucking family. Yes, and you're the patriarch, You're the leader.
- 55:45The buck stops with you, and so you're responsible for the condition of
- 55:49your family. Whether I want to be or not. I know you want
- 55:52to be this little bitch boy who wants to complain and have your season of
- 55:54hatred for Christine and the rest of your family. But that's not what adults
- 55:59do, certainly not what adult parents do. You step up. You do
- 56:01the honorable thing. You take care of your children, you take care of
- 56:05your wives. Yes, and you don't know you don't know how to do
- 56:07that. Nope, because you're essentially a terrible person. To not prefer you.
- 56:13I do not prefer him either. I think it's too much effort for
- 56:15him to maintain the rest of the family in his mind. I'm not saying
- 56:19it's too much effort in general, because you're the one that fucking created this
- 56:22old family, dude, But I think in his mind it's like too much
- 56:25work for him to try and fix the rest of the family. So it's
- 56:30just easier with my smaller family that's still valid, by the way, so
- 56:34small but not unimportant. It's beautiful. I love my small family that I've
- 56:38replaced with the rest of my kids. So that's what I think. I
- 56:43think he's just like, I don't want to deal with it. That's why
- 56:45he's pushing everybody away. It's why he doesn't want to make any effort with
- 56:49the kids. But is he ever going to like have an epiphany, is
- 56:52he ever going to realize, holy fuck, I love these people, I've
- 56:55driven them away, or is he just going to live out the rest of
- 56:59his life, getting more bitter and more bitter and pretending none of it is
- 57:01happening, and going no contact with his actual children. Like, is that
- 57:06what he's gonna do? I mean, that's what it seems like. It's
- 57:07feel riding it. Yeah, but he needs to do some like Ayahuascar or
- 57:10some shit. Yeah, he needs to have a trip. He has to
- 57:14go see the little elves, do some Dmtsody's meeting with Jesus. God,
- 57:19Jesus didn't die for all this. He died for you to be a good
- 57:22dad to your family and a good husband to your wives. If it takes
- 57:24some responsibility for your bad behavior, it's okay. We've all done shit in
- 57:30life. We've made bad decisions. But like, you don't get to spend
- 57:32two years, three years, and it's been a long time. It hasn't
- 57:36just been since COVID, right, it was happening in Vegas. You don't
- 57:38get to just do your favorites and treat your family like this and pretend it's
- 57:43not happening. I mean, it's crazy, dude. Remember when he's talking
- 57:46about his small but not unimportant and beautiful family with Robin, he's also saying,
- 57:52can I make the adjustment from having a big family to having this small
- 57:55but beautiful and not an important family. And I'm like, no, you
- 57:58can't make that adjustment. You have a big family, literally have eighteen other
- 58:01children, or you literally have all of these other people that are part of
- 58:05your family. You can't adjust your way out of the reality of that.
- 58:09And the fact that you would even ask that question is disgusting. It's super
- 58:13fucking gross, dude, Like, these kids have done nothing to you.
- 58:15I mean, I guess besides Gabe and Garrison for having the balls to confront
- 58:20you on your bullshit and your beloved wife and call her out on her Bullshit's
- 58:25that is the ultimate audacity and betrayal to beauty that you would call my beloved
- 58:31soulmate, Robin an accuser of any wrongdoing whatsoever. But she's not my favorite
- 58:36wife, you guys. Yeah, no, no, no, no,
- 58:37I don't have favorite completely fair with everybody. Get the fuck adda here?
- 58:43Well the preview, I'm not even remembering what's going on with the preview,
- 58:46do you? There's not much besides uh, Mary saying Cyanara bitches, oh,
- 58:51and Christine's like, oh, Robin knew the entire time that she had
- 58:53more time with Cody, and this is why I don't trust her. And
- 58:57Robin even says like I I think she says too Mary and like a weird
- 59:01talking thing. Outside of their house, She's like, well, there were
- 59:05a lot of times where Cody didn't visit my house and didn't I didn't get
- 59:08to have as much time with him. Oh bitch, police, police,
- 59:15Oh my gosh. I'm here for it. I am I'm here for the
- 59:17entire raveling of the Brown family. I am here for these women reclaiming their
- 59:23agency and their Yeah, i am here for Janelle suing the fuck out of
- 59:29Robin and Cody Hope. And I'm wondering what she does to get her hands,
- 59:34her hot little hands on that one hundred and forty thousand dollars, which
- 59:37is rumored that they took a loan out against the equity in the McMansion to
- 59:40give her that money cash liquid. Wouldn't that be so cool if we got
- 59:44to see that she probably threatened to sue him. I mean, I would
- 59:46love Oh my god, please see please, I'm here for all of it.
- 59:52So we will be back next week to talk sister wives. We will
- 59:54not be back next week on Wednesday or Thursday for Plathville, or the following
- 59:59week because she's going on vacation. I'm going to Gloriado, but we will
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