Latest / The Family Teams Podcast / Ep. 307 | Stage 2 of Parenting: The Coach
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- 0:00those laws are going to bring them to Christ. It's like a tutor that helps them really understand that, yeah, justice is real.
- 0:11What's up, guys? Welcome back to 5-Minute Fatherhood. So we are in the middle of a series, part two of a six-part series on stage-based parenting. We just talked about the stage of being a comforter, stage one, the style of low stress, high presence. And when Jeff mentioned that you always know you're leaving that stage because the baby starts to exert independence. They start to, you know, drop the sippy cup. Testing, curiosity.
- 0:34One of our kids actually very clearly verbally was leaving the stage when every single time we tried to help her do anything, she said, do it myself, mama. Do it myself. Yeah, exactly. And that's a great moment. You should not be like, oh, I got to beat the defiance out of my chest. No, that's like awesome. Let them do it themselves and fail terribly.
- 0:58That's right. And this is a moment where you get to train your kids because they're really interested in learning things. And so you want to really engage. And so what we call this style of the goal of this stage to train them up. And this is really the stage that most people...
- 1:15when they think about parenting in general, they oftentimes think of this stage. We call this the coach stage. So the first one's comforter. The second one is coach. This is usually age two to 12. And so this is a time where you want to, your kids are really sort of more simple. They,
- 1:32they really respond well to consistency. Now they'll fight you on that stuff, but they're constantly considering the world in a much more concrete way than they will in the future stages. And so you wanna take advantage of that by creating really good boundaries, really good guardrails, really good systems.
- 1:49those things tend to work, or if they don't work, they tend to help your child, even though they might really push up against those guardrails. That's just a part of the stage, and it's really good because your children will really learn, like, what is fairness? They are very interested in fairness, justice at this stage. And I think about this stage often as, like, this is the place where their heart is being prepared for the gospel. Because there's a great verse I think about when I think about this stage in Galatians. It says, Paul says that...
- 2:18The law was our tutor to bring us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. And so a lot of what's happening is kind of laws are being passed, so to speak, in these systems and different ways in which you're sort of leading the family and you're trying to train your child. And those laws are going to bring them to Christ. It's like a tutor that helps them really understand that, yeah, justice is real.
- 2:40And also, um, this they'll understand grace a lot better, especially in the, in the next stages, if you're really good and consistent, uh, at training your kids in this stage. But Jeff, you guys are also in the thick of this one. What are your thoughts about it? Yeah, totally. I think, um, you know, and just to put ages on this one, I don't know if we're saying it audibly for those listening, but yeah, we, we put this one, the first one is zero to two, this one we put two to 12. So out of the next five or six, five or six stages we talk about, this one is probably the biggest gap, meaning like the two-year-old is radically different from the 12 year old. Yeah.
- 3:08Um, yet it still is the same thing. And I think it comes down to what are you training and coaching them in? So it's the same phase and same stage, but you just have to ask yourself, what is, what am I coaching them in, in that stage? And so I think there's almost like micro stages in this one of like every three years, I would say two to five, three to five, uh, is almost that that's the first stage of coaching and training. And that's almost, I think, uh, training them just to like obey your voice. Like your voice is commands and authority in the house. Uh, but your voice also represents gentleness, being, being, being, being, being, being,
- 3:38beauty, kindness, goodness, kind of like the orbiting force. And I think it's also training them to understand they can control themselves. I feel like that's if I look back on the two to five years, it's more just like it's mostly just training our kids to be like, no, I believe you are more powerful, strong,
- 3:55more resilient, and more emotionally capable in this moment than you think you are, right? Now, of course, still being realistic. And of course, you can't, you know, the classic can't, you know, reason with a terrorist or a toddler or whatever, like that's true. But calling them up into that, I think, is those first three years. Then we're in the next stage now, you know, like five to eight, five to nine, that they're worth our oldest right now that I would say is almost...
- 4:19The way I would put that one is almost like teaching wisdom of like, okay, you obey my voice now, but now I want, now I want to like, now we're starting to go into the spirit of coaching and the spirit of training, which is like, Hey, don't just, don't try to test my rules in the sense of, you know, butting up against it, doing the minimal with a ungrateful, you know, like I'm trying to get her to do it, do it, uh, gratefully, joyfully, fully. Right. Um, and kind of, and be wise, make, make decisions that might be
- 4:43according to the spirit of the law, I mean, according to the letter of the law, but are, but are, but are not wise, you know? Um, and then, yeah, then I don't know about the nine to 12 cause we're not there yet, but, um, but I would, I would think even similar drilling down of that. So I don't know if you would, um, follow that up with any final thought, Jeremy, but that's what I would say is that, yeah, the just coaching, coaching, coaching, training, training, training drills. What do you want your household to be like? Um, and then kind of having those micro stages, I think is the important part.
- 5:07Yeah, and the forward style of this stage is low apathy, high justice. Consistency is really key. And guys, if you're going to have a lot of consistency during this stage, this is just going to require you to think a little more about these systems and make sure that you're present and make sure they're implemented, not just handing them off to your wife or someone else. Make sure that you're there and you're constantly calibrating
- 5:32whatever sort of trainings you're doing in order to match exactly what Jeff was saying with the stage that your children are at. So this is where a lot of parenting tactics tend to work. Where we're headed next is a little bit more of the Wild West.
- 5:47So I'm excited to talk about that. But this is the coaching stage. If you guys want to see kind of our tips, a lot of them do apply to this stage. A lot of one of the places we do that a lot is on Instagram. This is a place where we're constantly a couple of times a week. We'll put up, you know, sort of an idea of parenting or family that has really impacted our families. And so you can follow us there at Family Teams.