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- 0:00Welcome to Reform Thinking. Today we are putting our
- 0:02theological and practical hats on for a very specific mission.
- 0:06We are taking a deep dive into a text by Colin Marshall,
- 0:10specifically looking at his work on growth groups.
- 0:13And to narrow our focus down even further, today we are
- 0:15examining his highly detailed instructions for the selection,
- 0:19training, and shepherding of group leaders.
- 0:22Now, if you are listening to this, you are likely someone who
- 0:25cares a great deal about the health, the order, and the
- 0:28spiritual vitality of your local congregation.
- 0:30Right. You might be a pastor who feels
- 0:33the constant weight of the congregation on your shoulders
- 0:35every single week. You might be a ruling elder
- 0:37trying to figure out how to best shepherd the flock without
- 0:40completely burning out. Or perhaps you are a dedicated
- 0:43church member who looks around on a Sunday morning, sees the
- 0:46tired eyes of your leadership, and wonders how your
- 0:48congregation can grow in its fidelity to Scripture without
- 0:52crushing the minister under the workload.
- 0:54That is the precise problem Marshall is addressing, and
- 0:57before we get into the practical logistics, we really need to lay
- 1:00out the framework for our analysis.
- 1:02Today we are approaching this text from the perspective of
- 1:05Protestant Christians who hold to Reformed theology.
- 1:07We adhere to the Westminster Confession, and we will be
- 1:10examining Marshall's practical instructions through that
- 1:13specific theological lens. We want to see how the
- 1:16sovereignty of God and a biblical understanding of church
- 1:18polity aligned with what he is proposing for the local church.
- 1:22I think that is the right way to set the stage for this analysis.
- 1:25When we look at a text like Marshall's, which is highly
- 1:29practical and deals with the everyday, sometimes messy
- 1:31logistics of church life, we always need to run those
- 1:35practicalities through our theological framework.
- 1:39The Westminster Confession gives us a very structured, biblically
- 1:42derived understanding of the church, its officers, and how
- 1:45the Word of God is to be taught and maintained.
- 1:47We do not just invent church structures based on corporate
- 1:50business models or whatever happens to be trending in the
- 1:52broader evangelical world. This week we look to Scripture.
- 1:55Yeah, that is a crucial distinction.
- 1:56And Marshall is dealing with the concept of small groups, which
- 1:59he calls growth groups, but he is not treating them as casual
- 2:03social gatherings where people just drink coffee and share
- 2:05their feelings. He is treating them as localized
- 2:08centers of teaching and spiritual care.
- 2:10Therefore, the leadership of those groups becomes a matter of
- 2:12strict theological concern. The primary lens we are using
- 2:16today is to see how highly practical advice regarding lay
- 2:19leadership either aligns with or informs our reformed
- 2:23understanding of how a church should be governed and how its
- 2:25members should be cared for. So Marshall is arguing right out
- 2:29of the gate that the quality of the group is dictated entirely
- 2:32by the quality of its leaders. That makes intuitive sense to
- 2:35anyone who has ever attended A poorly LED Bible study.
- 2:39But he takes it a step further and makes the definitive claim
- 2:42that developing a growth groups program requires someone to
- 2:46prioritize raising up and encouraging these leaders.
- 2:49And he states that in most churches, this person needs to
- 2:52be the pastor. He does not see this as
- 2:54something to be outsourced to a committee or a volunteer
- 2:56coordinator. He argues that the careful
- 2:59selection, training and supervision of leaders takes
- 3:02considerable time and effort, but it pays massive dividends.
- 3:05Yeah, it really does. I do want to push back on this
- 3:07just a little bit, though. In a typical Reformed Church,
- 3:10the pastor is already tasked with rigorous sermon
- 3:12preparation, which takes hours of study in the original
- 3:15languages, plus counseling, plus session meetings.
- 3:19How can Marshall argue that this is not just a side project, but
- 3:22central to the minister's work? Well, it is a very fair question
- 3:25because the demands on a solo pastor are staggering.
- 3:29But Marshall uses a very distinct phrase here that
- 3:31answers your question directly. He says the pastor must not see
- 3:35this work as a distraction from his main duties, but rather as
- 3:38the heart and soul of his work. By taking on the selection and
- 3:42training himself, the pastor ensures high quality control.
- 3:45Now, Marshall explicitly acknowledges he is borrowing a
- 3:48commercial term there. And I know sometimes we whistle
- 3:51at corporate language in the church.
- 3:52Right. We want to avoid treating the
- 3:53church like a Fortune 500 company.
- 3:55Precisely. But in a spiritual context,
- 3:59quality control means ensuring that the doctrine being taught
- 4:02in these living rooms on a Wednesday night is entirely
- 4:04sound. It means making sure the
- 4:06pastoral care being provided aligns with the broader vision
- 4:09of the session and the teachings of the Westminster Confession.
- 4:12The text points out that by doing this personally, the
- 4:15pastor knows the specific strengths and weaknesses of each
- 4:17leader. He draws into a personal
- 4:20relationship with them during the training process, allowing
- 4:23them to catch his vision for Christ in the church.
- 4:25Marshall does offer a slight caveat, mentioning that in some
- 4:29cases a pastor might delegate this, for example, a female
- 4:32staff member training women in teaching and leadership.
- 4:35But the primary thrust is that the pastoral office must oversee
- 4:38the equipping of these leaders to maintain that doctrinal and
- 4:41spiritual quality. I want to draw attention to a
- 4:43specific metric Marshall uses in the text because it makes this
- 4:47theological concept incredibly practical.
- 4:50He writes that a pastor working completely on his own might be
- 4:54able to build up a congregation of 100 or even 150 people.
- 4:58But beyond that number, Marshall points out that it becomes
- 5:01exceedingly difficult to have enough contact with the members
- 5:04for effective personal ministry. That number is quite revealing.
- 5:09It is a very hard ceiling. If you think about the sheer
- 5:12math of trying to personally counsel, visit the hospital,
- 5:16handle premarital counseling, and spiritually guide more than
- 5:18150 individuals, the limitations of a single human being become
- 5:22totally obvious. A solo pastor simply cannot
- 5:25scale his own physical presence. Going beyond that threshold of
- 5:29150 people requires A-Team to maintain effective ministry.
- 5:32Where else people start slipping through the cracks and the
- 5:34pastor ends up having a nervous breakdown.
- 5:37That mathematical limitation is precisely why Marshall points us
- 5:41toward the New Testament pattern of plural leadership.
- 5:44We see this all through the New Testament, a pattern of having
- 5:47many leaders functioning within one congregation.
- 5:50He points to situations where there is one minister with
- 5:53overall responsibility, like Paul, taking leadership of young
- 5:57congregations born through his preaching.
- 5:59But Paul did not stay there forever and try to micromanage
- 6:02200 people. He appointed delegates like
- 6:05Timothy and Titus to lead those churches.
- 6:07He multiplied the leadership. The text refers to these
- 6:10individuals as missionary leaders because they came from
- 6:12outside the congregation to preach and plant the new church.
- 6:16These specific leaders were financially supported by the
- 6:18churches so they could give themselves without distraction
- 6:21to the work. However, Marshall makes sure to
- 6:24point out that once those New Testament churches were firmly
- 6:26established, local elders were appointed from within the church
- 6:29itself. The missionary leader moved on
- 6:32and the plural local leadership took the reins.
- 6:35OK, let's unpack this, because Marshall makes a very bold claim
- 6:38here that might raise some eyebrows in our circles.
- 6:41He says it would be quite appropriate in New Testament
- 6:43terms to call these growth group leaders elders or pastors.
- 6:47Now, for someone coming from a strict Reformed background,
- 6:50applying the title of elder or pastor to a small group leader
- 6:54might sound provocative at first.
- 6:56We usually reserve those titles for men who have been formally
- 6:59ordained by the presbytery or the local session after rigorous
- 7:03theological exams. Is Marshall playing fast and
- 7:06loose with biblical titles here? It might sound drawing at first
- 7:09hearing, but when we look at the biblical terminology he
- 7:11references, such as overseer, elder or leader, and note his
- 7:15observation that in other places these individuals are given No
- 7:18title but are expected to teach and shepherd, his argument
- 7:21becomes very clear. He is not saying we abandoned
- 7:24our ordination standards. He is arguing for the function
- 7:26of the role. A church should have many
- 7:28pastors or elders, not just one. The chief pastor, who is usually
- 7:32full time and financially compensated, needs a dedicated
- 7:35team of lay pastors to do the work properly.
- 7:37That makes a lot of sense when you look at the actual
- 7:39day-to-day needs of congregation.
- 7:41And if we connect this to our Reformed understanding, we
- 7:44already believe in the plurality of elders.
- 7:46We do not believe in a monarchical episcopacy.
- 7:49Let me break that down for a moment.
- 7:51A monarchical episcopacy is a system where one single Bishop
- 7:54or pastor sits at the top of a hierarchy and dictates
- 7:57everything. That is essentially a single
- 7:59pastor dictatorship. In reformed polity, the local
- 8:03church is governed by a session, which is a shared, plural body
- 8:06of elders. Marshall is taking that
- 8:08governmental reality and applying it to the localized
- 8:11practical teaching ministry of the church.
- 8:13If these growth group leaders are opening the Word of God,
- 8:16correcting error, guarding the flock against false teaching,
- 8:19and providing spiritual care, they are functioning in a
- 8:22pastoral capacity for that small group of 10 or 12 people.
- 8:26And to facilitate this without bankrupting the church budget,
- 8:29Marshall brings in the concept of tent making, referencing the
- 8:32Apostle Paul in Acts chapter 18. Paul supported himself by
- 8:36working as a literal tent maker so he would not be a financial
- 8:39burden to the churches he was planting.
- 8:42Marshall argues that these modern lay pastors, these growth
- 8:45group leaders, will be people who work in other paid jobs.
- 8:49They are accountants, lumbers, teachers and software engineers
- 8:52by day, which is their tent making.
- 8:54Their secular vocation, yes. Right.
- 8:56And this allows them to do the heavy lifting of ministry
- 8:58without draining the financial resources of the congregation.
- 9:02It is a brilliant way to multiply a church's pastoral
- 9:05care exponentially without needing to multiply the church's
- 9:08payroll at the exact same rate. It is highly practical, but it
- 9:11also reflects A robust theology of vocation.
- 9:14The person working in the secular marketplace is not a
- 9:17second class citizen in the Kingdom of God.
- 9:19Their secular work pays their bills, but their calling also
- 9:22includes this shepherding role within the body of Christ.
- 9:26However, as brilliant as the sounds in theory, moving from
- 9:29this ideal biblical model to the harsh realities of church life
- 9:33is where things usually break down.
- 9:35Which brings us, naturally to the next major issue Marshall
- 9:38addresses looking at Section 14.2 of the text, the obstacles
- 9:42and the excuses. If this plural leadership model
- 9:45is so biblical and so practical, why do so many churches fail at
- 9:49it? Marshall points out that a paid
- 9:51minister of a church is pulled in a multitude of directions.
- 9:54He knows that everyone in the congregation thinks they own a
- 9:56piece of the minister. This creates a constant tension
- 9:59between his long term goals of training leaders and the
- 10:02unrelenting demands placed upon him every single day.
- 10:05Because of this, setting aside hours every week to train a
- 10:07handful of lay leaders often feels like just one more good
- 10:10thing to do on an already impossible list.
- 10:13The text describes this tension as the immediate versus the long
- 10:17term. There is always enough Regent
- 10:19work just to keep the existing machinery of the church running.
- 10:23Marshall vividly describes this as keeping the program running
- 10:26with preaching, visitation committees, weekly crises and
- 10:29the routine of hatch, match and dispatch.
- 10:31Hatch, match and dispatch. That is quite the phrase.
- 10:34It is a rather blunt, almost cynical way to describe the
- 10:37endless cycle of baptisms, weddings and funerals, but it
- 10:41accurately captures how a minister can feel when he is
- 10:44just surviving from one event to the next.
- 10:47When a minister is drowning in the immediate demands of
- 10:49pastoral care and administrative upkeep, finding the quiet,
- 10:53dedicated time to slowly train lay leaders seems completely
- 10:57impossible. The tyrant of the urgent always
- 10:59defeats the quiet necessity of the long term planning.
- 11:03However, the text clearly states that choosing not to train
- 11:05leaders is short term thinking. If training becomes a priority,
- 11:09the long term result is more and better workers.
- 11:12It shifts the burden. Instead of the minister doing
- 11:14all the people work himself, there will be others on the team
- 11:17and much of the spiritual growth will begin to take place within
- 11:19the small groups rather than relying solely on the Sunday
- 11:22pulpit. Here's where it gets really
- 11:23interesting because Marshall diagnosis a very specific toxic
- 11:28mindset that causes the short term thinking.
- 11:31He contrasts using people with developing people.
- 11:36He observes that ministers tend to be need driven rather than
- 11:38resource driven. Think about how a typical church
- 11:42operates. The personnel needs of the
- 11:44church programs become incredibly urgent and dominate
- 11:47the horizon. People are frantically recruited
- 11:49just to plug the gaps of the leadership of the Sunday school,
- 11:52the youth group, the property committee, or the existing Bible
- 11:55study groups. The driving feeling among the
- 11:58leadership is that the status quo must be maintained at all
- 12:01costs and all current programs must keep running no matter
- 12:04what. We have all seen this happen.
- 12:05We have probably all been victims of this.
- 12:08Marshall describes it as the annual scramble for workers.
- 12:11It leads to a series of awkward conversations in the church
- 12:13foyer with people who do not actually wish to lead, who have
- 12:16no gifting for the role, but who simply cannot say no to the
- 12:19pastor when he looks at them with desperate eyes.
- 12:21That scramble for workers is a glaring symptom of a church that
- 12:25is focused on maintaining institutions rather than
- 12:28equipping Saints. You end up with resentful
- 12:30volunteers instead of joyful servants.
- 12:33To break this cycle, Marshall proposes A radical thought
- 12:36experiment. This is where the text
- 12:39challenges us to completely shift our paradigm.
- 12:42He asks us to imagine if a minister were to hypothetically
- 12:45scrap all the church's current programs entirely.
- 12:47Just wipe the slate clean. No youth group, no men's
- 12:50breakfast, no women's auxiliary, no Wednesday night program.
- 12:54Nothing. Just a completely blank
- 12:56calendar. Yes.
- 12:57Then the minister sits down with the church membership role and
- 13:00asks for specific questions about each member.
- 13:02First, what do they really want to do?
- 13:04Second, what are their gifts? Third, what would be their best
- 13:08contribution to the ministry? And 4th what nurture, training
- 13:11and encouragement do they need to get there?
- 13:13That thought experiment is staggering.
- 13:15Imagine the panic in a typical session meeting if the pastor
- 13:18walked in and suggested canceling every program.
- 13:21Most churches operate based purely on precedent.
- 13:24We do the fall festival because we've always done the fall
- 13:27festival. Marshall admits this approach
- 13:29might result in many of the old programs simply ceasing to
- 13:32exist, but he asks us to imagine how the members would feel under
- 13:36this new paradigm. They would feel loved,
- 13:39motivated, relieved, and free. By taking this approach, a
- 13:43church moves away from using people to maintain rigid
- 13:45programs and moves toward developing people to do ministry
- 13:49based on how God has actually wired them.
- 13:51Instead of determining the schedule by precedent and then
- 13:53hunting for warm bodies to fill the empty slots, this method
- 13:56allows new ministries to evolve organically around members who
- 13:59are actually equipped, confident, and gifted in that
- 14:02particular area. This provides 2 highly specific
- 14:05examples to illustrate the shift from need driven to resource
- 14:09driven ministry, Marshall says. You might have absolutely no one
- 14:13equipped to run the traditional youth work in your church.
- 14:15You have been begging people for years and it is a constant
- 14:18source of stress. But if you stop looking at the
- 14:21empty slot and start looking at your actual resources, you might
- 14:25find a Vietnamese couple in your congregation who would love to
- 14:27reach their compatriots in the community.
- 14:30They simply need to be equipped and supported for that specific
- 14:33task. Or you might struggle endlessly
- 14:35to find an organizer for the Men's fellowship, but you
- 14:38discover a married couple who would love to start a growth
- 14:41group in their local neighborhood and just need some
- 14:43training. It is a complete reversal of how
- 14:45we normally operate. It is Marshall's conclusion is
- 14:47striking here. He says the work amongst men may
- 14:50flounder until a suitable leader is trained, but the work amongst
- 14:53couples will surge ahead. It is better that new ministries
- 14:56be done effectively by gifted people than that old ones
- 14:59continue to exist poorly without appropriate leadership.
- 15:03As he says, God works through people, not our programs.
- 15:07That point directly challenges how we view church resources.
- 15:10Marshall draws a sharp contrast between physical resources and
- 15:14human resources. He points out that churches can
- 15:16become so preoccupied with physical resources that the
- 15:19development of people is entirely forfeited.
- 15:22He lists the massive energy drains that consume a session's
- 15:25time, setting the budget, raising the funds, worrying
- 15:28about financial shortfalls, dealing with the air
- 15:31conditioning, braking, and renovating or expanding
- 15:33buildings. Marshall argues that if the
- 15:35pastor could delegate at least some of these physical and
- 15:38administrative concerns to capable deacons, he will have
- 15:41the necessary energy to dedicated to the training of
- 15:43leadership. This means valuing the human
- 15:46capital of the congregation over the structural maintenance of
- 15:48the building. The church is the people, not
- 15:50the brick and mortar. Which leads us directly into the
- 15:52next logical question. If the pastor has cleared his
- 15:56schedule of the tyranny of the urgent and he is ready to focus
- 15:59on human resources, how does he choose the right people?
- 16:02This is the art of selection, which Marshall covers in section
- 16:0614.3 of the text. Marshall states that choosing
- 16:09leaders is something of an art. It involves developing a nose
- 16:12for it. You cannot just look at a
- 16:14spreadsheet of church attendance and pick the people who show up
- 16:16most often. It means learning to make useful
- 16:19observations while working side by side with group members.
- 16:22He provides 4 distinct criteria for selection and the first is
- 16:26informal influence. He states that one thing leaders
- 16:29require is followers. A pastor should look for those
- 16:32who already have a healthy influence over others, leading
- 16:35them informally in the natural rhythms of church life.
- 16:38That concept of informal influence is a great diagnostic
- 16:41tool. What does that actually look
- 16:43like? It looks like the person in the
- 16:45church foyer after the service who always has a small crowd
- 16:48around them, not because they are loud or obnoxious, but
- 16:51because people naturally seek out their advice in their
- 16:53company. They are already leading, they
- 16:55just do not have a title yet. The second criterion Marshall
- 16:59points to is unprompted encouragement.
- 17:01He advises looking for individuals who take up ministry
- 17:04opportunities without having to be asked.
- 17:06The self starters. Exactly.
- 17:08Well, spot on. These are the people who stay
- 17:11late to stack the chairs, who notice the visitors sitting
- 17:14alone and invite them to lunch, or who organize a meal train for
- 17:18a sick family without waiting for the church office to do it.
- 17:21They demonstrate a true servant heart and a genuine love for
- 17:24others. They're not seeking the prestige
- 17:26of an appointed title. They are already doing the work
- 17:29quietly in the background. If someone only ministers when
- 17:33they're handed a microphone or an official title on the church
- 17:36website, they lack the intrinsic motivation required for genuine
- 17:39spiritual leadership. The third criterion is
- 17:42theological rigor, which connects directly to our
- 17:44Reformed convictions. The text asks who is wrestling
- 17:49with the Bible. In theology.
- 17:51Marshall instructs pastors to look for people who are
- 17:53consistently asking good questions and who are reading
- 17:56the books the pastor recommends in addition to reading their
- 17:58Bible. He asks if these individuals are
- 18:01helping others in their current small group to understand the
- 18:03text. In the context of the
- 18:05Westminster Confession, we hold an exceptionally high view of
- 18:08scriptural literacy and doctrinal clarity.
- 18:11A lay leader who is indifferent to theology is an absolute
- 18:14danger to the flock. The Confession teaches that the
- 18:17whole counsel of God is either expressly set down in Scripture,
- 18:21or can be deduced from it by good and necessary consequences.
- 18:23Which requires actual mental effort.
- 18:25Yes, it requires study. A leader must be someone willing
- 18:28to do the hard work of deducing and understanding those truths.
- 18:32They need to understand concepts like justification by faith
- 18:35alone, the federal headship of Christ, and the sovereignty of
- 18:37God, because those doctrines are what provide actual comfort to a
- 18:41grieving group member on a Tuesday night.
- 18:44If they do not care about theology, they cannot care for
- 18:47the sheep properly. The 4th and final criterion
- 18:49Marshall lists is the pursuit of godliness.
- 18:52He asks who is sorting out issues of godliness.
- 18:56The text is uncompromising here. It explicitly warns that those
- 19:00who are hard hearted and unrepentant should not be
- 19:02allowed to lead under any circumstances.
- 19:04Leaders must possess A blameless reputation within their group,
- 19:07within the wider congregation, and out in the secular world.
- 19:11Now let's be clear about what this means.
- 19:12This is not about seeking sinless perfection.
- 19:14If we demanded sinless perfection, the pastor would
- 19:16have to resign and we would have 0 leaders.
- 19:18It is about the trajectory of their life.
- 19:21Are they actively repenting when they fail or they're pursuing
- 19:23holiness? This brings in the Reformed
- 19:25doctrine of progressive sanctification.
- 19:28We understand that while believers are justified
- 19:31completely and finally by faith in Christ, the process of
- 19:34sanctification being made actually holy in our conduct is
- 19:37ongoing and lifelong. A leader must be someone who is
- 19:41actively engaged in that process, putting sin to death
- 19:44and growing in grace. If a person is marked by
- 19:47unrepentance, if they harbor secret sins that they refuse to
- 19:50confess, or if they have a scandalous reputation in their
- 19:53workplace, putting them in a position of leadership will
- 19:55inevitably damage the church. It does not matter how gifted
- 19:59they are at teaching, or how much informal influence they
- 20:01possess, or how well they understand Calvin's Institutes.
- 20:04If they lack godliness, they disqualify themselves.
- 20:07Marshall's criteria perfectly balance the need for natural
- 20:10capability with the absolute requirement for theological
- 20:13soundness and personal holiness. So let's say a pastor has used
- 20:16this criteria. He has developed his nose,
- 20:19observed the congregation, and identified 3 or 4 potential
- 20:22leaders who fit the bill. How does he actually prepare
- 20:26them for the heavy task of shepherding a group?
- 20:29That brings us to the apprenticeship training model
- 20:31found in section 14.4 of the text.
- 20:33I think this is where Marshall's advice cuts against the grain of
- 20:36modern efficiency. Marshall completely rejects the
- 20:39idea of the pure classroom model for this type of training.
- 20:43He states clearly that ministry is not learned in the classroom
- 20:46by simply hearing lectures on how to lead a group.
- 20:48He explicitly contrasts his preferred by that with the idea
- 20:52of running a 10 week course for 100 people.
- 20:54We play devil's advocate here. A10 week classroom course is
- 20:57highly efficient, the pastor wrote a curriculum delivers it
- 21:00once to a large room and boom, you have trained leaders.
- 21:03Why is Marshall so against that? What is fascinating here is
- 21:06Marshall's phrase. Ministry is caught, not taught.
- 21:10He argues that ministry is much more than a set of mechanical
- 21:13skills. If you run a mass produced 10
- 21:15week classroom course, the text says, you might produce
- 21:18technicians. A technician knows how to run a
- 21:20meeting on time, how to ask an icebreaker question, and how to
- 21:22follow a study guide. But a technician does not know
- 21:26how to shepherd a soul. Marshall argues that ministry
- 21:29arises directly out of who we are before God.
- 21:32It stems from what we understand of Him, how we have responded to
- 21:35His gospel, how we view and treat other people, and what our
- 21:38fundamental priorities and passions are.
- 21:40The text notes that we bring to ministry all that we are, our
- 21:43beliefs, values, emotions, experiences, and behavior.
- 21:46You cannot transfer that comprehensive reality through a
- 21:49lecture alone. It requires proximity.
- 21:51You have to see how a leader reacts when someone in the group
- 21:53asks A hostile question. You have to see how a leader
- 21:56prays with someone who is weeping.
- 21:57You cannot put that in a multiple choice test.
- 21:59That is precisely why Marshall insists that the best leadership
- 22:02training is the apprenticeship model.
- 22:05The mechanics of this are very straightforward, but highly
- 22:08demanding of the pastor's time. The trainer runs a growth group
- 22:12with the trainees sitting right there under his wing as active
- 22:15participants and observers. The process is a continuous
- 22:19cycle. The trainee receives
- 22:21instruction, observes the trainer providing a good model,
- 22:24has a go with the tasks themselves, maybe by leading the
- 22:27discussion for just one evening, receives feedback from the
- 22:30trainer afterwards, has another go and repeats the process.
- 22:34It is highly relational and deeply practical.
- 22:37It allows the trainer to observe the trainee in real time
- 22:39situations dealing with actual human beings and actual biblical
- 22:43texts. Think about how awkward but
- 22:45necessary that feedback session is.
- 22:47After a trainee leads for the first time, the pastor gets to
- 22:50sit down with him and say you handled that theological
- 22:52question well, but did you notice how you completely
- 22:55ignored the person who is clearly distressed?
- 22:57You only get that level of training through apprenticeship.
- 23:00The stated goal of this intense, labor intensive process is what
- 23:03Marshall calls reproducing yourself.
- 23:06Now he acknowledges that this phrase might seem off putting at
- 23:09first glance. We do not want a church filled
- 23:12with mini pastors who mimic his exact hand gestures and clear
- 23:15their throats the exact same way.
- 23:17He clarifies what he means. It does not mean creating
- 23:20mindless clones who merely copy your personality quirks.
- 23:23Instead, the goal is to grow leaders who possess the
- 23:26necessary knowledge, the required skills, and the correct
- 23:29pastoral heart for the job. Because the pastor has seen them
- 23:32in action during the apprenticeship, he knows their
- 23:35exact strengths and weaknesses before they ever launch a group
- 23:38of their own. He multiplies his own pastoral
- 23:40reach by reproducing his theological convictions and his
- 23:43pastoral care in the lives of his apprentices.
- 23:47It is the model Jesus used with the disciples.
- 23:49He walked with them, taught them, sent them out, and then
- 23:51debriefed with them when they returned.
- 23:53That intensive training period is vital, but Marshall issues a
- 23:56severe warning about what happens after the training is
- 23:59officially over. This takes us into the final
- 24:01area of our analysis, Section 14.5, which deals with post
- 24:05training neglect and the ongoing shepherding of leaders.
- 24:09I think this is where many well meaning, otherwise healthy
- 24:11churches completely fail. They do the hard work of
- 24:15training, but then they hit what I call the graduation illusion.
- 24:19Marshall says it is very tempting to neglect leaders.
- 24:21Once they've been trained and their new group is finally
- 24:23underway. The pastor thinks, great, they
- 24:26are launched, I can cross them off my list to move on to the
- 24:28next crisis. His instruction is blunt.
- 24:31Don't do this. He argues that in some ways,
- 24:34these lay leaders need more input, not less, at this exact
- 24:37point, especially when they're brand new to the job and feeling
- 24:40the immense weight of the spiritual responsibility for the
- 24:43first time. The text highlights the ongoing
- 24:46requirement for in service training and constant
- 24:48encouragement. The apprenticeship does not end
- 24:50just because the leader has been handed their own group in a
- 24:53roster of names. The practical steps Marshall
- 24:56prescribes to prevent this post training neglect are very clear.
- 24:59This ongoing support is provided through regular meetings with a
- 25:02pastor. Notice the focus of these
- 25:05meetings though. They are not just
- 25:06administrative. Check insurance to make sure the
- 25:08attendance numbers look good. The text says they involve
- 25:11talking and praying about the leaders own life first.
- 25:15How is their marriage? How is their personal prayer
- 25:17life? Are they struggling with sin?
- 25:19The pastor must shepherd the lay leader so the lay leader is
- 25:22spiritually healthy enough to shepherd the group members.
- 25:25If the lay leader is spiritually starving, the group will starve.
- 25:28The text details that during these regular meetings, once the
- 25:31leader's personal soul care has been addressed, the progress of
- 25:34the group and any problems that have arisen can be raised.
- 25:37Most importantly, particular personal concerns for individual
- 25:40group members can be considered and strategized over.
- 25:43The pastor is still providing oversight, still providing
- 25:46pastoral care to the whole congregation, but he's doing it
- 25:49through the lay leader. He's teaching the lay leader how
- 25:52to handle a group member who's going through a divorce or a
- 25:55member who is espousing bad theology.
- 25:57I want you, the listener, to stop and consider your own local
- 26:01congregation right now. How well does your church
- 26:04support its lay leaders after they take on heavy
- 26:06responsibilities? Are they handed a curriculum,
- 26:09patted on the back, and left to fend for themselves?
- 26:12Or is there a structured, ongoing system of pastoral care
- 26:14for the caregivers? If the latter is missing,
- 26:17burnout is inevitable. If we connect this to the bigger
- 26:20picture of Reformed theology, Marshall's text provides a
- 26:23highly practical outworking of our understanding of church
- 26:26government. We believe in a dedicated
- 26:28plurality of well trained, theologically sound elders and
- 26:32leaders. We do not believe the church is
- 26:34a business to be run by a single CEO who barks orders from the
- 26:37top. Nor do we believe it is an
- 26:39unorganized collective where everyone just does what is right
- 26:42in their own eyes. We believe in ordered biblical
- 26:45polity. Marshall is showing us that
- 26:47achieving that beautiful biblical order requires a
- 26:50massive investment of time by the pastoral staff.
- 26:53It requires identifying, training, and continuously
- 26:56shepherding the lay leaders who will carry the burden of the
- 26:59ministry alongside them. It is a slow, laborious process
- 27:02of life on life discipleship. It is not flashy.
- 27:05It does not draw massive crowds on its own.
- 27:07But it builds a church that can withstand the storms of cultural
- 27:10compromise and internal division.
- 27:12That is the central truth we must take away from all these
- 27:14sources. Today God uses equipped people,
- 27:17not institutional programs, to accomplish His will.
- 27:20In the local church, programs are just empty scaffolding.
- 27:24The actual building is made of living stones.
- 27:27It is made of people who have been taught the Word of God, who
- 27:30have been shown how to apply it, and who are supported as they
- 27:33teach it to others. If a church gets the selection
- 27:36and the training right, the programs will naturally take
- 27:38care of themselves. The scaffolding will support the
- 27:41building rather than becoming the object of our worship.
- 27:45As we wrap up this analysis, I want to leave you with a final
- 27:48provocative thought to consider on your own.
- 27:50It builds directly on Marshall's radical thought experiment.
- 27:54If your church were to completely erase its schedule in
- 27:56its entire program roster tomorrow morning, if every
- 27:59committee, every event, and every traditional gathering was
- 28:02wiped off the calendar, what hidden God-given skills within
- 28:05your congregation would suddenly become visible?
- 28:09And how would recognizing those specific human resources
- 28:11completely alter the way your local body functions and cares
- 28:14for one another? Thank you for joining us for
- 28:16this deep dive on Reformed thinking.