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INTERVIEW: Tyshawn Jones On Being The First Black Pro Skateboarder,Louis Vuitton; Virgil Abloh, Tony Hawk +More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning.
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Speaker 3: Everybody is the j n V Jess hilarious charlamage the guy.
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Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club low on the roster filling
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Speaker 3: in for Jess. And we got a special guest in
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Speaker 3: the building. Yes, indeed we have tie Sewan Jones on
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Speaker 3: the sheet that says he is the first black professional
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Speaker 3: skateboard Is that true?
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Speaker 1: No, that's what I said. But you are a professional skateboarder?
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Speaker 4: Correct? Correct?
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Speaker 2: Now how do you.
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Speaker 1: Get to a quote unquote professional skateboarder title?
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Speaker 4: Uh? Well, I always explain it to people like music,
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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, or not not like music,
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Speaker 4: like basketball. So there's phases. There's three phases. First you
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Speaker 4: go flow, let's say that's like high school basketball. Then
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Speaker 4: you go amateur that's college, and then you go pro
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Speaker 4: that's NBA okay.
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Speaker 1: And what makes you pro?
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Speaker 4: Is it it's just a company of board company has
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Speaker 4: to turn you pro?
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Speaker 2: Got you?
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Speaker 4: So like that's the way the culture is, Like your
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Speaker 4: skateboard company is who determines when you go pro?
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Speaker 5: And is your company like an agency or is it
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Speaker 5: just like a governing company that looks at like what
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Speaker 5: you've been doing like track record competitions or no, it's like.
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Speaker 4: A company that, like you would be sponsored by this
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Speaker 4: individual one. So like I don't know, like I'm trying
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Speaker 4: to explain it in a way that child maybe remember,
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Speaker 4: Like you remember like Zu York yep, so Zuo York
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Speaker 4: is a skateboard company or was previously. They don't. I
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Speaker 4: don't think they make skateboards anymore. But Zu York would
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Speaker 4: turn you pro if you response about them, So that'd
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Speaker 4: be like basically like your team picking you up to
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Speaker 4: go to the A.
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Speaker 6: And it's a very lucrative business. That's why I understand
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Speaker 6: why more people don't, you know, get involved in it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's lucrative and as like certain people,
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Speaker 4: it's wishy washy. Some people get paid, some people don't
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Speaker 4: really get paid. It's kind of like it depends is
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Speaker 4: it just depends who you are, and I guess your image.
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Speaker 6: I first heard of about you sadly through some drama
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Speaker 6: when you got kicked in Paris.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, here you're pro skateboarder Tasha Jones kicked
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Speaker 4: off his bike by screenshle riding in Paris.
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Speaker 2: Then when I thought it, I'm like, oh, he's black.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was very interesting occurrence.
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Speaker 2: Why was that? What did did you ever find out
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Speaker 2: what that was about?
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Speaker 4: So I never told the full story. I just kind
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Speaker 4: of put it on Instagram because it was funny to me.
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Speaker 4: I was like, because people like you know that, like
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Speaker 4: when stuff happens, it's like people can't is not gonna
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Speaker 4: believe this if I tell him, like so, and it
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Speaker 4: just so happened. My agent got a video. He's not
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Speaker 4: my agent, he's my team manager for Adidas. I'm sponsored
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Speaker 4: by Dida.
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Speaker 2: So oh, I thought it was just a random person
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Speaker 2: who I got.
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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna tell you the full story. So and
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Speaker 4: usually I'm deep, like I'm with like a bunch of
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Speaker 4: my friends and we we was in Paris. We go
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Speaker 4: eat or we go into the shows and stuff. We
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Speaker 4: tend we ride around the bikes. The one I'm alone,
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Speaker 4: I'm not well not alone, but I'm just with somebody
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Speaker 4: who's not about that life at all. So I'm with
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Speaker 4: my team manager from Adidas and he's like, let's go
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Speaker 4: get breakfast and I'm like okay, and he's like let's ride.
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Speaker 4: I'm like, he's like, you want to take a cab?
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Speaker 4: Like no, let's just ride bikes. His Paris traffic is crazy,
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Speaker 4: So he get downstairs, we grab the bikes. We're riding
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Speaker 4: the bikes and we get like two blocks from the
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Speaker 4: hotel and I'm wearing the Victor Victor hoodie. You know,
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Speaker 4: Steve is my manager, so he deals with Steven. So
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Speaker 4: he's like, I'm going to film you because I'm going
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Speaker 4: to send Steven a video you wearing the hoodie. But
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Speaker 4: before he started filming me, I have my skateboard and
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Speaker 4: I have I have a bag in my hand. So
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Speaker 4: like in Paris, the bikes they're not like city bikes,
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Speaker 4: like they don't have a strap. So I have the
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Speaker 4: skateboard in the bucket and I'm holding the bike with
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Speaker 4: my other hands, so like my, like my, what's the word.
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Speaker 4: I'm looking for my balance. So I'm like I'm biking
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Speaker 4: kind of slow. And then there's this guy is like
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Speaker 4: trailing me, and I'm like I'm like, I'm like, yo,
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Speaker 4: go in front of me, bro like you see, I'm
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Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, go around. I got
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Speaker 4: like a lot of stuff in my hands. So he
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Speaker 4: comes to the side of me and we're like face
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Speaker 4: to face and he's like he's like, you're fucking American
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Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah blah, like you get in my
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Speaker 4: country da da da da American accent. Okay, So my
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Speaker 4: team manager from Adidas is behind me.
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Speaker 1: He's filming.
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Speaker 4: He's no, he's not filming at this point. He's just
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Speaker 4: like behind me, and I look at him and I
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Speaker 4: give him a look like I look back at him
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Speaker 4: because he know like I'm not going for that. So
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Speaker 4: we look at each other. He's like, please talk, Sean no,
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Speaker 4: and I'm like and I look back at the guy.
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Speaker 4: He's like screaming at me, and I'm like, get out
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Speaker 4: of my face or is it going to be an issue?
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Speaker 4: And then he's still going and I'm like, so I
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Speaker 4: kind of just like push him away from me, like
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Speaker 4: I give him like I'm like move. He bikes off,
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Speaker 4: so whatever. We're like, we're just biking that bike like
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Speaker 4: five blocks down, like the full videos like a minute long.
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Speaker 4: We're biking and the guy must have biked off waited
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Speaker 4: to the side, and I'm like we get like six
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Speaker 4: blocks down and I'm just like biking. I'm just going
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Speaker 4: to get breakfast with my team manager from Adidas, who's
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Speaker 4: like a German guy who's like the most peaceful guy
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Speaker 4: in the world. And this guy, I just get kicked
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Speaker 4: off the bike. I don't know, I'm just biking. I
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Speaker 4: just fall on the floor. So I'm like, what the
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Speaker 4: fuck just happened? And then I get up and I
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Speaker 4: see the guy like zooming on the bike. So then
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Speaker 4: I look at my team manager and I'm like it's over,
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Speaker 4: Like I'm I don't want to hear nothing, like I'm
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Speaker 4: going to get him. So I grabbed my bike and
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Speaker 4: I started chasing him. But you know, we're from New York,
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Speaker 4: so you no, no not that he has like one
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Speaker 4: of those bikes with like the like a throt or,
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Speaker 4: so it's way faster than my bike. So I'm trying
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Speaker 4: to get him.
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Speaker 7: It was like a movie, like I see him, but
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Speaker 7: he's like fading away and he makes it right and
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Speaker 7: when I get to the corner, let's say ten seconds later,
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Speaker 7: it's like three ways.
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Speaker 4: It's like this way, this way, or this way, so
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Speaker 4: I'm like which way he fucking go? So then I
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Speaker 4: just go straight and I don't see him, and I'm like,
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Speaker 4: oh my god. And then I was like people like
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Speaker 4: like like I was biking I'm like trying to find
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Speaker 4: this guy. Someone's like, yo, what's up tie show? And
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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, someone's gonna see me like
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Speaker 4: fighting this guy in Paris. I couldn't find him, so
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Speaker 4: I had to give up. No, No, it was funny.
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Speaker 2: Pushed him first.
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Speaker 4: I mean I didn't push him for he I mean,
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Speaker 4: it wasn't like I was just like get out of
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Speaker 4: my face. I wasn't like I didn't start him. I
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Speaker 4: was like, you know, you and my you know, somebody
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Speaker 4: coming up to you and they screaming at you gonna
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Speaker 4: be like yo, just like back up what you doing.
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Speaker 4: It wasn't like I was like, you know cause I
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Speaker 4: didn't want to be on that type of time and
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Speaker 4: with you know, so.
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Speaker 2: He laid and waited for you. Yeah, yeah, you miss
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Speaker 2: a skateboard to kick pushing.
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Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 4: You know how many calls I got like yo, you
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Speaker 4: allowed that to happen. I'm like, are you like, come
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Speaker 4: on bro? Like that that didn't go down the way
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Speaker 4: and look. But then when I got to breakfast and
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Speaker 4: he showed me the video, I was like air dropped
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Speaker 4: me that, Like I have to post that, Like it
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Speaker 4: was just too funny. Like sometimes you have to laugh
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Speaker 4: at yourself, like I don't take myself that serious, and
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Speaker 4: I'll be like, like, it's nothing, I gonna do what.
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go around Paris and look for this guy.
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Speaker 6: So when you said why would you do that, you
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Speaker 6: didn't realize it was the guy you had just got into.
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Speaker 2: It at first.
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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I was playing. I was strolling. Oh no,
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Speaker 4: I was just messing around. I knew why he did it.
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Speaker 4: I mean, even though I didn't think, you know, I
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Speaker 4: really did anything to him. He started with me. He
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Speaker 4: was cursing at me and like screaming at me in French,
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Speaker 4: calling me an f an American. But yeah, that's the
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Speaker 4: full story for the world.
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Speaker 3: How did you get into skateboarding? When did you think
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Speaker 3: it was gonna be a business? Because you know, most
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Speaker 3: people know they skateboard, they ride bikes for fun as
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Speaker 3: a kid. But when did you say, oh, this is
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Speaker 3: a business, is gonna be my life.
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Speaker 4: So I'll tell you the story how I got into skateboarding.
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Speaker 4: It's really funny. Actually, so my brother at the time,
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Speaker 4: he's still my brother, but we're not cool. That's another
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Speaker 4: funny story. But he we were at his cousin at
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Speaker 4: his grandmother's house and her nieces and nephew lived there.
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Speaker 4: And remember those TVs that like was kind of built
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Speaker 4: it not TVs, but it'll be a TV and it's
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Speaker 4: like like the the speakers and stuff speakers, and then
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Speaker 4: it had like cabinets we can put stuff exactly. And
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Speaker 4: then it had remember like the CD things, the books
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Speaker 4: you could open up.
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Speaker 1: You remember.
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Speaker 2: Exactly.
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Speaker 4: So it was one of those they had that, and
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Speaker 4: they just had a bunch of video games in it,
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Speaker 4: and we wanted it, and we knew they wouldn't like
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Speaker 4: ask us. I mean, they wouldn't give it to us,
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Speaker 4: so we were like, let's take it. So we took
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Speaker 4: like a couple of video games and uh put it
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Speaker 4: in my private parts so like if they started looking
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Speaker 4: for it, they wouldn't know where.
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Speaker 2: You don't know what you make stealings sound like. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it was just cool. I just took it like we
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Speaker 2: were kids.
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Speaker 4: We were kids. We were like no, I was like nah,
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Speaker 4: he was probably thir teen, So we took I took
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Speaker 4: the We took the video games, and one of them
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Speaker 4: happened to be a skateboarding game, not to not Tony Hawk,
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Speaker 4: It's called skate It was just called skate. They have
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Speaker 4: Skate one, Skate two, Skate three, and they they're finally
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Speaker 4: making a new one after like a decade. So I
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Speaker 4: started playing the video games, and when I played the game,
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Speaker 4: we were like, I was like, really in the video games,
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Speaker 4: we didn't really go outside. I lived in Jersey at
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Speaker 4: this time, and I learned about skateboarding kind of like
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Speaker 4: the tricks and stuff from playing the video game. And
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Speaker 4: one day it was like summer, my mom came home
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Speaker 4: and she was like, all, y'all do is play the
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Speaker 4: video game? Like y'all need to go outside? And I
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Speaker 4: was We were like, we don't have no money. So
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Speaker 4: she gave us like sixty dollars each and then we
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Speaker 4: walked the target and bought skateboards. And then from there
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Speaker 4: I just kept skating and skating, and I was probably
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Speaker 4: like nine ten at the time. I didn't really know
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Speaker 4: I could maybe make money off of it. Till I
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Speaker 4: was like fourteen, I started getting paid. Yeah, what's Upbreme?
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Speaker 5: Before you said with Supreme, what was your connection to
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Speaker 5: like fashion and like the arts, because I think you
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Speaker 5: talked about people in your uh in skateboard and make
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Speaker 5: money based off of kind of like your look and
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Speaker 5: kind of like the brand people know you for, like
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Speaker 5: your look, your brand, your fashion as well too, Like
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Speaker 5: what was that connection before you started getting too brand news.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm raised in New York, I'm Bronx Harlem,
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Speaker 4: so I feel like, just like styling, all of that
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Speaker 4: has been around. So just watching my family and stuff
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Speaker 4: grow up, I was always getting fly and stuff, so
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Speaker 4: I feel like my mom always kept me in like
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Speaker 4: good clothes and stuff, so I will always have like
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Speaker 4: cool gear to skating. And then I guess that you know,
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Speaker 4: potentially uh moved on into me skating in it and
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Speaker 4: then getting noticed and then yeah, how.
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Speaker 6: Did you convince you your mom that you know this
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Speaker 6: could actually be a profession.
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Speaker 4: I had to beg her, honestly. I remember when the
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Speaker 4: first deals was coming around, even signing was supreme, Like
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Speaker 4: the money was so small. Like she was like, they're
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Speaker 4: trying to play you that you look up on Google
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Speaker 4: they were I think at the time it was forty
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Speaker 4: million definitely for me. Yeah, she was like, they're not
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Speaker 4: about to play my son. Da da da da, And
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Speaker 4: I used to like cry. I had to beg her,
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Speaker 4: like just please trust me, like I'm not doing this
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Speaker 4: for money. I would do it for free, like this
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Speaker 4: is like it's gonna come. I just have to like
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Speaker 4: build my name. I knew that if I like grind
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Speaker 4: it one day, I could potentially make money and like
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Speaker 4: make some some real money. But it wasn't really about
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Speaker 4: the money to me at that time. You know, I
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Speaker 4: was just young, and I was like, I would do
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Speaker 4: this for free, so you know, I just needed the opportunity.
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Speaker 6: I love stories like this because you know, I always say,
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Speaker 6: you just got to listen to your kids, and your
11:39
Speaker 6: kids will tell you exactly what it is that they
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Speaker 6: want to do. So you was playing this skate game
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Speaker 6: and then when you got this money, you went out
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Speaker 6: and you bought this skateboard.
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Speaker 2: Like what was in your mind.
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Speaker 6: Like what was on your spirit that said, I know,
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Speaker 6: this is what I want to do for the rest
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Speaker 6: of my Like this is what's going to change the
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Speaker 6: trajectory in my life.
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Speaker 4: Well, I remember it was like a definitive moment where
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Speaker 4: I like made a decision and I was young. I
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Speaker 4: wanted to be a wrestler and I wanted to be
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Speaker 4: Spider Man too, Like that's what I was into. Like
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Speaker 4: I used to have, like I used to like really
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Speaker 4: like Spider Man. I thought that that was a profession
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Speaker 4: and Peter Parker, Nah, Toby Maguire, that was that was that, yeah,
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Speaker 4: Peter Parker. And then I wanted to be a wrestler
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Speaker 4: as well. And then but I was skating, so I
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Speaker 4: would like. I was like, my mom was like, which
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Speaker 4: one are you good to be? And then I was
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Speaker 4: just like we moved back to the Bronx and I
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Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I'm gonna just skate like that was
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Speaker 4: the most fun to me, and I just stuck with that.
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Speaker 6: So yeah, and it was a period where it's like
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Speaker 6: hip hop really, I guess kind of made skateboarding. I
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Speaker 6: guess I'm not cool, or maybe we would. I'm not
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Speaker 6: gonna say cool because it was already cool, but when
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Speaker 6: the hip hop artist started doing it, it kind of
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Speaker 6: made it easier for you as a black kid.
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Speaker 4: Yeah right, Yeah, for sure. I feel like growing up
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Speaker 4: in the Bronx and stuff, people be like make references
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Speaker 4: Tony Hawk obviously well skated low Wayne.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I feel like but even though like Loop A, he's known,
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Speaker 4: but I feel like certain people where I'm from, at
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Speaker 4: least I'm not gonna say they don't know Loupe, but
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Speaker 4: that that's not like first to mine, Like they would
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Speaker 4: probably be like yeah, like Wayne and they would say push,
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Speaker 4: But I don't I don't think they put two and
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Speaker 4: two together, like you know what I'm saying, Like, I
13:28
Speaker 4: don't know if they even know who sing that song.
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Speaker 4: It was just more like a famous song.
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Speaker 2: What did that do for skateboarding culture from your perspective.
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Speaker 4: I mean that was already like out, so I didn't
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Speaker 4: see it firsthand. But I don't think skateboarding was accepted
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Speaker 4: where I grew up, Like it was like people used
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Speaker 4: to just like kind of laugh and thought it was
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Speaker 4: like funny that I skated, but I was into it.
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Speaker 4: But I remember I kind of lived like two lives,
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Speaker 4: like because you know, I grew up in New York
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Speaker 4: and like having like family and streets and stuff, so
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Speaker 4: they always kept me fly. So when I would go
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Speaker 4: to school, I would wear like Jordans and like stuff
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Speaker 4: like that. But then I would go home and like
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Speaker 4: put on my skate clothes, and it was kind of
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Speaker 4: like I had a double life. Like I would go
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Speaker 4: to school in the Bronx and like this crazy environment
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Speaker 4: and then I would like go home change my clothes
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Speaker 4: take the train all the way downtown, and it was
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Speaker 4: like a different world from me. Like it was white people,
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Speaker 4: Asian people, all different type of races just brought together
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Speaker 4: by skateboard and it's not really like color and skateboarding,
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Speaker 4: Like it's just like everybody kind of having fun, so
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Speaker 4: that it.
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Speaker 1: Was into it a lot too. Like I would always
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Speaker 1: see I feel like that people always thought.
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Speaker 2: Skateboarders was soft.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I would always see skateboard as fuck somebody
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Speaker 3: up all the time. The skateboards beat somebody's ass and
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Speaker 3: beat somebody's car.
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Speaker 2: Did y'all always get in.
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Speaker 3: The problems of trouble when people thought y'all were soft
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Speaker 3: or cut y'all off or.
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Speaker 4: If it's sure, definitely, I think like people don't associate
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Speaker 4: skateboar board and like being tough. But you know, it's
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Speaker 4: just like that's anything. You know. I'm not saying that
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Speaker 4: people walk around like I'm a tough guy, but nigga's
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Speaker 4: not soft. It's just like, but like a skateboard is
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Speaker 4: a weapon. If you hit somebody with a weapon, Like
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Speaker 4: I've known people who hit people with skateboards and like
15:16
Speaker 4: put them in a coma, Like you don't even play
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Speaker 4: with that, Like it's like a metal object that could
15:21
Speaker 4: really hurt somebody. So that's like if you have to
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Speaker 4: do that. But obviously, like you see in kids, they
15:27
Speaker 4: hit the guy with the skateboard and stuff. It's happened,
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Speaker 4: but it's really dangerous.
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Speaker 6: It's funny too. You said you used to get fly,
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Speaker 6: but then you go home and dress like a skater.
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Speaker 6: But there was a time where that was getting fly
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Speaker 6: for some people.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I remember the transition. Like at first,
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Speaker 4: like I used to wear a state skates like skate stuff,
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Speaker 4: and they would be like, that's like you look like
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Speaker 4: a white boy or whatever. But then it kind of
15:48
Speaker 4: like got popular, you know, with like streetwear and all
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Speaker 4: that stuff, and then it was more accepted. So it
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Speaker 4: was funny to see the transition. But it's dope when
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Speaker 4: you know. To me, some skaters don't like it when
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Speaker 4: they feel like people come into the culture, but I
16:03
Speaker 4: think it's cool. It brings more odds to the sport
16:06
Speaker 4: and all of that stuff.
16:07
Speaker 5: So it was Virgil. I read that Virgil. You and
16:10
Speaker 5: Virgil Ablow had a really good relationship. Yeah, we were
16:12
Speaker 5: cool taking a streetwear.
16:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we were actually working on something before he
16:17
Speaker 4: passed away. It never came to light. But yeah, virtual
16:21
Speaker 4: was cool. We would talk and we were going to
16:25
Speaker 4: do a collaboration with my brand and off White that
16:29
Speaker 4: we were working on. But yeah, his untimely demise, Yeah,
16:34
Speaker 4: it never came out.
16:35
Speaker 6: When stuff like that happens, do you just let the
16:37
Speaker 6: whole idea die?
16:38
Speaker 2: Do you?
16:39
Speaker 4: I mean I really didn't have a I didn't know
16:41
Speaker 4: what to do, you know at that time was it
16:44
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one. I remember my modeling agent called me
16:47
Speaker 4: and told me. But I wasn't going to be like,
16:50
Speaker 4: you know, people are grieving and stuff like that. I'm
16:52
Speaker 4: not going to reach out to his family or like, yo,
16:55
Speaker 4: we you know, sorry for your loss. But by the
16:57
Speaker 4: way we were working on it, that yeah, exactly. At
17:01
Speaker 4: that point to me, it's like, you know, they if
17:04
Speaker 4: somebody from his team knew about it and they and
17:06
Speaker 4: they reached out and was like I knew you guys
17:08
Speaker 4: were working on this, like we want to continue it.
17:11
Speaker 4: But that never happened, and it's okay, you know.
17:13
Speaker 2: Much do you have to hurt yourself to get as
17:15
Speaker 2: good as you've gotten? How many injuries, broken.
17:20
Speaker 4: Bones, knock on wood? I never really I never broke
17:23
Speaker 4: a bone, but you obviously you fall and stuff like.
17:26
Speaker 4: I just think skateboarding teaches like it's like a life lesson,
17:31
Speaker 4: Like you have to keep going to get over the hurdle,
17:34
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, if I had
17:39
Speaker 4: a dollar for every time I've heard like, yeah, I
17:41
Speaker 4: tried skateboarding once, but I fell and I quit, you
17:44
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Because people don't like to fall
17:47
Speaker 4: once or twice and then they're just like, oh, that hurt,
17:49
Speaker 4: But like, you get used to it. It's like working out.
17:51
Speaker 4: When you first start working out, your body's really sore,
17:53
Speaker 4: and you keep doing it, and you keep doing it
17:55
Speaker 4: and you get used to it and you learn you
17:57
Speaker 4: just have to like wanna you know what I'm saying,
18:00
Speaker 4: and strive to get better.
18:01
Speaker 3: I was asking, you, know, what do you do to
18:03
Speaker 3: push the limit, right, because I've seen a lot of
18:05
Speaker 3: things you did. You work with Louis Baton, right, you.
18:07
Speaker 1: With Steven Victims, arise in front of the house.
18:10
Speaker 3: I see you jump over a million dollar Ferraris in
18:12
Speaker 3: the middle of Manhattan. So what do you do to
18:15
Speaker 3: push the limit for the next generation that you know,
18:18
Speaker 3: things that we haven't seen or things that you want
18:20
Speaker 3: to do.
18:23
Speaker 4: I just think it's limitless, you know, like even like
18:26
Speaker 4: to the Ferrari. Let's just use that as an example.
18:29
Speaker 4: Like I try to when I skate I want to
18:32
Speaker 4: like make it relatable because skateboarding, to me is so
18:39
Speaker 4: what's the word. It's just like you don't understand it.
18:42
Speaker 4: You just see like somebody flying in the air. And
18:45
Speaker 4: I think that skateboarding gets like culturally, it's like accepted
18:49
Speaker 4: because people understand it's cool, and it's like the like
18:53
Speaker 4: you know, like I don't know, some people won't call
18:57
Speaker 4: it a sport, but it's the sport that like the
19:00
Speaker 4: outsiders because you do it alone. It's an individual whe
19:02
Speaker 4: like basketball or something like that. As a team and
19:05
Speaker 4: you go to a stadium and stuff like that, and
19:07
Speaker 4: it's more you could dissect it easier. Like you know,
19:09
Speaker 4: somebody's running down the court, they pass, they shoot, it's two,
19:12
Speaker 4: it's three, you know what I'm saying. Skateboard and you
19:15
Speaker 4: can't learn everything. It's impossible because there's like combos. You
19:19
Speaker 4: could jump onto this table and man, you and this that.
19:23
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So it's literally impossible to
19:25
Speaker 4: be able to do every trick, so and I think
19:27
Speaker 4: that's why I gravitated to it as well, because you know,
19:31
Speaker 4: to me, I like to keep setting a bar, but you.
19:34
Speaker 1: Still learn new tricks, you still do new things.
19:36
Speaker 4: Or oh man, it's kind of hard because I mean
19:39
Speaker 4: I try to learn new tricks. Sometimes I get new tricks,
19:42
Speaker 4: but now I'm at a point like you know, it's
19:45
Speaker 4: a gift in the curves, but I go to the
19:46
Speaker 4: skatepark and people watch me, so it's kind of like,
19:50
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's kind of like
19:52
Speaker 4: a little like weird sometimes trying to learn a trick
19:55
Speaker 4: because people look at you at this point like you're
19:58
Speaker 4: a professional, like they thinking they're mind Like you probably
20:01
Speaker 4: could just land everything. So when you're trying to like
20:03
Speaker 4: go into the like I'm trying to train, kind of
20:08
Speaker 4: vibe at like a public place and somebody might be
20:10
Speaker 4: filming you, or this is just kind of hard, you
20:12
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. You don't see you know, Luca
20:15
Speaker 4: in the park practicing, you know what I'm saying. He
20:18
Speaker 4: has a private facility where he's training and he could
20:20
Speaker 4: try to learn new things. So I'm working on that
20:24
Speaker 4: right now to try to get a private indoor skate park,
20:26
Speaker 4: so I could practice. Are there new tricks though, I
20:30
Speaker 4: mean yeah, not new tricks, but tricks you probably haven't done,
20:33
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like I mean, I'm sorry
20:37
Speaker 4: to keep referring back to basketball, but like you know,
20:39
Speaker 4: somebody might not be able to go left as easy
20:42
Speaker 4: or see what I'm saying, So they could practice that,
20:44
Speaker 4: or they can't dunk through their let you know what
20:46
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So it's impossible to know everything. You know,
20:49
Speaker 4: as good as you are, you could always progress, so
20:52
Speaker 4: you know.
20:53
Speaker 5: I know Charlotte aks about what was the LV the
20:54
Speaker 5: friend of the house thing. I told them people to
20:56
Speaker 5: explain it and for real brought you into that. Was
20:59
Speaker 5: it because of the virgin of a relationship or just
21:00
Speaker 5: because he's been like watching what you've been doing.
21:04
Speaker 4: I'm sure. I don't know if it's because of the
21:07
Speaker 4: virgin relationship. I think he's just a fan of skateboarding.
21:11
Speaker 4: He obviously skateboards. He likes the sport and the culture,
21:15
Speaker 4: and probably thought I was a good representative for the
21:19
Speaker 4: brand and bad I guess I'm sponsored by Louis Vuitton.
21:25
Speaker 4: Events with them, yeah, events close go to the shows,
21:31
Speaker 4: campaigns stuff like that.
21:33
Speaker 6: So yeah, money, black people accepted into skating, Like is
21:37
Speaker 6: it one of those things where it's.
21:39
Speaker 4: Just yeah, I think black people skate is accepted as
21:42
Speaker 4: skating for sure. I mean I don't think there's like
21:45
Speaker 4: a lot of professional black skaters maybe like twenty twenty five,
21:50
Speaker 4: but yeah, we're accepted for sure.
21:53
Speaker 6: And what's the evolution of skateboarding and really the evolution
21:57
Speaker 6: of you? Because you know what, I hear things like
21:58
Speaker 6: skateboards coming out of like with are you in that?
22:01
Speaker 2: They're gonna be.
22:03
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm in Tony Hawk coming out, so
22:08
Speaker 4: that's cool. They got a new one, a remastering, so
22:10
Speaker 4: that's about to come out. I was in the last one.
22:13
Speaker 4: The evolution of skateboard, that's a great question. I don't know.
22:16
Speaker 4: It's in the Olympics now, you know. I just think
22:19
Speaker 4: it's getting bigger and better, Like Louis Vuitton is sponsoring it.
22:22
Speaker 4: So I'm excited to see where it goes, and maybe
22:24
Speaker 4: it does get to a place where it's like a
22:27
Speaker 4: basketball or football and people really dive into it more
22:30
Speaker 4: and look at it and you know, try to understand
22:34
Speaker 4: it a little bit more. Besides just like skateboarders are
22:36
Speaker 4: cool or like have like a fashion aspect to them.
22:40
Speaker 4: So honestly, the it's unknown where it could go. I
22:44
Speaker 4: think this guy's the limit.
22:46
Speaker 6: And Tony Hawk's still the guy guy right like he
22:49
Speaker 6: is he the godfather of it.
22:51
Speaker 4: All, for sure. It's interesting we had I was having
22:54
Speaker 4: a conversation somebody. It's interesting that he's the only like
22:59
Speaker 4: he made it it like really mainstream. Like when people
23:02
Speaker 4: think of skateboarding, they refer to yeah, but it's only
23:05
Speaker 4: been one Like you don't, like imagine music, when people
23:07
Speaker 4: thought of rap, they just like Biggie Biggie. You want
23:10
Speaker 4: to be like Biggie, But there's a thousand rappers, you
23:13
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So that just goes to show
23:15
Speaker 4: like how like skateboarding is just weird in that way
23:19
Speaker 4: that it hasn't been Like everybody who's like super famous
23:24
Speaker 4: off skateboarding, they got famous doing other things. Like Tony Hawk,
23:28
Speaker 4: he's so famous because of the video games. Rob deer
23:31
Speaker 4: Deck is Rob Deardeck because he had the TV show.
23:34
Speaker 4: So I think there's always another element to like getting
23:37
Speaker 4: over to that real mainstream level, you know what I'm saying.
23:40
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody ever successfully did it just being
23:43
Speaker 4: a skateboarder.
23:44
Speaker 6: That's how you know somebody famously. I'm watching the super
23:46
Speaker 6: Bowl commercials, the DraftKings commercials.
23:48
Speaker 2: I think it was this weekend? What did this weekend?
23:50
Speaker 2: Last week? Last weekend?
23:52
Speaker 6: And it was like it was Kevin Hart was in it,
23:55
Speaker 6: the Undertaker and Emmitt Smith and Ludacris and Doctor J and.
23:59
Speaker 2: Tony Hawk, you know what I mean.
24:01
Speaker 6: And I'm just like, you don't even think about it,
24:03
Speaker 6: but that's just how famous he is.
24:04
Speaker 2: Because I'm not in the state.
24:06
Speaker 4: He's a name at this point, it's like he's he's huge.
24:09
Speaker 2: He's actually said to myself, Damn, Tony Hawk got old.
24:12
Speaker 4: Yea Tony Hawk is grown. So I mean, that's what
24:15
Speaker 4: I was when I was having a conversation with my peoples.
24:17
Speaker 4: He was like, who's going to carry that sword forward?
24:20
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that's going to be me or whatever,
24:22
Speaker 4: you know, but it would be interesting to see who's
24:25
Speaker 4: able to obtain that level next, you know what I'm saying,
24:28
Speaker 4: Who's going to be the next generation of skateboarding that
24:31
Speaker 4: the Charlemagne or the Envs like you want to be?
24:34
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because it only it only
24:37
Speaker 4: refers back to Tony Hawk.
24:38
Speaker 2: I don't even know how I know Tony Hawk.
24:40
Speaker 4: Exactly video games.
24:43
Speaker 2: I mean, he's I really don't know. I'm just I'm
24:46
Speaker 2: knowing my whole life, but I don't know. I'm like,
24:47
Speaker 2: why do I.
24:47
Speaker 4: Feel like he's like Shack at this point or like
24:49
Speaker 4: a Snoop Dogg, Like he gets like endorsements, like he's
24:52
Speaker 4: like on a I don't know, like what's the acts commercials?
24:57
Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying. So like he's like
25:00
Speaker 4: miss in like Middle America and all of these places
25:03
Speaker 4: because like they really watch TV and you know, all
25:05
Speaker 4: of those things.
25:06
Speaker 2: When do it gets you to that?
25:08
Speaker 4: I think again, it has to be another element because
25:11
Speaker 4: I think skateboarding you don't understand it. It's just flying
25:15
Speaker 4: in the sky. Are you doing a trick? Or he
25:18
Speaker 4: jumped down some stairs or oh that looked crazy? You
25:21
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. If you don't skateboard, you don't
25:22
Speaker 4: understand it, right, So.
25:25
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, do you like because it's not a
25:30
Speaker 5: lot of black skateboarders, do you ever have issues sometimes
25:33
Speaker 5: where like people are like there's discrimination, racism, like that
25:37
Speaker 5: type of thing, Like do you come up against that
25:39
Speaker 5: at all, it seems like, I mean, that seems like
25:41
Speaker 5: you're doing very well. You have all the major brands,
25:43
Speaker 5: but even with like the LV thing, you know, there's
25:45
Speaker 5: always like the push for more black in the couture spaces,
25:48
Speaker 5: but you're a couture in that world and you also skateboarder,
25:51
Speaker 5: and people always you know, we don't know much about
25:54
Speaker 5: the skateboarding.
25:57
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say like in a brand space. I mean,
25:59
Speaker 4: obviously I've experienced like weird things throughout my career. I've
26:04
Speaker 4: been in skating since I was thirteen, you know, but
26:09
Speaker 4: it was maybe from like other pro skaters, but you know,
26:11
Speaker 4: it was not like from like companies or anything. I
26:14
Speaker 4: would say, but you know, I wouldn't make it like
26:17
Speaker 4: a race thing, like oh, it's so like diverse, but
26:20
Speaker 4: certain things happen sometimes when you're in spaces and stuff,
26:25
Speaker 4: and it wasn't like anything super catastrophic, but like, you know, I.
26:29
Speaker 5: Just wonder because I don't hear much about it, Like
26:32
Speaker 5: you don't hear much about like with the NFL, there's
26:33
Speaker 5: so much conversations and NBA don't I've never heard anything. Yeah,
26:37
Speaker 5: skateboard m hm. You gotta rage against the machine.
26:41
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that if there is like
26:44
Speaker 4: skateboarding is so small that like even if there are
26:48
Speaker 4: things that did happen, people don't really want to speak
26:51
Speaker 4: up because skateboarding is like controlled by like the people,
26:56
Speaker 4: the ogs, who had the market for so long. I
27:00
Speaker 4: was like, if you come out and you're like maybe controversial,
27:04
Speaker 4: then they could just like clip you.
27:08
Speaker 6: And I love your hoodie because you know the Simpsons.
27:10
Speaker 6: That's another reason I think the skateboarding so much because
27:12
Speaker 6: of that any influence.
27:16
Speaker 4: Nah, it was really just a video game. I don't know.
27:19
Speaker 4: This was a gift from a friend. But yeah, I
27:23
Speaker 4: never really watched the Simpsons, like a couple of episodes,
27:26
Speaker 4: but yeah, yeah, yeah, that's like famous for sure.
27:32
Speaker 2: How did you connect with Stephen Victim through a friend?
27:37
Speaker 4: I called a friend and I was like, I'm looking
27:42
Speaker 4: for a Ferrari or like a sports car that I
27:46
Speaker 4: want to jump over. I was like, I know your
27:48
Speaker 4: friend has some. Do you think he would like let
27:52
Speaker 4: me rent one from him and do it. He's like,
27:55
Speaker 4: let me call you back, and I was like all right.
27:57
Speaker 4: He called me back like immediately, and he was We
28:01
Speaker 4: were on three way and he was like, so tell
28:04
Speaker 4: him what you want to do and I was like, uh,
28:07
Speaker 4: I want to like jump over your car with a skateboard.
28:10
Speaker 4: Would you let me rent it. I'll like put some insurance,
28:13
Speaker 4: like I'll put some money down in case something happens.
28:15
Speaker 4: And he was like, nah, that's what insurance is for.
28:18
Speaker 1: And I was like all right, it's crazy.
28:21
Speaker 4: And he's like he's like that sounds fire. Like let's
28:23
Speaker 4: do it. Let's meet. And my friend had been coming
28:27
Speaker 4: to New York because he was living in LA and
28:30
Speaker 4: he was like, we're going to go to his office.
28:33
Speaker 4: And then we came to his office and he was
28:35
Speaker 4: he was like, so, what do you want to do again?
28:37
Speaker 4: And I was like just telling him. Like he's like,
28:38
Speaker 4: you think you could do it? I was like yeah,
28:41
Speaker 4: I think so, like for sure. And then he's like
28:43
Speaker 4: all right, we're going to set it up this week
28:45
Speaker 4: and then like three days later we made it happen.
28:47
Speaker 4: It was just something I wanted to do, like I
28:49
Speaker 4: just have, you know, random ideas.
28:53
Speaker 3: Like that wasn't a typical Ferrari because one a very
28:57
Speaker 3: few to call a friend who gets Stephen Victor on
28:59
Speaker 3: the phone about probably four million right now, it has
29:04
Speaker 3: no top. It's it's one of those ones that there
29:07
Speaker 3: is no fixing it.
29:08
Speaker 1: You fucked that up.
29:10
Speaker 2: It's a rat But it was.
29:11
Speaker 4: But that's why you say. You make it sound like that.
29:13
Speaker 4: But it was innocent. It wasn't like so premeditated, like
29:17
Speaker 4: I wanted to do it, but I didn't know that
29:19
Speaker 4: it was gonna be like that. You know what I'm saying,
29:21
Speaker 4: Like I didn't know, not even just the car. I
29:23
Speaker 4: didn't know that, like people would gravitate to it so crazy.
29:26
Speaker 4: I thought, you know what I'm saying, but it resonates
29:28
Speaker 4: you know exactly how I said, Like you don't know tricks,
29:31
Speaker 4: but you know that car. You get what I'm saying.
29:33
Speaker 4: So in your mind you like, oh shit, he just
29:35
Speaker 4: jumped over a four million dollar car. You know what
29:38
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
29:38
Speaker 1: The way I first saw it, I just thought it
29:40
Speaker 1: was the car was parking.
29:41
Speaker 2: You just did it roll.
29:42
Speaker 4: Yeah.
29:42
Speaker 3: Then when I found out that, I said, Steven is crazy. Yeah,
29:45
Speaker 3: I don't know what he got too much money.
29:47
Speaker 2: For all that.
29:47
Speaker 6: Basically, Stephen Victor, charge you ten to fifteen percent for
29:50
Speaker 6: the rest of your life.
29:54
Speaker 4: We made up. We made a moment. You know, it's
29:56
Speaker 4: trying to make more.
29:59
Speaker 3: We appreciate thank you for joining us. Thank you so much, man,
30:02
Speaker 3: appreciate it. Thank you for having me, keeping couraging kids.
30:05
Speaker 2: Man. And I'm gonna be honest with you.
30:06
Speaker 6: You the only skateboarder I know right now, so I'm
30:09
Speaker 6: gonna be watching you and in my mind you Tony Hawk.
30:12
Speaker 6: So when I bring up skateboard now, I'm yeah, tas
30:15
Speaker 6: Shawn jonesilling it out here.
30:17
Speaker 2: That's right.
30:18
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me. And
30:19
Speaker 4: it's a real full circle moment. I'm not gonna I
30:21
Speaker 4: watched Breakfast Club on YouTube, like I'll be on YouTube
30:24
Speaker 4: when I go home and I watch you got stuff.
30:26
Speaker 4: So I really appreciate you having me.
30:28
Speaker 3: I was gonna bring a skateboard to see if you
30:29
Speaker 3: could teach us all a trick, but we're too old
30:32
Speaker 3: for that.
30:32
Speaker 6: We hurt.
30:33
Speaker 4: When I get hurt, me get back when I get this,
30:35
Speaker 4: when I get the skate park, y'all come through.
30:37
Speaker 1: Say no more.
30:38
Speaker 2: It's ta Shawn Jones.
30:39
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.
30:40
Speaker 2: Good morning, Wake that ass up in the morning. The
30:43
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club