Latest / Unbalanced with Cerys Davage / 79. More than Duchenne (ft. Conor McAuley)
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- 0:10Hello everyone, welcome back to another episode of Unbalanced
- 0:14with me, Kara Savage. I hope you're all doing well.
- 0:17I'm excited to get to know Connor today.
- 0:19Connor all the way from Ireland. Hello, how are you?
- 0:22I'm good, I'm good. I'm delighted to be on here and
- 0:25thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it.
- 0:27It's really cool. First Irish guest, am I right?
- 0:31Very excited. That's really cool.
- 0:33That's good to know. You're representing that
- 0:35community for us, but you're also representing another
- 0:38community today, the Duchenne muscular dystrophy community.
- 0:42Please tell me a bit about yourself.
- 0:44Where are you from and what do you do?
- 0:47Yeah, so I'm Connor. I'm a 24 year old man from
- 0:50Ireland and I live about 40 minutes outside of Dublin.
- 0:54And because I know a lot of people know where Dublin is,
- 0:56like I love my music, I love being outdoors and I love
- 0:59getting for like a swim when I can.
- 1:01And I do love sports. I'm a massive Liverpro fan, but
- 1:05I'm also a content creator and a disability activist.
- 1:08So I sort of share my own story on social media to raise
- 1:13awareness about Duchenne muscular dystrophy.
- 1:15And I hope and I fight for the rights of people with physical
- 1:20disabilities. Amazing.
- 1:21That's naturally how we met. Of course, the disability
- 1:24community online is a huge place to be, and I'm so glad that our
- 1:29paths have crossed because I really, really enjoyed your
- 1:32content and I'm really looking forward to diving into that.
- 1:35But first of all, what is Duchenne muscular dystrophy?
- 1:38For those who don't know, can you give us a brief overview of
- 1:41it? Of course.
- 1:43So Duchenne muscular dystrophy. It's a progressive muscle
- 1:46wasting disease and it's caused by the mutation in the
- 1:49dystrophin gene. It can be inherited from a
- 1:51mother who is a carrier, or it can happen randomly, and that
- 1:54happened in my case randomly. And so some people call it
- 1:58fluke. It doesn't only affect the
- 2:00muscles though, it can also affect learning and or their
- 2:04abilities such as attention span and verbal memory and sort of
- 2:08like emotional processing. And then there's also a higher
- 2:12chance of having ADHD, autism and anxiety when you have douche
- 2:18and not all of them but you know either one or the other.
- 2:22Gosh, so it really is kind of like a double whammy in a way.
- 2:25Like you've you've got this, but you may have a lot of other
- 2:28things as well. Yeah, exactly.
- 2:30Yeah, that's the thing. Wow, OK.
- 2:32How were you diagnosed? Like what kind of age were you?
- 2:34Well, for me, I was 3 1/2 and when I finally got a diagnosis
- 2:39back in 2005, and it was sort of like a long journey for me to
- 2:43get diagnosed. And it started when my mother
- 2:46noticed I was struggling with things like getting up from the
- 2:49floor and I would naturally just grab onto furniture and I also
- 2:53walked on my toes. I also had like speech
- 2:56difficulties and I couldn't pronounce certain words.
- 2:58And so with all that stuff happening and my mother, she
- 3:03brought me to various doctors and for it was about a period of
- 3:07a year, but many of the doctors that she brought me to, they
- 3:11would just say I was lazy, especially because I actually
- 3:14have a twin sister. And they taught that true,
- 3:18having a twin sister, that I just relied on her too much and
- 3:21I was getting her to do all the work.
- 3:23But eventually my CK levels were checked and they were way above
- 3:30the normal range. And that's sort of how the
- 3:33doctors realised that it was Duchenne.
- 3:36Wow, OK, that's so interesting that you're a twin.
- 3:40I'm sure like I mean, you'll naturally have that rivalry in
- 3:44that competition anyway with siblings, let alone with this as
- 3:48well. Can you tell us a bit about
- 3:49growing up with Duchenne and your kind of experiences of it?
- 3:53I mean, your symptoms sound very like muscular dystrophy has very
- 3:57like typical of it as someone also with muscular dystrophy.
- 4:01So yeah, I'm intrigued to to know how you found, you know,
- 4:06growing up with it and especially in relation with your
- 4:09sister as well. Yeah, I think for me, growing up
- 4:12with Duchenne, it was tough. I faced many like barriers and
- 4:16hurdles. But as a kid, I honestly don't
- 4:19remember a lot. I think to be honest, I've sort
- 4:21of like blocked out a lot, so that's a pity.
- 4:24But I think my memory sort of started from when I was a
- 4:26teenager. So one of my biggest challenges
- 4:29was sort of accepting that I had Duchenne.
- 4:32I, I didn't feel like I fit in with others who had the
- 4:34condition and because health wise I was doing better than
- 4:38many of them. And so that made me sort of
- 4:40question whether I actually had Duchenne or muscular dystrophy
- 4:43at all. So I massed my symptoms really a
- 4:46lot at that age to try fit in. It's, you know, a big thing at
- 4:50that age to try fit in. So I really didn't overcome that
- 4:54obstacle overnight. I think I've sort of accepted
- 4:56that as time has gone on. But in relation to my twin
- 4:59sister, we're very different. And so Caitlin is her name.
- 5:03And yeah, it was really tough growing up because when we went
- 5:09into secondary school, we were actually in the same school and
- 5:11it was a mixed school. And so me and her could have
- 5:15classes together or, and she would be friends with people
- 5:18that I was friends with. So yeah, for me it was tough
- 5:21because sometimes I could see, you know, people found it easier
- 5:24with her than they did me and just because I had a disability.
- 5:27So yeah, it was this hard thing of sometimes being jealous in
- 5:31the sense of her, which, you know, at the time was a big
- 5:34thing in my mind. But yeah, it it was tough
- 5:37because she could do, you know, the sports and everything, and I
- 5:40couldn't. So yeah, it was this weird
- 5:42rivalry and jealousy at times as well.
- 5:44But we have, you know, a really good relationship now.
- 5:47So that's the main thing. I think, you know, these things
- 5:51just make it who you are today, so.
- 5:53Absolutely, and it's never a linear journey to accepting
- 5:57yourself. Even though I'm really open with
- 6:00talking about my experiences, I'd say I'm still on that
- 6:03journey. It's, it's not, I don't think
- 6:05there's ever an end point. You know, there are still some
- 6:07days where I'm so ashamed of my disability and I really just
- 6:12want to hide it as much as possible.
- 6:13I don't want people to know about it.
- 6:15And I'm sure, you know, many people listening can relate as
- 6:18well. So it is definitely, you know,
- 6:22an up and down kind of roller coaster journey.
- 6:25But yeah, just finding this community has really helped me
- 6:28just accept it a bit more because I don't know about you,
- 6:31but I didn't know anyone else really my age with a a
- 6:34disability growing up. Yeah, for me actually, we have
- 6:38in Ireland, muscular dystrophy Ireland.
- 6:40So it's like MDUK, but our version and so true that we
- 6:45actually had clubs and when we were kids and we would go to
- 6:47them and be me and my sisters and we'd go and meet other
- 6:51people with similar or the same disability as me.
- 6:55So that was really interesting. But for me actually that caused
- 7:00me to be a bit confused because true, me and those people, I
- 7:03would see that they had Duchenne, but it was health wise
- 7:07they weren't as well as I was. So it was just this weird thing
- 7:10of like, OK, you know, I can relate to these people in a way,
- 7:14but I can't in another way. And it quite scared me because I
- 7:17was only a young kid and I didn't understand, you know,
- 7:20exactly what was going on. And so, yeah, I didn't know
- 7:23people. But in, in a way, it actually
- 7:26for me made it worse. And to see people who were
- 7:31struggling more than me because it made me feel, you know, like
- 7:35I'm lucky in a way. And, you know, I, I have all
- 7:37this going for me. And, you know, sometimes I did
- 7:40suffer with depression. So for me, it actually made me
- 7:43think, OK, you know, I have all this going for me.
- 7:45And then there's me complaining. And so it was this weird like
- 7:47battle between myself. But as I've grown up by sort of
- 7:51accepting my condition. And it wasn't up until 2020 when
- 7:55I started my, you know, Instagram, TikTok and stuff like
- 7:58that. And that's when I actually
- 8:00started to make, you know, real connections within the
- 8:02community. And it's been a really help, a
- 8:04big help since then. Yeah.
- 8:06Oh, absolutely. I agree.
- 8:08I just felt like I was going through this experience alone
- 8:11until I found the online community.
- 8:13And I'm, I'm surprised I didn't find it sooner.
- 8:15I'm kind of annoyed at myself I didn't find it sooner because
- 8:18like, it seems that we've all had the same kind of experience,
- 8:21you know, trying to fit in. And then I know a lot of people
- 8:24have, you know, been kind of grouped together with different
- 8:28charities or, you know, different communities, but maybe
- 8:32it's not quite worked out or whatever.
- 8:34And I guess I just didn't really want to know when I was younger,
- 8:38you know, I just, I didn't want to be classed as disabled.
- 8:41And because my muscular dystrophy is progressive, I
- 8:45wasn't, I didn't count myself as disabled back then.
- 8:48So I was like, that's, that's a future thing.
- 8:50That's a future problem. But now I guess we're here and,
- 8:54you know, I guess it's better to accept it.
- 8:57Yeah, exactly. Like you try to fight something
- 8:59for so long and, you know, you're just not going to win, so
- 9:01you have to just accept your life and just, you know, go with
- 9:03it. And that's what I always say.
- 9:05I think for me as well, like even when I was younger, I think
- 9:08that was the thing, you know, I was being grouped in with people
- 9:11and I wasn't fully comfortable with having a disability myself.
- 9:14So it was like this thing of like, you have this condition
- 9:18and you're meant to be this way, but I was not that way at all.
- 9:20So it was like this weird thing of like, I needed a couple of
- 9:23years to get comfortable with it.
- 9:24And then when I did, it was like, I found this community.
- 9:27And yeah, as you say, like, it's progressive.
- 9:30So you're like, OK, you know, I won't need that until a certain
- 9:32time in my life. But I feel like when I did find
- 9:35that, you know, I found at the right time.
- 9:38That's good. I'm really glad to hear.
- 9:40And it's the same with mobility aids as well.
- 9:42You know, you've not only got your disability, you've also got
- 9:45like the visual side of it as well and using mobility aids,
- 9:49which I do want to get into because you said that your
- 9:53sister was always known as the sporty one, but you are really
- 9:56into sports. So I'm, you know, it's it's
- 9:59great to see that you're not letting your disability hold you
- 10:02back, which I think is it still a huge stereotype that needs to
- 10:06be smashed in a way. And tell us a bit about that
- 10:09your sports journey. Yeah, so for me, like, you know,
- 10:12I always grew up and I liked sports and I sort of stopped in
- 10:17a sense, like myself, like liking them up until I was about
- 10:2012 or 13 when I sort of became comfortable, more so with
- 10:24watching sports than actually, you know, having to like play
- 10:27them. So for me, I'm like a big
- 10:29Liverpool fan and I've been over there to Liverpool about 12 or
- 10:3213 Times Now over the last couple of years.
- 10:35So yeah, it's been this thing of like, you know, I've had to
- 10:38accept that maybe a sports journey is not for me, but
- 10:41watching sports is. I also did try wheelchair
- 10:44soccer, so that was another thing I did try and that was a
- 10:46journey. And I did that for about a year
- 10:48and a half, I would say, But I was actually very scared of the
- 10:53speed. So I'm a bit of a scaredy cat.
- 10:55So I was just a bit like, OK, you know, I can't deal with the
- 10:57speed. So that was my sports journey.
- 10:59My sports journey right now is just watching, you know, sport.
- 11:02But otherwise I did actually try play sport, but it didn't work
- 11:05out. That's fair enough, but you
- 11:08know, at least you still tried it, you know what I mean?
- 11:10Yeah, exactly. That's the thing.
- 11:12You know, I tried it. I can say I tried it.
- 11:14Yeah, exactly. But that's so cool that you've,
- 11:16you know, still been able to travel to Liverpool to go and
- 11:21see some games. Do you travel a lot?
- 11:23Yeah, I do. Actually.
- 11:24I'd say if anybody sort of follows me on social media,
- 11:26they'll know I I travel a lot. And so yeah, I've been on a
- 11:30couple of trips and I've also done a lot of freelance work in
- 11:32my time. So I've done work with the
- 11:34Council of Europe and I got to travel to Strasbourg and also
- 11:39Budapest to film accessible videos.
- 11:42I also do just try go on, you know, little trips here and
- 11:46there a lot. So I've been around, I've been
- 11:49to a lot of countries in Europe. So it's been really cool.
- 11:52I've also been, you know, to America a couple of times.
- 11:55So that's been cool as well. So yeah, I do like to travel.
- 11:58And of course, I know a lot of people with, I shouldn't say
- 12:01this, but I should say more. So wheelchair users, they sort
- 12:05of struggle with having that, you know, fear of their chairs
- 12:08getting damaged or destroyed on an aeroplane.
- 12:11Luckily enough, I haven't really had that.
- 12:13But yeah, I, I get why people are nervous, but I'd really
- 12:16recommend people to travel while they can.
- 12:18You know, it's really cool to experience new cultures.
- 12:21And yeah, so if you can travel, I'd just say, you know, just do
- 12:24it. That's amazing, thank you for
- 12:26sharing that. There's always going to be
- 12:27anxiety around travelling. I certainly get that.
- 12:30You know, when you land, you're like, I hope my tour made it
- 12:33through. Yeah, exactly.
- 12:35But you know, it is kind of worth it in the end, just the
- 12:38amazing experiences and you, you don't want to deprive yourself
- 12:41of that just because you've got that extra hurdle that maybe
- 12:44other people don't have. It is annoying that we have to
- 12:47like forward plan and do a lot more, you know, planning in, in
- 12:51advance and stuff. But yeah, I know it's it's so
- 12:54worth it. Yeah, just to get, you know, new
- 12:56experiences. They say new cultures is really
- 12:58important and I've actually also got to manage to meet people who
- 13:02I've become friends are from online, you know, in wherever
- 13:05they're from or you know, if I'm nearer there, you know, I'd get
- 13:08text and it'd be like, oh, you know, do you want to meet or
- 13:11whatever. So I've actually gotten to meet
- 13:12a lot of people from this community, which has been really
- 13:14cool. That's my goal.
- 13:15I really actually want to meet more people face to face.
- 13:18As much as I love doing these online interviews and meeting
- 13:21people online, like I just want to, I want to give you a hug.
- 13:24Do you know what I mean? Like, I want to, I want to see
- 13:26you guys in person. I want to hang out.
- 13:28I want to go to the pub with you.
- 13:29Do you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly.
- 13:31Just just saying everyday things, you know, and that's
- 13:33that's the thing like, because online is great and I love, you
- 13:37know, being able to form connections online.
- 13:38But, yeah, I just think there's nothing better than getting to
- 13:41finally, you know, meet somebody in person and say, you know,
- 13:44I've been talking to you for years, You know, if we come so
- 13:47close over, you know, these similar experiences that we've
- 13:50had, and it's just really cool. Yeah, that's a great segue into
- 13:54your online content. Tell us a bit about your content
- 13:56creation and what you do. Yeah, so I'm a content creator
- 13:59and, umm, activist. So, umm, it's, it's very funny
- 14:04because my content, I can never sort of describe it to people.
- 14:06It's like what to do? And I'm like, oh, you know, I'm
- 14:09an advocate, but I'm also like, you know, I show my, you know,
- 14:12my lifestyle videos as well. So, you know, if I'm on holiday
- 14:15or anything, I would show off that as well.
- 14:17But I'm a, I'm a huge fan of writing.
- 14:19So I love to write my experiences and hopefully
- 14:22through that people can and relate to my content.
- 14:26And so I sort of class myself as a activist slash lifestyle
- 14:30content creator. It's like a big word, but you
- 14:32know, that's the sort of stuff that I do.
- 14:34It's a bit of everything, just, you know, little glimpses into
- 14:37different parts of your life. Yeah, exactly.
- 14:39It's just little glimpses. And then, yeah, I think back in
- 14:442020 when I started, it was more so I started because I was born
- 14:48during COVID and they thought myself, oh, you know, I may be
- 14:52able to help other people. So that's why I, you know, I do
- 14:55it. And yeah, it makes the content.
- 14:58People can check out my page if they want, and then they'll be
- 15:00able to see more of my content because people would always say
- 15:04to me, I sort of understand myself.
- 15:06So yeah. Absolutely.
- 15:08I mean, what is your name on social media?
- 15:10Yeah, so on Instagram I'm and my handle is at Con Macaulay, so
- 15:15that's CONMCAULEY. I'm also there as well on TikTok
- 15:21but I am more of an Instagram fan so I use that more.
- 15:25Yeah, me too. It's where like Instagram Ogs I
- 15:28feel like. How has the response been?
- 15:32How's the response been to your content and how are you finding
- 15:36it? Yeah, I, I found my, you know,
- 15:38response to my content to be very good.
- 15:40And I'm lucky enough that I haven't had to deal with anybody
- 15:43who is, you know, trolling me or anything.
- 15:45And because they know a lot of people in our community have had
- 15:48to deal with that. And so, yeah, I've had a good,
- 15:52you know, sort of good reception on my content also as well.
- 15:56And people would get in touch with me who have, you know,
- 15:59maybe children with the same condition as me or they have,
- 16:02you know, a friend or a brother or an uncle.
- 16:06And because mostly boys are affected with Duchenne.
- 16:08But I love that because it's really cool as a community, you
- 16:12know, getting to put myself out there and then other people are
- 16:16able to see that. And I hope that just gives them
- 16:19a bit of hope. And it can, you know, show that
- 16:22I have Duchenne, but I'm not just Duchenne.
- 16:24You know, there's so much more to me.
- 16:26So yeah, it's it's it's really cool.
- 16:29And so, yeah, I've had positive feedback.
- 16:32That's great to hear and and I just feel like so proud of you
- 16:36because it's not easy to share your experiences online and not
- 16:39everyone would do that. You know, it might come easy to
- 16:42you if you're used to it, but a lot of people would really
- 16:45struggle to open up. And I think you're such a good
- 16:48representation for people that might struggle to open up about
- 16:52their disabilities, especially with the stigma around men's
- 16:55mental health as well. I think it's great to see, you
- 16:59know, just men like you talking openly about their struggles,
- 17:02but also their daily lives outside of it.
- 17:04And, you know, you're not just your disability.
- 17:07You are so much more. And to show that you can do so
- 17:11much more, well, yeah, obviously bring some hope to a lot of
- 17:15people. So thank you for all that you
- 17:17do. Thanks so much.
- 17:18I really appreciate it and it's really great to hear that from
- 17:21somebody you know who has muscular dystrophy themselves.
- 17:24Absolutely. I know our conditions are under
- 17:28the same kind of umbrella, but obviously they're very, very
- 17:31different. Mine is limb Goodall and your
- 17:34side to Shan. So can you tell us a bit about
- 17:37what your symptoms are now, like how you're doing with it right
- 17:40now? With you, Shan, I sort of deal
- 17:42with various symptoms and tiredness can be a big one.
- 17:46So sometimes I have to just, you know, make sure I get enough
- 17:48sleep and make sure I am relax because I find it very hard to,
- 17:54you know, stop and also fatigue as well.
- 17:56So sometimes I can, you know, want to just grab as much food
- 18:01as I can and just, you know, eat because I, I suffer with fatigue
- 18:05and also as well calf muscle cramping.
- 18:08So sometimes I would be just throughout the day, you know,
- 18:12sitting down in my chair and all of a sudden I would get a bit of
- 18:14cramping. So that can be a bit tough.
- 18:18I also have sort of hip and femur pain and because I've
- 18:22broken both of them and I've had to have metal plates put into my
- 18:26hip. So those things can also make
- 18:30everyday life challenging, but I just try to manage my symptoms
- 18:33as best as I can. Wow.
- 18:36You've you've broken your bones. That's it.
- 18:39I mean, it's scary anyway, but it's especially scary when
- 18:42you've got an kind of an underlying condition.
- 18:45What happened there? Sorry, I'm being nosy now.
- 18:48Yeah, no, you're fine. You're fine.
- 18:50I've told the story back when I first started, I'd say my
- 18:53council. Yeah, it's been a long time, but
- 18:56yeah, so for me, I first of all broke my femur and I was in, I
- 19:01was about 16, I would say. I was still full time walking.
- 19:04And so I was actually walking home to a friend's house and I
- 19:10went over and I fell and I broke my femur.
- 19:14I fell out onto the roads. And so that was a really tough
- 19:18thing. And also as well at that time
- 19:19was hard because I went from walking full time to being a
- 19:24full time wheelchair user. And I was so I was so good at
- 19:27masking things back then that I would even get questions after I
- 19:31was in the chair and be like, you know, when you getting out
- 19:33that thing. So that was the first thing, the
- 19:35femur. So that was like a big event in
- 19:38my life. And then the hip came.
- 19:41That would have been I think 2021 and I tripped and I fell
- 19:45and I broke my hip and yeah, true that.
- 19:49I actually had to get surgery, so I had to get like metal
- 19:52plates inserted and stuff. So yeah, like I have to get for
- 19:56pain management like every six months, like, you know,
- 19:59injections done and stuff like that.
- 20:00So that's been a very big thing and a very big thing for
- 20:04symptoms because I do suffer with a little bit with pain.
- 20:08So yeah, they're my sort of like to break in stories of I broke
- 20:12my hand as well. But that was like years ago.
- 20:14That was like 10 or 12 years ago.
- 20:15So that did not much effect on me.
- 20:18Wow, you've you're like crossing off the bingo card there of all
- 20:21the different bones you can break.
- 20:23Oh, bless you. Well, you're a trooper for going
- 20:25through those. And I think you are actually
- 20:28inspiring me to use my mobility. It's more like on the days that
- 20:31I suffer and I worry that I'm going to fall, I'm like, you
- 20:34know what? Sometimes it's not worth it.
- 20:35Like, you know, if I fall, I could get seriously injured or
- 20:39break a bone. And considering the fact that
- 20:42we're not allowed to have casts because if we do have casts, it
- 20:45means we can't exercise the muscle from, you know, weeks or
- 20:48months or whatever, and the alternative sound really scary.
- 20:52So yeah, it just sounds like a much longer and more painful
- 20:58process for someone with muscular dystrophy.
- 21:01That's it, of course. And yeah, it the thing with me
- 21:05is that I've always sort of been a bit rebellious and I'd be
- 21:07like, oh, you know what I mean? You know, walk as long as you
- 21:09want, do what you want. But it is hard sometimes when
- 21:12you're like feeling tired or something, you know, sometimes
- 21:14it is good to just say to yourself, OK, I will use my
- 21:17mobility aid and I will do this. And even though for someone like
- 21:20stubborn, that is really hard to take.
- 21:23But for me as well with the femur, they actually did use a
- 21:26cast, but they used like this, it was like this cast that they
- 21:29made-up sort of. So it was very like lightweight
- 21:33and I actually managed to get back up on my feet after
- 21:36breaking the femur, but I was mostly walking just in the
- 21:39house. And but my foot was never the
- 21:41same because I did have, you know, a cast on.
- 21:44It was a lighter cast. But yeah, the muscles really did
- 21:46get damaged and they never recovered.
- 21:48Wow, that's crazy. Well, thank you for going
- 21:51through that so that we didn't have to.
- 21:52We can learn from you because I'm an extremely seven person as
- 21:56well. I, you know, even if I'm
- 21:57struggling, I'm like, no, no, no, I want to do it.
- 21:59I want to do it all, but sometimes it's not worth it.
- 22:03And sometimes, you know, we push ourselves to the extreme and we
- 22:06end up suffering. And I need to remember that
- 22:09sometimes it's OK to just, you know, take a break or sit down
- 22:13or use a mobility aid. You know, having this condition
- 22:16in general, I think, you know, it does make us stronger.
- 22:19Not physically, obviously, but, you know, mentally and mentally.
- 22:23Yeah. And just, you know, and I'm sure
- 22:26your family as well and your sister have so much of A better
- 22:29understanding because of you. You know, you've brought like,
- 22:31so much perspective into their lives as well.
- 22:34Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's the thing.
- 22:36And it's funny for them because they see these things and they
- 22:39see these struggles that I've had and, you know, they really
- 22:42fight on my corner and that's, you know, really cool.
- 22:45And I think it's fun as well because when they go away
- 22:48themselves, like my older sister, she lives actually in
- 22:50New York. So when she's there, she would
- 22:53be like, you know, saying things to her friends or whatever and
- 22:56saying, you know, this isn't accessible and, you know,
- 22:58telling people. So sort of like I, I love it
- 23:01though, because it's like this thing of like spreading the
- 23:04word. So it's like, oh, you know, my
- 23:06brother had a dis has a disability.
- 23:08You know, I've learned from that and I'm going to, you know,
- 23:10bring it somewhere else and bring it to more people.
- 23:12So I find that very funny. And but yeah, it, it has, you
- 23:16know, my experience has definitely made them more
- 23:18resilient and more understanding of, you know, people with
- 23:21disabilities. I love that she's basically
- 23:24advocating for you from the other side of the world, you
- 23:27know, like pointing things out, pointing out inaccessibility.
- 23:31And I know that's, you know, especially a problem in big
- 23:34cities like New York. There's still a lot of work to
- 23:36be done. But I love, I love all my
- 23:38friends point stuff out that they wouldn't have known about
- 23:42if it wasn't for me. You know, they're like, oh, like
- 23:44I went, I went to this place today and I just realised like
- 23:47there was a giant step to get in and there was no ramp.
- 23:49Like, and I'm just like, thank you for thinking of that, you
- 23:52know, that actually the fact that they're even considering
- 23:55that, you know, and integrate that into their daily life.
- 23:58It's lovely to see because I always think of this like, you
- 24:01know, if I had a friend who had a disability who used the
- 24:03mobility aid, I would think the exact same way.
- 24:06But when you sort of think of it yourself, you sort of feel like,
- 24:09Oh my God, they're doing that. You know, you think it's really
- 24:11cool. But like, yeah, I would just
- 24:13think of that, you know, in a way.
- 24:14So it's, it's great though. But that's that shows they have
- 24:17really good friends as well. And my friends will be the same.
- 24:20So it's it's pretty cool. Absolutely.
- 24:22One thing I have yet to do that I'm actually quite excited for
- 24:26because I love going out, but I've never gone out in a
- 24:30wheelchair before. And I've always been so careful
- 24:33when it comes to, you know, drinking or where we go.
- 24:38And I'm just really worried that, you know, if I drink too
- 24:40much and I end up losing my balance and falling, I might
- 24:43like end up in a horrible situation.
- 24:45But I'm like, if I go out in my wheelchair I can just get
- 24:48carried away. That's it exactly, exactly.
- 24:50You know, there's, there's actually some advantages to
- 24:53having a wheelchair or mobility aid.
- 24:55And because I would have been the exact same actually, you
- 24:57know, when I, when I first broke my femur, like 16 or 17, I, I
- 25:01shouldn't say I was drinking. I know I technically wasn't
- 25:04drinking because I was under 18. So just ignore me on any of
- 25:06those points. But when I was going out, having
- 25:09a fun time with friends, you know, yeah, when I was going out
- 25:11and having a good time with friends, you know, it was that
- 25:14thing of where I was nervous and stuff like that.
- 25:16I, I remember I actually went to a party and I slipped on tile
- 25:20and this random fella came over to me and he just picked me up.
- 25:23And I was never, I was never, I was embarrassed in my life and I
- 25:26was like, OK, you know, I'm going to never do this again.
- 25:29But I did do it again. But yeah, it's that weird thing
- 25:32of like you're so afraid of something going wrong that your
- 25:36focus turns into that, you know? So I would definitely advocate
- 25:39to use a mobility aids and if you're worried about that.
- 25:42Yeah, that's actually such a good point.
- 25:44You know, it's constantly at the back of my mind and I feel like
- 25:48it, it would just use my mind so much and I wouldn't have to
- 25:51worry about that aspect of, you know, constantly looking out for
- 25:54myself. Or it's especially, you know,
- 25:57worse when it's really busy and people bump into you and then
- 25:59you could be on the floor like that.
- 26:02The only thing I'm still battling with, and I know that a
- 26:06lot of people will struggle with this as well, is just going out,
- 26:08especially somewhere where, you know, you'll bump into a lot of
- 26:11people that you know, but in a wheelchair, you know, there's
- 26:14still not many people I see out and about using mobilities or in
- 26:17wheelchairs on a night out. And it may be because they're, a
- 26:22lot of them are like me and they have invisible disabilities and
- 26:25they just, you know, want to hide it or just, I don't know, I
- 26:28just want to carry on. But I'm just going to try and
- 26:32battle that like inner ableism and just do it.
- 26:38Yeah, exactly. It is so hard though.
- 26:39Like I don't think people realise how hard it actually is.
- 26:42And because you're going from, you know, people that you've
- 26:45known for a long time, they've never seen you in a wheelchair.
- 26:48To seen you in a wheelchair and all of a sudden your mind is
- 26:50like, oh, you know, are they going to treat me different?
- 26:52Are they going to talk to me in a different way?
- 26:54So it's funny because even with me, with my life, I've always
- 26:58thought, you know, it's weird. Like, I see some people I knew
- 27:01from the past when I was walking and then I was in the chair.
- 27:03And I find it really hard to be comfortable with those people.
- 27:07And it's, you know, not a fault of their own.
- 27:09But it's just this weird thing within me where I'm like, you
- 27:12know, this is awkward. But yeah, it, it's tough.
- 27:15It's tough to, you know, overcome that and, and just try
- 27:19use your, you know, mobility aids.
- 27:21And but I try to say to myself, you know, life is very short.
- 27:23So just try do it and just try put yourself out there, you
- 27:27know, it's very short. And other people would, you
- 27:30know, crave at the chance of that.
- 27:31So yeah, that's what I try to say to myself.
- 27:34That's very true. And who knows, maybe people will
- 27:37all just be jealous of me and they'll all want to go sitting
- 27:39in my wheelchair. Exactly, that's the thing.
- 27:42They'll be like all kind of a go and stuff like that, you know
- 27:44it's. Actually, because I've just
- 27:45gotten a electric add on so I can go fast now, you know,
- 27:50people will want to go to like whiz around and, you know,
- 27:52pretend like they're a Mario Kart or something.
- 27:55That's it. Exactly, exactly.
- 27:57It's all just these like fun things they have to think about.
- 27:59And you know, I always get, you know, my friends would always
- 28:01tag me off and stuff like that and be like, you know, oh,
- 28:03you're going to get speeding ticket.
- 28:05And I'm like, you know. Challenge accepted though.
- 28:10Well, thank you anyway, because I think seeing people like you,
- 28:13I mean, I am 24 as well, so seeing someone exactly my age
- 28:17just going out and enjoying life and you know, you, I know you're
- 28:20a sociable person. I know you enjoy going to the
- 28:22pub, you know, from your Instagram.
- 28:24I might be wrong because you know, social media is not is you
- 28:28know, it's not all the the whole truth, but I have seen
- 28:31obviously, even I know you like your Guinness.
- 28:34It's not something that's on my radar.
- 28:39It's an Irish thing. It's an Irish thing.
- 28:40You know, you need your Guinness.
- 28:41It's just like a it's like our blood at this point.
- 28:44But yeah, yeah, I do actually love to go out and go to the
- 28:48pool and stuff like that and, you know, go out to nightclub
- 28:51and all. And, and it's funny as well
- 28:53because when I do get to do those things, I absolutely love
- 28:56it. But sometimes I can be a very
- 28:57like quiet person, a quite reserved person.
- 29:00So it just depends on, you know, who I'm with and if I'm
- 29:03comfortable with those people. If I'm comfortable with those
- 29:05people, I'll be like, hell yeah, you know, let's go and do this.
- 29:07But yeah, if I'm just not really comfortable, I'll sort of go
- 29:11into my own self a little bit. So, yeah, it, it is half true,
- 29:15half not true. You know, that's the game.
- 29:17Like, yeah. So it's it's sort of this funny
- 29:19thing of if I feel comfortable with people and, you know, I'm
- 29:22around those people, I'll be like, you know, let's go every
- 29:25day. And then of them in the
- 29:26different situation, it wouldn't be like that.
- 29:27So yeah, I think it though, it depends on the day because
- 29:31you're obviously you're not going to be going to a nightclub
- 29:32seven days a week. Like, I don't think we'd be able
- 29:35to keep up a time, no. Absolutely not.
- 29:38Maybe, maybe there was a time and I hate when people say.
- 29:40Like, oh like. You're so young, you know you're
- 29:43still in your 20s. You should be going out all the
- 29:45time. I'm like trust me with my
- 29:47fatigue there is no getting me out that door multiple times a
- 29:50week, let alone once a week. Exactly.
- 29:53Yeah, exactly. And if it's too cold though, I'm
- 29:55just like, no, I'm not. Bought a bike?
- 29:57Honestly, like this kind of time of year when it's freezing
- 30:01outside, I really dread to go outside.
- 30:04And I'm an extrovert. I love meeting new people, I
- 30:07love going out and socialising. But something I've had to learn
- 30:11is that my battery doesn't always allow that.
- 30:14And I'm just talking about my physical battery, my fatigue
- 30:17battery I guess. And there does come a point
- 30:20where even though I love socialising, I just can't.
- 30:23I'm like, you know what, I have to tap out, I need to go home.
- 30:27That you know, you have to listen to your own limits, don't
- 30:29you? That's exactly you do.
- 30:31And I've learned myself, you know, it's like over the years
- 30:34or it's like, OK, you know, I need to just rest now.
- 30:36And, and I've sort of mentioned before, like when we were sort
- 30:40of talking is that I do like to do everything and I don't like
- 30:45to stop. So I can't stop.
- 30:46Sometimes I'm just like, oh, you know, you have to stop.
- 30:49So yeah, with these conditions, that's another hard realisation
- 30:52is that sometimes you need a break and you need to just, you
- 30:55know, give yourself time to recover and because, yeah, it
- 30:59can cause, you know, a lot of fatigue.
- 31:01So for. Sure, absolutely.
- 31:04Umm, well, thank you so much for taking your time to chat with me
- 31:08too. It's been really nice just to
- 31:09get to know you on just like a, a deeper level and just, you
- 31:13know, being in different group chats and passing ships on
- 31:16social. Media.
- 31:17That's it. That's it exactly.
- 31:19It's nice just to talk one-on-one because, yeah, I feel
- 31:22like we're in our community. Like sometimes you could have
- 31:24like group chats and stuff like that and, you know, get to know
- 31:26people through that. But yeah, it's, it's really nice
- 31:28just to have a chat. Absolutely.
- 31:30And it's nice to not just complain.
- 31:33I think it's really easy to complain about the worst parts
- 31:35of our condition. But there's still so much, you
- 31:38know, goodness in our life. And like you said, life is too
- 31:41short. So if I do have a bad day, like
- 31:44I try to just sit with it for a minute and then just kind of let
- 31:47it go because I want to still enjoy life as much as I can.
- 31:50And I think social media is a great way to enjoy life.
- 31:56But I think, you know, it can be a place where you can easily
- 32:00focus on the negative. So it's nice to be able to just
- 32:04to chat about the normal things as well.
- 32:08But that's exactly, and for me, like I sometimes think of social
- 32:12media like I need a break sometimes and you just get off
- 32:15it. And even if you do try, you
- 32:17know, control your content and stuff like that, sometimes I
- 32:19find myself, like, scrolling and it's just these, like, both
- 32:22stupidest videos, you know, that you have.
- 32:24And, you know, that is fun and that's fair.
- 32:26But like, when you're there for like an hour, just scrolling,
- 32:28that can become very unhealthy. So yeah, it is nice to just sort
- 32:31of step out that sometimes and just, you know, chat.
- 32:35Absolutely. It's something I'm trying to
- 32:36work on is my screen time and just like doom scrolling.
- 32:40And I keep saying to myself, just because I work in social
- 32:43media and I obviously we both do a lot of content.
- 32:46It's important to step back from that for a set.
- 32:49Because I think as content creators, we always think about
- 32:52the next thing we want to post and, you know, to try and stay
- 32:55active and, you know, provide this content to our followers.
- 32:58But actually we still need to take time for ourselves and we
- 33:02need to protect ourselves as well.
- 33:04Yeah, it's a weird balance. And for me, like I've, I work in
- 33:08social media as well. So it's this weird thing of
- 33:10like, OK, like you need to switch off now.
- 33:12Like stop looking of trends, stop trying to, you know, do
- 33:14this or do that. So it's like this thing of like,
- 33:17you know, live in the real world.
- 33:18You know, it's, it's the online world is great.
- 33:20But sometimes, yeah, you do need to switch off.
- 33:22Absolutely. So you mentioned that you work
- 33:25in social media. Why is that important to you?
- 33:28Well, I think it's really important to me because sharing
- 33:32your story has a big power and also sharing my own story, it's
- 33:36sort of helped me to understand myself better and it also helps
- 33:41others feel seen and supported too, which is a big thing.
- 33:45I want to show like the reality of living with a disability and
- 33:48not just the medical side of things because I feel like a lot
- 33:51of people and just see disability as a medical thing
- 33:55and there's a human side. And, you know, I want to break
- 33:57the stereotypes and show the disabled people can be
- 34:00confident. We can, you know, be ambitious
- 34:03and also be outspoken. So activism sort of matters to
- 34:06me. My social media is a way of
- 34:09creating change. And any of the other, you know,
- 34:11organisations or companies I've worked on social media, that's
- 34:15the way I think as well. It's sort of just to make things
- 34:17easier for people or, you know, create change.
- 34:21That's incredible, and you're definitely using your platform
- 34:24for the better, just to raise as much awareness as possible and
- 34:27to kind of break the barrier and not just create content for the
- 34:31disability community, which is really important, you know, for
- 34:34people to have that representation, but also break
- 34:37into the audiences that may not see much disabled content and to
- 34:41be aware that, you know, disabled people are still normal
- 34:44people and we still have normal lives.
- 34:45So that is incredible what you do.
- 34:48Thank you. Thank you.
- 34:49I really appreciate that. Did you say you work with a lot
- 34:52of other like companies or organisations on social media?
- 34:56Yeah, like I've done a lot of work with companies and stuff
- 34:59like freelance work or I I did an internship in or T, which is
- 35:02our version of the BBC. So it's our like national
- 35:05broadcaster. So and I was like a social media
- 35:08intern there for a while. So yeah, it's really cool.
- 35:11Like, I've loved, you know, working in social media, doing
- 35:13freelance work, social media. And so, yeah, I feel like that's
- 35:18a great thing but also a curse, as you say, as well.
- 35:21You know, you're always switched on.
- 35:22So yeah. But it is cool getting to do
- 35:24that work. The thing is with social media
- 35:27creating is people say that scrolling is actually like
- 35:30homework. You know, you're actually doing
- 35:31research for constant new ideas, which is great.
- 35:35But then I feel like I'm just using that as an excuse.
- 35:37If I'm scrolling when it's getting really late in bed and
- 35:40I'm still scrolling, I'm like, no, no, I'm just getting ideas.
- 35:42But actually I should probably. Switch off.
- 35:45That's it exactly. I love that.
- 35:47I want to ask you a question that I ask all my interviewees,
- 35:51which is, is there a piece of advice that you'd give to
- 35:55someone else that's maybe just gotten diagnosed or that's gone
- 35:58through something like you have like a younger version of
- 36:01yourself maybe? Yeah, I would tell anybody who's
- 36:05been diagnosed or my younger self, the younger version of
- 36:08Connor, and just not to be so hard on yourself and like, you
- 36:13don't need to hide your symptoms to try to fit into what you
- 36:18think is normal and because you're definitely enough as you
- 36:21are for anybody struggling. Like, it just doesn't define
- 36:25your value, you know, ask for help when you need it and take
- 36:28life one day at a time. And and also don't be afraid to
- 36:32smell. Celebrate the small victories.
- 36:35And there's real strength in being honest about what you're
- 36:37going through. I absolutely love that.
- 36:41That is a perfect way to end this episode.
- 36:44And I'll be definitely taking that advice for myself.
- 36:46I think it's so easy to be hard on yourself with anything, you
- 36:51know, not just anything disability related just in life.
- 36:54But I always try and treat myself like I would treat a
- 36:57friend. Like I would never let my friend
- 36:59treat themselves really hard or be hard on themselves.
- 37:02So I'm trying to talk to myself in the same way and be like, no,
- 37:06I need to give myself a bit of grace, you know, I am trying.
- 37:10It's hard, but yeah, sometimes you need to.
- 37:12You need that tough love sometimes, you know?
- 37:15Yeah. Exactly.
- 37:17Thank you, Connor, so much for coming on the podcast today.
- 37:20It's been so nice to chat to you.
- 37:22It's been an absolute pleasure. It's been a pleasure to be on
- 37:25and I really want to thank you for having me on.
- 37:27It's been great. And you know, I've really enjoy
- 37:30getting to know you over the past couple of years, but also
- 37:33now on this one-on-one level, which I think is really cool.
- 37:35Like we'll call your friend. So that's the main thing.
- 37:38But I also want to just thank, you know, everyone who also
- 37:41supports me as well, you know, like my family and friends and
- 37:44people who follow my journey online.
- 37:46It does mean a lot. So one more thing.
- 37:49I also want to encourage, you know, people to learn more about
- 37:52disabilities and listen to those living with them.
- 37:54And awareness does lead to understanding, and understanding
- 37:58leads to change. And to anyone living with
- 38:00Duchenne or another disability, your voice definitely matters.
- 38:04So do not be afraid to use it. I'm.
- 38:07Going to cry. That was so good.
- 38:08That was that was amazing. Thank you.
- 38:11Yes, your voice absolutely does matter and you're using your
- 38:15voice, Connor, to some incredible levels and I can't
- 38:19wait to see you continue to grow your platform and just to
- 38:23educate people and raise awareness.
- 38:25Guys, please, if you're listening and you don't already
- 38:27follow Connor, please follow him on social media.
- 38:30I will link his at below in the description.
- 38:34So please check him out. Thank you guys so much for
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