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Hour 3: Indiana back-to-back? Plus, Tom Luginbill joins us. · Out of Bounds with Bo Bounds

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  Speaker 1: Live from the Whiskey sixty one Lounge inside the Bank
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the studio.
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  Speaker 1: oh five point nine The Zone.
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  Speaker 2: M Not really, that's cool. Great, Yeah, that's a good one.
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  Speaker 2: Not really.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, we are the out of Bound Show e s
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  Speaker 3: P N one oh five nine The Zone. Kurt Signetti
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  Speaker 3: is the Clint Eastwood of college football. He really is.
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  Speaker 3: Not really, that's who he is. Kurts is the Clint
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  Speaker 3: Eastwood of college football. You know, he's a dude that
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  Speaker 3: kind of comes out of nowhere. You don't want to
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  Speaker 3: mess with him, and you feel like he may take
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  Speaker 3: you out.
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  Speaker 4: Not really.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not sure that anybody came back from
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  Speaker 3: summer vacation with Kurt Signetti.
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  Speaker 5: Not really. Yeah, he took he took a summer vacation.
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  Speaker 5: I think he did. I think he did. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Now, I'm not gonna say that he wasn't out on
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  Speaker 3: the back porch wherever they were, terrace or ocean or river.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And while he's visiting with family, he's also thinking about
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  Speaker 3: what are we going to do?
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  Speaker 5: On third and four in the red zone.
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  Speaker 6: You think he's getting any like inside info from the
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  Speaker 6: fam maybe what they would do.
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  Speaker 5: No, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I think his family is over the moon that while
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  Speaker 3: he made more than solid money, yeah, throughout his career,
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  Speaker 3: he's now making great grandkids money because he's making thirteen.
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  Speaker 6: Maniars right, I'm talking about the in laws. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 6: the in laws that they did that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know about his in laws, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: you could see. I don't think this would happen, but
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  Speaker 3: we do. We're all around people that have no self awareness,
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  Speaker 3: and it would be awesome if a son in law
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  Speaker 3: walked up to him at the beach this summer and said, hey, coach,
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking about what you could do if you
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  Speaker 3: started the conversation like that after going fifteen and oh
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  Speaker 3: and winning a national championship, and now we feel like
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  Speaker 3: he's a football savant. Right, Yeah, there's no doubt that's happened. Well, no,
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  Speaker 3: there is, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't be surprised either way.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay.
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  Speaker 6: He he started, uh, you know, big ten media days
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  Speaker 6: obviously late July by saying, I've been on vacation long enough.
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  Speaker 6: I'm tired of being bossed around by my wife. I'm
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  Speaker 6: ready to bos somebody else around and develop a football team. Well,
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  Speaker 6: if anybody can do it in six weeks, it's Kurt
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  Speaker 6: blank Signetty.
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  Speaker 3: He was in Satan Bart's nice. That's a good spot
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  Speaker 3: to be. So he figured out a nice play. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: when you got a private jet, you're making thirteen million
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  Speaker 3: a year, you can go rent an island for a
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  Speaker 3: week or ten days and everybody can have a good time.
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  Speaker 3: You can have a personal chef and said he was
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  Speaker 3: recognized unexpectedly. That doesn't surprise me as much as you're
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  Speaker 3: on TV now, I mean when you make that kind
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  Speaker 3: of run.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't really wake up to him until this past year.
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  Speaker 3: The first year they went to the college football player
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  Speaker 3: Let's be honest, we thought, oh, that's cute and sweet
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  Speaker 3: and fun. First year he went to the college football playoff,
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  Speaker 3: got bounced. Okay, that was fun, Indiana, thank you for playing. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: you know, almost like James Madison where he coached before.
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  Speaker 3: You know, going to the college football Playoff for Tulane.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you're like, that's cute and sweet and fun.
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  Speaker 3: But whatever, And then in year two he decides to
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  Speaker 3: embarrass Alabama embarrass Oregon and beat Miami and go undefeated.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if we understand how historic or if
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  Speaker 3: we've really thought about it, how historic and remarkable it is.
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  Speaker 3: And was that Indiana did. Did Kurt Signetti and his
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  Speaker 3: football staff did this in a short period of time
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  Speaker 3: in year two on the campus of the University of
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  Speaker 3: Indiana in Bloomington, Indiana, where you can't even name one
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  Speaker 3: of their football players until Fernando Mendoza and don't tell
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  Speaker 3: me Michael Pennox until Fernando Mendoza was you know, goes
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  Speaker 3: through and then even a lot of people didn't even know. Look,
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  Speaker 3: there were people who sat down excited about the National
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  Speaker 3: Championship Game and were like, who is that Federico Morales.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you just hadn't kept up. They knew, but
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  Speaker 5: they didn't know.
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  Speaker 3: And then he's the number one pick in the I mean,
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  Speaker 3: not only didn't he Indiana win it, they had the
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  Speaker 3: number one pick in the NFL draft.
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  Speaker 5: The reason they did with it one of the reasons, sure,
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  Speaker 5: no question. Yeah, so you throw Michael Pennocks under the bus.
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  Speaker 3: I did not well. He ended his career at at Washington.
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  Speaker 3: Is the reason why I said that I'm not throwing
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  Speaker 3: Michael Pennocks under the bus for our listeners. He was
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  Speaker 3: in Indiana and then Washington. Yeah, just hanging out washing Tua,
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  Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons, Baby Tua Tongue Baloa and and Michael Pennocks
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  Speaker 3: going head to head.
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  Speaker 5: Boy, that's just delicious. Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what am I excited about in the NFC South?
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  Speaker 3: Tyler Tua, Tyler Shuck or Bryce Young?
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  Speaker 5: Oh? Why Baker out?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: Baker is some something because people either love or hate him.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he's kind of got that bad boy thing going.
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  Speaker 3: He goes to did he go to did he go
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  Speaker 3: to A and M before Oklahoma?
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  Speaker 5: Is that what it was? Or do you go to
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  Speaker 5: Texas Tech? I can't even remember.
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  Speaker 3: But didn't he go walk on the skye to Unbelievable
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  Speaker 3: Player to take Oklahoma Tech to Oklahoma? Okay? Well Mahomes
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  Speaker 3: went through Texas Tech? Was there an overlap there Jay
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  Speaker 3: Meadows where Baker eventually went to Oklahoma and started and Mahon?
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  Speaker 3: Of course, Cliff Kingsbury couldn't go more than like six
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  Speaker 3: and six or seven and five with Patrick Mahomes in
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  Speaker 3: a week week week Big twelve. But evidently according to
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  Speaker 3: the numbers. Cliff Kingsbury is one hell of an offensive
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  Speaker 3: coordinator play caller.
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  Speaker 6: Mahomes started there in fourteen and he was out. He
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  Speaker 6: started did Oklahoma in fourteen. So they were there, they
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  Speaker 6: got they were maybe one was transitioning out, the other
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  Speaker 6: one transitioning in.
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  Speaker 3: So they played in the Big twelve at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Oh cool. And I think Stoop that was
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  Speaker 3: that was before Lincoln took over, So I think that
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  Speaker 3: was still with Bob Stoops. Sure, okay, And I do
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  Speaker 3: know that Cliff Kingsbury coach Mahomes at Texas Tech before
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  Speaker 3: getting fired, but then somehow getting hired as the Arizona
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  Speaker 3: Cardinals head coach and then and then that didn't work.
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  Speaker 5: But as a play caller, he's sure. He looks good.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: You can get in touch with us on the Dancing
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  Speaker 3: Rabbit golf text line six oh one eight eight five, three, seven,
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  Speaker 3: seven six. Here's the deal with Indiana. Your brain, in
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  Speaker 3: my brain has rejected what was happened, what has happened,
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  Speaker 3: because that's how we are a sports fans. I talk
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  Speaker 3: about it all the time. Right by sixteen, This is
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  Speaker 3: give or take, This is what you think about sports
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  Speaker 3: there's no wiggle room, hard headed males. This is you know,
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  Speaker 3: this was my playing It's kind of based off your
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  Speaker 3: playing career, who you played with, who you know, kind
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  Speaker 3: of the teams that you liked, whatever. Breaking out of
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  Speaker 3: that is virtually impossible from sixteen to ninety years old.
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  Speaker 3: So your brain wants to reject that Indiana won the
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  Speaker 3: national championship, that the Big Ten has won back to
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  Speaker 3: back to back national championships, and that the SEC hasn't
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  Speaker 3: even had anybody in the championship game. And the league's
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  Speaker 3: never been more watered down, and I believe that it
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  Speaker 3: could be even more watered down this year. It's never
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  Speaker 3: been a better time to win in the Southeastern Conference.
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  Speaker 3: Bandy just went ten and two, Ole Miss went eleven
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  Speaker 3: and one. Any other questions, Vanderbilt, the worst recruiter by
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  Speaker 3: a good stretch, just went ten and two and got
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  Speaker 3: snubbed in the College Football Playoff. The two teams that
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  Speaker 3: were snubbed at the highest level according to the numbers,
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  Speaker 3: Vanderbilt Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 5: Last year.
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  Speaker 3: Your thoughts, I'd like to hear from you on the
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  Speaker 3: out of bounds roll call. But do you agree that
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  Speaker 3: our brains have rejected what has happened in college football
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  Speaker 3: and the fact that the Indiana Hoosiers are the national champs.
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  Speaker 3: Not only the champs, they were undefeated. It was not
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  Speaker 3: they smoked Obama embarrassed, Oregon beat Miami. These are I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Miami's kind of they're a big brand, but they weren't
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  Speaker 3: good for twenty years. Good team last year they did
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  Speaker 3: they did.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we're dedicating this to one of our listeners. We
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  Speaker 3: nine The Zone Mike Natilier coming up next eight thirty
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  Speaker 3: LSU Tigers, Clemson, Baton Rouge, Week one Game Day Baton Rouge,
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  Speaker 3: and UH Week three Jackson. We put the lines for
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  Speaker 3: me police for LSU Clemson into l s U Ole Miss.
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  Speaker 3: Week one, LSU hosting Clemson game Day will be there
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  Speaker 3: and then week three LSU at Ole Miss Game Day
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  Speaker 3: will be there. Can you imagine say it is going
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  Speaker 3: to be up there Saturday morning in the grove, in
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  Speaker 3: the grove, and he's already good, right, it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 3: what game he's talking about. He's done his homework and
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  Speaker 3: he is an exceptional analyst. And not all former great
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  Speaker 3: coaches are, but Saban is, which almost makes you mad,
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  Speaker 3: because he's a renaissance man. He's just it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 3: what he does. He could be president of the United
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  Speaker 3: States and he'd be more effective than the last six
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  Speaker 3: of them. But one thing when you think about Saturday
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  Speaker 3: morning in Oxford in the grove, Ole Miss hosting LSU,
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  Speaker 3: is this, there's no one that they can talk to
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  Speaker 3: that's more familiar with Pete Golding and Lane Kiffen than
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  Speaker 3: Nick Saban. Pete Golden coached under Nick Saban coached under
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  Speaker 3: And what's cool is one was on the defensive side
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  Speaker 3: of the football and one was on the offensive side
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  Speaker 3: of the football. And then, of course y'all all know
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  Speaker 3: that Laye and Pete coached together. And now there's no
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  Speaker 3: love loss between Ole Miss and Lane and LSU fans
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  Speaker 3: just kind of shrugged their shoulders.
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  Speaker 5: They don't care.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you could tell by what Detilier said a
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  Speaker 3: month or two ago. But it's gonna be delicious. It's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be the forty ounce bone en Tomahawk of college football,
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  Speaker 3: and then we all hope the game goes absolutely down
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  Speaker 3: to the wire. Now, somebody on our text line just said,
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  Speaker 3: asked us on the Dancing Rabbit Golf text line, bo,
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  Speaker 3: should I rent my condo for seven thousand dollars and
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  Speaker 3: sell my five tickets for three thousand or go to
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  Speaker 3: the LSU game in Oxford?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 3: I would, I would rent and sell. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if you can get to I think you can get
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  Speaker 3: more than that. But let's just say ten thousand for
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  Speaker 3: what you're talking about, renting your condo and selling your
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  Speaker 3: tickets for ten grand, absolutely taking your party. And I
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  Speaker 3: know some of you are renting your spots for much more.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I would rent and uh watch it from
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  Speaker 3: your house or from.
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  Speaker 5: The beach, and then bathe in the money. And then
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  Speaker 5: there you go, bathe in the money, bathe in the money. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: We also had William on the Dancing Rabbit Golf text
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  Speaker 3: line asked a question.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier that Steve Palazzolo, our NFL Insider NFL
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  Speaker 3: Podcast of the Year, he joined us on Friday. He
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  Speaker 3: was great on Drew Brees and Mahomes and we love
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  Speaker 3: talking NFL quarterbacks and so on.
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  Speaker 5: He talked to Burrow and all that.
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  Speaker 3: But Steve Palazzolo, he's six foot ten, played minor league baseball,
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  Speaker 3: got to Triple A San Francisco Giants. He's been covering
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  Speaker 3: the NFL for fifteen years. Had the NFL Podcast of
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  Speaker 3: the Year a couple of years ago. He had four
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  Speaker 3: boys under ten, and now his wife's pregnant and it's
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  Speaker 3: another boy. So he's going to have a basketball team
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  Speaker 3: either under ten or eleven, which took us to voseectomies,
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  Speaker 3: which then William says, bo I'm about to have my
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  Speaker 3: fourth kid in a few weeks. Any doctor recommendations for
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  Speaker 3: a vasectomy, and so that's evidently he's tapping out with
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  Speaker 3: almost the starting lineup in uh. Now you've got a
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  Speaker 3: doubles team in tennis.
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  Speaker 5: That's a win.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean those little people when they get up whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what to separate, but you know, if
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  Speaker 3: you've got a four, six, eight, and ten, they can play.
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  Speaker 3: You can match them up strength the you know, split
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  Speaker 3: the two best players or oldest.
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  Speaker 5: I don't even know how.
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  Speaker 3: And then you've got two doubles teams. That's all sufficiency. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: making making them two pickleball team. I've never played pickle ball,
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  Speaker 3: but you've got two pickleball teams. Have you ever played pickleball?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I played real sports.
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  Speaker 6: Oh wow, trying to be the best at exercise.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, south bound and down pickleball? Oh wow, pit it's
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  Speaker 3: going out there and stretch a little bit. But she
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  Speaker 3: played tennis. Yeah, okay, it is a real sport. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's just I was watching the nadal Uh the docu
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  Speaker 3: series on Netflix. Holy moly, it's it's intense, beast, it's intense. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we talk about we're so football. We talk about Brady
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  Speaker 3: and his greatness, Mahomes and his greatness, Montana and his greatness,
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  Speaker 3: and and so on. Well and Rod even though he's
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  Speaker 3: only got one Rogers Oh yeah, yeah, the most talented
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  Speaker 3: of them all in the two thousands. Definitely more so
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  Speaker 3: than than Peyton and Brady. It's probably the coolest one.
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  Speaker 3: And I think Drew's the coolest. You think so, I
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  Speaker 3: think Drew is the coolest. Aaron is up there. He's
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  Speaker 3: so polarizing, though. It's fabulous for us because any kind
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  Speaker 3: of lane being polarizing, Nick Saban when he was coaching,
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  Speaker 3: being polarizing, Brady being polarizing.
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  Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, we love it. We love it.
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  Speaker 3: Think you're sleeping even like Tony Boutallo in a sport
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't drive the train. But we love being polarizing
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  Speaker 3: gets people hot. By Sean Payton was polarizing in New
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  Speaker 3: Orleans because he wasn't scared to talk trash.
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  Speaker 5: Uh and he's one of the few on Twitter. What
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  Speaker 5: were you just interrupted you? What'd you say?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, that's a great question, maybe about about Bartolo not.
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  Speaker 5: Making it out of the year.
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  Speaker 3: Well, anyway, so the fasific Rogers being cool, I think
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  Speaker 3: you're underestimating it. No, I think he is cool, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: And I love Breeze. I think Breeze is real cool too.
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  Speaker 6: But Rogers, like I mean, you know, there's that kid
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  Speaker 6: that he found on Instagram, and he probably brings him
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  Speaker 6: out to the games and stuff. Now, yeah, because he
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  Speaker 6: throws the ball like him on Instagram's funny. Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 6: I would this is probably gonna be his last year.
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  Speaker 6: He and Mike McCarthy are reuniting as they were in
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  Speaker 6: Green Bay years ago together, right, and then Aaron's bounced around,
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  Speaker 6: as you know, and now they're with the Pittsburgh Steelers,
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  Speaker 6: which sounds weird, right, Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy, even
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  Speaker 6: though Mike's from Pennsylvania and grew up a Steelers fan,
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  Speaker 6: So this is like this was his dream job, which
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  Speaker 6: is incredible, Okay, And so he's all tied into that,
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  Speaker 6: to that state, and we know how much that state
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  Speaker 6: loves the Steelers, the Eagles and penn State. Good lord,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, and I'm yeah, holy Mary OL's they love it.
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  Speaker 6: We talked about how much we love sports, and we do,
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  Speaker 6: and all in the Sun Belt we love everything from
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  Speaker 6: football to softball, to baseball to volleyball. But good lord,
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  Speaker 6: Pennsylvania Steelers, of course, one of the top three franchises
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  Speaker 6: of all time in the NFL. Eagles have won two
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  Speaker 6: Super Bowls just in the last few years and have
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  Speaker 6: been to god knows how many NFC Championship games under
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  Speaker 6: Andy Reid and then threw Sirianic what yeah, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 6: he went to five just with Donovan McNabb and Andy,
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  Speaker 6: and then they've been to several since then, and then
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  Speaker 6: they've won two with two different coaches. Peterson one, and
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  Speaker 6: then Sirianni won because they embarrassed Mahomes and the Chiefs
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  Speaker 6: two years ago. Anyway, come in full circle. We just
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  Speaker 6: went from Bosseectomies to super Bowls and that's what we
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  Speaker 3: or GMC Sierra truck at Fowler Fowler, GMC Pearl, Brandon,
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  Speaker 3: Tom Lougan, Bill, good morning, how are you?
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  Speaker 4: Good morning to you all. I'm doing good. How are you?
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: We're good, Bud, Thanks for hanging out with us. So
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  Speaker 3: let's start with the most pressure to del Deliver in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. You'll love this. This is great summertime topic.
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  Speaker 3: Most pressure to Deliver in twenty twenty six. Kiffin Smart
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: or Sart Luke's Oh, Kiffin, without question.
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  Speaker 4: I mean they they've almost set themselves up for a
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  Speaker 4: nowhere to go but down scenario. When you consider the
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  Speaker 4: pressure and the expectations, the resources that have been allotted,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: the money that has already been spent, the ballet hood,
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: recruiting class, transfer portal class, all of it. I mean,
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: this isn't This isn't like taking the old miss job
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  Speaker 4: and that you get to a nine win season and
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  Speaker 4: they are going to build a statue of you outside
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  Speaker 4: of the stadium. This is a college football playoff top
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  Speaker 4: four or five seed. We expect it right now. Type
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: of expectation and fair or on fair they've created this,
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  Speaker 4: and that's fine because that's the nature of the business.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Stark's gonna have a great football team. I
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: think Kirby's gonna have a great football team. But right now,
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  Speaker 4: this is about Lane establishing LSU as a national title
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  Speaker 4: contender right out of the gate and.
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  Speaker 3: A tough September schedule for Lane with Clemson and Ole
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  Speaker 3: miss and A and m So. Tom Lougan Bill on
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  Speaker 3: the at of bound show which roster would you take today? Texas, Georgia, LSU, Lukes.
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  Speaker 4: Uh Texas and Georgia over LSU's roster. The reason why
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  Speaker 4: I say that is there are more returning, verifiable, proven
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  Speaker 4: players on Texas and Georgia in relationship to guys that
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: have played and been within the program. Right, So when
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: you look at Georgia and Notre Dames. Actually in this
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: conversation too, you look at Georgia and you look at
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Tech and you say, okay, we're the established foundations. Clearly
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  Speaker 4: on the high school side, have they for the most part,
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  Speaker 4: You're not going to be able to do it with everybody,
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  Speaker 4: but have they developed and retained at the high school level? Yes?
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  Speaker 4: And then they supplement and they sprinkle in transfer portal additions.
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  Speaker 4: More than likely, upper classman guys are going to bring experience,
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  Speaker 4: they're going to bring age, they're going to bring maturity,
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  Speaker 4: and right now, from an established standpoint, I mean, you'd
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  Speaker 4: have to take Texas or Georgia.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, But having said all that, LSU's you know, they're
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  Speaker 3: not far off.
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  Speaker 4: No, And I think LSU has got a high ceiling. Okay, Okay,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: but I've said this to you multiple times on your program.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: If Sam Levitt doesn't perform, and more importantly, doesn't stay healthy,
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  Speaker 4: then they're likely going to be, you know, jumping to
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: a youngster if that were to happen, and it's happened
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: a lot with him, right the previous two years at Arizona,
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  Speaker 4: the state, and a lot of the hype, Let's not forget,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of the hype on him was based off
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  Speaker 4: of that twenty twenty four season, right, and not much
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  Speaker 4: other of a sample size to warrant that hype. So
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  Speaker 4: he's gonna have to come through big for them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So eight and four, eight and four will just
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: be a big time disappointment. And you can't get in
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  Speaker 3: at nine and three. I don't with the twelve until
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: we go to sixteen, twenty or twenty four Lukes, which
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: is happening, but we just don't know which number. I
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: think a bunch of SEC teams and Big ten teams
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  Speaker 3: will go at nine and three eventually. But this is
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  Speaker 3: going to be a year where Sankie thought we would
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: have expanded by now. They couldn't get on the same page,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: as you know, but they went ahead and added the
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  Speaker 3: ninth conference game, So we could have a big cluster
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  Speaker 3: of nine and three teams that are on the outside
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  Speaker 3: looking in, even though that could be a good year
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  Speaker 3: in the.
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  Speaker 4: SEC, of course, but you could have that out of
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  Speaker 4: a conference. You could have that out of the out
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  Speaker 4: of the ACC too. What I mean, what if what
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  Speaker 4: if Miami's right there in it again? Uh, Clemson's in
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  Speaker 4: a position right now or for the first time in
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  Speaker 4: what fifteen years? Nobody's talking about them. Yeah, like they're
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  Speaker 4: lying in the weeds to me. You got Louisville, you
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  Speaker 4: got SMU sitting there. There could be a bunch of
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  Speaker 4: teams sitting there at ten and two, nine and three
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  Speaker 4: out of all of the conferences, right and and and
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  Speaker 4: then what do you do? What? What you got to
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  Speaker 4: make sure we don't do is go down last year's path,
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  Speaker 4: and the ACC created that. But to leave teams like
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  Speaker 4: BYU Texas, even Vanderbilt, Notre Dame and Notre Dame at
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  Speaker 4: home in favor of James Madison in Tulane is absolutely
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: laughable because that's the difference. And I think I said
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  Speaker 4: this to you too, Bo. The nobody wants to talk
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  Speaker 4: about Cinderella's and you know those long shots and you
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  Speaker 4: want to root from and this and that. Well, the
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  Speaker 4: difference between the basketball tournament and the football college football
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  Speaker 4: Playoff is basketball doesn't leave the blue blood established program
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  Speaker 4: sitting at home to let the Cinderella in right, right,
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  Speaker 4: We just left those guys at home. And they want
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  Speaker 4: to call it the twelve best teams in college football.
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  Speaker 4: Give me a brink.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, that's a good point on Notre Dame in
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  Speaker 3: Texas and to a certain extent, Bandy going ten and
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  Speaker 3: two sure and getting sure and getting left out. Tom
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  Speaker 3: Logan Bill on the Out of Bounds Show driven by
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  Speaker 3: your next GMC Sierra Truck at Fowler GMC, you mentioned
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  Speaker 3: Notre Dame and you're heavily you know you started it
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  Speaker 3: quarterback at Georgia Tech. You covered the ACC forever. Now
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: you're heavily involved in the ACC. They're tied in with
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: their four or five games a year. But have you
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  Speaker 3: ever in modern era Luke's looked at a schedule that
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: lines up this way considered considering what Marcus Freeman and
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  Speaker 3: Notre Dame are and back.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it's you know what it is. It's the
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  Speaker 4: perfect recipe for a national title run. It's also the
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  Speaker 4: perfect recipe for disaster.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Right, it's a double edged sword. And you know when
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: you look, go look at Notre Dame and the job
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  Speaker 4: that they've done in terms of development and retention. They've
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: got a potential top five pick at quarterback. They've got
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: two young, outstanding offensive tackles on both sides. The biggest
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: thing for me about Notre Dame is they're gonna have
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: to come up with a way of generating pass rush.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: You know, that was something that was lacking a year ago.
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  Speaker 4: I think they've got to increase the output there, create
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: more negative plays in the backfield, get people in second
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: and third and long on a more consistent basis. But
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: everything else is there, man. I mean, they are established
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: and they've got the schedule where outside of probably the
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: Miami contest, it's not even close in terms of roster
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  Speaker 4: profile comparison with Notre Dame and whoever else they're playing.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that games can shup in it is yeah, beautiful, incredible,
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  Speaker 3: and so I mean, we we all have them in
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  Speaker 3: the They could they could screw it up, but we
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  Speaker 3: all have them in the College Football Playoff with their
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: schedule and talent.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, if they're in the top twelve, it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 4: what they do. They're in right right. And if that
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  Speaker 4: roster and that team with that schedule isn't in the
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  Speaker 4: top twelve, then they've had a twenty five Clemson collapse.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right out of bounds. ESPN one oh five nine
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  Speaker 3: to the zone you mentioned Texas, I'm not sure. I
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: know they have the talent. We all know that, But
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm buying so Kaikowski to me
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: like premiere, big time defensive coordinator, musch Champs like good,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: but he's in the B level. I think Kaikowski's in
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: the A level.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't. I don't know if I agree with that.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: I think there's been there. I think there's been plenty
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: of proof that will much Champ is a coordinator is
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  Speaker 4: at the elite level. Now, we all know you got
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: to have players, right, You got to have really really
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: good players, and really really good players make you a
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  Speaker 4: really really good coach. Sure, and Texas is going to
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  Speaker 4: have that. You know it'll be. Now, it might look
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: a little different, they might be a little bit different
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: schematically and things of that nature. But understand too that
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: it's all coming off of the of the same tree
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: and start coached under that tree. Like he knows exactly
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: what they are getting scheme wise on defense, he knows
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  Speaker 4: exactly how it's going to be implemented. He knows what
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: the challenges are playing against that defense. So whether it's
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Mush Champ, Pete Golding, Kirby Smart, whoever it is, you
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: know that you want to look at and say, Okay,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: you know, we know the sab And tree, we know
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: what the scheme is. It's tried and true. You add
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: great players to it, they're going to be a formidable group.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Tom Loganville, national college football analyst with the ESPN on
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: the add of bound Ship, I want to go to
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  Speaker 3: old miss Ki then has established himself. Is it fair
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  Speaker 3: to say Kiffin's established himself the last six years as
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  Speaker 3: a top ten play caller.
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  Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, I agree. I would actually go back to
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: even he is a younger coach, gnashing his teeth and
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: being able to develop as a play caller and a
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: you know, an overseer of the offense, going back to
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: him working under Norm chowd sc in some of those
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: SC offenses and then obviously it became his turn and
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: eventually it became Sark's turn. But yeah, I think where
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: he's done a really good job is he's evolved with
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: the game right. He's added wrinkles, he's eliminated things, he's tweaked,
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: he's became you know, they weren't a tempo team at USC,
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: they weren't let's go as fast as we can team
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: at USC. He's found some positives in that, so he's
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: implemented it. I think the evolution of him not just
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: as a play caller, but to enhance the play call
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: by enhancing the approach. And he's done.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, Now, Trinidad Chambliss and Keewan Lacy have a new
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: play caller who has two years of offensive coordinator experience
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: under his belt in East Carolina and John David Baker
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: and John David Baker said, yeah, it's gonna be a
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: lot of the same, but some different and different terminology.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: So you started at quarterback at Georgia Tech. What I know,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Trinidad and Lacy are going to know the offense and
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: so on, But what does that entail walk us through?
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: There will be some tweaks and different terminology for this
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: ole miss offense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think what you got to do is if you
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: sat there and you put it on paper, right, and
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: you drew out the concepts and this and that, all right,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: it just may mean that instead of calling it a slants,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: we call a glance, all right. Instead of a slant,
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: we called a glance, all right. And instead of a dig,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: we call it over you know, whatever it may be.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: Instead of a comeback, we called a cob. But you're
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: just talking about interchangeable words. But if you visualize it
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: and looked at it, and let's just say you took
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: a play because John David Baker's offenses essentially, I mean,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: it's rooted in old Missus principles. He's coached there before.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: And you drew it and you said, okay, what does
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: this play to you? To a player that played at
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: ole miss a year ago and they look at it.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: They know exactly what it is. Well, so the play
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: is not changing, just what you're calling it maybe shifting
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: a little bit. Now, that's where your off season comes in, right,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: That's where you work in January, February, March, and you
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: head into spring football. And if you can't come out
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: of spring football adjusting to terminology, you're not a very
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: smart football player. And dumb players lose games. So there's
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: going to be very there's going to be very little
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: tolerance to not be able to know what the foundation
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: of the offense is when you see it, but not
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: be able to adjust because you change a couple of
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: things here and there, you tag something, or you called
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: protection something instead of a protection being a name, that's
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: now a number. Okay, well we got to be able
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: to adjust to that. The good part about all of
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: this is by eliminating the second transfer portal period from
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: the time that player has arrived, either through high school
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: recruiting in December or the transfer portal. You know in
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: January one, spring football ended. They're not going anywhere. They're there,
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: so you're not having it. Let's just say take a
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: second group of transfer portal guys that previously would have
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: come in after spring football and now integrate them heading
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: into fall camp. That's already been done. So by the
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: time anybody, whether it's terminology, even if you even if
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: you flip the scheme, even if you brought in an
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: offer at the coordinator that was gonna, you know, run
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: a different style of offense, there's there's gonna be very
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: little tolerance and very little excuses for, especially at the
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: quarterback position, but everybody else as well, to not be
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: dialed in on what you're gonna do.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: It looks like John David Paker throws the ball a
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: good bit more than Kiffin. Kiffin's been somehow we painted
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: him Kiffin is a pass happy offense because we see
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: all the explosive plays, guys running wide open. But as
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: you know, Lane loves to run the football, not that
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: John David Baker won't, but he he skews on the
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: kind of the big twelve, twenty ten, twenty eleven throw
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: it more.
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  Speaker 5: From what I gather, Yeah, you know, I.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: Actually I had East Carolina three times last year, so
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: it became very familiar with them on Thursday Night football,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: and so I think they want to run it more.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: But here's the thing that's, you know, interesting, we forget
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: about this. Either folks don't know it or they don't
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: realize it's happening, because it's not. It's tough to see
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: if you don't know what you're watching, But oftentimes things
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: that materialize in the passing game were called runs in
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: the huddle, right, And so what's happening is is it's
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: really simple math. And that is when you get into
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: that line of scrimmage play and you've either got two
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: plays called in one, you're gonna have a check out
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: of it based off of what the look is. The
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: quarterbacks count numbers, right, and so we may say, hey,
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: we want to run it here, we want to establish
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: this here, but oh boy, they've got seven in the
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: box and we've only got five or six to block them. Well,
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: that's not smart football, right, So we got to get
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: out of that. And if you're going to load the box,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: we want to have one on one opportunities and you're
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: gonna throw the football. Conversely, the exact opposite happens as well.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: You may come into a situation where you've got second
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: and eight and you've got a pass play called and
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: they're in too high and got five people in the box. Well,
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: you're gonna check to run, right, because now you have
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: the numbers advantage, and you're going to try to get
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: five six yards of that and get yourself in second
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: and short, which is the third and short, which is
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: what everybody wants to be in. So it's not necessarily
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: rocket science. It's numbers.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: And you have a veteran quarterback who proved he was
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: arguably the best decision maker maker in the country.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, last year in Trinidad.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: He can get you in and out of those things, right,
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: he knows he knows pre snap. Okay, this is what
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: we ultimately want to be in. We don't want to
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: run this versus this look. We'd ideally love them to
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: be in this look. If we're going to attack them
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: with this, Well, wait that they're not in that look either.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Let's go to something else and understand too, Like at
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: the speed and rate that they're going, how fast that
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: stuff has to happen? Right, And because it's not just
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: the pre snap recognition in the diagnosis once the ball snapped,
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: you've got to produce a positive result. And with offenses
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: like that, they're having to make those determinations anywhere between
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: eleven and fourteen seconds.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: Let's go to.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Jeff Levy, who's on the hot seat and has to
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: win this year, and he has a true sophomore quarterback.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: And I always reference Dak and Eli who back then
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: didn't start until the red shirt sophomore years here and
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: they're both phenomenal. Okay, they hung around forever that so
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: his job is right, you know, is on the line
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: with a true sophomore QB who's six foot four, two thirty.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: You know he can run around, probably not a refined passer,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: yet you played quarterback at the Power four level knowing
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: that you've got to win X amount of games. What
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: would be your I mean, what would be to your
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: approach this year with a true sophomore that played a
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: little bit last year, knowing that he's going to have
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: to carry you over the finish line, so to speak.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: Lukes, Well, I.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Think that's where the off season coaching component comes into play.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: As you mentioned, you've got a small sample size, there's
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: tape to be to be watched, and then you're you're
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: continuing to develop this player's theory of the game knowledge.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: It's not necessarily how big he is how tall he is,
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: it's what can he handle, what can he process? What
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: can he do right? And you're going to test that out.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: That's the spring football's for. You're going to put him
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: in situation to see what he does. You're going to
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: maybe try to trick him into a situation to see
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: if he recognizes it and gets out of it or
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: moves into something. You're going to want to really upgrade
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: that player's knowledge of past protections and how to protect
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: himself and get the team into the right call. So
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: I think so much of the development and an off
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: season between a freshman and sophomore year is really advancing
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: that player's knowledge of the game so that they can
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: think fast and they can play comfortable. Now does that
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: mean that you ask them to do something that maybe
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  Speaker 4: they're not comfortable with or they don't have confidence in.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely not. But that's what you're trying to find out, right.
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  Speaker 4: Because we can talk all we want about scheme and
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  Speaker 4: systems and this and that. The great systems are the
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  Speaker 4: systems that revolve around a player's strengths and then do
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  Speaker 4: everything they can to mask weaknesses. So you're trying to
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  Speaker 4: figure out what that is, right, You're trying to say, okay,
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  Speaker 4: you know, with with somebody like I don't know anybody,
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  Speaker 4: they would have at it at Oklahoma under Jeff Levy,
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  Speaker 4: guys that had Dylan Yah. Yeah, Okay, let's take Dylan
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  Speaker 4: Gabriel for example. Okay, they may do things in the
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  Speaker 4: offense with Dylan Gabriel that they're not gonna do with
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  Speaker 4: Kamaro Taylor, right, And maybe it's not because he's not
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  Speaker 4: capable of doing it, but maybe it's because he's not
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  Speaker 4: capable of doing it yet. Or you're going to implement
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  Speaker 4: some things that Kamaro Taylor does really, really well that
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  Speaker 4: you wouldn't have done with Dylan Gabriel, and whether that's
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  Speaker 4: moving the pocket, changing the launch point, putting in him
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  Speaker 4: in a position to always be able to run in
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  Speaker 4: case things don't happen and he doesn't get through the progression,
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  Speaker 4: but aboording a negative play and doing so. You got
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  Speaker 4: to find those things out and then you build the
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  Speaker 4: day offense around that, right, because you don't want to
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  Speaker 4: stick a square peg in a round hole, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like the old days it used to be, well, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna put this guy into the West Coast offense
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  Speaker 4: or this guy's going to be right in the in
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  Speaker 4: the multiple pro style, and this is who we are
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  Speaker 4: and this is what we're gonna do, and that player
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  Speaker 4: has to adapt. Yes, those days are long gone.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, all right, we'll wrap it up with this Tom
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Lougan Bill on the show ESPN College Football Analysts. Biggest
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  Speaker 3: story coming out of the ACC. Can Belichick get it
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  Speaker 3: done at North Carolina? Can Dabbo reboot Clemson? Or does
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Mario make another run? Or is it another You were
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  Speaker 3: there all week last week. You've got some big names
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  Speaker 3: in the conference. What is it for you?
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  Speaker 4: Tom Lougan Bill, I don't think it's really I don't
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  Speaker 4: think North Carolina's is a big of a storyline unless
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  Speaker 4: they come out of nowhere and just completely have a
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  Speaker 4: reversal of fortune. You know, last year, if you remember,
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  Speaker 4: they were gifted a great schedule and went four and
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  Speaker 4: eight with it. They have not been gifted that schedule
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  Speaker 4: this time around. Their schedule is much more difficult. They
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: are going to have almost as many new faith as
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: as they had a year ago, yet they're going to
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  Speaker 4: be less experienced. I love to hire Bobby Petrino, but
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  Speaker 4: what can he get out of the quarterback and much
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  Speaker 4: better can they be. They gotta be able to run
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  Speaker 4: the football. I mean last year North Carolina, when they
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  Speaker 4: ran for one hundred and forty five yards or more
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  Speaker 4: per game, they were three and oh they only won
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  Speaker 4: four games all right. Last year at Arkansas there were
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  Speaker 4: only two games where Bobby Petrino's offense didn't rush for
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and forty five yards or more. So they're
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: going to try to run the football North Carolina, and
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: they need to because you don't know what the quarterback
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: position is going to be just yet. Miami is to me,
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  Speaker 4: they're the most talented team. They have the best blend
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  Speaker 4: of high school developed recruits and transfer portal additions. For me,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's about how good Miami's going to
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  Speaker 4: be or how good they're capable of being. To me,
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: it's going to be all about did they spend their
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: offseason in their press clippics? Yeah, and you know the
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: pats on the backs and the atta boys. I mean
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: that stuff starts sinking in and all of a sudden,
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: you know, you get caught up in it and you
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  Speaker 4: lose your focus and you're not you know, when you
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: bringing new guys that weren't a part of that run
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  Speaker 4: last year. They didn't have anything to do with that.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Now you got to set that run on your own
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  Speaker 4: with a new team and a new locker room and
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  Speaker 4: new leadership. And I think that's something you know, to
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: keep an eye on. With Miami. I think Clemson is
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: gonna be very interesting to watch because, like I said,
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  Speaker 4: you know when when was the last time we were
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: going into a preseason where all the talk was it Clemson?
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  Speaker 4: You know, So it's gonna be interesting. The quarterback play
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: is actually pretty good in the ecc CJ. Bailey a
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: Nancy State is a stud. Kevin Jennings at SMU is
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: a stud. We obviously know Darien mensa big time player
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  Speaker 4: getting that move to Miami. And you know, we'll see
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: how the whole thing plays out.
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  Speaker 5: Lukes, we appreciate it. Have a good week, my man.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: You bet we'll do same to you.
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