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JFK X Charlie Kirk | Jay Weidner · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 1: TV Plus. So with that down, we have with us
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Speaker 1: today to discuss all of the weird and strangeness surrounding
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Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirk assassination. Author, filmmaker and writer and producer
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Speaker 1: and a star of our documentaries A Clockwork Shining and
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Speaker 1: Jfkix Solving The Crime of the Century. Links in the description,
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Speaker 1: Jay Widener, welcome back to the show. How's it going going?
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Speaker 2: Really good? Mary, Christmas, Happy New Year and everybody.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope everyone had a really good Christmas. Haven't
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Speaker 1: done one. I haven't done it live in a minute.
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Speaker 1: But it's good to see you, Jay, Thanks for coming on.
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Speaker 1: You know, this Charlie Kirk stuff keeps getting stranger and stranger,
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Speaker 1: and the more that I listened to Candae Owens talk
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Speaker 1: about it, the more I see similarities to the JFK
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Speaker 1: assassination above the obvious things that you can piece together,
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Speaker 1: like the public assassination of a political figure, both reportedly
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Speaker 1: being shot in the neck, but little details that seemed
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Speaker 1: to kind of run parallel to one another. So I
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Speaker 1: wanted to bring you on to discuss it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's strange and uh, but just about everything about
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Speaker 2: the the Charlie Kirk tp us A stuff is really weird.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it defies logic and I've kind of gotten
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Speaker 2: into immersed into it, and uh, it's like the weirdest
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Speaker 2: part about the whole thing is that the people that
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Speaker 2: are closest to Charlie are the first ones to agree
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Speaker 2: with the official story, and almost nobody else is willing
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Speaker 2: to do that, And I find that very odd. You
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Speaker 2: think that Charlie's friends would be the ones that would
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Speaker 2: be the most suspicious of everything, since you know, he's
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Speaker 2: stuck his neck out literally, uh and got shot for it.
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Speaker 2: So I find the whole thing really weird. And it's
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Speaker 2: almost like a really bad psychedelic trip or something, because
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Speaker 2: you're talking to somebody and the people are talking and
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Speaker 2: they're acting like we don't see the video. That we
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Speaker 2: saw the video, folks, I mean, you know, our own
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Speaker 2: eyes saw. You don't have to tell us what happened
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Speaker 2: because we saw it, And so they say things that
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Speaker 2: didn't happen, and it just is so strange. And as
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Speaker 2: I understand, their ratings on the radio show are really dropping, uh,
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Speaker 2: And I imagine that there may be in some kind
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Speaker 2: of trouble, but I don't know, I can't figure it out.
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Speaker 2: If if I was just looking at it, you know,
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Speaker 2: from from a you know, a third person party, I
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Speaker 2: would say that it's almost like we're witnessing a takeover,
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Speaker 2: a hostile takeover of TPUs A, and and like everybody's
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Speaker 2: in on it. I mean, I don't want to think that.
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Speaker 2: I'll say that allegedly because I want to think the
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Speaker 2: best of those people. But I just don't know. There's
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Speaker 2: not acting right at all. And here's another thing I've
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Speaker 2: discovered which I wanted to drop on you, and that
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Speaker 2: is that hang on, I gotta find it here here
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Speaker 2: it is. Okay. So Lieutenant Colonel Michael Achino wrote co
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Speaker 2: wrote a book on psychological warfare while he was stationed
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Speaker 2: at the Presidio in San Francisco. He was a lieutenant
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Speaker 2: colonel and he wrote this book, mind Her and the
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Speaker 2: Thing Is, and this became the manual for how to
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Speaker 2: change the minds of large groups of people. Okay, And
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Speaker 2: he was a Satanist. He was a practicing Satanist and
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Speaker 2: never denied it. He was an openly Satanist. Well, the
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Speaker 2: guy he wrote the book with his name Gregory s
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Speaker 2: Cese s E E s E. And I haven't totally
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Speaker 2: proven this yet, but I've heard it from people in
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Speaker 2: the inside. He sits on the board at TPUSA. The
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Speaker 2: guy that co wrote the book on Psychological Warfare with
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Speaker 2: Lieutenant Colonel Michael Luchino noted Satanist. And I find out out,
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Speaker 2: just find it out, and then you know, you kind
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Speaker 2: of think about what what is TPUs A doing And
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Speaker 2: the answer is trying to change the minds of large
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Speaker 2: groups of people, right, And so I don't know. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I have a feeling that since Candace pulled the string
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Speaker 2: on this thing, the entire shirt's going to come undone.
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Speaker 2: And that's what it looks like to me. And when
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Speaker 2: you get somebody like Candace who's like she a tarist,
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Speaker 2: I think she might be like she's just a dog
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Speaker 2: in the fight. I mean, you know, she's not letting
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Speaker 2: go of the ankle, and it says like, you know,
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Speaker 2: there's clap down and no matter how much it's to
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Speaker 2: shake that dog off, it won't let go. And she's
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Speaker 2: not gonna let go. And so we'll see where this goes,
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Speaker 2: because I think she's taking a vacation right now. But
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Speaker 2: the getting back to, you know, the whole thing with JFK.
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Speaker 2: You know, like.
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Speaker 3: You know how they moved him to the hospital so quickly,
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Speaker 3: just like JFK got moved to the hospital so quickly
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Speaker 3: even though they thought that he was dead on arrival,
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Speaker 3: and what she was on both cases, both cases, a
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Speaker 3: guy from a high power are from a high building
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Speaker 3: supposedly shot them.
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Speaker 2: I don't believe that at all though, now on either case,
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Speaker 2: and yeah, there's even kind of kind of allusions to
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Speaker 2: you know, here, here's the thing about that whole thing is,
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Speaker 2: first off, no thirty hot six hit Charlie. I have
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Speaker 2: a thirty hot six I fired at a thousand times. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I'm very familiar with it. I took a tree down
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Speaker 2: with thirty hot sects. That's how powerful that gun is.
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Speaker 2: It would have put his head off. Okay, no way,
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Speaker 2: you're out. It maybe dangling, but it would have been.
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Speaker 2: And buddy. But the other thing that really worries me
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Speaker 2: about this is that when the shirt pops up, you know,
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Speaker 2: does that thing that that I can't understand. I really
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Speaker 2: can't and I cannot figure out a way for that
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Speaker 2: to happen unless it's either one or two choices. It
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Speaker 2: is a microphone thing, just like the Israelis I did
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Speaker 2: with their you know those phones put a little blasters
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Speaker 2: in it, right. It could be that and it ricocheted
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Speaker 2: and hit him, or it could be a squib. I mean,
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Speaker 2: why do I say that it could be a squib?
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Speaker 2: Because Cash Patel, like a day or two after Charlie's murder,
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Speaker 2: he was doing a press conference. At the very end
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Speaker 2: of the press conference, he said, Charlie, I'll see you
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Speaker 2: in Valhalla. And I thought that was really strange, especially
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Speaker 2: because she's of Indian descent and Valhalla is a nurse
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Speaker 2: you know, Sweden Norwegian cultural icon. But and so I wondered,
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Speaker 2: what the heck see you in Valhalla? What neither Charlie
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Speaker 2: or Cash wherever in the military. So, you know, it's
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Speaker 2: kind of a weird thing to say. And then about
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Speaker 2: two weeks ago, I discovered that there's an FBI witness
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Speaker 2: protection program called Valhalla, And I'm like, what what? So
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, that would explain Erica being
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Speaker 2: so easily forgiving of the so called killer. Explained her
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Speaker 2: odd behavior too, by the way, and we explained the
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Speaker 2: odd behavior of everybody at TPUSA. But I'm not saying
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Speaker 2: he did fake his death. I'm just saying, what is
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Speaker 2: what did happened with his shirt? A squib definitely would
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Speaker 2: do that. By the way, if you had a squib
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Speaker 2: under your shirt, it would definitely it would definitely pop
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Speaker 2: up like that. So I'm just saying all these are
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Speaker 2: all alligators allegedly. I'm not saying that they happened. I knew,
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Speaker 2: and you know, he invited me on to speculate about
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Speaker 2: all of this, and I have a lot to speculate on.
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Speaker 2: To be honest with you, it's.
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Speaker 1: Really well, do you remember when the FBI said that
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Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson changed his clothes twice at the event before
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Speaker 1: the assassination took place. While he was on the roof,
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Speaker 1: he switched into different clothes, and then after he shot
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Speaker 1: Charlie switched back in the clothes that he was wearing before,
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Speaker 1: which then sounds really familiar. I actually have the clip
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Speaker 1: here of the FBI talking about it. Let's take a listen.
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Speaker 4: So, so when he's first spotted on campus, he has
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Speaker 4: different clothing on, and then he changes clothing on the roof,
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Speaker 4: and then changed back into that clothing at some point,
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Speaker 4: so that when when he was when he was after hinded,
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Speaker 4: when he when he was arrested, the clothing matched the
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Speaker 4: clothing he had on before the shooting here at VET.
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Speaker 1: Wow, it wasn't that super convoluted. But doesn't that sound familiar?
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Speaker 1: Didn't didn't Oswald have a little change of attire?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, he somehow acquired the black sweater overnight. Somebody
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Speaker 2: dropped it off to him fitting perfectly. He was a
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Speaker 2: slight guy, so couldn't have you know, Uh, yeah, he
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Speaker 2: had chased his clothes, so did the Tyler Robinson, which
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Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense unless you frame it in the
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Speaker 2: way that Canvas frames it. That everybody was wearing a
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Speaker 2: maroon shirt that was in on it, and he had
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Speaker 2: to change into a maroon shirt so that everyone would
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Speaker 2: know that he was in on it. I mean, otherwise,
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Speaker 2: why is he changing his clothes that could do you
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Speaker 2: any good. Also, another thing I have viewed where he
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Speaker 2: was where he supposed to he was when he shot,
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Speaker 2: and there's a walkway, So the roof is here, and
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Speaker 2: he's shooting off a here supposedly, and then like about
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Speaker 2: two feet below the roof there's a walkway where students
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Speaker 2: can walk around. Okay, so anyone could have seen the
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Speaker 2: guy easily. He wasn't hidden, there's no way to hide.
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Speaker 2: It was a flat roof and him laying down. He
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Speaker 2: probably have to lay down to do it on his stomach.
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Speaker 1: Well, the whole thing doesn't make hardly any sense because
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Speaker 1: of the people that's seen supposed to be. A person
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Speaker 1: on the roof said that the person was wearing tactical gear. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so you're telling me that a person got up onto
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Speaker 1: the roof, switched out of their civilian clothes, put on
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Speaker 1: all of this tactical gear, fired the shot, took off
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Speaker 1: all of the tactical gear, and then put on regular
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Speaker 1: civilian clothes again and then jump down off of the roof.
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Speaker 2: And that's that's the other thing is if you look
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Speaker 2: at it a Google Earth of the campus, he didn't
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Speaker 2: have to jump off that roof. It would have been
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Speaker 2: much easier for him to just jump onto the walkway
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Speaker 2: and go down the stairs. Know, it would be a
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Speaker 2: lot less obvious and jumping off a roof. And then
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Speaker 2: there's the strange case of the local policeman pulling over
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Speaker 2: a white Toyota and when he pulls it over, the
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Speaker 2: driver shows him an FBI badge. Then when you look
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Speaker 2: at the video of supposedly Tyler Robinson jumping off the roof,
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Speaker 2: he runs towards the parking lot. He doesn't actually walk
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Speaker 2: into the parking lot. He's on the grass next to
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Speaker 2: the parking lot. And what's going on in the parking
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Speaker 2: lot a white Toyota the same year and model that
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Speaker 2: the policeman said it is paralleling Tyler Robinson. It's obvious,
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Speaker 2: and so you really have to wonder. And then there's
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Speaker 2: the problem with the gun, just like there's a problem
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Speaker 2: with the gun with Oswald. You know, they conveniently find
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Speaker 2: the gun with Oswald and it's guy's face, your prints
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Speaker 2: on it. Well, it didn't have his fingerprints on it. Actually,
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Speaker 2: they had to add the fingerprints later in the morgue.
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Speaker 2: But so Tyler Robinson jumps off the roof when he
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Speaker 2: could have taken the stairs easily, and he runs over
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Speaker 2: across the street to not a really big grassy area
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Speaker 2: but a little small grassy area, and he puts the
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Speaker 2: gun down and then he leaves. Right. Well, the police,
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Speaker 2: the local police arrived and they searched that area. They
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Speaker 2: held hands like you're supposed to do in search and rescue, right,
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Speaker 2: so you can search the whole tire area and you
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Speaker 2: look down. That's how you do it. I've done search
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Speaker 2: and rescue you and all you do is look down.
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Speaker 2: You don't look ahead, You look straight down in front
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Speaker 2: of you for anything that you see. And so they did.
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Speaker 2: They swept the area. Then they brought the bomb dogs in.
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Speaker 2: Bomb dogs Okay, bomb dogs can smell gunpowder. Five days
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Speaker 2: after the gun went off, they can go right to
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Speaker 2: the spot where the gun went off and sniff and
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Speaker 2: say it, that's where the guy fired the gun. Okay,
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Speaker 2: Tyler just fired this gun. So this thing is staking
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Speaker 2: like crazy assault Peter and Sulfur, right, and they put
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Speaker 2: the bombs dogs in there and they didn't find anything.
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Speaker 2: You talk to anybody that does search and rescue or
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Speaker 2: works with dogs, and they'll tell you, Nope, not possible.
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Speaker 2: It's just it's not possible.
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Speaker 1: The FBI shows up, Jay.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, dude. Then the FBI shows up up
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Speaker 2: and they find the gun.
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Speaker 1: So again it supposedly they were asking the police officers
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Speaker 1: really interesting questions too, like how long have you been
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Speaker 1: on the police force? You know, what your credentials. So
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Speaker 1: they essentially got a bunch of rookie police officers. Go
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Speaker 1: over here, look at this area that you already searched.
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Speaker 1: We know that you've already done the search and rescue
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Speaker 1: on this area, we know that you've already taken in
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Speaker 1: the bomb dogs to sniff this area for a gun
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Speaker 1: that was just fired. But go over there and search
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Speaker 1: that area one more time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they purposely picked the rookies and the guys
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Speaker 2: with like one year experience and left the veterans out
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Speaker 2: of it. Uh And and the local police, you know,
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Speaker 2: they said that it was it was if the the
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Speaker 2: FBI was doing everything to obstruct their investigation into it.
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Speaker 2: And so that again parallel is the Kennedy assassination, where
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Speaker 2: it was definitely the FBI obstructing the investigation. Private investigators
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Speaker 2: like Mark I forget his name, the very first conspiracy
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Speaker 2: a JFK guy, Mark Mark Lerner. Can't remember his name.
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Speaker 2: Somebody out there will remember. He was a great guy.
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Speaker 2: He was also a JONESTOWND when jonestown happened, probably ce
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Speaker 2: I A anyway, Yeah, and and you know, and then
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Speaker 2: there's the Limmo when Kennedy's limo was taken and destroyed,
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Speaker 2: and then Charlie's rental car that he drove to the
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Speaker 2: hospital in was destroyed, and it's like, wait a minute,
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Speaker 2: that's evidence. What are you doing? And I also say this,
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Speaker 2: and nobody pointed this out. If we do JFK X two,
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Speaker 2: though it's gonna be a big part of it, there
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Speaker 2: are up until the Charlie Kirk assassination. As far as
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Speaker 2: I know, there's two murders that have occurred that the
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Speaker 2: police did not do any forensic investigation of the two
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Speaker 2: murders at all, and that would be JFK and Oswald.
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Speaker 2: There was no forensic investigation. Nobody went to the went
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Speaker 2: to the Triple Underpass and picked up blood samples and
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Speaker 2: tissue samples and glass and no nobody did anything like that.
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Speaker 2: There was no investigation into the jfk uh forensic investigat
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Speaker 2: into the jk assassination by the Dallas police, nor did
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Speaker 2: the Dallas police do any forensic investigation of the murder
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Speaker 2: of Lee Harvey Oswald. Very odd and it appears that
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Speaker 2: the police, I don't know TPUSA came in and started
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Speaker 2: moving for an insur around right after Charlie was shot
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Speaker 2: and messing with the crime scene and taking SD cards
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Speaker 2: and not the camera, just the SD card. He's worried
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Speaker 2: about theft, but he doesn't take the very expensive camera.
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Speaker 2: He takes the SD card which costs about four bucks.
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Speaker 2: And we've never seen that what's on that SD card
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Speaker 2: either they haven't shown us. And you know, and then
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Speaker 2: just the high weirdness by law enforcement, not local though
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Speaker 2: just like the Dallas police, we're probably told not to
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Speaker 2: do a forensic investigation that the FBI would handle it
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Speaker 2: for both Kennedy and as well, and so they didn't.
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Speaker 2: That's what I assumed, because the Dallas police actually looked
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Speaker 2: like they cared about things. I mean, from what we
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Speaker 2: can see post mortem on the assassination, just like it
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Speaker 2: looks like the local police and Utah care. There's about
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Speaker 2: to care. But it also looks like they were told
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Speaker 2: not to investigate the crime scene because where's their report
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Speaker 2: on the crime scene. Where's the FBI's report on the
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Speaker 2: crime scene, Where's the report, where's the autopsy, where's the
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Speaker 2: deaths certificate? Where's Charlie buried? And you know, I mean
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Speaker 2: why would they hide where he's buried? I mean, you know,
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Speaker 2: would be probably a lot of people would like to
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Speaker 2: visit that and pay their respects to him.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't even think that he
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Speaker 1: has well from what a lot of other people are
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Speaker 1: saying is that he's not even buried. That they haven't
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Speaker 1: even buried him yet, which is so strange.
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Speaker 2: But was the.
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Speaker 1: The gun that Oswald the Kircano was They knew about
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Speaker 1: that gun before the gun was discovered.
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Speaker 2: The Dallas police announced it's in our movie. They announced
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Speaker 2: that they that the guy had had a man liquor krkano.
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Speaker 2: How can they know that? They didn't even find it
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Speaker 2: until like three hours after the assassination in a box
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Speaker 2: on the sixth floor with one of Johnson's top assistant's
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Speaker 2: fingerprint on that box by the way. Uh yeah, and
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Speaker 2: so you know, we the only difference, the only thing
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Speaker 2: I will say that's different between the two assassinations is that, uh,
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Speaker 2: Jackie acted like a woman acts when her husband is
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Speaker 2: brutally assassinated. And I can't say everybody agrees different. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's true, But Erica I just having a very hard
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Speaker 2: time with her at her grieving. It just it's not sincere.
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Speaker 2: I mean, just doesn't appear to be sincere to me.
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Speaker 2: And I've worked with actors, and I know how you can,
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Speaker 2: you know, cough up a sincere her act and she
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Speaker 2: clearly can't do it. So I don't know now.
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Speaker 1: When you move on to the vehicle comparison here to
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Speaker 1: what happened to the modified limo that JFK was supposedly
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Speaker 1: shot in, that was that was a modified limo, right.
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Speaker 1: They modified it to include an extra bench seat for Connor.
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Speaker 2: Like three months before the assassination. They modified the whole thing,
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Speaker 2: and that's why I think that they may have put
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Speaker 2: a panic room in the truck case of trouble. But
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Speaker 2: they did modify it and then they extended it out.
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Speaker 2: It did have just had four seats, and then they
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Speaker 2: added two more so it had six, so they stretched
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Speaker 2: it out. That must have been really expensive, by the way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so JFK's Limo wasn't impounded for evidence. The car
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Speaker 1: was cleaned and repaired. They did it within days after
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Speaker 1: the assassination, before the warrant commission even began. The investigation
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Speaker 1: was just another coincidence because the exact same thing happened
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Speaker 1: with Charlie Kirk's vehicle. It wasn't impounded in evidence, it
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Speaker 1: wasn't sweeped for forensic evidence, and it was just auctioned
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Speaker 1: off days after. You think, Jay, if you were doing
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Speaker 1: a real investigation, a real true investigation, that you would
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Speaker 1: want to keep every bit of evidence intact. You wouldn't
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Speaker 1: pave over the location, you wouldn't demolish a location where
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Speaker 1: this assassination took place. You wouldn't auction off his vehicle.
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Speaker 1: But that following Monday, right, But that's not even the
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Speaker 1: end of that. Even the reasonings are the same as
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Speaker 1: of the reasons why the Warren Commission said that why
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Speaker 1: JFK's Limo wasn't impounded in evidence was because they wanted
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Speaker 1: to remove traumatic evidence. Right, But yet they can use
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Speaker 1: Oswald's gun in all of the reenactments of the assassination
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Speaker 1: and the gun, the gun isn't traumatic, Jay, the gun's
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Speaker 1: not traumatic, but the limo is traumatic. We got to
22:31
Speaker 1: get rid of that. That's the exact same reason that
22:35
Speaker 1: the company's owner of the rental car that Charlie Kirk
22:39
Speaker 1: was driving. That's the exact same excuse he said that
22:43
Speaker 1: get rid of it, auction it off because I don't
22:49
Speaker 1: want it to be traumatic for the people that worked
22:52
Speaker 1: at the company.
22:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just a really a pathetic excuse if I've
22:58
Speaker 2: ever heard it. And yeah, you're right, you would want
23:00
Speaker 2: to keep all evidence, he wouldn't You want to keep
23:04
Speaker 2: that car wrapped in plastic, that SUV, you'd want to
23:08
Speaker 2: wrap it in plastic so nobody can touch it or
23:11
Speaker 2: mess with it until you do a complete and utter
23:13
Speaker 2: forensic investigation of everything. But they didn't. And yeah, it's
23:21
Speaker 2: just lone gunman, high powered rifle that nobody hears. By
23:29
Speaker 2: the way, again, just like in the Kennedy assassination, nobody
23:34
Speaker 2: reacts to the gunshot. They only react when Charlie falls
23:38
Speaker 2: off the chair. You hear thirty odd six ripping the
23:43
Speaker 2: air above your head. Believe me, you're going to be
23:46
Speaker 2: on the ground flat before Charlie gets hit. It's absolutely
23:52
Speaker 2: terrifying sound and you don't really hear it when you
23:57
Speaker 2: look at videotapes of it. It couldn't possibly be a
24:00
Speaker 2: thirty odd six. It would be so loud. The same
24:04
Speaker 2: thing with Oswald and firing his high powered rifle. It
24:07
Speaker 2: would be so loud that everybody would be hitting the
24:10
Speaker 2: deck scared that they're going to get shot. But nobody
24:14
Speaker 2: does anything, not until Kennedy falls over, just like when
24:18
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk falls. But then people start reacting, but they
24:21
Speaker 2: don't react before that, and that's just suspicious to sell.
24:24
Speaker 2: I'm sorry as a guy who's worked with guns my
24:26
Speaker 2: whole life, and just I don't think so. It's just
24:30
Speaker 2: you know, I had a thirty YDT six fired over
24:32
Speaker 2: my head one time. It was frigging terror. You could
24:35
Speaker 2: feel the wind, You could feel the wind literally of
24:39
Speaker 2: the air being cut by the whatever through a twelve
24:43
Speaker 2: hundred feet a second or whatever it is. And so
24:46
Speaker 2: now and a lot of guys like that guy, the
24:50
Speaker 2: ex Green Beret Valhalla on YouTube, he doesn't buy it.
24:55
Speaker 2: He's fired through thirty hot sixers for thousands of times.
24:59
Speaker 2: So so many parallels. But we still have to think
25:05
Speaker 2: that there is a possibility that Charlie saw jok X. Well,
25:17
Speaker 2: a lot of my problems. A did Soul's house just
25:24
Speaker 2: what four months before the assassination for five million bucks,
25:28
Speaker 2: which is kind of weird. And then there's the remark
25:32
Speaker 2: about the uh, the the witness protection program by cash Ptel,
25:38
Speaker 2: which could I could not. He didn't say witness protection,
25:43
Speaker 2: he said Valhalla. But there is a program and a
25:46
Speaker 2: place apparently where they bring witnesses to protect them, and
25:50
Speaker 2: it's called Valhalla. So I don't know.
25:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm back and forth on it. I'm back
25:59
Speaker 1: in forth on if it was really it really.
26:03
Speaker 2: Happened while they trailed them to the cars. Also another
26:08
Speaker 2: suspicious there isn't even one drop on the concrete, so
26:12
Speaker 2: that's kind of weird too. And also they insisted on
26:19
Speaker 2: parking that suv there. They got an altercation with somebody
26:24
Speaker 2: at the college and they insistent at the suv b
26:27
Speaker 2: parked there instead of further away in a parking lot,
26:31
Speaker 2: and so I don't know what you know, what that's
26:32
Speaker 2: about either. And then there's a you know, the palm
26:36
Speaker 2: pistol guy, right, I'm sure you've seen that guy, and
26:40
Speaker 2: then he runs over and starts helping Charlie. Right, the
26:44
Speaker 2: same guy, you know, the same exact guy that does
26:46
Speaker 2: the palm pistol is one of the three guys that's
26:49
Speaker 2: working on Charlie behind the table that you can't see
26:53
Speaker 2: what they're actually doing for like thirty seconds. Why they're
26:56
Speaker 2: not putting their uh uh put you know, grabbed teeing
27:01
Speaker 2: off their shirts and jamming the shirt into the wound
27:04
Speaker 2: and stop the bleeding. That's what I would have done, right.
27:07
Speaker 2: And on top of that, and this is a bona
27:10
Speaker 2: fi fact, there was emergency medical team there and they
27:16
Speaker 2: offered as as they were putting Charlie in the in
27:19
Speaker 2: the limo or in the suv, they guy walked up
27:23
Speaker 2: and offered it to one of the guys getting in
27:25
Speaker 2: the passenger seat. His e MT box which all the
27:30
Speaker 2: guys goes and bandages and clips and all the stuff
27:35
Speaker 2: they need and they said no, they got in and
27:37
Speaker 2: they left. That really happened. I saw that. I saw
27:40
Speaker 2: that video with my own eyes. So again we're now
27:45
Speaker 2: and and the other thing that's really interesting now is
27:48
Speaker 2: we're now moving into a place where the Internet has
27:55
Speaker 2: become a place where we have citizen investigators who are
28:04
Speaker 2: doing it for free and comparing notes and seeing things.
28:09
Speaker 2: And I don't think that the powers that be you've
28:12
Speaker 2: ever ever considered this might happen, And so they can't
28:19
Speaker 2: really pull it off anymore. And furthermore, we don't believe
28:23
Speaker 2: them anymore. So they're caught in quite a quandary because
28:26
Speaker 2: they think you can continue pulling off these kinds of
28:31
Speaker 2: things and getting away with it, and it's just not
28:33
Speaker 2: working anymore. It never worked on me, but now I
28:38
Speaker 2: can see that it's not working on anybody anymore, not
28:40
Speaker 2: even you know, the most ill conceived, ignorant person is
28:46
Speaker 2: beginning to wonder and be very suspicious about what's happening,
28:51
Speaker 2: not just in the Kirk murder, but in a lot
28:53
Speaker 2: of things. Well.
28:57
Speaker 1: Speaking of reenactments, at the Turning Point USA that was
29:00
Speaker 1: held a few weeks back, they made an exact setup.
29:03
Speaker 1: Did you see this where They made the exact setup
29:06
Speaker 1: with the tent and everything from the Charlie Kirk assassination
29:10
Speaker 1: a replica of for everyone to see.
29:12
Speaker 2: You know, talking about and.
29:15
Speaker 1: Wanting to keep everybody from being retraumatized. They just made
29:18
Speaker 1: an exact replica and reenact me. Here's a video see
29:21
Speaker 1: from behind me.
29:22
Speaker 2: This is a recreation of the tent where Charlie Kirk
29:26
Speaker 2: lost his life at Utah University in September, and people
29:30
Speaker 2: are taking selfies with it.
29:31
Speaker 1: You can see people are taking selfies inside of the
29:36
Speaker 1: reenactment tent of the Charlie Kirk assassination. But we don't
29:40
Speaker 1: want everyone to be re traumatized. We got to get
29:42
Speaker 1: rid of the vehicle is car rental vehicle. But we'll
29:46
Speaker 1: make a reenactment tent.
29:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were people were there putting on the
29:51
Speaker 2: exact t shirt he had on and then taking selfies
29:55
Speaker 2: inside the tent. What what is going on? Okay? It
30:03
Speaker 2: could be one thing. I follow this Indian doctor h
30:09
Speaker 2: lectures on YouTube and he says that the the thing,
30:16
Speaker 2: that thing you remember, that thing that we had to do.
30:18
Speaker 2: He said that that thing destroys neurology, that it goes
30:22
Speaker 2: into the brain and destroys the brain, and he says
30:25
Speaker 2: that the whole everybody who is going to go out
30:30
Speaker 2: of their mind. So maybe that's what's going on. Maybe
30:33
Speaker 2: we're just you know, regular people watching a bunch of
30:37
Speaker 2: people that are losing their mind so they can't what's that?
30:42
Speaker 2: What's that? Bob Dylanan everybody's forgotten how to act? You know,
30:47
Speaker 2: it's like that, right, it's like this is what people
30:51
Speaker 2: don't act like that? What's going on here? I don't know.
30:55
Speaker 2: Did tp USA get the you know what? They probably did.
31:00
Speaker 1: Oh, a lot of them probably did. And another interesting
31:03
Speaker 1: part of this is the coroner report. Do you remember
31:08
Speaker 1: in the beginning when the someone said that the coroner
31:11
Speaker 1: reportedly said, Charlie Kirkson Neck was like the man of steel,
31:15
Speaker 1: Remember that I didn't stop the bullet from injuring.
31:18
Speaker 2: And that turned out to be a lie. We've asked
31:20
Speaker 2: that guy and he said, I didn't say that. The
31:23
Speaker 2: dumb ass thing to say. Who wanted to what doctor
31:27
Speaker 2: would want to be labeled such an acidite statement? No,
31:31
Speaker 2: that was at what's his name had to have made
31:33
Speaker 2: that up. The guy that reported it, I can't remember
31:36
Speaker 2: his name now.
31:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, it turns out that that wasn't real, and
31:41
Speaker 1: that he said that it was more likely a frangible
31:46
Speaker 1: bullet that exploded into dust upon impact. And this is
31:50
Speaker 1: a different side of kind of what we've been talking
31:54
Speaker 1: about here, which I want to give different perspectives here.
31:57
Speaker 1: Because frangible bullets were ridge only designed for handgun in
32:04
Speaker 1: close quarters combat, right, They only later developed for rifle platforms.
32:10
Speaker 1: Their primary purpose was and always has been safety in
32:16
Speaker 1: close range environments, not long range performance. While they do
32:21
Speaker 1: make frangible bullets for rifles, they are only used in
32:25
Speaker 1: training exercise for the military or the police. They literally
32:28
Speaker 1: have no purpose outside of that. Shooting a fragible bullet
32:34
Speaker 1: out of a rifle no one would do. Definitely not
32:38
Speaker 1: past one hundred yards because you risk a midair breakup
32:44
Speaker 1: of the bullet and it greatly decreases accuracy past one
32:48
Speaker 1: hundred years. And how many yards did they say that
32:52
Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson was away from Charlie Kirk one hundred and
32:55
Speaker 1: forty two yards? There's no way. Frangible bullets and rifles
33:00
Speaker 1: are not designed for accuracy, hunting or combat or penetration
33:06
Speaker 1: only at a close distance out of a handgun. So
33:10
Speaker 1: then that brings in the question, which is what I
33:13
Speaker 1: said from the very beginning, this is the first time
33:16
Speaker 1: that I've ever done a show on Charlie Kirk, because
33:18
Speaker 1: in the beginning, this is too much. There's too much
33:21
Speaker 1: going on. There's too many fake things that people are
33:24
Speaker 1: posting about. This the convolute, the entire thing. But now
33:27
Speaker 1: that we have more of a dialed in narrative and
33:30
Speaker 1: Candice has done a lot of work in this area,
33:33
Speaker 1: I think that we can kind of start to come
33:35
Speaker 1: to conclusions. But what I had said to my close friends,
33:39
Speaker 1: and I think I even mentioned it to you, was
33:43
Speaker 1: that I believe that it was a close up shot,
33:47
Speaker 1: that it was somebody really really close to him. If
33:52
Speaker 1: it was a gun, and it did happen, it could
33:55
Speaker 1: have been from a frangible bullet, and it was shot
33:57
Speaker 1: from a handgun at very close range.
34:00
Speaker 2: Well, the few people that have been interviewed that were there,
34:03
Speaker 2: they stay the ones closest to the stage, so that
34:08
Speaker 2: they thought it came right from nearby. They thought that
34:12
Speaker 2: the sound was right from nearby, and and yeah, that's
34:18
Speaker 2: what I think too. I think it was a close
34:20
Speaker 2: range I think it was probably a twenty two. That's
34:23
Speaker 2: the weapon of choice for hitman. People don't know that
34:27
Speaker 2: they think they use high power weapons. They don't. They
34:31
Speaker 2: want to hit you as close as to your head
34:32
Speaker 2: as you can with the twenty two because it'll bounce
34:35
Speaker 2: around inside the head and ruin the bullets, so the
34:38
Speaker 2: all forensics are destroyed. So that's where you would want.
34:44
Speaker 2: But I mean, hitting here's a really smart move for
34:47
Speaker 2: assassin because it's much more mass so you're going to
34:50
Speaker 2: probably get a better shot. So that part makes sense.
34:54
Speaker 2: But yeah, I believe that it was somebody somewhere and
35:00
Speaker 2: they shot him with a smaller caliber weapon and and yeah,
35:09
Speaker 2: nobody's and then everybody seemed to not really take care
35:13
Speaker 2: of Charlie very well. I don't think as a person
35:17
Speaker 2: who's been taught, you know, how to take care of
35:21
Speaker 2: people in gunshot situations. Nobody did anything right, nobody. You
35:27
Speaker 2: don't carry that guy. You don't carry a guy like that.
35:30
Speaker 2: If he did, you have them all each him up
35:33
Speaker 2: with somebody holding on the wound, and everybody should have
35:38
Speaker 2: had their shirts off so they could use it soak
35:41
Speaker 2: up the blood for him. And then they should have frankly,
35:45
Speaker 2: they should have called an ambulance, is what they should
35:48
Speaker 2: have done. So you know, nobody did anything right at all,
35:54
Speaker 2: and they don't seem to want to talk about it,
35:57
Speaker 2: which is really strange. And yeah, we don't really want
36:03
Speaker 2: to talk about but I like my favorite part about
36:05
Speaker 2: Candice is when she'll name something that somebody said or
36:10
Speaker 2: did and then she'll do this, no, no, I'm not
36:15
Speaker 2: feeling good about this, Like that's what my mom would
36:18
Speaker 2: do to me when I told her a lie. She goes, no, no,
36:22
Speaker 2: I don't think so. And that's what that's what exactly
36:25
Speaker 2: what I do with with when I hear it's like, no,
36:29
Speaker 2: that ain't life. That's how it goes here. This is
36:32
Speaker 2: this is earth. We have we have physics, and we
36:35
Speaker 2: have rules and things like that just don't happen. I
36:38
Speaker 2: mean the Mikey, Mike Mikey whatever his name is. Okay,
36:43
Speaker 2: he's on the phone when Charlie gets it, and he
36:47
Speaker 2: doesn't even look at Charlie. He turns around and walks
36:50
Speaker 2: out of the tent area with talking on the phone.
36:53
Speaker 2: Clearly it's like I said, I don't know, That's not
36:57
Speaker 2: how i'd react if my friend got shot in front
36:59
Speaker 2: of me. Yeah, I might duck down because I'm not
37:02
Speaker 2: sure there's more shots coming or something like that. But
37:06
Speaker 2: I'm not locking away from my friend. If I just
37:08
Speaker 2: watched her get shot, just I'm not. I know, I wouldn't.
37:11
Speaker 2: I know, I wouldn't. I've had somebody get shot one
37:15
Speaker 2: time in San Francisco. I didn't even know, and I
37:17
Speaker 2: went to over and tried to help him. Right, So
37:22
Speaker 2: there's something that right here, and I don't know what
37:23
Speaker 2: it is. I don't know if we'll ever find out,
37:26
Speaker 2: Just like in the Kennedy assassination, what really happened there,
37:29
Speaker 2: you know, really happened.
37:32
Speaker 1: We got someone in the chat here saying, I can't
37:34
Speaker 1: believe you guys think someone other than Tyler Robinson did this.
37:37
Speaker 1: It would be too damn obvious. What do you mean?
37:40
Speaker 1: What do you mean? As it stands, the only evidence
37:43
Speaker 1: that we have that Tyler Robinson was the person that
37:46
Speaker 1: shot Charlie Kirk is the text messages between him and
37:49
Speaker 1: his boyfriend girlfriend whatever. Right, The prints on the gun
37:55
Speaker 1: have multiple prints on them, So the FBI is banking
37:58
Speaker 1: the entire case on text messag just between him and
38:01
Speaker 1: his significant other, which is kind of the type of
38:06
Speaker 1: thing that happened with Oswald. Right, Everything is, you know,
38:09
Speaker 1: coincidental with Oswald.
38:10
Speaker 2: And the dates on those messages. By the way, how
38:14
Speaker 2: is our is that there's no time dates, they're not dated.
38:18
Speaker 2: We don't know what anybody could have written those. Anybody
38:21
Speaker 2: could have written those.
38:23
Speaker 1: So, you know, I don't understand what they think that
38:28
Speaker 1: they're going to convict this guy on other than him
38:31
Speaker 1: something that he did it. There's literally no other evidence.
38:35
Speaker 2: Actually unless his lawyers cooked, which could be. But mean,
38:41
Speaker 2: if I was his lawyer, I would be ringing up.
38:44
Speaker 2: I'd have six or seven green berets do tests with
38:48
Speaker 2: thirty odd sixes I would I'd have them testify I
38:52
Speaker 2: have I would be doing a lot of stuff to
38:55
Speaker 2: show that this is the most improbable set of circumstances
38:59
Speaker 2: with people acting weirder than hell, that I've ever seen, honestly,
39:04
Speaker 2: And I'm a true crime you know, fan, and I
39:08
Speaker 2: used to investigate stuff with the police, and I'm telling
39:11
Speaker 2: you this is really really suspicious, like more suspicious than
39:17
Speaker 2: anything I've ever seen.
39:19
Speaker 1: The FBI hasn't reached out to any of the witnesses.
39:22
Speaker 1: They haven't reached out to any of the people that
39:24
Speaker 1: have taken video that day. Okay, so what evidence are
39:28
Speaker 1: what evidence do they have in the whole story of
39:33
Speaker 1: that that came out in the very beginning that Tyler
39:35
Speaker 1: Robinson turned himself in is only half true. It's not
39:40
Speaker 1: even the FBI literally contacted him and was like, you
39:43
Speaker 1: need to turn yourself in or we're going to raid
39:45
Speaker 1: your house, and then him the video and they have
39:51
Speaker 1: no video of him coming in.
39:54
Speaker 2: I mean, this is painful, very painful. And you know,
39:58
Speaker 2: is Tyler Robinson involved, Yeah, he could be. He could be.
40:01
Speaker 2: He could be involved, very sure, and he may even
40:05
Speaker 2: taken a shot. We don't know. But you know, he
40:10
Speaker 2: was visited. The neighbors say that that there were strange
40:13
Speaker 2: cars at his house a week or before the the assassination,
40:19
Speaker 2: with strange people there talking to him. And but he's
40:23
Speaker 2: never been to the campus ever in his life. You know,
40:30
Speaker 2: the amount of luck that he had to get pulled
40:32
Speaker 2: that off without anyone actually seeing it happen is beyond chance.
40:39
Speaker 2: It's just no way. And it wasn't like he was
40:41
Speaker 2: hiding somewhere. He was not hiding anywhere. He's perfectly open
40:45
Speaker 2: a flat roof, and you know, and then there's the
40:48
Speaker 2: other things like what's his name, Tarpool, what's his name?
41:00
Speaker 2: He's the head of security, Brian Harpool was on Sean
41:05
Speaker 2: Ryan's show and a very interesting show to watch, and
41:09
Speaker 2: Sean asked the head of security, why didn't you have
41:12
Speaker 2: drones and he said, oh, you can't fly drones at
41:15
Speaker 2: the campus. It's illegal. Charlie was watching drone footage on
41:20
Speaker 2: his way in that they were filming of the crowd. Okay,
41:24
Speaker 2: So it's just why is he lying? Why is he lying?
41:28
Speaker 2: And also why isn't Brian Hartpool just tell us where
41:31
Speaker 2: he was on the on the ninth of September. What
41:35
Speaker 2: what if somebody said Jay, I saw Jay at this
41:41
Speaker 2: meeting with all these military people on this day at
41:44
Speaker 2: this time. You know, the first thing I'm going to say,
41:46
Speaker 2: I was not there. I was here, and I would say,
41:49
Speaker 2: within five minutes of hearing it, I would have it
41:51
Speaker 2: out that I was not there. I would make sure
41:54
Speaker 2: the whole world knew that I wasn't there. But then
41:57
Speaker 2: that Canvae witness said that he saw Erica there and
42:01
Speaker 2: the night before on the eighth, Well, Brian Harpool is
42:05
Speaker 2: Ericus had Eric, he guards her, So you know, why
42:11
Speaker 2: doesn't Eric just got how was it there? The guy
42:14
Speaker 2: obviously misidentified me. There's a lot of bottom women that
42:17
Speaker 2: looked like me, right, just say that. But so again
42:23
Speaker 2: just doesn't just doesn't make any sense, you know.
42:30
Speaker 1: Yeah. The whole thing with uh And that's the thing
42:33
Speaker 1: is people coming after Candice and acting like that she's
42:36
Speaker 1: the one that said all this stuff that, you know,
42:39
Speaker 1: and it's not. And that's the thing is that these
42:42
Speaker 1: people they make it seem like that all of this
42:46
Speaker 1: stuff like that. It can't be all of these things.
42:50
Speaker 1: That's how an operation works, that's right. You have multiple people,
42:54
Speaker 1: multiple organizations involved to pull something off. It's like Pierce Morgan,
42:59
Speaker 1: he was like, you're talking about the Russian planes, You're
43:02
Speaker 1: implicating TPUSA, you're implicating Erica Kirk, you're implicating the FBI.
43:07
Speaker 1: It can't be all of those things, can it?
43:10
Speaker 2: Well?
43:10
Speaker 1: Yeah it can. How do you think that all this
43:13
Speaker 1: stuff works?
43:15
Speaker 2: Yeah? And Eric is saying that she never flew on
43:18
Speaker 2: an Egyptian plane. That was just so disingenuous because Candide
43:21
Speaker 2: Neerver said she flew on the Egyptian plane. Nobody said
43:24
Speaker 2: that she flew on an Egyptian plane. So are they
43:27
Speaker 2: not listening to what Kansas is saying or there's something
43:31
Speaker 2: else going on. And again, look who's coming after Candace,
43:36
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, out of the blue, right, we
43:38
Speaker 2: have Timpoole, Alex Jones, George Webb. There's another one in
43:46
Speaker 2: there too, also in the all just start attacking Candas
43:50
Speaker 2: and what they're saying is not true. Because I watched
43:54
Speaker 2: every single show that Kansas has done. I know exactly
43:57
Speaker 2: what she said. I know she's been very spful. She
44:00
Speaker 2: said several times that it could be someone who just
44:03
Speaker 2: looks like Brian Harpool, it could be somebody just looks
44:05
Speaker 2: like Erica Kirk there that he just misidentified. So the
44:09
Speaker 2: easiest thing to do is just say that you weren't
44:12
Speaker 2: there and we so we can now write it. I was, oh, okay, okay,
44:15
Speaker 2: that's cool, and maybe proofs where you were that would
44:19
Speaker 2: be nice. But no, we're not getting any of it,
44:22
Speaker 2: which just stinks. I'm sorry. If I was an investigator
44:27
Speaker 2: on this case, I would be getting very suspicious of
44:31
Speaker 2: certain people. I'm just sorry. I would. They have an interest,
44:34
Speaker 2: they have motive. You know, there's millions of dollars involved,
44:42
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty million dollars they've raised since Charlie died.
44:46
Speaker 2: And and do I believe a twenty two year old
44:51
Speaker 2: kid could climb up on a roof, put together a
44:55
Speaker 2: high powered rifle, take a shot. Then would you're adrenaline
45:00
Speaker 2: would have to be rushing, like no tomorrow, when you
45:04
Speaker 2: just killed a person and you know that everybody's going
45:07
Speaker 2: to start looking for you. But no, he calmly changes
45:09
Speaker 2: his clothes. He calmly takes the gun apart, puts it
45:13
Speaker 2: in a backpack. That can't take that gun. It's too
45:16
Speaker 2: big for that backpack. Everybody's gone through all of this already.
45:20
Speaker 2: We all know the gun couldn't have fit in there.
45:22
Speaker 2: So the changes there, Oh, which it slipped down his leg? Okay,
45:26
Speaker 2: well all right, put it down his pants like okay,
45:29
Speaker 2: I guess so. But when he jumps off the roof,
45:32
Speaker 2: he's not looking with it, walking with a stiff leg,
45:36
Speaker 2: So I don't know what you're talking about. He's running actually,
45:38
Speaker 2: so I don't know. If I was a journeyman, i'd
45:42
Speaker 2: be ripping that case apart like no tomorrow. And again,
45:46
Speaker 2: we haven't ready read the FBI report either, so we
45:49
Speaker 2: don't even know what they think. We just we just
45:52
Speaker 2: know what cash Betel is saying in public.
45:56
Speaker 1: So the gun is disassembled. He goes on the roof,
46:00
Speaker 1: changes into tactical gear, assembles the gun, takes the shot,
46:04
Speaker 1: disassembles the gun, gets out of his tactical gear, puts
46:09
Speaker 1: the gun into a backpack, jumps off of the roof,
46:12
Speaker 1: goes into the woods, reassembles the gun for the FBI
46:17
Speaker 1: to find. That is a that's a if you if
46:23
Speaker 1: you believe that, then you are more than welcome to
46:25
Speaker 1: believe that. If you if you want to think that
46:28
Speaker 1: that is what happened, then go ahead. But there is
46:33
Speaker 1: something in my gut from the very beginning that none
46:36
Speaker 1: of this stuff is adding up. No, it doesn't add up.
46:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, same with my gut. My guys just screaming at me, No, no,
46:46
Speaker 2: this is not true. This is not the way it
46:48
Speaker 2: went down. Right. So and again, you know the people
46:54
Speaker 2: in the audience, you know Judge gave him, they can't
46:58
Speaker 2: say anything, they can't do any interviews. Judge put an
47:03
Speaker 2: order on the entire everybody that was there has to
47:06
Speaker 2: stay quiet. Say why would you do that? I mean,
47:10
Speaker 2: why why can't we talk to some of the people
47:12
Speaker 2: that were witnessed it. And then apparently that's not true either,
47:16
Speaker 2: because four guys all went on some show and they
47:21
Speaker 2: were all witnesses, and this is after the judge gave
47:23
Speaker 2: the order and they all started talking about what they saw.
47:26
Speaker 2: But what was weird is that the four people were
47:29
Speaker 2: all in their forties and fifties, and this is on
47:32
Speaker 2: a college campus thing. It's say, well, why can't we
47:36
Speaker 2: get some like twenty one year olds tell us what
47:38
Speaker 2: they saw, you know, because they got twenty one year
47:41
Speaker 2: old eyes a lot better than forty five year old eyes,
47:44
Speaker 2: so can we you know? But they don't. We're not
47:47
Speaker 2: getting any eyewitnesses from students that were there. And then
47:54
Speaker 2: there's a strange incident of one of the TPUSA students
47:58
Speaker 2: starts telling somebody the camera what happened, and he's hauled
48:02
Speaker 2: off by the other TPUSA people and not allowed to
48:05
Speaker 2: give a statement, and he isn't happy about it either.
48:08
Speaker 2: And so it's just.
48:13
Speaker 1: I mean, not only that, the surgeon that was trying
48:16
Speaker 1: to save Charlie Kirk's life, after he realized that there
48:18
Speaker 1: was nothing that he can do, he was then blocked
48:22
Speaker 1: by the FBI from returning to the body to make
48:25
Speaker 1: sure that it was presentable for Erica to see him.
48:27
Speaker 1: The FBI was FBI was in the hospital taking down
48:31
Speaker 1: cameras it's very strange. In the hospital, they actually seized
48:36
Speaker 1: all of the cameras in the hospital, all the while
48:40
Speaker 1: trying to block access to the surgeon, to the operative
48:44
Speaker 1: writing room to prepare Charlie for Erica Kirk to come
48:48
Speaker 1: and see him.
48:50
Speaker 2: Very strange, very strange. And then you know, the just
48:56
Speaker 2: the whole weirdness. So now they say that, how do
49:00
Speaker 2: they book that venue? And you know whatever it was
49:03
Speaker 2: eight days or whatever, that big venue, and you know,
49:07
Speaker 2: the White House has said that they pulled strings to
49:10
Speaker 2: do that, which maybe they did, but I don't know.
49:13
Speaker 2: The Other thing that I haven't talked about is that
49:17
Speaker 2: Kennedy's body was transported on Air Force one, and Charlie's
49:21
Speaker 2: body was transported on Air Force too with JD. Vans.
49:26
Speaker 2: What the heck is JD Vans going and getting Charlie's
49:29
Speaker 2: body and moving it on Air Force too. Isn't that
49:33
Speaker 2: really the families supposed to do that? I don't know. Oh,
49:40
Speaker 2: and then there's the you know, and I understand what
49:44
Speaker 2: I'm about to say. I understand why they're doing it,
49:46
Speaker 2: but the strange quietness of Charlie's parents, you know, they're
49:51
Speaker 2: being so quiet about it. You think that they're going
49:53
Speaker 2: to come out and thank everyone for showing, you know,
49:56
Speaker 2: their respect for their son and how much they miss him.
49:59
Speaker 2: And but this has been really, really really quiet.
50:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has been super odd. And there's something else
50:11
Speaker 1: that that I just kind of escaped my mind that oh,
50:15
Speaker 1: that was the same thing that happened to JFK's body.
50:18
Speaker 1: So whenever JFK was taken to the hospital, there was
50:22
Speaker 1: this fight of who the body belongs to. The Dallas
50:27
Speaker 1: Police had jurisdiction over the body, but then then the
50:32
Speaker 1: Secret Service and the FBI came in and with his
50:35
Speaker 1: way his body on Air Force one and took it
50:38
Speaker 1: back to DC. It's almost the singing type of thing
50:43
Speaker 1: that happened with the JFK's body and Charlie.
50:48
Speaker 2: And the FBI, And why do want to hide that
50:51
Speaker 2: body from the surgeon who had never had this ever
50:53
Speaker 2: happen to him ever in his whole life. Is very strange.
50:57
Speaker 2: And by the way, he must be a oh, very
51:03
Speaker 2: well known guy, because he made a phone call to
51:05
Speaker 2: somebody who told the FBI to back off. So he
51:09
Speaker 2: called somebody that he was, somebody who was a big wig,
51:12
Speaker 2: and they told the FBI to back off and let
51:14
Speaker 2: him go back in and he was just trying to
51:16
Speaker 2: clean up Charlie so that Erica wouldn't see the mass,
51:20
Speaker 2: which is you know, pretty pretty the right thing to do.
51:24
Speaker 2: And then yeah, and then they flew him out on
51:27
Speaker 2: air force. I was like, Okay, what do I make
51:33
Speaker 2: of this? And and I have no idea why jd
51:37
Speaker 2: Vance is even involved. I mean, I really don't why
51:40
Speaker 2: is he even getting involved? Just don't know.
51:45
Speaker 1: Well, in another really similar fashion, GfK wanted to defund Israel.
51:55
Speaker 1: When stop that money, right, Charley Kirk just happens to
52:02
Speaker 1: turn down a large lump of sum of money from Israel.
52:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, then net and Ya who comes out like just
52:12
Speaker 2: hours after the assassination claiming that he Israel didn't do it.
52:16
Speaker 2: It's like, oh no, wait a bitte man. Aren't you
52:19
Speaker 2: like protesting too much? There? I think? And I think
52:24
Speaker 2: he's actually made like three or four statements now claiming
52:27
Speaker 2: that they didn't do it. Yet, there's nothing that that
52:31
Speaker 2: country is more proud of than their assassination campaigns. They're
52:36
Speaker 2: every time that you know, Sullivan guy got assassinated in Iran,
52:40
Speaker 2: and they're assassinating people in Iraq and Syria. And then
52:45
Speaker 2: they took kind of for every one of them. They're
52:48
Speaker 2: very proud of their assassination ability, but this one had
52:53
Speaker 2: nothing to do with it. Even though Charlie turned down
52:56
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million dollar offer from them, and
53:01
Speaker 2: then magically after he died, they got almost one hundred
53:05
Speaker 2: They got one hundred and forty million in donations. So
53:09
Speaker 2: that's a that's a pretty weird and neat trick to
53:11
Speaker 2: pull off. But yeah, he was breaking free of Israel,
53:15
Speaker 2: and uh, he even intimated that his life had been threatened.
53:24
Speaker 2: He didn't say my hei, but he he did intimate
53:27
Speaker 2: to several friends that he thought that he would he
53:32
Speaker 2: didn't have long to live.
53:36
Speaker 1: You know what Erica Kirk denied was there until they
53:40
Speaker 1: met with Canvas and Candas was like, open up these
53:43
Speaker 1: other apps and look at his signal and look at
53:46
Speaker 1: his telegram. And then she was like, oh, I didn't
53:48
Speaker 1: know that these other social media platforms you couldn't instament.
53:52
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Yes you do, Yes you do.
53:56
Speaker 2: It's the Truman Shop. That's what what it looks like
54:00
Speaker 2: to me. It looks like to me that Charlie was
54:02
Speaker 2: living in the Truman Show and he was Truman and
54:05
Speaker 2: I'm not alone on that. There's a lot of people
54:07
Speaker 2: making AI videos with Charlie as Jim Carrey and you know,
54:15
Speaker 2: and you know what would happen if you slowly realize
54:18
Speaker 2: that you were surrounded by spies. What happens at that point,
54:23
Speaker 2: you know, Well, you probably get really paranoid, probably think
54:28
Speaker 2: people are trying to kill you.
54:31
Speaker 1: And then we have the podcast of wars going down
54:33
Speaker 1: right now, everyone's I really don't know what to think
54:38
Speaker 1: about it. I think that it's used to not only
54:43
Speaker 1: divide us, but I mean we're starting to see who
54:46
Speaker 1: the real people are and the people that are not
54:52
Speaker 1: paid off by other individuals and not told what to say.
54:57
Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of people are are
55:00
Speaker 1: getting exposed right now.
55:02
Speaker 2: Well yeah, it's almost what I like to say is,
55:07
Speaker 2: you know, because my view, we've we've entered, we've we've
55:11
Speaker 2: we've fought. We're no longer in the Callie Yuga, We've
55:15
Speaker 2: entered into the Para Yuga, and the Doupara Yuga is
55:20
Speaker 2: like a snding time. So some people are up in
55:25
Speaker 2: the Para yuga and some people are still stuck in
55:27
Speaker 2: the Collie Yuga, and the people in the para Yuga,
55:32
Speaker 2: the veils lifting and the cloud's going away, and all
55:35
Speaker 2: of a sudden they can see what's happening. For the
55:37
Speaker 2: people in the Calli Yuga are still stuck in there.
55:39
Speaker 2: They still have the cloud around them. So they're acting
55:45
Speaker 2: like everybody's always acted for thousands of years, right, They're
55:49
Speaker 2: still acting that way. The people in Yuga are looking
55:53
Speaker 2: back at them, going what the hell right? What in
55:58
Speaker 2: the world, And and the people in the college you
56:01
Speaker 2: that can't hide it anymore, and they keep they can't.
56:04
Speaker 2: I mean they can see us now. I mean they
56:07
Speaker 2: couldn't see us before, but they can see us, and
56:10
Speaker 2: so that's what's going on. And now we can see them.
56:13
Speaker 2: And frankly, they look like little children to me. They're
56:16
Speaker 2: acting like twelve year olds, all of them, from Cash
56:19
Speaker 2: Betel to all the people at tp USA, they're all
56:26
Speaker 2: acting like they're twelve years old. And they think that
56:30
Speaker 2: people that we can't see it. And it's just the
56:33
Speaker 2: most curious thing I've ever seen.
56:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, whenever someone's up there straight up lying
56:39
Speaker 1: about something that someone said, like, do they not realize
56:45
Speaker 1: that that person can just go and watch all of
56:50
Speaker 1: their content and see that they never said any of that.
56:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really curious, isn't it. It's like, so, you know, oh,
57:01
Speaker 2: Candas is saying terrible things about Erica, and I'm like, no,
57:04
Speaker 2: she didn't. She didn't one terrible thing about Erica. In fact,
57:08
Speaker 2: she said, if Erica wants me to stop, I'll stop, right.
57:11
Speaker 2: She gave her that. So it's just curious that they're
57:14
Speaker 2: clearly making lies up that don't make any sense. And
57:19
Speaker 2: it's it's funny because the people that are now attacking
57:24
Speaker 2: her that I named previously, I've been so suspicious of
57:31
Speaker 2: those three people from the beginning, right as I'm is
57:37
Speaker 2: that person real or is that fake? And and I
57:40
Speaker 2: now believe that. I now believe that either TPU, either
57:46
Speaker 2: tp USA, or some other entity is buying off influencers
57:52
Speaker 2: so that they go up against Kansas to try to
57:54
Speaker 2: break her down. It's a character assassination. And since she's
58:00
Speaker 2: probably got good security, and they have to do it.
58:03
Speaker 1: This way, I mean, that's the only way. I mean,
58:07
Speaker 1: that's the classic way. That's the classic way is to
58:09
Speaker 1: ruin someone's reputation, get rid of their sponsors, trying to
58:14
Speaker 1: take them down in any possible way, spam their comments
58:17
Speaker 1: section with hate comments, you know, And I mean that's
58:22
Speaker 1: just the way that it's always kind of been done.
58:25
Speaker 1: But I was kind of shocked with with Alex Jones.
58:31
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're listen to it, but I was.
58:33
Speaker 1: I was pretty shocked whenever he was.
58:36
Speaker 2: Someway that he would do it because it was exposed
58:39
Speaker 2: him as being a phony, and so he did it.
58:42
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he did it for money or what,
58:45
Speaker 2: because the things that he was saying were just flat
58:47
Speaker 2: out wrong, just flat out wrong. He was like it
58:50
Speaker 2: was hysterical, screaming and saying stuff that Candice didn't say
58:57
Speaker 2: and I don't know, and then acting like he debunked
59:01
Speaker 2: all this stuff. He didn't debunk anything. So I don't
59:06
Speaker 2: think things are going to be going all that well
59:08
Speaker 2: for Alex Jones from now on. I really don't. And
59:13
Speaker 2: I don't know why he chose to pick a fight
59:15
Speaker 2: with her. Well, what I like about his fight in
59:18
Speaker 2: particular was that the first thing he said was Candace,
59:22
Speaker 2: we're really concerned about you, and I like you as
59:26
Speaker 2: a person and I'm worried about you, and I'm here
59:31
Speaker 2: for you. I'm here for you. Then the next thing
59:33
Speaker 2: is he starts insulting her and saying everything she says
59:37
Speaker 2: is wrong. Then the third time he comes out, he's
59:40
Speaker 2: pretty much just lying about everything. So I don't know
59:43
Speaker 2: what's going on here. It's like the moment of revelation.
59:47
Speaker 2: You know, we see everything is revealed in that moment,
59:50
Speaker 2: and we see it all for what it is. And
59:53
Speaker 2: for people like your listener who don't see it for
59:56
Speaker 2: what it is, that's fine. But we're not gonna stop
1:00:01
Speaker 2: asking questions, So don't don't even ask. Stop asking questions
1:00:05
Speaker 2: not gonna work. We're done with that. So it's gonna
1:00:07
Speaker 2: be questions now forever on everything, and a thousand internet
1:00:12
Speaker 2: sleuths are gonna be going through everything and they're not
1:00:15
Speaker 2: gonna leave anything unturned. So, uh, nobody believes those text messages.
1:00:22
Speaker 2: By the way, nobody believes them. People don't talk like
1:00:26
Speaker 2: that anymore. Younger kids don't use words like vehicle, I'm
1:00:30
Speaker 2: gonna get in my vehicle, come on, called a car.
1:00:37
Speaker 1: So it almost seems like the people that are claiming
1:00:41
Speaker 1: that and this is an attack on anyone, But it
1:00:44
Speaker 1: seems like that the ones that believe that this is
1:00:48
Speaker 1: all Tyler Robinson are the reincarnation of the people that
1:00:53
Speaker 1: thought that it was only Oswald during the GfK sassination.
1:00:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nady that.
1:00:59
Speaker 1: Thinks that it was Oswald. She there's got to be
1:01:05
Speaker 1: there's something going on with him. It's not a commonly
1:01:09
Speaker 1: accepted thing now that this was a single shooter, that
1:01:15
Speaker 1: it was all Oswald.
1:01:18
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:01:18
Speaker 1: Well, it's not going to be any different with this.
1:01:20
Speaker 1: This is going to be the exact same thing, and
1:01:22
Speaker 1: it already is.
1:01:25
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. If I was Tyler Robinson's attorney,
1:01:28
Speaker 2: I'd get him off for sure, because I mean, did
1:01:31
Speaker 2: they take Okay, so thirty three hours went by, you
1:01:36
Speaker 2: still can't take the test for gunpowder, It still be okay.
1:01:39
Speaker 2: You'll say he took a shower or change his clothes
1:01:42
Speaker 2: or something, so that won't work. But fingerprints on the
1:01:46
Speaker 2: gun aren't going to work. And the fact that the
1:01:48
Speaker 2: bomb dogs didn't find the gun. Boy, I could call
1:01:53
Speaker 2: up ten witnesses that would call that bunk. So I
1:01:56
Speaker 2: don't know. So I hope that Tyler Robinson has a
1:02:00
Speaker 2: really good attorney, I really do. I hope they are thorough.
1:02:03
Speaker 2: I hope his parents are spending the right amount of
1:02:05
Speaker 2: money for that, and if not borrow it because I
1:02:11
Speaker 2: think he's got a really good defense. I really do.
1:02:16
Speaker 1: Well, there's no way that he's that they're not going
1:02:17
Speaker 1: to convict him. I mean that's just par for the course.
1:02:20
Speaker 1: I mean this entire thing has gone on for far
1:02:23
Speaker 1: too long, Like what are they going to do? Now?
1:02:26
Speaker 1: What are they going to do? If they don't convict him,
1:02:28
Speaker 1: what's going to happen? Then They're definitely going to convict him.
1:02:32
Speaker 1: There's no other way around it. They got nothing else.
1:02:35
Speaker 1: This is their guy. They're hinging at all that it's
1:02:38
Speaker 1: this guy. It's the only way that it's going to
1:02:40
Speaker 1: go down. But it's not going to put any more
1:02:42
Speaker 1: faith in these institutions by the public.
1:02:48
Speaker 2: I would be easier to just Epstein and be honest
1:02:50
Speaker 2: with you frankly. You know then you don't have a trial,
1:02:57
Speaker 2: you don't have witnesses, you don't have anything. So I
1:03:01
Speaker 2: would look for something like that. They don't like trials.
1:03:04
Speaker 2: They're messy, things can go wrong.
1:03:07
Speaker 1: So well, before I let you go, Jay, I want
1:03:10
Speaker 1: to play my Alex Jones Bill Hicks video. Listen to
1:03:19
Speaker 1: Alex Jones himself tell everybody that he's really a comedian
1:03:23
Speaker 1: Bill Hicks. I go to the media, and I tell
1:03:27
Speaker 1: them you're Bill Hicks.
1:03:30
Speaker 2: You fake your death and you're a liar. Is that
1:03:34
Speaker 2: my opinion or have I defamed you? That's your opinion?
1:03:38
Speaker 2: So people are allowed to do that in your mind,
1:03:41
Speaker 2: MTU to clear something up right now, look at that
1:03:43
Speaker 2: camera and tell everybody you're not Bill Hicks. So I
1:03:47
Speaker 2: want to just get this out of the way. I
1:03:48
Speaker 2: am Bill Hicks. Actually he's not Bill Hicks. Brian, we
1:03:52
Speaker 2: already went over this. Guys.
1:03:54
Speaker 1: Talk about that.
1:03:57
Speaker 2: Is you can put together a case where you you
1:04:00
Speaker 2: fucking you know, you can't brilliant. So when I was
1:04:19
Speaker 2: a guya, I was the producer of Beyond Belief of
1:04:23
Speaker 2: George Nori for five years from twenty thirteen to twenty eighteen,
1:04:28
Speaker 2: and one time he was around twenty sixteen, we were
1:04:32
Speaker 2: having a discussion about who to invite his guests for
1:04:35
Speaker 2: the show, and I said, well, I'd like to really
1:04:39
Speaker 2: meet Alex Johns, and George says, oh, yeah, he's a
1:04:43
Speaker 2: good friend of mine, let's invite him. So I said, yeah,
1:04:47
Speaker 2: you know what, when he comes through that door there
1:04:50
Speaker 2: first time, I'm going to run over and shake his
1:04:52
Speaker 2: hand and say hello, Bill Hicks. I was just joking, right, hello,
1:04:56
Speaker 2: Bill Hicks, and George looked at me with a very
1:05:00
Speaker 2: his face. He goes, Jay, everybody in the radio business
1:05:04
Speaker 2: knows that Alex Jones is Bill Hicks. And I was
1:05:07
Speaker 2: like bomb, I was like floored, and he was serious.
1:05:11
Speaker 2: He was deadly serious. And that's when I got onto
1:05:15
Speaker 2: the whole Bill Hicks Alex Jones like bandwagon. And you know,
1:05:20
Speaker 2: I don't want to say much more because Alex Jones
1:05:23
Speaker 2: will start getting pissed off and start calling me names,
1:05:26
Speaker 2: as he has done before.
1:05:29
Speaker 1: Well, it took me a long time to find that
1:05:33
Speaker 1: clip of Jordan.
1:05:34
Speaker 2: I went looking for the Joe Rogan clips six months ago.
1:05:39
Speaker 2: I spent like a three weeks trying to find I
1:05:40
Speaker 2: couldn't find it. And the other clip. I don't know
1:05:42
Speaker 2: how you found that one. But you know, Alex Jones
1:05:45
Speaker 2: did say in court that he's a performance artist, and
1:05:49
Speaker 2: in that trial that he was at Sandy Hook trial,
1:05:52
Speaker 2: he said, I'm a performance artist. I'm not a This
1:05:55
Speaker 2: is not me, just that thing that's on TV and
1:05:58
Speaker 2: on the radio. It's not me. It's a performance sortists.
1:06:01
Speaker 2: And you know, and one last day before you, Bill
1:06:04
Speaker 2: Hicks said before he died that he wanted to quit
1:06:07
Speaker 2: doing comedy and wanted to become the Rush Loombaugh from Hell.
1:06:12
Speaker 2: I had heard it quote that where he said that
1:06:15
Speaker 2: and you got Alex Jones is rifling bo from now.
1:06:21
Speaker 1: Well, Jay, thanks so much for coming on. Really appreciate it.
1:06:24
Speaker 1: Can you let everyone know where to find you, where
1:06:25
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1:06:27
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1:06:28
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1:06:33
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1:06:39
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1:06:43
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1:06:48
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1:06:50
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