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Let’s Divorce Harry: Behind-The-Scenes Tea with Maya Avery · The Drama Drop

• The Drama Drop: Hey guys, welcome back to the drama drop. Today I'm joined by Maya from Let's Marry Harry. And now that the reunion has officially dropped, we have a lot to unpack. We're talking about her experience getting eliminated first, what really went down behind the scenes, her thoughts on Harry, Amber, and Danelle, and all the reunion chaos that came with it. So get ready because the drama drops now. Hi, Maya. Welcome to the drama drop. Maya: Hi. The Drama Drop: I'm so excited to have you on. I know we've been going back and forth. it's been a long time coming and I'm super excited to talk about everything. For anybody who doesn't know, they've been living under a rock. Let's Marry Harry. That is the show that is on Netflix that everyone is talking about. You're one of the women who was set to tame the wild beast that is Harry Jowsey sadly, you Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: were the like one of the first to leave, which I was super sad about because immediately I was drawn to you once I saw you on my screen. So I was super excited to see you on the show. But then that got ended quickly, which made me really sad. But obviously, despite leaving early, you've had quite the experience. Shows out, reunions done, everything is all out there. So I just needed to get a pulse check. How do you feel now that everything's out? You can talk about it. Maya: Yeah, the the pulse is pulsing. But we're here, The Drama Drop: Ha ha ha. Maya: we're alive and well. it's been crazy. I think that my small journey on the show was a bit more, I guess the right word would be impactful on his The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: for him and his journey, more impactful than I had thought. I it's been crazy. I think it's after the reunion, there's just so much that has happened that I didn't know, that all of us didn't know, that maybe there were some speculations they've been proven or hidden or just there's just so much that's happened. So it was a crazy reunion and I had a front row seat. It was crazy. The Drama Drop: Yeah, I that reunion was definitely something wild and I'm definitely gonna we're gonna get into that for sure. But I before we get into the reunion, I do wanna back up a little bit because I just need to know how in the world did you end up on this show? How did this end up on your lap? Maya: Yeah, I mean I have been approached by like for some shows through the throughout the last couple of years. I've entertained them all. I I it's no secret. I wanted I wanted to be in front of the camera and I freaking did it. But no. The Drama Drop: Yeah, as you should. Maya: I I've been approached a couple of times and I've always, like I just said, like entertained it and I was always very into the idea. I have my own business. I have a lot, you know, that I feel like that I would love to be able to get my name out there and you know, take that opportunity if it ever came and This came through my direct messages and also I mean Harry is hot. He's cool. I mean, like I was not opposed. They approached me for this and all of the casting people are so, so amazing. And I think they really carry the process on their back and keeps you it just they keep you very locked in and interested. And they're just amazing. They're so sweet. They're so supportive. And you just feel naturally so Comfortable right off the bat. So I'm having these conversations. We're getting into the interview process. I'm like, this is this is pretty awesome. And The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: It ended up hitting. This one was they were like they called me a week before and they're like, hey, like, can you get out to LA next week? We you're casted. Give me a whole list of wardrobe. I'm running around shopping like a crazy person. I was actually in LA already visiting friends, just having a fun weekend. And they called me like twenty minutes before I was leaving to go pregame and go out and do the whole thing. So yeah, I yeah. The Drama Drop: my gosh. That's crazy. That's a quick turnaround time. I mean, obviously, like, Maya: Super quick. The Drama Drop: well, how long was the process from start to finish? Maya: Wow, I think it was over the course of two and a half months, I would say. The Drama Drop: Okay. Maya: Or yeah, like two months. Yeah. The Drama Drop: That's crazy. Like so quickly to be like, Hey, actually, like we're ready for you. Maya: It's it's something that I've learned in reality TV. It's like hurry up and wait. It's we're getting this stuff done, you have to be The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: ready for this and then you know, you're just waiting. Yeah, yeah, for sure. The Drama Drop: You just gotta take it when you can. Yeah. Okay. So I have seen some women have said they didn't know it was gonna be Harry. You knew Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: it was gonna be Harry, right? Like how did they present like this show? How did they pitch it to you? Maya: They said, Do you know who Harry Jowsey is? I said, Yes, I know who Harry Jowsey is. Why The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: do you ask? And they're like, We're doing a show called Let's Marry Harry where you could potentially be his wife and you're gonna be competing with The Drama Drop: Gosh. Maya: other girls to become his wife, get his attention, yada yada. They gave me the premise of the show, like pretty ASAP. So, I'm not Listen, I'm not here to say that that's not true. Maybe that was the narrative for some of the girls, but The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: they definitely knew at some point. I mean, my questions and interviewing in my interviews and everything that I was being asked was personal to him. It wasn't just, you know, hypothetically a gu so you know, some random dude. So sure, yeah. The Drama Drop: Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. And I feel like, I mean, like you said, it's like you don't know necessarily, I guess, what their process was, but you would Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: think at some point, it's like if you're gonna go into the mindset of like, okay, you're marrying this person, you would Maya: Ha ha ha The Drama Drop: think that they would need to kind of give you an idea of who it is to even see to if you're gonna waste your time. Maya: Right. Totally. The Drama Drop: Yeah, like I yeah, so I wasn't sure Maya: I The Drama Drop: on that. And then also too, because I was thinking, cause some of them have said that when they did learn it was Harry, that they had no idea who he was. And I just listen, I just don't buy that. Do you buy that? Maya: I mean, I don't I don't think they're like flat out lying. I've only seen like one video about it, but I do know that multiple girls did say that. And that was told to me when we were there, like, I didn't even know it was him. Do I no, I I d I don't I no, I think that they I don't know. I think I think that that's like a little bit of a cop-out. It seems like a little The Drama Drop: For sure. Maya: salty behavior. And you know what? There's been a lot of Harry misbehaving, and of course, The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: and you know, just being having a natural reaction from watching the show or just from what the girls are saying. You know, some things have been been so tasteful, but I will say his reaction to that was completely valid. He was, that's really what ticked him off. And I do understand that because It's just like what do you now are we, you know, are we fabricating the truth to fit your narrative or to make you look better? The Drama Drop: Mm-hmm. Maya: And it's like the signs were plastered everywhere. I live in New York City. There was not one like what are they? Tell there's not there wasn't like one street lamp or post stop The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: crosswalk stop that did not have like, do you wanna marry Harry? Like it I think you could yeah, so and it was like the newest Netflix show that they were casting The Drama Drop: my gosh. Wow. Yeah. Maya: for. I just feel like it was so out. There, so then for them to like go back and say that after the fact, I think I I just don't even think it's like a good look. Like I would have kept that to myself. I would have like kind of had the awareness to know that maybe that's just like it's irrelevant anyway. Because guess what? You fought for him on the show. Yeah, exactly. You could have been like me, like I'm not I'm not that interested, but you weren't. You were so interested. You were the next girl in his room waiting for him. So The Drama Drop: Right, right, yeah. It's like, what does that really prove? Yeah, exactly. Cause I was thinking, I was like n a hundred percent. No. Okay, thank you for saying that. Yes, because I'm sitting here and I'm thinking, well, this is just really weird because I'm like, Okay, you're saying you didn't know anything about him, but you were but once you heard the name, you're like, Okay, you didn't do any research. to decide, okay, do I even want to do this? Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: but then all of a sudden you get there, like you said, and then you just you're so interested and you're really deep into it. And yeah, I I just I didn't really buy at least, you know, you were very upfront and on because let's be honest, if you if you also too, okay, even if you didn't watch every single show that Harry was on, I feel like you still know who he is. Like you there Maya: For sure. The Drama Drop: is something like you just know of him. Maya: You've seen his face. You've seen it. You would know right away, like, that you The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: associate him with whatever it is that you've seen, like a million percent. Yeah. The Drama Drop: Absolutely. A hundred percent. And so on top of that, I'm like, okay, if you don't know him because you're not really into reality TV, then that is wild to then just want to jump into a reality show. Maya: Correct. And for me, someone that did know who he was still was not going to love somebody or even have feelings for somebody that I had not yet met. Not yet The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: have met. So it's like when I was speaking to him in that, you know, my first conversation that they show the infamous fur worst first impression of all time. I was just going into it like how I do in the real world. In fact, it's just funny how, you know, It wasn't even like an edit, like it was true. Like I was there for the cameras and I made a video like two things could be true, which it absolutely was. If I could fall in love while soaking up this opportunity, hell yeah, who wouldn't want to do that? The Drama Drop: Absolutely. Maya: But I went into this, like how I treat the real world. So if I'm going on a first date, I'm gonna talk to you and especially cause he is, you know, he's a public figure. So I knew stuff about him. Enough, you know, enough of The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: the things that you would maybe ask on the first date. So for The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: me, I was taking the opportunity to talk about myself, my career, and all the things. You didn't you guys didn't get to see all of it, but like Like that was what we were doing. And I think I was actually moving, you know, this might be a broad statement, but you know, the most real just because it's like, I don't even know you. And I'm not gonna like you because you're a public figure, and I even know The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: who you are. So if you didn't know who we I don't know, it just doesn't add up to me. The whole thing is just word salad. The Drama Drop: Yeah. Yeah. No, I completely agree with you on that because you're like you said, two things can be true. It's like, I'm gonna be up front. It's like, okay, cool. Like that would be like if he happens to be my person, that's amazing. And Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: then if it doesn't, you know, this is an awesome experience because for me, it's like hard to process with these women and all their emotions and feelings, which definitely can be true, but You can't say that you didn't think that there's some, you know, other benefit that is gonna come from being on this show. Like there's just Maya: W it's like it's not your prefer like what do you mean? Like it you would going on TV to find love be like your preferred authentic way to find it? No. The Drama Drop: Right. Exactly. Maya: So I mean the girl it's not like any of the girls had like thrown any shade towards me. They kind of like respect it and they thought it was funny. So like I appreciate, you know, the like support in that way. I'm glad that the girls The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: could understand, but for him to like instantly write me off for that The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: You know, you c you can't help but feel like that's very, you know, hypocritical. But at the same time, you know, I can understand him wanting to maybe stay clear of me. He's like probably used to people wanting to entertain him for the wrong reasons, and I freaking get it. So that's the vibe he got for me, and I mean totally like totally understandable, but the worst first impression. I've never been told that in my life. The Drama Drop: When you when you were having the interaction with him, like did you Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: cause obviously, you know, they edited it and you know, chopped it all up or whatever. So it's like as a viewer, you it felt like, gosh, like he Maya: Sorry, I got a call. The Drama Drop: it's making it uncomfortable. Or like he's like, did you get that vibe at all? Like, did it seem like, maybe he is interested? Like, did you get any sort of inkling that this may not be going? Well Maya: Well, I mean it and this is I'm not trying to sound overly confident here. Believe me, I'm not everybody's cup of tea. Nobody is everybody's cup of tea. The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: However, I mean, every first date that I've gone on, or and any first impression situation has actually really worked in my favor. Maybe once you get to know me more, you're like, okay, get this bitch away from me. However, my first impression The Drama Drop: Ha ha ha. Maya: is usually kind of what gets me gets me right. I mean, it's how The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: I it's it's created th it's my career, it's everything. I'm a very persa people person. So, you know, when that was when I had left the conversation, I just kind of knew like It's it's all good because that's just how I am. But The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: I mean after w watching the show, I could totally understand why he felt that way. I looked crazy. I don't even know how that even happened. Like, I don't even I'm not even gonna blame the edit because I have no idea what they were working with. But yeah, when I left the conversation, I was like, okay, that was pretty good. I think like I remember the next day I was like super like anxious and just and which is so unlike me. I'm like not an anxious-driven person at all. The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: I was in my confessional and I was just like feeling something in my gut, like it just wasn't feeling right. And I also just like I felt myself whenever like I'm not a group mentality person. And for this process, I actually think that there is a fine balance of being that and also being, you know, your own individual throughout this experience. And in the beginning though, it kind of does work in your favor to be more in the mix a little bit more and The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: He is an ego-driven man. I mean, most men are. This isn't even, you know, directed towards him. But like I think it literally did look like I was just there for the cameras. I think that there was a scene where I literally went in front of the camera and like to like a little they and they literally aired it. It went perfectly with the narrative. But and that's like what I was doing. I I there was multiple parts. Like if you really hyper-analyze, which I am, because I'm watching myself, maybe not a viewer The Drama Drop: Right, of course. Maya: would, they're like all following him into his room, like cheersing him in the shower. And it's just like me like walking away from them because I'm just like this is weird. Like this is weird, like to me. The Drama Drop: Right Yeah. Maya: I have brothers, so like and I'm just surrounded by like dudes all like The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: all the time and like it just gave me the ick. I just I I just like could understand from like a a guy's perspective that that's kind of weird, but not maybe for a man that you know is so ego-driven. The Drama Drop: Yeah, because I think too 'cause like obviously, you know, yeah, it's like you're going on there to find your person or I guess your husband in this instance. and but then at the same time it is a competition, which I feel like is weird. Maya: Correct. The Drama Drop: So I feel like I would be the same as you. It's kind of just like, like I feel it's like almost try hardy in a sense to like just go with everybody and Maya: Yes, yes. The Drama Drop: just feed the ego and like Gosh. Yeah, I because too at the same time, it's Maya: That's just The Drama Drop: like, like you said, you don't know him yet. It's like Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: you know what you know is from a show or online or whatever. Like you don't know the true core of him. So Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: to act so like, my gosh, my gosh. But you know, I guess that's what helps, you know, yeah, helps keep the keep the storyline going. okay, so you said you had Maya: That's what we're there for. And that's what helps. Yeah. It's correct. But yeah, I was The Drama Drop: a gut feeling. So then d were you shocked at all whenever you unfortunately were eliminated? Like was it the first round? Yeah, first round. Yeah. Yeah. Maya: W Yeah, it was the fur it was the first round. I think that well, so it was funny because like when We had first literally the first scene, like actually the first scene filming. We're at the gar garden party and I, yes, I was there I went in front of that camera on purpose. I was like r directed right in front of it. I think I turned to Kiki and I was like, We're going right there and like it we're gonna be like right in the first shot. So I'm standing there with like my champagne in my hands and it's like a joke. I I mean this was a complete joke, but he was like taking forever. I there was like a scene of him having to drive up in the car like you see it in the beginning and it was taking forever. It was like literally taking forever. So I'm just like looking at Kiki, I'm like, what is it? A stick shift and he can't drive it? Like what a loser. I called him a loser, like as a joke, like obviously. But because the confidants were like listening to us the whole time, which is like an The Drama Drop: no. Maya: another thing, they apparently and like also he definitely didn't like me so I'm not saying that's the reason why I was gone. Like I'm not gonna blame it on The Drama Drop: Right. Okay, yeah. Maya: that. But he apparently when he did eliminate me he was like yeah I heard she called me a loser. I was like all right he can't ha he wouldn't be able to handle me if he if I was this person. I mean are The Drama Drop: No, it's like that's so taken out of context, like. Maya: you kidding? And that's why I had an issue I had an issue with the confidants like right away. Like I think they're awesome people. I like them all individually but like I was like this is this I feel like I'm in like a science experiment. This is weird. The Drama Drop: Okay, I'm glad you brought them up because I was gonna ask Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: you about that. Like, how did you feel? Cause it is weird that it's like they're watching, they're just like watching you guys. It's like Big Brother almost, you know, they're being able to see everything that Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: you guys are talking about, how you're maneuver, which it's like, okay, I get in a sense, but Maya: It's too gimmicky for me. Yeah. The Drama Drop: it's just it's weird. It is weird. Maya: Ma my man is not gonna need his friends to make the decision for him. I mean, like, doesn't that doesn't feel natural The Drama Drop: Love that. No. Maya: at all? It's an icky feeling too. And also, too, there was like multiple I mean, he could s he could save someone and disagree with them, and then they're like in front of your face, like, that's a bad decision. It's like The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: We have his ex there and it's gonna intimidating situation, which I love Georgia. So like and she w she is so well spoken and she has very good perspectives on things and she is she just handles thing with things with like comedic relief. So like I can respect that. But The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: crazy concept. I mean, I was uncomfortable off the The Drama Drop: Yeah, it is a very crazy concept. Maya: bat. The Drama Drop: Yeah, because it's like at the end of the day, you know, they're not involved in the conversations. Like they're just seeing, they're just like pinpointing what they think is negative. And then it's like, okay, let's just use that to get rid of whoever. okay, so when Maya: Like fine. Get me out of there. The Drama Drop: you got eliminated, what did you like? How did you feel? Maya: I was like so d I literally said it my last scene. I was like, g I was like, get me the fuck out of here or something. And that's literally how I felt. I was just like, as soon as the night before that I learned that they were watching our every move, I knew they were gonna be involved. That was the premise, but not that. I was like more than fine to go. I was surprised just because From a production standpoint, I feel like I was getting like a certain treatment that made me feel like I was I at least had another week left in me. The Drama Drop: Mm. Maya: they like had told me that my conversations went well and whatever, but like that, like that's just like how it is. I was surprised, but I wasn't upset. I was surprised though. I missed my mom. The Drama Drop: Yeah. Yeah. from the time that you were there, was there a lot of downtime that Harry was around the girls without the cameras? Like, did no, no. So it's like once cameras are up, then he's there. Maya: Like well, I mean, I was I was there in the beginning stages, so I think they needed like cameras around like Just 'cause we were going in guns blazing and as connections actually formed, I'm sure like they wanted like real alone time or he needed time to reflect and process the whole thing. But he would come downstairs and into the kitchen and stuff and kind of like talk to us. And again, I I'm just not a group girl like that. I can't sit there and like giggle at his jokes that I don't find funny and like I The Drama Drop: Right. It's like competing for his attention. It's like, ugh. Maya: I I it's just I and I know I signed up for this. However, The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: you don't know how you're going to be until you are thrown into that situation. And I actually, despite what you guys saw, felt like the quietest like one in the room. I felt I just felt like a little bit like outside of myself. But The Drama Drop: Mm-hmm. Maya: and I'm sure like I mean I know he's comfortable in these environments, but like it got it had to have been weird for him too. I mean, yeah. The Drama Drop: Yeah, it's like everybody, it's like little chihuahuas, you know, it's like, you didn't spend time with me, you spend time with me. And that just does seem very overwhelming. So Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: which I might be like jumping around a little bit, but that's where I because of that environment, it's my mind, and again, I've never been in that situation, never will be. So my mind Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: can't process the whole concept of okay, you're developing these strong feelings that you That you like obviously not you, but these women are thinking like, my gosh, like I like feel like I could marry him. Like I'm feeling because he's has such shared Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: attention with everybody. And it's already, it's already such a fast timeline. On top Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: of that, then it's shared, you know, the time is shared. So Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: I just like have such a hard time like thinking that it's actual genuine connections that are like maybe, like maybe truly. But enough confidence Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: to be like, Yeah, like I could see spending my life with him. Maya: Yeah, I mean, especially too 'cause we're like literally on a time crunch. Like we liter we are filming a show, so it's it just nothing about it felt authentic for me. I mean, listen, like I'm not gonna lie, like there is there was girls like actually convinced that this is their person, like after the first night. I I won't The Drama Drop: That's crazy. Maya: ever forget it. But I was like, Okay, me and then I was like, Is there something I actually wish that I could be more like that? I'm like, is there something wrong with me? Like I was having like a lot of self reflection during The Drama Drop: Mm-hmm. Maya: my short time there because it was so unbelievably uncomfortable for me. And it almost felt like there's us, like these girls that nobody knows. We're just random, you know we we're just normal girls. And then we have like a movie star, like living in our house and we're The Drama Drop: Right. Right. Maya: supposed to like stroke his ego even more and all that. I I I don't know. I d I just The Drama Drop: Well, and too, this is something that I brought up to my husband. I was like, what's crazy about this too, it's like, okay, maybe because you're just in a confined environment. But I'm like, there's no freaking way all these girls all are having these feelings for like you can be like, yeah, that person's attractive. yeah, that person's Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: attractive, or yeah, like they're fun. But you're telling me like all these women just are like, Yes, Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: like I have feelings. I have feelings because There's plenty of nice people out in the world or enjoyable Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: people or fun and cute, whatever, but that doesn't mean that they're for you. So I was like, it's just so I mean, obviously it's like similar to like the bachelor, bachelorette, but I'm like, I Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: think Rakaya, like she was the only one that confronted Harry and was like, Hey, like, you're not feeling this. I feel it's more of a friendship vibe. Kind of probably Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: should leave. So I'm just it's hard for me. I'm just like, okay, like how many of these women and then two, when Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: you know that the confidants are listening, I wonder how much more, you know, people are paying attention to what they're saying Maya: yeah. It's The Drama Drop: behind closed doors, like not around him. Maya: Yeah, I mean like it's funny because like I I I was like his worst first impression and all that stuff to say. because I wasn't I also like wasn't telling him that I had feelings for him within that first second. So like I but I feel like someone with emotional intelligence, and I'm not making accusations that he doesn't, but I will say someone with emotional intelligence would be like, wait a second, like it is a little bit of a red flag if someone's like acting like they have these feelings for me already. Like that's not humane, The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: that's not normal. And I I I I don't know. I I yeah. I The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: don't I'm not saying that they didn't have feelings for him. I'm not gonna like speak for them, but I mean I don't understand how that's possible. And yeah, Rakaya just knew her worth in that moment and was like, I'm gonna save us both. I'm gonna save me the embarrassment, save you your fakeness. Let's just The Drama Drop: Right. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Maya: let's just call it quits or you know, whatever. So yeah. The Drama Drop: Yeah, for sure. so once everything okay, so wait, once you got home from being eliminated, were you able to communicate with the girls that were still there? Like, did you know what was going on at all? Maya: no, we our phones were taken away the second we got to the hotel, like before we even started filming. So no one had access to their phones. But there was eliminations happening like every couple days. So the first of us got eliminated, group chat was made, which has become a source of it's become a funny subject now, which it wasn't brought up at the reunion, which which I wish it was, because it's actually really funny. But yeah, the group chat was made and then it was just kind of Someone would get their phone back. It was kind of like I think Instagram DMs started like, okay, what's your number? We'll add you to the group chat. The Drama Drop: Mm-hmm. Maya: Cause like they don't have we don't have each other's numbers. We just look each other up on Instagram. And The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: every time someone would be like, welcome this person next to the let's divorce Harry group chat. And eventually, obviously, we then The Drama Drop: I love that. Maya: all figured out, okay, Amber's the last person that has not been added. And yeah. The Drama Drop: Yeah, that would make sense. Maya: Yeah, unless she hates us all and doesn't want anything to do with us. So funny. The Drama Drop: okay, so when you were watching the show, like after it was aired or sorry, yeah, like it dropped, Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: what was your reactions to things like what shocked you the most that you were like that I had did not expect, or maybe if even as girls were getting eliminated, you know, like things that you're learning, like, that's weird. I didn't know that that was happening. That's not how I was told. Maya: Well, for me, like I think that Am like Amber and Harry definitely like or Amber definitely developed like feelings for him because the Amber that I knew when I was there was like so just like I I wasn't surprised that she made it to the end because she's an amazing, freaking gorgeous, amazing woman. Like nothing to do with her. But The Drama Drop: Mm-hmm. Maya: she was so funny. Like she was like, I don't I she wasn't giving, she wasn't doing the stuff that was making me uncomfortable. Like we were kind of like vibing together because she was just real. The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: And she was just kind of laying back, letting, you know, when their time comes, it'll come. That's definitely the energy that he picked up on and That's definitely why she made it, you know, that far because she was being real. Yeah. The Drama Drop: Husband picked up on that this too. He was like, notice how she's kind of like falls back a little bit. Like she kind Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: of doesn't just fall all over him Maya: She was chillin'. The Drama Drop: and that's kind of piquing his interest. He's like, wait a second. It's like she gives just enough to like get him all interested, but she wasn't, you know, just like on her Maya: Yeah. No, for real. So like Correct. Yeah. The Drama Drop: hands and knees, like, love me, pick me, choose me. Maya: No, she was and she was so great to have there. She almost like felt like like an older sister and like rock for me in there. However, it was just interesting to watch and see her feelings develop and her actually, you know, start stealing him for chats and doing all of that. Cause it was like the amber that I saw. I I she I didn't even think she wanted to be there for The Drama Drop: We Maya: two seconds. So it was just that was funny to see. I think like I don't know, like the Booger Abbey situation kind of got me wrong, to be honest. I it's The Drama Drop: wait, you just like sparked my memory on that. Wait, hold on. Hold on. Yeah, can we wait, hold I like am processing that again. That was Maya: Sorry, I just unlocked it back. Yeah. Wait, yeah, that was insane. Wait, what? Yeah. The Drama Drop: real. Like, did did you confirm with were you why? I cannot believe. Maya: Real. It was real. It was it was said in like a group the one of the group chats or something, and I I didn't under s I I'm like, what do you mean? Like I I don't even know what you mean by that. Like, The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: but then it aired, and it was just like, this is no shade, but like what what are we doing here? Like acting just The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: like a bunch of like gestures for him. If he ever, if a man ever recommended doing that, I would The Drama Drop: Absolutely not. Maya: I you know what? I don't take myself too seriously, I really don't, but I also really do. And like that, I I mean, whatever, you know what? She's a free spirit. The Drama Drop: No, if that was presented to me, if that came across my desk, that would be the sign for me to be like, okay, no, like you're not my there's no way. That Maya: He's twenty he's twenty nine years old, or twenty eight. Yeah. The Drama Drop: yeah, I cannot, I totally forgot that that happened. I think we Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: rewound it and I was like, that's not real. There's no way. Maya: I wish I forgot that happened. Yeah. The Drama Drop: And I almost wonder too, I was like thinking, I wonder if Harry just like did something so outrageous just to see. It's like, let's just see if this girl just does it because I'm the one that's saying to do it. Maya: that and I feel like that was just like a little game that was being The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: played the entire time. And Listen, I think that these girls are they're beautiful and confident. I think the confidence really like shined through, especially since like doing all those things, it's just a form of confidence and being able to not, you know, be insecure about some of the things that you're doing. You're just being undeniably you. And if like that's who you are, then like so be it. Like that's amazing. But like there were it it it just felt I'm from New York City and It's something that if you're not like if you don't live here, you're not from here, I don't know if you could like understand what I'm about to say. But there's like a certain level of sophistication that naturally is And I am not saying these girls are not sophisticated. It's just how I move and how like I I I'm judgmental. Like I'm definitely judgmental. And like, The Drama Drop: Right. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Maya: and I think being and I said this in one of my videos, I was like, I think that being judgmental is only human and it's natural. And like for The Drama Drop: Absolutely. Maya: me, I felt like, and maybe I need to work on it and I'm happy to self-reflect, but I feel like I was finding myself being very judgmental throughout my process, which probably was written all over my face and maybe gave me a bad first impression, a bad vibe, and all the things. But like I judge those actions and I I just do and like there's a lot of weird things happening in the short time that I was there where I was like I don't feel like I belong here, you know? And The Drama Drop: Yeah. Yeah. Maya: like just my I'm too real to my own fault. Sometimes you literally The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: saw it on camera, me literally like saying, like that's just how I am and it's just kind of like the New York girl in me, where it's like I'm a straight shooter, I'll tell you how it is. Not confrontational, but like I will accidentally spill my truth and I The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: will and if I am uncomfortable by something, it's gonna be written all over my face. So yeah. Yeah. The Drama Drop: I co-signed that completely. Like that a hundred percent. Like for people to say that they don't judge or whatever. I mean, yeah, I think that that's just human nature. and Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: you know, like you said, it's like if that's what you wanna do, like okay, but I'm gonna think you're weird for it and I'm gonna be like, why are you doing that? And Maya: Yeah. Period. The Drama Drop: like you said, it'll show all over my face and I'm like and I hate when people Maya: I probably was a bad vibe. I probably was. People probably like honestly, maybe they did want me out of there. I don't know. The Drama Drop: Well, it was probably just because you weren't following suit to what everybody else was doing. Like you were like, Okay, if I am gonna get connect with him, it's gonna be because I'm acting how I would normally act. I'm not gonna just change and, you know, just because it is a show or a competition, like at the end of the day, Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: you know, a marriage is huge. Like that's supposed to be forever. This Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: show is supposed is like five weeks or whatever it was. So it's like I need to be how I'm going to be for forever. Maya: For sure. I'd not I don't wanna meet my husband on like false pretenses of me like The Drama Drop: Exactly. Maya: a being fake. I feel like that's awful. I that's just never how I would do it. So yeah. The Drama Drop: No, no. so I think you handled yourself beautifully. Like unfortunately, we only got to Maya: Thank you. The Drama Drop: see you for like a short amount of the time in the show. Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: But like I said, you stood out to me immediately. And I honestly think like Maya: Thank you. The Drama Drop: blessing in disguise, which I mean I feel like you Maya: For sure. The Drama Drop: would agree. Maya: Definitely. The Drama Drop: so let's talk about the reunion. Maya: Alright, let's let's get into it. Let's get into that. That was insane. The Drama Drop: I don't even know where to start, to be completely honest. how did Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: you feel walking into the reunion? Maya: I felt like I looked really good. Like I was just like, I'm just gonna and as as did all The Drama Drop: You dead. You dead. Maya: the other girls. Everyone looked amazing. But like I just felt like this is an opportunity for me to play dress up and watch this all unfold. I was excited. I was like I was like a viewer, you know? So, The Drama Drop: Yeah. Absolutely. Maya: I mean, it was great to see everybody and I mean it was fun to just get out of the city for a little go to LA and like have our moment and it was it felt like closure to the chapter that we just I mean, it was it's been crazy. So it felt like, you know, it was closer and it was c and it was a reunion. We were all getting back together. Production, people, you know, The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: the amazing team that we were working with the entire time. We got to be reunited with all of them. So that was great. Then we all, you know, we sit on the couches and we get right to business. There was no there was nothing produced about that reunion, I swear. Like literally we didn't The Drama Drop: my gosh. That was Maya: have to stop or cut like we didn't have to cut filming once. Like, not one time The Drama Drop: That's so insane. Maya: was someone even like, Can you say that again? It literally was the most It was so natural flowing. Like Hayley was amazing, amazing host. She killed it. I think it was she did amazing and she made us The Drama Drop: Yeah, she did really well. I thought she did Yeah. Maya: all feel so comfortable, so sweet. I think having a female host was a hundred percent necessary. and yeah, I mean I they didn't show me like talking at all, but I did, you know, say a few things. and this was just again me just being super real. It's like there was this feud between or Abby was mad at Juliana for airing out her dirty laundry about she Juliana like vaguely answered a question or something. She was doing like an ask me something on her Instagram stories. And someone was like asked her a question, and she just said, Yeah, Harry had been intimate with two other girls, I guess, when I left. That's all she said. Then Abby gets online and says some she was salty about it, and clapped back at her like pretty hard and like it kind of like caused this thing and her whole thing was that Juliana exposed her and Harry's intimate details and and I was like I am practically a viewer at this point. I had no The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: idea she was talking about you until you just said it. And like it almost felt like it was just so it was and believe me like get get that like camera time funny coming from The Drama Drop: Right. Mm-hmm. Maya: me. But like get get that camera time like get your story out. Like it's fun. Tease it. Like that's your That is also your job on this show is to The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: you're you're the marketing for it. So like that in that aspect, fine, so be it. But then we get to the reunion and get brought it gets brought up again. And I'm like, I was very matter-of-fact, I was like, I just want you to know I'm a viewer at this point. I had no idea she was talking about you, like literally none. And I do see like some people were saying that, and then she kind of looked at me like like whatever, and she was just like, But it's not nice like for my friend to do that. I was like Compartmentalized correct. We're talking about a friendship outside of the show. Absolutely. Like if you say something in confidence, that should not be repeated. And I'm with you on that. But like I just want you to know that The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: I did not, none of us knew that it was you based off of her Instagram. Like I was just being The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: matter-of-fact. I had no idea. And then she starts all of a sudden. you know, spilling the tea. I don't know if it's got aired, but like about some with them in a production van or something like that. Did that was I didn't even watch the reunion because I was just The Drama Drop: Yeah, no, it that was so it's like she aired it herself. Maya: there. Correct. She aired it herself. So I'm just and then I'm I'm kind of looking at like my other castmates and we're just like I like The Drama Drop: So confusing. Maya: they're dragging Juliana through the mud. Like literally dragging her by her hair. Like and To each their own. I'm not gonna sit here and be Julianna's mouthpiece. I'm just I'm just here. But I will de I mean, that is the truth. And I think it was valuable coming from me, someone that wasn't even involved in the plot. Like I was like, What are you saying? The Drama Drop: Right. I feel like you had a really good position because it's like, yeah, you were there. So you're a part of the cast, but you left so early that it's like you didn't have to really Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: address any conflict. Like you didn't have conflict with anybody else. So, like you said, it's like you were able to kind of see and also still be a part of the inside. You know, you're not just Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: some random person on the internet. so yeah, yeah, I feel like Maya: Right. I truly have both perspectives. Like actually. Mm-hmm. Yeah. The Drama Drop: your perspective holds a lot more weight than just like. Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: somebody watching it from their couch. Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: but yeah, no, because I would have had no idea had Abby not said anything. And yeah, I'm sure I mean, again, I don't know. I don't not in her brain, but I could see it being like, I'm just gonna play this up as if I'm offended by Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: what she says. So that way I can go ahead and just make sure everybody knows that I was the one that did. Yeah. Maya: Right, correct. And by the way, if I was her, not saying I handle everything correctly, but like I would be like, god guys, well if we're talking about it, it was me. Like you could The Drama Drop: Yeah. Yeah. Maya: have been like real and like funny about it, but instead we're now pinning creating a girl against girl moment and like The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: you're trying to have your moment on I don't think like ethical pretenses. Like I don't I didn't I The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: just like didn't I don't know, I didn't like that. The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: I called her out pretty fat. they clipped it. The Drama Drop: I'm so sad they didn't show that. Maya: Yeah, 'cause we were all thinking it. So and here I go again, just s The Drama Drop: Yeah, I feel like that would've been very important to show, especially considering that she did she like went in full detail talking about Maya: It was it w that was I like that was nuts. That was nuts. So now you're The Drama Drop: I was like, wait, what's going on? Maya: gonna not only are you gonna whatever, now you not only you're gonna air out your The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: shit, but now we're getting into details now. The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: And like I would scream for the hills if I was intimate with Harry Jowsey. I get it. The Drama Drop: Ha Maya: I know what you're I good for you. I would be saying the same thing. I The Drama Drop: my Maya: would be freaking sending out newsletters to all of New York City. But like I don't know. Like I just The Drama Drop: Yeah. That's crazy. Did you know that Juliana wasn't going to show like prior to you did? Yeah. Maya: Yeah, yeah, she told me. I mean, Juliana and I are friends. Like I, The Drama Drop: Okay, that's good. Maya: I love someone that is just being real. Even if you're wacky, even if you're being if you sound insane, if you're just The Drama Drop: Mm-hmm. Maya: undeniably yourself, like you're that is cool to me. Like I don't The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: you could be the quote unquote weirdest person in the world, but like she was just being herself. She felt like they were in love. Granted, The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: do I think that's absolutely insane? Cor yes, because that would never be me because I'm just not like that. But she really did feel that. And like I I don't know. The Drama Drop: Yeah. And Maya: And they had a strong connection, they did. The Drama Drop: yeah, I mean it did definitely feel more intense than and whatever Harry, however he wanted to spin it to basically be like, Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: it's almost like I'm backed into a corner, like she's making me Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: feel like this. It did seem like theirs was more in intense than the other ones. And obviously, as we all know as reality TV fans, like you you're not seeing the full picture. and I feel it's funny because it's like everybody knows that's how reality TV works. But it's like everybody Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: always seems to forget it once they have somebody that they don't wanna like and you know, be against. It's like Maya: Right. Right. The Drama Drop: now we're just gonna take everything for face value and like that's just what it is without realizing there's so much more that goes on. Like we all I mean, here's a great example, like the whole scene with Harry and Danelle, and it made it look like they were the ones that had hooked up on the show, which we learned later that that wasn't the case. So, you know, it's like Maya: Right, right. Right. I The Drama Drop: that's a great example as to how editing can make something look way more than what it is. but no, I mean I was a fan of Juliana Maya: But like the thing is too The Drama Drop: because I listen, I love a polarizing person on a reality show. Like they're my favorite. Like I Maya: So do I, I love it. Yeah. my favorite. Like high takes a lot of guts too. The Drama Drop: It does. It does. Because like that's the thing. Like you said, it's like I may not necessarily agree with it or whatever, but it's like you're being yourself and I respect that. You're just Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: not, you know, you know, okay, great, cameras are there. You're not gonna act a certain way. Cause that's so frustrating and so annoying. It's like you, Maya: Right. Yeah. The Drama Drop: you know you what you signed up for. There's the camera, just be yourself. And if it ends up being edited a certain way that you don't like, Like that sucks. But like at least, you know, you did everything that you you could. Maya: Yeah. And that's the thing with me. It's like I wasn't upset with my, you know, edit because The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: I was just being me. Like I was just it is like there's nothing more that I could have done because I was just being The Drama Drop: Yeah. Right. Maya: myself. So whatever they were gonna do with it, fine. Like I'm not looking back on it like, I should have said this or I shouldn't have said that. I should have done my hair this way, I should have worn a different dress. It's like no. Like The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: it all felt right to me. And like back to the Juliana thing, like we've all been like we're girls and especially too. There's like a lot of girl on girl slander, like in like social media comments and all the stuff. And meaning girl audience on cast member, aka Juliana. Like we've all The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: been there where like a guy like makes you feel so special. And especially like Harry Jowsey's giving you their attention. Like you're only human. It's like we like maybe like I do love you. Like who the hell? The Drama Drop: Right. No, yeah. Maya: Like I I mean, I would I don't think it's that outrageous. I think it's more outrageous. For like these other girls to be. I think it's, and this is not a judgment judgmental, like everyone can be intimate whenever they want. But like I think it's more crazy to be being intimate on camera without saying I love you. How about that? And that's and there's so many different The Drama Drop: Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Like let's talk about that. Maya: right. So there's like so many different like levels to this shit. And I think that The Drama Drop: Mm-hmm. Maya: She whatever, she had a little bit of a crazy edit, but she was being herself and he made her feel that way. And he literally gaslet her into saying it and then made it look like that she was she was crazy for saying The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: it. And it's like she wouldn't just flat out I don't know. The Drama Drop: Right. And another thing that I I I like just remembered it that she said on the show. And I remember I looked at my husband and I was like, that's actually, you know, like kind of a good point. When you know, cause obviously she wants a lot of time with him because she is feeling these feelings. Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: And when she is with him, like he's making her feel this way. So it's like, yay. But, you know, it's like if she's trying to give him attention or like spend time with him and he's like, well, I need to talk to so and so, you know, and she's getting frustrated by that and she's like, Well, he hasn't spent a lot of time with so and so, whatever, but like, why should I have to put like our relationship Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: and what we're growing on pause so other people can catch up? And I'm like, wait, Maya: Facts. Absolutely. When The Drama Drop: yeah, that actually makes a lot of sense. Maya: Right. And it mimics her actions, like her The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: b being in love with him and or having that deep connection. It's like, yeah, if you have if you actually have a deep connection with someone, that's exactly how you're going to act. It's not The Drama Drop: Mm-hmm. Maya: gonna be nice to see all these other girls vying for his attention and him giving the the attention back. So I think she was being real as fuck and that's that. Like period. The Drama Drop: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I did find it weird that a lot of it seemed like as the show was going on, all these g other girls were just kind of like, it's your turn. It's your turn. Like, how did your date go? Like, all just like kikiing about it. Yeah. I'm like, wait a second. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Maya: Being happy for each other? Like, no, I'm not happy for you. Why would I be happy for you? And if I am happy for you, like you should watch your back with me, because I'm probably a snake. Like that's weird. I I can't The Drama Drop: Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, I felt really bad that she felt like she couldn't go. it made me really sad because Maya: I do too. The Drama Drop: I it definitely felt like, you know, she probably, you know, wants to defend herself, but it felt like, okay, Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: it's probably not gonna be the best room. So she's really lucky that she had you to, you know, kind of help, Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: you know, stick stuff stick up for her. But that's so sad. Of course, like it didn't make. It didn't really. Maya: Right. I mean like I definitely was gonna speak up in that situation for the other ones, like with Sammy and all that stuff. I I I think like Sammy had a right to be like they I think their feud is warranted in a way. Like I think she came at Sam I think I don't totally agree with what happened with that, but you know, I'll call Spade a spade. The Drama Drop: Yeah, but I think that's great. Like you you're like the perfect person for reality TV. It's like seriously, like those are Maya: 'cause The Drama Drop: my favorite people. It's like, I could love you, but I'm also gonna call you out on your shit. Like, like just because I ride for you doesn't mean I'm just gonna Maya: Correct. That's how life is, yeah. The Drama Drop: defend you in every like I'm gonna tell you when that was a little crazy. Like Okay, so Maya: For sure. Absolutely. Yeah. The Drama Drop: then Harry and Amber, obviously. Okay, so coming into it, did you know? anything about their marriage and them not being together anymore. Maya: Amber and I, so like she really had to stay silent, obviously, but I mean it was you can infer that they were not together anymore. And her and I had had dialogue that was basically saying it without saying it. and I would just kind of check in on her and just be like, hey, like, are you okay? And then, you know, she's super positive. So she was able, you know, without saying She was alluding The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: to something, but she was always keeping it positive. Which also is why when she showed up guns blazing at the reunion, I was like, Whoa, like, whoa, what The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: did I miss? But warranted. but I had heard I I had no idea that Donnell saw him though. So it's like I don't I never that whole timeline The Drama Drop: Okay. So that was the news. Maya: I had no idea. But I knew they weren't together and I had heard that he is in a re you know, entered another relationship with the Australian influencer, so The Drama Drop: Does that shock you at all that they're not together? Maya: No. I mean, I I was it shocks me. It shocks me that he would go on this whole revenge tour of his fuckboy past and all the stuff and went on the show to reinvent himself and it just just fails so miserably. Like i The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: I can't that I'm surprised about because it's like, wow, like at least like you would think he would it would have been stayed they would have stayed together longer just so he can save himself like being such a failure failure in that aspect. The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: But I also respect it. Like if it's not working, it's not working. And like I think it's also real that they were able to make that decision. And yeah. Especially yeah, so The Drama Drop: Yeah. Cause it's like you did all this for what? Like, yeah, you said you wanted to erase that whole image of you, show people Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: that you are ready for marriage, you want to start a family, but then this is how like you get married, and then not only that, then you go meet up and hook up Maya: Mm-hmm. The Drama Drop: with the runner up of who you were gonna get married. But then Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: not only that, now you're with somebody totally, completely different. And I mean, yeah, like if you're not feeling it, you shouldn't have to stay with that person. But it's just kind of like, did he actually want growth? Did he actually want to get married? Like that's where my mind goes. It's like, was this just a whole facade just to have a show, just to stay relevant? because in my mind, somebody that did have that past, not judging anybody that has that past, but I'm just thinking, like, like I don't know how to compare it, but it's like, okay, you have this, you know. Fuck boy energy, whatever. So you're gonna go insert yourself being around twenty women and just really quickly think like you're just gonna find like the person that you're gonna spend the rest Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: of your life like you're still like beep bopping around a bunch of people. Like Maya: Right. It's literally just a more controlled environment for him to do what he's always done. And The Drama Drop: Yeah. Yeah. Maya: like I yeah, that's a really good point that you make. And also too, well, this is the thing. I d I do think I take people's word, like I just will, and I do think that he was who like who wouldn't like want to potentially find the one, right? So it's like if you put The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: it in those terms, it's like he's ready. anyone's gonna The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: say they're ready. But you really don't know that you're ready until you it's time, like it's go time. Like they're about The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: they're on at the altar and they're they're really like in it. So I think I will give him the benefit of the doubt that I do think that he went in this with the intentions that he wanted to find the one. But I mean i i the unwell network and you know just the whole the creators of the show like ha you have to know that this is gonna be very challenging. The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: So, like putting him in this environment with a bunch of girls. I mean, that's also why like I didn't want to take the approach of like throwing myself on him because he's lustful, you know? He's extremely The Drama Drop: Very, very Maya: lustful and He kinda rem- I he kinda reminds me of myself a little bit. Like, I'm like a I'm able to, I feel like I'm able to relate to him on a very, very, very, very, let me emphasize this, very small scale, okay? The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: But I can understand. I mean, he has girls throwing themselves at him. The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: Beautiful, successful, smart, all the things, amazing girls. Like, I don't know. He's still young. He is. And like. The Drama Drop: Yeah. Mm-hmm. And he's still young at the end of the day. Like, you know, yeah. Maya: I'm sorry, like I'm not gonna speak for the other girls or their experience, but like, are you ready for marriage? Like we're being so The Drama Drop: Right. Yeah. Maya: awful to him about it, but it's like I probably like If I was Harry on the show, I probably would have done the same thing. But not The Drama Drop: No, yeah. Maya: Amber, not Amber's narrative included in all of this, because that The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: sucks. Like that is awful. I actually The Drama Drop: Okay. Maya: just made a video about this today. And I'm like, I'm not invalidating anybody, but unless you're Amber, like, why are we letting this man rage bait us? Like, we know how men work. Like. The Drama Drop: my god, exactly. Maya: We l why are we we can't let's not lose our cool on on this, you know? He didn't bat an eye. He didn't give a shit. So The Drama Drop: Yeah. Yeah. No, a hundred percent. Right. Yeah. I'm like, why why? Like, and again, you guys know how he is. Like, you've seen the shows that he's on. Like. Maya: That's what saying. Wait, you wanna know something really funny? Sorry, I just need to say this point, because it's like a lot The Drama Drop: Yeah, no please. Maya: of the girls, like you said, had claimed they don't know him. They didn't know who he was, they don't know his past. But for not knowing his past, it seems like you know all about it because we're at the reunion and now you're saying that he's resorting back to his old ways and all the things. It's The Drama Drop: Wait. Maya: like, but I thought you didn't know who he was. So it's like it and and The Drama Drop: That is such a good point. Yeah. Maya: I i those environments make me extremely uncomfortable because once I Once I am feeling like pe things aren't genuine, things aren't real, things aren't adding up, that's when I f I like feel very like anxious. And that's also The Drama Drop: Mm-hmm. Maya: how I felt while filming. I just felt like the math was never mathing. The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: And and yeah, so that's like an ex that's a perfect example. I did. The Drama Drop: You got out at the right time. okay, so question. So well, first what I thought also too was interesting. It's like, you know, Amber and Harry, like he said that he didn't cheat on her with Danelle. He said that they were broken up, but I'm like, is there a breakup in a marriage? Maya: I was liter I was literally thinking that when that was being spoken about. I'm like, a breakup text? Is that how The Drama Drop: Yeah, I'm like, I don't I don't think that's how that works. Like this isn't a friends situation, you know, with Rachel and Ross. It Maya: Right, right. The Drama Drop: was like, no, we were on a break. Like, no, like when you're married, maybe it's okay, I need some space or something, Maya: It's not a break up text. The Drama Drop: but the there's not like a breakup. Maya: Which is also very it gives me, you know, the intel that he did not realize what he has gotten himself into and he doesn't understand the value of it. Because if you're someone that, you know, really values that and take The Drama Drop: Mm-hmm. Maya: is taking this seriously, I think the biggest telltale sign is actually what you're gonna do after the fact. After the breakup or during the breakup. I don't think it's while you're in the The Drama Drop: For sure. Maya: relationship. I think i your wife or your husband, that it's a giant F you. You're supposed to have like undeniable respect and consideration for that person. So so The Drama Drop: Absolutely. Maya: that was disheartening. and okay, Danelle I don't blame you. Like, I don't blame you at all. I I think we've all been there and I get it. However, The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: the whole he you guys were broken up, overlap, whatever it is, that shouldn't even be a discrepancy when you're involved. Like that shouldn't even be a topic when you are involved in a marriage. Like it doesn't The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: matter if the breakup text was yesterday and I'm flying out there tomorrow. Actually, The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: it doesn't even matter if the breakup text was yesterday and you're flying out there six months later. Like it's sticky. So The Drama Drop: Right. Mm-hmm. Maya: I think a lot of people are And I don't it's it's on Harry. It's on Harry because The Drama Drop: for sure. Maya: at the end of the day, Danelle was still in love with him and he's flying her out. Go, girl. I would do it too. But like The Drama Drop: Right. Yeah. Maya: from Amber's, there like there's different perspectives to this. But like Amber's perspective perspective, I she was completely valid for that, you know, for attacking Danelle for a second, she did. Push push it back. She probab she realized it was maybe a little bit OD, but I mean that would be my initial reaction. It's like, okay, cool, we broke up yesterday. On this date we were considered broken up and the next day, what, you're fucking my boyfriend or my husband? I don't know. The Drama Drop: Yeah, for sure. I definitely felt like I definitely saw both sides for Amber and Danelle because it's like Maya: Same, yeah. The Drama Drop: Amber is just so hurt. And you know, it's like she just wants to also take it out on Danelle because it's like she was a part of the whole situation, but it's so easy. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Maya: It's too easy to take it out on Harry. It's such it's almost a cop out. Like you need someone else. Yeah, I get it. The Drama Drop: And then of course, you know, Danelle, it's like, okay, this girl, like. Is it really her responsibility to necessarily reach out to confirm? Because, you know, if you know and I think it was clear too, like just seeing how she responded in the reunion. Cause I know I'm sitting here and I'm questioning these girls saying that they have these feelings, but I mean it was very clear that Amber and Donnell, like their feelings weren't like you could just see like with how they were were responding and reacting to things. So if, you know, she really had all these feelings for him and then it's like, this guy, like I did think that I was going to marry, he's Coming back to me. Like you said, we've all been there. It's like when your feelings are involved, like you don't, you're not thinking rationally, you're not really caring. Maya: No, there's no logic. The Drama Drop: It's like he's coming back to you. And it's almost like, like he realized that I was probably better for, you know, you're just so focused on that. You're not gonna think, wait, hold on, let me go text so and so. Like Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: you would think too, he would be truthful to you. Like, Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: it's not working. also too. If we're really thinking about it, like I would feel weird to get a text. I mean, it's like, I don't know. I feel like there's probably no necessarily right way because this is such a weird situation. But it's like, imagine you're just like sitting at a restaurant with your friend and then you get a text. It's like, hey, by the way, like, you know, your ex Harry, he's gonna come. Like, are you guys actually broken up because or divorced because he wants to get back to Are you cool with that? What? Yeah. Maya: Right. Like that's such an uncomfortable thing to do. Like that's so weird. And like and if I was Danelle, like I would have been there yesterday. Like I would have literally The Drama Drop: Yeah yeah. Maya: been in his bed. Like, are you kidding me? Also, the way that they met, the way that they met was in like a comp a competition setting. So it's like, all right, it must be me now. It must be me. He realized it's not hurt. It's my time. And you went through all that vibration. Right, correct. The Drama Drop: Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. It's my time. He's put the watch on my wrist now, like I I Maya: Like you I went through all this emotional distress. I went in front The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: of the cameras and did this, maybe felt embarrassed or whatever it is. And he's now coming back to me with his tail tied like between The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: his legs. And it's like, I'm I'm The Drama Drop: Mm-hmm. Maya: gonna I'm gonna s try and see this through. But then The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: obviously you find out he failed after two days. And that's The Drama Drop: That's crazy. Maya: when then then I flip-flop back and I'm like, maybe she should have known better. So it's like it's hard to follow this. The Drama Drop: I think if she were to go back after this, if she ever entertained him again, then it would be like you're no. Like, yeah. That would be insane. Maya: She can't be doing that. No no no. You're you're she you know, no no no. So I also was thinking the whole time, I'm like, my gosh, this is so crazy that he's like in another relationship already. Like what his girlfriend The Drama Drop: my god. Okay. Maya: is just like watching this all unfold. The Drama Drop: So yeah, I have I was like, I need to make sure that I'm understanding this correctly. So cause I just was so gagged at Amber, just like she s did not stutter. Like she was just start to finish. Like she had everything that she wanted to say. And Maya: No, it was crazy to watch, yeah. The Drama Drop: I was like, my gosh, this is crazy. She annihilated him. Maya: It was so crazy that I thought that like they had maybe have been like they have like talked about them being like that and stuff because like she was like so like The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: it I felt like I was watching a movie. I was like And I was like, okay, The Drama Drop: Yeah. No. Maya: wait, you're in the cameras, like don't act like can you not like make all those facial Yeah, I'm ch I'm like so The Drama Drop: Like try not to be so like whoa what's going on? Maya: stoic. I'm like yeah The Drama Drop: okay, so okay, so if I'm remembering and like recalling it correctly, he was, you know, trying to throw people off, you know, because obviously like the show, so he's like trying to protect that he picked her, you know, for the show purposes. So they're in Australia. And to throw people off, he's just like creating content with this person. So first I would think, okay, if I was Amber, if I'm your wife in this situation, your ass is gonna stay inside too with me if we can't go outside. Maya: Right. And also too, it's like in a marriage, like it those are that's like quality time. So that actually The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: that would have been that would have been probably like my The Drama Drop: Thick. Maya: favorite part. Me as a person, that is my favorite part of like building a connection with someone. It's just like The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: literally doing nothing and being forced to The Drama Drop: Absolutely. Maya: have a face to face y it you know what though? It just speaks to the fact and He needs to be he can't it's going to be hard for him to be with somebody that's not in his world. Like The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: he is a celebrity at this point. Like he The Drama Drop: Mm-hmm. Maya: is. And like it's a big i listening to him even talk about like not being able to be seen and all that stuff. Like, I don't even know like how to relate to that, like whatsoever. I couldn't even imagine. Like that must have been so weird. I don't think he should be she brought up a really good point. Like he shouldn't be blaming the failure of their relationship because there was like Netflix wasn't letting them hang out. out. It's like you knew this, you signed up for this. It's like you're right, The Drama Drop: Right. Yeah. Maya: you're right. If this is your wife and the some per the person you're spending the rest of your life with, this year period or 10 month period of us having to keep it under wraps is not gonna affect you. Like at all. So The Drama Drop: No, for sure. Yep. Maya: that's crazy. But yeah, so apparently they were In Australia, and he was making content with I guess it's his girlfriend now. I honestly am not like the biggest Harry Jowsy follower. I know who he is, and I'll never pretend I don't, but I'm actually I The Drama Drop: Right. You don't live under a rock, yeah. Maya: actually didn't even follow him on Instagram before, however, I did know who he was. But so I didn't really I can't clock what that situation was, but yeah, he was making content with another creator to kind of put the blockers on him and the blinders on him and Amber to the public because they had gotten spot they got spotted and and they got clipped they the pictures, all this all this stuff. And he was like, The Drama Drop: Gosh. Maya: it would be to cover our tracks. Like I'm gonna start like overcompensating and creating content with this girl. And I guess right after Australia they broke up and he's dating this girl now. The Drama Drop: See, that's and again, yeah. Not Maya: Crazy. That's not okay. No. The Drama Drop: okay. And I mean, it just further proves, which first of all, I don't even know how this girl would be okay with any of this and think, yay, he's picking me now. Like, when's the next girl gonna come in? Yeah, it's just Maya: You lose how you get okay? The Drama Drop: like he is so tunnel vision. It's like whatever's right in front of him, that's that's who he's interested Maya: Crazy. The Drama Drop: in. Like nothing else will matter. Like he's not the type of person that's. Thinking like, I miss my wife, like she's not Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: here right now. I can't wait to go home with her. It's like, who's right here? It no. Exactly, exactly. And it's like, no, like, Maya: Right, which is why you're not ready for marriage and just say it with say it with your chest, you know, it's not a big deal. It's really not it's not for everybody. The Drama Drop: exa yeah. Like there are some people that are just meant to be bachelors for forever. And Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: also to, if not, if there is a day, you know, that you are supposed to get married and like, You will find your person, how you're supposed to, and there'll be no freaking question. Because I will say to you, like this just while I'm saying this, it made me think about it. I really did not like towards the end of the show, whenever he was like talking to his confidants. And again, who knows, maybe this was part for like the drama of it. But when he was like going back and forth between Danelle and Amber and he was like, I don't know, like what if I just like don't know about either? And the I can't even remember her name now, but was isn't Amanda? Maya: Mm-hmm. I mean they yeah. The Drama Drop: Okay, how she was like, no, you need to pick one. Like you have to pick one. And I'm like, him right there, like not kind of teeter tottering, like I'm like that, Maya: The sign was right there. Yeah. The Drama Drop: like, my gosh. I'm like, he does not he's not ready for that. And again, no, no, go ahead. Maya: It was so strange. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. No, I was just saying it was like so strange to me because I feel like he didn't like seem like he like liked either of them. Like, like, granted, and he should, they were in amazing girls, he should be kissing their freaking feet. But like, The Drama Drop: Mm-hmm. Maya: I it like my man, like if you're gonna marry me, if you're thinking about marrying me, like you can see it in someone when you just adore someone. I wasn't getting that like a door factor The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: from him, you know? It wasn't like l the like a glimmer in his eyes when looking at one of them and like I The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: I it just I actually like didn't know what to expect from the finale because I it would have made the most sense if he didn't leave with either of them because it was just I didn't see that like passion for the love. And I did I just didn't. So I I yeah The Drama Drop: Yeah. Yeah. I was honestly expecting like for it to almost be just more sh honestly, it would have been more shocking if at the very end he was like, I'm sorry, I can't pick either of you. And I think Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: that would have been more honorable and give him his flowers Maya: Completely. The Drama Drop: if he would have done that. Cause it's like also too like the whole idea of marriage, you know, it's like in a perfect world, you do it once, but it's like Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: the whole thing is supposed to be very, you know, sacred, special. So it's like you're going through that whole process, just cosplaying marriage. And it's just kind of like, okay, great. So it's like the next time, Maya: Right. The Drama Drop: you know, it's like, okay, like this almost, I feel like, would diminish how special it all is. But I would have thought felt like it would have been so much more interesting and entertaining had he been like, I can't, like, I really I like you girls. Like I do there could be something more. But Maya: He would have been being true to himself, yeah. The Drama Drop: as in terms of a marriage, like I'm just not there. And going back to what you said on like him not really being like so ador or like whatever you said. You know what yeah. He, Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: I feel like does those same like he's very intense with his eye contact. And it's like if you can do that for all, it then means nothing. You know, it's like one of those things, a friend to all is a friend to none. So it's like if you can Maya: Yeah. Friend to none, yeah. It's just like spreading yourself so thin to where you can't hone in on one thing. It's like y he's a you know what he is. The Drama Drop: Yes, yes, yeah. And that's why all these girls were like so convinced that he felt a different way for them, but it's like, no, yeah, yes. Maya: Right. He's a people pleaser. He's a people pleaser. And as surface level as that sounds, it's actually quite deep. It's like you The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: it it He the thought of disappointing someone like I think Harry lies out of anxiety. I don't think he actually wants to hurt somebody. I don't think it's any of it is deliberate. I think that he genuinely gets worried that he's gonna hurt someone and the people pleasing is obviously The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: going to fail. And that is why he lies. That's why he cheats, that's why he does the wrong things, cause he's not able to just say it because he doesn't want to hurt someone. And I know it's coming from a good place. I can I just know. I'm a very good read on people. Like I I just I just know that that it's coming from it's not coming from a malicious place. So when we're at the reunion, everyone's like attacking him. Amber does not include it in any of his talk because she's she's married to the guy. But The Drama Drop: Right. Yeah. Maya: when everyone's like attacking him and like coming at him, it's like I did feel for him because it's like I know that he did not mean to hurt anybody. He genuinely just doesn't want, he doesn't wanna disappoint anybody. And in turn The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: though he ends up disappointing everybody d The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: while not while trying not to. But he is a people pleaser and I think that's like actually something like I'm not even being funny right now. Like he should go to therapy for that. Like I like he actually The Drama Drop: Yeah. Yeah. Maya: should. You see it. It's so obvious to me what it is. The Drama Drop: Yeah, that is a really good point. Cause I mean, whenever he was letting Juliana go and you could just Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: see it in his face, like it looked like he wanted to throw up, like just like having to tell her, Maya: Yeah, for s for real. The Drama Drop: like, I'm sorry, like this isn't good. And then it's like at the same yeah, Maya: He has empathy. The Drama Drop: for sure. And so I do agree with you on that. Cause in what most people say, they all said that he has a good heart. I feel like even Juliana just recently, Maya: Right, all of his friends, yeah. The Drama Drop: like, said that he she was like, I do know, like deep down, like he does have a good you I feel like that is pretty consistent in what most people say about him, even if you get burned by him. So Maya: For real. Yeah. Even if you get buried by it. Yeah. The Drama Drop: I do agree with you on that. I feel like it is just a mix of like he just can't handle not making somebody feel good or happy or with him. So he just gets himself in Maya: Seriously. And that also could be The Drama Drop: trouble. Maya: and it also could like tie into his like egotistical narrative where it's like it makes him feel good to do things for like doing things for other people and making other people feel good actually fuels him and makes him feel better about himself, which is a bit of like narcissism, which also translate then it translates into him being a toxic fuckboy. So it's like a whole The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: I can go on I can go on and on about this, but like I don't think he's a bad person. I don't think he means to he means any harm and Aside Amber aside, I think the hostility at the reunion I thought I thought it was a little bit inappropriate. I it wasn't cute, it wasn't tasteful, and I was kind of sitting back there like, Why are we doing this? Like, what's The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: the objective here? And like at the end of the day, he doesn't know any of us. He also barely even knows Amber. Like, and she barely The Drama Drop: Right. Yeah. Maya: even knows him. It's like I'm just I'm only saying that just to exaggerate the point that he really doesn't know us. And like, The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: for someone to be like yelling at him and all this stuff, for someone that and I'm not naming names, but like somebody that claims that they didn't know him before. for someone to feel so strongly and to just attack him the entire reunion, I it just I care I care about these girls. Like I don't want these girls to look bad. It's like I d it's like whoa. I had like secondhand embarrassment. The Drama Drop: Yeah, it's like let's reel it in a little bit. Maya: For for real. The Drama Drop: my gosh. Yeah, no, that that was really a hard watch. I mean, how is Amber doing now? I mean, I know obviously you can't like speak for her, but like hopefully sh she was able to get everything off of her chest. Maya: I think she's excited to close this chapter finally. I think The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: she made a really strong and like kind of like pulled like at my heartstrings a little bit when she was saying like she's been dealing with all of this in silence. And it's been almost a year of that. Like that must have been, The Drama Drop: That's so crazy. Maya: yeah, that must have been really tough. And kind of while he gets to just prance around and post this ridiculous content and all this stuff, it's like The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: she, you know, she doesn't hold any she doesn't she's not in a position of power whatsoever. So The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: I think she's e excited to close the door. I see so many amazing so many amazing things are gonna, you know, come up for her and she's smart and all all the amazing things and like I see such like just only light like at the end of the tunnel and I think this is just gonna make her stronger. I just feel like every downfall or every negative thing that happens in life is a opportunity to learn and it's you're just like another stepping stone in like the direction that you're supposed to be in. So The Drama Drop: Yeah, definitely. I'm excited Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: to see what she does moving forward and watching her thrive and everything. But Maya: Me too. Yeah. The Drama Drop: but what about you? Like how are you doing? Are you dating anybody? Like what's your situation looking like? Maya: Yeah, well, okay, yeah, so I have my own marketing agency. So like I'm a workaholic. So like I The Drama Drop: I love that. Maya: yeah, so I'm so focused on all of that. I also like I'm I'm super social. Like I'm I'm like friends work. Than maybe The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: a man. I've had a few little flings since filming Raps that I think I just knew weren't serious, so that's why I entertained it. I'm not unlike Harry, I'm not going to admit that I'm ready for marriage. So I'm not. I don't think I am. But I The Drama Drop: Right, yeah. And I think that's good. Maya: definitely would always be open to meeting my person and I always do position myself to to do that, but I'm not actively like there's a big dating culture in New York and I'm not really a part of it. If I went where I meet you naturally and if it's a natural fit, then I'll definitely entertain it. But The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: I've got deals to close, I got a business to grow and yeah. Got a life to build on my own. The Drama Drop: I love that. I love that. And honestly, I feel like meeting organically is way more exciting. Cause you're just like not expecting it versus like putting yourself in there. I do have to ask though, Maya: Yeah. For real. Exactly. Yeah. The Drama Drop: did you tell these gu like flings that you were gonna be like was the show, I'm assuming it wasn't out yet? Did you tell them that you were Maya: Yeah, no, wasn't even close. I honestly one guy that felt like we were getting a little bit more serious, I did tell him I don't like to feel like I'm like hiding something 'cause also The Drama Drop: Right. Maya: too, like although like it's a red flag in a guy to like have an issue with this, I can understand how it's just like it is naturally like an uncomfortable it could be uncomfortable. So I think like The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: everybody deserves to know. But I like really didn't want anybody to to know. I like The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: I also didn't know like I didn't like think it was it was that cool. Like like I I didn't I I w I didn't know what it was gonna be. I had no idea and like I just feel like in New York City and stuff, like people don't give a shit. They're like okay, they'll they'd be like what we don't care. The Drama Drop: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so t tell me a little bit more though about your business. So like what Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: is your business? Like what are you doing with it? Tell me I need to know Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: like the business side of Maya. Maya: Yeah. so and yeah, I need to like start introducing this now because I feel like this is like something that I've been just like dying for everybody that's like not in my circle to know. But yeah, so I have my own influencer marketing agency that I started when I was twenty one, so like a while ago. Well, like five years ago. The Drama Drop: wow. That's awesome. Maya: I started freelancing and managing creators, and this is what I was trying to explain on the show, but it obviously didn't hit. But I was trying to explain The Drama Drop: Wait, yeah, before sorry, I'm not to cut you off, but I do want to go off that. With what you Maya: No. Yeah. The Drama Drop: were saying about like your personality, like being it goes hand in hand with your business. So like Maya: No, it really does. And actually what I was explaining was that I was a dancer growing up and I was always I was in front of the camera. I was trying to relate to him because he's been in front of the camera. So I was like, I've always been The Drama Drop: I yeah, yeah. Maya: in front of the cameras and was always told like that I do great in front of the cameras or whatever. The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: And it was always natural for me and I felt like When I was building my career and I was no longer a dancer, that I could truly understand what it takes to properly support talent because I was once the talent and I had people doing things for me and kind of doing what I was doing. Marketing wasn't that big of a thing back then, but you know, for what it was then. So that's what I was trying to explain. The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: and it led me to a lot of success at a very young age in this industry because I have lived both sides. So The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: I can truly sympathize with the talent and I understand their needs like very naturally. So I was trying to explain that I was able to start my business at a young age because I naturally already had that. And then so I just started freelancing. I was Getting, you know, getting clients. I was working my ass off to prove myself to those clients, especially too. The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: You have imposter syndrome, obviously, when you're 21 years old going out on your own. And then I started seeing a lot of success. And what we, you know, what we focus on is we connect creators with brands and we The Drama Drop: Night. Maya: manage the execution of brand deals. So we'll get the deals for them and do everything everything that has to do with executing a brand deal. And it's pretty niche right now, but like we also do content strategy and all the things but that is how I started and that's what we specialize in. And I I'm a I I I'm a go-getter. I'm like extremely ambitious. Like I see something and I go for it. And like nothing was gonna stop me from getting to where I am now. my agency's called Influence by Maya Avery. And yeah I definitely was gonna be the face of my brand because I wanna be and I should be The Drama Drop: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Maya: and this was just this show was just Another opportunity for me that I I couldn't pass pass that up. It's it goes with my me being The Drama Drop: Yeah, absolutely. Maya: like a go. That's what I do. I will take every opportunity, even if it's embarrassing. Like I you miss you miss every shot you don't take. So yeah. Thank you. I appreciate it. People might say otherwise. The Drama Drop: Yeah. I don't think it's embarrassing. I think yeah. Yeah. No. I think I think it was great. okay. Do you have anything coming up that we need to be on the lookout for? That you can share, I guess. Okay. Okay. Maya: I can't share. I can't share some things, but you'll know soon. it's gonna be it's really exciting, yeah. I didn't say that, but I didn't say that. But I The Drama Drop: my gosh, my mind. I feel like you're gonna be on another reality show. Can't confirm or deny. Okay, okay. Maya: but yeah, like I think that I see A lot for myself also just like coming up as I start taking social media more seriously myself. I've never taken the time to like I post a shitload, but it's like the stupidest stuff. Like I'm like out with my friends or like it's it's truly a personal page. The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: And I have seen even, you know a little glimpse of more success with my business since this has all come out and I'm just so grateful like and blessed I had this opportunity because I am seeing it and I just wanna take it and run run with it. I feel like I'm super motivated right now. I'm on a I'm my momentum is kicked in and I wanna drive this thing through the roof and if that that might mean also me being on the creator side as well. I'm not I don't The Drama Drop: Yeah. Maya: think I'm not totally I'm not so passionate about it because I don't have the confidence that people really wanna s Who am I to think that like people wanna see me on their screen every second? But you know, it's the name of the game. Thank you. But yeah. Thank you. Thank you. But yeah, and like thank you for giving me this platform to like clear things up. Yeah. Thank you. The Drama Drop: We do. We do. Yeah. No, I think you're great. Yeah. that's super exciting. Absolutely. Absolutely. So happy to have you on. before I close out, I do want to play a game with you called Sheiker Week. And I'm just gonna Maya: Okay. Mmm. Sounds like my kind of game. The Drama Drop: be rapid fire, just like saying things, scenarios, whatever. And then you can just say chic or weak. Feel free to elaborate if you want, but you know. Maya: Okay. The Drama Drop: All right. Okay. Going on a reality show to find your future husband or wife. Maya: I think it's chic. The Drama Drop: Having your friends decide your future partner. Being Maya: Weak, weak. Weak weak weak. We need to have minds of our own. The Drama Drop: eliminated on the first round. Maya: Weak. I need to tell these The Drama Drop: For your situation, honestly, I think it was chic. Maya: Okay, it's specialized like it's weak because I don't like losing. Like I I don't I don't like to lose, but it was The Drama Drop: Okay, that's fair. That's fair. Maya: chic because it was supposed to happen and thank freaking god it did. So two things can be true with that one. The Drama Drop: Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely. ditching the reunion because you want to. Maya: Chic. I think that was sick. The Drama Drop: Amber throwing her engagement ring at Harry. Maya: Sheik, that was so funny. I'm I it was so it was so funny because I was actually there and I saw that they were like getting into something and I was like, what just happened? But then seeing it on TV, I was like, my gosh, that was what I was witnessing. So funny. The Drama Drop: Yeah, like that was crazy because I was like, wow, normally everybody, yeah, they just kind of go off. And I was like, wait, wait, she's turning around. She's coming back. Wait, this isn't. I was like, okay. Yeah, I loved it. running Maya: We're we're the k we're s we're still going. So funny. Iconic. So iconic. The Drama Drop: and owning your own business. Love it. Yes. Well, perfect. Thank Maya: Chic as fuck. The Drama Drop: you so much for playing my game. Maya: Thank you for having me. The Drama Drop: thank you again so much for coming on. It was so fun talking with you. I'm so excited to see what you have coming up. Keep seeing you on our screens, whether it's phones, TV, wherever. I just know that this isn't the end of you being all over the place. So tell everybody where they can follow you, even your Maya: Yeah. The Drama Drop: business account. Let everybody know. Feel free, go ahead, plug it. Maya: Yeah, yeah, so my personal on Instagram and TikTok is Maya Avery23. Shoot me a follow. And The Drama Drop: Mm-hmm. Maya: my business account is Influence by Ma on Instagram. We are currently working on our TikTok, but so it is hard. It's hard. I have a lot going on, man. So The Drama Drop: TikTok's hard. It's hard. Yeah. There is. All right. Well, thank you so much, Maya. It was so fun talking with you. Maya: Thank you. So great speaking with you too. The Drama Drop: Thank you. Thanks for listening to the drama drop, you guys. Subscribe wherever you listen to your podcasts and follow at the dot drama dot drop on all socials. And I'll see you in the next episode because somebody has to talk about it. Love you guys.