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The Judge Returns (RHOC Reunion Part 1) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod, which Teddy Mellencamp and camera
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  Speaker 1: judge to get through Fury Union. We needed a drink.
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  Speaker 2: Well I can't drink, guys. Oh well, well it's probalypos.
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  Speaker 2: It's just clear, although it was a clear liquid, right yeah.
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  Speaker 1: True. Well, guys, I guess we already got started for
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  Speaker 1: a second. But here we are another episode of two
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  Speaker 1: teas in a pod and a sea, but this time
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  Speaker 1: it's all three of us.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I'm so excited to be back. It seems
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  Speaker 2: like it's been forever. I am so glad that OC
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  Speaker 2: is over with. I appreciate you feeling in for me.
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  Speaker 2: You did an amazing job. Even though I didn't listen.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, I just didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I know that, Teddy, I know that you guys were
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  Speaker 2: doing your job. So I'm like, I'm diving it myself,
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  Speaker 2: all ruffled up because I wanted to hear it.
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  Speaker 1: But I saw.
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  Speaker 2: Clips and heard from my assistant and all that that
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  Speaker 2: you did an amazing job.
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  Speaker 3: I get it. I get it, and I've had I've
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  Speaker 3: enjoyed doing this. You know, it was fun watching you
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  Speaker 3: guys this season, and you know, I thought was a
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  Speaker 3: great season.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. Thank you. Well, I'm just so glad you
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  Speaker 1: decided to grace this with your presence right during the reunion,
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  Speaker 1: because that seemed effortless for you. Oh yeah, the.
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  Speaker 2: Last month has been effortless, forming the worst month of
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  Speaker 2: my life.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So first and foremost, Tamra just got out of
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  Speaker 1: the hospital. How are you feeling? What's the update? Are
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  Speaker 1: you on ozempic?
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not on ozempic Nope. So basically what happened
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  Speaker 2: about three I can't even remember. I've lost track of time.
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  Speaker 2: Three to four weeks ago, I got severely sick in Scotland,
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  Speaker 2: severely sick. I'm like, this is how I'm dying. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not dying because the trader is going to kill me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm dying because.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sick.
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  Speaker 2: And so I went through that. I rallied, I had
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  Speaker 2: some days off, I rallied and went through with it.
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  Speaker 2: I started getting these intestinal issues. Originally it was upper respiratory,
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  Speaker 2: lost my voice, couldn't felt hard to breathe. I thought
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  Speaker 2: I was ended up in a respirator. Then it went
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  Speaker 2: to intestinal pain. I finished, came home and the pain
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  Speaker 2: didn't go away, and it kept getting worse and worse
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  Speaker 2: and then finally Eddy goes on Sunday. It was all
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  Speaker 2: day on Sunday, doubled over pain between my rips. You
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  Speaker 2: need to go to the hospital. Now, I have a
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  Speaker 2: history of intestinal issues. I had a major emergency surgery
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  Speaker 2: ten plus years ago. Well, evidently that surgery left me
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  Speaker 2: with a ton of scar tissue and that's what's causing
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  Speaker 2: my intestinal obstructions.
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  Speaker 1: So did the surgery that you recently had, did that
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  Speaker 1: help matters or did it make things worse?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think, well, it took out a lot of that.
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  Speaker 2: So the surgery I had last December was reconstructive surgery
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  Speaker 2: from the surgery had ten plus years ago. He removed
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the scar tissue. Removed the scar because
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  Speaker 2: it was split right down my stomach, went right through
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  Speaker 2: my belly button. My belly button was pretty much sewn up.
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  Speaker 2: And he also found another hernia which was the size
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  Speaker 2: of a quarter, so he sewed that up, which eventually
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  Speaker 2: my intestines would have went through that and I would
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  Speaker 2: they would have been strangled, and then I'd be in
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  Speaker 2: the emergency surgery all over again. So fast forward to now,
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  Speaker 2: this is an issue that I'm going to be having
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  Speaker 2: the rest of my life. So there's scar tissue in
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  Speaker 2: my intestines. The first time I had surgery, part of
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  Speaker 2: my testines were dying. They had to and there was
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  Speaker 2: a tear in it so they had to repair it.
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  Speaker 2: So all that when you have abominal surgery, it causes
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  Speaker 2: scar tissue.
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  Speaker 3: So it started with a hernia.
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  Speaker 1: It started.
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  Speaker 2: It started with a hernia that would hiatal hernia that
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  Speaker 2: I did not take care of, didn't know I had.
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  Speaker 2: I was having some issues, but I went in for
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  Speaker 2: multiple cat scans, ultra sounds. They couldn't find it at
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  Speaker 2: the time.
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  Speaker 1: Mind, is that stomach pain or like, what are the symptoms?
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  Speaker 2: That is like severe pain between your your breastbone and
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  Speaker 2: it feels like oh myr like yep, feels like heartburn
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  Speaker 2: and digestion all that kind of stuff, but it's unbearable,
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  Speaker 2: like you're doubled over. You feel like you're gonna throw up.
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  Speaker 2: My intestines grew through that attached itself to the fat
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  Speaker 2: the fashion on my stomach and they were being strangled
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  Speaker 2: and they turned black. Oh god, yeah, so it it
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  Speaker 2: was a whole thing. And so now this is something
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to deal with this time that I
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  Speaker 2: went in it was a partial obstruction. Thank god. They
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  Speaker 2: were able to put a tube down my nose into
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  Speaker 2: my intestines and they were twenty four hours, actually thirty
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  Speaker 2: six hours. They were sucking everything out. It wasn't fun,
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  Speaker 2: but it worked. If it didn't work, then I would
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  Speaker 2: have to go in and have surgery.
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  Speaker 1: And do they think that they're there? Is it just
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  Speaker 1: because of this has been going on for years or
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  Speaker 1: do you think it was some sort of medication that
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  Speaker 1: you had to take for when you were sick when
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  Speaker 1: you're in Scotland or is it food related?
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  Speaker 2: It's it's scar tissue related. So it's all scar tissue yeap,
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. But you got out without any surgery.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're drinking clear liquids. Yeah, I'm on a special
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  Speaker 2: diet for two weeks. I got to reevaluate my diet
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  Speaker 2: in general, Like I have to stay away from like
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  Speaker 2: really dark, greeny, leafy stuff. There's a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: I have to stay with them.
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  Speaker 3: I have so many questions that I'm going to ask
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  Speaker 3: you off camera at some point, But thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I'm so glad that you're okay. I
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  Speaker 3: was so care on my feet. I was like wait,
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  Speaker 3: what's happening? And thank you for sharing with us because
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  Speaker 3: I always like to know, especially at this point, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, as we're getting older, like what is to everyone,
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  Speaker 3: and we have to be so careful and to stay
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  Speaker 3: educated on like things that could be small things that
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  Speaker 3: we think and they can you know, be in a
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  Speaker 3: situation like yours because I think I actually we may
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  Speaker 3: have a hernia that I have not had checked out.
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  Speaker 3: So this is definitely going to get.
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  Speaker 1: Into you have to.
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  Speaker 2: There's so many different types of hernias. There's you know,
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  Speaker 2: like in bilical hernias. This one was a hiatal hernia
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  Speaker 2: thing it's called so it's up higher on your stomach, okay,
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  Speaker 2: and if the and what happens is the hernia is
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  Speaker 2: going to get bigger and bigger and bigger, and then
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  Speaker 2: your intestines can grow through that hole and attached to
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  Speaker 2: the inside of your stomach wall, which is could be deadly.
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  Speaker 2: My grandmother died of intestinal issues. And I am most
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  Speaker 2: like my grandmother in every single way, look like her,
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  Speaker 2: act like her, everything, same size.
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  Speaker 1: So we would have loved your grandma. Yeah, she was.
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  Speaker 2: She was a spicy She was a spicy one.
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  Speaker 1: Before we even get into talking about this two part reunion, which, wow,
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  Speaker 1: where do you know? I let everybody know that you
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  Speaker 1: had said the way that Trace and megas was done
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  Speaker 1: prior is not something are comfortable doing? No? And where
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  Speaker 1: are you now? Well?
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  Speaker 2: I feel uncomfortable even talking about this because I when
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  Speaker 2: I got back, you know, when Shannon got her DUI
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  Speaker 2: I found out the day the day on air filming,
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  Speaker 2: the day I left for Scotland. So I had sent
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  Speaker 2: her a message, you know, and talked to her a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, but then I was gone and my phone
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  Speaker 2: was gone, so I didn't know what was going on,
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  Speaker 2: you know, from for three weeks. After thinking about it
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  Speaker 2: for a long time, I was thinking, like, this doesn't
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  Speaker 2: make any sense, Like how do we go on and
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  Speaker 2: do a show about pour some tequila on me? Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not an enabler. I personally take this very serious.
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  Speaker 1: I know because people are calling you guys the Trace enablers. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I have spoke my mind to them
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  Speaker 2: about it. They want to get on a conference call
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  Speaker 2: and discuss it. So I haven't gotten that far yet.
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  Speaker 1: So is Vicky pushing for it to happen as well?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Why doesn't she know that's going to look bad for Shannon.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's a good look, but I'm open
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  Speaker 2: to hear what they have to say.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what are your thoughts, Cynthia, Well, it.
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  Speaker 3: Was just heartbreaking to see what happened to Shannon. And
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  Speaker 3: you know one of the things.
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  Speaker 2: That wait, what happened to Shannon?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole thing with the d U. I think,
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  Speaker 3: you know, with her.
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  Speaker 1: Chammer's calling you out, like what Shannon did.
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  Speaker 2: It's not what happened to hers, what she did.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry, Well what she did? Okay, So it
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  Speaker 3: was heartbreaking to see Shannon go through what she went through.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, I think postponing it would be the best
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  Speaker 2: solution to this. I know that the one thing is
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  Speaker 2: is that we've I think we sold out five hundred seats,
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  Speaker 2: so that's an issue as well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think, do you want to care if
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  Speaker 1: Justin Bieber can reschedule a concert, the trace of Vegas
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  Speaker 1: can reschedule like.
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  Speaker 2: Well said, Well, I'm sorry, Well said.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, does it work if you take alcohol out
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  Speaker 3: of the equation. I mean, you guys could still have
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  Speaker 3: a good time.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, like I said, I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: see too much because we haven't you know. I voiced
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  Speaker 2: my opinion. They've heard my opinion, and we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get on a on a Zoom Collors or Commerce Color
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  Speaker 2: or something here and try to talk this through. So
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  Speaker 2: if you guys have any advice, send it my way.
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  Speaker 1: My advice would just be listen. There's nothing that you
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  Speaker 1: guys can say or do to change my mind. I
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  Speaker 1: understand why you want to do it, because when we're
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  Speaker 1: struggling sometimes we search to keep ourselves busy and do
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  Speaker 1: a million things to help fill that void. But all
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  Speaker 1: this is going to do is cause you more pain,
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  Speaker 1: and I can't be a part of it. I love you,
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  Speaker 1: but I can't do it.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, right now, my life has been so busy, and
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  Speaker 2: then I got home and I thought it was going
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  Speaker 2: to be simple. Then I end up in the hospital.
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  Speaker 2: Like I can only concentrate, like to Bravo con right now,
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  Speaker 2: like getting my hair done next week in Bravo Con.
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  Speaker 3: That's the only thing that I can healthier priority. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I mean period point, Bill, you just that that just
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  Speaker 3: is the priority right now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that that's exactly it. I'm I'm a yes person. Yes, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I'll do it. I'll do it, do it? And then
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  Speaker 2: I think, oh god, what I say yes? And now
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  Speaker 2: I've just learned, like I'm going to make myself the
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  Speaker 2: priority and I'm not going to do something I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to do.
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  Speaker 3: No is a beautiful word. I am a people pleaser
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  Speaker 3: and I say yes as well.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: I used to be a people pleaser, and no has
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  Speaker 3: been a very important word in my vocabulary for the
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  Speaker 3: last year.
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  Speaker 2: That is good to know. That's because Eddie's always saying,
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  Speaker 2: stop saying yes to everything.
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  Speaker 1: I say no to a lot of things you do.
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  Speaker 2: You're good about that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, now you can't do it, doesn't Yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: I've learned a little bit from you too, I mean
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  Speaker 1: you have your boundaries. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll do it.
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  Speaker 3: I'll do it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll do it. And then when I'm so overwhelmed, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I can't get mad of it anybody but myself.
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  Speaker 3: That's because okay, that's thenother important thing. Just even creating
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  Speaker 3: boundaries and saying no, like all of that stuff works.
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  Speaker 3: Is we like, you know, live our lives. It's just right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think also a common misconception because you're so
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  Speaker 1: tough on the show, like you you're so like in
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  Speaker 1: it that you actually are a big softy. So the
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  Speaker 1: second that somebody asks you to do something for them,
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  Speaker 1: for sure, you want to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Like if I want somebody I don't like, I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'll do it. Yeah, And what's wrong with me?
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  Speaker 1: But I think I think ultimately, whenever somebody's really pushing
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  Speaker 1: you to do something you don't want to do or
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  Speaker 1: you don't feel as right, there's an ulterior motive to
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  Speaker 1: it that's going to end up not only hurting them
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  Speaker 1: but hurting you. Yeah, And that's why I would just
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  Speaker 1: stick to this boundary. And I want you guys to succeed,
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  Speaker 1: like even me and Vicky stuff apart, Like I watching
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  Speaker 1: you guys go and do well is a win for
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  Speaker 1: me to watch that happen, And I just think it
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  Speaker 1: would backfire extremely.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm concerned with.
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  Speaker 1: One other thing I want to talk about when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to know prior to getting into this recap, is
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  Speaker 1: what is your thought processes on doing only fans with
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  Speaker 1: your daughter?
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  Speaker 2: That'd be a hard pass. No, you're not who in
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  Speaker 2: their right mind is going to do only fans and
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  Speaker 2: with their daughter their child? And what does that look like, well.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know you were in the hospital. But Denise
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  Speaker 1: Richards and her daughter posted a collab for OnlyFans and
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  Speaker 1: has anybody seen this it?
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  Speaker 2: What did they sucking each other's toes? Like, what the
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  Speaker 2: hell is going on?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, Cynthia. I want you to come in
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  Speaker 1: because I don't want to be like biased about this.
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  Speaker 1: But she posted asking if let me see exactly what
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  Speaker 1: she said. She posted asking if they should do another collab,
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  Speaker 1: which must mean there's an original one, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, and that's my question. What are
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  Speaker 1: people doing?
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  Speaker 2: Like when I think OnlyFans, I think it's like doing nasty,
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  Speaker 2: dirty things on only fans, right, So.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it has to be It could just
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  Speaker 1: be sexy photos.
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  Speaker 3: Surprisingly, they have actually reached out to me. Okay a
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  Speaker 3: few times me too. They reached out to me too,
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  Speaker 3: So I'm like, I don't know who was like causing
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  Speaker 3: the ability. I think she'd be great for only fans,
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  Speaker 3: but in any case, they what they told me was, hey,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you know you don't have to like be
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  Speaker 3: like doing like anything crazy or porn or lick at
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  Speaker 3: your toes or whatever. You could literally be making your
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  Speaker 3: you know, banging potato salad on here, like I know
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  Speaker 3: that they're trying.
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  Speaker 1: To do you use the word banging in kind of
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  Speaker 1: an awkward way.
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  Speaker 3: Well it's a fodas, okay. But anyway, so I don't
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  Speaker 3: know where it's at. I don't really follow only fans,
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  Speaker 3: but I do see a lot of different people doing it,
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  Speaker 3: and I love Denise. The only thing that concerns me,
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  Speaker 3: and this is me not knowing a lot of information,
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  Speaker 3: is the fact that you know it is anything sexual
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  Speaker 3: at all period, Like bringing the daughter into that just
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  Speaker 3: feels weird to me.
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  Speaker 1: But what about like if it's just them posing in
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  Speaker 1: the water and their bathing suits looking sexy. Does that
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  Speaker 1: feel weird to you that people are paying for not
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  Speaker 1: on the cover of like sports illustration.
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  Speaker 3: The peg is on only fans makes it a little weird.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think for sure, for sure, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean I think there's a tasteful way to do it.
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  Speaker 1: But I think if people are paying to see you
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  Speaker 1: and your daughter in that light, you know what their
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  Speaker 1: ultimate intention is, and that's not to like put you
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  Speaker 1: on a magazine cover and celebrate you in a positive way.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it all comes down to the context of
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  Speaker 2: the picture. If it's them making potato salad in the kitchen,
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  Speaker 2: go for it.
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  Speaker 3: But if it's essexual doing it in a swimsuit in
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  Speaker 3: the kitchen making potato salad, like, yes, just kidd.
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  Speaker 1: You know, no, no, what now we're topless in the
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  Speaker 1: kitchen making potato sees. Guys, this is actually we're not
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  Speaker 1: We're not hating on anyone at this moment. We're just
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  Speaker 1: announcing our first only fan shoe, which will be the
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  Speaker 1: three of us and bikinis making Cynthia's famous potatoes salad.
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  Speaker 1: It's seven dollars for the bundle and joint.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, can we make it a little bit more money
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  Speaker 2: than that? You make it fifteen so we each get
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  Speaker 2: five dollars each.
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  Speaker 1: Is that the math?
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm curious. I definitely want to I'm
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: curious to see what the bottles actually look like.
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  Speaker 1: Can you splurge, splurge, splurge on the seven bucks?
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  Speaker 3: Let us know well, you know, I'm technically unemployed right now.
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  Speaker 3: And it was like, I think you guys need to
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: order it and then let me know what and springs
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  Speaker 3: out the photos to me.
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  Speaker 1: Is good, I'm good, Okay, So we're now we're onto
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: the reunion and I call this reunion the Real Housewives
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  Speaker 1: of Orange County and IMAX because I was blown away, like,
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  Speaker 1: you look like I've never been to a movie theater before.
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  Speaker 1: But when I walked when I saw you guys walk
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  Speaker 1: in and they actually had the ocean, I was like, wow, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let's talk.
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  Speaker 3: About that for a minute.
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  Speaker 2: That's actually the new studios by Amazon. So they're virtual
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know exactly the name, but it's Amazon Virtual
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Stages and so it's a big round stage and we
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: had a set in the middle of sand, so the
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: set there wasn't much to the set, just sand and
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: a decking in our chairs, and then they flicked the
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: switch and it was like in real time. You it
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: was very distracting though you'd be sitting there talking you
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: see a bird flying over your head, you like, what
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: the hell is that?
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: But so cool.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: I suspect we're going to see more of those, because
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: it's I feel like it it's easier, it.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Looks really good. Is that at the same location that
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: we used to do the reunions and they just know.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: There's I think they're owned by Amazon.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, now, at this point, Tam, me and Cynthia are
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: going to talk and then you just chime in if
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: there's something we missed or if you're mad at us,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: or whatever it may be.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah for sure.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, so it starts off with Heather's as I love that.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at my rundown and like you're in every
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: single one of these paragraphs because truthfully, and this is
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: me saying, without you and without the dynamic between you
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: and Heather, I do not think this season exists. I
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: think we would have been back where we were in
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Orange County three years ago. Yeah, for sure, because as
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: messy as it was at times, you can see a
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: true authentic friendship there.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: And yeah, well I've always loved Heather and cared about Heather,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: and Heather is she has a good heart, she is
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: a nice person. Do we agree on everything, No, we don't.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: But we've have to cry at the end, Tam, I
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: started laughing when you did that about which part would
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I cry about?
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: When you were like, I just.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Really wanted to be close friends, and I was like,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I think because I get emotional because this whole season
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: has been pretty tough on me, So it was really
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: hard on me to be accused of bullying and going
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: after her and ganging up when that's not entirely true.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that makes sense. Well, Heather's asked about how
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: she feels about falling back into a friendship with Tamra.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: She says Tarmra said something unkind about her every episode.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Tamra says she came in not knowing where she stood
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: with Heather. On Heather's podcast, she said there's no place
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: for Tamara on the show anymore. Heather says she wasn't
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the one to say it and that she never told anything.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Andy confirms it. However, She also says she never uses
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: the word loser, and then we see her using it.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: But that's not what Andy and Heather said.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: What did they say?
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: So, her co host on the podcast had said there
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: was a whole conversation about me. This is before I
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: was even asked back to the show that if anybody
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: can come back, she wants Heather Alex Pelino to And
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: you know I wrote hard for her when she was gone.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I constantly did interviews, talk to Andy, bring her back,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: bring her back, we need her, and she didn't do
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: the same to me. And then she went on to
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: say there was no, or her co host that day.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: There's no place for Tamar on the show because she's
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: a blogger, which I'm not a blogger, remember if you
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: remember that? And Andy had said in to I can't
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: remember where he said it, but he said something on
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the terms that, well, you know, it might be hard
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: to bring Tamra back because she has a podcast based
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: around the show. You know, the show is that's why shows.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: So I had called him and I said, wait, did
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Heather tell you that because she said something similar to
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: that on her podcast And He's like no, no, no,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, done, left and alone.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I don't even know why it was brought up at
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the reunion. But then my question for you, Cynthia is
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: where do you think Heather and Tarma went wrong? As
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: a viewer. Do you think it was a power struggle
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: or do you think it was like past issues or
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: do you think Heather was so used to having everyone
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: kiss her ass and now Tarmra's coming in and everyone's
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: kissing her ass and she can't take it or what
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: is it?
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Well? I think you know, when you are not asked
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: to come back to the show, you know that's difficult
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: to go through that process is because it's almost like
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: mourning a part of your life that is no longer
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: there anymore. So when you do get an opportunity to
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: go back to the show, it's like you do feel
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: a little displaced and you got to and you know, like,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: obviously they're not asking you to come back to twitter
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: your thumbs. You got to come in somewhat hot because
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: if let you go, now you get an opportunity to
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: come back, So now you got to be like, you know,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: you got to come in hot basically if you want
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: to continue to be a part of the show.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when they let you go and then
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: bring you back, it's because haws, it didn't work when
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: you were gone.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true too. I would agree that you being
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: back on the show definitely was a huge part of
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: the season with that question, just even for the drama
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: and just all of it, Like you were like all
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: up in the mix, all up in the mixed. So anyway,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: I think that's that's hard. So I felt like tim
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Or you were like kind of came back a little like, well,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: first of all, you know, I know you don't show it,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: but I know your feelings were hurt and it like
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: I said that you didn't get to come back in
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: the first place. Now you're back. Now you got to
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: find your place and you got you also have to
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: come in hot, and you have to like prove that hey,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I'm an asset to the show. And then you got
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: to figure out how your friends are. You and Shannon,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: we're going through y'all stuff. So that was like real
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: because that feels like your real, real friend on the
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: show to me. And I felt like you had to
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: juggle with a lot, and then you were sharing about
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: your dog and the gem and it was just a
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: lot going on. I felt like just watching it, you
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: were a little defensive and just kind of like focused
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: on I'm gonna get my ass back on the show
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: and stay on your well you don't want to, and
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: you didn't really show balance of you going through all
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: that other stuff. I didn't really see play out on
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: the show. So I could be like, Okay, she's going
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: through stuff, but she hasked to like she most secured
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: this job that she wants back.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think coming back when it comes to
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Heather her doing her podcast in saying you know there's
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: no place for me, and then her she also said
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to I get it, she's trying to
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: stay relevant. I get it, she's trying to make a brand,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: which I've been on TV for many years. I already
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: have a brand. A lot of things were said, and
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I went back questioning like, is she really my friend?
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I was told by multiple cast members that when she
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: came back, she said a lot of negative things about me,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: So then of course I'm gonna question, like are we
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: not friends like we? I thought we were really good friends.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: So there was a lot of questions in my head,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: like who is she?
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: What does she? Does she not like me?
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Does she like me? And I just went back or whatever.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well to your point, Tam, because even thinking about
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: you know, someone I'm not on the show. So even when,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: like my castmates say, when people ask them, oh, who's
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: your ideal? You know six people that you would want
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: on a show like every time, and I'm not really
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: interested in being a part of the show. But it
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: still still feels nice to still be on the list
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: to me, Yeah, especially after eleven years of being on
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: the show, because you know, you know, they didn't keep
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: you on there all that time for nothing that you
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: contributed to the show.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: But it is, it is.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: It hurts your feelings.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: It's a flat on the face when they don't say how.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: In Howther's defense, we did have this conversation and she said,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: you know, me and Alexis are going through some similar
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: situations right now, and that's why she said her it
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: would be nice to have somebody that can relate to
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: what she's going through.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Well, I think I think in those situations what I
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: do because people people always ask me like, who do
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: you think you know? When I was on the show,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: who do you think you come back? Who do you think?
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I hate that question.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: I hate it so much. I always look at it like,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: even if I'm not friends with you on the show,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I know this is your job. I don't want to
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: be the cause of anyone losing her job. Like I
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: was like, you guys don't right for the show anymore. Fine,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: But I would never open up my mouth and say
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like this one should come back, and
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: that when she come back and this one didn't bring anything.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I would never never do that, and I always don't
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: like it when I see other people do it, because.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think this is a good this is
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: a good point, which brings me to listen. I think
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: that Heather had an excellent reunion. I thought she I
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: thought she was well spoken, I thought she was funny.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I thought she had some good comments. I loved the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: dynamic between her and camera. I loved that she riled
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Emily up and Emily was like lost or cool. Like
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: all the things as the viewer were great, But the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: one thing that really resonated with me was all of
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: the side conversation about the things that Heather said. Sounds
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: to me like she thinks she's producing the show, and
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: that's what bothered me, Like all the things that all
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: the women actually seem upset about, which like even the
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: comment between Emily and Gina shouldn't be so close or
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: this person or I can't do the show with this
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: loser or whatever it is. Like it seems to me
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: she's trying to do all of these things off camera
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: to try to make the show better. But like, you
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: don't have a producer credit and it's not your place
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: to coach the other women on how to be better housewives,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: and that's not going to be received well if you've
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: actually been on the show. And I personally have been
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: coached on how to be a better housewife and you see, oh,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: well that turned out right.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, like with all the stuff that
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: happens off the camera and then what happens on the camera.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: This is why I love breaking the fourth wall. I
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: just think it's so necessary because there's so much stuff
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: that can't be explained if it didn't happen off camera
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: unless you unless you break the fourth wall. So I
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: just felt like watching Heather like we've all been there.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: You know how many side conversations I've had with cast
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: members about like other cast members, like as soon as
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: we start filming, the phone starts ringing, honey, how it happened?
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: What do you think about this? I heard this, bring
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: this up on camera. I'm gonna go here, I'm gonna
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: go there. Like it's just the way the show works.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: It's the nature of the business.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Totally one. But I think if you get hawk ye
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: than that are hell to the fire. You know, that
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: is when you just have to just take on the
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: shit and be like, look, you know what, I was
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: talking to all kinds of shit about this girl off camera.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: She's not my kind of girl or whatever, because the
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: reality is, you know, there are organic relationships that happen
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: on the show. But for the most part, a lot
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: of you guys, I'll put together, I don't know that happened.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: The people I was on the show with, I would
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: have organically been friends with them, had enough been on
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: the show with them. So it's what it is. So
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: with that said, I think that once it just seemed
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: like hew, they just kept you know, because she was like, oh,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I said it, but that wasn't my attention or I didn't.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: I didn't mean to said that.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Web.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like, Okay, been there, done it, get it,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: but you still except on it. Look, I said it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: It was horrible.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: I said it. I take it back, I'm sorry, and
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: just move on instead of all this, well you know
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: this then and the other. I think at some point
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: you's got to be like I got caught. Let me
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: just go ahead and.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like we everybody talked about. And also it goes
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: like this, you may talk shit about somebody six months
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: ago and then your relationship has totally changed and now
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: they're one of your close friends. That when you have that,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I do believe that there is like a sisterhood. Yeah,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: this like it doesn't matter how much time has passed
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: like even today, I sent Durit a text message. I'm like,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I need to know for Bravo con if this is
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: actually your list of people you chose as DUI's sheakhest Housewives,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: cause I'm I'm I'm really I'm really.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Really confused on this one.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: And she responded back in like three minutes. You know,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: like there's always that comment like commonality where like they're
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: you're always going to have that relationship. But let's let's
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: let's move on to how Bryan was invited to the
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: reunion to come share his side of the story but decline.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Jen says that if Ryan were there to defend himself
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: to Tamra, he would just come across as an asshole.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Tamra says things shifted when Ryan cheated on Gins. Jen
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: calls Tamera a piece of ship friend. Tamra said, you're
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: a piece of shit, you cheater. And then do we
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: think Ryan should have come on and had a conversation
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: with Tamra at the reunion or not?
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, you guys got to know we made
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: up at the season finale. We were good, Everything was fine, okay,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: So if he would have come on and explained himself.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I had no intentions of attacking him or questioning him.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I said what I said. What I said was one
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: hundred percent the truth, one hundred percent.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Why would Ryan come on to the reunion when he
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: can just comment continuously post the reunion on Instagram for
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: present engagement, and go on all these podcasts and try
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: to paint everybody in a certain light because the way
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: that I felt watching the reunion, and granted I still
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: don't one hundred percent get why any of y'all care
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: that Ryan's a cheater and Jens choosing to be with him,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: because I think that's on her.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I would care if your husband was cheating on you
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: or Cynthia's husband was cheating on him on her, like
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: if you're constantly cheating, Like would you guys want me
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: to just go, oh, okay, that's good, But you wouldn't be.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Mad at me for it?
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Would I wasn't mad at her for him cheating on her.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. I was mad because of the lies. She
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: knew exactly what went down. We had conversations about what
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: went down. My advice to her when she joined the
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: show was there's a lot of stuff out there. Be honest,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: and then Emily and Gina started bringing up her cheating
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: on her husband. I never brought that up. That never
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: came out of my mouth. That was Emily and Gina
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: and I set her down on camera. They didn't show it,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: and I said, this is before the cup Fitness probably said,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: my advice to you is to be honest, because if
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: you're gonna lie and say it didn't happen and make
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: up all these lives we've seen Star her story changes constantly,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: you're gonna look like you're gonna look bad.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Just own it.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: But the problem is she ends up looking good because
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: it looks like all of you guys are invested.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know that everybody believes her story.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think anyone believes her story, but I
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: do think that because of the fact that it looks
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: like everybody's so invested and.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: She should be thanking us, she actually had a season.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Well, but my question is, you guys are all on.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: You're on her ass about not being one hundred percent
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: authentic about her relationship with Ryan. That being said, I
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: just have to ask. I know it was touched on
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: at the Union, but I need more information. Why weren't
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: you on Shannon's ass about John Jansen.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I think what happened was is when I came back
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: to the show, I had not been around John and
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Shannon for two and a half years. I did not
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: know what the state of their relationship was at that time,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: and so when you see me, they do a flashback,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: which was a very unfair flashback was I was not
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: talking to the women of about her relationship. I was
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: as before me and Shannon even made up. I was
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: talking to Eddie two and a half years ago. The
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: relationship was not doing well. There was a lot of
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: fighting going on.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: She did not open up to me. She told me
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: why we were filming, that everything was good. I went
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: to one dinner, two dinners with them as a couple.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: They seemed in love. He talked about wanting to get married.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: That's all I had to go on.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Well, it seemed like for us, like watching the show,
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: it seemed like number one, like they kept, you know,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: telling us that you and Jen were friends. But it
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: felt like on one hand, you were coming out of
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: concern about her relationship, and then it felt like you
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: just wouldn't let it go, and then it turned in
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: like it felt like you were angry at her. And
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: one of the things I always ask my friends in relationships,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: you know, hey, if I see your man doing something
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: inappropriate or something and looks inappropriate, or I see him
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: with another woman and it feels like it doesn't feel right,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: are you the kind of friend? Do you want me
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: to tell you? And I always ask that question because hey,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: number one, everyone doesn't want to know everyone to keep
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: really good point, I'm the kind of person tell me,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: tell me even think, and I will deal with it.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: And I'm not going to throw you under the bus.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take the information and do what i
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: need to do with it.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: So what if they tell you yes, I want you to.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Tell me yes. And then when you tell then when
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: they when you tell them, they go after you as
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: a liar, Well then that's not right. It's okay, Well
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: they're my prop That's exactly what happened.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I think also, I was talking to Emily about this,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: and I hope I'm not throwing you under the bus, Emily,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: but I was asking, truthfully, like, explain to me what
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: this obsession is between Ryan and Jen and all of it.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm just I don't I don't care like, I,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: as an outsider, I don't care what he's doing. She
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: wants to pretend it's not happening. No skin off anybody
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: else's They're not hurting you guys. And she said, I
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: think the problem is that he had never even met
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: her mother or anything until they started filming, and everybody
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: felt like this new found serious love towards her is
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: directly correlated to the filming schedule. Yep. And so I
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: think that's what's not being shown. And so because we're
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: not seeing that, we're not getting it, like we're assuming
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: people have embarrass people cheat, people like she Jen said
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: she didn't sleep in the same room with her husband
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: for two years. You know what, if I didn't sleep
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: in the same bed as my husband for two years,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I probably would leave him as well. And I don't
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: know who i'd leave him for. That being said, when
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: you add the level of fame to a relationship at
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the beginning of it, when it starts out toxic, it's
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: not great.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: No, But I love loved because I wanted Gen to
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: say this all season. I love that she finally was like,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: if this is my shit, Sam whatever, she said, let
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: me eat it, And I was like, please, and at
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: a side of fries and watch it down with a
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: gender like I honestly feel like once, as her friend, Tim,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: your only job to meet was to give her this
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: information coming from your heart, and what she decided to
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: do with it was on her and it just felt like,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know, they just didn't show a lot of it,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: the other ladies bringing it up time after time. It
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: just felt like you were really on her ass about
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: it a lot on the season that I want.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know, and I regret it it. You know,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: it took me back to a time in our friendship,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: like when you talk about anger like I was mad.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I was mad.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I was totally mad. We had a friendship because she
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: came to my gym.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: If you think she came to your gym because she
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: wanted to meet you because you were on the show.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I liked Jen on the show. I actually liked
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: this entire cast.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: To be honest.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this show is great.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: I mean I feel like she was a good fit
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: in a way because she wasn't a good fit and
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: it kind of made her a good Yeah.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: No, I think she's I think she's great for the
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: show now. So back then she came because I did
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: a fitness competition. She wanted to do one, so we
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: trained her. I got to know her through the gym,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: and then we went like we hung out a few times,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: like we got closed. She came over to my mom's
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: seventieth birthday in October with her husband, you know, but
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: there was some issues after the Ryan stuff started, and
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: there was some old on.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I have a question. Sorry, I have to interrupt. Why
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: were you on a trip with Ryan and Cabo? Yea,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: So we were.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: So Ryan was going to our gym. We had no
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: idea that he was fooling around with Jen at this so.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: They both were going.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: So mind you, Jen and her husband were just at
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: my house right seventieth birthday Okay, Okay, So.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: You and Jen were close when she was still with
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: our ex, not when she got with Ryan.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: When she got with Ryan, things went sideways. Okay, ok
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: That's what happened, and then we didn't we we didn't.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: There was no big blow up. There was a lot
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: of I'm so sorry, Tamer that happened at your gym. Like,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of that going on, but I
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: had to put some distance. He was going to Cabo
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: and he had some Heather was going. Another one of
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: his friends was going, and he said to Eddie, Hey,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: you want to go to Cabo. He had this free
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: private jet that was going out there. It wasn't his,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: it was going out there to pick somebody up, you know.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: And we flew commercial home and Eddie's like, I don't.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Know, you know.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: And Eddie had broke his arm. He was in a cast.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: It was, you know, a year or two into the pandemic,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: and Jen is not there. Jen is not there, No,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: and so we Eddie decides it was he decided. He's like, yeah,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: we'll go. And I'm like, really, because I thought for
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: a million years he'd say no because we didn't really
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: know him that well. Very superficial. So we go and
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: we're sitting out by the pool.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Had you been fired yet? Yeah?
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I was during the pandemic. Yeah, I was on the show.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: So he sat at the end of his chair and
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: he started crying and he said, there's something I have
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: to tell you, And I said what. He's like, I've
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: been having an affair with Jennifer and I always called
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: her Gen, so I didn't know who was talking about.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I go who, He goes Jennifer PACHANKI, I go, she's married.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, her husband found us, you know, I go,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: just Will know. Yeah, her husband found us in the
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: car talking. And you never said that they had sex
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: in the car. She said that, which is very telling.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: She said that I never said they were having sex
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: in my car. This is I'm just repeating what Ryan said.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: He found us in the car.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: She said.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: At one point he was giving me. Yes, Will did
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: find us in the car. He was giving Ryan was
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: giving me a gift, is what she said. If you
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: go back to another episode. And at that point, Eddie
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: and I went up to our room, I go, do
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: not post any pictures, because if Will knows, and Will
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: knows that we are with Ryan, this just looks.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Bad for us. This all makes a lot of more sense. Yeah,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: so I thought you guys were friends with Ryan and Jen,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: and then you found out about Ryan and Jen with
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: him cheating on her with whoever. No, and that's why
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: you were this upset.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that you know we were best
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: friends with Will. No, we weren't best friends with Will
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: our Jen.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: It was like, hey, we're having a party, you want
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: to come over. Trained Will had sent me a message
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: after her fitness competition, which she won. She crushed it.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: She did an amazing job. She put the work in
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: and he said, thank you so much for being a
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: good friend to Jen. I'm like, yeah, no problem, Like
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: it was, that's all.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: It was like you guys, now you and you has
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: friends or not.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, we ended the reunion and you know,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: if you watch the peacock version and very so much
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: better guys at the end of it, and I've just
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: sent this clip, I you know, sit there and I
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: talk to her and I tell her, you know, I
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: hope we can move forward. Let's go to dinner, you know.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Evidently in a message on social media, she put on
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: that I was crying. She told one of my cast members,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I was hysterically crying, saying I was sorry, I wanted
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: to fix this. Never happened. That never hapt crying.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: That you were never hysterically crying. But they did show
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: you when you guys, which I actually hate, and all reunions,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry I do when they ask everybody like their
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: favorite part of what they're looking forward to the most
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: about next year? Right? Could she potentially be talking about
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: the point when you start kind of like cheering up
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: and you're saying you're looking forward to building a better.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, she said. At the end of the reunion,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I came up to her and I know what she's
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: talking about. We were outside. They showed it on the
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Peacock version. I invited her to dinner. I said, I
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: hope that we can put this past us. But she
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: went out there and made this whole, you know, exaggerated story,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: and it's wish. She does a lot, So I tried
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: my best. I reached out to her after the reunion.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: We had a couple of little small talks and I said, hey, listen,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: my glam team is setting up a room at Bravocan.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: You know, do you want to get in on this.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: You have used both of them or one of them before, Like,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: is this something you want to do? And I never
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: heard back from her. And then shortly after that I
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: went to Film Traders and then I got home to
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: a total shit storm where they were both going after me,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: my husband, my son, like all this stuff, and I'm like,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: this is the reamin hadn't even aired. This was like
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: they started this after the season finale where we were
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: good at the season finale.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I think she's leading the charge.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I hope it's him not her.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: What do you think, Cynthia, I mean, I don't know, Jim.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: From what I saw from the show, she didn't seem
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: she seemed kind of passive to me. I just don't
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: see her like all of a sudden kicking into like
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: this whole.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Like you know, yeah, this personally like this.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: And as far as her like coming onto the show.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: When braun Win was cast on the show, they you know,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: they often do like if you own a business, is
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: there any girls at your business that you think would
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: be good for the show. So this was five years,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know how many years ago. So I had
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: given her name along with I think Tatiana's name, who
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: hangs out with Gina all the time, and a few
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: other girls, And so they interviewed her and she didn't
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: make it. Then you know, I got a text message
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: from her and we we weren't, like I said, there
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: was no huge blow up. We didn't hate each other.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: We just kind of grown apart and I didn't really
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: want to be around that whole ship storm that she
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: was going through.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: And she was had a relationship like t him when
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: you were off the show. Well, no, Jin just got
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: on the show. But were you and Jin still friends
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: like when you were off and she wasn't even on
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: the show, Like what is that like? What was that like?
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Oh prior like the year prior to her getting Yeah,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: when we were not that close at that point. She
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: was not coming to the gym.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I hadn't.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: I mean it'd probably been much since I had seen her.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: We I think there was like a farewell dinner for
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: one of our our members at our gym, and she
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: showed up and I hadn't seen her for a long time. Hey,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: how you doing whatever? And it was very superficial and.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: You guys were growing a friendship this It wasn't like
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: you guys were these best of friends and.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, we were better friends before when she
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: was married.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: So so basically she had texted me. I remember I
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: was sitting in the parking lot dropped my daughter off
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: at work one day and she said, Hey, can you
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: call me? The producers have reached out to me. And
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I had been reached out at that point as well,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: and so she called me and I said, so what's
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: going on. She's like, yeah, they reached out they you know,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: they want me to try out for the show. And
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, cool like that do you want to do?
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Do it?
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Like I'm not going to stop you. And I said, well,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: you know Eddie knows Ryan, and you know you've worked
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: out at my gym. So there is some you know,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: natural organic friendship there, if you want to call it that.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: And so that was it.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: That's the conversation. And then she would call me randomly
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: and say have you heard anything? Have you heard anything?
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, I haven't heard anything. So it
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: wasn't me trying to get her on the show. I
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: wasn't calling production going you have to get this girl
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: on the show and nothing like that. I didn't even
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know if I was coming back.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Right right right.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Well. One of one of my favorite parts is when
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: you said one of my favorite lines, which is when
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: you say Texas.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: And texts text. I was like, that's my girl, Tam.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: She's like, I selling the Texas. I was like, damn,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: we have talked about it. It is texts.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I don't think that I normally say that an everyday
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: thing because you you always say it Texas.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: You'll say like text like it's texts. Yeah, no, you
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: said Texas, And I was like, oh my gosh, but
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I start I realized, well, you.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Know, I don't really know the English language. Though that's
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: not no big.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Well me neither. But as we conclude episode one of this,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: what do we think there's anything else? Like we definitely,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I mean there was a lot of Ryan and Jen stuff.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like we got to just keep it moving
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to go backwards on this, like I
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: haven't said anything I haven't said on the show already.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I know that he's attacking me Eddie and doing all
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: this stuff. I'm not going to even comment on that, Like,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: let him do his thing. He had his opportunity to
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: come to the reunion.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Well how did you feel when Andy brings up how
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: you said that Heather has not worked since the late
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds, and then Heather says to you, can you
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: imagine if I said to you, only nine years at
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: the gym, it's not equinox, how much money did you lose?
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Like you handled it way better than I for sure
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: would have, Like, don't you think Cynthia?
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Like I was like, like, first of all, first of all,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: the whole thing about the nineteen hundreds was twisted to
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: the point of no return that never happened. Did I say,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: did I say nine hundreds? I did, but I didn't
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: say in that context basically was happening.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: It's like Texas, Yeah, it was, No, it was.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: It was one of these things where Taylor wanted me
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: to pull it up and so because her scream was broken,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: so I'm like here, and it was never done in
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: like a malicious way on my part, and there was
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: so much conversation that wasn't aired. She did all these
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: and I thought it was impressive. I didn't think that
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: it was belittling her career whatsoever. So when I said
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: nineteen nine nine, ninety ninety eight, ninety seven, ninety eight,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: and I said nineteen hundreds, at one point didn't even
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: know I said it, did not even know I said
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: it until the producer told me. And so then it
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: was like we started laughing because I said it not
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: at her career, but the fact that I said it,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: that was it. Yeah, it was barely It was really
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: hard for me to explain that without breaking the fourth
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: wall or you know what I mean.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: On the show.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they definitely made it in a moment that was
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: bigger than probably what it was.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: It was a moment that wasn't a moment.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but last it took close out episode one.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: At last year's reunion, Shannon told Gina that she would
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: never bring up the dui ever again. Shannon says she
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: does not remember bringing it up. She was drunk and
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: mad at Gina. Gina asked Shannon what her children's names are.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Shannon says Sianna and can't remember the others. Gina says,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: you've known me for six years and you don't even
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: know their names. Gina says that Shannon is worried about
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: everyone else talking about her own relationships, so she decided
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: to make things up about her children. Slash cps. Should
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Shannon be able to name all of Gina's kids and
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: is blaming alcohol a poor way out of apologizing.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Listen, Gina has been on the show for five years.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I've met her kids once, maybe twice. I don't have
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: little kids, so it's not like you know Emily where
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: their kids will pare?
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, tamer what are my kids' names?
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Let me think now? Hold on cruise slid duff Bella.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, I don't have one what's my daughter's name?
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Noela?
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Noela.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's one of those sorry loser Noel.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: And it's one of those things like, you know, if
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: you're not hanging out with those kids and you're not
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: around them all the time, and if you don't have
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: a good memory, like I could see her not knowing
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: and then being put on the spot.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Do you think Shannon knows your kids names?
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I would hope, so, I would hope.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: So how many kids does Gina have?
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Three?
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: She has three small kids.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: They're all small kids. But you know, in Shannon's defense,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: like she probably would have said it to me, I
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: would probably would have clammed up because I don't know
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: her children like that. Yeah, but also I I don't know,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I felt like at this point, but it was a
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: good move on Gena's part. It was an excellent Gina
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: must have been starving because she freaking ate Shannon up a. Yeah,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: that was a great move on the chess board for
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: her because yeah, it was my chest mate. I mean,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Andy's face said it all.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and that's kind of where I don't know,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: but we've all been to a place like I know
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I have. I've seen Tam or do it. I don't
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: know if you have, Cynthia, but at some point we've
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: blamed alcohol for our behavior. But when it becomes a
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: repetitive excuse, yeah, that's where it becomes a problem. Like
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I still remember in Provence when I was a complete
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: asshole and said shit about Erica and the next day
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I said to her, like, holy shit, I drank so much.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember last night. No one will even
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: tell me what I said, but I know I hurt
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: your feelings.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: But like if I said that, every week, yeah, you
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: basically get like two drinking passes per season, and then
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: after that they paint you to be an alcoholic pretty much.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: If you're going to it, that's our show.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I think episode one was super juicy.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I appreciated everybody's effort. I also just had one final question.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Why was Heather allowed to wear black?
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: It's funny because when she she wears black any chance
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: she can, it's her color. But when she walked out,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Andy goes Heather black like that, like really, so what
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: she wanted to wear and she.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Got to wear it? Well, I do know that, like
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: when it comes to these things, you send pictures in advance.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: It's not like it's just willing Milly.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Like you're you're saying, but if you want to be
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: forceful and say this what I'm wearing, they're they're gonna
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: say okay.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: In a shocking turn of events, I never did that.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, she looked great. I thought it was a
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: beautiful dress. Yeah, it totally f fit the beach vibe.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: So no, she looked amazing.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: No, everybody. I thought everybody looked beautiful. Yeah I didn't
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: look great.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: I didn't love Jen and Gina's dress that I didn't
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: like their dresses that much, but I thought they looked great.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: But apes are hard to pull off in general, especially
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: if you're my height. M Okay, but I did.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying this stammer because on this podcast
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: with you thought you looked really great. I thought it
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: looked amazing, and I definitely thought I thought Emily looked great.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she looks really good.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: And Shannon's look surprised me, but I was fine with Like,
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: I just I don't know what I was expecting.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: From her, but I was like, oh, who Shannon Jane.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: No, Shannon Eric Jane, I get it. I get it. Yeah,
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: this is fine.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, she took a chance. You know, that's
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: what fashion is all about, right, I love it. It
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: probably wasn't the best, but it wasn't the worst.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: It was like the one time I took a chance
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: and wore a red lip. I still regret it to
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: this day. All Right.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I've taken lots of chances, and.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: Don't don't start pulling on my reunion pictures. I mean,
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: I got it right a lot, but one or two
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: times I got it wrong are the ones.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know why it's so difficult. It's like when
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: you're told you have like three weeks to find this
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: dress in a certain color. It's like, you know, we frantic,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: and then we'd start looking and it's like, oh my god,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: I can't find it.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Can't find it. Plus there's only like six places all
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: of us shop from it. And then you wear it
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: and then you're like, oh, somebody else has already done.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Then you submit it and they're like, no, somebody else
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: already submitted that dress off or Revolve.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: And then the worst when you try to get something
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: custom and it just looks a hot miss.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I will never do that, never in my life. I'm
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: not tall, so there's no need for customs.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: I've seen some beds.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, be back to drop the episode
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: for episode two of Real Housewives of Orange County Reunion