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F1 2025 Monaco GP Recap & Spanish GP Preview - Fast Laps with the Boys · Banter with the Boys

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  Get laced up. Let's go! It's time for Banter
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  with the Boys. Yo, yo, welcome back to Banter
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  with the Boys. Fast one. Yo, yo, what's up? Laps.
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  That's a lot of energy right now. Joe is ready
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  to go. What's going on, Joe? This was the most
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  exciting Monaco Grand Prix we've had ever. Bar
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  was in high. Yeah, not really. And it also wasn't
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  even that exciting. I mean, hey, it was better
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  than last year. I'll take that, right? I think
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  that's more than enough to be excited for. Smelty,
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  I'm here. You're here. Yes, yes, you're here,
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  Joe. You guys remember, did you guys watch SpongeBob
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  growing up? I watched so much SpongeBob growing
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  up. I'm a loser. You did not? No, I didn't like
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  SpongeBob. Joe, do you know the episode? Well,
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  there was multiple of where they were like, floor
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  it? That's what you just did. You came in here
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  flooring it. So I'm excited about that. But yeah,
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  I'm here too. That's cool. Mike. Hello. I made
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  it again. I'm still here. He beat the system
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  today. Your system was going to mess you up at
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  work. Not even the system can hold me down. It's
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  true. What? I don't know. What's going on? I
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  was going to come off that. Wait a minute. Never
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  mind. We need to move on. We got Kevin, though.
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  Shout out, Kevin. Oh, my God. Anyway, yeah, let's
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  bleep out everything I just said right there.
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  That'd be awesome. Anyway, let's head into the
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  Monaco GP recap. Okay, yes. Pre -race banter,
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  like it says here in our thing. Sprint quality
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  practice, yada, yada. Joe, FP. What happened,
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  guys? Quali. Impeding. We got crashes. There's
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  penalties. Impeding is a common theme at Monaco.
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  It was like the most common theme. Whether it's
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  practice, quali, or the GP, one could argue like
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  a certain team that has four cars on the grid.
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  I mean only two cars on the grid. i will say
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  and i want to do want to talk to that because
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  that's i was thinking about it and we didn't
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  we actually didn't see it happen this this weekend
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  which is nice but still thought i would mention
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  something just in case i want to go off on a
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  tangent but yeah lots of impeding and everyone
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  complaining about it a couple of penalties for
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  it charles actually crashed into stroll because
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  stroll cut into him i just didn't think he He
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  probably didn't think he was on a fast lap or
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  didn't seem common or something. I don't know,
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  but he got a grid place penalty for it. Hamilton
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  hit the swimming poorly hard one flying up at
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  one point. Hadjar had clipped the wall, completely
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  lost his back left tire, brought out the red
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  flag. Oscar crashed at turn one during free practice.
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  It was a very clean crash. Nothing broke, it
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  seemed like. It just kind of went into the barriers
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  a little bit. And then Behrman with a 10 -second
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  grid place penalty for speeding under red flag.
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  Brutal. Or overtaking under red flag. Overtaking,
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  yeah. Basics, obviously. Oh, yeah, and then Lewis
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  crashing an FP3 as well. That happened. Yep.
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  Yeah, I heard about the 10 -place grid penalty
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  for Oliver. I was like, it's over. Yeah. It's
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  like, we're done. It's so over. It's so over.
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  I was like, so that's his race. Yeah, at least
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  you have a little bit more to look forward to.
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  I mean, at least Ocon was having a good day.
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  He did. Good weekend, actually. Good weekend.
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  Ocon is actually really good at Monaco. And he's
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  starting to get more consistent. I beg your unbelievable
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  pardon. He is. He has a podium. Last year, Ocon.
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  was not good at Monaco. Okay, fair. He had a
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  bad race. What's your point? He had a lot of
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  bad races last year. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm
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  sorry. I'm sorry. I just disagree. I'm just saying,
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  look through his statistics. He's very typically
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  in the points. He tends to race well. He tends
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  to out -drive his car in Monaco. Yeah, it helps
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  when he has... teammate that's not as competitive
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  as him. I guess Behrman's competitive, it's just
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  not as fast as him at the moment. He said that
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  when his last teammate was Pierre Gasly. You're
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  just going to let him slander your driver like
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  that? I'm saying Pierre Gasly was competitive.
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  Behrman isn't as competitive as Pierre Gasly
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  right now. I didn't mean Behrman to catch strays
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  because I like Behrman more than I like him.
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  I think I should just stop talking. Sometimes
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  you've got to put the shovel down. Honestly,
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  I just want to stop digging. Qualify. Should
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  we just get it out of the way? What happened
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  to Mercedes this weekend? I mean, Russell's car
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  just broke, and Antonelli just wasn't there,
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  unfortunately. Well, there was moments, at least
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  in the GP, not to dip into that a little bit,
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  but there was moments where Mercedes looked okay,
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  and it was mostly after he blew the corner past
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  Alba. Yeah. And then he looked okay after that.
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  But, like, it's not like the car looked that
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  bad. It just couldn't. I don't know. I don't
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  know. It definitely couldn't handle the dirty
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  air in the race until he got past Albon, but
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  I don't know. Bad weekend. I heard people talking
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  about the fact that Mercedes brought an upgrade
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  package, not to Monaco, but to... I've been blanking
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  on what came before that. Imola? Imola, yeah.
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  They brought an upgrade package to Imola, and
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  it just hasn't been working. Yep. So that could
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  be a large portion of it, too. They tried to
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  upgrade their car, and they accidentally nerfed
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  it. Well, and Monaco's going to exemplify anything
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  that's not working. Exactly. So that's not a
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  good look for Mercedes heading into a quicker
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  track, you know, with some high -speed corners.
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  But we'll see. Anyway. Anyway. Yeah, I mean,
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  I don't have anything to say at all, really,
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  about FP or quality, even though that's kind
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  of the main thing at Monaco. But, I mean, this
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  whole weekend in general, kind of disappointing.
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  You hear the drivers talk about it after the
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  race, too, just how kind of disappointed they
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  are in the racing. And, of course, George is
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  going to spout off because he had a bad weekend
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  all around. But maybe with the smaller cars.
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  Actually, let's hold talking because I do have
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  something I want to bring up later that we can
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  really dive into it. Let's get into the Grand
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  Prix. Starting and finishing, I did make just
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  a little color coding a little bit just to show
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  the movement in the top 10. Only movement is
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  Alonzo's Gone. from top 10. Hajar did lose a
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  place. Most unlucky driver of the season. Yeah,
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  exactly. At this point, for sure. Hajar did lose
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  a place to Hamilton. But besides that, signs
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  promoted into the top 10 and everyone else is
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  the same. Really no other movement. And I think
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  Hajar was overtaken off of a pit stop and not
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  on track. Yeah. I mean... I mean, let's just
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  start it off with McClare and Norris getting
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  P1, PS3, P3. McClare trying to wiggle his way
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  in there, just couldn't get enough of it. But
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  interesting that Norris getting P1 because now
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  that pulls him within how many of the standings?
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  I was just about to pull it up. It's only – it's
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  not that many. No, definitely not that many.
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  So it kind of makes WGC a little bit more interesting.
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  I think you're right. It is three points. I thought
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  it was three points. Max is 22 points away from
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  Norris, which is still... The McLarens could
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  crash into each other. Should we also take a
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  look at what Constructors looks like right now?
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  Yeah, I can. Constructors, which is going to
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  be pretty similar, I would say... mclaren's obviously
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  going to be still dominating yeah 319 for mclaren
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  very whoa this is this is good very very close
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  to second third and fourth you know all within
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  four all within five points of each other yep
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  uh mercedes at 147 red bull at 143 and ferrari
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  at 142 yep all incredibly close so i think We're
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  still like, what, nine races in? Still more than
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  half of the season to go. McLaren's probably
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  got first locked up, but the fight for second...
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  I might go the rest of the season. Granted, I
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  think Leclerc is just... I want to talk about
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  McLaren, but just really quick. Leclerc is a
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  monster on this track. It's his home track. He
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  really showed it. This is the first time I really
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  felt like the Ferrari was in a league of its
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  own, almost. And the fact that... Norris got
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  that fastest lap was just because he didn't do
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  anything wrong. He just pushed to the limit.
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  It was the faster car. I think Leclerc was the
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  fastest driver, however, just plain and simple.
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  I'm hoping if Ferrari can keep that momentum
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  going, it should be a pretty fun race between
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  them and Mercedes and Max. Let's just touch on
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  Ferrari real quick since we've already started
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  talking about him. Yeah, Leclerc obviously winning
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  here last year and just, yeah, I mean, almost
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  pure domination throughout the weekend. Quali
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  for sure looked incredibly fast. But you say
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  here miserable race for Hamilton. Are you just
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  talking about, like? His words, I think. Honestly,
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  not a bad. I mean, good points for Hamilton.
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  Obviously, you want to be higher up, right? But,
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  like, he made positions, which is more than you
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  can ask for from Monaco. What was the? Real quick.
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  Hold on. Keep talking. I'm sorry. I didn't mean
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  to cut you off. No, you're good. You're good.
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  More than you can ask for Monaco. But I think
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  it's just still not where he wants to be, obviously.
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  And I think strategy, even though it wasn't bad
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  for Ferrari, I think it probably could have been
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  better in some areas. He did end the race a good
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  almost minute away from the top three. When did
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  Hamilton make his second pit stop? Hamilton?
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  I know that's literally putting you on the spot.
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  I have no idea. I'm just curious because Max
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  still finished another 30 seconds in front of
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  Hamilton, but I'm just curious at what point
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  this season if Ferrari starts gaining traction,
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  at what point this season does Hamilton have
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  to be beating Max Verstappen in a race? That's
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  a great question. It's interesting. Hamilton,
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  I think he had probably the freshest tires near
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  the end of the race. We pitted fairly late, obviously
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  not as late as Verstappen, but he was not catching
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  that top feel. I remember I was watching with
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  someone and he just kept questioning, why is
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  he not catching them? He's falling behind further
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  and further and he has no one in front of him.
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  I think we figured it's like maybe he was going
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  through a lot of back markers and that obviously
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  slows him down, but also maybe he was trying
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  to keep it safer and just didn't want to ruin
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  the position he had. Or maybe he was facing some
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  kind of weird issue. Who knows? It's still not
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  completely known, but I think he did pit fairly
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  late relative to everyone else, and he had fresher
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  tires. It just didn't really use them near the
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  end. Something to look out for, especially heading
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  into Barcelona, right? That's where we're going
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  next? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, Spain, yeah. Definitely
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  something to look out for. Leclerc, though, I
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  think, like I said, I think he was probably the
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  fastest driver, and it's good to see that, obviously,
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  he was very close to winning his home Grand Prix
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  two times in a row. He proved that last year
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  was not a fluke. He deserved it, and that the
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  years beforehand were just a weird curse, and
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  now it's broken, which is nice. Thank God. Honestly,
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  I wouldn't have been disappointed had he won.
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  Oh, me either. I wouldn't have been either. I'm
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  still happy that Verstappen got it. I was not
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  expecting him up there just because of the Ferrari's
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  pace. I didn't expect him to just have that dominance
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  at his home. But we've seen that before. We've
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  seen him qualify really well at Monaco even before
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  last year and just get caught out by something
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  bad happening. Should have known. I think Ferrari's
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  strategy, I know you were kind of banking on
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  that, messing with them. That was my entire...
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  I think Ferrari's strategy is getting better
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  over the years. Hit or miss. We've seen some
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  pretty bad strategies. Where did you see Ferraris
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  and Constructors? They are fourth still, but
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  they're only a point away from Red Bull. We still
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  could get our predictions of McLaren, Ferrari
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  1 -2 and Constructors. That would actually blow
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  my mind because we were pretty much writing Ferrari
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  off as not. You're going to sniff P2. Talking
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  about Mercedes might actually take it, but the
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  Max Bowls, as we call them, we're going to pretty
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  much run away with P2 at some point, and that
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  just hasn't happened yet. Even last week we were
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  spouting off about that. Just spouting off. You
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  know what's funny? I ran into this guy in the
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  Target parking lot. Sorry. No, you're good. And
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  he had an ATSV. Sorry, a Cadillac ATSV. And I
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  was like, oh, whoa, an ATSV. You usually don't
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  see ATSV. Okay, he had a Red Bull hat. We started
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  talking. Tell him about the podcast. I was like,
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  to be fair, we kind of dog on Red Bull, but he's
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  like, oh, man, oh, I don't think I could listen
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  to that. I was like, dang it. Here I am trying
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  to sell our podcast to people and then tell them
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  why not to listen to it. I think it's more reason
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  to listen to it. I almost like to have a Red
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  Bull fan on the pod. I would love that. A true
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  Red Bull fan on the pod would be outstanding.
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  Really fun banter too. Some interesting banter.
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  Especially with people like me. Notable Red Bull
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  hater. Can we safely watch an F1 race in person
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  together? Are you guys safe together to watch
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  a race in the same room together? I don't know.
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  Most of our views are pretty aligned, I would
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  say. I would say maybe one or two I don't agree
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  with. You and me might have some problems. Why?
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  Alpine's in the league of their own in a bad
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  way. We're just like, you doing good over there?
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  You've been real quiet. No. Let's talk about
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  Red Bull first. Let's do it. Scapegoat. Verstappen.
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  Max Verstappen. Actually, not that bad of a strategy,
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  to be honest with you. No, not at all. I don't
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  hate it. I mean, you're playing, you know, playing
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  essentially for that flag. Yeah. To try to just
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  kind of get the default. I mean, it was his only
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  strategy. There was nothing else he could do.
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  I mean, it's still very possible. You can see
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  that flag. Colapinto was still racing, so. That's
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  true. This guy. Oh, my God. We might have problems
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  at some point. At some point. I think we're okay
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  right now. We might have to throw hands. People
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  keep flapping gums. Yeah, so Mags, not bad strategy.
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  Like you said, kind of the only thing he could
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  do. Yuki, arguably bad. Kicking rocks here. Bad
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  start to his race. Somebody messed him up a little
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  bit. But could never really rebound, in my opinion.
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  Just, nah. couldn't couldn't find any pace i
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  mean stuck in that huge drs train and i think
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  he also got caught out by just a bad pit stop
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  strategy and so he just ended up further back
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  just because he was pretty close to 10th that's
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  at one point wasn't he i think so something he
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  ended up in 17th so he's in 13th at the moment
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  this is lap 59 at the moment that's i mean yeah
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  and there's gasly doing his thing i wonder if
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  he might not have had a pit stop yet then yeah
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  But anyway, Yuki, Red Bull, yep, happy to get
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  out of Monaco probably and move on. Yep. So let's
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  see. Can I just actually really quick? Okay.
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  No, go for it. I'm just kidding. Just want to
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  touch on McLaren really quick. I actually thought
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  it was a pretty shaky kind of race for both of
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  them. Lando had a really bad start and was very
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  lucky to keep his place. He locked up really
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  hard. He had a fairly flawless race after that.
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  It's not hard to when you're in first for most
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  of the time, but very shaky start. Being fairly
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  flawless race, your own words, and it still felt.
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  shaky is a good way to put it. Flawless, only
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  in that there was nothing you could... Unless
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  you just run it into a wall. And, like, I mean,
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  Leclerc was the fastest car, so no one's going
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  to really catch you, per se, unless you're getting
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  pushed back. But he defended off Leclerc pretty
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  well. And then Piastri, I mean, there were so
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  many clips of him, like... drifting through turn
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  one and hitting the wall a little bit. He was...
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  He nicked the wall that one time. Oscar said
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  himself that he felt like this was his worst
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  weekend in Monaco ever. He's like, I don't think
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  I've ever struggled this much in Monaco, and
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  that's on me. And he podiumed. While struggling.
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  My worst weekend. Gosh, that's so terrible. I
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  think it was nice seeing him though because obviously
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  if you're in that... But also, if you're, like,
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  in a McLaren or in a car that that's good and
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  you're getting third, sometimes you're still
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  disappointed, right? Because you could have done
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  better. He was, like, all things considered,
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  it was a good weekend. Yeah, right. And he wasn't,
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  like, he was being very humble about it. So,
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  yeah. Like that guy. That guy. Another guy that
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  we're liking. Racing Bulls. Hajar. Yeah. Hajar.
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  Dude's a beast. You were just saying before we
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  started, he's... really good yeah he's really
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  good i i remember hearing about him like halfway
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  through the season last season like there was
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  a lot of rumbles about this new up -and -comer
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  isaac hadjar and how you know he's gonna be the
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  one to take danny rick seat and stuff like that
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  and and i'm just like whatever He's just some
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  schmuck who's going to come in and, and Nick
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  DeVries his way to victory, except he'll be gone
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  in a year. Like, I don't care about Isaac. And
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  then I watched him in the first race and he crashes.
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  And I'm like, I'm like, see, this guy is not
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  that great. And then I see him like crying and
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  I'm like, okay, well maybe he's not a terrible
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  guy. And then the rest of the season, it's just
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  been constant. Like he's, he's said, I have something
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  to prove and I'm going to prove it. So. I was
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  going to make a quick argument for DeVries for
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  some reason. And then I forgot what series he's
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  racing in. He's in E right now. He's been all
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  over the place. I think he's struggling in E,
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  isn't he? In Monaco, he actually had a really
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  good race. I was just about to say, he actually
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  had a good day. Okay, we'll touch on the E stuff
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  when we talk about the car, which is after we're
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  done with this, probably. The teams, right? Oh,
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  yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, quick thoughts from the
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  boys. Yes. Okay, yeah. I got you. Yeah, no, I
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  see that. And I even read that beforehand. No
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  problem. Are we still talking about racing bulls?
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  Did you have another point? No, I mean, it's
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  great to see Lawson getting his first points,
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  too, like you stated here. I did not think it
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  was actually going to happen for a minute. I'm
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  sure he was. But he really played the team game.
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  He did. I'm sure he was. Which is annoying. We'll
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  touch on that. He qualified well, and I'm sure
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  he was like, thank God. I'm almost not quite
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  guaranteed, but best chance you can get for points
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  at that point. And then Hadjar. We just got to
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  keep watching him. I want to just bring this
• 20:06
  up really quick. I don't think we should spend
• 20:08
  a ton of time on it. Hadjar. I mean, both Racing
• 20:12
  Bulls beat out Yuki this weekend. Do we see a
• 20:16
  world in which Red Bull swaps Hajar in for Yuki
• 20:19
  this year? No. I have a follow -up question for
• 20:27
  you. There's going to be a team this season that
• 20:30
  swaps for a third driver in a seat. You don't
• 20:34
  think it's going to be Racing Bulls or Red Bull?
• 20:36
  It's them or Alpine. Okay. I mean, it could be
• 20:39
  Red Bull, but I think Isaac going into a Red
• 20:45
  Bull seat, it's more likely that Colapinto would
• 20:48
  be out in some, I can't remember the other schmuck
• 20:50
  that they might put in there. John Allen? No,
• 20:53
  it was that one guy's name I couldn't say. I
• 20:56
  thought it was something Allen. It's their reserve
• 20:58
  driver. Yep. So I'm inclined to agree with you
• 21:02
  both. I think hopefully at this point, Red Bull's
• 21:05
  like, it's not a driver issue. It's a car issue.
• 21:08
  Any person you put in this car is going to suffer
• 21:10
  to begin with. So just give Yuki as much time
• 21:12
  as he needs. And at some point, you need continuity.
• 21:14
  Yeah. You know, at some point. So my next question
• 21:17
  is, Hajar, next year, if Yuki cannot. perform
• 21:21
  maybe I don't think he starts so I know I know
• 21:25
  like Max has actually come out and has basically
• 21:28
  like vocally said like in interviews and whatnot
• 21:32
  saying yeah the problem isn't the other driver
• 21:37
  the problem is the car we need to fix the car
• 21:40
  and max has been pretty strict especially this
• 21:42
  season on red bull basically saying quit swapping
• 21:45
  the drivers you're not helping and i don't like
• 21:48
  the fact that i keep on having new teammates
• 21:50
  i don't like the fact that i've had four teammates
• 21:53
  in the last six months stop it And so maybe it
• 21:58
  shouldn't be so good. And so that's a good point.
• 22:01
  Easy. And so Red Bull is like, this is your fault.
• 22:03
  Red Bull is like, oh, if Max says it, we have
• 22:06
  to do it. So I think we'll see Yuki stick around
• 22:09
  because Red Bull's biggest concern is keeping
• 22:12
  Max happy. And Max is basically like, just leave
• 22:15
  Yuki. I want to hear your point, but I want to
• 22:18
  touch on something you just said. Yeah. Oh, you
• 22:22
  want to hear my point now? I thought you were
• 22:24
  going to touch on what he said right now. Oh,
• 22:25
  my bad. Dead airspace. No. Darn, what was I going
• 22:31
  to say? Oh, I just think for the start 26, right?
• 22:36
  I think you would want a veteran driver in the
• 22:38
  seat, whether that's Yuki or who else would there
• 22:40
  be? I mean, it's got to be Yuki, right? So that's
• 22:44
  who I'd like to see, if I'm a Red Bull fan, start
• 22:46
  in 2026, no matter what happens the rest of the
• 22:49
  season, unless dude can't finish in points. more
• 22:53
  than 50 % of the race is left, that would be
• 22:56
  a concern. Then at that point, now maybe I'd
• 22:59
  take a chance on Isaac if that's who does better,
• 23:02
  or does Lawson redeem himself now? I don't think
• 23:04
  so. Hadjar definitely has more pace. But if Lawson's
• 23:08
  going to play the team game and still play the
• 23:10
  political part of it, he can slot his name back
• 23:12
  in there. Why not? I don't think Red Bull's necessarily
• 23:16
  a team to like going... back to somebody they've
• 23:18
  already kicked out, Pierre Gasly. Never got another
• 23:21
  chance. Alex Albon. But Alex Albon never got
• 23:24
  another chance. Carlos Sainz. Actually, Carlos
• 23:27
  never went to Red Bull. He just never had the
• 23:29
  chance to begin with. That's what we wanted to
• 23:31
  see. I would love to see that. No, I'm just kidding.
• 23:37
  I was like, where is he going? No, nowhere. Yeah,
• 23:40
  anyway, what was your point that you were going
• 23:41
  to play off of? I don't know if this is more
• 23:43
  of a question. I just want to get reactions.
• 23:46
  Max is like, I don't want to race F1 anymore.
• 23:48
  I'm going to go do something else. I'm going
• 23:50
  to be a dad maybe for a year, and then I'm going
• 23:51
  to go race something else. Get a discipline.
• 23:54
  Does Red Bull just crumble? Yeah, 100%. Yeah.
• 23:57
  Yep. I mean, how interesting is that? Because
• 23:59
  you mentioned, like, oh, Max said this, so we
• 24:02
  should appease to him. How, honestly, how much
• 24:05
  is them as a whole team is, like, leaning on
• 24:07
  Max? Because, obviously, they're getting all
• 24:09
  of his points. They're getting all of their points
• 24:11
  from him. Yep. So, like, how much of, like, an
• 24:14
  anchor is he to the team right now? 70 % or better.
• 24:17
  Yeah. I mean, isn't that, like, it's not a thought
• 24:19
  that I think I've had where it's like, oh, my
• 24:20
  God, Max leaves. This is the first year that
• 24:23
  I thought Max leaves. Red Bull's not a competing
• 24:26
  team anymore. I'm trying to think of realistic
• 24:28
  drivers they could go try and buy, right? Like
• 24:31
  realistically, drivers that would leave their
• 24:33
  current team to go to a Red Bull car that's not
• 24:35
  necessarily awesome right now. I'm trying to
• 24:37
  think of realistic drivers. If you say Mick Schuvach,
• 24:39
  I'm going to lose my mind. I have something crazier
• 24:41
  to say. Okay, but just like drivers that they
• 24:44
  could buy off their current teams in a way or
• 24:46
  make a deal. Pierre Gasly, Carlos Sainz. Is that
• 24:50
  worth it to them? I don't think so. Fernando
• 24:52
  Alonso. They should not be hedging bets and going
• 24:56
  off someone new. They need to go off someone
• 24:58
  who knows how to drive the car at least a little
• 25:00
  bit. So they bring back Checo. Dude, Checo's
• 25:03
  coming back to F1. I'm saying, I'm telling you,
• 25:09
  Checo will be back in an F1 car. Look at Yuki
• 25:12
  right now. Max is like, I don't want to race
• 25:14
  in F1 after this weekend for some reason. They're
• 25:16
  like, we should probably. He'll probably get
• 25:18
  Jacko back to finish the season. Oh, 100%. Okay,
• 25:20
  that? In that case? That's kind of, like, my
• 25:23
  thought, you know? Because who else would it
• 25:25
  be? Right, exactly. I just need to get, since
• 25:28
  we brought this up, and you brought up who could
• 25:30
  be in it, and it's a veteran, there's been a
• 25:32
  bunch of, like, people who are trying to, like,
• 25:34
  draw straws right now and be like, oh, my gosh,
• 25:36
  it's going to happen. There's been a bunch of,
• 25:37
  like, advertisements and stuff of Daniel Ricciardo
• 25:40
  being, like, and it's, like, something like a,
• 25:44
  like, pedal to the metal. It's just something
• 25:46
  generic. it's just something generic for F1 and
• 25:50
  so people are like is this maybe the hint that
• 25:53
  he's coming back Cadillac Cadillac he's going
• 25:57
  to Cadillac and I'm just like no I was on that
• 25:59
  train originally that it could be him and Checo
• 26:02
  at Cadillac but I still believe Trico. I think
• 26:06
  Danny Rick we'd see in an Indy car before we
• 26:08
  would see in an F1 car again. I think he'd do
• 26:11
  outstanding potentially in an Indy car, but you
• 26:14
  never know. Don't even know if he has any interest
• 26:16
  in it. But that was my tension. No. No. That
• 26:23
  was my tension. I hate that I'm seeing it. I'm
• 26:25
  just like, guys, just let the guy rest. I hope
• 26:27
  he's getting paid. Me too. And paid well. I hope
• 26:31
  he just becomes a farmer. Yeah. He looks like
• 26:34
  a farmer. I don't know. So, Williams next? I
• 26:38
  mean, yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah, why not? I think
• 26:40
  they're next, all right? I mean. Yes. Well, actually,
• 26:45
  technically, Haas is next. Oh, that's true. Haas
• 26:48
  is next. Ocon finishing seven. Ocon finishing
• 26:50
  seven. Puts Haas next. Yeah. Big W for me. We
• 26:55
  scored more points than Williams this weekend.
• 26:57
  You did, yeah. By one point. So, boy, we're really
• 27:01
  closing that 30 -point gap. Got to start somewhere.
• 27:05
  Got to start somewhere. We're happy with it.
• 27:07
  And considering that Ollie had a really tough
• 27:09
  weekend, we'll take a... We'll take a good finish
• 27:13
  from Esteban. He, as I established earlier, is
• 27:16
  pretty good on this track. He is pretty good
• 27:19
  on this track. I'm pretty satisfied. I don't
• 27:21
  expect to see the same performance from him next
• 27:23
  weekend. Oh, no. No, he got three more points.
• 27:26
  He was not. I thought, because if he would have
• 27:28
  left an eighth, he was an eighth for a while,
• 27:33
  and so he was only going to get four, but he
• 27:34
  got six points, so he got three more points than
• 27:36
  Williams did. So, 27 -point lead. Yeah, not bad.
• 27:42
  Not bad at all. So, yeah, all in all happy. Oliver,
• 27:46
  it's just a bad weekend. What will you do? It's
• 27:49
  Monaco. It's Monaco. It's Monaco. He's a rookie
• 27:52
  in Monaco. What do you expect? It's a Catalina
• 27:54
  wine mixer. Joe. Yeah? Williams. Oh, Williams.
• 27:59
  Yeah, a resident Williams. Now it's your turn.
• 28:01
  A resident Williams fan. Yeah, I'm definitely
• 28:03
  saying Williams like that. Probably Williams.
• 28:05
  Probably some of the most exciting part of the
• 28:07
  race is just, like, the strategy. Like, I never
• 28:09
  thought I would ever see, and this is the track
• 28:12
  to do it, I never thought I would see someone
• 28:13
  hold back cars, like, within 10 laps to the point
• 28:18
  of an entire pit stop. Like, that's crazy how
• 28:22
  slow they were going. I'll touch on that in quick
• 28:25
  thoughts from the boys. Oh, yeah. We have to
• 28:27
  talk. but like that's like that was like the
• 28:29
  strategy right and it was and it was I think
• 28:34
  I liked seeing it this one time. We're going
• 28:37
  to talk about this. I liked seeing it this one
• 28:39
  time. I don't think I'd like seeing that on a
• 28:41
  regular basis. We'll talk about it. You're going
• 28:44
  to see it on a regular basis. It was a good strategy,
• 28:46
  them getting their pit stops out of the way by
• 28:48
  building that gap. It was smart of them to do.
• 28:52
  This is the point I wanted to touch on earlier
• 28:53
  about the Racing Bulls and Max Bulls. I almost
• 28:57
  said Max Bulls because it's always Max Bulls
• 28:58
  on here. Racing Bulls and Red Bull and then Williams
• 29:01
  and Mercedes, they were blocking. mercedes so
• 29:03
  that's like their sister team right i mean mercedes
• 29:07
  had a really bad week on yeah but uh you mentioned
• 29:10
  racing bulls i forgot to mention i just funny
• 29:13
  to me because the two stops hadjar getting that
• 29:17
  pitting within five laps of his first stop blew
• 29:20
  my mind oh yeah yeah but i was like yeah that
• 29:23
  was honestly the best yeah that was the best
• 29:25
  thing to do i think yeah Just get your pin in
• 29:28
  as early as possible. Okay, yeah, yeah. No, we'll
• 29:30
  get into it later. Okay, let's just get through
• 29:32
  this here. Mercedes. Oh, God. Oh, yeah, Alpine's
• 29:37
  in there. Oh, yeah, thereafter. What am I talking
• 29:39
  about? I'm moving them up. Mercedes. Georgie
• 29:42
  finishing P11. Antonelli P18. So you wanted to
• 29:47
  mention something on the Gabriel, Bortoletto,
• 29:50
  and Antonelli thing? Oh, yeah. So, yeah, we were
• 29:54
  going to bring up the fact that, like, You guys
• 29:56
  had brought up, like, Kimi going on the inside
• 30:01
  and Bortoletto had made a comment saying he,
• 30:03
  like, pushed you out or pushed him out or whatever.
• 30:05
  And you guys were, like, scoffing at that earlier
• 30:07
  or something. Oh, scoff. Yes. And I was like,
• 30:10
  that was such a dumb move from Kimi. Like, full
• 30:15
  stop, the way that Kimi dive -bombed. He did
• 30:17
  dive -bomb that game. We've played Monaco on
• 30:19
  the game, right? When do you ever overtake in
• 30:22
  that corner ever? And my argument to it is the
• 30:26
  last time a driver tried to overtake in that
• 30:28
  corner was Pierre and Esteban. And how did that
• 30:31
  turn out? I mean. That was a tussle. That was
• 30:36
  different. Okay. Okay. Hear me out. I think it
• 30:40
  was an amazing move. The first move. I think
• 30:42
  Bortoletto should have pulled away. Because I
• 30:46
  think it was his corner. Kimmy's corner. At a
• 30:49
  point. Boy, it was close, though. I don't know.
• 30:53
  Bortoletto made a great move to get that position.
• 30:55
  An amazing move. What did Kimi do wrong? It was
• 30:57
  hard racing, but it was racing, right? What did
• 31:00
  Kimi do wrong? The move that Kimi made is a 50
• 31:04
  -50 crapshoot because one of two things happens.
• 31:06
  Either Kimi goes in and makes the corner because
• 31:10
  he dive bombs and forces Bortoletto to either
• 31:15
  basically stop because... They're at the exact
• 31:18
  same corner at the exact same time in a super
• 31:21
  slow corner, and he can't slow down and let...
• 31:24
  Let them move in together. Basically, Bartoletto
• 31:26
  would have had to stop or continue trying to
• 31:29
  go around, which is what he did, but couldn't
• 31:31
  make the full corner and ran into the wall. Funny
• 31:36
  enough, you could literally see him choose to
• 31:38
  run into the wall. To me, anyway, because he
• 31:41
  was right there with him. And then it was like
• 31:42
  either he wrecks Kimmy or he hits the wall. And
• 31:45
  it feels like, to me, it looked like he chose
• 31:46
  to hit the wall. And he probably did because
• 31:49
  if he tried to turn anymore, he was going to
• 31:51
  put his wheel into the wall and break an axe.
• 31:53
  Meanwhile, Kimmy got lucky that he didn't lock
• 31:57
  up. Because the way he came in, he took that
• 31:59
  corner way too sharp. On the inside of an already
• 32:03
  incredibly tight line. Way too much speed. With
• 32:06
  a lot of speed. And the fact that he didn't lock
• 32:08
  up was a miracle. Because if he did lock up,
• 32:10
  he also was going into the wall. And then Gabby
• 32:12
  would have had nowhere to go. Because there's
• 32:14
  somebody who's literally parked perpendicular
• 32:16
  in front of him. And then the two would have
• 32:18
  either crashed into each other. Or Gabby would
• 32:20
  have had to go into the wall as well. It's a
• 32:22
  great aggressive move though. At Monaco where
• 32:25
  it's like. It's a super fun move, but it's a
• 32:28
  super dumb move, and it's super amateurish. I
• 32:33
  saw that move, and my first reaction when I saw
• 32:36
  it is, what the hell are you doing? I'm like,
• 32:39
  there's no way you think that this ever is a
• 32:41
  good idea. Either you ruin your race or you ruin
• 32:44
  somebody else's race. I'm like, I just don't
• 32:47
  like that. I don't like that play. I don't like
• 32:49
  that choice. Fair enough. I feel like it's just
• 32:51
  too risky. And is just a rookie mistake that
• 32:56
  happens to work out. It's one of those, if it's
• 32:59
  dumb and it works, is it really dumb? And I think,
• 33:01
  yes, it is. You don't have a bad take. I think
• 33:07
  in general, you're right. It was a very risky
• 33:09
  move. I don't think I would ever call it a mistake.
• 33:12
  I think I would call it very aggressive. I still
• 33:15
  think. But Bortoletto could have done things
• 33:18
  to help his own case. Yes, he would have had
• 33:21
  to stop a lot. I don't think he would have had
• 33:23
  to full stop, but he would have had to stop a
• 33:24
  lot and try to get behind Antonelli and probably
• 33:27
  lose another place or get hit from behind. That's
• 33:30
  fair. Which then begs the question, he should
• 33:32
  have been defending to begin with then and not
• 33:35
  just assume everyone was going to line up behind
• 33:37
  him. He left a gap. right there wasn't much of
• 33:41
  a gap though but Antonelli didn't hit him that's
• 33:44
  true that's true like you look at it though that
• 33:46
  was in part because Gabby is like like getting
• 33:49
  out of the way almost to make sure that he doesn't
• 33:51
  crash with him like yeah I think I need to I'm
• 33:55
  I hear your take for sure I need to take it back
• 33:57
  to the tape I think to see if like because now
• 34:00
  I'm kind of maybe thinking maybe Antonelli Maybe
• 34:03
  if he were to keep on the line, maybe he had
• 34:06
  to break late. Maybe he did break late, and he
• 34:08
  would have just ran into Bortoletto if he didn't
• 34:10
  take that spot. I shouldn't say I refuse to believe
• 34:15
  it. I don't think it was a mistake. I think it
• 34:17
  was a... It was intentional, and it was definitely
• 34:20
  an aggressive and a risky move because it could
• 34:22
  have resulted in a crash for both of them, but
• 34:25
  Gabby had to pull out and hit the wall. And the
• 34:27
  whole reason that Kimmy went for the move was
• 34:29
  because literally two corners earlier, Gabby
• 34:32
  did something similar, but Gabby took the move
• 34:34
  because Kimmy started braking early, and Gabby
• 34:36
  saw that and came around the outside, reacted
• 34:39
  to the braking, came around the outside, and
• 34:41
  dived him on the inside. And that was a situation
• 34:44
  where I'm like, okay, that makes sense because
• 34:45
  Gabby saw the very clear line open up. and saw
• 34:49
  the gap there and so it was a very clean and
• 34:51
  easy overtake they came nowhere close to bumping
• 34:54
  each other just Kimmy left the door open and
• 34:57
  at that point Kimmy started charging on Gabby
• 34:59
  really hard and dive bombed him on the inside
• 35:01
  and Gabby had to avoid Kimmy to not crash and
• 35:06
  then wound up putting himself in the wall anyways
• 35:07
  so I I just I just I don't know. I think that
• 35:17
  there was a gap that was left open, and then
• 35:19
  Kimmy took it, and it was really, it was like,
• 35:21
  was it still lap one at that point? It was lap
• 35:23
  one. Yeah, it was crazy. The field is incredibly
• 35:25
  bunched up. If you're going to make moves, then's
• 35:28
  the time, because after lap one, you're not going
• 35:32
  to be that close. It is a tough part to make
• 35:34
  that move. Everyone's so bunched up. Yeah, I'm
• 35:38
  going to go back to the tape. I'm going to go
• 35:39
  back to the tape before we end the pod, and I'll
• 35:41
  give my final verdict on it. But as of right
• 35:44
  now, I'm kind of team Antonelli a little bit.
• 35:46
  I think Bordalito probably could have played
• 35:48
  it differently. I mean, if you go, if there's
• 35:52
  a race, are you really racing drive? You don't
• 35:54
  go for the gap. You know what I'm saying? Okay.
• 35:55
  Call me, you know what I'm saying? Oh my gosh.
• 35:58
  Anyway, we can move on. All right. Yeah. Moving
• 36:00
  on. Moving on. Alpine, I guess. Colapinto finishing
• 36:06
  P13. Whatever. Cool. Cool. Cool. I don't know.
• 36:12
  At least he showed. Whatever, dude. We'll look
• 36:16
  forward to next week. I'm actually looking forward
• 36:18
  to next week for Alpine as a whole, as a team.
• 36:21
  I think both drivers actually have a good opportunity
• 36:23
  in Barcelona. I think Gasly for points, Colapinto
• 36:27
  could be flirting with P10, 11, 12. So I'm going
• 36:31
  to write in there this week, I think. Anyway,
• 36:35
  Alpine does better in a little bit quicker track
• 36:39
  than Monaco. Ah, Kicksauber, yeah. We just talked
• 36:48
  about Gabriel a little bit. Hulkenberg, whatever,
• 36:53
  had a chance. I don't even remember seeing Hulkenberg
• 36:55
  at all on the broadcast. They showed him one
• 36:57
  time, and he was threatening an overtake, and
• 37:01
  he did not, I don't think. Right. Because I think
• 37:02
  Gabriel had the only overtake. Stroll had an
• 37:05
  overtake. Stroll had an overtake, yeah. Okay,
• 37:07
  okay. Didn't he last year, too? Man, it's crazy.
• 37:12
  That's our champion. Was that the year before?
• 37:15
  I remember Stroll bouncing off the wall. Oh,
• 37:19
  yes. No, Sergio was with K -Mag. Right? Sergio
• 37:25
  and K -Mag? What's the K -Mag one I'm thinking
• 37:27
  of? Oh, you're talking about the crash? Yeah.
• 37:30
  Oh, yeah. That was Checo and K -Mag. And then
• 37:33
  they hit Nico. Yeah. Let's see. Aston. Yeah.
• 37:39
  Alonzo had a pretty good calm. We'll let Joe
• 37:43
  get to that in a minute. But just a tough year
• 37:46
  for Alonzo as a whole. Probably the unluckiest
• 37:49
  driver on the grid at this point. Oh, yeah. There
• 37:52
  was a couple times where I thought somebody else
• 37:54
  might be in the running, but no, he's absolutely
• 37:56
  just sad to see. This has been his worst start
• 38:01
  to an F1 season ever. Yep. So that feels really
• 38:07
  bad for him. Not for lack of skill. Yeah, no.
• 38:10
  I mean, it's just been a super rough car, super
• 38:13
  rough year. Joe, calm call -outs. Yeah, before
• 38:17
  I get through, just in case you guys have any,
• 38:19
  did you have any guys anywhere you want to touch
• 38:21
  on? No. No? Okay. On Aston? Just any at all.
• 38:25
  No, oh, on calm call -outs? Yeah. No, I have
• 38:27
  a feeling the one that I was going to have is...
• 38:29
  On here. Okay. Go for it. Okay. Yeah. I mean,
• 38:32
  if you want to say it, then go for it. Less for
• 38:34
  me to say. Okay. Um, FP one, uh, Hamilton hits
• 38:37
  the curb on, on the, uh, the swimming pool and
• 38:39
  kind of went flying. The commentator said, uh,
• 38:42
  called it Hamilton airways. So I thought that
• 38:44
  was pretty funny. Um, lap 18, Alonzo. was told
• 38:49
  to push, he responds by yelling, I can't push
• 38:53
  now! He screamed that. He screamed that. The
• 38:58
  commentators were acting like, oh, he's not happy
• 39:01
  about that. I can't push now! Lap 33, Max, I
• 39:06
  don't know if he was prompted, he just says,
• 39:08
  my shifts feel like Monaco Grand Prix 1972. That
• 39:11
  was great. Lap 51, Russell, this is right after
• 39:16
  he decided to cut the track in front of albon
• 39:18
  after um albon had been you know breaking a lot
• 39:21
  um he says i'll take the penalty which then oh
• 39:25
  we didn't even talk about that i guess we'll
• 39:26
  get to it in a second we'll get to it in a second
• 39:28
  but like that's a huge thing we should talk about
• 39:30
  because uh kimmy did it too but then he gave
• 39:33
  it back yep and then oh in lap with hamilton
• 39:36
  this was a this was an interesting one too i
• 39:38
  think i have i just want to pull up the exact
• 39:42
  quote that he said um so he was given a just
• 39:45
  a slight debrief of the of the race like you
• 39:48
  know uh his his engineer said it's a p5 we lost
• 39:50
  a lot of time in traffic the rest of you need
• 39:51
  to investigate pick up rubber please um and then
• 39:54
  hamilton said big thank you to the boys as i
• 39:57
  said for fixing the car um he got no response
• 40:00
  from that and he said it's not been the easiest
• 40:02
  of weekends but he lived to fight another day
• 40:03
  so yeah radio silence and then he follows up
• 40:07
  with Are you upset with me or something? No response
• 40:11
  to that either. That's so funny. Since then,
• 40:14
  the sewer came and said that he's not upset.
• 40:17
  Everything's fine. It's all good. It is weird,
• 40:21
  though. They've had some interesting moments.
• 40:24
  Hamilton's actually not fine right now. Things
• 40:26
  are bad. It's not one I've heard before. Are
• 40:30
  you mad at me? That's hilarious. Crazy. Did you?
• 40:37
  Oh, you did put the link in there. That's hilarious.
• 40:39
  I love when you do that. Yes. All right. Quick
• 40:41
  thoughts. Quick thoughts from the boys. If this
• 40:45
  takes up more of the news time, that is fine.
• 40:47
  That's fine. A lot of the news is kind of BS
• 40:49
  anyway, so I'm happy if we skip some of this.
• 40:52
  So where were your bullet points for quick thoughts?
• 40:54
  Okay. The biggest thing I want to talk about.
• 40:57
  I just first just like. Thanks for being here.
• 41:00
  Thank you guys for being here. You're welcome.
• 41:03
  The changes made to this Monaco Grand Prix, the
• 41:07
  changes made to this Monaco Grand Prix, yay or
• 41:09
  nay, what you liked, what you didn't like, and
• 41:12
  then how we fix, how you would fix Monaco Grand
• 41:16
  Prix going forward, and then how you think, because
• 41:19
  we don't have any say. Is it going to be fixed
• 41:23
  next year? What should they do? Just in general,
• 41:26
  Monaco Grand Prix, I think, has a problem, right?
• 41:29
  I don't think it was fixed this year. I think
• 41:30
  it just illuminated other problems. So I want
• 41:33
  to just hear your guys' take about what had happened
• 41:38
  during this race about these new issues, the
• 41:40
  two -stop strategy, people building gaps, holding
• 41:43
  people back, the penalties that were given out
• 41:47
  because of people not following it, and then
• 41:49
  your, in general, take about how we fix it. monaco
• 41:52
  and what you hope to see in the future for monaco
• 41:55
  you go first i've got you want me to go first
• 41:59
  yeah you go first um i don't know the whole the
• 42:02
  two lap thing uh made it uh more fun question
• 42:07
  mark like you know it just wasn't i don't know
• 42:10
  it was cool to see different strategies but kind
• 42:13
  of along the lines of what you just said a little
• 42:15
  bit ago i'm good on it the one time But I don't
• 42:18
  think I would get enjoyment out of the forced
• 42:21
  two -stop next year. Sure. It doesn't solve the
• 42:25
  overtaking issue. Nope. And I think with the
• 42:29
  smaller cars, that could be a factor. I shared
• 42:33
  that video with you guys of the Formula E car.
• 42:35
  That pass was absolutely ridiculous. I think
• 42:45
  the smaller car will make a difference, but I
• 42:46
  think it'll make Monaco as a race extremely dangerous.
• 42:50
  And that's what I'm concerned about is trying
• 42:53
  to increase the overtaking at Monaco. Yes, for
• 42:55
  sure we want to see that. But man, it makes it
• 42:59
  a lot more dangerous for the drivers, I think,
• 43:02
  in my opinion. It's just so tight. But I've seen
• 43:05
  some things where people are saying along the
• 43:07
  ocean there's room. You can widen it there and
• 43:09
  make kind of like a DRS zone or a spot where,
• 43:12
  you know, a good passing opportunity. And you
• 43:15
  can see, you know, the reconstruction. It's like,
• 43:17
  meh, yeah. It would be something that I'd rather
• 43:22
  have that than do more stops, you know. George
• 43:25
  Russell actually said something, and I'll try
• 43:27
  to look that up while you say your thing. about
• 43:31
  a way that they could do it because of the whole
• 43:34
  impeding traffic thing. That's now a strategy
• 43:38
  as well, is trying to prevent other people. It's
• 43:42
  the fastest to go the slowest, you know what
• 43:44
  I mean, as a team. That was Williams' entire
• 43:48
  strategy. And I hate that. But the way it's set
• 43:51
  up, that's what you've got to do. And I don't
• 43:55
  like that. Formula One is the premier. Motorsport,
• 43:59
  arguably in the world, the most premier motorsport
• 44:01
  in the world. Why are we trying to go slow? You
• 44:05
  know what I mean? But again, I'm just contradicting
• 44:07
  myself, right? Because again, if we go faster,
• 44:10
  smaller cars, oh my gosh, what are we going to,
• 44:12
  what kind of garbage are we going to end up seeing
• 44:14
  with possible deaths? You know, now, Monica,
• 44:18
  I don't know. Yep. In a nutshell. I think one
• 44:22
  thing I'll take away from that is... You're crazy.
• 44:26
  Is that like, I think, I... I'm hoping the cars
• 44:30
  will help. I don't think they're going to make
• 44:31
  that much of a difference. They look drastically
• 44:34
  smaller. In terms of width, they seem only a
• 44:40
  tiny bit smaller, but length, they're cutting
• 44:42
  out a lot. That should definitely help a bit.
• 44:45
  I don't think it's going to fix the issue. I
• 44:47
  think it's the track that needs to be fixed.
• 44:49
  I think that's my major take. I can't remember
• 44:53
  the names of them. Are you along the fans of...
• 44:58
  Messing with the tunnel the exit of the tunnel.
• 45:00
  I think they should yeah get rid of that chicane
• 45:01
  I think that they should get rid of that chicane
• 45:03
  and make it another DRS zone and widen it if
• 45:06
  they can I guess They'd have to build out into
• 45:11
  the water. I think you could there. I think that
• 45:15
  that would be... Because I'm an engineer. Yeah.
• 45:18
  I think they also need enough room between the
• 45:22
  water and the track, so there's that too. Marshalls
• 45:26
  and also drowning. Whatever. Again, more death,
• 45:29
  speed, water, death. Sorry. Another thought I
• 45:34
  had is right now, Monaco is the one track that's
• 45:37
  like... This is the track where, like, unfortunately,
• 45:41
  actually, I'm about to contradict myself. Perfect.
• 45:45
  Quali is, like, incredibly important, right?
• 45:47
  Like, that is, like, the main part of Monaco,
• 45:50
  unfortunately. You qualify well, you're going
• 45:51
  to do well. Oh, that's what it was. Yeah. That's
• 45:54
  what George Russell said. Yeah, he said two qualifying
• 45:55
  sessions and just take points from that. Yeah.
• 45:57
  But I hate that. I hate it, too. But, like, at
• 46:00
  the same time, that's what we're watching already.
• 46:02
  That's what we're doing, yeah. Um, so, but like
• 46:05
  in the race itself, it becomes like, it's not
• 46:08
  a test of speed. It's a test of strategy and
• 46:11
  technicality. If you can ace those two things,
• 46:14
  you're going to, you're going to keep your qualifying
• 46:15
  position, which is like, that's boring for viewing
• 46:18
  experience. Yes. And no, arguably because strategy
• 46:21
  is awesome to have a crazy strategy and you have
• 46:24
  to beat another team strategy. Totally love it
• 46:26
  on every other track, but Monaco. Cause I don't
• 46:29
  like the strategy being slowed down. Yeah. I
• 46:33
  know you've actually pitched some of this stuff
• 46:35
  to me, so I'd love for you to bring it. You saw
• 46:37
  it with Lawson. He did it perfectly, though.
• 46:40
  Yeah. So first off, I didn't like this Monaco
• 46:44
  Grand Prix because I agree with you. We should
• 46:47
  not be slowing. The strategy should not be to
• 46:49
  slow everyone down. That is the antithesis of
• 46:52
  racing. I feel like if you were to go back in
• 46:55
  time and tell Senna that we're winning races
• 46:57
  by slowing down, he would slap you across the
• 46:59
  face and say, what's wrong with you? He'd say,
• 47:01
  that's not driving. That's not race. driving
• 47:03
  and that's just like you haven't been slapped
• 47:06
  in the face by someone uh you have never mind
• 47:09
  long story i bet you so we go way back that makes
• 47:12
  sense we go way back uh so yeah i think that
• 47:14
  that's a big problem i think we could still do
• 47:17
  the two -stop strategy we need to do something
• 47:18
  about stopping teams from from yeah stopping
• 47:22
  teams from impeding and slowing down the track
• 47:25
  I don't know how to do that. I don't know how
• 47:26
  plausible that is. So that's a big problem. Because
• 47:29
  if you just start throwing out penalties, now
• 47:31
  you're leaving it up to the stewards. Exactly.
• 47:33
  Nobody wants that. Nobody wants that. Then we're
• 47:35
  looking at Abu Dhabi 2021. Oh, the whore. So
• 47:39
  yeah, we don't want to do that. So I feel like
• 47:42
  we can't do too much renovating in Monaco because
• 47:46
  Monaco doesn't really want to do it. It's just...
• 47:50
  makes things harder for the people that live
• 47:51
  there as well. There's a lot of variables that
• 47:54
  go wrong with it. I know one thing that I did
• 47:57
  see, which I pitched to you the other day, is
• 48:00
  I saw a video online, my roommate sent it to
• 48:02
  me, about driving Monaco but in reverse. What
• 48:07
  if we drive Monaco in reverse? You drive Monaco
• 48:09
  in reverse, and now a lot of these slow speed
• 48:11
  corners become faster speed corners. Things like
• 48:14
  the tunnel is now a 180... mile per hour straight
• 48:19
  with a runoff at the end because if you think
• 48:22
  about that that corner there's a runoff on the
• 48:24
  left side there for no reason but if it's a straight
• 48:27
  now it's a runoff that if you are going to lock
• 48:29
  up or miss your corner you can just go into the
• 48:31
  runoff and then you can take that corner which
• 48:34
  is a high high breaking corner which is big for
• 48:37
  overtaking the moments because now you can effectively
• 48:40
  lunge a corner and overtake and uh now instead
• 48:43
  of the uphill that we have in corner or in turn
• 48:47
  one that takes us uphill now that's a downhill
• 48:49
  heavy braking section that that pit the pit exit
• 48:54
  that we have there we could take that out that
• 48:57
  that corner and open the corner up and make the
• 48:59
  corner more wide which makes for more overtaking
• 49:02
  opportunities Oh, this is interesting. You brought
• 49:07
  up when we talked about it that there are a couple
• 49:09
  of other corners that are problematic in the
• 49:12
  track, just like driving in reverse might be.
• 49:14
  I'm just going through the track in reverse right
• 49:17
  now because, of course, this is one of the few
• 49:19
  I do know. That first turn downhill, I think
• 49:22
  that could be a problem. It's a little spooky.
• 49:24
  If you can't brake, you're just going into the
• 49:27
  wall. I mean, they'd have to bake a runoff, and
• 49:29
  I just don't know if there's runoff room there.
• 49:31
  I don't know. And honestly, that exit out of
• 49:35
  that tunnel. Sorry, Kev. We got another one.
• 49:39
  That exit out of that tunnel is. Yeah. So, yeah,
• 49:44
  I think it's possible. Can you do that on the
• 49:45
  game? Do we know? You can't do it in the game.
• 49:48
  You can't in sim racing. And that's what I was
• 49:52
  hearing. Don't talk about modding the game on
• 49:53
  the mic show. What if EA hears you? We're going
• 49:57
  to ban you from the game that you're not going
• 49:59
  to buy. But if you want to know my real secret
• 50:00
  sauce for making Monaco better. It's called Go
• 50:05
  to Portugal Instead. Take us back to Portugal.
• 50:09
  I love that track. It's so cool. The nerdy part
• 50:13
  of me is like there's way too much history in
• 50:17
  Monaco. We just gotta figure it out. It's such
• 50:22
  a historic track. It's been around forever. It's
• 50:26
  boring. No one goes there for the race. It's
• 50:28
  a party, right? That's the glitz and glam of
• 50:30
  it. I don't even think Monaco has to pay for
• 50:33
  the race to be there. I think they get paid for
• 50:35
  the race to be there. That was disputed. That
• 50:37
  was a rumor that went around. Actually, I don't...
• 50:42
  The FIA came out, and they're like, they do pay.
• 50:44
  Now, there's a lot of talk that Monaco pays the
• 50:47
  least amount out of any track. Yes, I think that
• 50:49
  that's, yeah. And I think that that's accurate,
• 50:51
  is that they just pay the least amount, but they
• 50:53
  do still have to pay it. Yeah, so compared to,
• 50:55
  like, $50 million annually, Monaco pays around,
• 50:57
  like, $20. Yeah. And that's just because of their
• 50:59
  historic status, right? Exactly. I'm sure they're
• 51:02
  bringing more money in than that. Oh, hands down.
• 51:04
  Is that what we had for quick thoughts? Because
• 51:08
  we are running long. That's what we have for
• 51:12
  quick thoughts. I just want to talk about the
• 51:14
  state of Monaco. I agree with both of you. I
• 51:17
  honestly wish... You'd like to keep it on the
• 51:21
  schedule? No, but I understand why it won't go.
• 51:26
  Because it's so historic. You're about to say
• 51:28
  you'd rather keep Imola over... I'd rather keep
• 51:30
  Imola over Monaco for sure. Give me Portugal.
• 51:32
  That's a tough argument. I like Imola too. That's
• 51:34
  another historic one. They need to fix it somehow,
• 51:37
  right? Because it's just really bad. Hopefully,
• 51:39
  I'm hoping the cars will be enough. I don't think
• 51:40
  they will be. I agree. We'll see. We'll see.
• 51:44
  We'll see. We'll see if we race Monaco 26. We
• 51:47
  are. Yeah, for sure. Anyway, Kev, let's do a
• 51:51
  little quick little stroll here through the news.
• 52:18
  And with the news, Joe's got our first little
• 52:20
  tidbit. Yeah, so I think this was already announced
• 52:25
  before or during China. China, they did have...
• 52:30
  Get over there. Sorry, man. He's good. China,
• 52:36
  they brought stricter rules to their rear wing,
• 52:40
  and everyone was like, oh, this is going to break
• 52:42
  McLaren, and it didn't do anything to McLaren,
• 52:44
  and McLaren's fine. Spain, they are going to
• 52:48
  bring stricter rules for front wings now, which
• 52:52
  should help ease down on the flexi wings kind
• 52:55
  of. I guess, just set up that cars may have.
• 53:00
  I was looking into an article, and I think Fred
• 53:02
  Versoer was like, it's not going to be an immediate
• 53:04
  change, but in the grand scheme of things, it
• 53:06
  could probably shake things up a little bit.
• 53:09
  And then I just thought it was funny. Jules Verstappen
• 53:11
  came out and was like, yeah, this is exactly
• 53:13
  what we need to happen because McLaren is too
• 53:15
  fast. And it's like, okay, whatever. So I actually
• 53:19
  have an article pull up right here from the F1
• 53:22
  website. Good job. my sources. This is actually
• 53:27
  a statement from Andrea Stella saying the title
• 53:32
  of it is Rivals Distracted by Tex Saga's quote,
• 53:36
  good news for McLaren. And it basically just
• 53:39
  says that McLaren's Andrea Estella says it's
• 53:42
  good news for his team that Formula 1 rivals
• 53:45
  are focused on what he believes are incorrect
• 53:47
  reasons for why the Papaya Squad is dominating.
• 53:50
  That's so awesome. Basically, Andrea Estella
• 53:53
  is basically being like, guys, we don't care
• 53:55
  if you change our front wing. That's not why
• 53:57
  we're so good. Rebel starts sweating. Well, arguably,
• 54:02
  they already are sweating. Straight up. Thailand.
• 54:07
  Looking to enter F1. I think they said earliest
• 54:11
  that they would expect is 2028, but I don't mind
• 54:14
  another. Do they have to build a track or do
• 54:18
  they have one? I think they probably have to
• 54:22
  build one. A street race around the Thai capital.
• 54:25
  That would be sick. That would be actually Albon's
• 54:31
  home race because he's Thai. Albon? Albon is
• 54:36
  Thai. He treats the Singapore Grand Prix as his
• 54:41
  home race right now. Because it's so close to
• 54:43
  home for him, but he's not actually from Singapore.
• 54:48
  I'm just trying to see. He's Thai and British,
• 54:51
  I think. Half Thai, half British. I'm just trying
• 54:56
  to see if there is the track that they would
• 54:59
  look. They have hosted A MotoGP racing at the
• 55:05
  Berriam Circuit since 2018. I don't think they've
• 55:11
  noted if they're going to make a new one. You
• 55:13
  said MotoGP? I watched some of that this weekend.
• 55:16
  I forgot how wild that is. Island of Man and
• 55:20
  stuff like that. It's insane. I think MotoGP
• 55:24
  can race Formula 1 tracks. I think that's a possibility.
• 55:28
  I'm not 100 % sure. Should be more than enough
• 55:33
  time to... Well, yeah, they're breaking ground
• 55:35
  on... What track? Madrid? Yeah, they're breaking
• 55:39
  ground. They only just broke ground in Madrid,
• 55:40
  and they're adding that in, what, 2027? What
• 55:43
  was that other Saudi race? I thought Madrid starts
• 55:44
  next year. Oh, does it? Yeah, I thought I heard
• 55:47
  Madrid starts next year. Oh, okay. But yeah,
• 55:48
  either way, it's early, right? So, like, you
• 55:50
  know... What was that? What was that other Saudi
• 55:52
  race that we... Oh, it was the one that we thought
• 55:56
  might either replace Jetta or be in addition
• 55:59
  to. I can't remember what the name is. It's got
• 56:03
  the knife turn, they call it, or something. Anyway,
• 56:07
  all right. PepsiCo signing a multi -year deal.
• 56:12
  Massive. Yeah, we're going to get Dorito F1.
• 56:14
  It's going to be great. And Gatorade F1. Gatorade
• 56:17
  F1. And Sting Energy F1. And Sting Energy F1.
• 56:20
  I've never heard of Sting Energy F1. Yeah, I
• 56:23
  thought I saw that Gatorade is doing the sprints.
• 56:28
  Now it's going to be the F1 Gatorade sprints
• 56:30
  or whatever. I don't know what they're going
• 56:32
  to call them. Honestly, it makes more sense than
• 56:34
  having Heineken be a sponsor, right? They're
• 56:38
  very good about their 0 .0 kind of spot. It's
• 56:42
  going to be weird seeing Gatorade everywhere,
• 56:44
  though. Yeah, it'll be fine, I suppose. Yeah,
• 56:46
  I'm sure it'll be fine. It'll feel like the 90s.
• 56:50
  Slow news week. More money for F1. All right,
• 56:53
  cool. Okay, let's go. Yeah, let's head right
• 56:57
  into the Spain preview, Kev. Sorry. You caught
• 57:17
  me mid -cluck. That's embarrassing. Sorry. I
• 57:22
  won't let it happen again. I'm here to bring
• 57:24
  us up to speed for this year's Formula One Aramico.
• 57:30
  Aramco Grand Premio de España 2025. You guys
• 57:33
  are throwing off my ring. I know, dude. I'm sorry.
• 57:35
  Start over. Start over. I'm here to bring you
• 57:38
  up to speed for this year's Formula One Aramco
• 57:42
  Grand Premio de España 2025 at the Circuit de
• 57:45
  Barcelona Catalunya. Jeez. Put that on a t -shirt.
• 57:50
  The end there was a little bit of flavor for
• 57:52
  me. That's not part of the race name. Oh, yeah.
• 57:55
  Flavor. Okay. Thanks, guys. Joe's seasoning.
• 57:58
  Hey, thanks, guys. Put that on your steak and
• 58:00
  eat it. A fun fact per usual. I'm just kidding.
• 58:03
  I'm sorry. A fun fact per usual. Ferrari as a
• 58:07
  team holds the most wins here, with Alonzo and
• 58:09
  Hamilton tied for the most wins by any one driver.
• 58:12
  I don't think Alonzo's going to keep that. It
• 58:14
  says you. You haven't heard my podium. Last year,
• 58:19
  our starting grid was starting two, I should
• 58:23
  say, our starting two rows was Norris to Verstappen,
• 58:26
  Hamilton to Russell. Immediately off the line,
• 58:28
  Lando cuts across the track to try and cover
• 58:30
  off Max, almost pushing him off track and onto
• 58:32
  the grass. They stay side by side all the way
• 58:35
  to the first corner. Lando focuses on taking
• 58:37
  Max but doesn't see the Mercedes of George Russell
• 58:39
  quickly approaching behind. Able to take hold
• 58:41
  of his opportunity to fight between Lando and
• 58:43
  Verstappen and drive around. both of them through
• 58:46
  the first corner to take the lead. All the while,
• 58:49
  Lando loses his spot twice as Max takes the inside
• 58:52
  line and second place through the same corner.
• 58:55
  Such a good start. Just behind the Ferraris in
• 58:57
  third row, they take the fight to Hamilton and
• 59:02
  both go alongside through the first corner, but
• 59:04
  Hamilton shows off his veteran status and manages
• 59:06
  to keep ahead, falling in right behind Lando.
• 59:09
  Russell is only able to hold onto the first for
• 59:11
  the next two laps as Max takes his rightful position
• 59:13
  back. the same first corner. Around the same
• 59:16
  time, the pair of Ferraris battle through the
• 59:18
  first corner, getting close enough to rub wheels
• 59:20
  with each other as Sainz takes the position,
• 59:23
  falling off track, doing so, but able to keep
• 59:25
  the position ahead. Lap 16, we watch a nightmare
• 59:28
  pit stop from George, who locks up on the entrance
• 59:30
  of the pit lane and is then held in his pit box
• 59:32
  with issues from the back right tire. Pitting
• 59:35
  right behind, Leclerc puts in a normal pit stop
• 59:37
  for Ferrari, a banger compared to Russell's,
• 59:40
  and they go side by side through the pit lane
• 59:42
  to the end, Charles only just missing out in
• 59:44
  the overtaking. through the pits. Lap 19, Sainz
• 59:47
  gets into his second kerfuffle as he goes side
• 59:49
  by side with Hamilton through the first corner,
• 59:52
  touching wheels again as they make their way
• 59:54
  through the S's. A little debris coming from
• 59:57
  the contact, but Hamilton able to make the position
• 59:59
  stick. Instead of pitting earlier to fend off
• 1:00:01
  the likes of Russell, Lando has decided to stay
• 1:00:03
  out and go for Max. This did not prove fruitful
• 1:00:06
  when on lap 24, he finally does pit and comes
• 1:00:08
  out behind not just Max in second, but followed
• 1:00:11
  by George, but Hamilton and Sainz as well. A
• 1:00:14
  few laps later, Lando gets the fresher tires
• 1:00:17
  working, overtaking Sainz for fourth. The other
• 1:00:19
  McLaren of Piastre further down the grid finds
• 1:00:21
  Perez on lap 28 and overtakes him for ninth position.
• 1:00:24
  Still a couple cars ahead that haven't pit. He
• 1:00:27
  makes the move on Ocon in the Alpine a few laps
• 1:00:29
  later. We see another overtake from Lando into
• 1:00:32
  third on lap 32 on Hamilton, getting ever so
• 1:00:34
  closer to Russell in second, where he starts
• 1:00:36
  fighting him on lap 35. The battle through...
• 1:00:40
  Whoa, I'm sorry. Hold on. The battle through
• 1:00:42
  half of the lap, going side -by -side through
• 1:00:45
  the S's until Lando overtakes before the turn
• 1:00:47
  into the hairpin, where Russell takes the inside
• 1:00:50
  line and makes his way just slightly back ahead.
• 1:00:52
  The fighting continues through the lap, but now
• 1:00:55
  with Lando on the inside after the hairpin, as
• 1:00:57
  he makes the move stick up the hill just before
• 1:00:59
  the second DRS zone. The fighting, however, moves
• 1:01:02
  Lando further back from his battle with Verstappen
• 1:01:04
  and less than half a race distance to go. On
• 1:01:06
  lap 52, we get to watch a pair of Mercedes Ducats
• 1:01:09
  through the first few corners. Hamilton taking
• 1:01:11
  the final podium position from his teammate,
• 1:01:13
  George. 14 laps later, we watched Max Verstappen
• 1:01:17
  take the finish line two seconds ahead of Norris,
• 1:01:19
  17 seconds ahead of Hamilton in third. Our final
• 1:01:22
  10, Verstappen, Norris, Hamilton, Russell, Leclerc,
• 1:01:25
  Sainz, Piastri, Perez, Gasly, and Ocon. What
• 1:01:29
  was the final? Top three. Top three was Verstappen,
• 1:01:33
  Norris, and Hamilton. Hamilton. Lewis Hamilton.
• 1:01:38
  Max Verstappen wins the Grand Prix. Wild battles
• 1:01:43
  early. While you were doing that, we were watching
• 1:01:47
  the highlights, and it was following along. It
• 1:01:51
  was great. It was a really good overtake from
• 1:01:52
  George right at the start. Man, I watched it.
• 1:01:54
  I'm like, oh, that's so good. Incredible. What
• 1:01:57
  does he do again? Interesting weekend. Interesting
• 1:02:01
  weekend. I got a prediction that doesn't involve
• 1:02:03
  any podium points. Okay. Both Alpines will be
• 1:02:08
  in Q2. No problemo. And Gasly will get into Q1.
• 1:02:15
  Colbindle could flirt with it, but it's probably
• 1:02:16
  going to be... I'm sorry, Q3. Thank you. I mean,
• 1:02:20
  what you said was correct. Everyone's getting
• 1:02:22
  in Q1. What if he doesn't? What if he doesn't
• 1:02:24
  leave the garage? No, stop. Stop. That's not
• 1:02:27
  going to happen. That's not going to happen.
• 1:02:29
  But Colbindle could float. You ready for my counterpoint?
• 1:02:34
  Alonso gets his first points this weekend. God,
• 1:02:38
  you'd hope so. I mean, why not? He was fast before
• 1:02:42
  the failure. Yeah. And if his car starts on fire,
• 1:02:47
  then maybe he just takes the rest of the season
• 1:02:49
  off. Then it's just time to mail in the season,
• 1:02:53
  come back next year. Skip Drogovic the rest of
• 1:02:55
  the season. Just take some time to relax. Come
• 1:02:59
  back next year and do a new car. Does Mercedes
• 1:03:01
  rebound this week? Does Mercedes rebound and
• 1:03:04
  does George come back? Or does Ferrari... Oh,
• 1:03:07
  wait, no. I was about to say, does Ferrari keep
• 1:03:11
  the momentum and does Sainz get on the... But
• 1:03:13
  Sainz isn't on Ferrari anymore. Man, if Sainz
• 1:03:16
  was on the podium, it'd be crazy. I hope Sainz
• 1:03:19
  doesn't get points this week. Smack the microphone.
• 1:03:21
  So, predictions? Predictions. Point check -in.
• 1:03:27
  Mike got one point. Yes, sir. I got two points.
• 1:03:32
  Yes, sir. And Smeltsy with Charles out of nowhere
• 1:03:34
  once again, just like George Russell slips into
• 1:03:37
  the podium with three points. Three points. Bringing
• 1:03:40
  our total. Smeltsy at 21, me at 20, and Mike
• 1:03:44
  at 21. I think Mike should pick first this week.
• 1:03:48
  I believe. Yeah. I mean, how did we do this before?
• 1:03:50
  So you were leading. I've picked first so many
• 1:03:54
  times this year, so I think it's Mike's turn.
• 1:03:56
  Actually, you were leading. Yeah. No. Oh, he
• 1:03:59
  picked first last week? I have for the last two
• 1:04:01
  weeks. You were leading, and now you both are
• 1:04:03
  tied. Now we're both tied. So that would mean
• 1:04:05
  he's still leading. Oh, yes. I think you're right,
• 1:04:08
  because he was leading before. That's our four
• 1:04:10
  rules. No, that's fair. I'm still the winner.
• 1:04:15
  Sure. We're very close. We're all very close.
• 1:04:18
  This is crazy. What did you say? We're nine races
• 1:04:20
  in and we're within one point. This is better
• 1:04:22
  than I was doing last year. I'm happy. Joe and
• 1:04:25
  I were in a race for the bottom. Yeah, brother.
• 1:04:30
  Okay, so if I'm going first, I believe that in
• 1:04:34
  first place, Max Verstappen. I think in second
• 1:04:42
  place, I'm going to put Lando Norris. And in
• 1:04:49
  third, I'm going to put Oscar Piastri. Interesting.
• 1:05:01
  It is. Interesting. It is interesting. I agree.
• 1:05:05
  That's interesting. It is interesting. I agree.
• 1:05:07
  I think this is my first time in how long that
• 1:05:10
  I didn't put Oscar to win. What, three weeks?
• 1:05:15
  It's been a while. This is your first non -McLaren
• 1:05:19
  first place. Is it really? Yes. Oh, crazy. You
• 1:05:23
  only put Oscar Orlando. I'm consistent. I've
• 1:05:27
  also only put Oscar Orlando. At least I'm consistent.
• 1:05:30
  He's been all over the board, more or less, but
• 1:05:33
  he's mostly put Oscar. Have I? You put Oscar,
• 1:05:38
  Oscar, Max, George, Max, Lando, Oscar, Oscar.
• 1:05:41
  Gosh, I don't hate you saying Max winning. That's
• 1:05:43
  not a bad take there. You guys are so wrong.
• 1:05:48
  McLaren fanboy over here. No bias out of him,
• 1:05:50
  obviously. I'm not going to say anything until
• 1:05:54
  he's done. Oscar. Okay. Don't hate that. Yeah,
• 1:06:06
  this one's this is a toughy Lando George I Don't
• 1:06:13
  hate you're putting George on the podium. I don't
• 1:06:16
  hate that Mercedes is gonna rebound Okay Okay,
• 1:06:20
  you like putting George on your podium son. He
• 1:06:24
  does. He likes putting George or Charles and
• 1:06:26
  did More often than not, it kind of works. It's
• 1:06:28
  like a 50 -50 shot. I say more often than not,
• 1:06:32
  but it's actually not worked a couple times.
• 1:06:34
  No, it's actually more often than not. This is
• 1:06:37
  the same podium that you had when you got your
• 1:06:39
  six points in race two. It's your lucky three,
• 1:06:44
  I would say. Charles was a tough... Charles and
• 1:06:46
  Max I was really struggling with. I almost went
• 1:06:49
  Oscar Max George. Totally. But that's tough.
• 1:06:54
  Okay. Lando's going to win this week. Yes, make
• 1:06:57
  it interesting. We all have different winners.
• 1:06:59
  He had a really bad start last year. He's in
• 1:07:03
  the fastest car, and he got back to second, and
• 1:07:07
  he was catching max last year. I think he's taking
• 1:07:10
  it. I can see that. I almost didn't put Oscar
• 1:07:13
  on my podium because he didn't do well last year
• 1:07:17
  here. I think he has a way faster car now, and
• 1:07:20
  I think he's an overall better driver. So he
• 1:07:22
  probably will go on my podium somewhere. My third
• 1:07:25
  is a little... I'm stuck on where to put my third,
• 1:07:28
  and if I'm putting it in second or third. I think
• 1:07:32
  I will put Oscar in second. I don't want to put
• 1:07:36
  Max up there, though, because I don't think Max
• 1:07:39
  is going to do well this weekend. So it's Max,
• 1:07:41
  Charles, or George? It's Charles or George. I
• 1:07:44
  don't think I want to put Max this weekend. I
• 1:07:46
  was going to throw him in there just to be fun.
• 1:07:49
  You know what? I think the idea of each of us
• 1:07:53
  having a wild card, for the first time this year,
• 1:07:57
  Charles will be going up on my put. Oh, I actually
• 1:07:59
  hate that. Hold on. He didn't type it fully.
• 1:08:04
  I didn't see it. I only heard the button start.
• 1:08:06
  Man, I feel like I do want Charles to keep the
• 1:08:10
  momentum. I just don't think they can. I can
• 1:08:13
  have a comment on Charles once you make your
• 1:08:15
  pick. Once you make your pick? Yeah. How can
• 1:08:17
  you possibly already have a point? I'm not going
• 1:08:18
  to help you make your pick. Look at the system's
• 1:08:20
  cheating him. I'm losing. Yeah, good, because
• 1:08:23
  I need to be winning. The system already gave
• 1:08:24
  him a point, so now he's tied with it. Yeah,
• 1:08:26
  it's because I'm matching with the blank. Here,
• 1:08:30
  look, I'll do this, so now I'm not matching.
• 1:08:32
  Good. N. I'm losing. Help me. So here's my thought
• 1:08:37
  process. I'm so sorry we're going over time.
• 1:08:39
  I'm not even going to say it. You know what?
• 1:08:41
  You know what? Yolo. Charles. I'm putting him
• 1:08:44
  in. I spelled his name wrong. Charles. I'm putting
• 1:08:47
  him in. He's locked. Chuck. I think it could
• 1:08:50
  be Charles or George. It could even be Max. I
• 1:08:52
  just don't think Max is going to get podium this
• 1:08:53
  week. I think he's going to go two weeks in a
• 1:08:55
  row without podium. That's what I'm thinking,
• 1:08:57
  too. I sound crazy to myself. That's what I'm
• 1:08:58
  thinking, too. That's what I'm thinking, too.
• 1:09:00
  That's what you're like. Max isn't going to be
• 1:09:02
  on the podium. I'm like, for two weeks in a row?
• 1:09:05
  Again, we're not gaining any Red Bull fans right
• 1:09:07
  now. I just think he had car superiority last
• 1:09:10
  year. And that's kind of my thought. McLaren
• 1:09:14
  at this point had the faster car. McLaren was
• 1:09:17
  at the point where they were the fastest car,
• 1:09:19
  and this was where we see that Oscar was still
• 1:09:22
  kind of struggling last year, and Lando was struggling
• 1:09:24
  with his starts. So the McLaren did have the
• 1:09:26
  fastest car, and Max still found his way up top.
• 1:09:29
  I actually disagree. I don't think they had the
• 1:09:31
  fastest car at this point. I think we're still
• 1:09:33
  a few races behind. This is early in the season.
• 1:09:35
  This is after Miami. Yeah, but Miami, they were
• 1:09:39
  close to having the fastest car. I don't think
• 1:09:42
  they had the fastest car. I think most people
• 1:09:43
  tend to agree that McLaren took over as the fastest
• 1:09:46
  car after Miami. I don't know. I still see their
• 1:09:50
  dominance coming late season. sure like post
• 1:09:54
  summer break like they may have had the i guess
• 1:09:57
  you know what that's fair maybe maybe it's the
• 1:09:59
  fact that max's car is much worse than it was
• 1:10:02
  at this point of the season last year and that's
• 1:10:04
  probably the fact that i'm going off of more
• 1:10:06
  okay um yeah i could be wrong though Did you
• 1:10:10
  have a point about Charles you wanted to talk
• 1:10:11
  about? Oh, yeah. I think actually Charles is
• 1:10:14
  a good pick. I think Charles is fast on this
• 1:10:16
  track. He has shown speed on this track. And
• 1:10:17
  I don't think the Mercedes bounces back. I still
• 1:10:22
  think they're going to take time to try and figure
• 1:10:24
  out the problem with their car. Yes. Good. Good.
• 1:10:28
  Yeah. That means they're going to get third.
• 1:10:30
  I don't think Mercedes has to bounce back per
• 1:10:32
  se. I just think they had a really bad weekend.
• 1:10:34
  That's what I mean. They were off. So that's
• 1:10:35
  why they have to bounce back from that weekend.
• 1:10:37
  Yeah. and get back on the podium. I honestly
• 1:10:40
  feel like George is a better choice than Charles,
• 1:10:44
  but I like the idea of us each having a different
• 1:10:46
  wild card. And we each have a different winner.
• 1:10:49
  We do. We're going to get a points shakeup next
• 1:10:53
  week. Lando is truly the only one that I feel
• 1:10:56
  actually confident about in his place as well.
• 1:10:59
  I do, actually. I was tossing up between... I
• 1:11:02
  didn't think Oscar was going to win this weekend,
• 1:11:03
  but I was tossing up between Lando and Max, and
• 1:11:06
  I was like, you know what? Max's first ever win
• 1:11:09
  was at this track. That's true. Mick Schumacher.
• 1:11:16
  What are you talking about? I was expecting you
• 1:11:19
  to say Carlos Sainz or something. Wouldn't that
• 1:11:22
  be cool though? It would be amazing. So many
• 1:11:26
  people would have to crash. I would be so hype
• 1:11:29
  if that happened. That would be sick. Oh man,
• 1:11:32
  but what if Carlos gets fourth? That'd be so
• 1:11:34
  dope. I'd still be so hype. I love Carlos. Alright,
• 1:11:38
  well you heard it here. Banter with the boys.
• 1:11:41
  We love Carlos. With that, no pod next week.
• 1:11:47
  Mike, you won't be here next week. That's true.
• 1:11:51
  Joe, you're not going to be here next week. Are
• 1:11:53
  you going to be here next week? I'll probably
• 1:11:55
  show up on accident. Probably show up on accident.
• 1:11:58
  I ought to have it. Mike, thanks for beating
• 1:12:01
  the system and being here today. I'm here. This
• 1:12:03
  was fun. He took it to the man. Joe. For you
• 1:12:08
  Spotify listeners, I'm just nodding at Joe. That's
• 1:12:12
  all. There's something unspoken here. Oh, here,
• 1:12:14
  let me do a hat tip like they do in golf. Boop.
• 1:12:17
  There you go. You have to do the noise, too.
• 1:12:19
  Boop. My lady. All right. So with that, obviously,
• 1:12:26
  don't forget Kev behind the camera. Thanks, Kev.
• 1:12:30
  The cameras. Oh, wait. Yeah, camera. Oh, computer,
• 1:12:33
  I meant to say. We're done. Anyway, I'm Smelty.
• 1:12:36
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• 1:12:45
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• 1:12:47
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