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  Speaker 1: Taylor, put it on the poll, please. Does the first
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  Speaker 1: NFL Sunday make you dizzy? I found myself dizzy yesterday
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  Speaker 1: watching all the 1 o'clock action. It's the fantasy team.
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  Speaker 1: It's the gambling aspect. It's making sure you have everything set.
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  Speaker 1: You've done all the chores. Your wife is going to
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  Speaker 1: leave you alone for the afternoon. Sal Licata is with
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  Speaker 1: us here. The Jets and Giants are both 1-0 for
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  Speaker 1: the first time in I don't know how long.
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  Speaker 3: Sal, how was your football weekend?
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  Speaker 4: It was great, Stu.
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  Speaker 5: I got the wife and kids the hell out of
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  Speaker 5: the way.
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  Speaker 1: I sat there yesterday and.
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  Speaker 5: Watched football from 1 to 1130 with the Sunday night game.
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  Speaker 1: It was glorious.
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  Speaker 3: Does it make you dizzy at all, though?
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  Speaker 1: Does it?
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  Speaker 3: It does.
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  Speaker 1: You're right.
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  Speaker 5: And I got to, like, maybe you could help me
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  Speaker 5: with this. I got to figure out a way because
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  Speaker 5: then you get the phone as well. Like, my habit,
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  Speaker 5: I think I'm addicted to the phone, but... I have
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  Speaker 5: four games.
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  Speaker 4: Going on at once.
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  Speaker 5: You're trying to pay attention to your fantasy teams, as
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  Speaker 5: you mentioned, the bets or predictions that you're making, all
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  Speaker 5: these different things. Then people texting you. Your fantasy team
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  Speaker 5: is on your phone, social media. So, yeah, by the
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  Speaker 5: end of it, I'm spent. I got to figure out
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  Speaker 5: a way to at least eliminate, I think, the phone
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  Speaker 5: from the equation.
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  Speaker 4: But it was great.
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  Speaker 3: OK, what do you got, Taylor?
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  Speaker 6: Just a quick note, Stu.
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  Speaker 7: Jets and the Giants both won in week one for
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  Speaker 7: the first time since 2009. And everybody knows what happened
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  Speaker 7: in 2009. Jets AFC championship game.
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  Speaker 1: How dare you speak like that after Mikey spent the
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  Speaker 1: morning telling you do not raise the expectations of the
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  Speaker 1: New York Jets. Don't do it. He doesn't want to
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  Speaker 1: hear about it. I don't want to hear about it.
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  Speaker 1: We're just happy with today. And today, we are 1-0
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  Speaker 1: and the Patriots are 0-1. I mean, what a day
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  Speaker 1: to be a New York football fan.
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  Speaker 4: All the Jets did was avoid embarrassment. You've got to
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  Speaker 4: be able to beat Roberts. You know what the Titans are?
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  Speaker 5: The Titans are the compilation of the Jets and Giants
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  Speaker 5: garbage from last year. Sala, Dable, they picked up all
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  Speaker 5: these cast-offs from both losers last year to assemble their roster.
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  Speaker 5: What did you think they were going to do? Good
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  Speaker 5: for the Jets. I'm not trying to take away. Fans
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  Speaker 5: should enjoy it. But, I mean, the Titans stink.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You're right. They avoided embarrassment as opposed to the
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  Speaker 1: Giants who went out there. They weren't going to be
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  Speaker 1: embarrassed last night, but they exceeded any expectation that anyone
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  Speaker 1: may have had for week one of the NFL season.
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  Speaker 3: Not just beating the Cowboys, but the way they played.
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  Speaker 3: was so impressive.
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  Speaker 1: That is a John Harbaugh team, and for him to
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  Speaker 1: have his imprint on that team so quickly, week one,
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  Speaker 1: you saw it. They possessed the ball for 37 minutes, Sal.
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  Speaker 1: It was amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't it show you, though, Stu, how important?
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  Speaker 5: We in New York have been begging, begging either team
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  Speaker 5: forever to hire a real coach.
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  Speaker 4: And they finally do that, and you saw a lot of.
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  Speaker 5: The similar players. I mean, Dart was a rookie last year.
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  Speaker 5: He's shown some signs, but Clearly, it was a totally
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  Speaker 5: different feel. The fans could feel it before they even
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  Speaker 5: kicked off last night at MetLife.
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  Speaker 4: The energy was different.
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  Speaker 5: They expected to go out there and compete, and that
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  Speaker 5: is because of one man, Harbaugh. He got Jackson Dart
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  Speaker 5: under center, put all the pieces in the right place,
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  Speaker 5: worked these guys hard in the offseason, training them hard
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  Speaker 5: the right way, discipline, accountability, and you see it play
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  Speaker 5: out in week one like that. Gives me goosebumps thinking
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  Speaker 5: about it. Now, I'm not saying they're going to go
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  Speaker 5: to the playoffs, but, I mean, how can you not
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  Speaker 5: be impressed?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it could.
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  Speaker 4: I think they could win that division.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. But why are you so hesitant to say they're
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  Speaker 1: going to go to the playoffs? I would say we
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  Speaker 1: were discussing this earlier, Sal, of the fan bases who
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  Speaker 1: have changed their expectations after week one. And I know
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  Speaker 1: it's week one of the NFL, but this is how
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  Speaker 1: fans do it. I would say that giant fan base
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  Speaker 1: went in thinking their team might be OK, probably not
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  Speaker 1: a playoff team to thinking, hey.
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  Speaker 3: Why not us?
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  Speaker 1: Why can't we win the NFC East? Why can't we
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  Speaker 1: make a deep run in the playoffs?
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  Speaker 5: I do think that that was the case, even if
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  Speaker 5: not for just Giants fans, for national fans that were
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  Speaker 5: not really taking the Giants seriously. You see that type of— Ooh, ooh,
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  Speaker 5: Dak and the improved defense. That defense is an embarrassment.
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  Speaker 5: Schottenheimer is an embarrassment. Now, the Cowboys will be okay,
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  Speaker 5: but there's no reason to believe that the Giants, who
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  Speaker 5: won already a home division game against a team that
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  Speaker 5: many people picked to win that NFC East, there's no
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  Speaker 5: reason the Giants can't legitimately compete in the East. The
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  Speaker 5: Eagles weren't that impressive, as usual, against the Commanders. I
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  Speaker 5: do think that's their best path, though. You look at
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  Speaker 5: the landscape of the NFC. If the Giants don't win
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  Speaker 5: the division, it's going to be hard to get a
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  Speaker 5: playoff spot.
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  Speaker 7: Sal, I was dragging my feet when it came to
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  Speaker 7: this Giants team saying, you don't really see an overnight
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  Speaker 7: change just because you bring in a coach and be
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  Speaker 7: able to fix the bad football culture. But when you're
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  Speaker 7: watching the Giants last night, even I had a hard
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  Speaker 7: time kind of dismissing what they were doing. Even if
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  Speaker 7: you don't think the Cowboys are going to amount to
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  Speaker 7: much this season. The amount that Jackson Dart went out
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  Speaker 7: there and was able to impress, the amount that the
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  Speaker 7: Giants were able to establish themselves both on the offensive
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  Speaker 7: and defensive line, I do think that was probably the
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  Speaker 7: biggest statement from Week 1.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, it was incredible. And what I would say, Stu,
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  Speaker 5: to your point before, like, why can't the Giants?
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  Speaker 4: Well, they could.
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  Speaker 5: If Jackson Dart is that guy, I think that's the difference.
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  Speaker 5: Taylor talked about it. Inside the trenches, they're pretty good.
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  Speaker 5: They stopped the run yesterday. They have pieces all over
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  Speaker 5: the place on defense as far as the linebackers goes.
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  Speaker 5: Getting the pass rusher, offensive line improved, running backs, wide receivers,
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  Speaker 5: tight end, Isaiah likely good. The difference is, and I
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  Speaker 5: was actually talking about this with Francesa last week, your guy,
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  Speaker 5: the difference is if they're going to be legit, It's
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  Speaker 5: got to be Jackson Dart. And based on what we
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  Speaker 5: saw so far, there is reason to believe he could
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  Speaker 5: really take a next step in year two.
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  Speaker 1: How does that conversation work? Is that an off-air conversation,
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  Speaker 1: you and Mike? Like, you call him on the phone.
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  Speaker 1: You guys are just talking, chopping up giants.
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  Speaker 3: What are you doing there?
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  Speaker 4: No, he has me on as a guest every Friday,
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  Speaker 4: I think.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think.
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  Speaker 4: We did it last Friday.
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  Speaker 3: You're not certain there's going to be a next Friday
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  Speaker 3: is what you're saying here?
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  Speaker 4: I am hesitant. No, he said yes, but, you know.
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  Speaker 3: You never know.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: You never know where life is going to take us.
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  Speaker 5: So we were having that conversation with expectations for the Giants,
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  Speaker 5: and that's what it came down to.
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  Speaker 3: Jackson Dart. I could see, I could hear Mike saying
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  Speaker 3: it to you.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: And I was saying, like, I said, Mike, this is
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  Speaker 5: going to be the difference. Whether you think he could
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  Speaker 5: or can't, it doesn't matter. But, like, that's going to
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  Speaker 5: be the difference. And he, well, I mean, he said
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  Speaker 5: he didn't think that he would take that next step.
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  Speaker 5: There was a lot of question about him under center.
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  Speaker 5: That's the big deal, out of the shotgun under center.
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  Speaker 5: But for one week so far, so far so good
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  Speaker 5: for Jackson Dart and the Giants.
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  Speaker 7: How do you imagine Brian Dable Sunday went yesterday? Because
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  Speaker 7: he gets embarrassed by the Jets where his offense with
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  Speaker 7: Cam Ward, a former number one pick, struggles to move
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  Speaker 7: the ball up and down the field. And he's thinking, OK,
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  Speaker 7: this day can't get any worse. And he sits down
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  Speaker 7: to watch Sunday night football and watches a Giants team
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  Speaker 7: he used to coach all of a sudden look like
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  Speaker 7: a competent football team.
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  Speaker 8: Taylor.
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  Speaker 5: There's no way Brian Dable sat down to watch Sunday
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  Speaker 5: Night Football.
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  Speaker 1: I hope he didn't.
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  Speaker 4: You think he's watching football? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a football coach. Yes. Of course he's
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  Speaker 1: watching football.
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  Speaker 2: No, wait.
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  Speaker 4: These guys want them.
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  Speaker 5: If you're a football coach, the last thing you want
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  Speaker 5: to do when you get home. I remember having this
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  Speaker 5: conversation once. I was doing games for Columbia years ago.
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  Speaker 5: And I was having a conversation with the Columbia head coach.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm like, oh, you're going to go. There was
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  Speaker 5: a play on Broadway, the Lombardi play. And I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: you're going to go see the play. He's like, Sal,
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  Speaker 5: you think on a free night my wife wants to
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  Speaker 5: come with me to the city to go watch Lombardi
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  Speaker 5: on Broadway? And in that moment, I was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that's right. Like, this is a job for you. And
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  Speaker 5: you probably want to escape. If Brian Dable, who got
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  Speaker 5: his rear end kicked in by the Jets and fired
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  Speaker 5: by the Giants, is sitting there eating popcorn and pizza
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  Speaker 5: locked in a Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: Night football, I would be stunned.
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  Speaker 3: I am told.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on. This is amazing. I didn't realize there was
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  Speaker 1: a counterpoint to this, but Taylor has one. Go ahead. Counterpoint.
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  Speaker 7: So next Sunday, the Titans play the Eagles. Two Sundays
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  Speaker 7: from now, they make the trip to MetLife against the Giants.
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  Speaker 7: So I think Dable might have been doing a little pre-scouting.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'd love to find it. Stu, you don't
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  Speaker 4: have contact for Dayball?
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  Speaker 5: See if Joe Shane can maybe dial it up and
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  Speaker 5: find out if we know if he was watching that
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  Speaker 5: game or not.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what Film Room is for. Sunday night, you
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  Speaker 4: get home, you spend time with the family, watch a movie.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I have his number.
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  Speaker 1: Would you like me to text Brian Dayball and ask
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  Speaker 1: him if he sat down and watched the game? Tell
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  Speaker 1: me how you would like me to word this text.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to send it to him, okay? Hey, Coach.
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  Speaker 1: Got to start with Big Dog.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, Big Dog.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, whatever you call him. It's a simple question. We're
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  Speaker 5: not putting him on the spot here. Did you watch... Well,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I guess that could be. Now that I
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  Speaker 5: think about it, Sue, you've got to be careful there
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  Speaker 5: because it's the Giants. So if you say, did you
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  Speaker 5: watch that game? It could be like you're trolling him
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  Speaker 5: a little bit. You don't want to go there.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to say, listen, we had a conversation on air.
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  Speaker 1: It's me and Sal Licata, and we just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: know if you sat down to watch the Giant game.
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  Speaker 1: Sitting down to watch the game is very important. That's all. Thanks,
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  Speaker 1: big dog.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe leave my name out of it just in case.
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  Speaker 4: You never know what I said about him on the
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  Speaker 4: fan years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we had him on the show.
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  Speaker 3: He likes us. He'll respond, okay? Why are you doing
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  Speaker 3: Big Dog?
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  Speaker 1: Why am I starting with Big Dog? Is it like
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  Speaker 1: a term of affection? Like we know each other? Like, hey, buddy.
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  Speaker 6: Listen, somebody calls you Big Dog and you want to
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  Speaker 6: answer them. That goes back to Billy Gill.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, put it on the poll, Taylor. If somebody calls
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  Speaker 1: you Big Dog, do you feel the need to answer them?
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  Speaker 7: When you guys are watching the Titans- yesterday and seeing
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  Speaker 7: how bad Cam Ward looked at the quarterback position, I
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  Speaker 7: know it's week one, but his rookie season wasn't the
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  Speaker 7: most impressive thing in the world.
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  Speaker 6: Is there a world where.
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  Speaker 7: cam ward disappoints so much this season that the titans
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  Speaker 7: then get into this upcoming quarterback conversation this this 2027
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  Speaker 7: nfl draft if they're picking high enough i don't.
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  Speaker 1: Know if cam ward is good he was the number
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  Speaker 1: one pick in the draft and he can't just be
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  Speaker 1: good he needs to be great and i'm not certain
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  Speaker 1: he's ever going to arrive at great i don't know
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  Speaker 1: if that's a product of him being on the tennessee
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  Speaker 1: titans i don't know what it is but he has
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  Speaker 1: had i think 17 18 starts now in the nfl
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  Speaker 1: and And they've been just about average, every single one
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  Speaker 1: of them, or below average. I can't recall a great
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  Speaker 1: Cam Ward game since he took over as Tennessee quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: But I do feel like, unfortunately, I know fans don't
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  Speaker 5: want to be, but we might have to be patient. Also,
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  Speaker 5: isn't that, I mean, back to Dable here, isn't that
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  Speaker 5: his job? Dable was supposed to be one of these
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  Speaker 5: quarterback whispers. which I don't believe in that, but still,
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  Speaker 5: he did it with Josh Allen. That's why he got
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  Speaker 5: hired with the Giants. The stuff he did with Jackson Dart,
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  Speaker 5: I'll give you twofold. One, Dart looked better last night
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  Speaker 5: than he ever did with Brian Dable, with Harbaugh and
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  Speaker 5: Nagy and Roman.
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  Speaker 4: Two, Cam Ward didn't look very good in his first game.
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  Speaker 5: So that to me is a big part of why
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  Speaker 5: the Titans would hire a guy like Brian Dable to
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  Speaker 5: make the most out of Cam Ward. I would be
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  Speaker 5: a little more patient, me personally, before writing him off.
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  Speaker 7: Now, where I would push back there, those Titans baby
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  Speaker 7: blue uniforms, the only thing I kept thinking about during
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  Speaker 7: that game, Arch Manning would look so good.
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  Speaker 1: In one of these uniforms. Yes, he would.
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  Speaker 4: You think they're going to be worse than the Dolphins?
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  Speaker 6: They could be in the conversation.
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  Speaker 7: If this Titans team with Robert Sala is picking in
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  Speaker 7: the top three, Sal, I don't think anybody could be
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  Speaker 7: that surprised.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 5: No, I mean, they stink, but just Miami, I don't
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  Speaker 5: know if they're going to win a game after what
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  Speaker 5: we saw from that. And you're going to go from Ward.
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  Speaker 5: So then they just hired it. I'm not saying it
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  Speaker 5: can't happen. We've seen it happen before with Arizona. You're
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  Speaker 5: going to fire Robert Sala, who you should never hire
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  Speaker 5: to begin with, fire him and then move on from Cam.
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  Speaker 4: Ward after just two years where you had two different
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  Speaker 4: head coaches?
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  Speaker 1: No, the key to doing that is you have to
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  Speaker 1: keep Salah as the head coach and he could say
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  Speaker 1: Cam Moore was not the quarterback I drafted. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want that quarterback. I just wanted to coach the Tennessee Titans, right?
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  Speaker 6: Buy yourself a couple more years.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, you buy yourself. Exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: Sal, if it were me and I ran an NFL team,
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  Speaker 1: I'd draft a quarterback every year until I got it right.
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  Speaker 1: It's the most important position in sports. I mean, why not?
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  Speaker 5: Since we're in the business of countering today, here's my
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  Speaker 5: counter to that. More important than drafting QBs is setting
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  Speaker 5: them up to succeed. We could all think Cam Ward stinks.
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  Speaker 5: We could say he's good. Some of us could differ.
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  Speaker 5: Do you think the Titans so far have put Cam
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  Speaker 5: Ward in a position to succeed?
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  Speaker 1: No, probably not.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: Right. But I don't know if camp. But again, so
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  Speaker 1: the great quarterbacks. Right. At least for me, the great
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks are going to come in, walk into any situation
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  Speaker 1: and make that situation by themselves going to make it
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  Speaker 1: better because they are that talented. They are that good.
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  Speaker 1: The Bengals, a disaster forever. They draft Joe Burrow and
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  Speaker 1: suddenly the Bengals become relevant. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I get it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you're a great quarterback, you'll make
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  Speaker 1: any situation work, and Cam Ward has not made this
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  Speaker 1: situation work. If you put Joe Burrow on the Tennessee Titans,
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  Speaker 1: you think they're a good team? I do. I do.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think they're better. I don't know how good
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  Speaker 5: they would be, but I definitely think they're better. But
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  Speaker 5: also I'm looking at a young quarterback who, you know,
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  Speaker 5: maybe it's going to take him a little bit extra time,
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  Speaker 5: was not set up to succeed last year. We'll find
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  Speaker 5: out about being set up to succeed this year. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not so sure that that's going to be the case.
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  Speaker 5: And then my question would be, Stu, okay, I respect it.
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  Speaker 5: Draft a quarterback until you get it right. How do
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  Speaker 5: you know? I mean, the Jets drafted Sam Darnold. It
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  Speaker 5: wasn't until many years later where we won a Super
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  Speaker 5: Bowl with another team.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: The way I know is if the Jets drafted you,
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: you're not going to be any good. With them.
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: Somewhere else.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: Unless he comes back.
• 14:07
  Speaker 7: If he finds his way back to the roster, all
• 14:09
  Speaker 7: of a sudden, Geno Smith. I'm watching Geno Smith. Like, man,
• 14:11
  Speaker 7: I've never felt these feelings about Geno Smith ever before.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: The same. And he started like 90 games for us. Yeah.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of stew gods and
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• 14:27
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• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Play that open i went five and one still you
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: guys this week i mean.
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: How'd you do in college uh not so well.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: And what was your loss in the nfl uh the
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: chargers Oh, go ahead.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: Taylor set that up perfectly.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Sal, your thoughts on Justin Herbert, who has been a,
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: you know, a topic of discussion here on God bless football.
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: We're all tired of him.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: We're sick of everyone telling us how great he is
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: heading to every NFL season. Sal. The floor is yours.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, I appreciate that. Thank you, guys. First, let me
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: preface this by saying I'm really mad at myself.
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: So I'm going to say some things that are not
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: too kind to Justin Herbert here, but really it's more
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: mad at myself for getting in a bed with the
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: lousy Chargers and Herbert who do.
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: The same thing every single year.
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: Now, I wanted to ignore Herbert and say because of Harbaugh,
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: I trust that the– I hate picking favorites, whether it
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: be in a survivor pool, whether it be the spread, whatever.
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: I never pick favorites. But week one, I'm like, I
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: like the Chargers because of Harbaugh. How are they going
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: to lose to the Cardinals? They were one of the
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: worst teams last year. And then you watch the game
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: and you see Jacoby Brissett significantly outplaying big bad Justin Herbert,
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: who can't move and is eight feet tall and yet
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: still throws the ball directly into the defensive lineman's hands.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: What is wrong with this guy? I don't understand. But
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: enough about Justin Herbert. I think if Harbaugh wants to win,
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: he's going to have to find himself another quarterback in
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: Los Angeles.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Really? And now Herbert's out of excuses because Mike McDaniel
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: was the guy who was going to boost him up.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: And Mike McDaniel appears. I love doing this. They played
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: one game, a single game. And maybe Mike McDaniel will
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: do that. But I don't care. That's how fans react.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: We react based off of one week. And I'll do
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: the same thing next week. And if he has a
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: great game next week, perhaps I'll say he's figured it out.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: But as of today, Justin Herbert, for me, I'm with you, Sal,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: the most overrated quarterback in the NFL.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: But it's not just one week with him. With McDaniels, yes.
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: And I would expect the offense to be better, running
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: the football, all those different things. They'll play a much— I
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: would hope.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, they played a lousy game. It wasn't just him.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: They've got to clean some things up, and I trust
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: Harbaugh and his staff to do that. But with Herbert still,
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: even when he's at his best, there's just something off
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: there with this guy. I don't know what it is exactly.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: He's got the physical traits. I don't think we're ever
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: going to see him turn into, let's say, Matthew Stafford.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's happening with Herbert.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, you're right about the physical traits.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Like if you put all the quarterbacks in a room
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: and just ask like a GM or a coach, hey,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: just based on physical appearance, go choose your quarterback for
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: the next 10 years. A lot of those guys are
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: walking out with Justin Herbert because he looks the part.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. What do you have, Taylor?
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: Sal, I was just going to ask you, how do
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: you feel about this headline from two days ago? It
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: was Jim Harbaugh, and he said, Justin Herbert will be
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: remembered as the greatest quarterback ever.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Ever.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah. He's clearly trying to gas up his own guy.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: Look, Harbaugh, he's going to attach his wagon to Justin Herbert.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: He's going to be looking for another. He'll be going
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: back to Michigan if that's going to be the case.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: They cannot win with Justin Herbert.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Enough.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: It's year two with Harbaugh there, right, with the Chargers.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: He should be better than what he seemed. Is it
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: year two or is it year three?
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: I get them all mixed up. But either way, he
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: should be better by now.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Harbaugh and Herbert.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: They should both be better by now. Well, I still
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: love Harbaugh, Stu.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: But if he's going to tell us with a straight
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: face that Herbert is that good. Hey, this guy won
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: games with Colin Kaepernick years ago. You're telling me Justin
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: Herbert can't do anything good here? It's been too long.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: He's got to be better than what he's been with
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: the tools that he possesses. There's no reason for the
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Chargers to continue to play the same type.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Games over and over again. He's got a cannon.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: He's a physical specimen as far as being the size
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: and the strength and all that stuff. He just is.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: I just don't think he's very good. I think he's
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: the most overrated quarterback that we've seen in a while.
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, this is year three for Harbaugh. They went 11-6
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: 2024 and then 11-6 2025. So what's the next step
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: being taken? Like it's the same stuff.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Yes. Well, it's not going to be taken if Justin
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Herbert's this quarterback is what you're saying, right? Yes. He
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: needs to find a new one. How exactly are they
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: going to find the new one? They just signed Herbert
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: to a big deal. Like he's stuck with them. They're
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: saddled together. That's it.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's a problem.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: Now, I trust Harbaugh more than I would trust myself to,
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: you know. Notice a good football player or not, but
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: just the way that he performs, he's got, okay, he
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: may have the tools and he may have a cannon.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: How about a little bit.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Of touch, dude?
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: He's throwing laser beams all over the field.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: There's zero.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Taylor, you're a receiver. There's zero touch there. There seems
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: to be zero feel for the game. Just something is
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: off with this guy.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 19:25
  Speaker 8: It seems to me you you mentioned like harbaugh knows
• 19:28
  Speaker 8: what he's looking at better than we do it seems
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: to me like everybody who's supposed to be in the
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: know loves justin herbert but every time we watch it
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: we're like this is what it is this is what
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: where everybody's fawning over who's supposed to know what they're
• 19:40
  Speaker 8: looking at because every time i watch justin herbert i'm
• 19:43
  Speaker 8: like he's okay right same with trevor lawrence i put
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: them in the same category where they get oh you
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: have to see the way he releases the ball and
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: everything he sees.
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: But it never translates.
• 19:54
  Speaker 8: It never translates to wins on the field like that.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: But you could be seeing Lawrence now, and I'm not
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: going to overreact to week.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: One, but last year with Liam Cohen, they were very good.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: And then in week one this year, an eye-opening performance.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: When Lawrence was coming out, it was supposed to be, oh,
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: my God, he's going to be the next best thing
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: since Peyton Manning. It didn't happen. But now we're seeing
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: the progression. Where is the progression with Justin Herbert?
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: The opposite end of that spectrum that you just mentioned, Mikey,
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: where everybody props up Justin Herbert and Trevor Lawrence, the
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: opposite end of that is Jalen Hurts because Jalen Hurts,
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: people pick apart his game left and right.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: And then every time you watch.
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: The Eagles, it's like, oh, wait, the Eagles just won,
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: and Jalen Hurts is winning another Super Bowl.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: All he does is win.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Listen, one day I'll get to side-by-side comparisons of the
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: last four years of Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: I will.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I'll get to it and show you that Jalen Hurts
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: has been a better quarterback than Patrick Mahomes over the
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: last four seasons in the NFL. Or you guys can
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: look it up yourselves and save me the work. I mean,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I'm good. Dan, where are you on Jalen Hurts? He's
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a winner.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: That guy.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I would love for that guy to be my quarterback.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Although if he were the Jets quarterback, we'd be losers.
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: Jalen hurts i'm fine with um he's a winner i
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: don't know if they're going to win big this year
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: but he does win football games yesterday three touchdown passes
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: i think he just uh you know clipped 200 yards
• 21:23
  Speaker 9: in what he did but when they needed a score
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: to answer after what washington did finds dallas goddard and
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: the rest is history so it didn't look like they
• 21:30
  Speaker 9: missed aj brown yesterday so I have no problems with
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: Jalen Hurts.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I've never had really problems with Jalen Hurts.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: The problem that I would have, though. How about that?
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Sorry, Seth.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: If you move, Stu, you gave me this one before,
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: but if you put what we're talking about, Cam Ward
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: and Patrick Mahomes or whatever it was, if you put
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts on the Titans or the Browns or whatever,
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: is he going to elevate them the way that the
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: great quarterbacks would elevate a franchise?
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: It's a great question. Probably not.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: They have a great defense, great offensive line, running game
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: with Saquon Barkley. They've had wide receivers. They still have
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: wide receivers. I'm not certain if you put Hurts on
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: a team like the Titans that the Titans automatically become good.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: In fact, my guess is no.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's kind of the point.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, maybe the Titans are an extreme, but even
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: if you put him on a mediocre team, would he
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: have as much success?
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to knock her. I like him.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: I just don't. I've never watched him once and thought
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: to myself, wow.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: This guy is that type level. He's done that type winning,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: but I don't think he's that type level.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: But that's on us. I mean, he's outplayed Patrick Mahomes
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: in not one but two Super Bowls. I mean, he did.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Right, but again, don't you think that that's more what's
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: around him as opposed to him versus Mahomes?
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Perhaps. Mahomes had some good people around him as well.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, so... And listen, Mahomes won one of those games.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying Hurts outplayed him in that game. What
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: do you have, Dan?
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: Are the Philadelphia Eagles unstoppable if Justin Herbert's their quarterback?
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Oh, God.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Are the Falcons unstoppable if Justin Herbert's the quarterback?
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: The reason I say that is because, listen, I think
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: that there's only a certain amount of people that we're
• 23:07
  Speaker 9: going to look at and talk about, like the greatness
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: of quarterbacks. I don't think that Jalen Hurts is one
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: of those guys. I think he works for Philadelphia and, yeah,
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: has probably the best offensive line any team in the
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: NFL has had over the last five years or whatever
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: it's been. So there are obviously pluses with it. But
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: I think Justin Herbert, to kind of go back to
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: that conversation, we're looking at Justin Herbert as that quarterback
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: that is a generational or one that we're going to
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: talk about like we did with Breeze, Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger, Rivers.
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: And he's not even to that point just yet. I
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: don't know if we can put Jalen Hurts or if
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: we ever will put him in that quarterback conversation again.
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: you know, with some of the greats. But I feel
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: like Justin Herbert felt like he was being fast-tracked to
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: that conversation and has been stuck in neutral for, like,
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: the last couple of years.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: So, Dan, I don't know how Justin Herbert would look
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: on the Eagles, but what I do know is that
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: Dan Orlovsky would be caping up for Justin Herbert, telling
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: us that it was going to be the greatest thing.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: He's ever seen since sliced bread.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Orlovsky and Harbaugh.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and the second they lose, it's like, oh, the Eagles'
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: offensive line is actually not as good as you think
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: they are.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, Al.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: No, what we talk about, well, was Cam Ward or
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: is Cam Ward in a position to succeed? I do
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: believe Herbert now with Harbaugh, especially with McDaniels, he is
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: in a position to succeed. But three years now, or
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: this is year three, as you said before— with him
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: under Harbaugh, I.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Just don't see it. I need to see. I see
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: a strong arm. I see a big body.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: I don't see a winning quarterback that can make big throws,
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: that can put touch on the football when needed. I
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: just don't see it from Herbert. And when you compare that,
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: it's all relative to the expectations. The expectations were through
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: the roof for him. I'm not even seeing a mediocre
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: quarterback with Justin Herbert at this point.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to Taylor's winners and losers from
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: a week one here in the NFL. Give me the music.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: How about that?
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: What do you got, Taylor?
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: My first winner.
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: Josh Allen, because I don't think we're talking enough today
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: about how much he got bailed out with Kamari Lasseter
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: dropping that pick in the end zone where Josh Allen
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: throws that ball up and everybody's like, whoa, that's the
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: only thing you can't do in that situation.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, it reminded me a few years ago, if you
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: remember Stafford on his Super Bowl run, just threw a
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: duck up at the air and someone on Tampa should
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: have picked it off and the game would have been
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: over and Stafford never wins a Super Bowl. He dropped it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: We forget those plays all the time, man.
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: I know that they're professionals and I know they always
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: do that.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, we'll pick each other up.
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: And it's not about one guy.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: It's one flight.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: But if you're on the Texans, you got.
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: To be looking at Lassiter different today, right?
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: He was terrible.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: You got to just be looking at him side. I'd
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: just be like, you know, you cost us the game.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: What exactly are you saying here? That the Texans are
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: looking at him now?
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: He's probably the most hated person in the locker room
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: right now, and nobody will say it because they're all
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: going to be good professionals and good teammates, but everybody.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Hates him tonight. Taylor, put it on the poll. Do
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the Texans secretly and quietly hate Lassiter?
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: My biggest loser today. Father time.
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: Derek Henry is absolutely whooping father time right now. Derek
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: Henry finishes 24 carries 144 yards and three touchdowns.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Father time is undefeated.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: Not anymore.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Not anymore.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: How old is he?
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Henry?
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: He's always looked old, but he's 32, but in running
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: back years, that's like 65.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: It's not like he doesn't have low mileage on those
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: 32 years.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Is he any years old? He George years.
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: He's my Honda civic with 300,000 miles on it.
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: Chugging along.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Is he third all time and touchdowns that for running
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: backs third, I think Derek, Edward.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: My next winner.
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: We're staying in the AFC north, the bangles. I think
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: the bangles have a complete roster.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, do you?
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Saying that finally the defense with sexy.
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: Decks yeah i like and boy mafe that they got
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: from the seahawks a lot of guys that they got
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: this offseason made an instant impact in week one.
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah taylor this is just for you and we can
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: put it on the poll if you want well stew
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: gots his head explode if it's joe burrow versus caleb williams.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: In the super bowl that's a win-win it really is
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: okay I take it over the jets.
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: They'll be floating that week at radio row. My two guys,
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: my next biggest loser, Stefan digs. No Stefan digs has
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: a redemption where, where he scores a touchdown and they're
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: down by two. And I don't think this costs them
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: the game because there was so much game left after it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: But Stefan Diggs scoring and then doing the celebration where
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: he goes and hugs the goalposts and immediately getting flagged.
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: It's like we brought you here to the commanders to
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: kind of be the adult in the room at the
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: receiver position.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: He never is.
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you can't bring Stefan Diggs when you need an
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: adult in the room.
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: Just remember the commanders were trying to get Brandon Ayuk
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: and they've settled for Stefan Diggs.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: Maybe they don't know what an adult in the room
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: looks like.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: What an idiotic, selfish penalty by Diggs. But is anybody surprised?
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: A clear situation where you need to go for.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: Two, and he's selfishly hugging the pole, sliding down it
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: like a fire pole.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, come on.
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: And he was walking back to the sideline after like, yeah,
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: but the touchdown was pretty cool, guys, right?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: That's all he cares about.
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: My next winner. One more winner, one more loser.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: Last winner, Justin Jefferson. Eight catches, 92 yards, two touchdowns.
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: It's always a mess, that Minnesota quarterback room.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: But every once in a while, Justin Jefferson kind of
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: reminds everybody, like, don't forget about me when you're talking
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: about who's the best wide receiver.
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: In the NFL.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yep. He made Carson Wentz look good. He did.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: My last loser.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: Browns fans. That game was over.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: Within the first two drives. And it's like all Browns
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: fans got into or went into week one saying, we
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: know what this team is going to be. We know
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: what Deshaun Watson is going to look like week one.
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: Why are we even playing Deshaun Watson? And the Browns
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: are like, no, this is Deshaun Watson's redemption story. Oh,
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: so much for that redemption story. Shador Sanders is going
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: to be starting by week three.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: But they're getting Deshaun starts over with before they go home.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: And you hear Monken today doubling down on it.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: My God, I do feel bad for Browns fans. There
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: is no hope.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: With that guy as the head coach sticking with that
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: guy as the quarterback, that's a wrap on this year
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: and probably next year too.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: You wait your entire life to get a head coaching
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: job and you put your trust in Deshaun Watson.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Good decision like five years ago. Yeah, Mikey.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: If you want to.
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: Beat the traffic coming home from a Browns stadium, you
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: have to stay the whole game.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Is that how you beat the traffic?
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Put it on the pole.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: To beat the traffic in Cleveland after a Browns game,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: do you have to stay until the final whistle?
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gatz and
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Company live weekdays at 3 p.m.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Eastern, 12 p.m. Pacific. We'll get to Sherman Oaks and
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Dan Byer in the update here in just a second. Taylor,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you swore to us that you would not watch a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: second of the Falcon Steelers game because Cooper Rush was
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: playing quarterback in that game. And it seems like the Falcons,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: who have a very talented team, no one wants to
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: play quarterback for them. But did you watch any of
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that game, the Falcons and Steelers?
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: No, I kept my word. I was going to remain
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: steadfast that I was not turning that game on. I
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: was not going to waste a second of trying to
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: find my remote and figuring out putting on that Steelers-Falcons game.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: I got my fix when I'm watching the Jets-Titans game
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: on my one-screen TV of just the occasional cut-in of B.
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: John Robinson doing something breathtaking.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: He's on my fantasy team. The Falcons are going to
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: kill that poor man.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: He's good for one 50-plus-yard play every game, which is awesome.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, he had a touchdown yesterday.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Listen, they lost. But he did enough for me. Cooper
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Rush is bad, huh, Sal? Dude. Okay.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: Now, not only— I just want another preface here from me.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: Not only did I grow up a Falcons fan. I
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: really don't even care that much about them anymore since
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. But I believed that the public was
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: overvaluing in this particular game the Steelers. and minimizing Atlanta
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: and their weapons. And like Cooper Rush, I'd be lying
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: if I said I really watched him play a lot,
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: but I saw that he won some games as a
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: backup with the Cowboys, won some games as a backup with.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: The Ravens, and I'm like, well, how bad can this
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: guy be? Tua's been awful. Maybe it's going to be
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: an upgrade. And then... I made the mistake, unlike Taylor,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: where I watched this game. It was part of the
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: four box. I had this game on. I was locked in.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: I actually bet on the stupid Atlanta Falcons. Plus six
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: and a half, money line, whatever. This guy, Cooper Rush,
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: played the worst game I have ever seen.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Like I said before, Herbert stinks. It's relative.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: Herbert stinks, but like Cooper Rush doesn't belong anywhere near
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: an NFL football field. He basically was handing the ball
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: to TJ Watt.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: The entire game. They missed two field goals. He threw
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: two picks. They still should have beaten the Steelers. Taylor,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: I'm with you.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: If Cooper Rush is the quarterback again next week, I
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: am not watching the Falcons anymore until they get a
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: real quarterback in there.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: This is a take that seems like it's drenched in
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: gambling losses. I mean, just soaked in gambling losses. I mean,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: no one's this angry about Cooper Rush unless they were
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: dumb enough about the Falcons yesterday.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Speaker 3 0 1.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: Sal put on the, on the sheet, Cooper rush is
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: the worst quarterback I've ever seen. And I'm like, did
• 32:55
  Speaker 8: we not live in a word with Trevor Simeon or
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: Nathan Peterman? And I'm sitting there going like, why would
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: he say Cooper rush was that bad?
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: And then I hear his take and I'm like, oh,
• 33:04
  Speaker 8: it's gambling losses too.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: That makes sense.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: He's the most recent quarterback that costs sound money.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: No.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Speaker 4 0 1.
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: So is this Cooper rushes or is this the Falcons
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: decision-makers fault? Because you went into a season With an
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: injury-prone Tua, an injury-prone Michael Penix, and then week one
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: shows up and it's like, where's Tua? Where's Michael Penix? Oh,
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: the two injury-prone quarterbacks are injured. And then you have
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: Cooper Rush a couple of days before the game where
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: they're saying he's experiencing back spasm. And it's like, oh, man,
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: you're not even going to get 100% Cooper Rush?
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: They should have then just went with whoever the emergency
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: quarterback was and Jack the Wildcat.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: They would have worked. What does Matt Ryan think? And
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: I love Matty Ice. He's now running the show down there.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: How do you go from spending a gazillion dollars on
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins, picking Michael Penix in the first round? bringing
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: in Tua to have Cooper freaking rush starting week one
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: of a new NFL season. And it's not just because
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: I lost the bet or was wrong about the pick
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: or I'm a Falcon fan. Legitimately, this guy could not
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: make a throw. He kept throwing it to the Steelers.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: They should have had more interception. He was an embarrassment.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: I've seen awful quarterback play in my life, whether it's
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: with the Jets, the Giants, the Falcons, you name it.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: This was, Stu, this was beyond, like, I can't believe
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: that he actually took, that they put him in a
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: position to take.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: The field in an NFL game.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: What a bad beat. Yeah, Dan. If he could throw,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: his name would be Cooper Pass.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: What?
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: He got it for that? That was good. Great job.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: You feel good about that? Just a drop Sam likes
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: to play. Way too much, by the way, I might add.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Speaking of pass, I'm going to pass
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: it to you. Sherman Oaks, Dan Beyer with a sports update.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I do want to add one thing to Taylor's wins
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: and losses for the weekend.
• 34:57
  Speaker 9: How about Carolina when it's mid 90s on artificial surface?
• 35:02
  Speaker 9: They're like, yeah, we'll wear our black pants and black
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: helmet and dark blue jerseys.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: My goodness. Like every NFL team. I was like, maybe
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: we'll wear white week one because it's going to be hot.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Not Carolina. Not when you're playing in an oven in Charlotte.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Bears put up 59 on them.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Taylor, you see what Sark had to say, by the way?
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: What?
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Since we were talking about him earlier.
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: What'd he say?
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Ohio State should be commended for playing Texas.
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: I mean, because they all stick to the same script. Like,
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: Ryan Day comes out today and is like, oh, you
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: don't want us to play Texas? We're fine playing Youngstown
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: State if that's what people really want.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: Nope.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: No apology in there, Stu, to Holly Rowe. That's what
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: I care about.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Or Laura Rutledge. No apologies.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: He blew off two sideline reports. He has an obligation
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: to do it. You guys are right. Everyone has a
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: right to be upset over Sork not doing that. He
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: has a media obligation. That's part of the deal. It's
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: why ESPN, ABC is paying so much money for the rights.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Part of the reason. They want the games, but that's
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: just a perk of having the games is you get
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: the coach coming off during halftime and after a big
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: victory and he blew him off twice. Bad job by Sork.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: It was just rude to me. Now, back to the, like,
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: don't we all know? Like, why does he got to
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: remind us?
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Oh, well, credit to Ohio State.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Like, we all know Ohio State's good and Texas is good.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: I'd rather see those games.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: And they're not going to be penalized to the death
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: penalty for losing a game, especially with the playoff now. Like,
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: what do they need to explain themselves for? We could
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: see it with our own eyes who they're playing.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I think what Sark is trying, he's laying the groundwork.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: He's a big resume guy.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Like, hey, if you have three.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Right. No, but he's setting the groundwork, you know, for
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: when he loses three games, he still wants to make
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: it to the playoff.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, I got you.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: I got you. Building up Ohio State.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: Ohio State's loss this past weekend was better than any
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: other team's win this past weekend. That's basically what Sark
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: is arguing.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: It's a good argument.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I don't mind it. Like, it's fair. Totally fair, right?
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: Who did Miami play? Like, look at some of the— but
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: what about Georgia? Like, I'm not trying to minimize them,
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: but that's what college football is. You get 50-point spreads
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: regularly throughout the course. When you get a rare good
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: game like that, it's intriguing.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: I'd rather that.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I was more impressed with that Ohio State loss than
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I was with just about any win this weekend. Seriously.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, they were on the road in Texas.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I know they blew a lead, but they're on the
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: road against Texas, a very good football team. They lost
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: a very close game. And that's all Sark is saying.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Don't hold it against them because they scheduled us. And
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: that's it. And I agree.
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: Sal, I made a catastrophic mistake when it comes to
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: radio last week.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he heard it.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: I admitted, no.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Not that one? Not that one. A different one. Okay,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: There's so many.
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: What I did, Sal, was I admitted I was wrong.
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: I watched the Oklahoma State Tulsa game after Oklahoma State
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: was my darling in the preseason. And when they lose
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: to Tulsa, I came in here and I said, hand up, guys.
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: I couldn't have been more wrong about this team. And
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: then by admitting I was so wrong, I sold all
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: my stocks on this Oklahoma State team.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Not your socks, your socks.
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: No, I didn't sell my socks. I'm still wearing my socks.
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: But I sold my stocks when it comes to this
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: Oklahoma State team. And then, of course, what happens? Oklahoma
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: State has arguably the win of the weekend upsetting Oregon
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: and Dan Lanning.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Yep. The mistake was not apologizing. The mistake was getting
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: off your original pick too soon. Like I was trying
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: to say last week, if you believe something, stick it
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: out a little bit longer.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: And obviously you jumped off that bandwagon. Now you can't
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: get credit for it. There's no going back.
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: No backseats.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: Nope.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Mike Gundy and them boys. Not Mike Gundy. I know.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: It was the joke. I was shocked that he's still
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: not the Oklahoma State coach. I thought he would.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Anyway, he did that, Sal, just to get me to
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Dan Lanning. That's why he did it.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: He set me up to rip Dan Lanning because he
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: wants me to rip Dan Lanning because Dan Lanning is annoying.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Dan Lanning, 90 minutes before kickoff. How about you stop
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: palling around and having a chuckle fest with Pat McAfee
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: and the entire game day crew and Nick Saban and
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: focus on the football game. He is sitting there. He's
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: mic'd up for sound. He's walking across the field. He's
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: yucking it up with McAfee. He's got a football in
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: his hand. And then McAfee, of course, because he has
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: endless amounts of money, challenged him to hit the goalpost
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: with a football and he would get $ 500, 000 to a charity.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Now I'm all for raising money for a charity, but
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: but I'm also all for a football coach focusing on
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: the game that takes place in 90 minutes, not trying
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: to hit a goal. post that once not twice but
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: three separate times with mcafee and the game day crew
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Imagine if Dan Lanning walks out on that field and
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: 90 minutes before kickoff, one of his players is yucking
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: it up with Pat McAfee, trying to raise money for
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: charity and doing everything but being focused on the opponent
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: and the game that is coming up in 90 minutes
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: at Stillwater. That guy would get ripped by Dan Lanning.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: And there's Dan Lanning out there because no one could
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: yell at him. There is Lanning out on the field,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: not focused on the opponent, not focused on his team,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: not focused on the game. He is focused on making
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Pat McAfee laugh.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Enough. Terrible.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Terrible job by Lanning.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Taylor, I feel good. Sue, that was great. I just
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: feel bad ripping a guy who's doing the charitable.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Thing.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Listen, you're making $ 10 million a year. By the way, McAfee, $ 500, 000.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Lanning tossed in an extra $ 50, 000. I mean, how about
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: just peel off a check for charity and focus on
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: the football game? How does that sound?
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: So I've had one eye on Dan Lanning ever since
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: he got to Eugene where everybody's praising him being the
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: next golden boy in college football. And his results leave
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: a lot to be desired. And I think I've just
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: come to the conclusion that Dan Lanning is the Nick
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: Saban of Mike Norvell's.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Can I make a confession to you guys? You're live
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: on national radio.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead. You don't care about Oregon?
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: I had no idea who Dan Lanning was until I
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: looked it up. In the middle of that rant, I
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: was like, who the hell is Dan Lanning? Oh, yeah,
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: the Oregon head coach.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Now Mikey is putting his hand in his face here
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: because we're on national radio. No, I had to learn
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: this as well. Sal grew up in an area where
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: no one cares about Dan Lanning. And I'm starting to
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: wonder why I care this much about Dan Lanning. I mean,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: the man was raising a half million dollars for charity,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: and I'm sitting here ripping Dan Lanning. I mean, he
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: did a good thing right up until he lost to
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma State.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: Would you have ripped him?
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: I'd be totally fine with it.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Good job by Dan.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: What a good guy.
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: I think there is a conversation to be have that
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: Dante Moore. skips the NFL draft last year because the
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: premise was basically, I don't want to go to the Jets.
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: Now it looks like Dante Moore is going to avoid
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: the first round entirely next year because everybody's having questions
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: about him. And I think there is a conversation to
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: be had that he loses his OC. His OC takes
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: the head coaching job at Kentucky. I think you can
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: have the conversation today. Should Dante Moore, if he didn't
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: want to go to the Jets, if he didn't, if
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: he would so foot down, I'm not going to the Jets.
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: you should have at least considered going with your offensive
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: coordinator to Kentucky.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: Stu, you said stop.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Like, that doesn't happen.
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: Like, last year preseason, we weren't talking about Nussmeyer or
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: Klubnick going top five, and none of them went in
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: the first round. Like, Dante Moore could legitimately fall to
• 42:27
  Speaker 8: the third, fourth, and fifth round with how bad he's
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: been two weeks in.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: And then you add that, the fact that he's saying
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: he's a quarterback who's suffering from anxiety. Like, that's not
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: a quarterback I want coming to New York. I don't
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: want a quarterback who's worried about playing in Eugene, Oregon.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Coming to New York.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: This actually happens. That's totally fair. But I do trust
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Todd McShay, who says he's the best quarterback in college football. Like,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I trust his scouting. He said that three weeks ago.
• 42:52
  Speaker 8: Before those two games.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I understand that. And that could change, and maybe it
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: will as the season rolls on. But again, and I'm
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: sitting here and I'm overreacting to everything because it's fun
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: to do on a Monday after one week of NFL football.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: But they played three games.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: They've played three games. That's all I'm saying. Maybe he
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: will slip out. Maybe he will fall out of the
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: first round. I have no idea. It's just three games, though.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: They change all the time. Remember Drew Aller a couple
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: years ago?
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, my God.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: Drew Aller. I can't wait to get my hands on him.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: And then he stays in college the next year.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: It's like, you can't find him. Where is Drew Aller?
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: So those things change so quickly. He had a chance
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: last year, and he didn't want it. And now he's
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: got to pay the consequences. You gamble on yourself or
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: whatever the proper term there is with college kids.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: And you know what? Now he may pay the price.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Who's the quarterback?
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: When you think of quarterbacks who stayed one year too long,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I think of Matt Leinart.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: I know they went to the championship game. They were
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: going for a three-peat.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: But Matt Leinart, if he left after his junior year,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: was going to be a top-five pick in the draft.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: He stayed, did have a great year. They had a
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: great year. I know. But Mikey, that's a big difference
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: between top three and 13.
• 43:59
  Speaker 8: I mean, just last year, Nussmeyer, Klubnick, both of them,
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: if they would have come out last year in the draft,
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: the year before last year in the draft, they're probably
• 44:10
  Speaker 8: top 10 to 15 picks. They go back to school.
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: They're talked about. Oh, these guys are going to be.
• 44:15
  Speaker 8: And they both stunk and they both fell in.
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: They didn't fall spots like, like liner. They fell rounds.
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: If it's not liner, I would say you would, you
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: would stay at USC and it's probably Matt Barkley who
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: came back for his senior year. Cause he was like,
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: I think USC could win a national title. And then
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: Barkley got so hurt his shoulder that he fell all
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: the way in the fourth round in 2013.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Yes. Sal, I'm so proud of you for admitting to
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: a national audience that you had no idea who Dan
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Lanning was. It's a big step for you. I wouldn't
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: have done it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I get it.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: What's the worst that could happen? I get fired again.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not worried about it.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to fire you.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: I'm proud of you.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I've been saying forever that you in your car. Okay.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: There are people driving in their car all over this
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: country who know more about sports than the people on
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: the microphones. And it's okay to acknowledge that and admit it.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I've been doing it my entire career.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: They do.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: They care about it more than we do sometimes.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, have I heard of his name? Maybe,
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: but I totally blanked on it. So, yeah, I'm not
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: afraid to admit that. Wouldn't you rather me be honest
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: with you? I'm not going to pretend. I could easily
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: just go to my phone and go to Safari. Oh, yeah,
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: Dan Lanning, you know, he's been here since 2022. He's
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: 56 and 48. Like, yeah, you don't want that.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: I was honest with you.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Right. I lied as well. I really thought Mike Gundy
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: was still coaching at Oklahoma State. We all knew, though.