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UFOs in the Rapture and the Tribulation · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast. Hello,
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Speaker 1: I'm Gary Steerman of Prophecy Watchers and with me is
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Speaker 1: La mar Zouli. What can I say about La other
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Speaker 1: than that he is a great DVD and book producer.
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Speaker 1: He has been in the business of shall we say
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Speaker 1: exploration for how many years has it been, La?
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Speaker 2: It's really started in nineteen ninety, but if it goes
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Speaker 2: back before then, because I was always interested in this
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Speaker 2: stuff as a kid. So but the Lord really didn't
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Speaker 2: raise me up into this until the nineties. And even
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Speaker 2: then it was it was kind of cloaked and hidden
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Speaker 2: from me, and you know, I didn't I was a
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Speaker 2: worship leader. I love writing Christian music and neo classical music.
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Speaker 2: I'm a trained classical pianist. I mean, not a concert pianist,
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Speaker 2: but I'm classically trained and I compose my own stuff.
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Speaker 2: I never thought i'd be doing what I'm doing now,
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Speaker 2: so it's it's amazing. But yeah, Lord Lord's raised me
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Speaker 2: up for this and it's become a passion.
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Speaker 1: Well, there's a phrase that goes along with you. It's
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Speaker 1: on the trail of the nephylines, you know, And of
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Speaker 1: course This is biblical in scope because the Nephylene are
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Speaker 1: the fallen ones, and they are the ones who have
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Speaker 1: tampered with human development along the way and given man
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Speaker 1: a great deal of trouble which he has to get
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Speaker 1: out of. And that's basically the story of the Bible,
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Speaker 1: the fall of Satan, the sin of man, the great flood,
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Speaker 1: the earth dries out, and countries are formed over the millennia,
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Speaker 1: and through that whole scenario runs the basic strain of
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Speaker 1: biblical truth, namely that man has sinned, but there is
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Speaker 1: a cure for the sin and it's going to come about,
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Speaker 1: and of course that's all described in scripture. But around
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Speaker 1: the edges are all of these amazing side stories, probably
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Speaker 1: the most amazing of which is expressed as the current
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Speaker 1: UAP phenomena, which you and I believe is not what
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Speaker 1: most people think it is.
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Speaker 2: And I concur with that. It's it's now at the
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Speaker 2: point where it's no longer talked about like we used to,
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Speaker 2: you know, just in back rooms and just one on
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Speaker 2: one swapping stories. Now it's out in the open, and
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Speaker 2: I find it. I find it sort of humorous that
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Speaker 2: instead of UFO and identified flying on it, now it's
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Speaker 2: aerial phenomenon, and suddenly it's okay to talk about it.
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Speaker 2: You know everybody, Oh it's u A p u A.
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Speaker 2: People don't say UFO.
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Speaker 1: Well now is it aerial phenomena or anomalous phenomena?
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they've changed it again, right, you know whatever
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Speaker 2: certainly is anomalous or is it anomalous?
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Speaker 1: Because essentially it's becoming so common now everybody knows what
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Speaker 1: you're talking about when you mentioned the UFO or and
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Speaker 1: immediately the height of their own story. Oh yeah, I
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Speaker 1: heard about this one in Ohio or one in Las Vegas,
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Speaker 1: or I saw something or I saw something. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: so it's a common Uh, let's call it a propaganda
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Speaker 1: ploy because I think that behind the whole UAP phenomenology
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Speaker 1: is an effort on the part of someone, and the
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Speaker 1: Bible describes him very well, who is trying to influence
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Speaker 1: the thinking of mankind.
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Speaker 2: And he has influence the thinking of mankind. I mean,
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Speaker 2: more people believe in the extraterrestrial hypothesis than they do
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Speaker 2: in the inter dimensional hypothesis or taking a step for
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Speaker 2: the biblical narrative which talks about see when we mentioned
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Speaker 2: the word like angels, imediately people have his picture a
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Speaker 2: lot of people. I'm paved with the broad bush, but
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Speaker 2: you know, little cherub sitting on a cloud playing a heart.
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Speaker 2: But it's not what we're talking about. We're talking about
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Speaker 2: creatures who are ageless, who can manipulate space, time, matter,
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Speaker 2: and energy, who are incredibly powerful, so much so that
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Speaker 2: when one appears to Daniel, Daniel does a face plant.
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Speaker 2: He can't even stand in the presence of one. So
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Speaker 2: we're looking at entities from the good guys from the
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Speaker 2: other side, which when they show up, I mean you
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Speaker 2: can barely stand in their presence. They have to come
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Speaker 2: over and touch you. We're not talking about cherubs here,
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Speaker 2: little you know, sweet angelic things eating you know, gingerbread
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Speaker 2: or something. These are warriors, and there seems to be
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Speaker 2: different classes, like the Watchers, for instance, or the cherub beam.
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Speaker 2: So these entities are here, they have been here. The
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Speaker 2: fallen watchers are the ones that we need to watch
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Speaker 2: for no pun intended, but we do because, as Chuck
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Speaker 2: Mesler used to say, that's where all the mischiefs started.
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Speaker 2: It starts on Mount Hermone where vituitor or watcher angels
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Speaker 2: come down. They land on Hermone and they take this
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Speaker 2: oath led by Samyaza, and basically that oath is really
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Speaker 2: interesting because it says, you know, we are they who
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Speaker 2: who who came. It's actually a stelae in the British Museum.
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Speaker 2: We are came, we are those who came here. And
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Speaker 2: it's the mountain of the oath, you know, against against
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Speaker 2: the Most High God. And this is what starts the
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Speaker 2: Genesis three fifteen, or the fulfillment of a Genesis three
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Speaker 2: fifteen narrative of the mixing of the seed of a
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Speaker 2: sea war when they begin to take the women and
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Speaker 2: they go into them and have children, but the children
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Speaker 2: are hybrid entities with no soul. In my opinion, these
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Speaker 2: are of a Nephelene. So we know that this has
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Speaker 2: been going on, and it dovetails exactly into the biblical
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Speaker 2: prophetic narrative Genesis three fifteen, which you taught on years
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Speaker 2: ago at the first Nephilene conferences. And I said earlier,
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Speaker 2: you know, we all went to school that day. It
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Speaker 2: connected with dots in ways that I didn't know. So
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Speaker 2: most churches are unaware of this. They don't talk about this,
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Speaker 2: they don't teach their people. And so the younger generation
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Speaker 2: in particular have grown up with Star Trek, Star Wars
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Speaker 2: and all the other sci fi movies, and there if
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Speaker 2: you ask the average kid, let's say, under thirty, are
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Speaker 2: there e is there extraterrestrial life out there? They said, well,
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Speaker 2: of course there is. There has to be. Why would
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Speaker 2: we be so foolish as to think that they're not.
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Speaker 2: But you know, we know from the biblical narrative that
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Speaker 2: the Lord, the Most i God el Yon rolls everything
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Speaker 2: up like a scroll. He creates a new heaven and
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Speaker 2: a new Earth.
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Speaker 1: So paraphrasing Enoch, the Book of Enoch correct which describes
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Speaker 1: the assault of the angels who descended upon Mount Hermone,
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Speaker 1: and they it describes their motives very well. They came
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Speaker 1: down here to bribe mankind, essentially by giving him gifts
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Speaker 1: from on high knowledge of various kinds. And the knowledge,
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Speaker 1: of course is mentioned. And for in return for that knowledge,
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Speaker 1: the human beings then became their slaves, their slaves in
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Speaker 1: every sense of the word. And when Jude writes about this,
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Speaker 1: he quotes Enoch and Jude just before Revelation, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's like, get ready, the story is coming, And in
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Speaker 1: the Book of Revelation it comes. But when Jude writes
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Speaker 1: Jude fourteen, Enoch the seventh from Adam prophesied, of these
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Speaker 1: people that we're talking about, and they disguise themselves as
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Speaker 1: as drivers of UFOs or UAPs. We'll talk about that
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Speaker 1: in a minute. But Enoch the seventh from Adam said, behold,
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Speaker 1: the Lord comes with ten thousands of his saints, execute
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Speaker 1: judgment upon all, and to convict all that are ungodly
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Speaker 1: among them, and all our ungodly deeds which they have
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Speaker 1: ungodly committed, and of all of their hard speeches which
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Speaker 1: ungodly sinners have spoken against him. Now that those are
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Speaker 1: harsh works, very harsh, meaning that a great judgment is
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Speaker 1: coming against those who so many years ago invaded planet
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Speaker 1: Earth to take charge. And of course the flood ensued
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Speaker 1: after that, and we got to restart, if you will.
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Speaker 1: But it's like, this is round two. We're watching the
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Speaker 1: UAPs right now, and a lot of people are saying,
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Speaker 1: did they come from Alpha Centauri or Epsilon Eradoni to
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Speaker 1: use the famous location, or did they come from right
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Speaker 1: around here? And I think they came from right around here.
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Speaker 2: And I do too. I think they pop in and
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Speaker 2: they pop out, they be here forever. Basically, the vestiges
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Speaker 2: of them dot our planet in places like waited tambo
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Speaker 2: In Peru, Karnak, France, Gilgo, ral Fayim, America, Stonehenge. They've
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Speaker 2: been here and they've been here a long time, and
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Speaker 2: we see their handiwork globally. That's why we have that
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Speaker 2: new film out of Place Artifacts. But armitrailer of nepheline
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Speaker 2: shows us in fact, if I can segue our DNA,
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Speaker 2: and Mondo was very instrumental Mando. When I went down,
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Speaker 2: we took the DNA samples. That's number number six in
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Speaker 2: the AMA Trail of nephiline series. Mando and I went down.
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Speaker 2: There were lab suits and we're taking DNA. I think
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Speaker 2: we took on fifty eight samples, and out of the
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Speaker 2: fifty eight, twenty eight of them sequenced. Out of the
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Speaker 2: twenty eight samples, of opponderance of them showed a Middle
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Speaker 2: Eastern Eastern European connection Haplo group from the female side,
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Speaker 2: from the maternal side of the equation writes history and
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Speaker 2: at the academia for the most part, I won't even
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Speaker 2: look at it now. I had a man up to me.
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Speaker 2: He was a microbiologist at a conference, and he said
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Speaker 2: to me in fact, it was the Prophecy Watchers conference
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Speaker 2: in Orlando. He said, I want you to know that
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Speaker 2: your work on DNA has caused a ripple. No, we
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Speaker 2: will talk about it publicly, but it's caused a ripple.
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Speaker 2: And I'm just kind of going like, wow, that's that's
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Speaker 2: news to me. So apparently, according to this particular man,
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Speaker 2: and I have no way of vetting that our work
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Speaker 2: because because the DNA that we were the only the
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Speaker 2: only team that I know of that went down and
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Speaker 2: took the DNA samples. Mondo and myself and the late
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Speaker 2: Richard Shaw was our videographer. He hates that word, but
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Speaker 2: Rick Rick did all the filming. Chase Klowsky tagged and
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Speaker 2: bagged everything. Now, since then Gaya sent down their own
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Speaker 2: people and apparently they got nuclear DNA and the nuclear
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Speaker 2: DNA said unknown primate. Well, they're just piggybacking on our work.
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Speaker 2: We had it first. And the bottom line is it
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Speaker 2: does rewrite history because it shows that these people in
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Speaker 2: perakas Peru originated not in the Americas, they originated in
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Speaker 2: the Levant. They originated in and around Israel.
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Speaker 1: And for those who might not be familiar with your work,
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Speaker 1: what a sample, what was used for the sample that
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Speaker 1: was taken, we.
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Speaker 2: Turned and a lot we took care, We took bone.
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Speaker 2: In some places we were allowed to take teeth, but
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Speaker 2: oftentimes what we did to avoid any type of contamination. Remember,
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Speaker 2: Mando and I are dressed in full lab suits, which
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Speaker 2: means we've got hairnets, We're wearing masks, eye protection and
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Speaker 2: a full body suit with double sleeves and gloves. I mean,
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Speaker 2: and every time a new artifact, a new skull was
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Speaker 2: brought in, Mando when I were out of the room,
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Speaker 2: getting rid of the old lab suits, putting on new
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Speaker 2: lab suits, blowing each other each other off with compressed air,
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Speaker 2: and then going back in. I mean, you can't our
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Speaker 2: protocols for field gathering. Gathering samples in the field were,
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Speaker 2: in my opinion, incredible. And these were the elongated The
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Speaker 2: elongated skulls found in Perakas and the ones that hit
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Speaker 2: Page were in the private museum, Senior Wan's Paracice History
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Speaker 2: Museum because they were fresh, the ones from the ACA Museum.
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Speaker 2: They had them in the third story of the museum.
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Speaker 2: It was hot, there was no air conditioning, no climate control,
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Speaker 2: so we didn't get a lot of good sampling from
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Speaker 2: those skulls. What we discovered again, when you when you
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Speaker 2: turn the skull over, we look where the foremen magnum was.
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Speaker 2: That's the place where the the spinal column attaches to
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Speaker 2: the to the brain and a human being, it's it's
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Speaker 2: pretty much dead center, which enables us to rock our
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Speaker 2: heads and move around, which it should be. And the
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Speaker 2: parocice skulls, it's all the way to the occipital, all
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Speaker 2: the way to the rear plate. So these might have
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Speaker 2: been long. Next, they're not giants, but they have genetic anomalies.
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Speaker 2: And in our film we have medical doctors, we have surgeons,
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Speaker 2: we have archaeologists, anthropologists, a whole multi discipline team of
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Speaker 2: people who are stating this must be genetic. Well, when
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Speaker 2: you turn that skull over, right where the foramen magam
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Speaker 2: is very thick bone. So what Mando and I would do.
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Speaker 2: We'd have a piece of clean white paper on the
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Speaker 2: mat like that and we would take a little dremal
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Speaker 2: tool and we would clean off that area. Then we
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Speaker 2: would take the paper and throw it away. We would
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Speaker 2: take compressed air and blow the area around us. Then
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Speaker 2: we would get we could take a drumal tool again
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Speaker 2: and go in and get fresh material from the foramen magnum.
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Speaker 2: So it's not surface stuff, it's it's down below the surface,
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Speaker 2: which should take and eliminate most, if not all, of
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Speaker 2: the so called contamination. Again, the findings were it showed
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Speaker 2: not all of them, but many of them showed an
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Speaker 2: Eastern European or originating in what we call the Promise Land.
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Speaker 1: These schools didn't come from Eastern Europe. They came from
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Speaker 1: South America.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, they came across the land Bridge. Okay,
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Speaker 2: so that rewrites history. Okay, but the academics don't like
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Speaker 2: that because it rewrites history, and they call us one
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Speaker 2: of the one of my favorite noom de plumes is
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Speaker 2: a pseudo archaeologist. Well, how is it pseudo archaeology when
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Speaker 2: I'm doing exactly everything by the book, I mean, the
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Speaker 2: whole all our technique was actually applauded by some archaeologists.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's pseudo because you don't have a degree, Bingo.
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Speaker 2: Well, Mondo does, and it's still it's still pseudo. But
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Speaker 2: I mean anything I don't know, I'll get a book,
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Speaker 2: I'll talk to people, I'll read. I'm a researcher and
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Speaker 2: and I think that what Mando, we were done a
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Speaker 2: great injustice because it was immediately dismissed by academia as well,
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Speaker 2: it's all contaminated. Well, it's not all contaminated. And we
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Speaker 2: proved that. If it was contaminated, as Mondo says, why
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Speaker 2: didn't we get nuclear One sample showed my DNA and
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Speaker 2: we immediately threw it out. So we're going like it
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Speaker 2: was the dremal. We've got this powder, we immediately do this.
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Speaker 2: We fool the thing like this, crease it and Chase
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Speaker 2: Klowsky would come up with a vial, not a small vial,
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Speaker 2: a fairly large vial, and we would Mando would just
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Speaker 2: tap it like this, ride in the vial, plugged, tagged
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Speaker 2: and bag done.
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Speaker 1: O'taminated.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean seriously, yeah, it's not contaminated. They just
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Speaker 2: don't want the results. And the results showed a Middle
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Speaker 2: Eastern slash Eastern European connection, which we write history because
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Speaker 2: that shouldn't be there.
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Speaker 1: Well, we just read Jude about the invaders who invaded
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Speaker 1: this planet in ages long long ago, and in Genesis
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Speaker 1: six there were giants in the earth in those days,
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Speaker 1: and also after that from the sons of God came
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Speaker 1: into the daughters of men who produced a half breed spawn,
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Speaker 1: half human and invading angel, which really sounds like sci fi,
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Speaker 1: but it's in the Bible. It's right there.
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Speaker 2: It does sound like sci fi, doesn't It does.
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Speaker 1: Invaders from from out space and they come and they
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Speaker 1: take wives to breed an army. You know, it's going
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Speaker 1: to destroy humanity and that's their goal.
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Speaker 2: That is their goal.
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Speaker 1: What a sci fi of narrative that would be. But
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Speaker 1: it's not sci fi. It is fact, and it comes
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Speaker 1: right out of Holy Scripture. And again we have we
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Speaker 1: read out of Jude a minute ago. You know, the
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Speaker 1: sons of God came in and came down and took
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Speaker 1: possession of this earth. And they were very clever by
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Speaker 1: the way. In the way that they did it, they
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Speaker 1: subverted the thinking of mankind. And by the way, that's
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Speaker 1: still there. It's still going on, still going on, is
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Speaker 1: upside down, especially in this day and age. And that's
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Speaker 1: where you come in on the trail of the Nephil,
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Speaker 1: because you're back tracking what happened as described in Genesis six, but.
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Speaker 2: I'm also linking it to what's going on in modernity.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned UAPs, you know, unidentified aerial phenomena.
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Speaker 1: Or anomal anomalist phenomena. You know, that is somebody should
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Speaker 1: write some music that goes with anomalous phenomena.
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Speaker 2: There you go, somebody probably is already working on that.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's done for anomalous phenomenon.
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Speaker 1: That's a method of telling someone something without really telling
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Speaker 1: them what you're telling them. This whole thing is a
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Speaker 1: study in how to obscure a subject.
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Speaker 2: And and and that's what they're doing.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: Recently the congressional hearing, they had a whistleblower on David
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Speaker 2: I think his first name is David David Grush. And
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Speaker 2: you know, I'm a student of body language like I
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Speaker 2: know you are, and you can tell a lot by
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Speaker 2: when people are. You know, if you ask me a
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Speaker 2: question and I'm like looking like this to a side,
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Speaker 2: I'm fidgeting in my chair, eye contact, those are all signs.
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Speaker 2: But if you're like this on the microphone and looking
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Speaker 2: at me, and you're earnest and you're like basically trying
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Speaker 2: to jump out of your chair to prove your point,
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Speaker 2: that's who Grush was. He's like leaning looking right at
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Speaker 2: Macy in the eye, telling her when she asks him
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Speaker 2: the loaded question. Are they're retrieved UFOs he says yes.
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Speaker 2: Were there were there any bodies in those crafts? He says, yes,
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Speaker 2: there were biologics. And she asked them the twenty four
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars question of sixty four thousand dollars question, were
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Speaker 2: the biologic human? And he says no, they were not human?
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Speaker 2: And my phone doesn't ring in the church ditherers and sleeps.
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Speaker 2: I mean, what do you do with information like that? Well,
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Speaker 2: we need to see the bodies. Well you saw the bodies. Yes.
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Speaker 2: A while back when Jimi Massan, with all due respect
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Speaker 2: to himI, released the paper mache goofy dummies, which are
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Speaker 2: a hoax. In my opinion, I believe that Heimi is
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Speaker 2: not trying to perpetrate the hoax. Jimi's a great guy.
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Speaker 2: I think he's been fooled like he was fooled with
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Speaker 2: the ferry. Now we proved when we got the ferry, himI.
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Speaker 2: And it cost us a lot of money to do this.
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Speaker 2: Richard Shovel, Hey, Richard Shaw and eye. We paid Javier
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Speaker 2: to come up drive the ferry, which was this little
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Speaker 2: demon like thing in a jar. It fooled DNA experts
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Speaker 2: in Mexico, it fooled us, It fulled veterinarians in Mexico,
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Speaker 2: and it wasn't until Javier brought it to us. We
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Speaker 2: had three veterinarians on a Saturday morning. We took the
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Speaker 2: thing out, we put it under the actual machine. They're
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Speaker 2: all going, wow, it looks real to me. It had
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Speaker 2: bird shot in it, which really made it look like
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Speaker 2: somebody shot this thing out of the sky. Well, after
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Speaker 2: about an hour, when the faery is on this little
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Speaker 2: plastic laboratory plate, I kind of go, what's that look like?
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Speaker 2: And I pick up this wooden thing with epoxy on
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Speaker 2: the end, which was the arm, and the veterinarian looks
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Speaker 2: in goes, this is a construct, and we go rushing back.
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Speaker 2: Take me when we look at the X rays and
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Speaker 2: sure enough, right here is where they placed this artificial
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Speaker 2: wood with the epoxy. So it was a construct. That's
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Speaker 2: real research. A couple of people said, well, well, you
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Speaker 2: didn't know. It fooled everybody. It fooled everybody, including the
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Speaker 2: three veterinarians on a Saturday morning. But real research is
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Speaker 2: out in the field, getting your you know, out of
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Speaker 2: a library as it were, and doing real research is
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Speaker 2: what we did. In the moment we found out that
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Speaker 2: it was fake I got on the phone. I called you,
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Speaker 2: I called Bob, I called Derek Gilbert. Stop the presses
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Speaker 2: because we did shows on it. It's a construct, it's fake.
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Speaker 2: And then we created a free film, The Anatomy of
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Speaker 2: a Hoax.
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Speaker 1: Now this brings a question to my mind. What's to
20:51
Speaker 1: be gained by hoaxing? Maybe you make a little money,
20:55
Speaker 1: Maybe you think you can sell this thing and make
20:57
Speaker 1: some money. That's one motivation, But there seems to be
21:01
Speaker 1: a larger motivation Imi my son's recent disclosure. What's the
21:06
Speaker 1: motivation there? Why try to hoax this event? We read
21:11
Speaker 1: the Bible. We know that there are invaders from another
21:15
Speaker 1: dimension who came and subverted mankind. It's all through the Bible.
21:19
Speaker 1: We wrestle not against principalities and powers, but against the
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Speaker 1: rulers of darkness. We know it from the New Testament.
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Speaker 1: We read from Jude how the angels invaded mankind and
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Speaker 1: how they're going to be judged. We've got that all
21:32
Speaker 1: down path right, and yet there's somebody out there constructing
21:38
Speaker 1: an alternate story. What's going on?
21:42
Speaker 2: When Grush stands up or sits down and says to
21:44
Speaker 2: representative Macy, we have biologics Okay, the phone doesn't ring,
21:49
Speaker 2: nothing happens. I mean, there's a little bit of a sturb,
21:50
Speaker 2: but not much. How many churches talked about that on
21:54
Speaker 2: a Sunday morning? Who knows. Jimi Masan stands up with
21:57
Speaker 2: the goofy, you know, fake aliens.
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Speaker 1: And me, yeah, and everybody's seen that on television.
22:03
Speaker 2: It's everywhere. It went viral. It went viral. And the
22:07
Speaker 2: X rays, well, the X rays. I have a radiologist
22:10
Speaker 2: who remains anonymous as most of these people who come
22:13
Speaker 2: forward because they're working and they can't associate themselves with me.
22:17
Speaker 2: And I understand why. It's okay, I get it. I'll
22:20
Speaker 2: be the fall guy. But this radiologist said he looked
22:23
Speaker 2: at the X rays. He said, you know, not on
22:26
Speaker 2: the record, because he's not personal. He said on the
22:28
Speaker 2: record to me that this is a construct. I looked
22:31
Speaker 2: at the X rays. These are pieces of other things
22:34
Speaker 2: slapped together, and that's exactly what the fairy was. I
22:37
Speaker 2: believe Heimi's intentions are real or or noble, let's put
22:42
Speaker 2: it that way. But what this does is it muddies
22:45
Speaker 2: the waters and it gets to the point where it
22:48
Speaker 2: sort of anesthetizes the public. Well, well, you know the
22:53
Speaker 2: guy cried wolf and who knows about grush? And uh,
22:57
Speaker 2: what's for dinner tonight? It takes the sting and it obfuscates,
23:02
Speaker 2: It muddies the waters and ways that when the real
23:05
Speaker 2: thing finally comes out, and I'll give you an example
23:07
Speaker 2: of that, when the real thing finally comes out, nobody cares.
23:10
Speaker 2: I was in the Catalina Island Museum years ago. I
23:14
Speaker 2: discovered a picture.
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Speaker 1: Off the California and a place that people have gone
23:20
Speaker 1: to as tourists for years. And you found I'm in.
23:24
Speaker 2: The archives and it cost me a thousand bucks to
23:27
Speaker 2: get into the archives. Everything was picked through. It was
23:30
Speaker 2: all catalog handwritten Manila envelopes, sealed pictures inside the minile
23:35
Speaker 2: what I mean by sealed wrapped in plastic for you know,
23:38
Speaker 2: preservation in the minila envelope. And they're bringing this stuff
23:42
Speaker 2: out and I'm looking at them and I find paydirt.
23:45
Speaker 2: It's the one with Rob Golodin leaning up against the
23:47
Speaker 2: shovel In there and sit to in front of him
23:50
Speaker 2: is a skeleton which is about nine feet because we
23:53
Speaker 2: had three nine.
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Speaker 1: This is a legitimate photograph from how long.
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Speaker 2: Ago, circa nineteen nineteen nineteen twenty.
24:01
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's it's old, it's it couldn't.
24:05
Speaker 2: Be the prominance is there, it's not a hoax. That's
24:07
Speaker 2: not a hoax, okay. And that photograph basically going viral.
24:12
Speaker 2: Here's the problem before that, from years and years and
24:17
Speaker 2: years of hoaxes on the Internet where you see a
24:20
Speaker 2: huge skull and a wheelbarrow, or you know someone unearthing
24:23
Speaker 2: this fifty foot or in India, those are all photoshop stuff.
24:27
Speaker 2: What does that do? Mondys and Waters? So when someone
24:30
Speaker 2: like me finds the real deal, nobody cares. Nobody cares. Well,
24:35
Speaker 2: we saw that out, it's probably just a hoax. Turned
24:38
Speaker 2: the page, What's for dinner? And that's that's what I
24:40
Speaker 2: take umbrage with because it's almost like it's a managed
24:43
Speaker 2: agenda to put people asleep to the point when you
24:47
Speaker 2: when you're finding because that rewrites history and it also
24:51
Speaker 2: validates and verifies Native American oral tradition that there were giants,
24:56
Speaker 2: and it's right out in Catalina. They they were from
24:58
Speaker 2: New Hampshire all the way across America's there's no doubt
25:01
Speaker 2: in my mind.
25:02
Speaker 1: So I believe the Bible implicitly, the Bible is divinely inspired,
25:08
Speaker 1: and of course any Christian believes that, and it is
25:13
Speaker 1: infallible when it comes to its basic grammar. It tells,
25:17
Speaker 1: it tells the truth, yes, and it tells a very
25:21
Speaker 1: very prolonged story through all of the books of the
25:24
Speaker 1: Old Testament about man's war against the fallen ones and
25:29
Speaker 1: against the giants. And that's the story of the Exodus
25:33
Speaker 1: and against the demonology of various kinds, and that you know,
25:38
Speaker 1: the major and the minor prophets, and you're coming to
25:40
Speaker 1: the New Testament and you're you're still dealing with demonology.
25:45
Speaker 1: And what I'm where I'm headed with this is one
25:49
Speaker 1: word propaganda. Satanic propaganda exactly what we're looking at. And
25:56
Speaker 1: I really do believe that that needs to be uh
25:59
Speaker 1: brought out in the open.
26:01
Speaker 2: Who controls the media? Why is it? Why is it
26:05
Speaker 2: that we get Why is it that the Grush story
26:08
Speaker 2: is buried? Because it was buried. It was I didn't
26:13
Speaker 2: see it on CNN, Fox, NBC, ABC buried.
26:17
Speaker 1: Review For those who might not know about that story.
26:19
Speaker 2: Grush is the whistleblower. He's in front of a special
26:23
Speaker 2: Select Committee in Congress to talk about UAPs, and he's
26:28
Speaker 2: being grilled and I'll show this that. I'll show this
26:31
Speaker 2: clip at the Prophecy Watches conference coming up. I'm going
26:33
Speaker 2: to show the clip and Representative Macy is asking him
26:38
Speaker 2: the questions we got sort of talked about this briefly before.
26:42
Speaker 2: Did you retrieve bodies from this crash? Des He goes, yes,
26:46
Speaker 2: were they human or non human? They were non human biologics.
26:49
Speaker 2: He says it right to the camera, and it's not covered.
26:52
Speaker 2: This is astounding information. Now, is Grush lying? Some people
26:57
Speaker 2: immediately said, well, he's just blah blah blah. He's under oath.
27:01
Speaker 2: He's under oath there. If he tries any funny business,
27:04
Speaker 2: he's in contempt. He can do jail time. And this
27:08
Speaker 2: is why he's so earnest and so honest. I believe
27:12
Speaker 2: not only whether or not he's seen them personally, other
27:16
Speaker 2: people have. And we've known this for researchers like myself
27:19
Speaker 2: and yourself. We've known about this for decades, for decades.
27:24
Speaker 2: In our film on Roswell, which is coming up, we
27:28
Speaker 2: interviewed a couple who they were both their pastors. They
27:32
Speaker 2: were involved in setting affairs right and getting all affairs
27:37
Speaker 2: for people who were at the end of life, and
27:39
Speaker 2: one such man was Colonel Hill. Colonel Hill was oss
27:43
Speaker 2: oss Is the precursors to the CIA. This guy was
27:46
Speaker 2: an interrogator of World War Two. He had like three
27:48
Speaker 2: different degrees and spoke I think five languages. A real
27:51
Speaker 2: smart guy. So he's a month away from passing and
27:55
Speaker 2: they've known him for two years and they're selling off
27:57
Speaker 2: his assets and distributing it. Asked that's according to his
28:01
Speaker 2: wicious and Carolyn. This is all on film now, not
28:04
Speaker 2: when Carolyn's talking to Colonel Hill, because by the time
28:07
Speaker 2: we got to Carolyn, you know, she volunteered the information.
28:11
Speaker 2: But I'm a student in the body language and they're pastors.
28:15
Speaker 2: This is not a ruse. And she says one day,
28:18
Speaker 2: I because I had known Colonel Hill now for two years,
28:20
Speaker 2: and I said what about Roswell? And he hung his
28:24
Speaker 2: head like this and let out a deep sigh and
28:26
Speaker 2: then looked at her and said what about it? And
28:29
Speaker 2: she said, was it a weather balloon? He said that
28:31
Speaker 2: it wasn't a weather balloon. And this is all in
28:33
Speaker 2: our Roswell film, which should be out this year, by
28:35
Speaker 2: the way, twenty twenty three, and I'm working on it
28:38
Speaker 2: right now. I'm actually in post production on it with
28:41
Speaker 2: my business partner, Gil Zimmerman. And what's interesting is she
28:46
Speaker 2: asked about the bodies and he said, yes, he was
28:51
Speaker 2: flown according to Carolyn, and it's a you know, these
28:55
Speaker 2: guys are the salt of the earth, Jim and Carolyn
28:57
Speaker 2: Ranking and just their stand up people. Colonel Hill was
29:01
Speaker 2: flown into Roswell within forty eight hours of the retrieved bodies.
29:08
Speaker 2: Within forty eight hours. He was trying to communicate with
29:12
Speaker 2: one of them who was still alive. He could not
29:14
Speaker 2: communicate it with it had six fingers. So we've known
29:18
Speaker 2: about this from Roswell, from the Roswell days, and it
29:22
Speaker 2: was all all the information was quashed. Jesse Marcel Senior
29:27
Speaker 2: was made to look like a moron confusing a weather
29:30
Speaker 2: balloon for a crashed material from another world. And this
29:34
Speaker 2: starts the decades of deliberate obfuscation and the dog implementation.
29:39
Speaker 1: And as you mentioned that, something comes into my mind.
29:41
Speaker 1: The decades decades now, there were, if you will, some
29:47
Speaker 1: UFO apparitions going all the way back to the beginning
29:51
Speaker 1: of the twentieth century. And you know, the weather balloons
29:56
Speaker 1: and the various kinds of zet little zeppelins or hydrogen
30:01
Speaker 1: balloons which turned out to be UFOs, and there are
30:07
Speaker 1: dozens of stories written about that. But as you move forward,
30:11
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about Bible history here to nineteen forty eight,
30:14
Speaker 1: which is statehood of Israel and the foundation of modern Israel,
30:18
Speaker 1: I think is a time marker. And immediately after that
30:23
Speaker 1: it's an explosion of UFO sightings. It's like the devil
30:27
Speaker 1: got his go ahead at that point in time, and
30:31
Speaker 1: we have events like Roswell and literally hundreds of other
30:39
Speaker 1: events that are not as famous as that. But you
30:41
Speaker 1: and I have done a little reading behind the scenes,
30:44
Speaker 1: and we understand that there has been a progressive unveiling
30:49
Speaker 1: of the UFO phenomenon from basically nineteen forty eight to
30:54
Speaker 1: the present time, and it's accelerating, it's exploding, and now
30:59
Speaker 1: it's reached the level of governmental meetings and announcements and
31:05
Speaker 1: a very slow unveiling of the backstory, which you and
31:09
Speaker 1: I know is very big. For example, technology, we've gotten
31:13
Speaker 1: a lot of technology. Corso's book, Yeah, may tell them
31:17
Speaker 1: about Corso.
31:19
Speaker 2: Philip Corso is a whistleblower, deathbed confession. He writes this book.
31:24
Speaker 2: He does a little circuit for maybe six eight months
31:26
Speaker 2: a year, basically the last year of his life. But
31:29
Speaker 2: he talks about handling the wreckage and these pieces of
31:34
Speaker 2: the records and handing them off to industry, private industry,
31:37
Speaker 2: where they are back engineered. Now, certain researchers disagree with him.
31:41
Speaker 2: I read Corso's book like you. I believe him. I
31:44
Speaker 2: this man is not this is Colonel Corso. Colonel yeah,
31:47
Speaker 2: Colonel flip cos he's well established. Yes, he's not creating
31:52
Speaker 2: a canard as it were, not concocting a story. It's
31:56
Speaker 2: part of the information. I think he felt people needed
31:59
Speaker 2: to hear it. Did he break a security clearances? Did
32:02
Speaker 2: he have permission? I don't know, But I do find
32:04
Speaker 2: it interesting that Corso's book precedes commanded David Fraber in
32:08
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen on Tucker Carlson Show only by a few years,
32:12
Speaker 2: only by a few years. And then Fraber says, whatever,
32:16
Speaker 2: this tic tac shape object that I saw and engage
32:19
Speaker 2: with in my F thirty five or whenever he was
32:22
Speaker 2: f eighteen, whenever he was flying, was not of this earth.
32:27
Speaker 1: Now you and I both believe that this is drawing
32:30
Speaker 1: to a conclusion, that is to say, it's headed somewhere.
32:34
Speaker 1: Absolutely from nineteen forty eight and Roswell to the present.
32:38
Speaker 1: You've seen a quickening in these apparitions of various kinds.
32:43
Speaker 1: And we're talking about events where people see large scale
32:50
Speaker 1: events involving maybe a number of very large and very distinct,
32:55
Speaker 1: distinctive UFOs. We have a number of stories, example of
33:01
Speaker 1: UFO kidnappings in which.
33:07
Speaker 2: Because that's exactly what they are, they are.
33:08
Speaker 1: Kidnapping kidnappings in which information is revealed. So we have
33:16
Speaker 1: the if you will, the dark Side is using a
33:18
Speaker 1: number of different techniques to unveil itself and to create
33:22
Speaker 1: a propaganda field. And I believe that at some point
33:26
Speaker 1: man is going to be convinced that these are our
33:29
Speaker 1: friends who have come to save us from a catastrophe.
33:34
Speaker 1: And I believe that that scenario is well on its way.
33:38
Speaker 2: What goes side by side along with this is the
33:43
Speaker 2: excuse for the disappearance of perhaps millions of people on
33:48
Speaker 2: the planet.
33:50
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and of course who would that be.
33:53
Speaker 2: There's a saying I coined a while ago, and I
33:56
Speaker 2: remember the first time I ever said it was right
33:58
Speaker 2: here on the Prophecy Watchers. And when I said it,
34:02
Speaker 2: I said, we go up, they show up. You went
34:04
Speaker 2: like this, and he goes, you need to copyright that.
34:07
Speaker 1: That's what the first words out of here about we
34:09
Speaker 1: go up, they show up, And let's just take a
34:14
Speaker 1: little brief pause here and talk. What do you mean
34:16
Speaker 1: we go up? Well, what is that?
34:19
Speaker 2: We are pre tribulation, pre millennial's, that's who we are.
34:24
Speaker 2: So if you're a millennial, then none of this makes
34:27
Speaker 2: sense to you at all. And if your if your
34:29
Speaker 2: post trip, it won't make any sense either. But I
34:32
Speaker 2: believe the correct biblical paradigm to hold on to is
34:37
Speaker 2: the pre millennial paradigm, pre tribulation rapture of a church,
34:41
Speaker 2: which is right there behold, I tell you a mystery.
34:43
Speaker 2: We shall not all sleep, but we shall be changed.
34:47
Speaker 2: In a moment or a twinkling of an eye, the
34:49
Speaker 2: trumpet will sound, and we will we will all be changed.
34:55
Speaker 2: Fifteen there you go.
34:56
Speaker 1: All writes about it. In fact, he writes about it
34:58
Speaker 1: in several places.
35:00
Speaker 2: So that's we're not making this up. No, we're not
35:03
Speaker 2: making this in our bibles. Catching away of the church
35:08
Speaker 2: well documented and very well testified among many many church
35:13
Speaker 2: members today, including as Liebrata would say, the early church
35:17
Speaker 2: fathers pretty cool stuff. And so this climactic event from
35:24
Speaker 2: our view as members of the Body of Christ, is
35:29
Speaker 2: going in one direction. From their view, the principalities and
35:32
Speaker 2: powers and rulers of Darkness, it's coming in another direction.
35:37
Speaker 2: But there is a climactic point where both meet and
35:41
Speaker 2: it's going to What happens after that is going to
35:44
Speaker 2: be cataclysmic, catastrophic, if you will. It'll change everything on
35:50
Speaker 2: the planet and we're not here to see it exactly,
35:53
Speaker 2: I believe, And this is piggybacks in some ways on
35:58
Speaker 2: the work of the late David Flynn who talked about
36:00
Speaker 2: this that we live in the modern era and in
36:05
Speaker 2: the last twenty years we have all been linked up
36:08
Speaker 2: via the satellite network, via the Internet, so we're all connected.
36:13
Speaker 2: An example of that would be when the Fukushima reactor,
36:17
Speaker 2: the tiliwave came into Fukushima. We watched that Tili wave
36:21
Speaker 2: come into Japan, come into the Fukushima Prefecture. We watched
36:25
Speaker 2: it in real time. The entire globe watched it in
36:29
Speaker 2: real time. So they have the power to light up
36:31
Speaker 2: the green anything they want to. What's been happening now
36:35
Speaker 2: in the wanning days of twenty twenty three, in the
36:37
Speaker 2: fall of twenty twenty three. Putin just just said recently
36:41
Speaker 2: that if Ukraine takes an inch of land, they will
36:45
Speaker 2: use tactical nukes. I mean, we are talking the unthinkable here.
36:49
Speaker 2: If you have any type of a newke that goes
36:51
Speaker 2: off anywhere on this planet at any time, that's going
36:55
Speaker 2: to light the grid up, and mankind will collectively experience
37:00
Speaker 2: is the greatest fear that we've ever experienced collectively. That's
37:05
Speaker 2: never happened in all of human history. So I maintain
37:09
Speaker 2: and this is this is a this is conjecture looking
37:13
Speaker 2: at where we are. It's conjecture. It's not it's not biblical,
37:17
Speaker 2: but yes it is biblical. It's tied into our biblical worldview.
37:22
Speaker 2: There's a nuclear event that goes off, and maybe it
37:25
Speaker 2: has something to do with Israel, I don't know. But
37:27
Speaker 2: right now the saber rattling is Ukraine and Russia. You
37:32
Speaker 2: get that, and that's going to create the greatest climate
37:35
Speaker 2: and fear of Guess who shows up? Guess who shows up?
37:38
Speaker 2: Are Space Brothers and Evslon Aradani to use your favorite planet.
37:43
Speaker 2: And the thing is we'll be taken out. So the
37:47
Speaker 2: rapture happens simultaneously. Whatever before this thing and our space
37:52
Speaker 2: brothers who were not as space brothers will say, well,
37:55
Speaker 2: these people just weren't ready for the paradigm shift and consciousness.
37:58
Speaker 2: So we've taken them to another planet so they can
38:01
Speaker 2: evolve spiritually until they're ready for this, because it's just
38:05
Speaker 2: it's too much. They were fundamental in their belief and
38:07
Speaker 2: the dark side will be unveiled, and of course as
38:11
Speaker 2: our saviors, though, the dark side will be unvailed as
38:14
Speaker 2: our savers.
38:15
Speaker 1: As our saviors, and of course that is documented in
38:18
Speaker 1: the Book of Revelation, yes, final book of the Bible.
38:22
Speaker 1: You have a number of catastrophic events, and you have
38:26
Speaker 1: a number of geophysical events that are catastrophic, many of
38:33
Speaker 1: which resemble nuclear warfare. By the way, you've read the
38:37
Speaker 1: Book of Revelation, and so I think that your scenario
38:40
Speaker 1: is in the offing. As we speak. There's a destabilization
38:46
Speaker 1: going on, and human beings don't want to destroy themselves.
38:51
Speaker 1: If you ask a human being, you know, do you
38:53
Speaker 1: want to destroy yourself and your family?
38:55
Speaker 2: No?
38:55
Speaker 1: No, And then you say, well, why are you building
38:57
Speaker 1: all those nuclear weapons? Because one goes off and somebody
39:02
Speaker 1: else pulls the plug on another one, and uh oh,
39:07
Speaker 1: two have gone off, and now somebody else gets really offended,
39:11
Speaker 1: and three go off, and the first thing you know,
39:13
Speaker 1: you've got a real dark situation which resembles what we
39:18
Speaker 1: see described in the Book of Revelation. So we are
39:23
Speaker 1: living in perilous times.
39:25
Speaker 2: And all this points to the fact that Jesus has
39:29
Speaker 2: to be coming soon. He's going to come for his bride.
39:32
Speaker 2: We go up, they show up. He takes us out
39:35
Speaker 2: because we're not appointed to wrath. And for those of you,
39:39
Speaker 2: you know out there who believe that we are, you know,
39:42
Speaker 2: more power to you. But we're not appointed to wrath.
39:44
Speaker 2: And I go on that we're the bride of Christ.
39:47
Speaker 2: Are we perfect?
39:47
Speaker 1: No?
39:48
Speaker 2: And then there's the other side where you know, we
39:50
Speaker 2: have to bring in the kingdom. We have to work
39:52
Speaker 2: for it, you know, the millennial position. Things are just
39:56
Speaker 2: going to get better. We are in the in the
39:58
Speaker 2: golden age of the If this is it, I'll say,
40:01
Speaker 2: am I going to become a Buddhist for crying out loud?
40:04
Speaker 2: Because what's what's happening is what we read. Perilous times
40:08
Speaker 2: are here. As as as Timothy says, no this in
40:11
Speaker 2: the last Day's Parlo, staves will come, men will be
40:13
Speaker 2: lovers of themselves, lovers of money, bingo. Here we are,
40:16
Speaker 2: we're in and you taught me this. I I'll butcher
40:19
Speaker 2: the word in Greek, butlaposchlapos. I totally butchered it. But
40:25
Speaker 2: but it means, you know, unbridled insanity, essentially, And this
40:28
Speaker 2: is where we are. Just look at the six o'clock news.
40:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, perilous times shall come. And that Greek word is holopas,
40:35
Speaker 1: thank you, But but it means raging insanity. In other words,
40:42
Speaker 1: nothing makes any sense. Things are so disconnected, and here
40:45
Speaker 1: we are that and we're right on the verge of that.
40:49
Speaker 1: I think and it and it gives me no pleasure
40:52
Speaker 1: to say that. By the way, Yeah, I would love
40:55
Speaker 1: a nice, peaceful world, you know.
40:57
Speaker 2: But we're not here. We're not gonna nice peaceful world.
41:01
Speaker 2: We're in and we're in a time of raging insanity.
41:04
Speaker 2: Just look around the globe. It's I've never seen anything
41:08
Speaker 2: like it.
41:09
Speaker 1: And the dark side is taking advantage again. I go
41:13
Speaker 1: back to Ephesian six, and we are urged to put
41:17
Speaker 1: on the whole armor of God that we may be
41:21
Speaker 1: able to stand withstand the wiles of the devil. And
41:25
Speaker 1: of course, the wiles of the devil. Make a list
41:27
Speaker 1: as long as your arm. But longer you read about
41:31
Speaker 1: him in the Old Testament, you read about him in
41:33
Speaker 1: the New Testament. But what you're really reading about is
41:37
Speaker 1: a surreptitious effort on Satan's part to destabilize the world
41:43
Speaker 1: because he knows that if he can destabilize it, he
41:47
Speaker 1: can create a situation that he might rush in and
41:51
Speaker 1: find some advantage for himself and others like him. And
41:55
Speaker 1: I think that's what's going on.
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Speaker 2: And I agree, and and and piggybacked on top of that,
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Speaker 2: he's trying to steal as many people as you can
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Speaker 2: away from eternal life. Remember that the dragon is the
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Speaker 2: one who brought death into this world. That's his calling
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Speaker 2: card death.
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Speaker 1: So and let's talk for a minute about global communications.
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Speaker 1: It's unbelievably efficient today, thousands of satellites in orbit, global television,
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Speaker 1: global communication. And I've got one right here on my side.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, but everywhere I go,
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Speaker 1: people are are holding one of these up everywhere, and
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Speaker 1: they're walking across go to the airport, across the street
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Speaker 1: in heavy traffic. This is the posture. You're looking at
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Speaker 1: your phone and not the traffic. But except I said phone. Oops,
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Speaker 1: this is not a phone. This is a global communicator
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Speaker 1: on several different levels, all of which I think has
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Speaker 1: been engineered to ultimately control mankind. Everybody's heard about the
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Speaker 1: mark of the beast. You know what's the mark of
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Speaker 1: the beast. It's just a simple little mark that you
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Speaker 1: get on your hand, and it says that you belong
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Speaker 1: to a certain organization. Shall we say, the initials of
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Speaker 1: which are six sixty six. You belong to that organization,
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Speaker 1: and from this point on you're more or less under
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Speaker 1: the control of that organization on a global basis. And
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Speaker 1: here we have the technology. We've gone global, but nobody
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Speaker 1: talks about it. Anybody in the world can take a
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Speaker 1: picture and send it to anybody else in the whole
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Speaker 1: world unheard of, or a high diff high res motion picture.
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Speaker 1: Maybe it's fifteen seconds long. You send it to a
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Speaker 1: friend over in Japan or in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Wherever does that work?
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Speaker 1: And the Bible very well describes a global system of that.
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Speaker 2: And that's where we are. We're living in this right now.
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Speaker 2: Memo run too, and for over the face of the earth,
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Speaker 2: knowledge will increase. We are here.
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Speaker 1: We knowledge has increased, and it increases experience. In fact,
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Speaker 1: have you ever heard of AI? Of course you have.
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Speaker 1: We don't have time to start that conversation, but we
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Speaker 1: have arrived there, you know, after talking.
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Speaker 2: For honestly, that terrifies me.
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Speaker 1: It terrifies me.
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Speaker 2: Terrifies what's in that thing?
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Speaker 1: And who's behind behind the intelligence.
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Speaker 2: Who's telling us what? And they don't know? You know.
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Speaker 1: There's something reassuring in the Bible about that, and that
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Speaker 1: is the simple statement that we have the mind of Christ.
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Speaker 1: And I praise the Lord for that, because the mind
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Speaker 1: of Christ is for those who believe. But there's another
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Speaker 1: mind who's going to control the entire world, and that's
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Speaker 1: already in place. And I think that from nineteen forty
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Speaker 1: eight to the present, the whole world of eupology and
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Speaker 1: crashed euphology and propagandistic euthology has one basic motive, and
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Speaker 1: that's to control the planet, to create a propaganda wave
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Speaker 1: that the good guys are here to save us, and
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Speaker 1: all we have to do is wait around and they
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Speaker 1: will big lie.
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Speaker 2: That's where we're here. Remember Second Tisalonians. Because they did
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Speaker 2: not believe the truth God sends them, he allows the
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Speaker 2: strong delusion and this is where we are. He allows it,
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Speaker 2: you know, And.
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Speaker 1: I think that's a good way to close. We've arrived
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Speaker 1: at the period the Bible refers to with those two
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Speaker 1: words strong delusion. You're not fooled. I'm not fooled.
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Speaker 2: Even the elect would be deceived if that were possible.
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Speaker 2: We're the elect and we're not fooled. We're not deceive.
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Speaker 2: Are not always great to talk to your honor's mind? Sir?
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Speaker 2: Can I tell you something? I love this format