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Furness Show 11-5: Stewart Mandel and Mike Holmgren · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now from the Star Rentals Sports to Jordan ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three KJRFM sports headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Headlin's brought to you by Frostproit cors I Choose Chill.
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks made some roster moves today ahead of the game
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday against the Arizona Cardinals. Safety Jerk Reid was waived.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll end up on the practice squad once
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  Speaker 2: he clears waivers tomorrow. That makes room for wide receiver
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  Speaker 2: Rashid Shaheed. They also signed wide receiver mac to Lean
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  Speaker 2: to the practice squad. What does that mean? I'll explain
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  Speaker 2: in a second, But it's actually good news, to be
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  Speaker 2: honest with you. We'll get to that second. Jacoby Brissett.
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  Speaker 2: We'll start for the Cardinals against the Seahawks this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: We told you that yesterday. But why is that significant? Well,
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  Speaker 2: Kyler Murray has now been placed on the injured reserve
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  Speaker 2: list for the Arizona Cardinals. That thing ain't working out.
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  Speaker 2: Breaking news, I know. Sale crack and take on the
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  Speaker 2: Sharks tonight. San Jose Maclin celebrating with the bright young
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  Speaker 2: Stars in the NHL the twenty twenty four first overall
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  Speaker 2: draft pick. He's had a decent year. Eighteen points in
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  Speaker 2: eleven games. Yeah that's okay. Six or three pre game
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  Speaker 2: seven o'clock puck drop right here in your home for
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  Speaker 2: the cracket Nie three point three. KJRFM announce their spring
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  Speaker 2: trending schedule. Play god, how are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 3: Didn't it just end? Did baseball just end?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 5: I mean it starts on February.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty February see thirty one games, thirty two days, February twentie.
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  Speaker 2: If it's the first game against sand Diego.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe they're following in the NFL's footsteps of making a
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  Speaker 5: year round situation. Hey, we haven't had year round sometimes America,
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  Speaker 5: we have.
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  Speaker 2: Not had a year round. We've been lucky to get
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  Speaker 2: through August most time. So we'll take it when we can.
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  Speaker 2: A Nine semi finalists have been named in the coaching
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  Speaker 2: category for the Hall of Fame class. Yes, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Mikelngrin's one of them. But Bill Belichick is eailible for
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  Speaker 2: this for the first time this year. Only when coach
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  Speaker 2: can go in a year and so we kind of
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  Speaker 2: know that is the path for Washington. As simple as
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  Speaker 2: going ten and two. Now, I say, as simple to
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  Speaker 2: go ten and two, you're going to be well assuming
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  Speaker 2: that's assuming you beat Oregon to get to ten and two,
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  Speaker 2: not like not like lose to somebody else along the way,
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  Speaker 2: one of the slappies. You play Wisconsin, Purdue or UCLA
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  Speaker 2: and then beat Oregon, that ten and two would be
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  Speaker 2: a different type of ten and two. Ten and two
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  Speaker 2: being win three, then beat Oregon ten and two. Are
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  Speaker 2: you in for sure? Last Mandel If that's the case.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up at one twenty, I'll get a Miami question
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  Speaker 2: in for MJ and the Midday as well. He's all
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  Speaker 2: jacked up about his Hurricanes. ACC big losers in the
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  Speaker 2: first College Football Playoff rankings. I mean more than more
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  Speaker 2: than likely the ACC, an alleged Power five conference Power
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  Speaker 2: four conference, would be a one bid league for the
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  Speaker 2: College Football Playoff. You know who else gets one bid?
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  Speaker 2: The Group of four or group of five. Interesting, Now
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  Speaker 2: there's a path to get other teams in there, but
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  Speaker 2: everyone have to finish with two losses and then that's
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  Speaker 2: coming to the expense of somebody else. The Big Ten
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  Speaker 2: probably looking at a three bid conference. The SEC gets
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  Speaker 2: all the rest plus Notre Dame. That's how it works.
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  Speaker 2: So the more things change, the more things. They stay
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  Speaker 2: the same, but we'll talk to Mandel College football coming
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  Speaker 2: up at one twenty air week. We visit always like
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  Speaker 2: doing that with him daily power play at one five
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  Speaker 2: Big one tonight for the Crack and they continue to
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  Speaker 2: try to stay unbeaten at home this year. It is
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  Speaker 2: a hell of a start, best starting franchise history. The
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  Speaker 2: problem is our our buddy Rory out here, sales guy Rory.
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  Speaker 2: You know him, right, Jess? You have you met sales
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  Speaker 2: guy Rory? Do I introduce you to him? I mean, okay,
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  Speaker 2: you know who he is?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, are you kidding me? He's amazing to us.
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  Speaker 2: No, he's a great guy. Roy says. Is everybody in
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  Speaker 2: the Western Conference the NHL good this year? I'm like, yeah, unfortunately, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: the answer is yes. Like the Western Conference one through
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  Speaker 2: sixteen is really good. And San Jose used to be
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  Speaker 2: the doormat. They're pretty good. They're decent. They got two
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  Speaker 2: bright young stars Will Smith and Celebrity you'll see tonight
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  Speaker 2: at the game. You can hear it here in KJR.
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  Speaker 2: You can watch it. It's actually on King tonight too.
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  Speaker 2: It's a King game. So we had to put the
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  Speaker 2: better suit on today because it's a bigger game. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, so it's everyone's good, big game tonight, and
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  Speaker 2: then they go on the road for two at Saint
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  Speaker 2: Louis out Dallas on Saturday Sunday. So it just continues
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  Speaker 2: this eighty two game marathon of a schedule the NHL.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll get to that. Let's get to the Seahawk
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  Speaker 2: news real quick before we get to Mandel. So Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald spoke just a short time ago. Everything's kind of
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  Speaker 2: pushed back because of the late game on Sunday. They
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  Speaker 2: got to a little different schedule this week. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of times we'll have a player on Wednesdays. We're not
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  Speaker 2: gonna do that today, just because everything was later. Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald just finished speaking a few minutes ago. Big thing
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  Speaker 2: he said, and I think this is the key, and
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned the roster move they made. This is a
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  Speaker 2: This is really good news for the Seahawks because when
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  Speaker 2: they traded for Rashid Shaheed, a lot of folks were wondering, Uh, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you start start connecting some dots. Like I know, we're
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  Speaker 2: in sports radio and sports media. We don't always like
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  Speaker 2: to use like common sense, not like one of our fortes,
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  Speaker 2: not our strong suit is not common sense. But if
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  Speaker 2: you use common sense, you're like, wait a second, hmm,
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  Speaker 2: she heed coming in. Cup missed the last game. That's
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  Speaker 2: bad news. That's really bad news. Both Cooper Cup and
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  Speaker 2: Ernest Jones will do something at practice today. Now it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be kind of a walk through, so a limited practice.
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  Speaker 2: My guess is, judging from the fact that the weather's
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  Speaker 2: not great and they're playing on turf, they'll be indoors.
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  Speaker 2: I think they did everything. I'm guessing most of everything
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  Speaker 2: they did last week is on grass because they played
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  Speaker 2: on alleged grass in Washington, although it's not really grass there.
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  Speaker 2: It's just painted sand, but it's awful. It's but I
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  Speaker 2: think they're gonna be insight. So the fact that those
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  Speaker 2: two guys are doing something, Cooper Cup specifically, but also
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  Speaker 2: Ernest Jones. They'll practice to some varying degrees today we
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  Speaker 2: used to walk through. That's a really good sign. And
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  Speaker 2: the fact that they cut Jerrick Reid and brought another
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  Speaker 2: receiver in on the practice squad probably a good thing
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  Speaker 2: as well. That means that Cupp and Jones are obviously
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  Speaker 2: not headed to the practice squad, at least not right now,
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  Speaker 2: which is very very good, very good news. Rashid shi
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  Speaker 2: Heat spoke to the media today paraphrasing him, but just
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  Speaker 2: kind of give you the summary. The big thing is
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  Speaker 2: he says he's not only jack to be here now,
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  Speaker 2: he wants to be here in the future. Remember he's
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  Speaker 2: on expiring contract.
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  Speaker 5: So he's good to hear his first day well.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sure when the trade was made. Sometimes players
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  Speaker 2: are consulted, right and sometimes not. Sometimes they're kind of
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  Speaker 2: giving a heads up. I'm there was probably a pretty
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  Speaker 2: decent market for his services out there.
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  Speaker 3: This is a place.
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  Speaker 2: Under Mike McDonald, with the culture they run right now,
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  Speaker 2: with the facilities, how they treat the players that guys
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  Speaker 2: want to come to, players talk around the league. They
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  Speaker 2: know what's going on, they know what everything's about.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: They're not going to resign him tomorrow to a long
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  Speaker 2: term extension anything like that. I'm sure they're going to
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  Speaker 2: treat it just like Leonard Williams three years ago, and
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  Speaker 2: they'll treat it like that. They'll treat it like Ernest
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  Speaker 2: Jones last year. Let's let's see what we've got. You're
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  Speaker 2: in our building, and if it's a fit on the field,
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  Speaker 2: off the field, in the in the rooms everything else. Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 2: why wouldn't you resign them? Why wouldn't you bring this
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  Speaker 2: guy back? And all of a sudden, you've got to
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  Speaker 2: because I think Cooper Cup's probably won and done.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, considering his age, experience and injury history, I
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  Speaker 5: would say that.
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  Speaker 2: That tracks maybe not maybe he's your number four guy.
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  Speaker 2: Next year.
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  Speaker 5: It'd be awesome.
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  Speaker 2: He'd be incredible number four. Sorry, Jake Bobo, but that
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  Speaker 2: would be a great number four looking ahead, but this
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  Speaker 2: is this year. But yeah, they're gonna look and see
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  Speaker 2: what this guy has and bring it up. But the
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  Speaker 2: fact that he's gonna he wants to be here, you
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  Speaker 2: like hearing that. That's a good thing. So anyway, that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of the news from the Seahawks today. Jacobe Prisett.
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  Speaker 2: We knew yesterday wasn't was gonna start, and I think
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  Speaker 2: kind of like, what, well, really are we still gonna
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  Speaker 2: go down that road? You're coming off a big win
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  Speaker 2: and everything else. Well, Kyler Murray's not working out and
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  Speaker 2: that's obvious. And then on top of that, he's now
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  Speaker 2: hurt enough for they're gonna put him on injured list,
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  Speaker 2: so he'll be out for the next few weeks. Their
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  Speaker 2: season isn't entirely lost in Arizona, but it's kind of lost.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think four teams in the same division are
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  Speaker 2: gonna make the playoffs, so.
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  Speaker 5: They're definitely stumbing downhill right now.
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  Speaker 2: They are they are. It's too bad too, because Gannon's
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  Speaker 2: a good coach man. There's a buy in factor there
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  Speaker 2: with them. I I like watching them play. They play hard.
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  Speaker 2: They may not have the best talent, they may they
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  Speaker 2: got some issues. Marvin Harrison hasn't proven to be what
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  Speaker 2: they thought he would be necessarily things like that, and
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  Speaker 2: Kyler they don't have a quarterback because Kyler ain't it.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty obvious that he ain't it. But they play hard.
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  Speaker 2: For Gannon, man, they play hard, and I had noticed
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  Speaker 2: that his first year when we were down there covering
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  Speaker 2: the games. Last game I covered actually for Fox, and
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  Speaker 2: I remember watching that thing thinking Seale was just gonna roll.
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  Speaker 2: They played hard, but we go back. I was just
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  Speaker 2: talking about that with MG in the midday a minute ago.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he used the twenty twelve comparison with the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 2: and I pointed out to this to him. I use
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  Speaker 2: that a lot. I used twenty twelve a lot over
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  Speaker 2: the years after twenty twelve, and really kind of after
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  Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, Like I think I probably threw out a
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  Speaker 2: twenty twelve reference, and every year from twenty nineteen on
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  Speaker 2: through Pete's last year here ah kind of feels like
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  Speaker 2: they're they're at the start of something new. They probably weren't.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously they weren't because it didn't come to fruition. But
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  Speaker 2: maybe the big reason was is that twenty twelve was
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  Speaker 2: Pete's second year, third year, sorry it was this third year.
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  Speaker 2: But by then they'd flushed the roster. Remember they had
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  Speaker 2: made over three hundred roster moves over those first couple
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  Speaker 2: of years, and they'd flushed things out, but they had
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  Speaker 2: created a culture, They had created something inside that building.
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  Speaker 2: And MJ were and I were talking about that, and
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  Speaker 2: he said he brought up the Jered Reid conversation I
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  Speaker 2: had not last week with Jen Reid, but the Jener
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  Speaker 2: Reid conversation we had last spring. And when I asked
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  Speaker 2: Jaron Reid, I said, why are you here not? Why
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  Speaker 2: are you here with the Seahawks. Why are you here
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  Speaker 2: in a non mandatory ota like you're eleven years in dude,
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  Speaker 2: Like you don't have to be here. Yeah, and he says,
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  Speaker 2: because I'm that's my job, and we're there. Was a
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  Speaker 2: complete and total buy in. And I remember the the
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  Speaker 2: the non mandatory ota, specifically seeing DeMarcus Lawrence even when
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  Speaker 2: he was banged up a little bit, seeing Chenna even
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  Speaker 2: though he couldn't practice out there, Jaron Reid out there,
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  Speaker 2: Leonard Williams out there, all those guys out there. The
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  Speaker 2: buy in was there. That's what happened in twenty twelve
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  Speaker 2: and thirteen and fourteen. And the buy in and the
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  Speaker 2: culture is huge. If you don't have that, you don't
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  Speaker 2: have anything. And I bring up that because one of
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  Speaker 2: the things that helped and probably why we didn't see
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  Speaker 2: twenty twelve all over again Russ in his waiting years
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  Speaker 2: here in Seattle and then after the first year of Gino,
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  Speaker 2: those guys weren't buying in. They weren't buying into what
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  Speaker 2: Pete was doing, and GINO didn't buy into what Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald was doing. Sam donald has starts right there, starts
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  Speaker 2: right there. The bien has to start with your veterans
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  Speaker 2: on the defensive side and your quarterback. They don't have
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  Speaker 2: that in Arizona, obviously, with Kyler, but they have it
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  Speaker 2: here in Seattle with Sam Darnold. So if you want
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  Speaker 2: to make the twenty twelve comparisons, I'll dance with you there.
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  Speaker 2: Because of Sam Donald, and I can make the argument
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  Speaker 2: that even though Russ was a rookie in twenty twelve,
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  Speaker 2: and Sam's is a veteran, still a younger veteran, not
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  Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of tread on those tires.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Sat was a backup in San Francisco. I'll
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  Speaker 2: dance with you there. I'll dance with you there, all right.
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  Speaker 2: Fournite four to five one. That is the text line,
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  Speaker 2: four nine, four to five one. We'll take a break,
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  Speaker 2: come back talk some college football. We got our guy,
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  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandel. College football playoff rankings are out, Husky fans,
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  Speaker 2: you want to take a listen to this Coming up next.
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  Speaker 2: Oh Man, here we go Stuart Mandel weekly visit, talking
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  Speaker 2: all things college football. And we got a lot to
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  Speaker 2: get to today, including I'm gonna weave this in here
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  Speaker 2: at some point. How does Wazoo figure into the college
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  Speaker 2: football playoff scenario? Not for them to get in Oregon State,
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  Speaker 2: thanks rob Aky. No no, but there's a couple of
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  Speaker 2: teams that are probably hoping for some success in their
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  Speaker 2: final couple of games. We'll get to that in a second. Stewart,
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  Speaker 2: First of all, how are you, my friend? I'm good,
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. College football playoff rankings came out. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: bury that lead for a second. I want to I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna get to that in a heartbeat. Because you had
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  Speaker 2: something in your mail bag this week and I it's
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  Speaker 2: it's interesting. Jason Dee is a guy that sent it
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  Speaker 2: to you, and I was thinking the same thing as
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  Speaker 2: a college football fan, as someone who you know, frankly
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  Speaker 2: watches a lot of it. Uh, and for a variety
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  Speaker 2: of reasons. But and then also honestly, like sometimes has
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  Speaker 2: to be balance it with my other job doing hockey
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  Speaker 2: for the Kraken, and you know what games am I
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  Speaker 2: going to tape and watch later? And so on and
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  Speaker 2: so forth. And Jason Dee asked you about the Big
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  Speaker 2: Ten and does it have an inventory problem? And I thought, man,
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  Speaker 2: that resonates. And what he's kind of referring to is
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  Speaker 2: the ratings. Yes, they're good, but they're not what they
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  Speaker 2: what I think they would want them to be. If
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  Speaker 2: you're Abe, if you're a CBS right and so forth,
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  Speaker 2: and proud of it is because is it not, Stuart,
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  Speaker 2: They're so big now, I mean Oregon and Rutgers, sorry, Washington's.
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  Speaker 2: Washington's remaining schedule is abysmal until they get to Oregon,
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  Speaker 2: Like none of those games we care about. Uh So,
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  Speaker 2: so tell me this, what is the big is the
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  Speaker 2: Big Ten? I mean, they probably don't care, but do
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  Speaker 2: they have a problem at all with with too many teams?
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  Speaker 6: I think they have inadvertently diluted their products, which probably
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  Speaker 6: didn't seem you know, possible at the time a couple
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  Speaker 6: of years ago. It's like, oh my gosh, we're adding USC,
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  Speaker 6: we're adding Oregon. Washington was coming off of appearance in
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  Speaker 6: the National title game. This is great, but obviously they
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  Speaker 6: don't all play each other for one thing. And then
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  Speaker 6: I think a big difference between the Big Time and
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  Speaker 6: the SEC expansions is thou and Texas are pretty natural
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  Speaker 6: fits in that conference. It only took me into the
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  Speaker 6: second maybe last year there was some like, oh, I
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  Speaker 6: can't believe Texas is playing this, but now it just
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  Speaker 6: seems totally natural to me. Still seems very unnatural when
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  Speaker 6: you get to a Saturday and it's like, oh, big
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  Speaker 6: game on CBS this week it's you know, Oregon against Wisconsin,
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  Speaker 6: the USC against Maryland, Like they're just not games you're
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  Speaker 6: gonna be like, oh yeah, I definitely need to watch that.
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  Speaker 6: Whereas when these teams are with their West Coast schools
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  Speaker 6: like Oregon Washington State, it doesn't seem to matter. It
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  Speaker 6: doesn't matter to me whether Washington State's good not good
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  Speaker 6: compared to Producer or something. I just would other see
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  Speaker 6: them play their natural rival. So I think this year
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  Speaker 6: has been kind of a perfect storm for the Big Ten,
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  Speaker 6: where it's extremely top heavy. Penn State was supposed to
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  Speaker 6: be one of your blockbuster teams. This year they obviously
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  Speaker 6: fell apart, So yeah, they just haven't the discrepancy between
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  Speaker 6: when you see here's the SEC triple header on ABC
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  Speaker 6: this week and they're all top twenty five games, you know,
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  Speaker 6: off the top ten games, and then here's the Fox, CBS,
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  Speaker 6: NBC Big Ten lineup, and you're like, really, that's what
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  Speaker 6: they're paying for. And so we might turn out just
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  Speaker 6: to be a one off thing. But right now, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: considering that we often grouped those two teams together, I mean, sorry,
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  Speaker 6: those two conferences together as like the Power Too. It's
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  Speaker 6: not that's not how has it played out either on
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  Speaker 6: the field or in the TV ratings this year.
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  Speaker 2: I would just even go to the point of and
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  Speaker 2: I guess this is kind of the part I like
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  Speaker 2: when they put those four teams into the Big Ten,
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: and we understand why, big markets and big brands and
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: all that stuff, but like Washington going two years without
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: playing USC, what the hell like this? It makes no sense?
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: And yeah, really stupid. And I know maybe it's a
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: and you can't predict who's going to be good and
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: who's not right, you can't you can't really do that.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, like you're playing Purdue in
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin and Rutgers and Maryland as opposed to playing USC
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: in one of those games. I mean, if you're trying
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: because if we're being honest, all these conferences are trying
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: to do is sell TV, avenue, revenue and and all that. Right,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: wouldn't those all be more comp wouldn't Washington and USC
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: be more complaint than any of those games?
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: I think so they might say, oh, we have to
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: keep the schedules balanced and competitive integrity and blah blah blah.
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: But from a tea product TV product standpoint, me eight, Box, AVYT,
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: Foxy differently, if you're paying over a billion dollars to
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: show these games a year, it's crazy. And then the
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: ratings come out, it's like, gosh, they're getting there. Cox
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: cleaned by ABC.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Stuart Maandel join us from The Athletic the Audible Podcast. Okay,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: let's get to the college football playoffrank because it came
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: out yesterday. I'm sure every Husky fan knows that they
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: are ranked number twenty three. We'll get to that in
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: just a couple of seconds. Ohio State number one, Indiana,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Texas A and m Alabama Georgia Ole miss BYU Texas Tech,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Oregon Notre Dame Texas. I stop at eleven because eleven
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: of those teams, eleven teams will get in, plus a
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: group of five school So let's go through just kind
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: of some of the wins in the night.
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: Now the ACC is ranked outside the top twelve.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: As well, right now ten ten even better. I was
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: going to go down the ACC road just for a second,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: because the highest ACC team is Virginia at fourteen Louisville
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: at fifteen.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: ACC based on what.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Came out yesterday and what we kind of know in
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: the final four weeks of the season, ACC, can we
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: safely say is a one bid conference.
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: Almost? I think it's almost close to that. I mean
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: the wrinkle would be, I mean, first of all, there's
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: five or six teams that can still get into the
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: ACC title game. You can come down some crazy tie rakers.
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: So for example, if Miami ends up winning out in
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: this ten and two but misses out in the championship game,
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: you know, by then I would think they'd be in
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: the mix for an at large Perth and then the
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: other one that's kind of obvious, Georgia Tech plays Georgia
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: at the end of the year. So if they beat Georgia,
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: they become very attractive as in that large candidate.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: But that's it.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: That's basically their only hope at this point.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Big twelve kind of a winner yesterday. They've got two
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: teams inside that top ten bubble.
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: That you can see the committee as respect for those
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: top three teams in the Big twelve, especially Utah who's
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: not probably not going to make the playoffs but is
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: already up to thirteen, which of course helps YU and
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: Texas Texas they both beat Utah. There's a very I
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: think everybody assumed all the Big twelve is only gonna
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: be a one bid league. Well, then you see those
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: two teams rank safely in the top ten. They're going
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: to play each other this weekend, and then they may
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: play each other again in the conference championship game. So
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: if they were to split those games, then I would
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: think they have a very good chance of getting both
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: of them in.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandel joining US. Is there a path for Utah
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: to get in? Yeah?
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: I think the path is anarchic. First of all, you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: is there they're just it just you know, in these
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: big conferences, and we talk about in balanced schedules. We
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: often talked about the teams that got it easy. Just
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: bad luck for Utah that they got both of those
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: two top ten teams and they lost. The computers say,
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: Utah is a top ten playoff caliber team, but what
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: are you supposed to do if you lose your two
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: games where you had the best chance to get a
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: big resume win. So it's possible, but it feels to
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: me like they're kind of boxed out right now unless
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: they can kind of backdoor their way into the conference
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: championship games.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Stuart, it feels as if, and maybe I'm wrong here,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: but just when I look at this on the surface,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: it does appear that, you know, there's a lot of
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: different metrics that we can look at, and that the
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: committee i'm sure does look at. Did strength of schedule
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: in this for in these first rankings matter or more?
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Or did did wins and losses and maybe specifically losses
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: that right hand column matter more? What do you think
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: they put more at it? It appears to me that
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: that losing games meant more than than you know, actual
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: strength of schedule in this first round.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: It's always you know the thing about polls, right, It's
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: always been grouped by the tiers are the group by
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: a number of losses, and that has become a that
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: was a big criticism at the end of last year
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: from the SEC where they're saying, hey, our three lost
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: teams are better a year or two off teams, which
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: I did not agree with last year. But I talked
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: in the mailbag about Texas. You know, there you could
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: have a situation where Texas, if you know, they have
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: two games coming up against top five teams Georgia and
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: Texas A and M, and if they win one of
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: those and lose the other, you look at what that
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: profile would look like. They'd be nine to three, they
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: would have three at least top twenty five, possibly top
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: fifteen wins. Yes, they would have three losses one and
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: would be as the number one team in the country,
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: so in another top five one as well. So that
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: would be a team that you would look at and say, oh, yeah,
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: I think this team at nine to three should be
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: ranked higher than this other team at ten and two.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna circle back to Texas in a second
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: after this question. So obviously out here in Seattle a
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: lot of interest in Washington and what they've got going
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: on Washington's remaining schedule with two losses on the docket
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: at Wisconsin versus Purdue at home at UCLA. By all accounts,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: they should win those three games and roll in at
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: nine and two against Oregon at home the final game
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: of the season. If if Washington wins out and they
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: finished ten and two, and they'd have a win over
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Oregon and Illinois, assuming Oregon and I'll get to them
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: in a second, at Washington at ten and two, two
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: are they would you think that there's no doubt that
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Washington at ten and two would be in or so
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: this scenario at you Stu, like I'm wondering with Oregon,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: is Washington actually as bad as this might be for
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Husky fans to think? If you're Washington, are you rooting
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: like hell that Oregon better win a game against Iowa
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: this weekend and still be up in that top ten?
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: I mean, I guess the ideal scenario for Washington would
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: be that they are that they go into that game
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: and it's basically winner get the playoff spot, which you
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: if they're nine to two and they're playing a ten
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: and one Oregon team, they win and obviously that would
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: give them the edge over Oregon. I guess the other
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: one you have to think about is Michigan, because Michigan
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: would get in over Washington. But you know that's what
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: that would require, Michigan being orio state again. So right now,
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: the Big ten looks to me to be max three teams,
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: and I think right now everybody seems Oregon would be
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: the third, but out necessarily. I mean, they have a
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: tough schedule down the stretch, starting at Iowa. So let's
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: say Oregon goes nine to three, then somebody I would
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: think out of Iowa, Michigan, and Washington that one of
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: those teams would get attendant too and make the playoffs.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: And so and I bring it up for this reason.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: If let's say Oregon beats let's say Oregon splits the
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Iowa or in USC games, right, Like, let's say they
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: split those two games, and so you know they come
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: in there and to Washington. Washington beats them. But if
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: you just mentioned, like Michigan wins out, Michigan's going to
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: go as a ten and two team over Washington, right, Yeah, now.
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: They can both go. You know, I think sometimes we
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: you look at that, you know, rankings that they are. Oh,
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: it's like somebody are like, oh Miami their eighteenth, they're done. Well,
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: teams are these those teams are all going to lose, right,
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: this is college football, But very few of these teams
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: will all when people like, well, this team wins out
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: and this team went no, they're not, that's not going
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: to happen. They're all going to lose and the next
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: So the teams that do win out have a chance
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: to move up quite a bit. It's been pointed out
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: that ASU wasn't even ranked right first two rankings last season.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: I remember the first year in twenty fourteen in Ohio
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: State won the national title. They were like seventeenth in
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: the first rankings and they worked their way to the
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: top four. So yeah, all which is to say, like,
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: right now it might look like Washington can they make it?
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: Can't they make it? I mean, if they're ten and
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: two by the end of the rankings, they might be safely.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: In Well here's the thing. I mean, like you just
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: brought up Texas. Let me throw another team out to Tennessee.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: If Tennessee wins out, they're going to be well. They
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: play the traditional SEC you know, Patty Kate game against
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: New Mexico State, next week. They're off this week, then
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: they play out Florida, and then they finish off against Vanderbilt.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: If Tennessee wins out twenty fifth right now, SEC team
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: that wins out and has three losses, Washington wins out
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Texas ends up, as you mentioned, coming in with the
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: three losses. When it's all said and done, then what
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: do we looking at? I mean, I think that's when
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: the debate begins, right SEC versus Big ten. If you
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: have a couple three loss SEC teams and a ten
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: and two Washington team, but that ten and two Washington
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: team beat basically only Oregon in sort of Illinois this year,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: then you what do you do?
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: Then have a hard time seeing Tennessee because they just
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: don't I don't even know why they're ranked. To be
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: perfectly honest, they have no big wins of any kind
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: after losing to Oklahoma. I think the debate that that
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: lad and you can already see it brewing.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: It's not going to be nine and three SEC versus
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: ten and two Big ten. It's going to be nine
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: to three SEC versus giving the Big twelve, where the
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: ACC a second team, that's what the setam and the
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: SEC has has driven the whole how we're looking. We
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: have these new schedule metrics and ey that was all
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: in response to the SEC backlash at the end of
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: the season, to the audacity of SMU and Indiana getting
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: in over their teams.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna be good. I'll be honest with you, Stewart.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I think it's entertaining as hell. I mean, and you're
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: doing a podcast or right, and a couple of podcasts
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: we can put and writing the stories. I mean, I
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: know people hate rankings or not, people some do like
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, man, this is why brankings are fun.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Because we have all these debates. It's college football. And
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: it goes back to our first thing we talked about.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: You have all these teams in the Big ten, so
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: it's not like the NFL. It's not apples to apples.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: You're having to kind of compare and contrast and look
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: at all kinds of different metrics in all those things.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: And then you run into the power. You know, the
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: group of I guess what are we now? A group
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: of five? Right? Group of five is what does these days?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: The group of five schools one of those teams gets
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: in right now, I think it's what is it Memphis
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: or JMU, San Diego State.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: None of them were in the top twenty five right,
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: none of them are top twenty five. But they said,
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: the committee said, you know, that team right now would
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: be Memphis. They would be the highest rand.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: They would be okay, so Memphis will be so an
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: AAC seems to have the inside track. But what about
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: San Diego State if they were to win out and
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: then they would mean I mean, they got if they
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: went out, they got one loss, They're one to Washington State. JM.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: You they've got Washington State in a couple of weeks.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: They need to beat Wazoo and then I'm sure at
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: the same time, if you're San Diego State, you're hoping,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: like hell, Wazoo wins that game to help their metrics
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: a little bit as well. Wazoo actually factors into the
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: college football playoffs. Do That's what I'm getting to buddy, Yeah.
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Wazoo has a chance to have You looked, there's
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: like six teams that are in playoff contention that played
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: Wazoo this year. I'm sure they are all rooting for
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: Wazoo to finish strong.
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: Here.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: You know, whether you're Virginia and you're trying to show
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: you have a quality non conference win. Or North Texas
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: right like they want to show because they could be
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: from the AAC, like, hey, we beat the crap out
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: of those guys. So yeah, and Washingtate's not going to playoff,
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: but they they're going to show up on like six
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: different teams resumes.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: North Texas, Navy, Memphis all sitting with one loss in
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: the AAC just in the AC. Yeah, Ole miss obviously
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: is thinking about them as well. Washington's thinking about them
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: as well. They need that to look a little better.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Oregon State loss, that organ State loss, Jess, it didn't
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: just hurt you and me to our soul. It hurt
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: other teams to their soul. It hurt Lane Kiffin. Lane
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: hurt Lane Kiffin is what it did. It hurt, It
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: hurt Jed Fish. Actually that makes me happy all those
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: things happen, Stuart, any any updates on college football coaching searches?
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Is Jed Fish on his way to Florida? What's going on?
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: I think the first Domino to follow the Virginia Tech
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: James Franklin, Like, it wouldn't surprise me if that gets
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: announced before the season. End of the season, right, because
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: James Franklin isn't doing anything. If that doesn't happen, it
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: might be because Franklin is holding out and saying, maybe
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: I can get something better, you know, if I wait
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: on Florida or unles you or something like that. But
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: that those two have been kind of connected for a while.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Now I joke about Jed. Let me let me just
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: kind of as we look around at the openings, is
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: the Washington job better than many, if not all, of
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: the jobs that are opened all things considered at Spectations
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Resources conference, Like, is the Washington job, how would you
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: say compared to say Florida?
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: Right, It's a really good job, which is why it's
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: kind of weird if that were to happen that it'd
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: be twice in a row that it became a springboard job.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: But it's a big ten job, and so I mean,
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: I would certainly rather be there than at like Oklahoma
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: State or Virginia Tech or some of those schools. Arkansas. Yeah,
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: I don't I'm not hearing any buzz about jet Fish
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: right now. But we just talked about a scenario where
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: when their last four games make it to the playoff
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: and then yeah, I think he would become a hot page.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I bring that up, like to me, Ucla,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: you don't want to go there, They just facilities and
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: everything else. Know, even though he's got the connection there,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I think Washington is a better job. And I think
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Florida is an interesting one because you know, right, you
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: look at Florida, what do you do, Like if you
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: go ten and two but you don't make the playoffs
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: or nine and three don't make the playoffs, you're on
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the hot seat here. You do that, you're going to
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: get an extension, right, and you're in the big ten still,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: So I don't it's yeah, it's a personal it's personal preference,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: but probably a better job.
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: I guess if nothing else that it's going to get
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: him a raise and an extension.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Oh that's one hundred percent. Yeah, Matt Rule, Did Signetti
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: got that right? I mean, Eric Morris is the only
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: guy that might want to go somewhere anywhere because we
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: get the hell out of North Texas. All right, my friend,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. We'll talk to you next week. Tell
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: you about the Audible and the podcast and everything that going
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: on there.
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the Audible every Sunday morning. Uh, and Tuesdays and
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: Thursdays as well wherever you get your podcasts and on
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: YouTube as well.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend. We'll talk to you next week.
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: All right, Thank you.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: There you goes Stewart Mandel joining us from the Athletic
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  Speaker 2: and company roll back into town. Good young hockey team,
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  Speaker 2: Big testa knight for the crack Canna sayundefeated at home
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: and regulation this year. Chandler Stevenson's had a nice start
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: to the season as well, really done a good job
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: on the PK and also helping run the power play
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: which is vastly improved, and Mike Benton caught up to
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: him this morning.
• 32:14
  Speaker 8: For the third period. The more consistent, the more calm
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: that this team can be, the better results are going
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: to basically show up in a rise that How much
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: does that work really apply for what this team has
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: built so far through twelve games.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's huge.
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: You know, anytime you can hold a lead, you know,
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: when teams are pressing, kind of give it back to them.
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: When teams are pressing and you have a lead, that's huge.
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: And yeah, I think with consistency, it's just the more
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: you're in those situations and the more games you win
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: and points you kind of put in the bank in
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: certain situations, even coming back and getting a point or
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: two points, it's just, yeah, builds confidence for the team.
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's a lot different when you know you're
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: blowing every lead and losing every game of no confidence
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: and you're just kind of waiting for it to happen.
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: So yeah, I think that that's been a huge part of,
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: you know, just kind of the success that we've had
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: here early.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: You're wondering if coaching makes a difference Cracking twelve games in. Yes,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: they're off for the best start in franchise history. But
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: what Mike was talking to Chandler about is pretty simple,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: playing close games. Twelve games in. They've played seven one
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: goal games out of twelve already this season. Added to
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: that six times they've gone to overtime or a shootout
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: this year, and play past sixty minutes. Teams playing close
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: games are not allowing a lot of goals. They're not
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: scoring a ton of goals either, but they're used to it.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: They seem to be comfortable in that lane Lambert system
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: should be.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I'll just tell you this.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: You going tonight, or if you're watching on King TV,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: or if you're listening here on KJR, expect another tight game.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Going into the third period, Kracking have only led. This
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: is crazy. They've only had one lead after twenty minutes
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: of play, so far this season. One time they've been
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: leading after one period. Yet they're still listening there with
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: that great record so far this season.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: All right, a lot to come up on the show today.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: We're gonna check in with our friend Mike Holmgren in
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: just a couple of minutes. Also, we got I got
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: a good factor of fiction pick today of shall we
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: say local interest Jess, I've got a local interest factor
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• 34:18
  Speaker 5: Oh what a tease.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: That's a big tease. Your chance one one thousand dollars
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: coming up today. That will be at two thirty five.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Mike Holmgan is going to join us next. We'll talk
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: about Sam Darnold. Obviously, his start to the game the
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: other day is first half is perfect. First half of
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks against the Commanders. I'll talk to him about
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: the philosophy that goes into making a trade like they
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: did yesterday for Rashid Shaheed. Mike's been in those meetings.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: He understands that there's some people critical of the trade
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: because of the draft equity they gave up. I think
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: it tells more about who and what these guys are.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that with Mike Holmgran coming up
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: they're in a go for it mode. I love that
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: off that philosophy. I wish every sports professional sports franchise
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: had that don't always work out, makes mistakes along the way,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: but you gotta like that philosophy. Mike holmgrenn coming up
• 35:10
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• 35:41
  Speaker 2: wide receiver Rashid Shihi to the regular roster. They signed
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Macdalin to the practice squad. Michael Donell saying today that
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: even though they're having kind of light practice walk through
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: l like type today, Cooper cup Enters Jones will be
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: involved at least in some phases of practice today. That's
• 35:54
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• 35:56
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• 35:58
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• 36:27
  Speaker 2: they must start early this year. All right, let's get
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: to his Mike standing by almost We're close.
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  Speaker 5: Coach is always standing by for us.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 5: All right, so let that man talk to you before
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  Speaker 5: two forty five.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Mike Holmegrin joins us. Right now, Mike, my apologies, I
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: was a little distracted. You're You'll find this hard to believe.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: As I'm going on the air and the Mike homegrinn
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Open is playing, a guy walks in here and says, hey,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: are you on the air, What are you doing? When
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: are you coming back when you're on the air. His
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: name's David Maller. You might know him.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: I do know him, and he just popped in on
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: you just.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Like wanted to have a conversation about something that had
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: absolutely nothing to do with sports or radio or anything professional.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I'll just leave it at that.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I know, and you know in your headlines though,
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: I got it, man, I was you know, it was
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: just we've just finished watching the baseball playoffs, yes I know,
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: in the World Series, and now you're talking about and
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: catchers like.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: I'm not ready for it, sir, I'm not ready for it.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: I'm not ready.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Well, good to have you on, sir, appreciate it. As always,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: we got a lot to get to you today. I
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: want to start and you know, like when we do
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: this segment for people that have listened to Mike and
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I for the last I don't know, five, six, seven
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: years how long we've been doing this. It's been a
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: First of all, I love it. It's one of my
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: favorite things to do to get to talk to Mike
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Homran every week. And I get people all the time saying, man,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: what's it like you get to talk to coach? And
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: sometimes he comes in studios. I said, it's great. I said,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: it's Mike's one of us. He wants to come in
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: and just kind of hang out and b s with
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: us and talk. And I love the stories. People love
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: the stories. But I also like when you and I talk,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: you've you've already done your x's and o's and things
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: like that. I like to kind of talk bigger picture
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: with you and just kind of philosophy and kind of
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: lean on your experience. And there's a bunch of things
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: to do that with today, So I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: gonna do that. Let me start first with and I'll
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: get to Rashid shi heat in a second and the
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: bigger picture part of that. Let me first with we
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: talked people here have talked a lot about Hey, this
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: is this feeling like you know, is twenty twenty five
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: feeling like twenty twelve again, or maybe two thousand and
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: one or two or three with Mike or twenty twelve.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: People like you know, there are we starting to see
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: kind of the start of something really special in a
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: nice run. And part of that, to me always is
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: the buy in part of it. Let me go back.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: You had to you rebuilt Green Bay, you rebuilt this
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: franchise here. You had to get something established a foundation,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: and then get the buy in from certain guys. What
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: goes into it, Like when you're going into a nuke job.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: If if a coach came into you tomorrow and said, hey, Mike,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I I just got the job in. I'm just looking
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: through Kellen Mors only been there one year. I want
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: to do that to him. Tennessee, somebody gets a Tennessee
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: job and they call you up and say, hey, they're
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: one and eight. Now, let's say they finished like two
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: and fifteen, and you know they've got a quarterback in
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: cam We think, but Mike, how do you how do
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: you build something? How do you start something in a
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: place that's coming off a two and fifteen season. What's
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: the first steps in building that culture.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Well, I think the first step time I'm going to
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: probably state the obvious here is that when you talk
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: to the team for the first time to make sure
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: that they understand what your ideas are. Let's not talk
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: about blocking and tackling and anything right now, Let's just
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: talk about what you want to see from them as teammates,
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: as helping each other, as being hard working, all those
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: all that stuff that you talk about that goes into
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: preparing a team. And Ian, I'll tell you what there
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: are times then after you're there for a little while,
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: and it doesn't have to be very long, that you
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden you pick out and it's sometimes
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: it's obvious, sometimes it's a little subtle, but you pick
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: out some people that just aren't willing to do that.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: They're just not they like the former guy, or they're
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: not used to the way you do things. Then it's
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: a matter of figuring out how to make the changes,
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: how to trade them, how to get them out of
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: the building, how to get replacements and things like that.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: So they talk about all the time, culture, the culture, right, well,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: what does that mean? That means, you know, being a
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: good team, being a good teammate, respecting each other all
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: that kind of verbiage, but it's true, and that's where
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: you start that.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: And I mean, here's the thing. I also think it
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: has to help me out here. I'm sure ownership has
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: to come into play too. And I'll just go back
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine when you got you got here in
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine, Paul g Allen, the greatest owner we've
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: had in this city's history in terms of sports, owning
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: the football team, kind of saving the football team in
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of ways. And as I look through the Seahawk,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: you know, franchise history starting with nineteen ninety nine, with you,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: we will forget about the horrible year of nine. But
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: from you through Pete and now so far with and
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Mike won ten games last year as well on the
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: way to that and then some this year. By and large,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: as I look through here, way more playoff appearances and
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: about a seventy percent rate in terms of winning seasons
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety nine. That's with now three different coaches
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: for if you want to include more, but I don't,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: so let's just say three different coaches along the way,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: all have had pretty good success. Maybe it's expectations, but
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: how much of that has to also come from ownership.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Mike, Oh, it means everything. It means everything. And Paul,
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: you know, bless his heart. He I've told you before
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: I go into meetings and you go, Okay, how much
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: money are gonna cost me? Now? You know, and things like.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: That, if you want He didn't care, did he like,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: if you want?
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Know? That was that was That was his way of
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: kind of joking around with me. And we're leaving the
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: tension in the room. But you know, he he he
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: just would do anything. I would be I would. I've
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: been very fortunate because with the Packers Ron Wolf and
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: he once told me, hey, you know, you and I
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: are like owners. And he was my boss, he was
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: he was the general manager. We didn't have an owner.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: And in Seattle, Paul, yeah, what do you need? How
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: can I help you? And then you see teams struggle
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: in the league when they don't have that, and it's
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: pretty obvious to me when those people, those decision makers
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: are not with you. And in this league you have to.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: You know, the guys that own the football teams are
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: multi rich guys and they've been very good at something
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: to gain that kind of responsibility and money and all
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: that stuff, but they might not be so great at
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: the football game at that So they have to hire
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: people that they trust and will allow and give them,
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: but then give them the support that they need. And
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: you'll see teams now that don't have that. The owner
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: is too involved. He shouldn't be the guy making decisions
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: on players. He really shouldn't. He should trust the coach.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: And that's what I always had in Seattle with.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Paul fourteen to seventeen years as a head coach in
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: the NFL. Mike ho Longrin had a winning record fourteen
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: of seventeen, A winning record for you in your career,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: which is just remarkable in a league that wants to
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: have parody, doesn't want to have teams be good every
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: year and all those things. I'm going to go back
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: to the culture part of it because I Mark James,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: our Midday guy, I brought this up to me. He says,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I remember an interviewee and you did in during OTAs
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: non mandatory, and I had I had Jaron Reid and Mike,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: and I asked Jaron kind of a I guess a
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: point blank question. Mark thought it was. Mark was kind
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: of goes, I can't believe you asked him that, but
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: he had a great answer and I said, I said,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I said, Jared, why are you here? Like, like, it's
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: not mandatory. You're eleven year veteran. Why are you here?
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Why is Why is Leonard Williams here? Why is DeMarcus
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: and you know all these veterans, Cooper cut why are
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: you guys here? Like I'm just you know, guys don't
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: have to be here. He says, that's that's what we're
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: doing here. We're buying in. This is like it's a
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: kind of a buy in thing for Mike McDonald. You
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: can look around a room, right and find out pretty
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: soon who's who's going to be on your team and
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: who you want on your team and who's buying into
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: what what you as a coach you're selling? Correct?
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: I think so? Yeah, I think so, And that that's
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: so important. And you know there are things that you
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: run into that are money things there, contract things, right,
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: but you kind of know I use Walter Jones as
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: an example, you know, And but I knew. I also
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: knew where his heart was and what it was. It
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: was a it was a business thing that that that's
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: the only reason he was then because he loved his teammates.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: He loved being here, so I knew that. Then there
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: are other guys that you kind of know even though
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: now it's happening more where the player will say and
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: you'll read it in the newspaper, I don't want to
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: be here anymore. Trade me. Yes, that never happened. That
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: that never got out there. No, you know, even if
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: they felt that way. So it's a different time now.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: But it's yeah, you see it right away. I think,
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: well some you should see it right away. Let me
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: put it that way.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, you know who the guys
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: are that are gonna that are gonna I mean, and
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: you need those guys. You need the Jaron Reids of
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: the world to buy in, right like. You need those
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: guys to say, Hey, this is how we do things here.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: This is how we do things, you know. And I've
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: got you know, almost you almost see your veteran players,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: don't you, Mike, to have the coaches back in a
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: sense in that room.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: Sure, And that's again you and I have talked about
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: this before as well. And you know, one of the
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: guys that I'm gonna mention my players committee that I selected.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: You know, we're six or seven guys. And they might
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: not be the best player, right but I but they've
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: had an influence. Their teammates loved them, and they were sensible,
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: reasonable and most of our great players anyway, But you
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: think a guy like Robbie Tobek who've gone and you know,
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: we've talked about them before. He was on that committee.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: He and I could talk about anything in that locker room,
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: and he could be honest with me if if I
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: had crossed the line or I'd done something silly, and
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: and you appreciate that. And so I had a good
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: understanding because of my committee about what was happening down
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: in the locker room. Because a lot of times, to
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: be honest, they don't always listen to everything the coach says,
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: but they do listen to their captains, and they do
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: listen to the players they respect.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: What was Reggie White?
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Oh he was, he was. He was a joy, you know,
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: and he was so good. He was such a good
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: player that you had to you had to respect him.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: I mean you just had to. And then he was
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: he was a real Christian man and he you know,
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: I told you at the time that I got a
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: little mad and cursed at him a little bit and
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: he Mike, kind of like you doing that. You know,
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: you had a kind of rasped me voice. I said,
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but here's why I did it, and I'd
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: explained it to him, and but you know, he led
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: by example, but he also had control of the locker room.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: If Reggie's on your side, you were good as a coach,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: like there was no there's no ifs or butts at
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: that point and stuff that's right now, And I think
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: that's what McDonald's got going on. I think that's why
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: you see what's happening right now right Mike is like
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: you see, the veterans have bought into whatever first year
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: coach last year, second year coach this year, kind of
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: like you was a highly sought after coordinator, but not
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: a head coach. So you've got to get that. And
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Mike's done that, hasn't he I think he has.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: I think he has, and you know, I watch I
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: haven't talked to him lately. I haven't been in there
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: for in a while, but we do have good conversations
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: when I do go in there, and you know, he
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: how he responds to the presh and how he just
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: responds to the things I read and how he deals
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: with the players. You just I just know he is,
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: he's really they're listening and they got it going in.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: You know, at the beginning year, I thought, you know,
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: Donald would be good. I thought there would be they
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: really have a chance to do something. In my opinion,
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: special this year.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: It's fun to watch on Mike Homegren with us. So
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: they make the trade yesterday Mike Rashid she head and
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: kind of brings us back to you know, this whole
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: you know, buying into things. There are some organizations in
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: all sports, not just the NFL, right, but in all sports,
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: some organizations kind of like, okay, we're hanging around, We're okay,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: you know, we're not gonna and there's others that just
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: want to take a chance. I don't I don't know
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: if this is a you know, and it's different now
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: because Paul's gone and and Jody's there, and I think
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: for people don't know, Jody's still involved. Like I know
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: that she I know that she has conversations Jody does
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: with you know, with John and so forth, and certainly
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: with Chuck on the business side. But you know, it's
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: it's got to come somewhere where did Schneider seems to
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: be a guy. Maybe he got this from you and
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Ron Wolf. I don't know. You tell me Schneider seems
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: to be a guy, John Schneider, that is. It's like, hey, man,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: like I'm gonna I'm gonna roll the dice, I'm going
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: all in. I'm gonna do like the sheet Rashid she
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Head trade yesterday, Leonard Williams a few years ago, Ernest
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Jones last year. I mean, and there's some of them
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: haven't worked out. Jimmy Graham didn't work out. I think
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Jamal was more pete than John, I'm guessing. But like,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: like I'm I want to think that. I want to
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: want to believe that with my soul. But it feels
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: like Schneider's got a little, you know, swagger to him,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: doesn't he Because he's not afraid to go out and
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: make a move.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: No, and he's that's exactly right. And he has now
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: been doing this a while and he knows he is
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: a You go in there and talk to him, and
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: he gets excited about talking about his players, and he
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: he knows how to do this. Now. He's got good
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: connections around the league, and he's willing to hang it
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: out there. Sometimes he really is and so but they're not.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: It's not foolish, I don't think. It's always very thoughtful
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: and he allows It reminds me a little bit of
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: when I was with Ron Wolf. He was my boss.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: He made the final call. But but we always we
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: talked about stuff. We agreed on things. We didn't argue
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: about it. We just came to an agreement. And I
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: think that's now with the relationship to John and my keV,
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: which which gives you a chance to be the best
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: team you can beat.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: So they go out and get Rashid Shihed. They've got
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: a guy leading the world in receiving yards and every
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I mean everything imaginable in JSN. He's having this all
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Pro season, and I don't think the Seal's had an
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: all Pro wide receiver since a guy named by the
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: name of Largent if I'm not mistaken. Good receivers. They've
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: had good receivers along the way. You know, you had
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: a couple of good ones with certainly with d Jack
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: and and you know and others, but but they haven't
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: had a pro an all pro wide receiver since then.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Cooper Cup banged up a little bit. Tory Horton coming on,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: had a couple of touchdowns and you know we saw
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: we saw that the other day. So they go out
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: and get Rashid Shihed a speedster also returned, and I
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: think the returnability probably can't be overlooked Mike. I think
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: the fact that he can return kicks is probably a
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: big thing, especially with Dreike Young out. But they gave
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: away a couple of picks, you know, a fourth and
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: a fifth, and a lot of people are saying, ah,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know what they're doing. He's got an expiring contract.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: What'd you think of the trade? Was it necessary to
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: go out and get a weapon like him?
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: I wasn't sure they're going to do anything, to be honest,
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: but I think it's a good trade. You know, their
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: receivers with Cuppy and hurt a little bit, and their
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: receivers a little bit dinged up just a little bit,
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: and so to add one more receiver who's a good
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: player to the mix and a good return guy, as
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: you pointed out, I think that's a plus. When you
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: talk about picks four and five down the road and
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: stuff that's so far away from now that I didn't think.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: I don't think about that stuff too much when it
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: comes up, maybe you miss something, but you know, they
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: want to win right now, and if they think a
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: player in the case of this young man, can help
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: them be better and give them more depth along the
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: receiving group, then we're going to do it. And John
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: pulled the trigger and he's gonna do that. That didn't
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: surprise me. I didn't think they had a definite need there,
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: But now the more I thought about it, think it's
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: a very good pick.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Well the I mean, and listen, you go back to
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: your conversations with ron uh and Schneider. I'm sure had
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: these with Pete and how's him with Micha although it's
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: a little different deal because he's definitely in charge now
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: more so than maybe before. Do you think that's a
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: collaborative effort, like, hey, I'm talking to I'm talking to Kubiak,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: the OC, I'm talking to McDonald, the head coach. You know,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: we're thinking about player X, Y and Z and maybe
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: player Y was was Rashid Shihed. I'm sure that's a
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: collaborative effort.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: Isn't it. It has to be. It has to be,
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: And that was one of the things, quite honestly, that
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: kind of fell apart my last my last couple of years. Yes,
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: coaching there, but it has to be in. That's what
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: makes teams and that's the way to do it, you know.
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: I remember. I'll tell you one quick funny story. When
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: John was in Green Bay with me. I was on
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: the field and the guy he had brought in, or
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: they had brought in Ron and Ted Thompson, those guys,
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: but Ted and Ron were on the road. John was
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: standing next to me and practice and the guy they
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: brought in came in and hit Farv in the back
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: and it was supposed to be no contact and he's
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: jumping around hitting Farv, and I went, I look, John's
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: trying to hide from me. He's trying to hide behind
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: the ball boy. And I look at him and go
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: did you bring him in here? And he goes uh,
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: And then I went ba zoo. I went crazy. Ask
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: him about that sometime, ask him about it. We laugh
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: about it now because I was a little out to
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: control them. Well, but he is what shut He's ma
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: shurt a lot. You know.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: The good news is Schneider probably could hide behind the
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: ball boy. He's not the tallest guy in the world.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: She probably was hard. He probably was able to duck
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: back there and find him. No, I think that's a
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: good point though. I mean, listen, like, I know people,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: you know, it's always laughing with the kind of fans
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: get upset about. Oh they gave up a lot of
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: draft you know, all the fourth and the fifth. I'm
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: thinking you have you watched John Schneider on a draft weekend?
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Has he ever like outside of the COVID draft of
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, right when they just didn't
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: they just kind of on that draft they did they
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: didn't see enough college tape. They freely admit it. We're
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: not going to put money into something we haven't seen
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: outside of that. That dude, Josh Snodder is not going
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: to go into Day three of the draft next year
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: with just two six round picks. He'll find a way,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: not at all, He'll find a way.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: How many times? And you know, I don't stay at
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: the draft as long as you guys do. Yeah, but
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: I don't. Oftentimes I don't even get to stay as
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: long for one pick because he always trades back, you know,
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: he always trades back to get more picks if he
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: feels it's the right thing. To do. If the guy's there,
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: he'll take him. But they he likes to do that.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: He likes that kind of action and he's been pretty
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: good at it.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: I just think it's great. I mean, honestly, if you're
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: a fan, you got to love the fact that this
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: team is all I mean, I did I go back
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: to since nineteen ninety nine, since you got here. This
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: is a team that has been uber aggressive like they
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: want to like it's it's like, hey, what can we
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: do to me?
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: And it does.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Graham had a good season statistically, but we could
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: say it didn't work out. Percy returned a touchdown for
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: you know, in the Super Bowl to kind of put
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: it away. They would have won that game anyway. He
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: didn't do much after that. Jamal was an absolute disaster.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, they've made mistakes along the way, there's no doubt.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: But you're gonna make mistakes, and as long as you're
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: being aggressive, I think it's, you know, go for it.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: People thought it was a mistake. There's a lot of
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: people that thought it was a mistake. When they got
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: rid of Gino and they went to Sam Darnald Mike
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: that's turned out okay. What'd you perfect half on the
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: first half on Sunday? What did you see from Sam Dnold?
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: That was that was brilliant. I mean that was really something.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: Now I have to say, and I said this before
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: this week that I'm not sure you know, Washington was
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: banged up and all that kind of stuff. But still
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: you watch Sam and how he delivers the ball on
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: time with accuracy, and they mentioned it on the air.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: He sees his eyes and he's moving defenders around and
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: he's looking left, but he knows he wants to go
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: right and and it and he delivers the ball. He
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: passes the ball beautifully and he's a great leader. And
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: so that has worked out very very well. I haven't
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: watched gin in the Raiders very much, but listen, it's
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: it's working out. I hope it works out for Gino
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: because I liked Gino, but it's worked out for us
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: for sure.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Guy has a half like that. Do you even talk
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: to him as head coach?
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Yep?
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: D Like what do you tell like, cause you're gonna
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: you're the quarterback whisper you you know you you do
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: usually have a couple of things probably to say to
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Bread or Matt or whoever, right, but the guy goes
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: guy goes perfect eighteen for eighteen or whatever it was,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: and four touchdowns? Would do you just go, hey, just
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: keep it up? Like what do you say to the guy.
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: I'd probably just say a nice going I'm gonna get
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: some water, right now.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Go get an orange and take care of yourself. Yeah,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I mean that final thing for you, they get Shaheed.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: But look, we've seen great receivers over the years in
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: the NFL that that, you know, like you keep you out,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: like Heck, Seattle's gone against guys over the years. We
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: asked ourselves, you know, why was DK not this particular
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: guy in terms of you know, being flat out at
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: times like unstoppable, Like I'm surprised j end is just
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: like they everyone knows what he's gonna do, right, everyone
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: knows he's the guy. He's got forty seven percent of
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: the targets on the team so far. Like, are you
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: a little surprised that no one's been able to slow
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: him down? Or is he just that good? And if
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: you have a receiver at that level, it's just impossible
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: to do. Because even even in San Francisco, as great
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: as Jerry was, that John Taylor guy was pretty damn good.
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, and our tight end's caught to a lot
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: of passes too, so we you know. But you know what,
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: I've said it, and I'll say it again. It's amazing
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: what he's doing because I know if I was playing
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: against him, yes and coaching against him, I would I
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: would talk to my defensive coordinators said, I don't know,
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: you're running the show on defense. You do what you
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: need to do, but I'm going to have I'm going
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: to be watching one thing. I want him hit at
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage every play. I want him disrupted
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: after that. Do what I have to do. You know.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: But he's not going to run free down there, because
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: when he runs free, they throw him the ball and
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: he beats you. So and so far, so far, no
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: one's been able to even stop and me even slow
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: him down. So that's a it's a great plan. It's
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: a great job they're doing, and I'll probably be surprised
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: all season long if they continues to happen.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Justin Max, I got one more question. I got one
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: more story he's gotta tell because when you said that,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: the first thing I thought before it, the first thing
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: I thought of Mike was two thousand and five and
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: the NFC title game, and Steven Steve Smith was like
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: the dude he was their offense for Carolina, right, he
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: was that, he was that guy. And you did what
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: you just said, didn't you put a lot of all things.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: I remember watching this. I don't even know I'm important.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: I'm like, is that that's a linebacker, not even like
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: their best linebacker Kevin Bentley? Why is? And you didn't
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: you put Bentley on Steven Smith and just say beat
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: him up? Like just go get them every play?
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, after on the line of scrimmage, and I remember,
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: I remember get you know them saying John would tell me,
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: he goes Mike that there were only playing with ten guys.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: I said, that's right, that's right, do the best you
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: can with ten because I want that done every play
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: with that receiver. And then I left him alone and fortunately.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: It worked out and it stole like Steve Smith didn't
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: have a temper that probably just took him right out
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: of the game, like I mean, oh.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: No, you know what. And I saw him at different
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: things after the fact after we played that game, at
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: different things, and we joke about it and I laugh
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: about it and we had a pretty good relationship, but
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: I knew that to win that football game, we used
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: to have the best chance to win. We had to
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: do that. And give credit to our defense. They did
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: a great job.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: I did a great I was awesome. I remember watching
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: that thinking, this is like, this is one of the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: coolest things I've ever seen, just something they would would
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: have thought about. And that's what it is like. And
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: JSNZ keeps going and doing his thing. Mike great Stuff
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: has always love these conversations. You'll be on with Softy tomorrow.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Good luck to you in that regard. Got speed, and
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: we'll talk to you next Wednesday, sir, thank.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: You, all right, but take it to get there, and.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: That's my call. I'm gonna we'll come back. It'll factor fiction.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: May check a text or two coming up next. All right,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, with a couple of texts here before
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: we get to the uh factor fiction. What let's see
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: what we got. Hope hope this spring training. Hope the
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: spring training. My trip lines up at the morning shows.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Morning show usually goes first week of spring training. Is
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: that right?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: They're usually February. Yes, it's like February.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: It's before right when right like on the eve of
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: the first Cactus Leek game.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they like getting there when everybody's there, they get
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: interviews there's no games going on.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: Well, now we know they start market plan.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Marcus plan accordingly. If they started on the February
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: twentye if I bet the Morning show'll be e theire
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: the week of the fifteenth or whatever it would be,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: that'd be my guess. You can check out the Morning show.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: They're on every day from six am to ten.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: Yes, they are.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: He just asked them and let them know Morning show
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: will be down there.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: I would love it if they've planned around that.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, Marcus has to plan around them, as what
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: he was trying to do.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: No, that's what I mean.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, I got you all right.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't think the Morning Show is
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: going to plan around yes, trip, Sorry.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Let's see, did it?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 8: Uh?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: That's I'm not reading that. Not reading that. Do they
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: want they wanted to win right away? Okay? Why didn't
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: they address the guard position because Anthony Bradford is trash?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: How do you know they didn't try.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: Spare fair question?
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  Speaker 2: Dave Softy Mallar. Hard to believe how bad Wisconsin's offense
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  Speaker 2: Football Playoff Poll. Their favorite are the Huskies by eleven
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  Speaker 2: I think Washington's gonna roll all joking aside. I think
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  Speaker 3: Okay, but here's the thing.
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  Speaker 9: I actually thought the Cougars would win until you guys
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  Speaker 9: just rocked yourself down there in corvallis what freaking embarrassment
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  Speaker 3: For God's sake. You don't think you.
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  Speaker 2: Guys are gonna win by by a couple of touchdowns
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  Speaker 2: against Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 9: I'm concerned that Wisconsin's due for a win number one
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  Speaker 9: or a cover number two.
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  Speaker 3: Their offense stinks right now.
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  Speaker 9: They've scored seven points in their last three games, yes,
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  Speaker 9: against three of the top five defenses in the country.
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  Speaker 9: So they got to think from their perspective. Man, first
• 1:09:00
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  Speaker 3: I don't always of that.
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  Speaker 9: Well, a lot of people that cover the sport don't
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  Speaker 9: think Wisconsin has the money to buy an eye out.
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  Speaker 3: They don't have the big boosters.
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  Speaker 9: The way that Penn State and A and M and
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  Speaker 9: Oklahoma State do places like that.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, but the other thing too, just on a side note,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: for a lot of these teams that are like on
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: the verge of should we fire a guy or not? What,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: the coaching pool is pretty damn limited.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing is.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 9: I was talking to Petros and we're gonna bring it
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  Speaker 9: up today that there's a lot of schools I think
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  Speaker 9: that have openings that feel like their openings should be
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  Speaker 9: filled by a big time guy.
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  Speaker 3: And there's not a lot of big time guys. There's
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  Speaker 3: just not fired.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Sure, I mean there's gonna be a lot of you
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 9: know yourself, like Hugh Freeze, a lot of you know,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 9: musical chairs going on. James Franklin's gonna find a job.
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  Speaker 9: Hugh Freeze will find a job. Hell My Gundy may
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  Speaker 9: find a job, for God's sakes. But I I look,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 9: it's the it's the paranoia in me that you're going
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 9: on the road, you're playing a team that's desperate for
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  Speaker 9: a win. They got to look at this game with
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 9: the Huskies is kind of a little bit of a
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  Speaker 9: break and that are not facing a top five defense
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 9: for the first time in a month, So maybe we
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 9: can move the ball. Do I think the Huskies win? Yes,
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  Speaker 9: I do what I probably lay off the number. Yes,
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  Speaker 9: I would, Yes, I would. I could see him leading
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  Speaker 9: by seventeen points and the Badgers got a back door cover.
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  Speaker 3: I could see a twenty seven to seventeen type win.
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  Speaker 9: Huskies are up twenty seven to ten, laid fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 9: Notcorey get a back door cover. Well, that's my point
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  Speaker 9: is that it could be come with come with thirty
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 9: seconds left to go?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: Because you guys are the ball games are sixty minutes long. Pal,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: you know what, you guys play them all you're on
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: the road. You only got sixty five guys. You can
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: bring age yes, player stars for a while and all
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  Speaker 2: that funn Well.
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  Speaker 9: The other part is that now they're saying it may
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 9: snow on Saturday night in Madison.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, may snow out. When do you fly?
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 9: We'll see we fly back Sunday morning. And there's one
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 9: air traffic control guy at Madison, so good luck?
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: Is he working or is he I do? I have
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: my point? There's only one guy left. That guy calls
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: it sick your shock.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: It's only one dude?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: Letter stuck?
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: How many?
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 9: How many dudes are in Seattle at SeaTac there might
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 9: be three or four guys?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: Now there might be won by Sunday night.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: I'm out of here to no ideas.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: Talking one guy in one tower at a small airport. Yeah yeah,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: I'd say fifty fifty year back. Did you guys, let
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  Speaker 2: me ask you a question.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 9: Did either one of you ever like wait tables in
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 9: high school or college or whatever?
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  Speaker 3: You did okay.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: So I was a bus boy.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 9: Do you ever have that night where nobody else showed
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 9: up and you had like an entire section to yourself.
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  Speaker 3: That's what the.
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  Speaker 9: Traffic controllers are like right now. If you're just running around,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 9: they're dropping beers all over the plane.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: And the difference is one guy's controlling airplanes. That's right,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: that's right, otherwise you're beer. It's pretty important, man.
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  Speaker 9: So we'll see. I would agree, we'll see what happens
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 9: this weekend. But we're fired up to get out there.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 9: It's say interesting that you know Harlan's going to be
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 9: here this weekend for the Seahawk game. I saw that
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 9: he's calling the game, and I'm not going to be
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 9: your second straight time he's going to be here this year.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: And I am out of town.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Time to get back.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 9: I get back Sunday at like four o'clock, so I'm
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 9: gonna I'm going to miss their game.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: What do you do in that case? And like, is
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: do you record?
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: Know if it's on Delta?
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 9: I watch the game on the plane because they got
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 9: they got phenomenal Wi Fi.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: Actually they have the little TV and they have the TV.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's good.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll watch the game on the plane.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Are you are you if you ant? Are you a
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: guy that would record and stay off?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: So no, No, I don't care that much.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: I made I made the mistake of doing that for
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: the Cougs last Saturday. Ye a hockey game, and I
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: knew what the score was at halftime. Yeah, Mike, I'll
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: come home and watch it. Kind of shuttle through, and
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: I shuttled. It's gonna get better. It's going to get better.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: It's gonna get better. Never got better better. Yeah, I
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: almost Tex suggests to go, what the hell I mean?
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 9: You gotta feel a little, a little good for the
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 9: Beaves rushing the field, old.
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  Speaker 2: D c Robins.
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  Speaker 9: We'll get him on the second half of the back
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 9: to back, the home and home. Whatever it is, I'm
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 9: gonna make you guys big time. I would do big time, Okay,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 9: especially if Zev doesn't play. Yeah, well it's your guys,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 9: ZV out of there. I'm gonna jump all over that line.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 9: Whatever the hell it's going to be. Is that the
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 9: final game of the regular season? No, No, that would
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 9: be good if it was. Who do you play in
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 9: your final games? What's the last jess, what's the last
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 9: regular season game. It's not Oregon State, it's some other slappy.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: No, it's our last one is Oregon State. We've got
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: Louisiana Tech come up at all the game.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 9: You do not know that, man, you are well I
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 9: gave up last week, buddy.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm looking for a new team. I'm a free agent,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: free stopping agent.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 9: Somebody tell me Jackson, tell me you got that on tape.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 9: That's a drop. That is an absolute drop.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: No, it's not go Coog's go Coog's always go Coops,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: Go cas Goku.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: I'll come up with some crimson colored soak, Go Cougs.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Go Coogs. It was rock bottom. I'll tell you that
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: it was rock bottom. I went to the brink yesterday.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: I said this is Paul Wolf Like. He got all mad.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say the bottom. Did you not watch
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: the two thousand and eight Cougars.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: Well we won two games, that's myo. You won four
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: already double two thousand and eight. Man, are you kidding me?
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 9: This team looks like the ninety seven rose ball team
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 9: compared to that team.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: He got all pissed off. He's like, you can't say
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: it's already. It's it's like a wolf brinked it. I'll brink,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: I said, Alex, Come on, like, you lost to a
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: one in seven Oregon State team that gave.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: Up Hey, we lost to a one win Coup team. Yes,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: she did. She knew who I brought up to him.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: This week, I think of going, remember who was the
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: quarterback for Wazoo through the one pass through all year?
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: Kevin Lapena Jared Carstead or to win that game?
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: You guys, Ronnie fouch Man, Ronnie Fouch You know.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 9: A battle the two worst quarterbacks in the state's history.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 9: That was an interesting day. Bird and I were there
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 9: at the Apple Cup that year. Were you there for
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 9: that game? Walked Section two?
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: Twenty years ago?
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? I can't remember what happened last year.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: People going you liked that guy, I'm like, not really.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: You know who wasn't there Hugh Millan?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Was he?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: You know why he wasn't there. We told this story
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: on the air allion times. He was at Jim morris
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: house trying to convince.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 9: Him to take the Hosky Jots, right, Tyron, and then
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 9: Scott Woodward. You know they hadn't announced the fire gettel right.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 9: They announced it after the Oregon State game before USC.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 9: We went to USC. We could not get a phone call.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 9: In the postgame show, there was nothing to talk about
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 9: because Willingham was out and Woodward let him stay on.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: Are you just fired?
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: Are you sure you didn't get a phone call. I'm
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: sure I tried from who I tried calling in?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: Oh you did?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 9: Well we we We couldn't even get a wrong number
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 9: on the postgame show.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: We went to us.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 9: He got me fifty six to nothing by the Trojans
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 9: and nobody cares worked by cal then later right, well,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 9: that was the last game.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: Of the year.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 9: We played you guys, and then we had and then
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 9: we had to buy and had to go to col terrible.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Don't forget to read this U can.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 9: You fix the spelling air by the way, it's I'm
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 9: like Ron Burgundy, I'll just read whatever face. So Petros today, Petros,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 9: Harlan Florio, Larry Stone. We keep telling Larry Stone that
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 9: we're done, but all this cool stuff keeps happening. So
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 9: he's gonna jump on at six o'clock tonight and talk
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 9: about Horne Polanko declining his option.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: You saw that he's a free agent.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 9: Muno is coming back and then thoughts on Game seven
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 9: obviously on Saturday night. So I think the more we
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 9: can just twist the knife for Blue Jay fans the better.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 9: So we're gonna do that at six pm to night.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Jess, I've reconsidered gokoks.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 9: No no take backs for the mild, mattered and marginally
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 9: objectionably for ness.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: This is paddle Day saying so long everyone,