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The Bolt Report | 16 July · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: It's the report tonight Labour's great union scam got even worse.
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  Speaker 1: A message to labor, give us back the four million
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  Speaker 1: dollars that you helped the Crookeet union to rip off labor.
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  Speaker 1: It's just out of excuses. Why did it take you
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  Speaker 1: a year to respond?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 1: What? Also tonight the women protecting Donald Trump did the
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  Speaker 1: assassination bid show that affirmative action in the Secret Services
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: not quite working out like it should. Plenty more coming up,
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  Speaker 1: including some reverse racism in Nadock week. But first, what
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  Speaker 1: a terrible day for the Trump haters. I mean, look
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  Speaker 1: at the Republican National Conference. Look at Donald Trump walking
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  Speaker 1: in for the first time, showing the public's wound from
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  Speaker 1: the Saturday assassination attempt on his life, the bullet that
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  Speaker 1: came within a centimeter or two of killing him. The
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  Speaker 1: crowd of the conference cheering someone who now looks invincible.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, was a terrible day for US President Joe Biden,
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  Speaker 1: for the Democrats, and for our own ABC, which last
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  Speaker 1: night screened one of the most dishonest and deluded hit
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  Speaker 1: jobs I've yet seen from them on Trump. Yesterday was
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  Speaker 1: terrible for the deranged Trump haters for one reason. Above all,
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  Speaker 1: Trump put the lie to their poison, including the ABE poison,
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  Speaker 1: last night, and what we're now seeing is the collapse
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  Speaker 1: of that media narrative that Trump is a dictator, a
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  Speaker 1: hater bent on revenge. But I'm not so surprised really
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  Speaker 1: that so many of our media and political elites, you know,
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  Speaker 1: ABC watches, many of them, have fallen for this fake picture,
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  Speaker 1: when the ABC is so biased that it still hasn't
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  Speaker 1: apologize for running this three part series on four corners
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  Speaker 1: some years ago, falsely accusing Trump of stealing the twenty
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  Speaker 1: sixteen election by colluding with Russia. Tonight we begin our
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  Speaker 1: special three part investigation into the story of the century,
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  Speaker 1: the election of US President Donald Trump and his ties
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  Speaker 1: to Russia. I might have thought that the ABC would
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  Speaker 1: pull its head in after that, but last night, I
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  Speaker 1: have to tell you it was probably even worse, with
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  Speaker 1: the first of a two part series painting Trump as
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  Speaker 1: a dictator if was elected again in November. Yet their
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  Speaker 1: very first bit of evidence of Trump the dictator was
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  Speaker 1: actually a lie, a piece of trickery to make us
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  Speaker 1: seem Trump threatened to incite bloody violence if he didn't
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  Speaker 1: win in November.
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  Speaker 2: Now, if they don't get elected, it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a bloodbath for the country.
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  Speaker 1: I do worry there's a real group of American citizens
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  Speaker 1: or are willing to engage in violence for Donald Trump. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that was just so dishonest, because let me show you
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  Speaker 1: the full quote and what the ABC left out. Trump
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  Speaker 1: was in fact talking there about imposing huge tariffs on
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  Speaker 1: Chinese made cars, and he was warning to be a
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  Speaker 1: blood bath for the US car industry for jobs if
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  Speaker 1: he were stopped.
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  Speaker 2: Put a one hundred tower on every single car that
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  Speaker 2: comes across the line, and you're not going to be
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  Speaker 2: able to sell those guys if I get elected. Now,
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  Speaker 2: if they don't get elected, it's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: blood Beth.
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  Speaker 1: How have the ABC doctor that quote to give such
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  Speaker 1: a false impression and how dare it do it again
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  Speaker 1: in that show, this time to paint Trump as a
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  Speaker 1: hitler in waiting.
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  Speaker 4: In Donald Trump's vision for America, centuries old institutions are
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  Speaker 4: there to be dismantled, and the checks and balances established
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  Speaker 4: by the founding fathers are impediments to absolute power.
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  Speaker 1: He says, you're not going to be a dictatory.
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  Speaker 3: I said no, no, no, other than they were.
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  Speaker 1: The dictator bit again once more. The full quote shows
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  Speaker 1: that Trump was actually joking at the critics running this
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous Trump as a Hitler line. He was playing with
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  Speaker 1: them with his audience at least on in on the joke.
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  Speaker 1: I love this guy.
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  Speaker 2: He says, you're not going to be a dictatory I said,
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  Speaker 2: no other than day one, we're closing the border and.
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  Speaker 3: We're drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I'm not a.
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  Speaker 1: D honestly, in running those deceithully edited videos last night
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  Speaker 1: and taking the most dramatically negative and false interpretation of them,
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  Speaker 1: the abacy was just repeating exactly the lies that Joe
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: Biden once again trotted out in his latest interview. And
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  Speaker 1: I got to say it was another really sad outing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this is Biden's supposed he is doing a
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  Speaker 1: blizzard of these interviews now after being in hiding for
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  Speaker 1: so long to try to convince Americans that his compassmentus
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  Speaker 1: and he can handle an interview without going you know,
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  Speaker 1: gago or having a brain freeze like in the debate.
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  Speaker 1: Trouble is Biden again babbled, babbled while he was forced
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  Speaker 1: to admit he was wrong to have said last week
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  Speaker 1: that Trump should be put in the bull's eye, and
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  Speaker 1: out came that dictator lie. Again.
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  Speaker 5: Look, the truth of the matter was, well, I guess
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  Speaker 5: I was talking about at the time, was there was
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  Speaker 5: very little focus on Trump's agenda. Yeah, the term as
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  Speaker 5: bull's eye with a mistake to you or I didn't.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't say crosshairs, bulls. I'm focus on it. Focus
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  Speaker 5: on what he's doing, focus on on as on his policies,
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  Speaker 5: focus on the number of lies he told to be focus.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's there's a whole range of things that Look,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not the guy that said I want to be
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  Speaker 5: a dictator on day one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that take a And then he trotted out that
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  Speaker 1: same bloodbath lie that the ABC also used last night.
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  Speaker 5: My opponents engaged that rhetoric he talks about to be
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  Speaker 5: a blood bat if he loses.
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  Speaker 1: But today and maybe it was more important. Really, Trump
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  Speaker 1: actually nailed another lie and he debunked at sipy paid
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  Speaker 1: some decisions he made totally then another anti Trump lie.
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  Speaker 1: The ABC last night called its hit job on Trump vengeance,
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  Speaker 1: as if Trump is just out for revenge against anyone
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  Speaker 1: whoever done him wrong. In fact, today we saw a
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  Speaker 1: Trump who was totally different from that. Now, for a start,
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  Speaker 1: he invited to this Republican conference the head of America's
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  Speaker 1: most famous union, a union that past Republican candide would
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  Speaker 1: have considered almost evil to have in the same room.
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  Speaker 6: It's an honor to be the first teamster in our
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  Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty one year history to address the
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  Speaker 6: Republican National Convention.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason he was there so the teams that
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  Speaker 1: have seen Trump reaching out to even them to make
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  Speaker 1: deals for the working poor.
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  Speaker 6: You can have whatever opinion you want, but one thing
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  Speaker 6: is Claire. President Trump is a candidate who was not
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  Speaker 6: afraid of hearing from new, loud and often critical voices.
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  Speaker 6: And I think we all can agree whether people like
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  Speaker 6: him or they don't like him, in light of what
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  Speaker 6: happened to him on Saturday, he has proven to be
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  Speaker 6: one tough SOB.
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  Speaker 1: That's going to go down a treat with the working class.
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  Speaker 1: But even more telling was Trump today announcing his pick
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  Speaker 1: as vice president. The pick thirty nine year old JD. Vance,
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  Speaker 1: is a Senator from Ohio, and in doing that, he
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  Speaker 1: was forgiving Vance, this guy that's supposedly out for revenge.
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  Speaker 1: He was forgiving Vance for once calling Trump the worst
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  Speaker 1: names the sort of abuse the ABC would have loved.
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  Speaker 7: You've said, I've never I'm a never Trump guy, never
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  Speaker 7: liked him, terrible candidate, idiot if you voted for him,
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  Speaker 7: might be America's Hitler, might be a nicle ahole, cultural heroine,
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  Speaker 7: noxious and reprehensible. Those are things that the Left is
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  Speaker 7: going to come after you, and they're probably going to
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  Speaker 7: be put in ads should you be chosen as the
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  Speaker 7: VP pick.
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  Speaker 3: How do you deal with them?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the simple answer is you've got to
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  Speaker 8: respect the American people enough to just level with him. Look,
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  Speaker 8: I was wrong about Donald Trump. I didn't think he
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  Speaker 8: was going to be good president, Brett. He was a
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  Speaker 8: great president, and it's one of the reasons why I'm
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  Speaker 8: working so hard to make sure.
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  Speaker 9: He gets the second term.
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  Speaker 8: I think you should when you're wrong about something, you
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  Speaker 8: should change your mind and be honest with people about
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  Speaker 8: that fact.
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  Speaker 1: Evans wasn't just picked down for being a Trump loyalist,
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  Speaker 1: you know, someone who was sucking up to get ahead.
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  Speaker 1: He also represents exactly what Trump says is about helping
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  Speaker 1: the working poor make good and not simply by playing
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  Speaker 1: victim politics throwing handouts around. In that Jdie Vance grew
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  Speaker 1: up dirt poor himself, and he wrote about it in
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  Speaker 1: his best Show of the Hillbilly Elergy. Fine book. I
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  Speaker 1: recommend you read it. It's about how his mother struggled
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  Speaker 1: with addictions, how he raises their boy, his grandparents. Other
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  Speaker 1: than education, hillbilly's their call. They talked about the hillbilly culture,
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  Speaker 1: didn't have much truck with the self pitying, but their
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  Speaker 1: factory fodder. He said, they were my neighbors, they were
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  Speaker 1: my friends. But he really thought there was something he
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  Speaker 1: could do to get out of this. And the film
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  Speaker 1: of his book, well it spelled it out.
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  Speaker 3: I know I could have done that, So you got
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  Speaker 3: to decide might have?
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  Speaker 1: And Vanstead he joined the Marines, served in Afghanistan, found
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  Speaker 1: his confidence, found his voice, got a scholarship to go
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  Speaker 1: to one of America's finance universities, Yale, and topped his
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  Speaker 1: law school. Became a successful venture capitalist. And now this
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  Speaker 1: did your Vice President. It's the American dream as sold
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  Speaker 1: by Donald Trump in this powerful new ad aimed at
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  Speaker 1: the working class. Let me tell you something you already know.
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  Speaker 1: The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very
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  Speaker 1: mean and nasty place. And I don't care how.
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  Speaker 3: Tough you are.
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  Speaker 6: It will beat you to your knees and keep you
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  Speaker 6: there permanently if you let it.
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  Speaker 4: Me and nobody is going to hit as hard as life.
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  Speaker 3: But I hate about how hard you hit.
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  Speaker 6: It's about how hard you can't get hit.
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  Speaker 3: They keep moving forward.
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  Speaker 10: How much you can take, they keep moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: That's how win it has done. No one can say
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  Speaker 1: that Trump hasn't lived that very message himself. Now, there
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: are lots of reasons not to like Trump. I know that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've hated his abuse, hated his reaction to
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  Speaker 1: losing the selection, called it out of the time. I
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  Speaker 1: really I don't like his weakness in the defense of Ukraine.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a real big flaw. But I admire
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  Speaker 1: his courage. I respect the people he's fighting for. I
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  Speaker 1: respect his fighting for the poor, and I trust his
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  Speaker 1: strength against say, China, more than I trust Biden's. And
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  Speaker 1: I reckon JD. Vance will not be the last person
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  Speaker 1: who will now change his mind about Donald Trump if
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  Speaker 1: the media start telling the truth. Joining me is Mick Mulvainy.
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  Speaker 1: He is a former Republican congressman who served as acting
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  Speaker 1: chief of staff to Donald Trump for the last year
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  Speaker 1: of Trump's presidency. McK mulvainy, thank you so much for
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  Speaker 1: your time. I mean, that has to be the most
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  Speaker 1: dramatic entrance that a presidential candidate has ever made at
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  Speaker 1: a national convention of either party. An he bandaged from
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  Speaker 1: an assassination attempt.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Andrew, but it's a pretty high price to pay.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure I want to go through it he
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  Speaker 3: went through in order to be able to make that
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  Speaker 3: entrance like that, But yeah, it's pretty dramatic. And my
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  Speaker 3: guess is there's going to be a tremendous amount of
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  Speaker 3: tension this weekend to the convention because of what happened
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday, and that Thursday's event will be even more
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  Speaker 3: dramatic than what we saw tonight here in the US.
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  Speaker 1: The Republicans at that convention seemed extremely fired up. Not
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  Speaker 1: in an aggressive way. I mean, if the bullet had
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  Speaker 1: gone a couple of millimeters to the right, I think
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  Speaker 1: it'd be a very different mood, but almost like they've
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  Speaker 1: got a champion that cannot be destroyed, whether it's by
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  Speaker 1: a bullet or by this incredible legal action that the
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  Speaker 1: Democrat prosecutors have launched. Whatever, it's just been extraordinary, and
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  Speaker 1: it seems actually almost serene just looking at him, that
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  Speaker 1: he's got this.
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  Speaker 3: I noticed the same things as you probably know. I
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  Speaker 3: spent a little bit of time with him, and he
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  Speaker 3: looked serene. That's a wonderful way to put it. Keep
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  Speaker 3: in mind that the word went out from the Republican
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  Speaker 3: National Convention to all of the speakers, all of the
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  Speaker 3: participants that unity was going to be the theme here,
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  Speaker 3: that revenge was not going to be the theme, That
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: anger over the shooting was not going to be the theme.
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  Speaker 3: That attacking the other side, well there's to be a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of that, but not in the same way
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  Speaker 3: that clearly the candidate, Donald Trump has decided to change
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  Speaker 3: the mood of this convention.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, a lot of people are commenting on that. I
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  Speaker 1: was wondering whether it is Donald Trump you haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: or one that wasn't there to see. I just wonder
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  Speaker 1: Migmavani the choice now of his running mate that's been announced.
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  Speaker 1: He announced it on his truth Social the choice of J. D.
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  Speaker 1: Evans in a higher centat it has only been there
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  Speaker 1: for two years. I mean, it's not a guy you'd
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  Speaker 1: look to to immediately stay been as president. Should the
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  Speaker 1: worst happen. He doesn't bring a constituency like a black
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  Speaker 1: constituency or a La Tina constituency that Senon Mark Ruby
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  Speaker 1: might have done. It seems to me this is a
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  Speaker 1: choice you would make if you thought you had the
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  Speaker 1: election in the bag and you wanted someone that you
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  Speaker 1: would be happy to work with.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's exactly right. I disagree a little bit
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  Speaker 3: with the experience thing. Keep in mind, he's been in
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: the Senate just as long as Barack Obama was. He
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: had a fairly successful private life before that, he served
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: in the military and so forth, so he does have that.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't have the constituency. You're absolutely right, Ohio. The
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  Speaker 3: state that he is from is really not at risk.
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  Speaker 3: It's solidly in the Trump camp. But I think you
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  Speaker 3: hit the nail on the head. It was Eric Trump
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: today earlier who on Sky News mentioned the word chemistry,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that's right. I think that's the operative
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: word here. Keep in mind, Donald Trump, I think is
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  Speaker 3: realized this time around that the only person that he
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  Speaker 3: could hire that he can't fire is the Vice president.
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  Speaker 3: He can replace his secretary of State, he can replace
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  Speaker 3: his chief of staff, but he can't replace the vice president.
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  Speaker 3: So if he was sanguine about his opportunities or about
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  Speaker 3: his standing right now and his chances of winning, maybe
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: he just picked somebody that he wouldn't mind working with
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  Speaker 3: for the next four years. And there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: discussion that that would had a lot to do with
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  Speaker 3: his pick. Keep in mind, I'm close friends with the
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  Speaker 3: chairman of the Republican National Committee, and he was texting
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  Speaker 3: today that not even he knew who the pick was
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: as recently as a couple of minutes before the announcement
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  Speaker 3: came out on Trump's truth social So Trump played this
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  Speaker 3: one very close to the chest. But I think your instinct,
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  Speaker 3: Andrew are right. Trump thinks he's in the driver's seat
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  Speaker 3: and he thinks it's his election to lose. I think
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  Speaker 3: he's right about that, and he just wanted a vice
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  Speaker 3: president he thinks he can work well with. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the guy started with absolutely nothing. It's a wonderful story.
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  Speaker 3: Keep in mind, well, Senator Vance is from Ohio. He's
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  Speaker 3: from eastern Ohio, And if you don't understand the geography
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: of the US, and a lot of folks who live
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  Speaker 3: here don't, that's almost closer to Pennsylvania than Iowa is
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  Speaker 3: to eastern Ohio. It's very similar. It's sort of the
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  Speaker 3: Appalachian Mountains region of our country, and that area of
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  Speaker 3: the country is very similar, even though you're in a
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  Speaker 3: different state. So I think that the Trump team is
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  Speaker 3: hoping he can deliver that message in western Pennsylvania, which
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  Speaker 3: is a swing state. Michigan another rust belt state. Maybe JD.
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  Speaker 3: Vance's bootstrap Yourself to success story can help. And he's
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  Speaker 3: a nice guy, he just is He's a devout Roman Catholic,
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  Speaker 3: and that might help sell in Wisconsin and Minnesota. So
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  Speaker 3: actually we're talking with a Republican leaders member of the
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  Speaker 3: Republican leadership from Minnesota today and he thinks that with
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  Speaker 3: JD Vance and the Vice president of Slot, Minnesota will
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  Speaker 3: be now a swing state, a state that Trump might
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  Speaker 3: be able to pick up. So it's a lot of
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: dynamics there. But I keep coming back to the chemistry
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  Speaker 3: issue that Eric Trump raised. I think all those other
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  Speaker 3: things we've just mentioned our bonus. I think Donald Trump
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  Speaker 3: picked him because he liked him and thinks he can
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  Speaker 3: work with him. For four years.
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  Speaker 1: Now, you've been having worked with Trump, you've supported Trump.
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  Speaker 1: You must be absolutely amazed that some people. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of people have this idea that Donald Trump is a
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  Speaker 1: dictator and waiting as a monster who is going to
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  Speaker 1: tear the constitutional parties out for revenge. And this incredible thing.
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  Speaker 1: Our national broadcast, even after Donald Trump escaped assassin's bullet
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  Speaker 1: last night, had a program going through exactly that script,
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  Speaker 1: that Democrat script, that this is a man you've got
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  Speaker 1: a fear and hate. How do you explain that dichotomy
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  Speaker 1: of the man you see and the man that the
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: elite media, so to speak, presents.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Use the right word, and that's the elite, the elitist
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  Speaker 3: in this country. That look, Donald Trump has his weakness,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: as every one of us does. And I understand the
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: criticisms of his policy, and I certainly understand the criticisms
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: of some of his mannerisms. And certainly January sixth is
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: nothing to be proud of. It was a significant problem,
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  Speaker 3: there's no reason, no question about. It's the reason that
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  Speaker 3: I quit the administration. But there's not a straight line
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  Speaker 3: from that to an existential threat to the American democracy.
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  Speaker 3: One of the leading shows in this country this morning
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  Speaker 3: on the leading left leaning, left leaning network, actually went
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  Speaker 3: off the air. They did not have a show on
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  Speaker 3: Today because the network was concerned about what the people
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  Speaker 3: on that show might say. So there is certainly a
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: heavy dose of what we call Trump derangement syndrome. People
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: for whom Donald Trump really is the devil. He really
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  Speaker 3: is Adolf Hitler reincarnated, and it's their verbiage that has
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: become their language is becoming under a great deal of
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: scurtiny since the shooting on Saturday. So, but Donald Trump
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: is a divisive figure, There's no question about it. He's
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: managed to win one election being a divisive figure. He
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: lost another. I think one of the most interesting things
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: in the next seventy two hours is going to be
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: is he going to try to win in twenty twenty
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: four continuing that divisiveness, taking the theory that his side
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: is larger than the other side, or is he going
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: to try and pivot and be somewhat of a unifier.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: I think that would be fascinating to watch. But in
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: later the shooting on Saturday gets certainly outside the bounds
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: of possibility.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: No, I think it's really interesting that you can maintain it.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: But I think it's an absolutely winning formula. That show
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: you mentioned, of course, was The Morning Joe with that
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: if I was employing Joe Scarborough, I wouldn't. I wouldn't
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: trust him within a coowie of a microphone either right
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: at the moment. But there you go, mcmutvani, thank you
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: so much for your time and rather that's for toxic
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: this CFMU scandal. It's getting even worse for labor, both
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: the Albanizy government and the Victorian labor Premier Justiner Allen.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: The recking like these latest allegations of corruption and organized
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: crime figures in the most aggressive union, the CFMAU It's
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: construction arm. Oh what a complete surprise. Why did someone
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: tell them? Well now we're told that, in fact someone did.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Both the Prime Minister and the Premier Allen were worn
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: in a two years ago, for instance, by an indigenous
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: labor hier firm. That's c IFMU officials who are threatening
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: extreme violence and unlawfully black manning non union preferred firms
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: from state and federally funded projects. Now Alan's been in
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: charge of major produce in Victoria since twenty fourteen. You
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: think she'd know, Well, she didn't respond to this letter
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: for a year and then told the labor horror firm
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: it was a federal matter. Anyway. Now, Alan was all
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: out of excuses, Yester. They even confronted with this case.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Why did it take you an eight year to respond?
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: What what have you got?
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: That shows that they were put to me in writing?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Well today she said I was an office mixed up. Sorry.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: What a scandal though, because you've got to remember this,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: This union, which has been extorting businesses, donated more than
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: four million dollars to labor, including federally, in the year
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: before the Albanezi government was elected. And with this demand
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: scrap the building watchdog that was chasing it in the courts,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: scrap the Australian Building and Construction Commission, which the Albanezi
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: government then did so. I think that four million dollars
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: should now be returned by labor to taxpayers, who are
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: the ultimate losers as a union seems in my opinion
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: to be effectively paying labor to look the other way
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: as it runs a mark, driving up the costs of
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: major projects, making all of us pay for labour's little earner.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Joining me as Damon Johnson, the Victorian editor of the
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Australian newspaper who's been examining the links between labor and
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: the CFMU. Damon Johnson, Thank you so much for your time.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: What is the CFME you got over Labor.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Well, Andrew.
• 22:51
  Speaker 11: To understand the answer to that question, you have to
• 22:55
  Speaker 11: realize that the CFMU and the Victorian ALEP are embedded
• 23:00
  Speaker 11: in each other. This is not some recent example of
• 23:05
  Speaker 11: you know, political, you know, companionship. This is a couple
• 23:10
  Speaker 11: of fellow travelers c FMU and the Victorian ALP who
• 23:14
  Speaker 11: have been walking together now for many, many years. And
• 23:17
  Speaker 11: it's more than just the money. Sure, John Secker's reign
• 23:20
  Speaker 11: has seen hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars poured
• 23:23
  Speaker 11: into the Victorian ALP.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Coffers, but it's also.
• 23:28
  Speaker 11: Years of close personal friendships, allegiances, factional deals all involving
• 23:35
  Speaker 11: the CFMU. You know, they get numbers on pre selection committees.
• 23:40
  Speaker 11: They are very much embedded in the foundations of the
• 23:43
  Speaker 11: Victorian ALP.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: So when Labor is saying we're going to tackle you know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: we're going to tackle this CFMU problem, this is this
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: is really an inter family brawl.
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: I think it is.
• 24:00
  Speaker 11: Look Premier Justinter Allen did come out pretty hard yesterday.
• 24:04
  Speaker 11: You know, she's referred the allegations in nine newspapers to
• 24:09
  Speaker 11: Iback and Victoria Police. We'll have to wait and see
• 24:12
  Speaker 11: how serious both organizations take that approach. IBAC has a
• 24:17
  Speaker 11: long history of taking a very long time to do anything,
• 24:20
  Speaker 11: and Victoria Police, as we saw with the Red Shirts,
• 24:23
  Speaker 11: was not really that keen on investigating political corruption. They've
• 24:29
  Speaker 11: also suspended the CFMU from the ALP, but I think
• 24:35
  Speaker 11: it did fall short. I think the allegations justified calling
• 24:38
  Speaker 11: a royal commission and the premier didn't do that.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm not surprised now, Damon you're saying, look,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: there's friendships, there's pre selection votes from the CFMU has
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: got party membership and all that suspended for now. But mate,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I am such a believer in follow the money. Money
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: ins a lot of minds. How much money are we
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: talking about with labor.
• 25:06
  Speaker 11: Well nationally and you have to remember that, you know,
• 25:09
  Speaker 11: the Victorian ALP has you know, obviously the Victorian branch,
• 25:13
  Speaker 11: but it also helps bankroll the alban Easy Labor Party federally.
• 25:19
  Speaker 11: So I think the last number was four or five
• 25:23
  Speaker 11: million dollars that the CFMY used branches, not just the
• 25:27
  Speaker 11: Victorian branch, but overall had poured into the Labor Party
• 25:31
  Speaker 11: at a Victorian level. In the ten or so years
• 25:33
  Speaker 11: that SECA has run that union, it's been hundreds and
• 25:37
  Speaker 11: hundreds of thousands of dollars, probably over a million, and
• 25:40
  Speaker 11: that's substantial money and obviously that buys access. You combine
• 25:45
  Speaker 11: that with the factional support that the union gives various
• 25:50
  Speaker 11: aspiring politicians. You know, the alliance has run deep into
• 25:55
  Speaker 11: the Labor Party caucus. So it's going to be very
• 25:57
  Speaker 11: interesting to see what the practical impacts of what the
• 26:01
  Speaker 11: premier announced yesterday are.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, what is this costing taxpayers and builders?
• 26:12
  Speaker 11: Well, here's the thing, and this is I think the
• 26:15
  Speaker 11: real point of this.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Long running question about the CFMEU.
• 26:23
  Speaker 11: Why did the former Premier Daniel Andrews and the current
• 26:27
  Speaker 11: Premier Jasinter Allen, why were they so willing to allow
• 26:31
  Speaker 11: the CFMU to dominate the industrial agreements covering the Big Bill,
• 26:35
  Speaker 11: the various tunnels, bridges, level crossing removals in Victoria. There
• 26:41
  Speaker 11: are labour people that have told me that getting the
• 26:43
  Speaker 11: CFMEU to control these sites increase the cost by twenty percent.
• 26:48
  Speaker 11: These same labor people told me that they did it.
• 26:53
  Speaker 11: The former premier did this because unless the CFMU had
• 26:58
  Speaker 11: control of those sites, they would have caused industrial havoc,
• 27:03
  Speaker 11: and so he was more keen on having them delivered,
• 27:07
  Speaker 11: albeit at a premium cost.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: The projects a lot of money and they've all exploded
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: in the total budget under Center Allen all the major
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: public projects. But she doesn't seem to care much. She
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: didn't seem to be curious about whether the unions might
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: have had a partner to plan. That issue is things.
• 27:26
  Speaker 10: Do cost what they cost.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: DamID Johnson. Is it really credible the Justina Allen, after
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: being in charge of major public projects making deals with
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the CFMU since twenty fourteen, could not have known even
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a whisper of the kind of stuff we're hearing about now.
• 27:47
  Speaker 11: Oh no, she would have known for sure. Daniel Andrews
• 27:49
  Speaker 11: would have known. In fact, the whole world knew Andrew
• 27:52
  Speaker 11: The media, The Herald Sun, the Age, The Australian's been
• 27:55
  Speaker 11: writing about the bikey connections to the CFMU for well
• 27:59
  Speaker 11: over ten years. What was reported was probably the most
• 28:03
  Speaker 11: comprehensive narrative laid down. It pulled together a series of
• 28:08
  Speaker 11: strands and pieces of the puzzle and it was a
• 28:11
  Speaker 11: very powerful piece of journalism. But this is a lot
• 28:16
  Speaker 11: of these allegations have variously been aired before, and so
• 28:21
  Speaker 11: it doesn't add up. The current premier or the former
• 28:25
  Speaker 11: premier worn't aware of who they were dealing with. In
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: John Sicker and his CFMAU they knew, but they were
• 28:32
  Speaker 11: willing to deal with him.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Damon Johnson, thank you so much for your time. And
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: let me just repeat, the Labor Party has to give
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: back that money it got from this union under this
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: dodgy deal, and that's come out of our pockets ultimately
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: in the end. Thank you so much, Damon Andrew. Now,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: what we're seeing in American pols, particularly with Donald Trump,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: is also happening here in the US. The Trump Republicans, Conservatives,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: they're looking more to the working poor, to blue collar workers,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: to the forgotten battlers. Now in Australia, that's increasingly what
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: our conservative parties are doing, the Liberals and the Nationals,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: while Labour becomes the party of the inner city elites,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: just like the US Democrats. For instance, in our last
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: federal election, did you know the ten poorest election electorates
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: in the country all voted for the Coalition of the
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: ten richest, four voted Labor like canber and Sydney, and
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: four for the Left wing teal independence. So forget that
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: old idea. The Liberals were the party of the rich
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: and labor the party of the poor. Increasingly it is
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: now the other way around. Joining me is our Tuesday
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: regular guest National Senator Matt Canavan, the former Resources Minister. Matt,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Good to see you. Look, is there something for conservatives
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: to learn from Trump? I mean, go for the working
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: poor and not with handout so much, not the labor way,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: but with opportunities and hope.
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: Well, yes and no. I mean I think this is
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: a lesson that we should have learned before, long before Trump.
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: There's been a phenomenon going on for some time where
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: the Labor Party, as you've said, has become the party
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: of the tertiary educated professional classes, obsessed with elite sort
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: of issues like climate change and previously gay marriage. And
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: those in our myths that have to work hard for
• 30:41
  Speaker 9: their dollar, the so called I suppose lunchbox Australians that
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: have to go after work every day, not assarily in
• 30:46
  Speaker 9: an office. They found themselves politically homeless. And these people
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: are really the backbone of our nation. They work very hard,
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: they want to get ahead, they care about their children,
• 30:55
  Speaker 9: they're patriotic, Australians. They love their country and they haven't
• 30:58
  Speaker 9: felt like they've had a home. Many of them have
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: been lifelong generational labor voters, and there's a real opportunity there.
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: There should be some political party, some political movement should
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: be representing these great Australians, and I think Tony Abat
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: did that with his Toinese tradees long before Donald Trump
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: came on the scene. We've seen a similar phenomenon in
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: the UK, and likewise, when Scott Morrison first became Prime
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: Minister in that first election in twenty nineteen, you know,
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: he backed the coal industry, stood up to the green
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: movement that wanted to shut industries down this country, and
• 31:25
  Speaker 9: one the support of largest ways of the working class
• 31:28
  Speaker 9: of Australia. So it's a recipe for political success, but
• 31:31
  Speaker 9: it's also more importantly the right thing to do to
• 31:35
  Speaker 9: back these people who want to back their own country,
• 31:37
  Speaker 9: who just care about the situation they face right now
• 31:40
  Speaker 9: where they struggling to pay their shopping bills, let alone
• 31:42
  Speaker 9: their mortgage costs, and there needs to be a political
• 31:45
  Speaker 9: party for them. It's why I think we should scrap
• 31:47
  Speaker 9: the net zero targets because what's happening in Canberra is
• 31:50
  Speaker 9: all the departments, all the bureaucrats, including the thirty thousand
• 31:52
  Speaker 9: more labors hired since they've been in office two years ago.
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: They're all focused on a climate change target. And I
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: think what we need is a leader, a Prime minister
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: who comes and says, well, why I don't want you
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: to do that. I want you to focus on a
• 32:04
  Speaker 9: cost of living target. That should be the only target
• 32:06
  Speaker 9: in front of the minds of the bureaucracy of Canberra,
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: because it is the cost of living is inflation which
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: is crushing the middle and working classes of this country,
• 32:13
  Speaker 9: and they deserve someone to champion their couse.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Well, I think backing you up on exactly that point
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: is the latest poll in the known newspapers now that
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: shows the coalition increasing its support, so it's now fifty
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: to fifty with the Albanesi governed after preferences. Even more interesting, Matt,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: is that Labour's primary vote is now at just twenty
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: eight percent. I mean, that's incredible, to the lowest level
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: since the election. And the message seems to be fifty
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: five percent of people saying, well, look, they expect the
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: cost of living to get even worse. They're under pressure
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: thirty percent saying they're paying more than their earning. I mean,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: that's a dreadful figure. If true. Doesn't that tell you
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: that this government is in huge trouble.
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: Well, they just haven't unpresenting solutions for people. I mean
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: the problems are very clear and present to underline by
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: the statistics you've just shown that most Australian families are
• 33:10
  Speaker 9: really struggling right now. Yet the government continues to talk
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: about climate change changing the temperature of the globe. I mean,
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: what is this? I mean, what's that got to do
• 33:19
  Speaker 9: with helping people balance their budgets this week, especially when
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: China and India are just allowed to admit whatever they like.
• 33:26
  Speaker 9: The government that spent all of last year and spent
• 33:28
  Speaker 9: hundreds of millions of taxpayers dollars on a deviceive change
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: to our constitution again which would have made no difference
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: to the average struggles of working day Australian. So that's
• 33:38
  Speaker 9: what their need right now, That's what the Australian people
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: are crying out for. And I think Peter Dutty is
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: showing that leadership with backing nuclear power something brave and
• 33:47
  Speaker 9: courageous at least a solution of some type. But as
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: I say, I do come back to I think we
• 33:51
  Speaker 9: need to do more. We need to just get rid
• 33:53
  Speaker 9: of this entire climate cult that has taken over canbra
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: taken over your capital and subvert that the priorities and
• 34:01
  Speaker 9: interests of this country on on a pire of nothingness.
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: It's not going to change the environment, but we're wasting
• 34:07
  Speaker 9: billions and billions of dollars. It's costing un enormous amount
• 34:11
  Speaker 9: of tax paid dollars and it's helping push up inflation
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: as well. Let's focus on using all advanergy resources like coal,
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: like as let's let's let's not let's get out of
• 34:20
  Speaker 9: these international agreements that no other country is adhering to,
• 34:23
  Speaker 9: and focus and put focus on the people of Australia
• 34:26
  Speaker 9: and put this country first.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned taking the temperature of the of the planet.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Maybe the government should pay more attention to taking the
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: temperature in people's own houses. You know, I have been
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: told of people, someone close to me, we're actually talking
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: to one who said, we can't afford to heat our
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: home with this bitter winter. I mean the prices are
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: too hard for them. I mean that's the temperature that
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: should be taken. Some of these houses, and they're almost
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: like death traps for the elderly because of the heating
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: price now mentioned at the top of the show, Matt
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Canavan the disgraceful the ABC put out on Four Corners
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: the last night. I don't know whether you saw it,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: just two days after Trump was shot in an assassination attempt,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: warning that it was Trump who threatened violence, that he
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: was the threat to democracy, and editing quotes dishonestly to
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: make it seem that Trump had threatened a blood bath
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: if it wasn't elected. It was actually talking about the
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: car industry. Look, I keep hearing liberals and nationals complain
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: about the ABC's bias, and nothing gets better, It only
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: gets worse. What I raally hear is what the coalition
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: would actually do about it.
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah, look, I didn't see it, but I've seen the
• 35:38
  Speaker 9: written reports on the back of the show, and I
• 35:41
  Speaker 9: don't know why our taxpayer dollars are going to regurgitate
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: the talking points of the American Democrat Party, because that's
• 35:47
  Speaker 9: what that show read like, absurd, over the over the
• 35:52
  Speaker 9: top arguments put there on our national broadcaster. In terms
• 35:55
  Speaker 9: of what I do, look, I think if I can
• 35:58
  Speaker 9: be as Bob say that what we need is more
• 36:00
  Speaker 9: petition here and up here in regional Australia. We're very
• 36:03
  Speaker 9: lucky to have Sky News on free to air TV
• 36:06
  Speaker 9: and in my experience and it's pretty much put the
• 36:10
  Speaker 9: sword to the ABC. It's completely irrelevant up here now
• 36:13
  Speaker 9: because people will just switch on Sky almost invariably because
• 36:16
  Speaker 9: it's something that talks to them more. We need to
• 36:18
  Speaker 9: get that in metropolitan areas as well. Let's do that.
• 36:20
  Speaker 9: Let's have a choice, Let's have people. If you want
• 36:22
  Speaker 9: to watch ABC twenty four if you need to get
• 36:24
  Speaker 9: to sleep, you're struggling to get to sleep, Chuck on
• 36:26
  Speaker 9: ABC twenty four. It usually does the trick for me.
• 36:29
  Speaker 9: But if you want to get some real news, some
• 36:31
  Speaker 9: diversity of opinion, even because you do get that, let's
• 36:34
  Speaker 9: make Sky News available all Australians. I think that's a
• 36:36
  Speaker 9: good idea.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're all available. The thing is one of
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: them gets a billion dollars plus a year and the
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: others don't. My view is, if you want the ABC,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: if it really is so valuable, if it really is
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: so trusted, I'm sure people are digging into their own
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: pocket and pay for it like our loyal subscribers do
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: at Sky News. Let's everyone pay for what they want
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: and see how we go there. Can you imagine what
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: the ABC viewership would be at that time. Matt Canavan,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: thank you so much indeed for your time and to
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: the panel. Look, we have to resist the people who
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: are dividing us. You take Nadock Week, it's just finished,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: a whole week to celebrate Aboriginal culture increasingly though, attack
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: white sins, you know, colonization, the whole thing, looking at
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: the past, past past. This was the official slogan this
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: week of this Natock Week, Black loud and proud. Now
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: think about that. What if the sign had said white,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: loud and proud. You'd call that racist. I'm sure you'd
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: see it quite clearly and you wouldn't be wrong. But
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: it seems that some kinds of racism are now good.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: In fact, the ABC marked NADOC Week with a video
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: featuring featuring Aborigines, some very successful in fact film directors.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: People like that a professor or something still plain about
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Australian racism, and some indulging in the crudest kind of
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: racial stereotypes against what they called Gobba's an insulting Aboriginal
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: name for whites.
• 38:12
  Speaker 12: I've got more rhythm in my pinky tooe, my left
• 38:15
  Speaker 12: pinky tooe than what these gabas got.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I'm joined by my Tuesday panel, Will Kingston, host of
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: at Will. Maybe we should change that after the last
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: few days, a weekly podcast from The Spectator on politics
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: and culture and sky Newsst. Denico di Giorgio is hosting
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: just about everywhere on Sky News. At the moment, someone
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: who's always there as the fire Lady Will is some
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: kind of racism.
• 38:43
  Speaker 12: Good, then, well, I don't have a problem with people
• 38:48
  Speaker 12: being proud of their cultural heritage. But don't make me
• 38:51
  Speaker 12: go along with this mystic nonsense that suggests that just
• 38:54
  Speaker 12: because you have some distant indigenous ancestry, you have more
• 38:59
  Speaker 12: natural rhythm like that man suggested, or you are somehow
• 39:02
  Speaker 12: more resilient, or you're somehow a better storyteller, as other
• 39:06
  Speaker 12: people in that video have suggested. We don't do this
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  Speaker 12: in any other realm, Andrew. We don't suggest that just
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  Speaker 12: because you're the CEO's son, you're somehow a naturally brilliant
• 39:16
  Speaker 12: business person. And the thing is, here's the rub. If
• 39:19
  Speaker 12: you make these sorts of comments, you open the door
• 39:22
  Speaker 12: for people to say that there are innate negative characteristics
• 39:25
  Speaker 12: of Indigenous people. You can throw out every characteristic you want,
• 39:28
  Speaker 12: or every stereotype you want, like alcoholism, shoplifting, whatever, and
• 39:32
  Speaker 12: say that this is an Indigenous quality. We shouldn't do that,
• 39:35
  Speaker 12: just as we shouldn't make up these silly stories that
• 39:38
  Speaker 12: there are Indigenous qualities that somehow need to be revered
• 39:42
  Speaker 12: in hushed, reverential tones.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I agree, and Denika I would also say, wouldn't it
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: be such a blessing if nateoc week, if we really
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: did need it, if we really did need to patronize
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: one race in the country every year for a week,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: If it was instead soaked up by people being hailed
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: as success sore is. Look at this person who succeeded
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: in business, Look at this person who succeeded as an academic. Wonderful.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: How this person sees the opportunity like you're seeing in
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: America with this Jade Evans sees the opportunity to make
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: something of themselves instead of the wing gin.
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  Speaker 10: Absolutely, and as in Australian you would be proud of that.
• 40:25
  Speaker 10: You would go, well, they've achieved so much. Good on them,
• 40:28
  Speaker 10: I'm so happy. And yet it is presented to us
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: in such a divisive way that it once again divides
• 40:35
  Speaker 10: the public. And you asked before, Andrew, is that it's
• 40:38
  Speaker 10: some racism? Okay, No, no racism is okay at all.
• 40:42
  Speaker 10: But the problem that we've got right now is that
• 40:45
  Speaker 10: it only applies to certain groups of people who believe
• 40:48
  Speaker 10: that racism towards white people are non existent, that it's
• 40:52
  Speaker 10: some sort of a myth.
• 40:54
  Speaker 9: It's this bizarre.
• 40:55
  Speaker 10: Identity politics that's constantly being peddled, and the left is
• 40:59
  Speaker 10: obsessed with race politics. They simply won't confront their own
• 41:03
  Speaker 10: double standards when the shoe is on the other foot.
• 41:05
  Speaker 10: I'll give you another really quick example. Look what happened
• 41:08
  Speaker 10: earlier this year with Sam Kerr when she was accused
• 41:11
  Speaker 10: of calling a police officer a stupid white bastard. The
• 41:17
  Speaker 10: left wing media, the lefties of society, who are always
• 41:21
  Speaker 10: perpetually outraged, would you believe it, said nothing because they
• 41:24
  Speaker 10: don't believe that reverse racism exists.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I mentioned the ABC's really the poison it was spreading
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: about Donald Trump being bloodthirsty, threatening revenge, want to be
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: a dictator. This kind of stuff is making our lift
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: absolutely crazy. And I've got to say also, a bit frightening.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: You haven't listened to the audience reaction at a Sydney
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: concert on Sunday, the Tenacious D band of American comedian
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Jack Black, who I should say starred a month ago
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: at a massive high would fundraise for Joe Barden. That
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: was the one that George Clooney co hosted, and in Sydney.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: At the Sydney concert, Black gave a birthday cake to
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: one of his band members, who then wished that the
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: next person who would try to assassinate Donald Trump wouldn't
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: this time? Miss have listened.
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: Trump next time.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Now, this band has now had his Newcastle concert postponed
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: for unknown or unsaid reasons. But the crowd reaction there
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: really I got to say, these are barbarians who are
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: walking amongst this. Don't you think? What do you make
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: of that? Mate? Well?
• 42:49
  Speaker 12: Yes, but the thing which they must realize is how
• 42:53
  Speaker 12: counterproductive these sorts of comments and then those sorts of
• 42:56
  Speaker 12: reactions are. These are the sorts of reactions that will
• 43:00
  Speaker 12: sweep Trump back into the White House. And I've got
• 43:03
  Speaker 12: this sneaking suspicion that these types of people, in their
• 43:07
  Speaker 12: heart of hearts secretly wouldn't mind that because it gives
• 43:10
  Speaker 12: them another four years of feeling morally superior to racist,
• 43:14
  Speaker 12: bigoted for Trump voters. It was the same thing with
• 43:18
  Speaker 12: the voices incident in Australia. I think that this is
• 43:21
  Speaker 12: such a big moral class divide, and I think these
• 43:25
  Speaker 12: types of people like sniggering at people who they perceive
• 43:28
  Speaker 12: to be beneath them.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that. I'm always suspicious about assuming
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: that their motives are this, or that their motives in
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: this go simply to beat the Democrats and have beat
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: the Republicans who let the Democrats win. No, I think
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: it's just an expression of utter hatred, a barbarianism that's
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: sort of overtaken so much of the left. Now, what
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: do you make of this?
• 43:52
  Speaker 10: Thanika Andrew Tenacious d have taken d for deranged way
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: too far here. Let's not forget. But somebody died. Somebody
• 44:02
  Speaker 10: died in Pennsylvania over the weekend. Multiple people were injured,
• 44:06
  Speaker 10: and the fact that a former president was millimeters away
• 44:11
  Speaker 10: from being killed should send shock waves around the world.
• 44:15
  Speaker 10: And for the large part it has so to have
• 44:17
  Speaker 10: this has been banned come into Australia, treat Australians with
• 44:22
  Speaker 10: such contempt is absolutely disgusting. Jack Black, go home. We
• 44:27
  Speaker 10: don't want your nonsense here. It is absolutely unacceptable behavior.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Well, I disagree with you. You said as it has
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: been banned. That's false. It's never been banned. And I
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: asked the start whether some racism was good it's some
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: sexism good will. Because there's been a lot of online
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: debate after the Trump shooting about the reaction of female
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Secret Service agents who were on the scene. The Secret
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Service actually has an affirmative action hiring policy once more
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: women thirty percent, I believe, and these particular women guarding
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Trump as he got into his car, look, I have
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: to say at least the comment maybe I'm being unfair,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: you have a look seemed a little bit lost. Won't
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: even add trouble holstering her gun. Well, I know a
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: lot of panic was going on there, but it wasn't
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: a very flattering picture that.
• 45:51
  Speaker 12: No, Well, there's a simple way to get to the
• 45:53
  Speaker 12: bottom of this. Were the requirements for the Secret Service
• 45:57
  Speaker 12: the same for men and women? And if they were,
• 46:00
  Speaker 12: have those requirements been lowered to hit that affirmative action target?
• 46:04
  Speaker 12: The reality is there are biological differences between men and
• 46:08
  Speaker 12: women as much as people on the left may hate
• 46:10
  Speaker 12: to admit that. And this is a job which requires
• 46:13
  Speaker 12: physical attributes in order to do it effectively. You need
• 46:16
  Speaker 12: to be able to carry the president or former president
• 46:18
  Speaker 12: out of a burning building. And the reality is that
• 46:20
  Speaker 12: woman would not be able to satisfy that test. This
• 46:23
  Speaker 12: is another example of well meaning workery that has very
• 46:27
  Speaker 12: very dangerous consequences.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Denika amount of time. But since you are the woman
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: on this panel, I better let you have a quick go.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Like you said, we might be unfair. We don't know
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the full picture.
• 46:42
  Speaker 9: Andrew put it this way. The Secret Service put.
• 46:44
  Speaker 10: Out an ad campaign last year boasting about its diversity picks,
• 46:48
  Speaker 10: and we've seen over the weekend the results of that diversity.
• 46:51
  Speaker 10: Donald Trump is one hundred and ninety centimeters tall.
• 46:54
  Speaker 12: I googled it. I had a look.
• 46:55
  Speaker 10: He needs people to match him, to be able to
• 46:58
  Speaker 10: stand in front of him and take a bullet and
• 47:00
  Speaker 10: protect him.
• 47:01
  Speaker 9: It is not sexism. It is just simple.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Facts, a question of little Math's a little ruler there
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: to Nickins Georgio Wilkinson, thank you both so much for
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: your time. After the break, King Charles writes a very
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: nice letter to Donald Trump, and I'm telling you it's
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: a sign. You know how you can tell that Donald
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Trump is going to win the November election. It's because
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: of the people now crawling to him, or to put
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: it nicely, fairly, maybe even reaching out to him. For instance,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: King Charles has written a nice message to Trump after
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: a shot by would be assassin, and Britain's new labor
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: government's foreign secretary, David Lammy is in the US tele
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Republicans he can find common cause with Trump, even though
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: seven years ago it's very same man said if Trump
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: comes to the UK, I will be out protesting in
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: the streets. He's a racist Ku klux Klan and Nazi sympathizer.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Joining me from London is broadcast author and columnists the
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Kraku your foreign sectory really interests me, I mean, apart
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: from his appalling performance on Celebrity Mastermind a few years ago,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: now saying he can make common cause with the Nazi
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Ku klux Klan supporter, or originally just admitting he's had
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: been a typical left wing idiot about Trump all along.
• 48:33
  Speaker 13: I think it's certainly more the latter than the former.
• 48:37
  Speaker 13: David Lammy is an interesting one, but actually all the
• 48:40
  Speaker 13: sort of leading members of the new cabinet are also
• 48:44
  Speaker 13: culporates of this. You have Kiir Starmer, angel Reina, David Lammie,
• 48:49
  Speaker 13: all of these people in the new government that have
• 48:52
  Speaker 13: made disparaging remarks about President Trump and now that they're
• 48:55
  Speaker 13: in government have had to roll back and pretend to
• 48:57
  Speaker 13: be diplomatic and nice with keetting Child. It's interesting and
• 49:01
  Speaker 13: this is why this is another thing that stresses the
• 49:03
  Speaker 13: importance of actually having a monarchy and not being a republic,
• 49:06
  Speaker 13: because once you politicize the head of state, you might
• 49:08
  Speaker 13: have had a situation where a President Lammie would have
• 49:11
  Speaker 13: to roll back on his comments. The late Queen, like
• 49:14
  Speaker 13: King Charles's aware, knew that she had to be diplomatic
• 49:17
  Speaker 13: and remain neutral because it doesn't matter who you meet,
• 49:20
  Speaker 13: you're representing your country. And he's taken a leaf out
• 49:23
  Speaker 13: of her book. Unfortunately, our politicians can't seem to do that.
• 49:25
  Speaker 13: And the thing is Trump has a very good memory.
• 49:28
  Speaker 13: He's not going to forget David Lammie's comments, and neither
• 49:31
  Speaker 13: is he going to forget Kis dam or Angelarina's comments
• 49:33
  Speaker 13: about him in the past. And that could actually mark
• 49:35
  Speaker 13: relations between the UK and the US moving forward. Donald
• 49:38
  Speaker 13: Trump is certainly going to be the next president of
• 49:40
  Speaker 13: the United States. And if they come back from the
• 49:42
  Speaker 13: US with their tail between their legs because they couldn't
• 49:44
  Speaker 13: secure any sort of favorable deal because of comments they
• 49:47
  Speaker 13: made seven eight years ago, that's not going to look
• 49:49
  Speaker 13: very good to the British public.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: There's other things that amaze and even disturbed me really
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: about your new labor government. I am worried as to
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: how much longer your lights are going to stay on
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: in Britain. You know, you've got this new government. It's
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: so bought the global warming thing. It's swapped the ban
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: on finding new reserves of oil in the North Sea.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: It's reverse the decision to have proven new coal mine
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: in Cambria. It's all this global warming awareness smart when
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: your country is already very dangerously short of electricity.
• 50:26
  Speaker 13: Yes, this is one of the things that we don't
• 50:28
  Speaker 13: seem to understand the lack of continuity when it comes
• 50:30
  Speaker 13: to our energy policy. And I actually think this is
• 50:32
  Speaker 13: one of those issues that shouldn't be part of the
• 50:34
  Speaker 13: energy you know, security, law and order, these other things
• 50:37
  Speaker 13: that should be really cross partisan so we can ensure
• 50:39
  Speaker 13: some sorts of continuity. You also find that you know
• 50:42
  Speaker 13: they're releasing criminals early because we haven't built enough prisons
• 50:45
  Speaker 13: on energy. In the same way, we don't have a
• 50:46
  Speaker 13: decent energy mix because we would rather close down oil
• 50:50
  Speaker 13: and gas pipelines, sell off what we have, what we
• 50:53
  Speaker 13: produce in terms of oil and gas, and then import
• 50:56
  Speaker 13: oil and gas from other countries instead of using our
• 50:58
  Speaker 13: own domestic supply. It's simply beggars belief, and that something
• 51:02
  Speaker 13: that's been undertaken by admitliband is not surprising either. This
• 51:05
  Speaker 13: is what happens when you have leaders who don't think
• 51:07
  Speaker 13: ahead and are used to the sort of short term
• 51:10
  Speaker 13: destructive thinking. We already have one of the highest energy
• 51:13
  Speaker 13: prices in the developed world, and it's only going to
• 51:15
  Speaker 13: be increasing. This is these are the kinds of things
• 51:17
  Speaker 13: that disuede investment and are going to negatively affect businesses
• 51:20
  Speaker 13: in the future. But unfortunately, we're going to have to
• 51:23
  Speaker 13: learn that the hard way, because this is not a
• 51:24
  Speaker 13: surprising development with the labor government.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: It's weird because here is a labor government pursuing middle
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: class obsessions that are going to hurt the poor most
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: of all. You mentioned the prisons. I mean, this is amazing.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: You know, you've got your Prime minister admitting we're going
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: to release thousands of prisoners to stop overcrowding of the prisons.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I would have thought the answer would be building more
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: prisons or something like that. Silly me. Is this a
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: popular move?
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: Of course not.
• 51:54
  Speaker 13: I mean one of the things that people have been
• 51:55
  Speaker 13: talking about is the fact that we have a lot
• 51:56
  Speaker 13: of foreign national offenders in our prisons that cannot be
• 52:00
  Speaker 13: sent back home to be deported. We have about twelve thousand,
• 52:03
  Speaker 13: my last count, twelve thousand finos as they're called for
• 52:05
  Speaker 13: our national offenders that cannot be deported that are stuck
• 52:08
  Speaker 13: here in this country occupying prison spaces. We have fourteen
• 52:12
  Speaker 13: thousand people in prison for drug offenses like owning marijuana.
• 52:15
  Speaker 9: These are all.
• 52:15
  Speaker 13: Questions that twenty years of governments could have solved. Twenty
• 52:19
  Speaker 13: years of successive governments could have solved, but they've refused
• 52:22
  Speaker 13: to and unfortunately, it looks like labor is just kicking
• 52:24
  Speaker 13: the can down the road. I mean, they're releasing people
• 52:26
  Speaker 13: that haven't even served half of their sentences. That's how
• 52:29
  Speaker 13: tragic the situation is.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: You're kidding me. That's unbelievable. Jeeze, If you were a
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: victim of some of those criminals, you'd be so upset.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: It's the CREK. Always great to talk to you. Thank
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: you so much for your time. That's it for me.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Coming up now, Steve Price with Sherry. Good Night,