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Fictional Women Around the World: Nadja of Antipaxos · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I didn't come to stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I never told your production of iHeart Radio and welcome
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  Speaker 1: to another sub sub sub sub sub sub secument. I
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  Speaker 1: like to add as many subs as I can. Fictional
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  Speaker 1: Women around the World, And as promised, today, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to discuss Nadia from the f X show What We
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  Speaker 1: Do in the Shadows. I was gonna put a buffer
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  Speaker 1: in between doing this one and Officer Leary from Wellington Impairnormal,
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  Speaker 1: but I was like, how about the show just came out,
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  Speaker 1: We're moving into fall, we're moving into the Spooki seasons,
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  Speaker 1: so I wanted to go ahead and just do it,
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  Speaker 1: Just do it, just do it. Yeah, and you can
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  Speaker 1: see our last Fictional Women around the World episode on
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  Speaker 1: Officer Leary and also, yes, my previous guest episode on
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  Speaker 1: Movie Crush where I talked about the movie What We
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  Speaker 1: Do in the Shadows, and yeah, the third season did
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  Speaker 1: just come out. There's gonna be some brief, vague spoilers.
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  Speaker 1: I don't imagine we're going to go into anything in death.
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  Speaker 1: But if you're really like I don't want to be spoiled,
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  Speaker 1: then come back later, come back later, all right, So
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  Speaker 1: let's let's just start it off again. The twenty fourteen
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  Speaker 1: movie was created by Taco Watiti and Jermaine Clement. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm really having a hard time during the New Zealand
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  Speaker 1: Jama Jamain. It's bad. I'm so sorry to those who
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  Speaker 1: just heard that because of the show Flat of the Concord, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I can't get it out of my head. But they
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  Speaker 1: are both obviously involved with the show, which debuted in
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  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and just like the other show, Willington Paranormal,
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  Speaker 1: both delightful. It's a pretty similar format to the movie.
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  Speaker 1: It's a mockumentary about vampires and Nandor last Low, Nija
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  Speaker 1: and Colin and Nandor's familiar Guillermo, who was in Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: just recently, as they navigate werewolves, zombies, a city council meetings, citizenships, family,
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  Speaker 1: and the vampire Council. Yes, yes, I do have a
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  Speaker 1: funny I mean it's not funny, but like a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years ago, when I was at Dragon Con, I
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  Speaker 1: addressed you were there. I addressed as Hiccup from How
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  Speaker 1: to Train Your Dragon, which is a children's movie, and
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  Speaker 1: we were at a party and this guy dressed as
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  Speaker 1: Nandor from what we do in the shadows would not
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  Speaker 1: leave me alone. And it was just like the dichotomy
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  Speaker 1: of our costumes together and my friends being like, look, dude,
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  Speaker 1: she's dressed as a children's character. You just back off
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  Speaker 1: and he coughed and like left in a fury, and
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  Speaker 1: it was very in character. But okay, today we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about Najia um A Nadia of Anti Paxos played by
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  Speaker 1: Natasia Demetrio Um, who is an over five hundred year
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  Speaker 1: old vampire and kind of what we talked about was
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  Speaker 1: Officer Leary. We even mentioned this at then that episode.
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  Speaker 1: She is the most competent of the vampires. I guess
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  Speaker 1: you could argue her and Colin are kind of in
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  Speaker 1: their running, but of like the three non energy vampire vampires,
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  Speaker 1: she's definitely number one. It's even a running joke on
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  Speaker 1: the show that all these male vampires talk about is
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  Speaker 1: their Dickson farts and what is she doing with her
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  Speaker 1: life by staying with him? Several times she has to
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  Speaker 1: bail them out. One of the biggest example I can
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  Speaker 1: think of is when they all somehow get captured by
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  Speaker 1: animal control and she has to go and like immediately
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  Speaker 1: gets them out so easily She's fierce, violent, determined, and
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  Speaker 1: loyal in the way that vampires are um because they
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  Speaker 1: have different views on monogamy. I'll say she's quick to anger, vindictive, superstitious,
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  Speaker 1: proud and wants more power, and she's very open about
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  Speaker 1: her sexuality and desires. It's one thing I love about it.
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  Speaker 1: Nadia grew up poor and her mother was eaten by
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  Speaker 1: a bear when she was a child. When she was
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  Speaker 1: turned into a vampire, she was cast out from her
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  Speaker 1: family and her village. Many years later, she seduced the
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  Speaker 1: Englishman Laslow cravens Worth and turned him into a vampire.
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  Speaker 1: And they've been in a loving relationship ever since. And
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  Speaker 1: I do I love their relationship and how in their
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  Speaker 1: very vampire weird way, they're very committed to each other,
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  Speaker 1: even though yes, monogamy is different in this vampire world,
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  Speaker 1: but still they love each other. One of the interesting
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  Speaker 1: things about her character is the relationship she has with
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  Speaker 1: other women on the show. So for for example, in
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  Speaker 1: the first season, she turns Jenna, who is this human
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  Speaker 1: lark being assumed virgin. She turns Jenna into a vampire
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  Speaker 1: because she kind of feels like Jenna is not getting
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  Speaker 1: in respect. She deserves. She's being treated poorly by the
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  Speaker 1: other dudes, and Naudia guides her into finding her power.
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  Speaker 1: And a big part of that storyline too, is they
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  Speaker 1: go to a frat party, Nadia like yelling at men
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  Speaker 1: about not respecting her our Jenna, and it was very enjoying,
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  Speaker 1: even though you feel weird when you're like, oh, she
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  Speaker 1: just totally killed that guy. I haven't gotten to that
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  Speaker 1: part yet. I'm slowly watching it. It's been a minute.
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  Speaker 1: I tried to watch a while ago and I came
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  Speaker 1: back to it, but yeah, I did just recently watch
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  Speaker 1: the scene where she turns Jenna and the conversation like
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  Speaker 1: she sees herself being treated poorly by men in the
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  Speaker 1: past and so therefore and being the only woman in
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  Speaker 1: a group of men, she needs to help her gain
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  Speaker 1: her power find her way, which, by the way, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you know this that I had to
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  Speaker 1: explain this to my partner that is played by Beingie Feldstein,
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  Speaker 1: who is Jonah hills sister who was I think she
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  Speaker 1: wants something. Yeah, she wanted to award the book Smart
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  Speaker 1: and now she's about to be in a huge Broadway play.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, tiny character, giant actor. Yeah, she kind of
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  Speaker 1: suddenly disappears from the show and you're like, uh, huh,
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  Speaker 1: she got real faintous. There's also they play a lot
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  Speaker 1: on the women hating women trope, so a bit later on,
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  Speaker 1: I believe in the second season, we meet Lilith, who
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  Speaker 1: is a witch who kidnaps Laslow and Nandora for their sperm,
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  Speaker 1: and Lilith and Nandia were best friends until Lilis slept
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  Speaker 1: with Laslow, and that was a moment where I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, because Doddie is really she's generally very
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  Speaker 1: even big, but she is kind of like equal opportunity vindictive.
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  Speaker 1: But I think because we've seen that trope so many
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  Speaker 1: times of like, oh you slept with my my man
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  Speaker 1: and now we're fighting kind of thing, that I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about this. I don't know about this storyline.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know if they heard that critique or
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  Speaker 1: are maybe like they were just very aware of it
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  Speaker 1: when they did it. But in the most recent episode
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  Speaker 1: we meet Gail the where Wolf. Such a fun conversation
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  Speaker 1: Gale Gail that we're with who is with is a
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  Speaker 1: love interest of nandor on an awful love interest and
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  Speaker 1: It's a running joke throughout that episode that Nadia like Scale,
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  Speaker 1: and but she'll say something very minor like I'm afraid
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  Speaker 1: Gale is gonna break Nandor's heart. And last it will
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  Speaker 1: be like, oh you hate her, You've made your feelings
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  Speaker 1: perfectly clear. Um, Like they all joke that she hates Gale.
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  Speaker 1: She's the one that hates Gale, and she keeps us like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I like her. But she even says like it's because
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  Speaker 1: we're two women, right, like I had to make this
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  Speaker 1: catfight between us. And then there is something else I
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  Speaker 1: find interesting about her character is there's an episode where
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  Speaker 1: they communicate with their ghosts as vampires because technically they're
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  Speaker 1: human selves have died, so they summoned like their ghost
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  Speaker 1: and they do their unfinished business um with a ghost.
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  Speaker 1: Nadia's ghost is like, what are you do? You have
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  Speaker 1: so much potential? What are you doing with your time?
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  Speaker 1: Why are you hanging out with these Why are you
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  Speaker 1: hang out with these dummies wasting your your eternal life?
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  Speaker 1: But then they connect like there's the same and they
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  Speaker 1: connect on such a close level that Naughtia gets the
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  Speaker 1: ghost of her human self to possess. This really creepy
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  Speaker 1: looking doll. And now she is a character on the show,
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  Speaker 1: The Nadia Doll Um and they kind of get up
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  Speaker 1: to shenaniganst together and when the dudes of the house
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  Speaker 1: are being insufferable, they kind of they talk it out.
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  Speaker 1: But that's another example I find of Like, it's just
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  Speaker 1: interesting to me how many examples I can think of
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  Speaker 1: of people loving themselves. Essentially, it is it is. I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait till we talk about Loki. I've got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of thoughts about it. Yeah, but also her, it
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  Speaker 1: kind of feels like she just she really does want
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  Speaker 1: more female companionship in her life. And there's several episodes
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  Speaker 1: where she we get to see into her past and
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  Speaker 1: and find out that she did have close women friends
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  Speaker 1: and that she misses them, and um, her relationship with
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  Speaker 1: her mother, which is really fascinating. I won't say it's healthy,
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  Speaker 1: but she clearly cared about her mother. UM. So that
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  Speaker 1: they're there, we just don't get to see them that much.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like the doll is sort of a
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  Speaker 1: she's trying for to have this companionship and we'll see
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  Speaker 1: where that goes. Now we've got Kristin Shawl kind of
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  Speaker 1: involved in in there, so I don't know what's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen with their relationship. And then another thing like
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  Speaker 1: this is just something it's not only this show, but
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  Speaker 1: for sure I've had like kind of moments of anxiety
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  Speaker 1: around like she'll use these problematic sexist insults, and I
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  Speaker 1: get because it's you know, they're vampires and they say
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  Speaker 1: things very strangely in their accents are interesting, and it's
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  Speaker 1: just supposed to be there out of touch, and they
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  Speaker 1: are old and they haven't learned how to adapt to
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  Speaker 1: her modern world in a lot of ways. But it
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  Speaker 1: does come up a lot where they all say like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, are you soft like a girl? Or are
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  Speaker 1: you put your all those those kinds of things, and
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  Speaker 1: she'll say them, and so that's just something else that
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I get, I get where you're coming from.
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  Speaker 1: And she's definitely not like she's got a lot of issues.
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  Speaker 1: She's violent and cruel in a lot of ways, but
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  Speaker 1: also like tender and caring in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 1: That makes her an interesting character. But that has been
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  Speaker 1: something else that's kind of given me pause around around that.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That being said, I adore this show. The
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  Speaker 1: market handle episode thing of beauty and I really recommend it,
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  Speaker 1: and I read a lot of articles about how because
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  Speaker 1: this came out before Wellington's Paranormal and people were saying like,
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  Speaker 1: this is what what we do in the Shadows really
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  Speaker 1: needed was because the first one was pretty much as
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  Speaker 1: has made the joke in the movie a sausage fest.
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  Speaker 1: I was mostly just dudes. And how her character has
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  Speaker 1: been so funny and interesting, and I love how open
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  Speaker 1: she is about like her sexuality and her desires and wants,
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  Speaker 1: and how she's so power hungry and not ashamed of
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  Speaker 1: it at all. So she Yeah, she's really she's a
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  Speaker 1: good addition to it, and she's really interesting. Recommend delight.
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  Speaker 1: It's a delight. Yes, it is. So that brings us
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