Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / Who could benefit the most from Trump's investment accounts for children
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, Trump accounts are officially open. They're the first federal
- 0:04Speaker 1: tax advantaged investment accounts for kids. President Trump celebrated the
- 0:08Speaker 1: launch this morning in the Oval Office.
- 0:11Speaker 2: These children are going to have actually accounts. They're going
- 0:13Speaker 2: to learn about finance a little bit.
- 0:15Speaker 3: They can watch it.
- 0:17Speaker 2: We're going to all watch it grow together.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Some eighty seven companies, foundations, individuals, and states have announced
- 0:24Speaker 1: contributions to the accounts. The question is can they deliver
- 0:28Speaker 1: the benefits over the long haul that are being promoted.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Our economics correspondent Paul Solomon walked through the basics after
- 0:34Speaker 1: the new accounts became law. Here's an updated look at
- 0:37Speaker 1: what you need to know.
- 0:39Speaker 4: Trump accounts will be the first I guess you could
- 0:43Speaker 4: say real trust funds for every American child.
- 0:46Speaker 2: To which tech billionaire Michael Dell added, we believe the
- 0:50Speaker 2: smartest investment that we can make is investment in children.
- 0:53Speaker 2: So what exactly are these so called Trump accounts? Part
- 0:56Speaker 2: of last year's One Big Beautiful Bill Act. Their taxed
- 1:00Speaker 2: advantage savings accounts invested in a low cost stock index fund.
- 1:04Speaker 2: They're available for every American child up to age eighteen.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Families opt in through a tax form and can contribute
- 1:11Speaker 2: five thousand dollars annually for kids born between twenty twenty
- 1:14Speaker 2: five and twenty twenty eight. Uncle Sam salts away one
- 1:18Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Now more than six million children have been
- 1:21Speaker 2: signed up, but only about one point four million we're
- 1:24Speaker 2: young enough to qualify for the government money. Philanthropists, employers,
- 1:28Speaker 2: and states can also contribute to the accounts. Susan and
- 1:32Speaker 2: Michael Dell were the first of many contributors.
- 1:34Speaker 3: Moms and dads adding five ten bucks a week, you know,
- 1:38Speaker 3: kids saving the little money in the summertime. Philanthropists like
- 1:41Speaker 3: the Dells, States like the State of Texas, has said
- 1:44Speaker 3: they're going to add one thousand dollars to these accounts.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Silicon Valley entrepreneur Brad Gersner helped make the idea a reality.
- 1:52Speaker 3: The objective here is to get the seventy percent Americans
- 1:55Speaker 3: who feel left out and left behind by capitalism into
- 1:58Speaker 3: the game. To make everybody a capitalist from birth, sharing
- 2:01Speaker 3: in the great upside of the American economy.
- 2:04Speaker 5: US savings bonds now watch how.
- 2:07Speaker 2: They grow now. Putting money away for a kid was
- 2:10Speaker 2: pretty common back when folks like me and Teresa Gilarducci
- 2:13Speaker 2: were babes in the woods.
- 2:15Speaker 4: I use my own example of what happened when my
- 2:18Speaker 4: grandmother gave me a little baby bond.
- 2:20Speaker 2: She eventually became a prominent economist, a left wing one
- 2:25Speaker 2: who's long promoted something like government trust funds from birth.
- 2:28Speaker 2: She even wrote a proposal for.
- 2:30Speaker 4: Them, along with Kevin Hassett, who's on the other side
- 2:34Speaker 4: of me on the political spectrum.
- 2:36Speaker 2: Kevin Hasset, President Trump's top economic advisor. Given her politics,
- 2:42Speaker 2: how could she pair up with him?
- 2:43Speaker 4: We came together as an economist, and we know that
- 2:46Speaker 4: wealth gives people security and power.
- 2:49Speaker 2: She and Hassit, despite their different politics, have now been
- 2:52Speaker 2: meeting with Brad Gersner. That comes as no surprise to
- 2:55Speaker 2: early wealth building expert Ray Bishara.
- 2:58Speaker 6: I've been working on this idea twenty years, and it's
- 3:01Speaker 6: been bipartisan over those twenty years. It's important to remember
- 3:05Speaker 6: that the bottom half of the population owns only two
- 3:08Speaker 6: point five percent of the nation's twelfth and only one
- 3:11Speaker 6: percent of stocks and bonds. We have a long way
- 3:14Speaker 6: to go to build well for the bottom half of
- 3:16Speaker 6: the population. Trump accounts designed properly, can.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Do that design properly, But that's only the first problems
- 3:24Speaker 2: is policy expert Amy Matsui.
- 3:26Speaker 5: We already have extremely significant wealth gaps by income, by race,
- 3:32Speaker 5: by gender, and the way that this policy is structured,
- 3:36Speaker 5: it's not going to narrow them. It has the potential
- 3:38Speaker 5: to widen them.
- 3:39Speaker 4: How So, because the practical aspects of these accounts will
- 3:44Speaker 4: mean that the families that are very well off will
- 3:47Speaker 4: benefit much more than anybody in the bottom ninety percent,
- 3:51Speaker 4: Most families will not be able to contribute the five
- 3:54Speaker 4: thousand dollars for the tax advantage.
- 3:56Speaker 5: A family who's been able to steadily contribute the maximum
- 4:00Speaker 5: would have almost two hundred thousand dollars in assets, and
- 4:03Speaker 5: in contrast, a family that has the thousand dollars and
- 4:08Speaker 5: has the six percent rate of return may have something
- 4:13Speaker 5: more along the lines of two or three thousand dollars.
- 4:17Speaker 2: But Teresa Gilarducci remains hopeful.
- 4:20Speaker 4: The Trump accounts surely can be restructured.
- 4:24Speaker 2: But here's a real question will they be.
- 4:27Speaker 4: The technocrats around populist policies would absolutely endorse a tweak
- 4:34Speaker 4: of these accounts so they don't just serve the top
- 4:37Speaker 4: one percent or top ten percent.
- 4:40Speaker 2: Her tweak of choice eliminate tax advantage for families earning
- 4:45Speaker 2: over two hundred and fifty thousand dollars per year to
- 4:48Speaker 2: make the program more progressive. She expects Brad Gersner will
- 4:52Speaker 2: be sympathetic and to listen to him. He maybe I
- 4:57Speaker 2: started this well.
- 4:58Speaker 3: My oldest child was thirteen year old coming out of
- 5:00Speaker 3: COVID twenty twenty one, and I showed them the custodio
- 5:03Speaker 3: accounts that I had opened at birth and added to
- 5:07Speaker 3: over the years, and they had compounded into a fair
- 5:09Speaker 3: bit of money. And my oldest son, Lincoln said to me, Dad,
- 5:12Speaker 3: this is incredible, But what about all the other kids
- 5:14Speaker 3: who don't have these? And that really was the conversation
- 5:18Speaker 3: around our dinner table that led to the birth of
- 5:20Speaker 3: invest America.
- 5:21Speaker 2: And now here's another problem, a teenager and money. What
- 5:26Speaker 2: happens when he or she turns eighteen and suddenly there's
- 5:29Speaker 2: a windfall.
- 5:30Speaker 4: I used to be a Boy Scout counselor for the
- 5:34Speaker 4: personal finance Merit Batch, and I talked to many teenage boys,
- 5:39Speaker 4: you know, over the years about their finances. I bet
- 5:43Speaker 4: that ninety percent of the teenagers that you talked to
- 5:46Speaker 4: will say that they would buy a car or somehow
- 5:49Speaker 4: fix their car.
- 5:50Speaker 2: What did she do with the grandma bond.
- 5:53Speaker 4: The bond that my grandmother gave me was cashed in
- 5:57Speaker 4: to pay our back rent.
- 5:58Speaker 3: As a father of a seventeen year old and a
- 6:02Speaker 3: fourteen year old, you know, I think about that all
- 6:04Speaker 3: the time.
- 6:05Speaker 2: And so the new law tries to address the problem.
- 6:08Speaker 3: He says, at eighteen, kids can use up to twenty
- 6:11Speaker 3: five percent of this to buy a home, start a business,
- 6:13Speaker 3: go to college. If they don't use the money for
- 6:16Speaker 3: that purpose, it automatically rolls into an IRA and is
- 6:19Speaker 3: subject to the IRA rules. So yes, you can't take
- 6:22Speaker 3: it out, but it will be subject to a stiff
- 6:24Speaker 3: penalty if you take it out at that point in time.
- 6:27Speaker 2: But college, that isn't for most Americans, right, two.
- 6:31Speaker 4: Thirds of people don't go to college, and so if
- 6:34Speaker 4: they take the money out to buy a car, they
- 6:36Speaker 4: have to pay a penalty. So you're actually penalizing people
- 6:39Speaker 4: who don't go right from high school to college, and
- 6:42Speaker 4: so that has to be changed.
- 6:44Speaker 3: They can use this money to go to a trade school.
- 6:46Speaker 3: They can use this money to study a profession that
- 6:48Speaker 3: isn't a typical for year education community college, to start
- 6:52Speaker 3: a small business.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Okay, but what about this potential final snag.
- 6:57Speaker 5: Trust in government agencies is pretty low, and for families
- 7:01Speaker 5: who don't have a lot of financial literacy or a
- 7:04Speaker 5: portfolio of their own, they may be unwilling or reluctant
- 7:08Speaker 5: to take the steps to open accounts for their children,
- 7:12Speaker 5: even if they could receive that thousand dollars of seed
- 7:15Speaker 5: money from the government.
- 7:17Speaker 2: Rad Gersner says he's keenly aware of the problem.
- 7:20Speaker 3: Failure for me would be if we had a bunch
- 7:22Speaker 3: of accounts that were not claimed by the bottom third
- 7:25Speaker 3: of the economic ladder. We have to make sure that
- 7:27Speaker 3: we make it seamless for these people to know about
- 7:30Speaker 3: the accounts, to get excited about the accounts, and to
- 7:32Speaker 3: claim the accounts.
- 7:33Speaker 2: So what's the bottom line right now? Pittfolls galore. But
- 7:38Speaker 2: these accounts are, says longtime proponent Ray Bushara.
- 7:42Speaker 6: The down payment on a big idea that canon and
- 7:45Speaker 6: should be improved over time. And it's important to look
- 7:48Speaker 6: at history here. The Social security one of our most
- 7:52Speaker 6: successful social policies, started out largely excluding women and minorities.
- 7:57Speaker 6: But today it's one of the most inclusive success for
- 8:00Speaker 6: programs that we have these.
- 8:02Speaker 4: Trump accounts, since they are completely wide open for an
- 8:07Speaker 4: eighteen year old to spend, will will not achieve the
- 8:12Speaker 4: goals that right now President Trump and Michael and Susan
- 8:16Speaker 4: Dell say they want it to achieve. It needs reform,
- 8:18Speaker 4: but better than nothing, better than nothing, And.
- 8:22Speaker 2: If reforms do happen in myriad ways, and if money
- 8:26Speaker 2: pours in from myriad sources, potentially much better for the
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