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Speaker 1: Goodness gives the report.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Bold Report. I'm Dankiti
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Speaker 2: Giorgio coming up tonight. Anthony Albanesi handed a report into
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Speaker 2: anti semitism and already there's been no action from the
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Speaker 2: PM on its recommendations.
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Speaker 3: Plus I'll discuss the elephant in the room that wasn't
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Speaker 3: in the report.
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Speaker 2: Labour's non existent relationship with the Trump administration could see
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Speaker 2: us pay more for submarines under the Orca Steel. I'll
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Speaker 2: speak to Barnaby Joyce shortly. And childcare workers have been
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Speaker 2: given DEI trading before they learn about child health and safety.
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Speaker 2: But first tonight, the Albenzi government has today been told
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Speaker 2: that more needs to be done to tackle anti Semitism
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Speaker 2: because anti Semitism has not been tackled.
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Speaker 3: But Anthony Albanesi will tell.
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Speaker 4: You there is no place in Australia for anti Semitism.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister with the same line there for thee
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Speaker 2: hundredth time. So we have a report released today into
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Speaker 2: what should be done to stop this awful scourge of
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Speaker 2: anti Semitism in society. But there's still a conversation we
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Speaker 2: are not having and it has not been raised in
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Speaker 2: the report. And most of our politicians are too scared
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Speaker 2: to touch it, and it is, in my view.
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Speaker 3: A big part of the problem.
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Speaker 2: It centers around multiculturalism, in particular the impact of radical Islamism,
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Speaker 2: and until we do more to stop importing people into
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Speaker 2: this country who are extreme in their views and who
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Speaker 2: do not share our values, I fear nothing will change.
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Speaker 2: Report or no report. I'll explain why in a moment.
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Speaker 2: But the fact that Labour even needed a report to
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Speaker 2: make it wake up to anti Semitism is baffling. I
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Speaker 2: mean the fact it's taken the Prime Minister this long
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Speaker 2: to wake up to that is even worse. Labour has
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Speaker 2: allowed hate to flourish by sitting on its hands for
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Speaker 2: almost two years while Jewish Australians were made to feel
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Speaker 2: unsafe and our social cohesion fractured. I applaud the Special
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Speaker 2: Envoy to Combat Anti Semitism, Julian Siegel, who is a
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Speaker 2: tireless advocate for the community as it faces daily threats
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Speaker 2: and intimidation.
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Speaker 5: These are not isolated events and they form part of
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Speaker 5: a broader pattern of intimidation and violence that is making
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Speaker 5: very Jewish Australians feel very unsafe and this should concern
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Speaker 5: every Australian because the safety and dignity of one community
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Speaker 5: affects us all.
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Speaker 2: Now, the problem is we only have a set of recommendations,
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Speaker 2: but the Prime Minister could not even bring himself to
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Speaker 2: make one commitment today.
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Speaker 4: Will now carefully consider the report recommendation. So there's a
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Speaker 4: number of things in here that we are doing. As
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Speaker 4: a number of things can be implemented quickly, there are
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Speaker 4: a number of things that will require work over a
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Speaker 4: period of time.
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Speaker 3: Well, how long is it going to take?
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Speaker 2: I find it very hard to believe the PM was
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Speaker 2: not kept abreast of the key issues in this report
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Speaker 2: over the course of nine months. And seriously, what is
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Speaker 2: it going to take for someone to get killed like
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Speaker 2: the two Israeli embassy workers in the US. I mean,
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Speaker 2: we already have seen synagogue's firebombed. Here, four attacks in
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Speaker 2: Melbourne this week alone, anti Semitic graffiti, attacks, violence, intimidation.
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Speaker 3: The list goes on. Have some bloody courage, Prime Minister, And.
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Speaker 2: Later in the show, I will speak to Joel Bernie
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Speaker 2: from the Australia Israel and Jewish Affairs Council about the
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Speaker 2: key recommendations. But I want to give you my key
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Speaker 2: takeaway The report recommended Australian Border Force officials be trained
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Speaker 2: to spot and deport anti Semiti Semites. The report says
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Speaker 2: migration policies must guard against the importation of hate. Visa
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Speaker 2: applicants should be screened for anti Semitic views or affiliations.
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Speaker 2: Non citizens involved in anti Semitism should face visa cancelation
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Speaker 2: and removal from Australia. Well, the reality is Labor already
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Speaker 2: has the power under Section five oh one of the
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Speaker 2: Migration Act to deny or cancel a visa if a
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Speaker 2: person seeks to vilify a group in the community. Yet
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Speaker 2: Tony Burke has not deported one hate preacher, not one. Instead,
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Speaker 2: he's Bard, an israel American speaker and Israel's former Interior
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Speaker 2: and Justice Minister. The minister thought he would throw a
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Speaker 2: bone to the Jewish community last week by banning the
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Speaker 2: visa of rapper Carnie West for his new song Hayl Hitler,
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Speaker 2: even though he has no plans to tour Australia. And
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Speaker 2: the problem is with people already in this country, the
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Speaker 2: hate is already here.
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Speaker 3: Yet Labor even today conflated the issue.
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Speaker 6: There've been visas that we've denied to people because they've
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Speaker 6: expressed extreme and his emdic and indeed extreme Islamophobic views.
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Speaker 1: So we've used that power.
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Speaker 6: And we do it to ensure that we keep Australian
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Speaker 6: safe and.
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Speaker 3: Don't forget after October seven.
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Speaker 2: In the first instance, Labor conflated anti Semitism with Islamophobia,
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Speaker 2: as if both were an equal issue.
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Speaker 3: In the country.
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Speaker 2: I mean, what about the hate being spewed out of
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Speaker 2: some of the mosques. What has Labor done about that.
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Speaker 2: We should be giving the boot to people who are
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Speaker 2: not citizens and have committed crimes, abused our values and
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Speaker 2: our good will, but we are not. Instead, we granted
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Speaker 2: visas to three thousand Garzens with little to no security checks.
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Speaker 2: It's almost been two years since the October seven massacre
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Speaker 2: and since then our social cohesion has blown up, and
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Speaker 2: the elephant in the room remains the topic most politicians
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Speaker 2: in this country don't want to touch. Yet many of
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Speaker 2: us you and I are talking about, and that is multiculturalism.
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Speaker 2: Who we have imported into this country, who hold extremist views,
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Speaker 2: whose values and culture are so far removed from our own.
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Speaker 2: Radical Islamism is incompatible with Western democracies. Yet the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister told us today that multiculturalism is our strength and.
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Speaker 3: That it will be the litmus test for the report's success.
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Speaker 4: It will be successful when Australia is a sort of
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Speaker 4: country that I want to see each and every day,
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Speaker 4: where students can go to school without any fear, where
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Speaker 4: cultural diversity and expression.
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Speaker 1: Is flourishing.
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Speaker 2: Sorry, Prime Minister, You're never going to see cultural diversity
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Speaker 2: and expression flourish the way we're going. There are people
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Speaker 2: who have been welcomed here with open arms, some who
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Speaker 2: hate us, some who hate our values, and some who
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Speaker 2: have no interest in assimilating. And this sentiment was echoed
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Speaker 2: by Liberal MP Garth Hamilton on the show last night.
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Speaker 7: It's a real challenge here.
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Speaker 8: We now have a multicultural society and there are some
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Speaker 8: cultures that hate others. That's a fact. I've lived in
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Speaker 8: the Middle East. I've seen it with my own eyes.
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Speaker 8: I've experienced it. This is what's been brought into Australia
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Speaker 8: and I don't think we have a strong control over
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Speaker 8: the culture that we're trying to create here in Australia anymore.
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Speaker 2: All you need to do is look at how countries
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Speaker 2: around the world are taking swift action. Italy's Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: Georgia Maloney deported Pakistani Imam Zulfika Khan from Italy in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four for promoting Islamic terrorism. His rhetoric included
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Speaker 2: strong anti Western and anti Semitic sentiments. Last year, France
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Speaker 2: expelled it to Nissian imam for radicalism, and recently a
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Speaker 2: French court upheld a decision to deport a Moroccan imam
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Speaker 2: due to several years of systemic, unqualified and anti Semitic discourse.
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Speaker 2: All it takes is a hard line stance. Where was
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Speaker 2: the hard line stance when where are the Jews? Or
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Speaker 2: whatever was shouted at the steps of the Sydney Opera house,
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Speaker 2: or when a hate preacher told us he was elated
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Speaker 2: at the October seven massacre, or when the flags of
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Speaker 2: Hesbela and other terror groups were so brazenly flown in
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Speaker 2: our streets. The common denominator is radical Islamism. And until
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Speaker 2: we wake up to the fact and have this conversation,
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Speaker 2: I fear that nothing will change. You only need to
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Speaker 2: look to the UK to see a once democratic nation
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Speaker 2: be torn down by hate via an out of control
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Speaker 2: migration policy.
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Speaker 3: So sure, I agree.
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Speaker 2: This report is a great step in the right direction
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Speaker 2: for the Jewish community if it is adopted, But there
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Speaker 2: is a bigger issue at play and.
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Speaker 3: It impacts all of us. Now let's take a closer
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Speaker 3: look now at this report.
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Speaker 2: Among the recommendations of visa applicant screening, anti Semitism in curriculum,
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Speaker 2: combating social media, envoid media monitoring, she'll be monitoring the
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Speaker 2: media and arts bodies and universities will have government funding
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Speaker 2: withdrawn under stricter guidelines if they fail to address anti semitism.
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Speaker 3: Jovy.
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Speaker 2: Now for analysis on this is Joel Bernie from the
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Speaker 2: Australian Israel and Jewish Affairs Council. Joel, really appreciate your
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Speaker 2: time this evening. Firstly, your response to what you've heard today?
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Speaker 3: Are you pleased with these recommendations?
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Speaker 7: Well, I've got the report here, Danika, and as you've
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Speaker 7: just said in your package, there.
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Speaker 9: Are many, many, many recommendations in it, and I commends
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Speaker 9: a special Envoy Jillian Siegel for how far it is.
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Speaker 7: On the one hand, very importantly when you read through
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Speaker 7: it, it has some.
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Speaker 9: Very practical recommendations to immediately tackle the scourge of anti
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Speaker 9: Semitism in this country from different sectors, from the university
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Speaker 9: sector where we've seen university students be under constant assault
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Speaker 9: the past twenty one months, tackling Grant's government and grants
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Speaker 9: to arts institutions that do not protect their Jewish patrons
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Speaker 9: or their Jewish creative members, as you've said, through visa
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Speaker 9: training and screening of potential anti Semitic people that want
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Speaker 9: to come here on visas to this beautiful country to
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Speaker 9: again rip the fabric of social cohesion that has been
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Speaker 9: occurring on the streets of this beautiful country of ours
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Speaker 9: for the past twenty one months.
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Speaker 7: So yes, we applaud the report.
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Speaker 10: So that's that.
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Speaker 9: On the one hand, the sad thing about it is
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Speaker 9: that I read through all of the elements and all
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Speaker 9: the different sectors of our society, not small sectors tonea,
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Speaker 9: the education sector, social media, everything that we consume, every
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Speaker 9: sector of our lives has been infected by this systemic
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Speaker 9: anti Semitism that is completely assaulted the Jewish community after
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Speaker 9: the largest loss of Jewish life since the Holocaust. It's
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Speaker 9: ripped the fabric of social cohesion on the streets of Australia.
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Speaker 9: As I've said to you and many of your colleagues
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Speaker 9: for the past twenty one months, I think Australia have
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Speaker 9: had a gutfull of it all and so ultimately and
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Speaker 9: the most important part is how quickly and how much
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Speaker 9: of this report the government is willing to adopt.
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Speaker 2: Well, this is the question now, isn't it, Because I mean,
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Speaker 2: how confident are you and Labor adopting these recommendations. I
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Speaker 2: truly believe that actions speak louder than words. Here, it
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Speaker 2: was all very well and good for the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: to get out there today and talk tough, but Labor
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Speaker 2: has sat on its hands now for almost two years
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Speaker 2: on anti Semitism. The Prime Minister says he will consider
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Speaker 2: the recommendations. Surely Labor has been kept abreast of this
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Speaker 2: report over the past nine months of its investigation.
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Speaker 9: Well, there are the executive counts of Australian Jury Alex
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Speaker 9: Ripchin and Shari Marx, And in the sky New summit that
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Speaker 9: you and I were both at earlier on this year
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Speaker 9: outlined a fifteen point plan and a number of those
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Speaker 9: recommendations have been put into this report or something similar.
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Speaker 9: So there's no doubt that the things that have been
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Speaker 9: discussed in this report had been on the table for
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Speaker 9: quite a few months. I would like to suggest that
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Speaker 9: the government would be running out of excuses or reasons
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Speaker 9: as not to adopt or not to tackle anti Semitism
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Speaker 9: head on. First and foremost, because you know, the streets
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Speaker 9: are on fire and synagogues are being attacked and Jews
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Speaker 9: are being relentlessly attacked on a regular basis, but also because,
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Speaker 9: as you've pointed out times up for talk, the problem
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Speaker 9: now is so big that it requires legitimate offense from
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Speaker 9: the government to tackle all the things that it needs
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Speaker 9: to do. It now has the framework to do it.
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Speaker 9: It has a coherent report by the Special Envoy which
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Speaker 9: makes complete sense to how these things can be implemented quickly.
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Speaker 9: And my hope is in the hope of all Jewish
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Speaker 9: Australians that the government gets to work to implement as
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Speaker 9: many of these recommendations as soon as possible.
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Speaker 2: I want to go through one of the key recommendations
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Speaker 2: that Australian Border Force officials be trained to spot and
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Speaker 2: to port anti Semites. But as I mentioned, Joel Labor
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Speaker 2: already has the power under Section five Ozho one of
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Speaker 2: the Migration Act to deny or cancel a visa if
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Speaker 2: a person seeks to vilify a group in the community.
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Speaker 3: We have not seen a hate preacher deported so far.
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Speaker 2: I think this is a great recommendation, but the reality
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Speaker 2: is Labor already has the power Jole, so.
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Speaker 7: I think that that's right.
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Speaker 9: I think there are multiple powers that a government has
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Speaker 9: it its disposal, not just federal governments but state governments
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Speaker 9: as well, but it comes down to the political Sometimes
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Speaker 9: it comes down to the political motivation to utilize them.
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Speaker 9: I will note today that I do believe that Border
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Speaker 9: Force did utilize one of their powers for the arrest
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Speaker 9: of a visa holder in Western Sydney earlier on today.
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Speaker 7: But as you alluded to, you know, with hate preachers with.
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Speaker 9: Their on the record comments against Jews, and they're obviously
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Speaker 9: bile hatred towards Jewish Australians, and you do not hear
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Speaker 9: of these power is being executed often. So I think
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Speaker 9: that it comes down to the will of the government
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Speaker 9: of the day to use the tools and its toolkit
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Speaker 9: that it has. If it wants to do more and
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Speaker 9: it doesn't have the tools to do it, then it
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Speaker 9: should pursue the legislative powers that it has or increase
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Speaker 9: those legislative powers, and that's included in the report as
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Speaker 9: well as legislative reform. If the laws aren't there that
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Speaker 9: you need, introduce new laws, debate new laws in parliament,
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Speaker 9: hopefully past new laws, and then we can hopefully live
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Speaker 9: a brighter day.
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Speaker 2: Well look, that's certainly the hope, and we hope and
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Speaker 2: pray Joel, that we do live to have a brighter
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Speaker 2: day in this country right now, because since October seven,
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Speaker 2: it's been an absolute disgrace. Really, Joel Bernie, good to
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Speaker 2: catch up with you. Thank you so much for your analysis,
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Speaker 2: as always appreciate it. We'll joining me now to discuss
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Speaker 2: this and the rest of the day's news is National.
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Speaker 2: MP Barnaby, Joyce Barnaby, nice to see.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining me. Before we get to.
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Speaker 2: The other news of the day, I just want to
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Speaker 2: get your reaction to today's antisemitism report.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's see.
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Speaker 11: I mean, things will be judged by where it ends up.
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Speaker 11: If we're able to stem the tide of anti semitism,
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Speaker 11: then it works well. But if it doesn't then it
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Speaker 11: becomes sort of a ticker box.
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Speaker 12: You know.
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Speaker 11: I'm sort of on a I don't really see the
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Speaker 11: Prime Minister as an anti semit or encouraging anti semitism.
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Speaker 11: I think this is something that is it requires a
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Speaker 11: whole nation to sort of be very very aware that
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Speaker 11: this is an insidious process that's been replicated in such
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Speaker 11: things as the pograms, obviously in the Holocaust, and we
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Speaker 11: saw in what happened in Israel. So I think it's
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Speaker 11: really something that's got to go right through the community,
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Speaker 11: and I don't think any individual is either responsible for
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Speaker 11: it or can stop it.
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Speaker 2: No, Well, we'll see what happens if any of these
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Speaker 2: recommendations are indeed adopted.
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Speaker 3: Barnaby. I want to talk to you about reports.
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Speaker 2: Today that the Trump administration may demand new conditions for
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Speaker 2: providing nuclear submarines to Australia, including even more money that
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Speaker 2: includes a guarantee that US made nuclear subs would be
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Speaker 2: used by them in any future conflict with China. I mean,
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Speaker 2: does this further signal that the Orca steal is under threat?
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Speaker 3: Barnaby?
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Speaker 2: And I mean, is it more proof that Labour's really
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Speaker 2: botched the relationship with the US?
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Speaker 1: Now, this is one I can actually pen on the
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Speaker 1: Labor Party. Yes, they have. They've absolutely botched this relationship
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Speaker 1: and they continue to.
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Speaker 11: I do not know for the life of me why
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Speaker 11: Ambassador at is still the ambassador of the United States,
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Speaker 11: making the ambassador of the UK, making the ambassador to China,
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Speaker 11: making them the ambassador to wherever you like, but not
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Speaker 11: the United States. He unfortunately had said some things that
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Speaker 11: remain on the public record, and he should have been
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Speaker 11: a lot more cautious about his public commentary if he
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Speaker 11: envisaged a position that he has, such as the ambassador
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Speaker 11: the United States.
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Speaker 1: Can't just go and bag the what is the product.
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Speaker 11: With the President of the United States, and then you
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Speaker 11: think you're going to get away with it when they've
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Speaker 11: got hundreds of bureau So you go through everything that
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Speaker 11: you say, and he said the wrong things, and he
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Speaker 11: said them quite often.
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Speaker 1: Now, August, we're in trouble.
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Speaker 11: We're in real trouble here because if this thing falls over,
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Speaker 11: what is that?
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Speaker 1: What's planned? B what's the contingency plan plan?
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Speaker 13: I've never heard any Labor Party member tell me of
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Speaker 13: the contingency plan, And you better have one. And if
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Speaker 13: you're talking about the defense of your nation, you don't
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Speaker 13: just have one plan of that falls over the nation fails.
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Speaker 1: You have a contingency plan worked out about what you're
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Speaker 1: going to do next.
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Speaker 11: Because we've got an awful lot to do We've got
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Speaker 11: at times we can't deploy one of our submarines. We've
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Speaker 11: got frigates that look like that from the last century.
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Speaker 11: We've got warships which are really glorified frigates. We can't
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Speaker 11: find crews for these ships. We have the defense force
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Speaker 11: that space. The numbers have been going right down. Try
17:47
Speaker 11: and find a high school now that's going to candet
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Speaker 11: you in it. Reserve units used to be in regional towns,
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Speaker 11: a lot of them.
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Speaker 1: Have gone this. We are just not prepared for the
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Speaker 1: world that is before us. And it is and it is.
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Speaker 11: It is really a sign of bad government and it's
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Speaker 11: a bad outcome for Australia.
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Speaker 1: And at the bottom of this all, we're still.
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Speaker 11: Banging on about this net zero rubbish while we've deindustrialized
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Speaker 11: our nation. Congratulations, How on earth are you going to
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Speaker 11: defend your nation and you've de industrialize it.
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Speaker 1: Because he'd been in a war against.
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Speaker 2: The weather, Yeah, I mean that's a fair it's a
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Speaker 2: really really good point. Now, look I've got to ask
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Speaker 2: you about that. I think you're going to laugh at
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Speaker 2: this one. Barnaby, the CEO of a major climate change charity,
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Speaker 2: has praised China the world's biggest and worst carbon emitter.
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Speaker 2: In a very bizarre speech to the National Press Club.
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Speaker 2: Here is what the CEO of the Smart Energy Council,
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Speaker 2: John Grime said. One thing you can say about the
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Speaker 2: Chinese system is that China plays as a team.
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Speaker 3: A team, A team.
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Speaker 2: Barnaby, you've got to laugh a climate change well, you've
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Speaker 2: got a climate change charity boss actually praising the CCP's
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Speaker 2: approach to energy and saying that they plays the team.
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Speaker 11: Did he praise the fact that, I mean, I've got
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Speaker 11: no problems, but they're opening up cal five power stations
19:06
Speaker 11: like like they're making pancakes. Is they're going flat out
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Speaker 11: and they did he praise the fact that a lot
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Speaker 11: of their solar panels are manufactured or assembled by slave labor.
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Speaker 1: Did he say, gee, China has got it right there.
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Speaker 11: Get those Whiger people out, don't pay them, just lock
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Speaker 11: them up in the shed and say you'll start assembling
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Speaker 11: these panels and we'll sell them off with the Australians.
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Speaker 11: And you say, every time you can turn on that
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Speaker 11: light and go slave labor. You know this, this thing's
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Speaker 11: not even moral, it's immoral and people associated with this
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Speaker 11: are bad because you are actually condoning the actions and
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Speaker 11: suching as slave labor. You're condoning secret agreements, capass the
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Speaker 11: investment steent. You're condoning that, the forced access onto farmland.
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Speaker 11: You're condoning the environmental destruction that's caused by both wind
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Speaker 11: howls and solar panels, and how on earth we deal
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Speaker 11: with them in the future. You're condoning the fact the
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Speaker 11: pensioners are no longer able to ford their power bill
20:05
Speaker 11: and some of them are eating up living in their
20:07
Speaker 11: care You're condoning all this rubbish.
20:10
Speaker 1: So you're not good. You're not This is not a
20:12
Speaker 1: moral of virtuosy. It's a bad thing. It's a bad
20:16
Speaker 1: industry and you shouldn't be involved with it.
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Speaker 3: No exactly. And these are the things you don't hear about.
20:21
Speaker 2: You don't hear about what China is doing behind the scenes.
20:24
Speaker 3: You just hear about know everything else.
20:26
Speaker 2: I just thought those comments were extraordinary at Barnaby. Now
20:30
Speaker 2: before we let you go, there are calls for the
20:31
Speaker 2: Prime Minister to tweak the Pharmaceutical Benefit Scheme after Donald
20:35
Speaker 2: Trump threatened tariffs on pharmaceuticals, one of Australia's largest exports
20:39
Speaker 2: to the United States.
20:41
Speaker 3: Barnaby.
20:41
Speaker 2: America's pharmaceutical lobby had been pushing Trump to slap us
20:45
Speaker 2: with these tariffs in retaliation for the PBS.
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Speaker 3: Do you think there should be tweaks?
20:51
Speaker 1: Well, it's a pharmaceutical industry, is it.
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Speaker 11: We haven't got many exports left because we've decimated our
20:58
Speaker 11: economy through gutting it out through our power prices, but
21:01
Speaker 11: we do export pharmaceuticals. Unfortunately, this is another role where
21:06
Speaker 11: the ambassador should have been basically right in the center
21:10
Speaker 11: of things negotiating this process, getting the key players to
21:14
Speaker 11: the table.
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Speaker 1: We haven't had that. Look at this is an invidious position.
21:20
Speaker 11: I think the pharmaceutic call benefit scheme is a very
21:22
Speaker 11: good scheme, but if you want to keep the export
21:26
Speaker 11: of over two billion dollars worth of pharmaceuticals into the
21:30
Speaker 11: United States, then you've got to ask some serious questions
21:33
Speaker 11: about what it's exactly the United States is asking for
21:36
Speaker 11: and can we participate in that process. We're on the
21:42
Speaker 11: horns of a dilemma with the United States at the moment,
21:44
Speaker 11: and we needed the best team on the paddock, and
21:47
Speaker 11: we haven't even got a team on the paddock. We
21:49
Speaker 11: may as well not have an ambassador because we don't
21:51
Speaker 11: get access at the highest levels to the President of
21:53
Speaker 11: the United States.
21:54
Speaker 2: Oh, we've got the Z team, The Z team on
21:57
Speaker 2: the paddock at the moment, certainly not the tea barbaby, Joyce,
22:01
Speaker 2: and good to catch up with you. Thanks very much
22:03
Speaker 2: for joining me on the show this evening.
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Speaker 3: Appreciate it. We're coming up after the break.
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Speaker 2: CFMA you organizes in Queensland have been stood down after
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Speaker 2: an inquiry described its culture as a violent, cruel, misogynistic
22:14
Speaker 2: regime that targeted children. Plus, nothing says national security like
22:18
Speaker 2: a cookbook, apparently, find out how taxpayers funded a Taste
22:22
Speaker 2: of Harmony cookbook produced by members of Defense.
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Speaker 3: My panel will join me next, Welcome back.
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Speaker 2: While a damning inquiry into the handling of CFMAU state
22:33
Speaker 2: branches has resulted in more than five organizers in Queensland
22:37
Speaker 2: being removed. The inquiry accused the union's former state leadership
22:40
Speaker 2: of running a violent, cruel, misogynistic regime that targeted children
22:45
Speaker 2: and betrayed the call values of unionism. The investigation also
22:48
Speaker 2: found the union deliberately inflicted physical, sexual, emotional and economic
22:53
Speaker 2: abuse on others.
22:54
Speaker 3: Joining me now is the panel.
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Speaker 2: Skyinew's host James McPherson and Sky News contributor Evelyn Ray
22:59
Speaker 2: how both thank you very much for joining me on
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Speaker 2: the show this evening. You know, James, this is a
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Speaker 2: union that strikes all the time, prevents others from working
23:07
Speaker 2: holds up projects, and now its culture has been exposed.
23:10
Speaker 2: What does it say about this group?
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Speaker 14: Well, I think it's interesting to ask what it says
23:14
Speaker 14: about the Labor Party. Stephen Miles was interviewed about this
23:18
Speaker 14: report today, and this is a report that talks about
23:20
Speaker 14: how union officials since twenty fifteen were telling government ministers,
23:25
Speaker 14: you work for us, We determine policy, you implement it.
23:29
Speaker 14: This is a union that was so threatening towards government ministers.
23:32
Speaker 14: One government minister was advised by police to get extra security.
23:36
Speaker 14: This was a union so used to bullying that a
23:40
Speaker 14: public servant had to get psychological help to overcome the
23:44
Speaker 14: agony and the fear that she had been placed in.
23:47
Speaker 14: And Stephn Miles said today, first he's heard about it,
23:50
Speaker 14: He never knew anything about it. He said, there's no
23:53
Speaker 14: place for this in the union movement. Well, what was
23:55
Speaker 14: he doing the last ten years that he was in parliament?
23:57
Speaker 14: It beggars belief that senior officials did not know this
24:01
Speaker 14: was going on and for them to act surprise. Now,
24:04
Speaker 14: I tell you it doesn't say anything good about the
24:06
Speaker 14: labor movement, but it doesn't say anything good about the
24:08
Speaker 14: Labor Party, that's for sure.
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Speaker 3: No, I agree.
24:10
Speaker 2: In fact, Evelyn, the report found that CFMU officials believe
24:14
Speaker 2: that they should write the laws control public servants and
24:18
Speaker 2: even abused Queensland labor ministers, as James alluded to. But
24:22
Speaker 2: I mean, shouldn't labor be thinking twice about cozying up
24:25
Speaker 2: to the unions?
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Speaker 12: Honestly, this is just out of control at this point.
24:31
Speaker 12: You know, it's grown so big and so reckless it
24:34
Speaker 12: seems almost impossible to rein it. In The report that
24:37
Speaker 12: I read today was absolutely damning.
24:40
Speaker 3: You know.
24:40
Speaker 12: It certainly highlights a very thuggish way that some people
24:43
Speaker 12: were operating within that particular union. And to be honest,
24:47
Speaker 12: I spent a lot of years in law enforcement, and
24:50
Speaker 12: what I was reading about some of the allegations, it
24:52
Speaker 12: was like I was reading between two different rival biking gangs.
24:56
Speaker 12: And I actually worked with gangs, and I tell you what,
25:00
Speaker 12: some of them didn't even say some things as horrible
25:02
Speaker 12: as what was being said in Like I said, this
25:05
Speaker 12: report but I think what's important to remember is what
25:08
Speaker 12: these bodies were originally created for, which was workers rights,
25:13
Speaker 12: wages and safety conditions. I think what we have to
25:16
Speaker 12: ask is how did they get here? You know, why
25:19
Speaker 12: have they strayed so far from their original purpose?
25:23
Speaker 3: I think these are the questions.
25:24
Speaker 12: That we should be asking, and I honestly don't see
25:27
Speaker 12: how it could be redeemed without these questions being answered,
25:31
Speaker 12: and without a massive overhaul from the top all the
25:34
Speaker 12: way down to the bottom.
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Speaker 3: I agree.
25:36
Speaker 2: I think the only solution now is a massive overhaul
25:39
Speaker 2: and yeah, labour thinking twice about the unions.
25:42
Speaker 3: Now, this is a shock.
25:43
Speaker 2: Childcare workers have been given lessons on diversity and gender
25:48
Speaker 2: identity before they learn about child health and safety. The
25:51
Speaker 2: federal government's National Training Register reveals that supporting inclusion and
25:55
Speaker 2: diversity tops the list of fifteen compulsory units of stuff
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Speaker 2: for childcare staff. James, we've just had allegations of child
26:03
Speaker 2: abuse in the sector, but apparently DEI training is the priority.
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Speaker 14: This is a masterclass in misplaced priorities. Normally, you would
26:11
Speaker 14: think childcare workers are going to be trained in things like,
26:14
Speaker 14: I don't know, nappies and nutrition, but instead they're prioritizing
26:18
Speaker 14: gender identity. This report found there were eighteen thousand serious
26:22
Speaker 14: incidents in childcare centers last year. The good news is
26:25
Speaker 14: none of those incidents involved a toddler being misgendered. So
26:28
Speaker 14: I guess that's the good news to training is working.
26:32
Speaker 14: But it would be funny if it wasn't so scandalous.
26:36
Speaker 14: This just proves that those writing the training, they don't
26:38
Speaker 14: know what a child is, but they're determined to make
26:41
Speaker 14: sure that whatever these children are, they're not bigots, and
26:43
Speaker 14: that's the priority. It's quite outrageous, especially in light of
26:46
Speaker 14: what we've seen emerge allegedly from childcare centers in Victoria.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I think, you know, parents should be outraged
26:53
Speaker 2: by this, Sir Evelyn. What does it say about how
26:56
Speaker 2: captured our institutions are?
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Speaker 12: Number one priority in childcare should go without saying. I mean,
27:04
Speaker 12: do we really have to sit here and articulate it
27:06
Speaker 12: and spell it out. You know, there's not a single
27:09
Speaker 12: issue that is more important than the safety of children
27:12
Speaker 12: in care.
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Speaker 3: It's certainly not, you know, gender and diversity.
27:16
Speaker 12: In fact, there's nothing more irrelevant when caring for young
27:20
Speaker 12: infants than left wing gender theory. We've seen like James mentioned,
27:26
Speaker 12: you know what can happen sadly when safety is not
27:30
Speaker 12: put at the number one priority. And because of that,
27:33
Speaker 12: we have to strive, We have to do everything in
27:36
Speaker 12: our power to take all measures to make sure that
27:40
Speaker 12: the most vulnerable in our society, so vulnerable that some
27:44
Speaker 12: haven't even developed the ability to speak, let alone defend themselves,
27:48
Speaker 12: are never in situations where their vulnerabilities can be taken
27:52
Speaker 12: advantage of.
27:52
Speaker 3: And I would hazard a guess that.
27:54
Speaker 12: The number one priority to make sure these measures are
27:57
Speaker 12: being met is to get rid of this leftist, woke
28:02
Speaker 12: ideology straight from our educational systems, straight from our childcare systems,
28:07
Speaker 12: once and for all.
28:08
Speaker 15: And I think only then.
28:10
Speaker 12: Once we actually start living in reality and on a delusion,
28:14
Speaker 12: will actually see positive changes for our poor dear little children.
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Speaker 2: Yeah no, I completely agree with you, but given the
28:21
Speaker 2: events of the last few weeks, this finding is really shocking.
28:25
Speaker 3: Now.
28:25
Speaker 2: Look, nothing says national security like a cookbook. Apparently, the
28:29
Speaker 2: Defense Department's Guided Weapons and Explosive Ordinance Group has produced
28:33
Speaker 2: a Taste of Harmony cookbook using taxpayer funds. Air Marshall
28:38
Speaker 2: Leon Phillips, who heads the group, believes the incredible power
28:41
Speaker 2: of food will help his team get the job done.
28:44
Speaker 2: And James, what about helping his team prepare for war?
28:48
Speaker 14: I don't know, Well, he is Denika, he's hoping to
28:50
Speaker 14: defeat the enemy with beef Wellington.
28:52
Speaker 3: Obviously that was a good one.
28:55
Speaker 14: That maybe they're going to throw dumplings at the maybe
28:58
Speaker 14: they're hoping the enemy or a I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Dairy intolerant, all stuff going free.
29:03
Speaker 14: For all those people who say, you know, our military
29:05
Speaker 14: is hopelessly unprepared, that's not true anymore.
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Speaker 3: They're just totally cooked.
29:09
Speaker 2: Well, you've been preparing those lines for the last time
29:11
Speaker 2: you like that?
29:12
Speaker 3: Tell it was? That was actually really good. I don't
29:14
Speaker 3: know how are you gonna beat that one now?
29:15
Speaker 2: Evlyon, I've got to say, but look, I've got to say,
29:18
Speaker 2: we have a recruitment crisis. We haven't got enough munitions
29:21
Speaker 2: to last a week if we're attacked.
29:23
Speaker 3: But now we're producing cookbooks. China must be absolutely laughing
29:26
Speaker 3: at us.
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Speaker 7: For sure.
29:28
Speaker 15: I'm not even going to try and beat James with that.
29:30
Speaker 3: He did brilliant. Well done, James, but look hear me
29:33
Speaker 3: out on this though, guys. Here's an alternative take.
29:35
Speaker 12: Perhaps maybe the cookbook is a good sign. Maybe it's
29:39
Speaker 12: a good sign because in all reality, if war truly
29:43
Speaker 12: was on the horizon, if we were in imminent threat
29:47
Speaker 12: here in our country, you know what we would be
29:50
Speaker 12: seeing on TV. It wouldn't be cookbooks, It wouldn't be
29:53
Speaker 12: diversity inclusiveness.
29:55
Speaker 3: You know what it would be.
29:56
Speaker 12: It would be straight white men, you know, going off
30:01
Speaker 12: to battle, saying goodbye to their families, waving the Australian flag.
30:05
Speaker 3: That's when you know we really have.
30:07
Speaker 12: To worry when we start seeing that as a legitimate
30:10
Speaker 12: form of recruitment.
30:12
Speaker 3: For our military.
30:13
Speaker 12: But look, to be honest, in Australia, we're looking right
30:17
Speaker 12: now at the other ends of the world and there
30:20
Speaker 12: are wars breaking out, it feels like, from every corner.
30:22
Speaker 12: And what the military should do for its citizens is
30:26
Speaker 12: give them a sense of comfort, give them a sense
30:28
Speaker 12: of security. And here we are looking at this going,
30:32
Speaker 12: like you said, Deniger, they can we even survive this?
30:36
Speaker 3: What are we even going to make it till next week?
30:38
Speaker 12: And it's a very scary thing for Australians terms.
30:41
Speaker 3: It's a very scary thought.
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Speaker 2: Evelyn Ray, James McPherson, we've got to leave it there.
30:46
Speaker 2: Good to see you both, Thank you so much for
30:47
Speaker 2: joining me. Well, CNN has obtained audio of President Donald
30:51
Speaker 2: Trump telling campaign donors that he would bomb Moscow and Beijing.
30:55
Speaker 3: Have a listen good.
30:59
Speaker 10: If you go where to Ukraine?
31:03
Speaker 15: I'm telling you having president ship. But I said the
31:07
Speaker 15: same thing to them. I said, you know, if you're
31:08
Speaker 15: going to what over the publish obesion? And he really
31:12
Speaker 15: except ten and ten percent five percent.
31:17
Speaker 2: The audio was reportedly recorded during his first term as president. Now,
31:20
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has taken a more critical tone with Vladimir
31:23
Speaker 2: Putin since he has returned to the White House, despite
31:26
Speaker 2: previously blaming Ukraine for starting the conflict, which of course
31:29
Speaker 2: was not the case. The shift to a tone of
31:32
Speaker 2: frustration towards the Russian president has even resulted in the
31:35
Speaker 2: White House sending more weapons to Ukraine after having put
31:38
Speaker 2: it on hold. Joining me now is retired four star
31:42
Speaker 2: General Jack Keane. General Jack Keane, thank you for joining me.
31:46
Speaker 2: What's the strategy here? I mean, the US is now
31:49
Speaker 2: resuming armed supplies to Ukraine and Donald Trump is suddenly
31:53
Speaker 2: hitting back at Vladimir Putin?
31:55
Speaker 3: Why the change in sentiment? Do you think?
31:57
Speaker 16: Yeah? Well, Donald Trump lays very strongly in personal diplomacy,
32:02
Speaker 16: probably much so or so than any president or prime
32:08
Speaker 16: minister in a position similar to his.
32:12
Speaker 10: And by that I.
32:13
Speaker 16: Mean he he attempts to maintain a very positive relationship
32:17
Speaker 16: with an adversary and doesn't do anything to denigrate that
32:21
Speaker 16: agress adversary, you know publicly. I mean President Trump knows
32:27
Speaker 16: that Putin is a thug, he's a killer. He's committing
32:31
Speaker 16: genocide just about every single day by targeting civilians, and
32:36
Speaker 16: so he's very much aware of who he's dealing with,
32:38
Speaker 16: but he wants to maintain a relationship because he believes
32:43
Speaker 16: that that could lead to a positive deal in the future.
32:47
Speaker 16: The other thing is he's been exerting significant patience in
32:52
Speaker 16: dealing with Putin as he strung out all of these
32:55
Speaker 16: negotiations with virtually.
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Speaker 10: No progress whatsoever.
33:00
Speaker 16: The immediate thing on the table, and it's been there
33:03
Speaker 16: for months, is a temporary thirty day ceasefire, and Putin
33:08
Speaker 16: has not agreed.
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Speaker 10: At all to that.
33:10
Speaker 16: Meanwhile, I know for a fact that he has conversations
33:14
Speaker 16: similar to what I'm about to pass on.
33:17
Speaker 10: Well, mister President, I want piece just like you do.
33:21
Speaker 16: But you know, we really have to solve the root
33:24
Speaker 16: causes of the problems here, you know, before we're able
33:27
Speaker 16: to really have a perman information. The second thing he says, well,
33:32
Speaker 16: I think it's really important for us to return to
33:35
Speaker 16: the economic relationship that both of our countries had for
33:39
Speaker 16: the mutual benefit of both of those So these are
33:42
Speaker 16: the pleasantries that he deals with the President on a
33:45
Speaker 16: regular basis. But meanwhile, when it comes to the battlefield
33:50
Speaker 16: and what he's doing, he's playing real hardball, as we
33:53
Speaker 16: have seen, and so the President is very frustrated.
33:58
Speaker 10: As a result of that.
33:59
Speaker 16: Putin's object have been stringing all of this out for
34:02
Speaker 16: the sake of your audience, has been to President Trump
34:05
Speaker 16: frustrated so much so that he will pull away in
34:09
Speaker 16: his support for Ukraine. That has been the objective in
34:14
Speaker 16: dealing with the discussions that they have had.
34:17
Speaker 10: So Putin has accomplished something. President Trump is frustrated.
34:22
Speaker 16: I guess what. He's not pulling away. He's indeed doubling down.
34:28
Speaker 16: So he's providing military assistance to Ukraine, things that they desire,
34:34
Speaker 16: and he is about and he's supporting the senators here
34:39
Speaker 16: in the United States and also supporting the Europeans who
34:44
Speaker 16: want to come down with cripple sanctions on the Russians,
34:47
Speaker 16: which I think we'll see evidence of later this week,
34:51
Speaker 16: if not then certainly next week. So that's kind of
34:54
Speaker 16: where we are with President Trump providing military assistance the
35:00
Speaker 16: Ukrainians and also supporting tough sanctions on Russia because he
35:05
Speaker 16: believes that Putin has just playing him and he's not
35:09
Speaker 16: making any progress to come to the negotiating table.
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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the US imposing sanctions
35:15
Speaker 2: against the un raperture on Palestinian rights Francesca Albanesi.
35:20
Speaker 3: The Secretary of State.
35:21
Speaker 2: Marco Rubio said it's for her illegitimate and shameful efforts
35:25
Speaker 2: to prompt action against US and Israeli officials, companies, and executives.
35:30
Speaker 3: This comes just over a week after the US.
35:33
Speaker 2: Demanded she be fired for virulent anti semitism and support
35:37
Speaker 2: for terrorism. General Jack Keane, why has the US acted
35:41
Speaker 2: so swiftly here.
35:42
Speaker 16: Well, we've got a long history of the politicization of
35:47
Speaker 16: the ic Seed that's been going on for many, many years,
35:52
Speaker 16: threatening calling our soldiers at the Court for actions in Afghanistan,
35:59
Speaker 16: and the huge undercurrent anti Semitism that exists in that organization.
36:07
Speaker 16: It is a political organization, doesn't come anything close to
36:11
Speaker 16: some kind of a judicial system that is about trying
36:15
Speaker 16: to establish justice and fairness. So our Secretary of State
36:21
Speaker 16: is pushing back rightfully so on what he's dealing with,
36:25
Speaker 16: then giving appropriate public attention to who these people are
36:30
Speaker 16: and what.
36:31
Speaker 3: They stand for before we let you go.
36:33
Speaker 2: An ally of the Iranian Supreme Leader has apparently joked
36:37
Speaker 2: that Iran could assassinate President Donald Trump at his Mari
36:40
Speaker 2: Lago resort in Florida. The advisor to Supreme Leader of Iran,
36:44
Speaker 2: Ayatola Ali Kamene, says Trump can no longer sunbathe in
36:48
Speaker 2: mary Lago because while he's lying down, a microdrone might
36:52
Speaker 2: target and strike him right in the Naval General cat.
36:55
Speaker 3: I mean, the remark was made on Iranian television this week.
36:59
Speaker 2: Even if it was intended as some sort of sick joke,
37:02
Speaker 2: does it feel the fire, especially if Iran does consider
37:05
Speaker 2: any sort of retaliation for the US attacks on its
37:08
Speaker 2: nuclear facilities.
37:10
Speaker 16: Iranz suffered a significant military defeat. They've been humiliated in
37:17
Speaker 16: their own country. These leaders, there's some significant divisions among
37:22
Speaker 16: the elites as a result of the debacle and fiasco
37:26
Speaker 16: that they've had to deal with. I mean, senior military leaders,
37:30
Speaker 16: their most senior military leaders were killed. Were they while
37:34
Speaker 16: they were sleeping all simultaneously in their homes or in
37:38
Speaker 16: their apartments? And another group was meeting the same thing
37:40
Speaker 16: with nuclear scientists, and they're just crashing ahead and saying
37:44
Speaker 16: how could that be? Also, the Israelis took down all
37:48
Speaker 16: seventy air defense batteries that they had put together after
37:53
Speaker 16: the Israeli strike on the S three hundred and S
37:56
Speaker 16: four hundred Russian advanced defense systems, And certainly the strike
38:03
Speaker 16: on their nuclear enterprise has been comprehensive and at a minimum,
38:08
Speaker 16: civility damaged them and set the program back a number
38:12
Speaker 16: of years, if not civilly destroyed.
38:17
Speaker 10: Much of it.
38:18
Speaker 16: That it couldn't be a worse situation that Iran is facing.
38:22
Speaker 16: I'm not seeing anything like it in a forty five
38:26
Speaker 16: years that they have been in power. They are publicly
38:30
Speaker 16: and internationally humiliated, they are weakened politically as a regime,
38:35
Speaker 16: and now we have this sophomore nonsense coming out of
38:39
Speaker 16: the legislature. I wonder why anybody would pay any attention
38:43
Speaker 16: to it, frankly, and we're giving it more.
38:46
Speaker 10: More attention than what it deserves.
38:50
Speaker 16: But that's I don't think it's worth a response in
38:53
Speaker 16: terms of the seriousness of it, other than the underscore
38:57
Speaker 16: that the Iranians, as we know by our intelligence services,
39:02
Speaker 16: had two plots to kill our President Trump and they
39:06
Speaker 16: have threatened to kill fifty five of our government officials
39:10
Speaker 16: who served in the first term, and one of those
39:14
Speaker 16: pluts was foiled against the former National Security Advisor, Ambassador
39:20
Speaker 16: John Paul. But they're back on their heels in a
39:24
Speaker 16: way that they've never been and it's nonsense runner at
39:29
Speaker 16: coming out of some of their government officials.
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Speaker 10: I don't think we need to take it too seriously.
39:35
Speaker 2: No fair enough, General Jack Kine, thank you so much
39:38
Speaker 2: for your time this evening.
39:39
Speaker 10: Yeah, and enjoyed talking to you. Thank you very much.
39:42
Speaker 2: Coming up after the brag, liberal leader Susan Lee's interview
39:45
Speaker 2: with The Woman's Weekly magazine as she continues her post
39:48
Speaker 2: election pitch to women plus, should there be a Minister
39:51
Speaker 2: for loneliness as more Aussies find it hard to connect.
39:54
Speaker 3: I'll ask my panel next welcome back well.
39:59
Speaker 2: Susan Lee has told of how she had to pull
40:01
Speaker 2: a gun on a menacing man during an interview with
40:03
Speaker 2: The Woman's Weekly. The magazine has showcased the Liberal leader
40:07
Speaker 2: at home and with her granddaughter as she talked about
40:10
Speaker 2: her life on the land.
40:12
Speaker 3: It comes as she made a fresh pitch to women.
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Speaker 17: And I will make it clear every single day that
40:18
Speaker 17: we do need to improve increase female representation in our
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Speaker 17: party and that means through the preselection processes and in
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Speaker 17: our parliament. I am an absolute zealot that we have
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Speaker 17: higher female representation and that we reflect Australia's women in
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Speaker 17: our party and in our policies.
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Speaker 2: Joiningy now a Sky News host Caroline Derusso and Frail Chart.
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Speaker 3: To both of you, thank you so much for joining
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Speaker 3: me on the show.
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Speaker 2: Caroline, what do you make of this rebrand Susan Lee's
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Speaker 2: I guess been given the star treatment and the Woman's
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Speaker 2: Weekly as a family woman.
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Speaker 3: What's the strategy here do you think?
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Speaker 1: Well?
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Speaker 18: I think it's really important that Australians get to know
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Speaker 18: who Susan Lee is and who her what her background is,
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Speaker 18: and her history and how she came to parliament. So
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Speaker 18: I think that's pretty new and pretty standard for any
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Speaker 18: sort of leader. And Susan has had quite a varied
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Speaker 18: background both in the Bush but also professionally and having
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Speaker 18: been born overseas, so there's a whole bunch of stuff there,
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Speaker 18: so it does make sense from that point of view.
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Speaker 18: The only thing that I would say that's interesting is well,
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Speaker 18: I think we probably do well the Liberal Party that
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Speaker 18: is does reasonably well with the demographic that reads the
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Speaker 18: Australian Women's Weekly. And I think that I think right,
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Speaker 18: And so I think that you know, that sort of
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Speaker 18: story is equally important in other sorts of media that
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Speaker 18: does pitch more directly to younger women.
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Speaker 2: And gen zs no. I think you do rate a
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Speaker 2: good point, Freyan. And as we've just heard, she's made
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Speaker 2: another pitch to women. She's repeating that line that she's
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Speaker 2: a zealot for having higher female representation.
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Speaker 3: Is it going to work? Is it going to have
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Speaker 3: any impacts?
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Speaker 19: Well, it depends what being zealot actually means. If it
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Speaker 19: means supporting quotas, which she hasn't rejected or accepted, for
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Speaker 19: means going down the quota's route, I think that is counterproductive.
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Speaker 3: For all women.
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Speaker 19: It puts a question mark over every woman's head. People
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Speaker 19: will constantly be thinking did she earn it on her
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Speaker 19: merit or is she just there because she's a woman,
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Speaker 19: And that is fundamentally insulting to all the incredible women
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Speaker 19: who've made it into Parliament in their own right. So
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Speaker 19: if it's about that, then that is not good. However,
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Speaker 19: if it's all.
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Speaker 20: About being seen to be listening, rebranding, going into media
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Speaker 20: that liberals haven't traditionally been in, like Women's Weekly, like podcasts,
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Speaker 20: non traditional media, then that could be good.
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Speaker 3: Then that could be good. I agree.
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Speaker 2: Now the new South Wales Director of Public Schools has
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Speaker 2: wiped its hands of punishing activist teachers. There's been calls
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Speaker 2: to reprimand teachers for behaviors such as wearing Palestinian Kefia
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Speaker 2: scarves or Palestinian T shirts to work. The department's wiping
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Speaker 2: its hands of this, Caroline. Shouldn't they be getting involved?
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Speaker 18: Well, you would think so, and I think that you
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Speaker 18: know schools. You know, there's enough issues in our schools
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Speaker 18: as it is, and particularly when you look at the
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Speaker 18: fundamentals of education standards and all those sorts of things.
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Speaker 18: What I would suggest, though, is to see whether they
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Speaker 18: actually want to get involved or don't want to get involved.
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Speaker 18: Is start an activism that's center right and put that
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Speaker 18: into public schools and just see how quickly the department
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Speaker 18: actually decides that bringing politics into the classroom is actually
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Speaker 18: a terrible idea.
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Speaker 2: It is a terrible idea and as brainwashing kids. At
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Speaker 2: the same time, should the department be stepping in.
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Speaker 3: From it, Well, totally.
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Speaker 19: If you don't take a very proactive approach to defend
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Speaker 19: our values, to defend the apolitical nature of classrooms, the left,
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Speaker 19: with their long march through the institutions, will simply keep marching.
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Speaker 19: You have to be proactive. You cannot let radicals embed
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Speaker 19: themselves into institutions.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 2: Look, I completely agree with you both. I just think
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Speaker 2: it's a real disgrace.
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Speaker 3: Now. I found this interesting today.
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Speaker 2: A Minister for loneliness has been proposed as part of
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Speaker 2: urgent reforms to tackle a growing mental health crisis in
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Speaker 2: the country. Now, loneliness affects up to one in five
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Speaker 2: people globally, with many Aussies admitting they find it hard
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Speaker 2: to connect. Oh Im and Caroline, do we really need
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Speaker 2: a minister to tell us this? Do we need more
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Speaker 2: red tape? And I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I don't think that's a solution to loneliness personally. No.
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Speaker 18: And the thought that the government is going to fix
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Speaker 18: this is just one It's terrifying, but two.
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Speaker 3: Anyone with half a.
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Speaker 18: Brain knows that it isn't going to work. And this
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Speaker 18: here is something here, This is a community issue. This
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Speaker 18: is about how people interact with other people. Go and
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Speaker 18: take up a hobby, join a club, go to work
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Speaker 18: instead of working from.
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Speaker 3: Home if you don't want to be lonely. And it's
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Speaker 3: all those.
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Speaker 18: Incidental interactions that we have with people which prior to
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Speaker 18: COVID we kind of took for granted that I think
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Speaker 18: COVID you know people are missing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, people. I agree with you Freyer. Do we need
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Speaker 2: a minister?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
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Speaker 19: And in fact government is a cause of a lot
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Speaker 19: of the loneliness, the fragmentation of the family unit, declining
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Speaker 19: connection to community, declining religiosity, declining involvement in civil society.
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Speaker 19: Because the government fixes all our problems. The answer is
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Speaker 19: a rejuvenation of national life, of family, life of relationships,
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Speaker 19: not more government bureaucracy.
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Speaker 2: Now you're both spound on. It's a community thing. This
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Speaker 2: is not a government issue. For goodness, like frail age,
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Speaker 2: carolindru So, I really appreciate your time, Thanks so much
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Speaker 2: for joining me. Coming up after the break see the
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Speaker 2: moment Reform UK leader Nigel Farage is heckled in the Commons,
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Speaker 2: plus a dot of a deal signed by the UK
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Speaker 2: to send migrants to France. At GB News host Patrick
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Speaker 2: Christie's joins me next.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back Reform.
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Speaker 2: UK leader Nigel Faraj has been heckled in the Commons
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Speaker 2: as he tried to question Prime Minister Kiir Starmer about
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Speaker 2: Brexit and immigration control. Nigel Joinmy Now is GB News
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Speaker 2: host Patrick Christie's.
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Speaker 3: Patrick could to see you did I actually know?
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Speaker 2: This helps Nigel Farage when they carry on like that.
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Speaker 21: This is the perfect advert for Nangel Farrage and only
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Speaker 21: goes to prove how out of touch most of those
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Speaker 21: politicians are.
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Speaker 15: He's experienced it before. This is why he let them
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Speaker 15: carry on doing it.
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Speaker 21: For a bit of context as well, one of the
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Speaker 21: MPs behind him there had previously spoken in the House
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Speaker 21: of Commons about how it should be legal for you
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Speaker 21: to have sexual relations with your first cousin because of
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Speaker 21: certain cultural differences.
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Speaker 15: Another MP there was Jeremy Corbyn.
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Speaker 21: Very check at history when it comes to ties to
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Speaker 21: groups like Hamas et cetera.
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Speaker 15: So yeah, he's getting.
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Speaker 21: Hackled overtly by those people.
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Speaker 15: I don't think that does him any harm. Whatsoever. It
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Speaker 15: just shows how rattled they are.
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Speaker 21: For context, Nigel Farrage is currently in a boat in
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Speaker 21: the English Channel watching illegal migrants come to Britain as
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Speaker 21: our Prime Minister, Circuit Star is trying to sign a
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Speaker 21: migrant deal with the French that wouldn't even send one
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Speaker 21: boatload of those people back to France every single week.
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Speaker 15: So there you go.
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Speaker 2: Well, I want to ask you about that because this
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Speaker 2: was a much anticipated migration deal yet it's going to
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Speaker 2: return a tiny fraction of dinghy migrants to France at
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Speaker 2: just fifty a week.
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Speaker 3: It sounds like a complaint.
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Speaker 21: Doug Patrick, we have several hundred illegal immigrants currently in
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Speaker 21: the Channel right now on their way to Britain. We've
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Speaker 21: got them on film at gb News being towed into
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Speaker 21: British waters by the French and carried over by Border Force.
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Speaker 15: Do you know we've given the.
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Speaker 21: French more than seven hundred million pounds to stop the boats.
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Speaker 21: And I went over to Calais there's a huge migrant
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Speaker 21: camp via beach. They haven't even put a fence up
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Speaker 21: to stop them getting to the beach.
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Speaker 15: It's ridiculous. So what a circuit Starma decided to do?
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Speaker 21: Roll out the red carpet for Tim Pott, Napoleon, Emmanuel Macron,
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Speaker 21: and then they're.
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Speaker 15: Going to say that, okay, we'll send fifty back a week.
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Speaker 15: This is the big problem. You get everything for free
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Speaker 15: in Britain if you're.
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Speaker 21: Ive illegally, clothes, house phones, pocket money, legal fees, driving lessons,
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Speaker 21: you can.
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Speaker 15: Train to become a nightclub DJ. If you're an illegal.
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Speaker 21: Migrant and you live in the Croydon area of London,
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Speaker 21: we'll even pay some of them. Pay some of them
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Speaker 21: to leave, get free education for their kids, and they
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Speaker 21: get to skip the healthcare Q. Why not break into Britain.
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Speaker 2: I just find it absolutely extraordinary what's going over there
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Speaker 2: on in the UK, Patrick, when you've got these migrants
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Speaker 2: basically being treated like kings and queens, but your average
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Speaker 2: britt can't get the same In return, Patrick Christie's we
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Speaker 2: have to leave it there. Thank you very much for
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Speaker 2: joining me on the show this evening. Really appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Well that is it for me. Thank you so much
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Speaker 2: for your company this week on Andrew Bolt's show. I'll
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Speaker 2: be back tomorrow night for my own show at five pm,
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Speaker 2: but stay with us. Coming up right now is Shari
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Speaker 2: markson Good night