Latest / Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning / Has The Big Ten Passed The SEC In Football?

Transcript

Has The Big Ten Passed The SEC In Football? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning for Tuesday, May twenty seventh.
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tom Moore. The Texas game in ninety
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: five days, the game against Michigan in one hundred and
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: eighty six days. If you're planning your next event, make
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: it unforgettable with Grateful Griddle, Columbus's favorite food truck serving
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: up Smashburger's gourmet sandwiches and good Vibes. Book You're catering
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: today at gratefulgriddleoh dot com. Got a presentation of the
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: Daily Huddle podcast coming for you here. But first I
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: want to let you know about a new episode of
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: the Buckeye Weekly Podcast that Tony Garderman and I recorded
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: on Monday, talking about the buckeyes favorite friends up north,
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: the Michigan Wolverines, and what exactly the punishment could end
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: up looking like. Tony went about things in the usual
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: creative way that he often does. We talked about a
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: bunch of that on the Buckeye Weekly Podcast, so make
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: sure you check that one out.
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: Onto the new episode from the Daily Huddle Podcast. Garrett
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: Seawright does a great job on that show. He taken
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a hiatus over the offseason. He
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: is back now and he just had a great show
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: talking about some comments from urban Meyer with the question
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: general thrust being has the Big Ten passed the SEC
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: in terms of football? But that was a really interesting question.
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: I thought this was a really interesting take from Garrett.
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: So here you go, Garrett se right on the Daily
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: Huddle podcast. If you enjoy this one like I did,
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe to the Daily Huddle podcast wherever
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: you get Buck Guys tomorrow morning.
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: There are few people who are more intricately familiar with
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: the modern SEC and Big Ten quite like urban Meyer,
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: and so when he talks about the similarities and differences
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: between those two conferences, I'm going to listen. I'm going
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: to hear what urban Meyer has to say because not
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: only working in the SEC and working in the Big Ten,
• 1:48
  Speaker 2: but then working against the Big Ten and SEC, his
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: opinion matters. And so when he said last week that
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: he believes the Big Ten has passed the SEC by
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: it got people talking because.
• 2:04
  Speaker 3: Urban Meyer's opinion matters. It matters what he has to say.
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: And if you missed his comments he said on a podcast,
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: he said, you know what the SEC has done, It's
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: raised the level. But the Big Ten has passed the
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: SEC at the upper part. If you would have told
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: me that ten years ago, I would have said, it's
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: not even close, because it's not.
• 2:25
  Speaker 3: End quote. Is urban Meyer right or wrong about that?
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: Has the Big Ten passed the SEC in the upper echelons?
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: I think it's hard to argue that it hasn't, at
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: least right now, because the same arguments that have been
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: made by the SEC for so long about how and
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: why it's the top dog on the block.
• 2:52
  Speaker 3: Now relate to the Big Ten.
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: For so long, the SEC was able to say we
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: win national championships. The Big Tens won the last two
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: national championships. You could argue, I think you'd be wrong
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: for this argument that the twenty twenty four National Championship
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: pitted two Big ten teams against each other in Michigan
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: and Washington, and then in twenty twenty five the semi
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: finals there were two Big ten teams, one of them
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: advanced on to what play the National Championship game and
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: win the National Championship. The last two National champions have
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: been Big ten teams, and so I think it's really
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: difficult to argue that win. For so long, the SEC
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: stance and argument, and it's an undeniably good argument. Of
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: our conference wins the national championship every year, that's a
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: really hard thing to argue. The Big Tens won the
• 3:56
  Speaker 2: last two I think the SEC argument would be like, yeah,
• 3:59
  Speaker 2: we won like few teen of seventeen, okay, fair, but
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: what have you done for me lately over the course
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: of the last couple of seasons?
• 4:08
  Speaker 3: Is the Big Ten better at the top?
• 4:11
  Speaker 2: Maybe not top to bottom, because I think that's a
• 4:13
  Speaker 2: hard argument to make because I think at a lot
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: of conferences there are some really bad teams at the bottom.
• 4:21
  Speaker 2: The Big Ten has some really bad teams. Is the
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: Big tens bad worst? Is the Big Ten's worst worse
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: than the SEC's worst, Probably, But I think it's really
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: hard to argue that the Big Ten's best has been
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: better than the SEC's best. The last couple of seasons,
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: Texas was the SEC runner up and they lost to
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: the Big Ten, didn't make the championship game team in
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: the playoffs, Georgia won the SEC. Now they weren't playing
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: with a full deck, but they lost to Notre Dame.
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: There was a time where winning or even making the
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: SEC Championship game made you an automatic favorite.
• 5:15
  Speaker 3: And that is not the case right now.
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: And you could argue that NIL has maybe leveled the
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: playing field a little bit in the SEC, or that
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: new teams, new programs, coaches going to different programs have
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: leveled the playing field in the SEC. But the Big Ten,
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: there are a couple of teams with ten and a
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: half win totals the over under win totals from Vegas
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: ten and a half coming into a twenty twenty five season.
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: That's not the case for the SEC. And again the
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: argument is probably, well, the SEC top to bottom is
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: better than the Big Ten, and I don't think that's
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: an unfair stance to take.
• 6:00
  Speaker 3: But that doesn't prove urban Meyer right. It doesn't prove
• 6:03
  Speaker 3: urban meyor wrong. Because urban Meyer's talking about the top,
• 6:08
  Speaker 3: the elite, the upper crust of each conference.
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: Is the upper crust of the Big ten better than
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: the SEC right now? I don't see how you can
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: argue anything differently. I don't know how you can say
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: that it's anything but yeah, the Big ten right now.
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: And it's because the Big ten got it. Task kicks
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: for a really long time, and so those schools put
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: the money into facilities, put the money into nutrition, into
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: weight rooms, into support staff, into.
• 6:45
  Speaker 3: Travel, into coaching salaries.
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: They, to their credit, recognized that they were behind the
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: SEC in a lot of different fashion and facets. And
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: for a really long time, the Big Ten recruited Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota,
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: et cetera. The upper crust teams could get kids from
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: Texas and California and Florida, but the Illinois and.
• 7:17
  Speaker 3: The Iowas of the world.
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: We're not going to go to Florida, California, Texas and
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: win recruiting battles. And then Urban Meyra went to Ohio
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: State and said, I'm going to recruit the best kids possible,
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: and I don't care where they're from. I don't care
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: if they fit inside the Big ten footprint or not.
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: And then he started to kick everybody's Big Ten's ass,
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: and so that everybody in the Big Ten then had
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: to pivot and go, wait a second, we got to
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: recruit the best kids possible too. And all it did
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: was lived the Big Ten out of the dumpster, so
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: to speak, and it made the conference better. That's not
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: to say that it couldn't be different. In twenty twenty five,
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: that there might be some in the SEC. There could
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: be a Texas, there could be a Florida, a Georgia,
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: an LSU that just comes out and dominates from day
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: one and goes on to win the national championship and
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: make this all potentially a moot point. But right now,
• 8:17
  Speaker 2: as it sits here in May of twenty twenty five,
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: I think it's really difficult to argue anything other than
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: the Big ten's best is better than the SEC's best.
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: The argument from the SEC continues to be, well, look
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: at the first round NFL, look at the talent, look
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: at the And that was the argument in the College
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: Football Playoff when Alabama didn't get the final spot, was well,
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: if you ask any NFL draft scout, they're gonna tell
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: you that the best challenge to the SEC, it sure
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: as hell ain't at SMU. That's great, but the results
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: on the field have to matter. And so it cannot
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: be that when the SEC performs really well in bowl games,
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: it's it's because we're superior, and then when the SEC
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: performs really poorly in bowl games, it's, well, they didn't
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: even want to be there.
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: It can't be both. It can't be the only thing
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: that matters.
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: It's national championships, and then when you stop winning national championships, go, well,
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: actually it's about first round NFEL Draft talent. Sorry, you
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: can't always have it your way, And I think that's
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: kind of the message for mermer Meyer is like, hey, listen,
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: you guys dominated this thing for like two decades, and
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: now you're not dominating now due to a variety of circumstances.
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: The deck isn't necessarily stacked in your favor, and you're
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: gonna have to fight for it. You're gonna have to
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: work for it. It's not just going to be that
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: the big dent rolls over and lets you have top
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: dolk status. And I think that's a good thing for
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: the sport overall. I don't think you should want the
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: same Like in the fourteen College Football Playoff was nine teams.
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: Eleven teams made the fourteen College Football Playoff, ever, and
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: in the twelve team College Football Playoff, we've already had
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: twelve different team. That's a bad joke. But I think
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: you should want to avoid dynasties as much as possible
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: because when you're on like Georgia versus Clemson, Alabama, Alabama
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: versus Clemson Georgia versus Alabama Round number nine.
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: Aykay, it didn't really do much for it anymore.
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: But when you get new blood, different fan bases, different
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: faces at the highest levels of the sport, I think
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: that's a good thing for the sport overall.
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: So was Urban Meyer right? Is the Big Ten.
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: The best of the Big Ten above the SEC's best
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: right now? I think the answer to that is hell yeah.
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: And I don't know how you can argue that, but
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: I'm willing to hear your argument. I want to hear
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: from you SEC fans. Why do you believe that you're
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: still the ten thousand pound gorilla that hasn't been dethroned yet.
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: I want to hear from me in the comments below.
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: That'll do it for today's episode of The Daily Huddle.
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you making us a part of your day, however
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: it is, wherever it is you're doing so. If you're
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: watching it on YouTube, hit the subscribe button make sure
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: you get in all the great college football content we're
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: pumping out. If you're listening on the podcast feed, drop
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: a five star review. It goes a long way in
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: helping out the channel. I'll see you tomorrow for another
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: episode of the Daily Huddle