Latest / HEAVY Music Interviews / The Healing Powers Of Time With JONNY DAVY From JOB FOR A COWBOY
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- 0:44Yeah, I am Johnny the singer of Job for a Cowboy. This band
- 0:48has been around shockingly are doesn't feel like it for a good twenty years,
- 0:52and after about a ten year hiatus, we're about to come out with their
- 0:56new album called Moon Healer, coming out next month at the end of February.
- 1:00So I am pumped to speak with you know, this individual from the
- 1:06vast expanse of existence where shadows dance on the edge of the abyss, where
- 1:10he emerges a figure of mythical proportions. This is Chris. Chris. It's
- 1:15nice to meet you, man. Nice to me. That's probably the nicest
- 1:19thing anyone even much more said about me. Thanks for joining us today.
- 1:25Yeah, man, good to speak with you. As you said, Job
- 1:29for a Cowboy return with your new album Moon here on February twenty third.
- 1:33So how you feeling, mate, Like, what's this period like for you?
- 1:36Like did you get nervous or do you get anxious? Do you put
- 1:38it to bed? Do you think about what you could have done or should
- 1:41have done? At this point, it's it's in the past and we're uh,
- 1:45we've taken a break from it and in hindsight where we're looking back gulready
- 1:49and seeing what we would have done differently, and already talking about what we
- 1:53want to do for the next record in contrast. So yeah, it's just
- 1:56been a long, long, arduous process, but we're finally here. So
- 2:00tell us a bit more about the album from a musical point of view,
- 2:02might and what you have gone forward it. Yeah, you know, the
- 2:07band has evolved quite a bit since its origins. I mean, we kind
- 2:10of started off as pretty much a cookie cutter death core band, and then
- 2:15we kind of progressed into a more modern death metal and we kind of after
- 2:22a release of Genesis, were kind of been sprinkling, sprinkling and genres,
- 2:25you know, of technical death metal and now even some progressive elements. So
- 2:31you know, I think a lot of people recognize that a band is kind
- 2:35of a cauldron of of an evolution of sound, and that's that's just kind
- 2:39of a model right now. We like the challenge and we're the type of
- 2:44band they just don't want to put out the same record twice, So that's
- 2:47just kind of our mindset with everything. Today you've released the singles that Forever
- 2:53Wrought, the Agony, Seeping Storm, and today I think it once you
- 2:55released Beyond the Chemical Doorways watchers those three songs to represent the album. Did
- 3:00they sum it up nicely? Although just your favorite ones? Yeah, you
- 3:07know that's always a big argument with the band. You know, we usually
- 3:12have a song on the record, we're like, Okay, this is going
- 3:14to be the single, These are gonna be the singles. With this one,
- 3:16it felt a lot harder than it ever was before. We feel like
- 3:21the songs are all pretty strong, and it's one of those things where we
- 3:25kind of like one song one week and another song next week. It's but
- 3:30over. I think these three individual songs definitely encomass the entire record pretty well.
- 3:35And Beyond the Chemical Doorway also I open to the album made and it's
- 3:38an interesting choice, like let's going to almost Middle Eastern style intro before expiring
- 3:43into what fans would expect from me. So it's an interesting way. Side
- 3:46was that to sort of put people off side a little bit to startle for
- 3:49it? No, I mean, honestly don't have a good answer for that.
- 3:53It's just kind of the way it came out. It's just kind of
- 3:54just a I wish I had a good answer for that, But you know,
- 4:00once we Uh, I mean I think we did intend originally we wrote
- 4:04that song that we wanted that to be the opener, So we definitely wrote
- 4:10it and built it from the ground up with that intent. You saw the
- 4:15touched on this before by but Mainhaler is your first album since twenty fourteen Sinata,
- 4:18which was a pretty cool success. So was it tempting to sort of
- 4:21rehash that formula in the way like not on the people privatated towards that album.
- 4:27Was it tempting to sort of try and do the same thing over Well?
- 4:31After we put out Son Eater, the band pretty much took a very
- 4:35strong hiatus. Uh, Real Lives got kind of got put in the forefront.
- 4:43You know, around that time I found I was gonna come a father.
- 4:46That definitely put the brakes in on the band. And you know,
- 4:49we were touring relentlessly NonStop, and at that point we were the type of
- 4:57band that kind of burned the candle at both ends. Were just NonStop,
- 5:01and I think it was a good collection of being very burnt out, a
- 5:08bit sick of each other, a bit sick of being on the road,
- 5:11plus real life getting in the way. So we kind of had ah take
- 5:15a different path. You know, four Khit the road Tony or lead guitar
- 5:17player. He moved to Ireland and got his doctorates in the medical field.
- 5:21He's doing a lot of medical research in Ireland right now. I went back
- 5:25to college and worked on my degree in computer programming and software engineering, so
- 5:29I do a lot of just automation type work today. But uh, I've
- 5:34been rambless so long. I forgot the initial question. Sorry, was attempting
- 5:40to sort of rehash the same same successful formula, right right, I'm sorry,
- 5:45So yeah, so you so, because I just we fell off facer
- 5:49there. If we didn't do any press, we didn't do any touring,
- 5:53it felt like we had some unfinished business after that record, and also just
- 5:57conceptually in the theme of the record, there's just felt like there's so much
- 6:00more on the bone that we could work with that, and we just enjoyed
- 6:04the record so much. I think it was by far our our proudest achievement
- 6:09as a band. Too. To avoid sounding as pretentious as possible, but
- 6:15uh, you know, because of that, we just decided let's just pick
- 6:19up where he left off, and I think it worked out. I mean,
- 6:21we had all this time to look at that record and and consider our
- 6:26weaknesses and our strong points, and we just try to focus more at the
- 6:30things that were good on that record, and we try to bring that out
- 6:31more on this new one. And you both are welcomed by session drama on
- 6:36Navain couple ways and into the band on this album. So what what what
- 6:41the road to the sound? Uh? Navegne Is. I think of an
- 6:46extremely underrated drummer. I mean, he could do it all. He's an
- 6:47amazing guitar player. He's an amazing drummer. He's a producer. I've known
- 6:51him him since the very the very early stages of Jeoffer Cowboy. We we
- 6:57would play a bunch of local shows like I think they did it toward origin.
- 7:01Once we were on the bill band called Into the Moat back in the
- 7:05day from metably there on the bill and then our very first internet not international,
- 7:12but our first full us was with called Decapitation, Misery, Index Animosity,
- 7:16which is Navine's old band, and jov for Cowboy was the opener and
- 7:20those guys really took us under their wing. That really showed us the ropes
- 7:24of pouring and he was just so we just wrote a bunch of demos and
- 7:30gave it to him. He went in to Studentho just played whatever he wanted
- 7:31over it, and we thought it came out amazingly. So that's just kind
- 7:34of the origins with us in Navine Thank Now Mary Nayler is a conceptually based
- 7:40album. Can you run us through that concept and how it sort of waves
- 7:44throughund the record? Yeah? So, uh, I guess you gotta start
- 7:46with Sun Either because it was a collection of songs that it's pretty much a
- 7:50story of a really close front of the band. He lost touch of reality
- 7:57a bit. He abused a lot of hallucinogenic drugs. He'd even he considered
- 8:01he considered himself to be a bit of an alchemist because he would even brew
- 8:05his own drugs at home. He'd be his own guinea pig. He was
- 8:09a bit of a space cadet, and you know, sometimes I think everyone
- 8:13knows that person that could be kind of fun etcterc and just all over the
- 8:18place. But he took it a bit too far, and I think it
- 8:20really put a dark cloud over his life and took a lot of bad directions
- 8:26in life because of it. So Sun Eater was kind of a third person
- 8:31perspective it was kind of viewing on all the choices he made on how that
- 8:37affected his life. And with this new album, Moon Healer, it's more
- 8:39of a first person perspective where I try to put myself in his shoes,
- 8:45look through his eyes on all this beliefs, whether it be religion, politics,
- 8:52the afterlife, could just over the top conspiracies, and you know,
- 8:58it's it's interesting going through that process because you know, he would actually send
- 9:05these very elaborate emails to his very close friends and very close family of of
- 9:13all these topics he was into, and I kind of use those as reference
- 9:16to build the lyrics for this record. So it's it's interesting in hindsight because
- 9:22now I have a much better understanding of this person. I kind of feel
- 9:26like I can see where he's coming from a bit now cool, I'm not.
- 9:30We're trying with the great cover art. Then that's got a five rating,
- 9:33skull in the marine and assortment of other visual riches. Like I was
- 9:37gonna say, it looks like a bad acid trip, but you've just explained
- 9:39that is that's kind of it. You know, you look at a demethyl
- 9:43trip to me, just a lot of stuff like that, and uh,
- 9:48that the artist Tony Uh always forget how to pronounce his last name, Cole
- 9:52or Keel. He did the artwork for stun Eater and Moon Healer, and
- 9:58he's a type of guy that kind of reminds me of this in Vigil who
- 10:00kind of took these hallucinenic drugs maybe a bit too far. Uh. They
- 10:05have a lot of personalities that kind of HARKing into each other. And as
- 10:11soon as I explained all these ideas and theories to him, he knew of
- 10:13all of them. Of course. So the artwork he came back with,
- 10:18which is the first try, was dead on. It was like, oh,
- 10:20this is perfect, it looks it looks great. Now you sort of
- 10:24touch on this briefly before my event, I would one got into a bit
- 10:26more depth with you, Like the band's sound has changed quite markedly over your
- 10:31albums from your two thousand and seven day brig Genesis to mean here, let's
- 10:35say, but we're all those changes planned or preempted or do they sort of
- 10:39all flow on from album to album? I don't you know. I can't
- 10:46say we really planned to. I mean we've definitely had some some lineup changes
- 10:50here and there. I mean we've had essentially the same lineup since the record
- 10:54after Genesis. But no, it's just I think it's just happened in just
- 11:00from like I said earlier, every record that we work on, we like
- 11:03to go back and pick at it, dissect it, and just figure out
- 11:07what we can do better the next time. And I think that's just this
- 11:11has just been a natural progression. Yeah, so we're to say that was
- 11:16more experiment right, or you're still sort of searching a few musical identity In
- 11:20a way, there's definitely a lot of experimentation, you know. It's it's
- 11:24funny with the band, it's I'm the sole original member at this point,
- 11:28and but I wouldn't say, you know, it's it's my way or the
- 11:35highway. With every song, every riff, every piece, it's a democracy,
- 11:39and if if we don't like a section or a riff, we we
- 11:45throw it in the trash bin. So I guess, uh, I guess
- 11:50yeah, we do. We do obviously the door for experimentation and we always
- 11:54embrace it. But it's just it's just always a long process, right all
- 12:00right, Johnny, Well, thanks very much for your time today, mate.
- 12:01Your new album Moon Here that is out Febuary twenty third, and I
- 12:05had listened before the interview. Mane, she's an absolute cracker. Weld an,
- 12:07congratulations and look forward to hearing a thank you very much. Sure,
- 12:11I appreciate it now, brother, I enjoy the rest of your day.
- 13:11That's two minutes, pasure, I say, somebody four guy was thirst long
- 13:33job. I'm packing number jamb the love I get my shot the way I'm
- 13:50gonna die, but I'm still making number stout. PRIs my charge. Bless
- 14:01a great metal right dies away. I go just the go and my cousins.
- 14:18That is my guys, ice bice, I do don't look no h
- 15:00I I cann my shadows the girl my words. I said that destroy yourself,
- 15:43your soul. I know that A thing about that side my joy?
- 16:00Why start right? No right, no se ict twice what they got nothing?
- 16:29No cars, no star like that, no man shots by start good
- 16:45guy got on stocks by stop he d no, no, don't I play
- 18:03the bars, my boys at the bars and lay my do don't don't