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Je Suis Charlie From CALGARY ALBERTA | HBR News 519 · Honey Badger Radio

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Speaker 1: I'm just probably get the microphone. Okay, Hello everybody, and
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Speaker 1: five nineteen Jay, Sweet Carl Charlie from Calgary, Alberta. So
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Speaker 1: Hannah and doctor Randabercam as always, and we're gonna be
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, right. So anyway, we have a lot
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Speaker 1: it as light as we can be with you know,
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Speaker 1: with regards to recent events. And I may open the
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Speaker 1: one though. So let us now get into today's stories.
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Speaker 1: Let me switch. So you probably heard something happened recently
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Speaker 1: On step Stember tenth, twenty twenty five, Barley Kirk, a
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Speaker 1: thirty one year old influential conservative activist and close ally
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Speaker 1: of President Donald Trump, was fatally shot during a public
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Speaker 1: speaking event at Utah Valley University in Orum, Utah. The
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Speaker 1: incident occurred around twelve twenty pm as Kirk, known for
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Speaker 1: his proved me wrong debate style and leadership of Turning
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Speaker 1: Point USA, was answering a question about transgender mass shooters
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Speaker 1: in front of approximately three thousand attendees, which is still
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Speaker 1: smaller than this crowd by the way. The shooter, identified
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Speaker 1: as twenty two year old Taylor or Tyler Robinson, fired
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Speaker 1: a single bullet from a rooftop, striking Kirk in the neck,
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Speaker 1: an act captured on security cameras showing the suspect climbing
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Speaker 1: stairwells and fleeing the scene. The killing, which Trump labeled
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Speaker 1: a heinous assassination, took place amid a surge in US
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Speaker 1: political violence, with over one hundred and fifty politically motivated
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Speaker 1: attacks reported in the first half of twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 1: marking a significant escalation since the January twenty one capital incident.
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Speaker 1: Following the assassination, authorities quickly released images and video of
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Speaker 1: a person of interest, later confirmed as Robinson, wearing a
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Speaker 1: distinctive black top with an American flag and eagle design,
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Speaker 1: black sunglasses, and Converse shoes. A rifle believed to be
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Speaker 1: the murder weapon was recovered, and a one hundred thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars FBI reward led to Robinson's arrest on September twelfth,
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. That would be today, as confirmed by
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Speaker 1: Utah Governor Spencer Cox, and Trump investigators noted that Robinson's
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Speaker 1: family reported his expressed animosity towards Kirk, citing the activists
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Speaker 1: perceive hate as a motive. The event drew widespread condemnation
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Speaker 1: from figures across a political spectrum, including former President George W.
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Speaker 1: Bush and Joe Biden, UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer, and
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Speaker 1: even liberal commentator Dean Withers, highlighting concerns about escalating political
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Speaker 1: violence and its impact on free speech, especially given Kirk's
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Speaker 1: role as a father of two and a key figure
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Speaker 1: in mobilizing young conservative voters. So, I mean, there's more
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Speaker 1: I could say about this. I've said a lot in
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Speaker 1: the latter, just like since it's happened and it's been
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Speaker 1: on my mind. I had trouble sleeping for a couple
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Speaker 1: of nights after this happened. But I'm gonna let Mike
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Speaker 1: or Hannah take the you know, say a few words
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Speaker 1: about the story if you guys want so, which one
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Speaker 1: of you guys wants to go first, give me that
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Speaker 1: all right, here you go.
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about the shooter or any
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Speaker 2: of the conjectures. Still being made about because it's not
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Speaker 2: the point. It seems almost counterintuitive that this has put
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Speaker 2: the shits up people far more than the Trump assassination
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Speaker 2: attempt the first one. I mean, there was certainly a
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Speaker 2: lot more on the line when Trump almost died, but
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Speaker 2: that's the point. He didn't die. If he did, there
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Speaker 2: would have been the boogoloo to end or bogleo is.
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Speaker 2: They probably would have been rioting in the streets and
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Speaker 2: a bunch of mostly peaceful us and attacks and whatnot.
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Speaker 2: They might even have been that civil war thing that
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Speaker 2: we've all been warned about for a our time. But
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Speaker 2: we're not in that timeline. We're in a timeline one
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Speaker 2: inch to the right of that timeline where Trump got
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Speaker 2: shot but didn't die, and in the aftermath all we
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Speaker 2: had to witness online was a load of nasty bastards
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Speaker 2: lamenting that their favorite boogeyman didn't die and ghoulishly praying
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Speaker 2: that he does. It's a whole different kettle fish where
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Speaker 2: not only does a man actually die in such a
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Speaker 2: harrowing way, but we watched it happen, We saw it
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Speaker 2: close up. For all the pretend violence we see in
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Speaker 2: movies and TV's not every day we watch a real
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Speaker 2: person get murdered in real time. It's extremely rare, actually
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Speaker 2: that we're ever presented with that kind of footage, and
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Speaker 2: now we know why. It genuinely chills you to the bone.
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Speaker 2: To see that happen. You kind of sort of stop
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Speaker 2: breathing for a few seconds, and your eyeballs sort of
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Speaker 2: bulge out and sort of freeze in place, and your
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Speaker 2: summit feels weird. You can't even cry because it happens
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Speaker 2: so fast and it's just too much to take in,
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Speaker 2: so you just sort of short circuit. Call me a
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Speaker 2: pussy if you like, for having that kind of emotional reaction.
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Speaker 2: That's fine. I will go ahead and call you a
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Speaker 2: demon for not having it, because that's the other thing.
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Speaker 2: It's not necessarily the murder itself that's made us so angry.
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Speaker 2: The death was sad and tragic. What made us angry
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Speaker 2: is the idea that someone, anyone, can watch that footage
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Speaker 2: and feel delight. A lot of them did watch the footage.
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Speaker 2: They didn't just hear about it. They watched it happen,
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Speaker 2: and then they smiled and they laughed and they danced
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Speaker 2: in the aisles like underwork nurses dicking around while people
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Speaker 2: are getting their lungs blown out in the next room.
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Speaker 2: There are some dark thoughts that I can understand if
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Speaker 2: I use my imagination, Like how you can secretly hope
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Speaker 2: that bad things happened to someone, or even wish that
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Speaker 2: they would die, like in a moment of rage and
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Speaker 2: vengeance when you sort of lose yourself. But in no
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Speaker 2: nightmare recess of my mind, can I countenances how anyone
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Speaker 2: could actually watch a defenseless man get murdered in cold
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Speaker 2: blood and then celebrate it, even if it's someone you hate,
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Speaker 2: even if it's like the Sama bin Laden or something,
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Speaker 2: even if you believe he really was responsible for three
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Speaker 2: thousand deaths. You'd be okay with him being assassinated, and
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Speaker 2: you'd be okay with just knowing he's dead. You'd be
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Speaker 2: okay with taking someone's word for it, but you wouldn't
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Speaker 2: want to watch it actually happening. Charlie Kirk didn't kill anyone,
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Speaker 2: He didn't even hurt anyone. He just had opinions and
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Speaker 2: express them. But people watched the life leave his body
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Speaker 2: and they rejoiced. It just doesn't make sense. It can't
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Speaker 2: make sense. I can't understand how any human mind can
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Speaker 2: work like that, and if it ever does, I would
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Speaker 2: only expect it from serial killers, cannibals, amateur torturers, that
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Speaker 2: sort of thing. They kind of one in a million
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Speaker 2: person who belongs in solitary confinement for the rest of
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Speaker 2: their lives being stared at through a tiny window by
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Speaker 2: criminal psychology professors with clipboards. So what's really put the
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Speaker 2: shits up us is discovering that we are, in fact,
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Speaker 2: surrounded by people whose brains work like that. They're in
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Speaker 2: every city, they're in every town, probably in every street,
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Speaker 2: and certainly in every college. They probably outnumber us in
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Speaker 2: most colleges. So it's not just mental illness, it's not
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Speaker 2: even mental illness. Mental illness of that magnitude is rare,
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Speaker 2: vanishingly rare. What we're dealing with is evil. There's actually,
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Speaker 2: there's no other way to describe it. They're not just NPCs.
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Speaker 2: They are demons. They are barons of hell. They don't
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Speaker 2: have a mentally ill conscience. They simply don't have a conscience.
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Speaker 1: It's been taken from them.
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Speaker 2: Their souls have been sucked out from an early age
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Speaker 2: and now there's nothing left. They weren't bond demons. They
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Speaker 2: became demons.
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Speaker 1: A lot of us have.
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Speaker 2: Landed on this same terminology, like independently from each other.
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Speaker 2: Whatever religious or spiritual beliefs we may have or not have,
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Speaker 2: we've concluded that these are demons. We're not talking about
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Speaker 2: a hell that you go to after you die. We're
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Speaker 2: talking about hell on earth. It's real and we're watching
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Speaker 2: it happen. We're talking about demons on earth. They are real,
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Speaker 2: and we could hear them cackling in the fires all
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Speaker 2: around us.
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Speaker 1: And they're proud of it.
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Speaker 2: By the way, they're not just remorseless, they're not just unashamed.
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Speaker 2: They are proud. They're patting each other on the back
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Speaker 2: and sucking each other's scaly demon appendages for upholding what
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Speaker 2: they consider it to be virtues. You'd think some kind
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Speaker 2: of glimmer of humanity would flash past them at some
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Speaker 2: point and give them a moment's pause. Maybe we should
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Speaker 2: tone down our rhetoric just to smidgen. No, it's the
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Speaker 2: murder victims who are wrong. These people are psychotic, and
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Speaker 2: we live in a psychocracy. We are ruled over by
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Speaker 2: people who can only find happiness in cruelty and slaughter
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Speaker 2: and death. They have no breaks on this train and
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Speaker 2: they have no reverse gear. There's no compromising, there's no diplomacy,
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Speaker 2: there's no peaceful revolution, there is only war. And no,
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Speaker 2: that does not mean I'm glorifying killing. That is what
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Speaker 2: you people are doing, literally and to the letter. Just
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Speaker 2: for argument's sake, I want to be able to say,
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Speaker 2: imagine if milk Toast lefty commentator was murdered just for speaking.
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Speaker 2: But no matter which Milk Toast lefty commentator I name you,
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Speaker 2: broken buses would chant you're inciting murder against milk Toast
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Speaker 2: lefty commentators while you literally incite murder against Milk Toasts
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Speaker 2: righty commentators. At long last, have you no shame stupidest
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Speaker 2: question I've ever asked?
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Speaker 3: Now?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, by war, I mean culture war, that thing I
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Speaker 2: mean cancelation war. We've been taking the high road for
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Speaker 2: the last dozen years and more in the hopes that
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Speaker 2: you people would follow our example and stop persecuting people
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Speaker 2: for their opinions. But you've only gotten worse, and now
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Speaker 2: you're flagrantly at the point where you're proudly declaring that
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Speaker 2: we deserve to be murdered for expressing our opinions. And
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Speaker 2: now we've finally reached the point where we think you
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Speaker 2: deserve to be fired for expressing opinions like that. And
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Speaker 2: we're the hypocrites, are we bro We're just ten years
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Speaker 2: behind you. We've finally reached the conclusion that we can't
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Speaker 2: just play defensively anymore, and our only option is to
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Speaker 2: fight back with the very weapons you've chosen for this duel.
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Speaker 2: We're done reasoning, we're done debating, we're done praying. Praying
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Speaker 2: is all well and good when you feel like it's
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Speaker 2: all you can do, but it's not. So we're getting
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Speaker 2: off our knees and we're standing up with parting our
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Speaker 2: hands and we're clenching our fists. If God let this happen,
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Speaker 2: then God wants war, So we're declaring it. So, yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's it's not about Charlie. For the first few minutes,
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Speaker 2: it was about Charlie. For the first few hours, it
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Speaker 2: was about Charlie because Charlie was killed by a zombie.
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Speaker 2: But then the rest of the zombies burst out of
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Speaker 2: the monster closet yelling you will be killed by demons.
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Speaker 2: We pulsmed at them, but it was too late.
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Speaker 1: No, John, you are the demons, and then John was
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Speaker 1: a zombie.
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Speaker 2: I'm ending on some levity with a dank meme from
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Speaker 2: ages ago. But seriously, folks, rip and tear and so on,
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Speaker 2: you are in hell.
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Speaker 1: Act like it day hama.
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Speaker 4: Another term for holding people to their own standards even
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Speaker 4: if you don't like their standards is malicious compliance. It
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Speaker 4: is a highly effective tactic and we should not shy
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Speaker 4: away from it. But that's not really what I was
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Speaker 4: going to talk about. One of the things that struck
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Speaker 4: me about this is that in some ways Charlie Kirk
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Speaker 4: is like a Jordan Peterson of America, of the United States,
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Speaker 4: and that he engaged quite a bit with young men
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Speaker 4: on university campuses with signs of strength, having strengthened his
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Speaker 4: convictions and having confidence in his convictions, and still being
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Speaker 4: willing to listen to the other side, to debate, having
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Speaker 4: the maturity to consider other people's ideas, and then explain
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Speaker 4: when his conclusion is no, that's wrong, in a manner
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Speaker 4: that was civil and kind and considerate and in very
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Speaker 4: often in caring terms. Not I hate you because you're
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Speaker 4: different or because you're wrong, but I want you to
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Speaker 4: be right because it will be better for you, not
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Speaker 4: even because it would be better for me, but because
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Speaker 4: it would be better for you. Your life will be
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Speaker 4: easier if you're right about this, and if you take
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Speaker 4: the wrong path, that your life will be harder. And
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Speaker 4: I really think that that was why he was targeted.
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Speaker 4: I don't think it was the trans issue as an oh,
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Speaker 4: he's transphobic. I don't think it was he's racist. I
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Speaker 4: think it was he's giving young men a pathway to
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Speaker 4: strength in their own convictions, to rational thinking instead of
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Speaker 4: emotional outbursts, and to creating their own boundaries when it
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Speaker 4: comes to how they're going to progress in life, how
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Speaker 4: they're going to orient themselves, and then how they're going
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Speaker 4: to move forward from where they started to through the
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Speaker 4: direction that they've oriented themselves too. And that terrifies people
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Speaker 4: who exploit instability and lack of boundaries and lack of guidance.
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Speaker 4: It terrifies them that they won't have that generation of
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Speaker 4: young men to manipulate. You can't manipulate people if they
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Speaker 4: know themselves and they know their values, and they know
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Speaker 4: their interests, their goals, their needs, and their impact. You
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Speaker 4: can only manipulate people if you can confuse them and
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Speaker 4: scare them and emotionally cripple them. And that made him
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Speaker 4: the most dangerous man in America, and for that he
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Speaker 4: took a bullet in the neck. And to me, the
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Speaker 4: people that are focusing on whether or not we are
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Speaker 4: being as mean to the people who are celebrating his
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Speaker 4: shooting as they are to us are dramatically missing the point.
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Speaker 4: This was an attack on manhood and masculinity, on men's
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Speaker 4: ability to be themselves in the way that best serves
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Speaker 4: their needs and their interests, including their interest in serving
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Speaker 4: other people, rather than being little cogs in a machine
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Speaker 4: that was created to destroy them. And it really doesn't
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Speaker 4: matter if we're being hypocritical when we hold our opponents
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Speaker 4: to their own rules, it matters whether or not we lose,
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Speaker 4: because if we lose, manhood will never get an opportunity
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Speaker 4: to come back. It'll be gone forever. So be a hypocrite,
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Speaker 4: engage in malicious compliance their rules apply to them, be
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Speaker 4: the instrument of that application. It is one of the
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Speaker 4: only things that we can do to put the kabash
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Speaker 4: to this kind of behavior. And when it comes to
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Speaker 4: how the situation is going to be handled, what's going
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Speaker 4: to happen to the young man who shot him? I
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Speaker 4: understand all the christ for blood. I understand all the
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Speaker 4: Christ for public execution. The rage behind those is fair.
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Speaker 4: I have it myself, but I would ask people to
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Speaker 4: consider if Charlie Kirk had got a chance to speak
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Speaker 4: to that man Peter reached out to him, and if
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Speaker 4: he was to watch what's happening now, I think he
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Speaker 4: would be sad because it's not the way that he
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Speaker 4: dealt with hell hateful people. He wasn't angry and enraged
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Speaker 4: and vengeful. He reached out, he tried to change minds,
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Speaker 4: and he did what he could, and then he moved
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Speaker 4: on if he couldn't. And I think the way that
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Speaker 4: the rest of us can approach that it's a tragedy
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Speaker 4: that the very age of young men that he was
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Speaker 4: trying to save ended up being the person that killed him.
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Speaker 4: And every element of what's going to happen now is
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Speaker 4: just sad, and that's really all that we need to
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Speaker 4: react to. And when you're dealing with the anger at
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Speaker 4: what happened and what's being done, what's being said, honestly,
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Speaker 4: the best way to handle that is to get a
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Speaker 4: grip on it, recognize it, and then focus it as
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Speaker 4: a form of energy and use it to fuel your
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Speaker 4: argument in defense of masculinity, and in defense of masculine
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Speaker 4: signs of strength and maturity and growth, and not in
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Speaker 4: defense of returning to barbaric practices that we've abandoned in
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Speaker 4: the past. And I guess that's all I've got to
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Speaker 4: say about this.
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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Hannah. So obviously Charlie Kirk's not at
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Speaker 1: men's rights activists, Okay, But I guarantee that if I
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Speaker 1: had a chance to talk to him, he would have
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Speaker 1: been open to what I had to say, because I
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Speaker 1: think that his political journey, which I didn't not watch
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Speaker 1: super close, because I wasn't like, I don't know, I
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Speaker 1: just didn't follow him super close. I was a little
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Speaker 1: bit consumed with other things, but I knew, I was
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Speaker 1: aware that he was out there doing stuff, campaigning and such.
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Speaker 1: I saw him on an episode of Tucker Carlson's podcast
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Speaker 1: after Tucker was fired from Fox News and went independent,
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Speaker 1: started doing his own thing, and it was about two
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Speaker 1: and a half hours long, and they spent and probably
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Speaker 1: seventy five percent of it talking about young men. And
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Speaker 1: that was Charlie Kirk's primary concern, and it wasn't in
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Speaker 1: the context of, you know that they have to take
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Speaker 1: responsibility or they have to put down the video games
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Speaker 1: and the weed. It wasn't it wasn't what you would
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Speaker 1: normally conceive of when you think of what a you know,
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Speaker 1: conservative commentator would say. It was real things. It was like, look,
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Speaker 1: young men are they're not getting, you know, the opportunities
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Speaker 1: they're supposed to get. And he didn't he didn't specify
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Speaker 1: white men, but he did say a couple times in
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Speaker 1: particular white men. But it was just across the board
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Speaker 1: men all of their issues. They're not you know, women
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Speaker 1: don't want to marry them, they can't find anybody, they're
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Speaker 1: not getting job opportunities, they can't afford, you know, simple
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Speaker 1: things like like previous generations were able to like home
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Speaker 1: and all of a living wage, et cetera. And that
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Speaker 1: he said that this is going to be a problem
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Speaker 1: if we can't address it, like we have to, like
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Speaker 1: because you know, why would men like try anything if
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Speaker 1: every if everything is again, so he was start I
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Speaker 1: think he was going on that path. I think that
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Speaker 1: if you're if you're approaching anything that involves like wanting
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Speaker 1: to make the world better and you are trying to
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Speaker 1: do so honestly, and you're just like looking for that
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Speaker 1: what's true you're going to land there, You're going to
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Speaker 1: be like, oh, what's going on with men? Like it's
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Speaker 1: going to become because it's it's buried under so many
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Speaker 1: other distractions. You know, we're distracted by economics and trade
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Speaker 1: and immigration and race and sexuality and all of these
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Speaker 1: other things. And like, at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff gets strips away and all
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Speaker 1: that you have left is men and women. Every You know,
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Speaker 1: if everything collapsed tomorrow, there'll be men and there be women,
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Speaker 1: and they had to figure out how to work together.
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Speaker 1: But they can't do that if women have been taught
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Speaker 1: to hate them and men have been taught to fear them,
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Speaker 1: fear fear women. That is right. So he was starting
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Speaker 1: to do that, and I think that it could have
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Speaker 1: gone somewhere, and I'm still I'm still optimistic that whoever
21:02
Speaker 1: picks up the torch will start to go that way,
21:05
Speaker 1: and it's not going to be one person. I think
21:07
Speaker 1: that when he died. No, I'm not gonna say that.
21:11
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you, guys in the audience and
21:13
Speaker 1: those of you who are here, if you refer to
21:16
Speaker 1: what happened to Charlie Kirk, that you refer to it
21:18
Speaker 1: as an assassination every single time, and not he died,
21:22
Speaker 1: because that sounds like he slipped in the bathtub. No,
21:25
Speaker 1: someone went out of their way, They plotted and planned,
21:29
Speaker 1: and they murdered him. Right. I don't care what it
21:32
Speaker 1: was for. It doesn't matter. There's a lot of theories.
21:35
Speaker 1: I don't care about that right now, but that is
21:37
Speaker 1: what happened, okay, And we the language war is really important,
21:42
Speaker 1: like people using the right words to describe what happened
21:44
Speaker 1: matters a lot. So and if we're going to get
21:47
Speaker 1: people to change their mind about things, we have to
21:48
Speaker 1: use the right words. So assassinated. And I'm sorry, I'm
21:52
Speaker 1: a little I'm still really heated about this whole thing
21:55
Speaker 1: because what we do here at HBr involves the same thing.
22:00
Speaker 1: We're going to public places and we're trying to whether
22:03
Speaker 1: that is a public square online or we're going out
22:05
Speaker 1: and talking to people like we're doing today, And it
22:09
Speaker 1: is still what I think is the most like the
22:11
Speaker 1: best way to get the word out is to talk
22:13
Speaker 1: to people. And I knew for the longest time that
22:17
Speaker 1: the people were up against don't want us to talk,
22:20
Speaker 1: like they have done everything they could to silence us.
22:22
Speaker 1: For years and years and years, and censorship is it
22:27
Speaker 1: is basically dress rehearsal for murder, like it is practicing
22:32
Speaker 1: murdering you without actually having to take, you know, take
22:36
Speaker 1: on that like the burden of actually taking a life.
22:39
Speaker 1: But if they can just silence you or pretend like
22:42
Speaker 1: you don't exist, or ridicule you to make you irrelevant,
22:45
Speaker 1: or discredit you or ruin your life, they'll do that.
22:49
Speaker 1: They'll do all of that, and then if none of
22:50
Speaker 1: that works, then you're gone. Right. Charlie Kirk was experiencing
22:53
Speaker 1: censorship early on. He was banned from colleges, like you know,
22:57
Speaker 1: from going there. So he decided, I'm gonna start my organization.
23:01
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it myself. And then he would
23:02
Speaker 1: just go to these public spaces and do these things.
23:05
Speaker 1: And he built his whole turning Point thing from the
23:08
Speaker 1: ground up because he was getting censored, and that whole
23:11
Speaker 1: time he was being slandered just like we are. Just
23:14
Speaker 1: like anybody these people oppose, they get slandered and they
23:17
Speaker 1: get lied about, and they gaslight their you know, their
23:21
Speaker 1: followers into thinking that we are the worst possible humans imaginable.
23:26
Speaker 1: So to put it in the context, because we're talking
23:29
Speaker 1: about a you know, right wing American Republican political commentator
23:33
Speaker 1: that was murdered, assassinated. But let's put it in context
23:36
Speaker 1: and look at the history of the Men's movement and
23:39
Speaker 1: what has happened to some people there that had to
23:42
Speaker 1: deal with this kind of resistance. Maybe it didn't get
23:44
Speaker 1: this far, but Aaron Pittsy was driven out of the
23:48
Speaker 1: UK because she dared to say what Oh, it turns
23:52
Speaker 1: out women can also be abusers. That was the only
23:55
Speaker 1: thing she was guilty of was looking at the truth
23:58
Speaker 1: and stating it. They killed her dog and they drove
24:01
Speaker 1: her out of the UK. Okay, Earl Silverman was pushed
24:05
Speaker 1: to suicide. I'm not saying that they made him do that,
24:09
Speaker 1: but he was in a state where there was nothing
24:11
Speaker 1: he can do that. He was just like blocked at
24:14
Speaker 1: every opportunity. He could not make it work because no
24:17
Speaker 1: one wanted to help him, right because he had the
24:20
Speaker 1: bad ideas, I guess, and he ended up taking his
24:22
Speaker 1: own life. He couldn't do it. Mark Angeloucci was assassinated
24:27
Speaker 1: and we still don't know everything there is to know
24:30
Speaker 1: about that. For people who are Gamergate people, Alec Holoka,
24:34
Speaker 1: who was accused of raping Zoe Quinn by Zoe Quinn
24:38
Speaker 1: with no evidence, and his own sister unpersoned him and
24:42
Speaker 1: then he took his own life as well. Donald Trump
24:45
Speaker 1: was almost killed Nick Fuentes. I mean, he's again, he's
24:48
Speaker 1: not an MRA. But but we're looking at people, anyone
24:51
Speaker 1: who was against it. There was a guy at his
24:52
Speaker 1: door with a gun. Like, we're not talking about people
24:58
Speaker 1: that just have a difference of opinion. I mean they do,
25:01
Speaker 1: but it's more than that they think that our opinion
25:04
Speaker 1: should not exist, and if they will take these measures
25:08
Speaker 1: to ensure that nobody gets to hear what we have
25:10
Speaker 1: to say. And it just so happens with Charlie Kirk.
25:13
Speaker 1: They managed to get to someone. And the one of
25:16
Speaker 1: the things they want to get out of that is
25:17
Speaker 1: that it makes everybody shut up because we don't want
25:20
Speaker 1: it to happen to us. And what I've noticed, like
25:22
Speaker 1: you remember Janet Bloomfield, she used to make content all
25:26
Speaker 1: the time, Judgie bitch that was anti feminist content, and
25:30
Speaker 1: she stopped making content because her children were threatened, so
25:35
Speaker 1: she just had to back out. If you guys didn't
25:37
Speaker 1: know that, and that's why you're not I don't know
25:39
Speaker 1: if you'll ever see her again. But plenty of people
25:42
Speaker 1: either quietly left the Internet because things got too hot,
25:46
Speaker 1: or they were driven out, or they were killed themselves.
25:50
Speaker 1: So we're not dealing with people who actually want to
25:53
Speaker 1: have a dialogue. We're dealing with people that want to
25:55
Speaker 1: destroy us. And if you're feeling that anxiety, you know
25:59
Speaker 1: that's that's where that comes from, because a part of you,
26:02
Speaker 1: in a primal way, knows that you can't reason with
26:06
Speaker 1: these people. That's why I can't do the both sides thing.
26:10
Speaker 1: I just can't do it. And I think that we
26:12
Speaker 1: should be looking for ways to ally ourselves with anyone
26:16
Speaker 1: who isn't these demons, even if we are not politically
26:19
Speaker 1: aligned or whatever. But if they believe in these principles
26:23
Speaker 1: of like having conversations and pursuing truth and free speech,
26:26
Speaker 1: then we should be like, okay, you're with me now,
26:29
Speaker 1: Like we're gonna work together and we can work out
26:31
Speaker 1: our differences later, because right now we're up against a monster,
26:35
Speaker 1: and the monster doesn't care what side you're on. Like
26:38
Speaker 1: this guy was probably it was very moderate and they
26:41
Speaker 1: still thought he has to die. So what are they
26:43
Speaker 1: going to think about you? I mean what, like, seriously,
26:47
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that. I don't know if
26:52
Speaker 1: I got everything out that I wanted to say, But
26:54
Speaker 1: the time for compromise with these people is done. You'll
27:00
Speaker 1: know based on how they reacted to what happened, so
27:04
Speaker 1: like if they treat it lightly, if they laugh at it,
27:07
Speaker 1: if they celebrate it, or even if they do this
27:08
Speaker 1: whole thing of well, I didn't like the guy, but
27:11
Speaker 1: don't know. Shut up, Like you can't murder people and
27:15
Speaker 1: then try to find a way as well, but your
27:17
Speaker 1: murdering is always wrong. No, you were calling us Nazis
27:19
Speaker 1: for ten years, and now that something has actually happened,
27:23
Speaker 1: you want to back out and say, look, man, I'm
27:24
Speaker 1: against that. No you're not, because you didn't stick up
27:27
Speaker 1: for us when we were, you know, wondering if we
27:30
Speaker 1: were gonna like be able to you know, do I
27:33
Speaker 1: don't know, do our work? So anyway, does anybody here
27:38
Speaker 1: want to say anything about this? I give you an
27:40
Speaker 1: opportunity to know. All right, okay, well thanks for that.
27:44
Speaker 1: Let me see if I know that there's people in
27:46
Speaker 1: the chat. I got a super chow that I'm going
27:48
Speaker 1: to read out here. So Kinoko's evil twin gave us
27:51
Speaker 1: fifty bucks. Unfortunately I can't display it for you guys.
27:53
Speaker 1: And he says the assassination of Charlie Kirk is one
27:56
Speaker 1: hundred percent in line with the Democrat policy to just
28:00
Speaker 1: destroy the nuclear family. Divorce is the usual method of
28:03
Speaker 1: eliminating fathers from families. On this occasion, a bullet was
28:06
Speaker 1: used instead. Charlie just wanted to build bridges. The takeaway
28:11
Speaker 1: lesson from his murder is that not only can you
28:14
Speaker 1: not build bridges with evil psychopaths, you cannot build civilization
28:18
Speaker 1: itself either. There is no middle ground for compromise with
28:21
Speaker 1: evil that will see you dead merely just because of
28:24
Speaker 1: the words that you say, the ice blow beckons for
28:27
Speaker 1: the hazardous hominid bio waste that we must discard. The
28:30
Speaker 1: other thing too, is that, just as an aside, for
28:33
Speaker 1: those guys who are watching in the live chat and
28:35
Speaker 1: you guys that are here, I want you to go on, Well,
28:37
Speaker 1: if you've been on x slash, Twitter or any parts
28:40
Speaker 1: of social media and you've seen like the clips of
28:42
Speaker 1: people celebrating how many of them are women, That's all
28:46
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say about that. Like, what is what do
28:49
Speaker 1: you think the ratio of women to men is on
28:52
Speaker 1: the people doing this and yeah, that's that's all. That's
28:55
Speaker 1: all I'll say about that. So we're gonna move on
28:57
Speaker 1: to the next story. Let us know what you guys
28:58
Speaker 1: think about this. One of the comments that look forward
29:00
Speaker 1: to your thoughts. So all right, let me see here,
29:04
Speaker 1: did I do that? Right? Yeah? So all right, so
29:08
Speaker 1: this guy is I gett to get my write up
29:11
Speaker 1: out here, Greg something Graham Linan. I can't say it,
29:16
Speaker 1: Greg linham Linim Graham Graham Graham linehem, Uh, why don't
29:24
Speaker 1: I have this up?
29:25
Speaker 3: Oh?
29:26
Speaker 1: It might it might be buried in my history. Well, okay,
29:29
Speaker 1: let's try to like sum it up, because you guys
29:31
Speaker 1: know what happened to him, right, Mike, do you remember
29:35
Speaker 1: what he said? It was? It was a series.
29:38
Speaker 2: It was a series of transphobic tweets, and one of
29:41
Speaker 2: them was, hey, ladies, if if men come into your bathroom,
29:45
Speaker 2: you should something something punch them in the balls. That's right,
29:49
Speaker 2: it's something like that. That's probably because it's incitement to
29:52
Speaker 2: violence against people that you're absolutely not allowed to incite
29:54
Speaker 2: violence against. And he said this in a tweet while
29:57
Speaker 2: he was in the USA, and he's an iri citizen.
30:01
Speaker 2: But then he went through he Throw airport in London
30:03
Speaker 2: and the British police arrested him five of them at gunpoint.
30:08
Speaker 2: In case you Americans thought you were safe tweeting in
30:11
Speaker 2: your own country. If you if you annoy the British police,
30:14
Speaker 2: then you ever want to come to Britain. Well not
30:19
Speaker 2: a good advert for a beloved country.
30:21
Speaker 3: Is it.
30:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was arrested for tweets in the UK.
30:26
Speaker 1: They might have their priorities a little bit mixed up,
30:29
Speaker 1: but I wanted to get because one of it's actually
30:31
Speaker 1: what's funny is that this guy also like stuck up
30:34
Speaker 1: for Charlie Kirk after his assassination, which is weird. I
30:37
Speaker 1: don't know if he's like on the road to being
30:39
Speaker 1: red pilled on some things. But I I if you
30:43
Speaker 1: guys don't know who this guy is, Greg Linham, Graham whatever,
30:48
Speaker 1: Greg Graham, Linham whatever. He made the He was the
30:51
Speaker 1: writer and did he direct it or something show running?
30:54
Speaker 2: No, he just wrote things. He's a bit actor as well.
30:58
Speaker 1: He wrote Tea Crowd and Father Ted right, and I
31:04
Speaker 1: watched a lot of Ice Crawd very funny show. But
31:06
Speaker 1: but yeah, so I don't know. I think you want
31:08
Speaker 1: to say something about in general, or did you just
31:10
Speaker 1: yeah yeah.
31:11
Speaker 2: To some degree, I do feel sorry for Graham. He's
31:14
Speaker 2: being made an example of by this cult of missionry
31:17
Speaker 2: that's determined to erase men from society and history.
31:21
Speaker 1: You'll notice JK.
31:22
Speaker 2: Rowling has never been arrested, despite having the exact same
31:26
Speaker 2: opinions as Graham Lenihan, and having expressed those opinions with
31:30
Speaker 2: just as much vitriol online. And I don't want to
31:34
Speaker 2: reduce this to the label of simply turf, even though
31:37
Speaker 2: the shoe does fit. I think it's important to describe
31:39
Speaker 2: things and not just label them. Some feminists hate every
31:43
Speaker 2: man who doesn't disavow his masculinity. These are commonly called
31:48
Speaker 2: trans inclusive, whereas some feminists hate every man even if
31:53
Speaker 2: he does disavow his masculinity. These are commonly called trans exclusive.
31:59
Speaker 1: Tear.
32:00
Speaker 2: Justice still applies, of course, it's only the turfs who
32:03
Speaker 2: get arrested. But like I said, they never arrested JK.
32:06
Speaker 1: Rowling.
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Speaker 2: It's not just two tier. It's a pyramid with men
32:10
Speaker 2: at the bottom. It's why Graham Lennaho got arrested, because
32:13
Speaker 2: he's the most prominent male turf that the police could identify,
32:17
Speaker 2: at least when it comes to celebrity discourse in the UK.
32:21
Speaker 2: That's why I feel sorry for Graham, because he's the
32:23
Speaker 2: one being hoisted on this petard. But at the same
32:26
Speaker 2: time it is his petard. He doesn't just hate men
32:30
Speaker 2: who transition.
32:32
Speaker 1: He hates men.
32:34
Speaker 2: But to be clear, he doesn't hate himself. He hates
32:36
Speaker 2: all men except himself. He thinks he's, as we were
32:39
Speaker 2: talking about earlier, the one good man, the one good
32:43
Speaker 2: man who has the unique emotional intelligence to prioritize women
32:46
Speaker 2: over men. And he doesn't seem to realize that the
32:48
Speaker 2: men who arrested him at gunpoint suffer from the exact
32:52
Speaker 2: same delusion. To quote Graham himself, men are vicious, men
32:58
Speaker 2: are aggressive. They communicate in an aggressive way, especially when
33:01
Speaker 2: they don't have any basis for any of these beliefs.
33:04
Speaker 2: And then he throws a shocked Pikachu face when other
33:08
Speaker 2: men apply this outlook to him. That's why they apprehended
33:12
Speaker 2: you at the airport, Graham, because they think you're vicious
33:15
Speaker 2: and aggressive, and that you're communicating in an aggressive way
33:17
Speaker 2: because you don't have any basis for these beliefs. But
33:20
Speaker 2: I don't have a basis for these beliefs. They don't agree, Graham.
33:23
Speaker 2: They don't care because you're a man. They just think
33:26
Speaker 2: you're a hateful, criminal thug who wants to hurt people
33:29
Speaker 2: because you're a man. Why would you expect them to
33:31
Speaker 2: snap out of it when you won't snap out of it.
33:35
Speaker 2: You're in the same cult, the same mindless, missandric cult
33:38
Speaker 2: as the police force that is victimizing you. You can
33:41
Speaker 2: leave the UK, you can leave Ireland, you can leave
33:44
Speaker 2: Europe altogether and escape to the sanctity of the USA.
33:48
Speaker 2: But for some reason, you won't leave the cult that
33:51
Speaker 2: is victimizing you. You remain staunchly and unwaveringly devoted to
33:57
Speaker 2: the cult that is victimizing you, the cult that blames
33:59
Speaker 2: men for everything.
34:00
Speaker 1: Under the sun.
34:01
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to tell you this, but that cult is
34:03
Speaker 2: also ravaging its way through the USA, and it will
34:07
Speaker 2: continue to do so as long as you and your
34:09
Speaker 2: ilk are dragging it with you everywhere you go. You're
34:12
Speaker 2: like a Democrat who escapes the tyranny of a blue
34:14
Speaker 2: state only to land in a red state and continue
34:17
Speaker 2: to vote blue. And for that reason, Graham, I can
34:20
Speaker 2: only feel so sorry for you. My sympathy can only
34:23
Speaker 2: go so far. You didn't necessarily bring this on yourself
34:27
Speaker 2: to the extent that you expected. But if you're going
34:30
Speaker 2: to carry on bringing it onto everyone else around you,
34:33
Speaker 2: no matter where you go, then at some point I
34:34
Speaker 2: have to recommend that you go fuck yourself. Your ideological
34:37
Speaker 2: hatred of men is what got you into this mess,
34:40
Speaker 2: but only because you extended that hatred towards the only
34:45
Speaker 2: white men who we are not allowed to hate, the
34:47
Speaker 2: ones who have officially denounced their masculinity.
34:51
Speaker 1: Just stop hating men, Graham.
34:53
Speaker 5: Just stop it.
34:54
Speaker 1: Get some help.
34:55
Speaker 2: You can go somewhere where you won't get arrested for it,
34:57
Speaker 2: but it will continue to blacken your sol wherever you go,
35:01
Speaker 2: and it will tar the destinies of all the other
35:03
Speaker 2: men around you. Women are not the victims of everything.
35:07
Speaker 2: Gay people are not the victims of everything. Men, plain, old, normal,
35:12
Speaker 2: boring men can also be victims. And would you believe
35:15
Speaker 2: me if I told you that the men who feel
35:19
Speaker 2: the insatiable need to denounce their masculinity are themselves victims
35:24
Speaker 2: victims of who feminism?
35:26
Speaker 1: Graham?
35:27
Speaker 2: They are victims of feminism, and you are a feminist.
35:30
Speaker 2: Hence they are victims of you. Just like you are
35:33
Speaker 2: a victim of them. It's a vicious cycle and a
35:35
Speaker 2: hideous state of affairs. And all you have to do,
35:38
Speaker 2: all of you, is stop hating men. But you won't,
35:42
Speaker 2: none of you. You have no incentive to stop hating men,
35:45
Speaker 2: and you can't live without it. So yeah, in conclusion,
35:48
Speaker 2: fuck you all, don't give a shit anymore. Go the
35:51
Speaker 2: fuck away. I don't want you in anyone's toilet. Go
35:54
Speaker 2: sit in a ditch and piss yourself for all O care.
35:56
Speaker 2: Needless to say, I'm not a doctor. None of this
35:58
Speaker 2: is medical advice, so take.
35:59
Speaker 4: A lot of the reason why men who try to
36:04
Speaker 4: navigate feminism end up in this situation is that they
36:07
Speaker 4: don't understand what feminism is. It is the combination of
36:13
Speaker 4: that female victim grift and a deep, undying hatred and
36:20
Speaker 4: fear of masculinity. We always say feminism is hating men.
36:24
Speaker 4: It's masculinity that they hate. They hate the masculine level
36:30
Speaker 4: and style of accountability and how rewarding it is for
36:34
Speaker 4: the people that exhibit it, and how difficult it is
36:38
Speaker 4: to get what those people have without that degree of accountability.
36:42
Speaker 4: So if that was the base, the table, is that hatred,
36:47
Speaker 4: that undying, seething, resentful, angry, rage boiling up toward masculinity.
36:56
Speaker 4: Combined with that female victim narrative, you then have I'm
37:00
Speaker 4: going to these were not put here as a prop
37:02
Speaker 4: but let's say if I can get a hold of
37:04
Speaker 4: them and put them where they can be seen. So
37:06
Speaker 4: you have intersectional feminism, which worked its way through academia
37:12
Speaker 4: and did the long march through the institutions. So you
37:16
Speaker 4: have this in journalism prominently. You have this in business prominently,
37:22
Speaker 4: you have this in education prominently. It's in entertainment media prominently.
37:28
Speaker 4: It is everywhere anything that is part of the mechanisms
37:33
Speaker 4: of exercising social power in the world, intersectional feminism is there.
37:40
Speaker 4: And then you have gender feminism, radical feminism. It's all
37:45
Speaker 4: about masculinity versus femininity. The difference between these two is
37:51
Speaker 4: this side things you can't cure men of their masculinity,
37:54
Speaker 4: and this side things that you can. Because they both
37:57
Speaker 4: treat it like a disease. And when feminism first became
38:02
Speaker 4: prevalent and prominent in the institutions, they were like this right,
38:07
Speaker 4: so men could do this and get away with it.
38:11
Speaker 4: And obviously, as intersectional feminism began to travel and migrate
38:17
Speaker 4: farther and farther this way, which I'm not going to demonstrate.
38:21
Speaker 4: So I don't want to break the glasses, even though
38:22
Speaker 4: that is the name.
38:23
Speaker 6: Of my blog.
38:24
Speaker 4: I don't want to break this type of glasses that
38:26
Speaker 4: refers to this type of glasses. Eventually they're too far
38:29
Speaker 4: apart for a man to straddle, and what happens is
38:33
Speaker 4: he falls into the gap in between, and he gets crushed,
38:37
Speaker 4: or he gets impaled, or he gets broken, And that
38:40
Speaker 4: is what happened here. He fell into the gap in
38:43
Speaker 4: between intersectional feminism, which embraces all of the gender mafia
38:50
Speaker 4: communists takeover of gay rights issues and all of the
38:55
Speaker 4: surrounding issues about sexuality and identity, and feminism that thinks
39:01
Speaker 4: masculinity is such a terrible disease that it cannot be
39:03
Speaker 4: cured by any means. And as long as people do
39:10
Speaker 4: not recognize those two separate branches and how much farther
39:16
Speaker 4: and farther apart they're becoming. And from my perspective, radical
39:19
Speaker 4: feminism is right wing feminism and intersectional feminism is left
39:23
Speaker 4: wing feminism, and it's part of the reason why when
39:28
Speaker 4: tradwives sound like feminists, they usually sound like radical feminists,
39:32
Speaker 4: they don't usually sound like intersectional feminists. But as long
39:36
Speaker 4: as men think that they can navigate, they can't, They're
39:40
Speaker 4: going to get hurt. The other thing that happens between
39:42
Speaker 4: these two, between your radical and your intersectional feminists, is
39:47
Speaker 4: that they have been at war with each other for
39:49
Speaker 4: about fifty years. They hate each other like only women
39:53
Speaker 4: can hate each other. And if you ever grew up
39:55
Speaker 4: around women, if you had a sister, if you had
39:58
Speaker 4: female cousins, if you played with little girl in your
40:00
Speaker 4: neighborhood when you were a little boy, at some point
40:03
Speaker 4: in your life you were probably told if you see
40:05
Speaker 4: two females fighting, you don't get in between them, because
40:07
Speaker 4: you're gonna die. This is the same thing. So if
40:11
Speaker 4: you try to navigate or negotiate between and negotiate the
40:15
Speaker 4: space between and the space where the fight is happening,
40:19
Speaker 4: you will get crushed. So the best thing that you
40:22
Speaker 4: can do is recognize that in the war between feminisms,
40:26
Speaker 4: both sides are wrong, and you're outside of that war.
40:30
Speaker 4: There is no way that you there's no side you
40:32
Speaker 4: can alli with, there's no side that you can trust,
40:34
Speaker 4: there's no side that you can accept a little bit of,
40:38
Speaker 4: and say, well, now that I'm on your side against them,
40:42
Speaker 4: you can see some of my points. Because they won't
40:44
Speaker 4: do that because they hate you, you have masculinity disease
40:48
Speaker 4: and therefore you're the bad guy. Then they will actually
40:51
Speaker 4: a lie with the other side against you, like they
40:54
Speaker 4: did here. So that's essentially what happened to him, and
40:57
Speaker 4: there's no getting around that. There's no way for men
40:59
Speaker 4: to get involved in a feminist issue on the side
41:04
Speaker 4: of feminism without putting themselves in the position that at
41:08
Speaker 4: some point this is going to happen to them.
41:09
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Hannah. Does anybody else want to
41:12
Speaker 1: say anything about grand Lin Holme's situation? I'm sorry, I'm
41:16
Speaker 1: not going to say it right, what is it?
41:20
Speaker 7: No?
41:20
Speaker 1: No, for some reason, I got grand on the mind.
41:23
Speaker 1: I just want to say that it's it's Graham, Yeah,
41:26
Speaker 1: it's uh. Anybody want to say anything else about Lawrence
41:31
Speaker 1: Fox released? I guess so, But I mean, what was
41:34
Speaker 1: he under arrest for.
41:36
Speaker 2: His bail condition? Was his bail condition was he wasn't
41:39
Speaker 2: allowed to tweet? Oh well, I think he got out
41:41
Speaker 2: of that eventually.
41:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll let you go. Just don't tweet anymore. Awesome. Anyway,
41:47
Speaker 1: let us know what you guys think about this one.
41:49
Speaker 1: In the comments. We're gonna grayhand land Lin Holme Irish
41:55
Speaker 1: Irish name. That's what I'm gonna say.
41:58
Speaker 4: But if I ever started a retail business, that's what
42:00
Speaker 4: I'm gonna call it. Grand lind homes.
42:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, Grand lin homes. Nobody can afford houses anymore. Hi, Monique,
42:06
Speaker 1: was up a question? You get up and come over here,
42:11
Speaker 1: Just come up to the table.
42:12
Speaker 3: I'm just really curious because it seems like they are
42:16
Speaker 3: so like like they eat up themselves, right, they eat
42:19
Speaker 3: up their own men that support them? Is there because
42:22
Speaker 3: of social media and more information, I guess more awareness.
42:25
Speaker 3: Do you think that that that there'll be a time
42:27
Speaker 3: when they just they've chewed up too many people and
42:29
Speaker 3: they've thrown a lot of their own people under the bus,
42:31
Speaker 3: especially men that may have some influence. I mean, it
42:34
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like they can keep attacking their own and
42:36
Speaker 3: they are tucking each other the cannibalism, like the in
42:40
Speaker 3: their own in their own squad. What would you think
42:42
Speaker 3: about that?
42:44
Speaker 1: All right? Thanks Monique? Well, I mean, personally, I think
42:47
Speaker 1: that this ideology, it is built on a constant spiral.
42:52
Speaker 1: That's a purity spiral, Right, So as they continue to
42:55
Speaker 1: compress and compress because there's like new things they get
42:58
Speaker 1: upset about somebody fails the vibe check at some point,
43:02
Speaker 1: and then they get yeah, they will exactly. It's an
43:05
Speaker 1: unsustainable project, like they're they're gonna keep like compressing and
43:09
Speaker 1: compressing and shrinking. It's basically gonna, you know, destroy itself.
43:14
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is I think that when we cover
43:16
Speaker 1: these things, I'm trying to, like, for my part, help
43:19
Speaker 1: people see it so they can just avoid that. Like
43:21
Speaker 1: that's what we need is to like avoid these nut jobs,
43:25
Speaker 1: recognize them as nutjobs. Look for the signs, you know,
43:28
Speaker 1: septum piercing danger, hair like you know, crazy opinions, bird hands,
43:33
Speaker 1: Like just look for the signs and then avoid them
43:37
Speaker 1: and then you'll be safe. And but the other thing too,
43:41
Speaker 1: is that like you have to like stop concerning yourself
43:45
Speaker 1: with like whether or not you are I don't know,
43:50
Speaker 1: saying something inappropriate. There There is such a thing as
43:55
Speaker 1: sort of like social norms of like being polite. I'm
43:58
Speaker 1: not saying that we should just run through the hotel
44:01
Speaker 1: with our pants down, but like or just like yell
44:04
Speaker 1: curse words, you know, like just yell gamer words in
44:07
Speaker 1: the hotel. But when you're like online and you're saying something,
44:11
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be constantly either guarding yourself from what you're
44:15
Speaker 1: gonna say or how you normally communicate, and you shouldn't
44:18
Speaker 1: also be worried that other people might think you're a
44:20
Speaker 1: bad person. Right, So, and this is really hard because
44:23
Speaker 1: we've all been conditioned to feel like we have to
44:28
Speaker 1: signal to everyone that we're not bigots. Like being a
44:31
Speaker 1: bigot is the worst thing in the world. It's worse
44:34
Speaker 1: than you know, committing crimes. I mean, there's like that.
44:36
Speaker 1: Literally one of the stories we have is gonna show
44:39
Speaker 1: demonstrate exactly what I'm talking about. One of the stories
44:41
Speaker 1: we have on the show. And what we have to
44:44
Speaker 1: do is we have to be able to have the
44:46
Speaker 1: courage to say I know who I am and you
44:49
Speaker 1: don't get to tell me what that is, right, And
44:52
Speaker 1: I think it's it's the only way that you're gonna
44:55
Speaker 1: that if people do it on a larger scale, it's
44:57
Speaker 1: the only thing that's gonna beat cancel culture too, because
45:00
Speaker 1: cancel culture is built on the same premise where there's
45:03
Speaker 1: a bunch of people saying we've all agreed that you
45:05
Speaker 1: can't be this way, and if somebody steps out of line,
45:08
Speaker 1: then we are going to correct that behavior. Usually it's
45:11
Speaker 1: done through, you know, like getting you in trouble with
45:14
Speaker 1: your school or your boss or whatever. Yeah, or maybe
45:18
Speaker 1: assassination like that might happen. But I'm just that's exactly right,
45:21
Speaker 1: because that is, like I said before, censorship is practicing assassination,
45:26
Speaker 1: and people the ghules online. I love that this word
45:31
Speaker 1: ghoul has just been getting used everywhere since the assassination
45:35
Speaker 1: they have. They've only been able to act this way
45:38
Speaker 1: because their opponents have been dehumanized to such an extent
45:44
Speaker 1: through these threat narratives. Right, this is old. These are
45:47
Speaker 1: old practices, old tactics, and it's been so effective to
45:51
Speaker 1: do it to the point where when you hear someone died,
45:53
Speaker 1: you're relieved. You actually think that, you know, Harry Potter
45:59
Speaker 1: defeated con or whatever whatever the enemy is from the books,
46:02
Speaker 1: right well, like you know, defeated Palpatine. And because we don't,
46:07
Speaker 1: we don't care about those people because they're not human.
46:09
Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons why I noticed. Have
46:11
Speaker 1: you noticed that a lot of these people are often
46:13
Speaker 1: referencing like pop culture things like they'll show you, like,
46:16
Speaker 1: you know, these characters from movies and cartoons and books
46:20
Speaker 1: that they've read that they're already dehumanizing when they do that,
46:24
Speaker 1: because they're not those are not based in reality. Yeah,
46:26
Speaker 1: they're absolute characters. So anyway, somebody's corrected me. I know
46:31
Speaker 1: it's Voldemort. Yeah.
46:32
Speaker 2: They only eat themselves from the top down, and they
46:35
Speaker 2: they grow that base from the bottom up. Something we
46:37
Speaker 2: were talking about last night, how you'd think this movement
46:40
Speaker 2: would destroy itself because feminists and leftists, Uh, they're not.
46:45
Speaker 2: They're not breeding. They hate men, they hate the family unit.
46:47
Speaker 2: They want to they want to destroy the family unit.
46:50
Speaker 2: And even when they do breed, they sterilize their children
46:53
Speaker 2: in the name of trans rising all that. So you think,
46:55
Speaker 2: why wouldn't this movement shrink itself to death very quickly.
46:58
Speaker 2: It's because they're they're in charge of the educate system.
47:00
Speaker 2: They're indoctrinating. They don't need to breed because they get
47:04
Speaker 2: their converts from an early age, even as early as kindergarten.
47:08
Speaker 2: They get kids involved in this, and it works, especially
47:11
Speaker 2: in teenage years, because teenagers are already predisposed to rebel
47:14
Speaker 2: against their parents, and the teachers in the education system
47:18
Speaker 2: from the top to the bottom, are teaching them to
47:20
Speaker 2: be feminist transdegenerates. So there's this endless supply. They can
47:25
Speaker 2: just steal other people's children, and then once they grow up,
47:29
Speaker 2: then they start eating each other. And they're going to
47:31
Speaker 2: keep doing this with every generation until they've killed everyone.
47:34
Speaker 2: The solution is to get them out of the education system,
47:36
Speaker 2: but that's going to be pretty difficult because we need
47:39
Speaker 2: to offer an alternative. While homeschool your kids obviously, if
47:43
Speaker 2: it's even legal to homeschool your kids wherever you live,
47:47
Speaker 2: and yeah, some pushback needs to be made against this
47:50
Speaker 2: long slow march through the institution. We need a long
47:53
Speaker 2: slow match in the other direction through the institutions, and
47:56
Speaker 2: that could take several generations, so good luck.
48:00
Speaker 1: We could start an online college though, like that's an option.
48:03
Speaker 4: But here I'm going to go back to Charlie. This
48:06
Speaker 4: is one of the reasons why he was so dangerous.
48:08
Speaker 4: Feminism had time for a long march through the institutions.
48:13
Speaker 4: We don't, and it's the next generations that are going
48:17
Speaker 4: to be the next set of institutions. And to understand
48:21
Speaker 4: why it's so hard for feminism and all other forms
48:26
Speaker 4: of collectivist, authoritarian, social micromanagement to eat themselves and disappear.
48:34
Speaker 4: You have to understand the incestuous relationship between the establishment
48:39
Speaker 4: and these ideologies, these identity victim identity politics. They use
48:43
Speaker 4: the establishment, and the establishment uses them. Women didn't get
48:47
Speaker 4: the vote because women wanted to vote. Women got the
48:50
Speaker 4: vote because it served the needs of the establishment. Women
48:56
Speaker 4: will give up independence and their own boundary and their
49:01
Speaker 4: famili's boundaries, and their neighbor's boundaries, and their community's boundaries
49:06
Speaker 4: for gibbs and safety and perceived safety where they're not
49:10
Speaker 4: actually safe, but they feel safe. And there's a huge
49:14
Speaker 4: difference between feeling safe and being safe, right. You think
49:19
Speaker 4: about it this way. When you're a little kid and
49:21
Speaker 4: you're in your room in the dark, and you're scared
49:22
Speaker 4: of the dark, and there's a shadow on the wall
49:24
Speaker 4: and it doesn't look nice. It looks like a monster
49:27
Speaker 4: or something scares the crap out of you.
49:29
Speaker 1: But if you.
49:30
Speaker 4: Create an environment where your room is so pitch dark
49:33
Speaker 4: that you can't see any shadows, you might have a
49:37
Speaker 4: burglar in your room that you can't see, and you
49:41
Speaker 4: feel safe because you don't see that scary shadow on
49:43
Speaker 4: your wall, But are you? And that's the difference between
49:46
Speaker 4: feeling safe and being safe. Feminists will give up everything
49:50
Speaker 4: that makes you safe, your ability to defend yourself, your
49:52
Speaker 4: ability to think for yourself, your ability to choose where
49:56
Speaker 4: you're gonna go, what you're gonna do, how you're gonna work,
49:57
Speaker 4: how you're gonna live for authoritarian state that makes them
50:03
Speaker 4: feel protected but can't get to their door for an
50:07
Speaker 4: hour after they call nine one one when somebody's breaking in.
50:10
Speaker 1: With a gun.
50:11
Speaker 4: So, when you have this environment in which the state
50:17
Speaker 4: uses women's tendency to give that up to gain more
50:21
Speaker 4: and more authoritarian power, and then they use that authoritarian
50:26
Speaker 4: power to create systems of an indoctrination and fear mongering
50:31
Speaker 4: to make little girls feel like the most important thing
50:33
Speaker 4: they can do with their vote is give the state
50:35
Speaker 4: more power. You create a self perpetuating machine. It's a
50:40
Speaker 4: Rupe Goldberg device for growing more authoritarian feminism. And so
50:45
Speaker 4: no matter what, no matter how many men they break,
50:47
Speaker 4: no matter how many men they kill, no matter how
50:50
Speaker 4: many women get pissed off and leave, no matter how
50:53
Speaker 4: many men get pissed off and say tell it to
50:55
Speaker 4: the bear, there will always be more feminism, there will
50:59
Speaker 4: always be more guyness centrism, there will always be more
51:02
Speaker 4: state power. And the only care for this is a slow,
51:08
Speaker 4: short rush through the institutions. The younger generations need to
51:13
Speaker 4: take over. The young men of the younger generations need
51:17
Speaker 4: to start running for local office and then state office
51:20
Speaker 4: and then federal office in short order and setting things right.
51:25
Speaker 4: That's the only way to do this.
51:27
Speaker 1: Hi, prim you're fine, Well, I gotta lose the next story.
51:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I got it. That was basically all I
51:36
Speaker 4: wanted to say is men need to start getting involved
51:39
Speaker 4: in civics because if not, women are going to destroy
51:42
Speaker 4: the world.
51:42
Speaker 1: All right, Well, with that said, let me know what
51:45
Speaker 1: you guys think about this one in the comments. We're
51:47
Speaker 1: gonna move on to the next way. You have two
51:48
Speaker 1: more to get through, and I don't know if there's
51:50
Speaker 1: a time of it, but okay, this week in Zoomer,
51:55
Speaker 1: women are cooked. We're gonna be looking at a study
51:58
Speaker 1: that was recently least here. You're not gonna be able
52:02
Speaker 1: to see it because it's where our little picture is
52:05
Speaker 1: kind of covering. I'm gonna move this down so you
52:07
Speaker 1: guys can see this because I think this is striking
52:10
Speaker 1: but not surprising. This was shared by Steve co Kornaki
52:18
Speaker 1: on x or Steve Yeah, Steve KORNACKI, I am pronouncing
52:21
Speaker 1: that right. This is not me trying to say grave
52:24
Speaker 1: Lin Bucket or whatever his name is. Dated September Stember eighth,
52:27
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and there was an NBC News Decision
52:30
Speaker 1: Desk poll focused on gen Z men and women aged
52:36
Speaker 1: eighteen eighteen through twenty nine and their personal definitions of success,
52:41
Speaker 1: segmented by gender and political affiliation based on the most
52:46
Speaker 1: recent twenty twenty four election in the United States, although
52:50
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these data
52:53
Speaker 1: would reflect in zoomer men and women in other parts
52:56
Speaker 1: of the world as well. And so they basically show
53:00
Speaker 1: what are the highest priorities that men and women have zoomers.
53:04
Speaker 1: And these are people that are getting into the thirties now,
53:06
Speaker 1: just so they're not kids, okay. These people are at
53:10
Speaker 1: the point now where they're thinking about the future and
53:13
Speaker 1: what they want out of their life. And you only
53:15
Speaker 1: get one. So this is important to think about. And
53:19
Speaker 1: if you look here men who voted for Trump, so
53:21
Speaker 1: you could say right wing men, they're top three. Let's
53:24
Speaker 1: just look at the top four, okay, or top five.
53:26
Speaker 1: So thirty four percent having children, thirty three percent financial independence,
53:32
Speaker 1: thirty percent fulfilling job or career, twenty nine percent being married,
53:38
Speaker 1: and twenty eight percent having money to do the things
53:41
Speaker 1: you want. So they're you look at For the men,
53:45
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna like explain why this is why this
53:48
Speaker 1: is interesting but not surprising to me anyway. So men
53:52
Speaker 1: want primarily a family, and they want to be married,
53:55
Speaker 1: and the job part financial independence, fulfilling job. Those only
53:59
Speaker 1: exist on that list in that order because it supports
54:02
Speaker 1: the other two things, because a man inherently knows that
54:06
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have a job that, you know, if
54:08
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a job and financial independence, he's not
54:10
Speaker 1: getting married, and therefore he's not having kids, which is
54:13
Speaker 1: why kids are at the very top. And then after
54:16
Speaker 1: all that, he says, well, it'd be nice if I
54:19
Speaker 1: could have money to do the things I want after
54:21
Speaker 1: everything else. So I'm just looking at the top five.
54:23
Speaker 1: I mean, the rest could fall in line, and I
54:26
Speaker 1: think they seem pretty reasonable. Then we look at left
54:30
Speaker 1: wing women women who voted for Harris number one, fulfilling job,
54:34
Speaker 1: career number two having money to do the things you want.
54:37
Speaker 1: Number three having emotional stability. That's not even on the
54:41
Speaker 1: list for the men for some reason. Oh it's at
54:43
Speaker 1: the bottom. Yeah, number four using talents and resources to
54:49
Speaker 1: help others, and number five financial independence. So this shows that,
54:56
Speaker 1: at least to me, I mean, this says something pretty obvious,
54:58
Speaker 1: but men and women men of this generation are at
55:03
Speaker 1: completely paradoxical priorities, like their purposes are different. Now, there
55:08
Speaker 1: is also studies that show what men for Harris, like
55:12
Speaker 1: left wing men and right wing women want. But right
55:15
Speaker 1: wing women are not the same as the right wing men.
55:17
Speaker 1: They still are putting their jobs and everything else up
55:20
Speaker 1: higher on the list. So this isn't this isn't really
55:24
Speaker 1: a left right thing. But this is just what the
55:26
Speaker 1: study shows, right. So we're looking at a situation where
55:31
Speaker 1: the thing that men want the most women don't want
55:34
Speaker 1: to give them. And this is going to be a
55:37
Speaker 1: big problem because men are looking for women that want
55:40
Speaker 1: the same thing, right. And I don't know if Zumer
55:44
Speaker 1: women are already saying, like where all the good men
55:46
Speaker 1: I think they are. I think they're making videos from
55:49
Speaker 1: their cars, you know, with their septum rings. But yeah,
55:52
Speaker 1: this is something that I thought was pretty shocking. Not really,
55:55
Speaker 1: but it might be shocking to the people watching. So
56:00
Speaker 1: the original post, I did want to make sure that
56:03
Speaker 1: the sources were real or like what was involved. There
56:07
Speaker 1: were The study was big, thirty thousand, two hundred adults,
56:12
Speaker 1: so that's not a small poll, so that's worth looking at.
56:16
Speaker 1: And that was like the main thing I want to say.
56:18
Speaker 1: So what do you guys think about this? And again,
56:21
Speaker 1: if you guys want to say something, that's cool, But
56:23
Speaker 1: first I'm going to give it hold on. First, I
56:24
Speaker 1: want to give it to Mike Orhanna to say something. So,
56:27
Speaker 1: do do you have something for this?
56:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are things I don't trust about this survey,
56:31
Speaker 2: mostly because some of these options are loaded terms that
56:35
Speaker 2: in themselves imply success. Nosis is not just having a job.
56:40
Speaker 2: It's having a fulfilling job slash career. The fact that
56:43
Speaker 2: it's fulfilling necessarily means it's successful, so it would be
56:47
Speaker 2: in your definition of success. It doesn't say having fulfilling
56:51
Speaker 2: children is just having children. I mean, you could have children,
56:54
Speaker 2: but you could inadvertently do a bad job of raising them.
56:56
Speaker 2: They could go on to become psychos who hate.
56:58
Speaker 1: You and everyone around them.
57:00
Speaker 2: Similarly, with regards to marriage, you'll notice it just says
57:03
Speaker 2: being married, not having a long and happy marriage. Being
57:08
Speaker 2: married does not necessarily mean success or even lead to it.
57:12
Speaker 2: Far from it, given how many of them end in
57:14
Speaker 2: divorce these days. How the hell so many men prioritize
57:18
Speaker 2: that if anything speaks to how short sighted men are,
57:21
Speaker 2: or at least how naive they can be about how
57:24
Speaker 2: the family courts work. What's also quite telling is that
57:28
Speaker 2: men's lowest priority is having emotional stability. I think that's
57:32
Speaker 2: probably because men don't worry about that sort of thing,
57:35
Speaker 2: because they generally are emotionally stable, probably because they're blissfully
57:38
Speaker 2: unaware of how much women hate them and will readily
57:42
Speaker 2: ruin their lives. Whereas for women, emotional stability is their
57:45
Speaker 2: third priority because they don't have it, and to them
57:49
Speaker 2: it's like gold dust, it's like winning the lottery. They've
57:52
Speaker 2: never known emotional stability because they've been taught to be
57:55
Speaker 2: constantly terrified about men raping them or stabbing them on
57:59
Speaker 2: a bus or something, which is another story we might
58:02
Speaker 2: get around too soon. It reminds me of that historical
58:05
Speaker 2: exchange between an Englishman and a Frenchman. The Englishman says,
58:08
Speaker 2: you French fight for money, us English fight for honor,
58:12
Speaker 2: and the Frenchman responds, yes, we fight for that which
58:15
Speaker 2: we lack the most sick burned Frenchmen, I will give
58:18
Speaker 2: you that. Like these aren't necessarily the things that men
58:21
Speaker 2: and women aspire to as a field of excellence. They're
58:23
Speaker 2: the things they're most worried about never being able to achieve.
58:27
Speaker 2: It's extremely easy for women to have children and retain
58:30
Speaker 2: custody of them, where it is extremely difficult for men,
58:33
Speaker 2: whereas using talents and resources to help others is a
58:37
Speaker 2: low priority for men because they're basically already obliged to
58:41
Speaker 2: do that. I'm already doing that. It's my job to
58:44
Speaker 2: do that. For at any point I stopped doing that,
58:46
Speaker 2: I won't be able to achieve any of the other
58:48
Speaker 2: things on this list, whereas women are more concerned with
58:51
Speaker 2: having money to do the things you want. I mean,
58:55
Speaker 2: do I even need to explain that women don't aspire
58:58
Speaker 2: to provide, they aspire to deserve. This is where we
59:02
Speaker 2: make the obligatory recommendation of home math slacest video. I
59:05
Speaker 2: think it's called which which they'll never get from the state.
59:09
Speaker 2: But yeah, this survey really isn't telling us what it
59:12
Speaker 2: looks like. It's telling us, in my opinion, like so
59:14
Speaker 2: many of these questionnaires, it's not really diving deep into
59:16
Speaker 2: people's psyche is it's just scratching the surface of what
59:19
Speaker 2: people think they should be saying, which is at all
59:22
Speaker 2: times tempered by what people have been taught to think
59:26
Speaker 2: by a corrupt system of shallow gender studies slop wherein
59:30
Speaker 2: men give everything and women receive everything. I wouldn't take
59:33
Speaker 2: it too seriously if I were you, especially given that
59:36
Speaker 2: it was conducted by NBC. I mean, we really expecting
59:39
Speaker 2: such shysters to be asking the right questions, that alone,
59:43
Speaker 2: collating the right answers in short, opinion discarded fuck bitches
59:49
Speaker 2: get money, and so on and so forth. The prophet
59:51
Speaker 2: has spoken, I'm not a real prophet. None of this
59:54
Speaker 2: is sooth saying advice.
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Speaker 4: I think one of the first things that struck me
59:57
Speaker 4: is the difference between how men and women look at
1:00:01
Speaker 4: work and money. You're looking at the causes of the
1:00:04
Speaker 4: wage gap right there, where women put having a fulfilling
1:00:10
Speaker 4: job or career and having money to do things they
1:00:14
Speaker 4: want well above financial independence. If you don't want financial independence,
1:00:20
Speaker 4: as much as you want to have money to do
1:00:23
Speaker 4: things that you want, that means that you're willing to
1:00:26
Speaker 4: use other people's money to do things you want. And
1:00:30
Speaker 4: if you don't want to have money to do things
1:00:33
Speaker 4: you want as much as you want a fulfilling job
1:00:37
Speaker 4: or career, that means you're willing to take a job
1:00:40
Speaker 4: that you like instead of a job that pays you well,
1:00:44
Speaker 4: and then rely on other people's money to supplement your lifestyle,
1:00:49
Speaker 4: which is pretty much feminine economics and a nutshell that
1:00:54
Speaker 4: is to be fair home math. My money and his
1:00:58
Speaker 4: money are my mind. His money is our money, or
1:01:03
Speaker 4: maybe even just my money, and that's the way that
1:01:06
Speaker 4: women live. And then the result of that is that
1:01:09
Speaker 4: women go through life financially unprepared, and they expect men
1:01:14
Speaker 4: to work harder and longer and uglier, more dangerously, more
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Speaker 4: painful to make up for it, and being married and
1:01:25
Speaker 4: having children at the bottom of the list, being able
1:01:28
Speaker 4: to retire early at the bottom of the list, Well,
1:01:30
Speaker 4: a lot of women don't retire because they don't get jobs.
1:01:34
Speaker 4: They stay home, So you don't retire from that. Your
1:01:37
Speaker 4: kids grow up and they move out, and you're an
1:01:39
Speaker 4: empty nester. So why would they care about that, And
1:01:42
Speaker 4: they don't care about him retiring early because they want
1:01:44
Speaker 4: that money to do things they want, but they don't
1:01:46
Speaker 4: want financial independence as much, so therefore he can't retire
1:01:51
Speaker 4: early either. This is why we have such a high
1:01:53
Speaker 4: divorce rate in the United States. It's why we have
1:01:56
Speaker 4: such a rate, such a high rate of credit card debt.
1:02:00
Speaker 4: If you look at men's debt habits, it's usually for
1:02:04
Speaker 4: things like I have to have a car that's reliable
1:02:07
Speaker 4: to get to work. I'm gonna go into debt to
1:02:08
Speaker 4: have this car and I'll pay for it. I'm gonna
1:02:11
Speaker 4: get a mortgage to house my family. I'm going to
1:02:14
Speaker 4: take out a business loan to start this company. Women,
1:02:17
Speaker 4: it's I'm gonna buy new shoes and a set of
1:02:18
Speaker 4: curtains that don't fit the windows in my house, and
1:02:21
Speaker 4: so that that debt doesn't get paid off always and
1:02:24
Speaker 4: it wrecks their credit and then they rely on men more.
1:02:26
Speaker 4: It's it's also why we really need to go back
1:02:31
Speaker 4: to a dowry system, even in the West. I worked
1:02:37
Speaker 4: for ten years before I got married, and if my
1:02:41
Speaker 4: parents had been of a wise mindset with regard to
1:02:45
Speaker 4: my responsibility toward my husband and my future family. They
1:02:50
Speaker 4: would have ordered me because for part of that time
1:02:54
Speaker 4: I was underage to sock that away somewhere instead of
1:02:57
Speaker 4: spending it on movies and shoes and dresses and snacks
1:03:00
Speaker 4: and crap books. A lot of it went to books.
1:03:03
Speaker 4: Most of it went to books. But you know, I
1:03:05
Speaker 4: would have had a nest egg. We would have been
1:03:08
Speaker 4: able to put a down payment on a house. Life
1:03:10
Speaker 4: would have been a hell of a lot easier. And
1:03:12
Speaker 4: since girls don't usually pay for dates, since girls don't
1:03:16
Speaker 4: usually have to be the one financially supporting the relationship,
1:03:19
Speaker 4: and a lot of them do plan on becoming stay
1:03:23
Speaker 4: at home moms that don't have a job and don't
1:03:26
Speaker 4: bring home any of the bacon, they just cook it.
1:03:28
Speaker 4: The wise thing is if you use the intern between
1:03:31
Speaker 4: you start when you start working and when you tie
1:03:33
Speaker 4: the knot to put away a savings and contribute to
1:03:37
Speaker 4: the start of your family's financial stability as a woman,
1:03:41
Speaker 4: you are building something that will serve your family for
1:03:45
Speaker 4: the rest of your life, and then you won't have
1:03:48
Speaker 4: so much of a worry about financial stability, having money
1:03:52
Speaker 4: to do things you want, And whether or not financial
1:03:55
Speaker 4: independence is related to that because you've created a foundation
1:03:59
Speaker 4: on which what you're asking your man to do will
1:04:03
Speaker 4: be more stable, and you'll be taking some of the
1:04:05
Speaker 4: burden off of him, and you might get to keep
1:04:07
Speaker 4: him longer, and which you know, if you're getting married,
1:04:10
Speaker 4: that means you really like him, you want him around.
1:04:13
Speaker 4: That's a good thing. But we don't tell women that.
1:04:15
Speaker 4: And when we bring it up, like you say that
1:04:17
Speaker 4: on X, you get flooded with women accusing you of misogyny.
1:04:21
Speaker 4: How dare you suggest women should have to pay to
1:04:23
Speaker 4: get married? That's not the suggestion.
1:04:26
Speaker 1: Maybe women should have to pay to.
1:04:28
Speaker 4: Get married, But the suggestion is maybe women make their
1:04:31
Speaker 4: contribution in bulk at the beginning so that they can
1:04:34
Speaker 4: do the other things they want to do.
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Speaker 1: Without being a deadbeat.
1:04:37
Speaker 4: And you know, yes, I have called myself a dead
1:04:41
Speaker 4: beat right here now, I am judging a woman, this one,
1:04:44
Speaker 4: this one fucked up her family's beginning and paid for
1:04:49
Speaker 4: it with years and years of having two and three
1:04:53
Speaker 4: jobs trying to make up for it. I had a
1:04:55
Speaker 4: baby out of wedlock. Wedlock was coming, but putting the
1:05:00
Speaker 4: cart before the horse is not healthy for anybody involved.
1:05:05
Speaker 4: It made things harder for me, made things harder for
1:05:07
Speaker 4: my husband. It made things harder for my children. So
1:05:10
Speaker 4: when I talk about this, I'm talking about it from
1:05:13
Speaker 4: a place of regret. I wish I had done better
1:05:16
Speaker 4: by everyone I love, because if I had, there'd been
1:05:22
Speaker 4: a lot of things that happened over the last twenty five,
1:05:26
Speaker 4: twenty six, twenty seven years. I'm getting old the last
1:05:28
Speaker 4: twenty seven years that I wouldn't have cried over that
1:05:32
Speaker 4: they wouldn't have happened. And I've had a lot of
1:05:34
Speaker 4: sweat and tears as a result of that. And that's
1:05:38
Speaker 4: not as bad as the sweat and tears that I
1:05:40
Speaker 4: saw my husband go through. I'd rather have had double
1:05:44
Speaker 4: and spared him that. And I don't want other women
1:05:48
Speaker 4: to go through that. I don't want other husbands to
1:05:50
Speaker 4: go through that. I don't want other people's kids to
1:05:52
Speaker 4: go through that. So when I talk about this, I'm
1:05:54
Speaker 4: telling you because I want people to have an easier life.
1:05:59
Speaker 1: And that's a.
1:06:00
Speaker 4: Pathway to an easier life. And this difference in goals,
1:06:05
Speaker 4: it may be pathological, it may not be pathological, but
1:06:08
Speaker 4: it exists, it's real, it's there, and it guides how
1:06:11
Speaker 4: people live their lives. And one of the best ways
1:06:14
Speaker 4: to handle knowing that information is to approach it in
1:06:19
Speaker 4: terms of what can we do to mitigate the consequences,
1:06:23
Speaker 4: and a dowry system encouraging young women to sock away
1:06:27
Speaker 4: savings while they're working before they get married is one
1:06:31
Speaker 4: method that would be highly effective.
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Speaker 1: Let's go dowry. Let's bring it back. Okay, take the
1:06:36
Speaker 1: gold pill. Guys, all right, I got a before I
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Speaker 1: move on to the next story, I got a super
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Speaker 1: us move on to the last story. This one I
1:07:29
Speaker 1: think ties in with the others. I'm sorry, I was
1:07:32
Speaker 1: asking the audience that they wanted to say anything. So
1:07:35
Speaker 1: we're gonna yeah, let's take a statement.
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Speaker 8: Here you go, Yeah, if you exactly cargo, if you
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Speaker 8: can't just be French is cargo? Can you put? But
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Speaker 8: because the data the number, what about yeah, because there's
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Speaker 8: a little That's the first thing that I noticed. Actually
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Speaker 8: women who voted for arrists having to do things they
1:08:01
Speaker 8: want almost alf financial independence, third, no doubt a fifth.
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Speaker 8: So howould they get the money to do what they want?
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Speaker 8: It's someone else money being married one in twenty so
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Speaker 8: eether it's a given or they get someone else's money
1:08:22
Speaker 8: without being without being married. By fourth, by state, I
1:08:27
Speaker 8: think that's just how we should look. It's facism everything
1:08:31
Speaker 8: through the state by the state, nothing out of the state.
1:08:34
Speaker 8: That's not very constructive. But at least we see the
1:08:38
Speaker 8: red flag.
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Speaker 1: All right, thank you? Yeah? Did you want to see
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Speaker 1: you go ahead? Thank you?
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Speaker 6: Okay, So this has been doing around this table that
1:08:46
Speaker 6: we're all seeing, obviously, but a lot of people have
1:08:48
Speaker 6: not quite been understanding it because they've it's been taking
1:08:51
Speaker 6: a little out of context. But what NBC did was
1:08:53
Speaker 6: they handed all of these people this complete list of
1:08:56
Speaker 6: thirteen things, and then they said, pick the top three
1:09:00
Speaker 6: that are the most important to your personal definition of success.
1:09:03
Speaker 6: And so what this table is showing is that thirty
1:09:05
Speaker 6: four percent of men who voted for Trump put having
1:09:08
Speaker 6: children in their top three, so that was one of
1:09:10
Speaker 6: the most popular And thirty three percent of those men
1:09:13
Speaker 6: said financial independence and so on and so forth. So
1:09:16
Speaker 6: this is a ranking of the people who thought these
1:09:19
Speaker 6: were in the top three. So it's a bit of
1:09:20
Speaker 6: an odd table. Like if someone says being able to
1:09:24
Speaker 6: retire early is not in my top three, well, okay,
1:09:26
Speaker 6: but it might be your fourth most important thing. There
1:09:29
Speaker 6: might be a very narrow definition, a narrow separation between
1:09:32
Speaker 6: that and having children. Even though it's only nine percent,
1:09:35
Speaker 6: So this is not nine percent of men think yeah, yeah,
1:09:39
Speaker 6: it's not the case that only six percent of women
1:09:41
Speaker 6: who voted for Harris think having children is important. It's yes,
1:09:45
Speaker 6: there's a difference in values, but it's not as extreme
1:09:48
Speaker 6: as some people have been led to believe. And it's
1:09:50
Speaker 6: also kind of a weird way to ask the question,
1:09:53
Speaker 6: or maybe to display it. I'm not sure. It's just
1:09:54
Speaker 6: maybe it was calculated to cause a lot of controversy
1:09:57
Speaker 6: and not a lot of communicating very clearly in NBC
1:10:00
Speaker 6: what they were doing and they knew people would misunderstand
1:10:01
Speaker 6: and misinterpret. Or maybe they're just incompetent and other news.
1:10:05
Speaker 6: You do not hate journalists enough, Thank you, Alison.
1:10:08
Speaker 1: You wanted to say something, well, I'll say you gotta
1:10:11
Speaker 1: get up. I don't know, but it reads you here.
1:10:14
Speaker 7: Okay, I just have a logistical question. Do you mind
1:10:16
Speaker 7: if we piggyback the response to adolescents onto that one
1:10:20
Speaker 7: of you guys, well on your stream? Can we hijack
1:10:22
Speaker 7: your stream?
1:10:24
Speaker 3: Yeah?
1:10:24
Speaker 7: Yeah, you could do the like the intermission, then we
1:10:26
Speaker 7: can change it and then to continue.
1:10:29
Speaker 1: So are you asking me to stop the show? No? Okay,
1:10:32
Speaker 1: I have one more story, Yes, go ahead, Yeah, okay.
1:10:35
Speaker 1: The other thing I wanted to say too, though, there's
1:10:36
Speaker 1: one more other thing I thought about as we were
1:10:38
Speaker 1: like talking about this list. I think one of the
1:10:41
Speaker 1: reasons too, to consider why so few women would find
1:10:46
Speaker 1: being married, having children and you know, like those things
1:10:50
Speaker 1: like they would find those to be in their top three,
1:10:52
Speaker 1: probably because maybe they don't think that they have to
1:10:55
Speaker 1: worry about them, like maybe they think that they're gonna
1:10:57
Speaker 1: get married. It's a given. You know, I got men
1:11:00
Speaker 1: waiting in my DMS. I got this, and so it's
1:11:03
Speaker 1: not like something they have to put a lot of
1:11:05
Speaker 1: like mental energy into being worried about because it's probably
1:11:09
Speaker 1: a given. Right. It's delusion. But you know, I'm just saying,
1:11:12
Speaker 1: maybe this is why they're not ranking it that high
1:11:14
Speaker 1: or or the yeah, or they're like living the call
1:11:17
Speaker 1: her Daddy like era of like just doing whatever you want. Yeah.
1:11:21
Speaker 4: So the other aspect of that is that it may
1:11:24
Speaker 4: be that they women answered this on the basis of
1:11:27
Speaker 4: what was what was their top three right now, starting
1:11:30
Speaker 4: with the boomer generation, So all of a sudden, here
1:11:35
Speaker 4: that are Gen xers. We got to hear this. The
1:11:36
Speaker 4: millennials got the same thing shoved down their throats that
1:11:40
Speaker 4: the one of the mantras of the sexual revolution was
1:11:45
Speaker 4: have your fun now and you can settle down later, right,
1:11:49
Speaker 4: And so women feel entitled to party, enjoy themselves, focus
1:11:55
Speaker 4: on everything except the future that they want with a
1:11:58
Speaker 4: family for so many years, and then expect that later
1:12:03
Speaker 4: when they're ready for that to be in their top three,
1:12:07
Speaker 4: they'll have an easy time, making it happen just just
1:12:10
Speaker 4: the same as they would if they had started when
1:12:13
Speaker 4: men start planning for it. And this is this is
1:12:16
Speaker 4: another reason why we need to go back to a
1:12:19
Speaker 4: dowry system, right. I think I've said this on the
1:12:21
Speaker 4: show before too. Love your children before you have them,
1:12:24
Speaker 4: Love your children before you conceive them. Start building their
1:12:28
Speaker 4: circumstances for their childhood and how you're going to raise
1:12:31
Speaker 4: them before you bring children into the world or don't
1:12:35
Speaker 4: have children. And again before anybody's like misologyny, I'm judging myself.
1:12:39
Speaker 7: You know.
1:12:40
Speaker 4: I got one finger pointed out at the women of
1:12:42
Speaker 4: the world and three pointed back at me, because that's
1:12:45
Speaker 4: my big mistake was the child wasn't a mistake, but
1:12:50
Speaker 4: the failure to get ready was huge, huge mistake. And
1:12:55
Speaker 4: that's what connected to it. Being raised in an environment
1:13:01
Speaker 4: where we're told that you can put off preparing, you
1:13:05
Speaker 4: can just wing it. Parenthood is easy. You know, it's
1:13:08
Speaker 4: the hardest job in the world, being a mother, but
1:13:10
Speaker 4: it's so easy that you don't have to think about
1:13:12
Speaker 4: it till after you've conceived the baby. Which one of
1:13:14
Speaker 4: these things has to be true, you know, right, you
1:13:17
Speaker 4: can't make a mistake. You can't be wrong, you can't
1:13:19
Speaker 4: be damage your child. You can't Yeah, yeah, you can't
1:13:23
Speaker 4: do anything wrong, which means you don't have to try
1:13:26
Speaker 4: to do anything right. So why would it be high
1:13:28
Speaker 4: on their priority list when they're still young, Because you
1:13:31
Speaker 4: don't have to think about it until after you're in
1:13:34
Speaker 4: that situation and scrambling. How am I going to feed
1:13:37
Speaker 4: this kid? How am I going to make sure that
1:13:38
Speaker 4: he or she has everything? Am I doing this right?
1:13:42
Speaker 4: Am I saying and teaching the right things? Am I
1:13:45
Speaker 4: demonstrating the right things? What's going to happen when Junior
1:13:49
Speaker 4: hits junior High and since I'm letting him be online unsupervised,
1:13:54
Speaker 4: he finds Mommy's Shoot, what's that stupid site called only Page?
1:14:01
Speaker 4: You know? From ten years ago? And women don't think
1:14:04
Speaker 4: about these things when they're eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty five.
1:14:10
Speaker 4: They don't think about it till they're thirty, and nobody
1:14:13
Speaker 4: wants to date them because their body count is higher
1:14:16
Speaker 4: than their age, and their debt is higher than all
1:14:21
Speaker 4: of the ages of their whole community put together, and
1:14:23
Speaker 4: their degree got them a job at Starbucks.
1:14:26
Speaker 1: That's better. I like that, all right? So yeah, that's things.
1:14:33
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna move on to the next one.
1:14:34
Speaker 1: Let us know, you guys think about this in the
1:14:35
Speaker 1: comments of final chance for anybody to say anything about
1:14:39
Speaker 1: No Alison, you talk too much? Somebody else? Oh the
1:14:42
Speaker 1: Mormon Dating Show. Yeah yeah, all right, okay, anyway, move
1:14:46
Speaker 1: on to the next story. This one should ruffle some feathers.
1:14:50
Speaker 1: This is remember when I was talking before about how
1:14:56
Speaker 1: something something women are like kind of but the idea
1:15:01
Speaker 1: of being a bigot is like so repulsive that would
1:15:03
Speaker 1: just like destroy ourselves to not be called one. So
1:15:06
Speaker 1: one hundred UK women's rights organizations, including Rape Crisis, England
1:15:12
Speaker 1: and Wales, Refuge and South Hall Black Sisters issued open letters.
1:15:18
Speaker 1: Let me put this on the screen so you guys
1:15:19
Speaker 1: can see this. It's just the image issued open letters
1:15:22
Speaker 1: condemning far right efforts to link immigration, particularly asylum seekers,
1:15:27
Speaker 1: with sexual violence against women and girls. They labeled these
1:15:30
Speaker 1: claims racist lies, arguing that they exploit gender based violence
1:15:35
Speaker 1: to fuel anti migrant hate, citing cases like protests and
1:15:39
Speaker 1: epping essex after an asylum seekers alleged assault. The groups
1:15:44
Speaker 1: emphasize that sexual violence is a widespread societal issue, with
1:15:48
Speaker 1: over ninety percent of cases involving known perpetrators, not strangers
1:15:52
Speaker 1: or specific ethnic groups, and that scapegoaing migrants distracts from
1:15:57
Speaker 1: addressing systemic male violence while in danger marginalized women, including refugees. Notice,
1:16:02
Speaker 1: I just want to say this because I know someone
1:16:04
Speaker 1: else is going to bring it up when you get
1:16:06
Speaker 1: into this. They're this situation where you see there are
1:16:11
Speaker 1: male offenders and maybe female ones from foreign you know,
1:16:16
Speaker 1: they're like migrants, they're illegals. Whatever. What feminists do because
1:16:20
Speaker 1: of intersectionality is they pivot to all men instead of
1:16:23
Speaker 1: like saying, well, maybe we could address this issue. And
1:16:26
Speaker 1: this makes it to where that can keep happening without
1:16:30
Speaker 1: them actually having to talk about the issue itself, because
1:16:32
Speaker 1: the last thing they want is to be called racist.
1:16:36
Speaker 1: Far right figures like Nigel Faraj and Robert Jared Jenrick
1:16:40
Speaker 1: sorry Jeneric fuel of the controversy, with Farage claiming Afghan
1:16:44
Speaker 1: males are disproportionately convicted of rape, and genic alleging forty
1:16:48
Speaker 1: percent of London's sexual crimes involve foreign nationals, though these
1:16:52
Speaker 1: claims were criticized for relying on flawed data. A follow
1:16:55
Speaker 1: up letter Women against the Far Right, signed by over
1:16:58
Speaker 1: two hundred prominent figures on September second, twenty twenty five,
1:17:01
Speaker 1: rejected these narratives as divisive and urge focus on real solutions.
1:17:05
Speaker 1: Critics like which are I don't think they have any.
1:17:08
Speaker 1: Critics like Tory MP Alicia Kerns argue that ignoring migrant
1:17:12
Speaker 1: related crimes risks women's safety, but the women's groups stressed
1:17:16
Speaker 1: that such rhetoric perpetuates harmful myths, silences the survivors, and
1:17:20
Speaker 1: undermines justice for all victims. So I'm going to do
1:17:24
Speaker 1: my panels first. So, Mike, do you have anything to
1:17:27
Speaker 1: say about this? I mean, you're from there. I might,
1:17:29
Speaker 1: I might know something theory.
1:17:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think I'd have more to say about this,
1:17:33
Speaker 2: but I've already covered it. Most incidentally, there's a million
1:17:36
Speaker 2: people marching in London. Yes, they are specifically against immigration,
1:17:41
Speaker 2: and that's such a start. But this story is sort
1:17:43
Speaker 2: of an indication that we need another million people marching
1:17:47
Speaker 2: for the cause of our immigration problems. And it's sort
1:17:50
Speaker 2: of outlined there. We gave women the vote, and eventually,
1:17:54
Speaker 2: eventually they started voting not just for their own for
1:17:58
Speaker 2: their own gimmes, but to give means to everyone in
1:18:01
Speaker 2: the world. Except englishmen, and and to place everyone in
1:18:05
Speaker 2: the pyramid above english men. So this time next year, Tommy,
1:18:10
Speaker 2: I know you're not interested in this, but we we
1:18:12
Speaker 2: need a million men much because the immigration problem is
1:18:17
Speaker 2: only a symptom. It's only it's only the leaves of
1:18:22
Speaker 2: the poison ivy. We need to we need to sort
1:18:24
Speaker 2: out the problem of the seeds, which are and always
1:18:27
Speaker 2: have been feminism. Well women, let's just get rid of
1:18:32
Speaker 2: the women. Never mind the vote, shall we just slaughter
1:18:35
Speaker 2: all the l stop we still need them?
1:18:37
Speaker 1: Sort of boy.
1:18:38
Speaker 4: So a large part of this issue is the culture
1:18:40
Speaker 4: clash between women. You have women of one culture that
1:18:45
Speaker 4: consider being entitled to a sexual display to be a virtue,
1:18:50
Speaker 4: being entitled to not only put on a sexual display,
1:18:54
Speaker 4: but expect that nobody will react to it as a
1:18:57
Speaker 4: sexual display unless they want. That's a virtue. Your status
1:19:02
Speaker 4: is higher if you can demand that only the people
1:19:05
Speaker 4: you want notice that you've stuck your tits out and
1:19:07
Speaker 4: it's not very quality. And then the other culture, reserving
1:19:12
Speaker 4: yourself sexually is a virtue, and so women who don't
1:19:16
Speaker 4: do that are scum and therefore anything is fair to
1:19:20
Speaker 4: do to them. And women are the ones that raise
1:19:23
Speaker 4: the boys. So when you have these two cultures shoved
1:19:26
Speaker 4: in together by the elites where they're they're told, you know, here,
1:19:30
Speaker 4: you go, get along. We're not going to provide you
1:19:33
Speaker 4: with any support or guidance or anything like that, you
1:19:36
Speaker 4: have the women of the conservative culture saying, well, those
1:19:39
Speaker 4: women are scum. You can do anything to them that
1:19:41
Speaker 4: you want, and we don't care, and actually we're going
1:19:44
Speaker 4: to get mad if you don't. And you have that
1:19:48
Speaker 4: tendency in both cultures. Men want to please their women,
1:19:51
Speaker 4: and if that means mistreating the women of the other culture,
1:19:54
Speaker 4: then that's on the table. It's not necessarily because they're
1:19:58
Speaker 4: naturally predatory, rapee bastards that just want to run around
1:20:02
Speaker 4: and take advantage of someone. There are other cultural things
1:20:06
Speaker 4: that are influencing this at the same time, women's pathological politeness.
1:20:10
Speaker 4: I could exclude myself from this because I'm not polite.
1:20:15
Speaker 4: I'm too far in the other direction sometimes, right, but
1:20:18
Speaker 4: women will women will offer a burglar that's broken into
1:20:22
Speaker 4: their house a glass of water to make sure he's comfortable,
1:20:24
Speaker 4: because they don't want to seem like a bad hostess, right,
1:20:27
Speaker 4: And they'll especially do that if he's burglarizing their neighbors
1:20:31
Speaker 4: and not them. They're okay, they're safe. You know, by
1:20:34
Speaker 4: the way, don't park there. The cops will take it
1:20:36
Speaker 4: to just you know, want to get out of the
1:20:38
Speaker 4: neighborhood fast park over there. And it's something that results
1:20:42
Speaker 4: in tolerance for any kind of behavior like I just described,
1:20:47
Speaker 4: where their outgroup treats them as an outgroup and mistreats
1:20:52
Speaker 4: their whole group. They allow it, they don't care because
1:20:55
Speaker 4: it's not happening to them directly, and you do get
1:20:58
Speaker 4: a rise in violent crime and conflicts, misunderstandings, lawsuits, cancelations
1:21:04
Speaker 4: on social media sites, and little girls running around with
1:21:07
Speaker 4: axes and knives trying to defend themselves because some chicks
1:21:10
Speaker 4: started to fight with them or their mother or their
1:21:12
Speaker 4: sister and then got her man involved, and then he
1:21:16
Speaker 4: gets into trouble, and the kids get into trouble, and
1:21:19
Speaker 4: the lady that started the whole thing walks away completely
1:21:22
Speaker 4: unscathed because she's female and they can't hold her accountable.
1:21:25
Speaker 4: Then feminists come along and like to say, ninety nine
1:21:28
Speaker 4: percent of rapists are men and this is just a
1:21:31
Speaker 4: man thing, and men do it. But when you look
1:21:33
Speaker 4: at the statistics, right, even if it was true, which
1:21:37
Speaker 4: is not, that ninety nine percent of rapists were men.
1:21:42
Speaker 4: What percentage of men are rapists? So I had gropped
1:21:46
Speaker 4: you a calculation on this a while back. What percent
1:21:49
Speaker 4: of the population, the general adult male population is represented
1:21:54
Speaker 4: by crime statistics? What percent of adult males in the
1:21:58
Speaker 4: just the United States are perpetrators? And it is a
1:22:03
Speaker 4: fraction of one percent. So if ninety nine percent of
1:22:08
Speaker 4: a group, that is a fraction of one percent of
1:22:13
Speaker 4: the overall general adult male population. And I used as
1:22:17
Speaker 4: the age you can be charged as an adult, so
1:22:20
Speaker 4: fifteen and up right, then is that really typical of
1:22:24
Speaker 4: that general population? Or is it that whatever causes human
1:22:30
Speaker 4: beings to go wrong so wrong that they commit violent
1:22:33
Speaker 4: crimes hits men more often than women. And so when
1:22:39
Speaker 4: feminists turn around in try to use that as a
1:22:42
Speaker 4: characterization of men, well, if ninety nine plus percent of
1:22:47
Speaker 4: the people who do do not commit violent crimes are men,
1:22:52
Speaker 4: then why is that not considered a characteristic It's a
1:22:55
Speaker 4: very poignant question, and when you turn it around on them,
1:22:58
Speaker 4: they get mad all around. In this issue, it is
1:23:02
Speaker 4: again an in group, out group, false framing, feminist complaint,
1:23:08
Speaker 4: exploitation of your inability to notice how they're framing things
1:23:14
Speaker 4: kind of an issue. Yes, these things are happening, and
1:23:17
Speaker 4: yes there is a racial component to it. Yes there
1:23:20
Speaker 4: is a cultural component to it. No, it's not characteristic
1:23:24
Speaker 4: of the race or the culture. There are other causes.
1:23:28
Speaker 4: But we can't talk about it until we can acknowledge
1:23:33
Speaker 4: all of the things that are involved in the false
1:23:35
Speaker 4: framing and all of the things that are true. And
1:23:38
Speaker 4: we can't do that as long as we suffer from
1:23:40
Speaker 4: women's pathological politeness.
1:23:42
Speaker 1: All right, who's next? You want to go? All right,
1:23:45
Speaker 1: here we go? Here is the dream.
1:23:48
Speaker 8: I don't know what that means.
1:23:49
Speaker 1: So this is speaking too.
1:23:52
Speaker 8: You will explain that later.
1:23:55
Speaker 1: I think I've seen it.
1:23:57
Speaker 8: I'll have to remember that one resistance guys and.
1:23:59
Speaker 4: They all have these It always comes back injured.
1:24:03
Speaker 1: Well, that coruestion to what I do.
1:24:06
Speaker 8: This is speaking directly to something that is happening in
1:24:08
Speaker 8: Frience with women's group fighting the immigrants. It's nemesis collective.
1:24:14
Speaker 8: And guess what the first opponent, physical opponent is other women.
1:24:20
Speaker 8: So if women in England or in other countries want
1:24:26
Speaker 8: to start fighting against other cultures raping them, you will
1:24:31
Speaker 8: face other women you will face your own kind fighting you.
1:24:35
Speaker 1: That's normal.
1:24:36
Speaker 8: When you wake up, you're surrounded by people who will
1:24:40
Speaker 8: sound asleep and we won't like you waking up from
1:24:44
Speaker 8: their sweet dreams. But you will also find a lot
1:24:48
Speaker 8: of people ready to help you. That's was just for
1:24:51
Speaker 8: saying that everybody else.
1:24:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, okay, Well, of course, the reason why ninety
1:24:57
Speaker 5: nine percent of men are not raped just because feminists
1:25:01
Speaker 5: have been very successful in their campaign off teaching men
1:25:06
Speaker 5: not to rape.
1:25:07
Speaker 4: All right, Alison, so so successful. The effect was retroactive.
1:25:11
Speaker 1: All right, Alison wants to say something again. Oh fix that?
1:25:15
Speaker 3: What do you do?
1:25:16
Speaker 7: That's okay, that's okay.
1:25:18
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is right. Okay, it's good.
1:25:21
Speaker 7: I want to sit down. I feel all right, you're fine, okay,
1:25:27
Speaker 7: just a second is this will take a little bit
1:25:29
Speaker 7: of time. There we go, Okay, sit down please. Now
1:25:32
Speaker 7: we're safe. Now we're safe. I gotta get my thoughts
1:25:36
Speaker 7: back in order. All right, So this is okay. To
1:25:40
Speaker 7: Romerck's point, I think about how many political issues come
1:25:46
Speaker 7: down to two groups of women fighting, just just the
1:25:50
Speaker 7: trans issue, two groups of women fighting, and not just
1:25:53
Speaker 7: even trans women. It's liberal women, liberal feminists versus turfs.
1:25:57
Speaker 7: The immigration issue, two groups of women fight, abortion, two
1:26:01
Speaker 7: groups of women fighting like every most of the I
1:26:05
Speaker 7: can't even think of one issue that isn't two groups
1:26:07
Speaker 7: of women fighting over it, and then both groups of
1:26:10
Speaker 7: women blaming men for the other women's positions. So, for
1:26:14
Speaker 7: use the abortion one, the pro pro abortion people say
1:26:19
Speaker 7: it's conservative men wanting to keep women pregnant and barefoot,
1:26:23
Speaker 7: and they pro pro life women say that it's it's liberal.
1:26:27
Speaker 7: And I've seen mats where they refer to this, that
1:26:30
Speaker 7: it is liberal men who just want to exploit women's
1:26:33
Speaker 7: sexuality without any kind of responsibility. And it's like, no,
1:26:36
Speaker 7: it's you know that this is not a this is
1:26:39
Speaker 7: not a dialogue. That really what we need to do
1:26:41
Speaker 7: is we need to create a gigantic thunderdome, right, and
1:26:45
Speaker 7: we need to dress these women up in like leather
1:26:47
Speaker 7: and studs and say, okay, you guys go in and
1:26:50
Speaker 7: one point of view comes out, and that's the point
1:26:52
Speaker 7: of view that we'll use, right, Sorry, Yeah, yeah, okay,
1:27:00
Speaker 7: I was just thinking of Mad Max and Maiden crossover
1:27:05
Speaker 7: outfits that would be definitely interesting. But yeah, so it's
1:27:08
Speaker 7: like this is and these things never get resolved because
1:27:12
Speaker 7: the women do not seem to have a way of
1:27:14
Speaker 7: debating them and concluding the concept. So they come in,
1:27:18
Speaker 7: they set up these camps. They use men as escapegoats
1:27:22
Speaker 7: and also foot soldiers for each of these political positions,
1:27:26
Speaker 7: and they never get resolved because the women won't come
1:27:29
Speaker 7: together and say, Okay, let us hash this out logically rationally,
1:27:34
Speaker 7: and nobody calls them out on it, says, no, go
1:27:37
Speaker 7: into the thundernomet go hash this out in whatever way
1:27:39
Speaker 7: you need to do it, but find a solution that
1:27:43
Speaker 7: doesn't involve blaming men or expecting men to go kill
1:27:46
Speaker 7: themselves over it, right, And it's like that, and then
1:27:49
Speaker 7: you just see that when you see it, you see
1:27:51
Speaker 7: it all the balkanizes and the two camps and votes
1:27:54
Speaker 7: for women was the same thing too, two camps of
1:27:57
Speaker 7: women thought. Much larger camp was like do it, like
1:28:00
Speaker 7: don't do it, don't do it. And then there was
1:28:02
Speaker 7: a smaller camp there was like do it.
1:28:04
Speaker 8: Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it,
1:28:05
Speaker 8: do it?
1:28:06
Speaker 7: And and then you know the one that was supported
1:28:09
Speaker 7: by the Rockefellers one, yeah, more money, but yeah, so
1:28:12
Speaker 7: it's it's you look back through history. Prohibition everything. It's
1:28:15
Speaker 7: like two camps of women. You go back far enough,
1:28:18
Speaker 7: it's probably tribal conflicts, two groups of women. It's like, ah,
1:28:21
Speaker 7: she stole my goat, and which is really actually sort
1:28:25
Speaker 7: of what the Christian narrative was about, is about, you know,
1:28:29
Speaker 7: don't send your sons to go die over your goat,
1:28:31
Speaker 7: you know that kind of thing, and then suddenly an
1:28:33
Speaker 7: empire or suddenly a stable civilization. But anyway, I'm getting
1:28:37
Speaker 7: into the weeds. But yeah, this is this is sort
1:28:39
Speaker 7: of the same thing, and nobody wants to take responsibility
1:28:41
Speaker 7: for I got into arguments with people and I said,
1:28:45
Speaker 7: I remember it was with Andrew Wilson. We got into
1:28:48
Speaker 7: this huge Twitter spat with Twitter spatting with Andrew Wilson.
1:28:52
Speaker 7: But it was the girl with the axe and the
1:28:55
Speaker 7: machete or whatever. I think it was just an axe,
1:28:58
Speaker 7: an axe and a dagger.
1:28:59
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:29:00
Speaker 7: Now, the full story that I've managed to piece together
1:29:04
Speaker 7: is that they were approached by a man and he
1:29:08
Speaker 7: was harassing them but not doing anything to them, like
1:29:11
Speaker 7: not physically or following it perhaps, and then they confronted
1:29:16
Speaker 7: her him his wife or girlfriend came out and attacked
1:29:20
Speaker 7: one of the girls, and then she defended herself and
1:29:23
Speaker 7: this is this is the end. So this is, this
1:29:25
Speaker 7: has gone from a situation where potentially one woman attacks
1:29:29
Speaker 7: another woman into somehow men are all to blame, and
1:29:34
Speaker 7: specifically British men or Scottish men for not protecting this
1:29:38
Speaker 7: girl from being attacked by another woman, and the woman
1:29:41
Speaker 7: who initiated the violence disappears into the smoke from the
1:29:46
Speaker 7: entire narrative like she's gone right and U and I
1:29:50
Speaker 7: actually pointed out, well, what do you expect these U
1:29:52
Speaker 7: came in to do to Fatima? But what do you
1:29:54
Speaker 7: expect you know, the instance they touched in her there
1:29:58
Speaker 7: to in jail for twenty years on a hate crime,
1:30:00
Speaker 7: you know. And it's like this, this entire problem is
1:30:03
Speaker 7: intractable because again it's two camps of women, each blaming
1:30:07
Speaker 7: men and each what is there? Each blaming men and
1:30:11
Speaker 7: each wanting to use men as their foot soldiers. And
1:30:14
Speaker 7: as a result, there's a bunch of women's organizations in
1:30:18
Speaker 7: the UK who were saying that that British men who
1:30:22
Speaker 7: call out migrant men's sex crimes are themselves sex offenders
1:30:27
Speaker 7: who are trying to hide their own crimes. And it's
1:30:31
Speaker 7: and so you got one side women are saying, your cowards,
1:30:34
Speaker 7: you're allowing these foreign men to rape your daughters. On
1:30:37
Speaker 7: the other side is if you bring this stuff up,
1:30:40
Speaker 7: you are a sex offender who's hiding your own offenses.
1:30:43
Speaker 7: And also if you bring it up, you're going to jail.
1:30:46
Speaker 7: And it's like, well, what are me like?
1:30:47
Speaker 1: What?
1:30:47
Speaker 7: What? How? This is not a functioning society. And it's
1:30:50
Speaker 7: because the women will not first step look across the aisle,
1:30:56
Speaker 7: you know, clear, wipe your glasses, look across the aisle
1:31:01
Speaker 7: and tell me if that's a man or a woman
1:31:04
Speaker 7: on the other side of your argument. And if it's
1:31:07
Speaker 7: a woman, stop blaming men. Right, if it's a woman
1:31:12
Speaker 7: sending the men out and blaming the men of your side,
1:31:15
Speaker 7: stop blaming men. There you go, then we can start
1:31:18
Speaker 7: to get somewhere. And I think this is honestly, and
1:31:22
Speaker 7: I'm not against the Nineteenth Amendments. I have reservations, but
1:31:27
Speaker 7: I can see why many societies said we got to
1:31:31
Speaker 7: keep women out of direct politics. Because he can't keep
1:31:33
Speaker 7: them out of politics. They get in, they're in new politics. Yeah,
1:31:39
Speaker 7: just keep them out directly, because this is what happens balkanization.
1:31:44
Speaker 7: They set up they blame men they send men and
1:31:47
Speaker 7: and the society breaks down into threat narratives. Okay, right, yeah,
1:31:52
Speaker 7: one last thing, one last thing. It's not just migrantmen,
1:31:56
Speaker 7: it's also migrant women. At least twenty five percent of
1:31:58
Speaker 7: the sexual violence is done by migrantmen women twenty five percent,
1:32:02
Speaker 7: and this is a lease, this is the sleep, this
1:32:04
Speaker 7: is the floor. Twenty five is done against British boys.
1:32:07
Speaker 7: Most migrant men are just trying to get by in
1:32:11
Speaker 7: a society that probably makes absolutely no sense to them,
1:32:14
Speaker 7: and they're still just putting their nose to the grindstone
1:32:16
Speaker 7: and doing the work. So I just wanted to point
1:32:19
Speaker 7: those two things out and give it back to you.
1:32:21
Speaker 4: The reason that it's always two groups of women fighting
1:32:24
Speaker 4: with each other by by throwing men as ammunition is
1:32:28
Speaker 4: because they don't think of their own agency. Women will
1:32:31
Speaker 4: vote a warmonger in as the leader of their nation,
1:32:34
Speaker 4: and then they'll be absolutely shocked when a war starts.
1:32:38
Speaker 4: How did this happen? And it's obviously masculinity that caused it.
1:32:42
Speaker 4: Women will marry a guy, or just get pregnant by
1:32:46
Speaker 4: a guy that has no job, has no prospects, you know,
1:32:52
Speaker 4: dresses like a scumbag and treats everyone around him like shit.
1:32:56
Speaker 4: Is it just an absolute dipshit? And they'll be just
1:33:01
Speaker 4: absolutely shocked when he doesn't step up to the plate
1:33:04
Speaker 4: and become a good father and marry them and raise
1:33:07
Speaker 4: the child with them. They don't consider the fact that
1:33:10
Speaker 4: they chose badly. They don't consider the fact that this
1:33:14
Speaker 4: is a consequence of their choices, and they don't consider
1:33:17
Speaker 4: the fact that what the other side is doing has
1:33:21
Speaker 4: consequences that are a result of women's choices. They can't
1:33:24
Speaker 4: blame other women because they would have to accept that
1:33:27
Speaker 4: they're responsible, and as long as society allows that, nobody
1:33:31
Speaker 4: calls them out. No men say, hey, we didn't vote
1:33:34
Speaker 4: in that warmonger. You did because you wanted to be
1:33:37
Speaker 4: able to have abortions, you know, and he promised to
1:33:39
Speaker 4: protect those we didn't marry the dipshit, you know, It takes,
1:33:44
Speaker 4: and it takes two groups of people. It takes men
1:33:46
Speaker 4: refusing to tolerate that, and it takes the few women
1:33:49
Speaker 4: that have woken up and understand that if you make
1:33:53
Speaker 4: a stupid choice, if you play stupid games, you win
1:33:56
Speaker 4: stupid prizes to call out the other women and you
1:34:00
Speaker 4: can be polite about it or you can be like
1:34:02
Speaker 4: me and tell some girl on the internet that the
1:34:06
Speaker 4: reason she's unhappy about her divorce is because you can't
1:34:10
Speaker 4: turn a dipshit into a diamond by polishing his nub
1:34:12
Speaker 4: and get cussed at for three days afterwards for saying it.
1:34:17
Speaker 4: But one way or another, you know, you've got to
1:34:21
Speaker 4: get that into other women's heads or this will never end.
1:34:26
Speaker 4: There's no other cure.
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