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Chuck & Buck 4-15 Hour 2: 12th man news with Gregg Bell, the saga continues and we get Reckless at Breakfast · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: A bunt drop down but shot away off the bag,
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Speaker 1: and Luke Railey a bunt.
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Speaker 2: They sit long overdue. Somebody even say b.
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Speaker 1: O two out towards center field. Harold covering some ground,
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Speaker 1: roseran and tags and he makes his way home and
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Speaker 1: dob Canzone does exactly that. He gets the job done
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Speaker 1: and gets the first run acrossing the ball game one
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Speaker 1: nothing Marion.
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Speaker 2: Oh Aaron, with a snide little comment.
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Speaker 3: Some would stay long overdue.
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Speaker 2: Few young people with your hatred for bunting. Seriously, that's
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Speaker 2: what it is, That's what it stems from. He hates.
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Speaker 2: He hates bunting like you gotta be kidding. You don't great,
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Speaker 2: You don't see that occasionally there it's warranted. Its handy
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Speaker 2: that it would be nice if we still had people.
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Speaker 2: I don't want them to bun as much as they
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Speaker 2: used to, but you don't see how it can come
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Speaker 2: in handy in a pinch, And if you're good at it,
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Speaker 2: if you're good at it, but nobody works at it anymore,
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Speaker 2: nobody's good at it anymore.
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Speaker 4: Luke Rayley did it, but Luke Rayley is good at it,
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Speaker 4: and he uses it effectively and probably should use it
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Speaker 4: more because he's really.
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Speaker 2: Good at laying that down. Anyway, I still think there's
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Speaker 2: a use for it. I'm glad we don't use it
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Speaker 2: nearly as much as we used to, but boy, I
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Speaker 2: love it when Luke lays down a bunch and that
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Speaker 2: should have turned into a bigger inning than it actually was.
1:29
Speaker 2: That's Mariner's TV with the highlights. Last night, four to
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Speaker 2: one loss, Mariners take it on the chin to the
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Speaker 2: San Diego Padres. Had just four hits in the game.
1:38
Speaker 2: Didn't catch a lot of breaks last night. I don't
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Speaker 2: like to use that excuse, but it applies, and so
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Speaker 2: the four game winning streak comes to a close. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: the Padres have won six in a row. Mariners will
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Speaker 2: try to ruin that tonight. It'll be Emerson Hancock going
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Speaker 2: against Randy Vasquez, a matchup of right handers tonight in
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Speaker 2: San Diego. First pitch at six point forty, and it
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Speaker 2: is Jackie Robinson Day throughout Major League Baseball NBA play
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Speaker 2: In is our next stop on our frost brewed cors
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Speaker 2: Light Shoes Chill Headlines tour. This morning. Well, I don't
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Speaker 2: think these games should be played, and I really don't
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Speaker 2: think they should be hard to find as a television viewer.
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Speaker 2: But if you are going to make it that way,
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Speaker 2: at least make the games dramatic, and they were last night,
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Speaker 2: So the NBA got paid off a little bit because
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Speaker 2: both games were entertaining. Portland won over Phoenix by final
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Speaker 2: score of one fourteen to one ten. Now the Suns
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Speaker 2: have to fight for their playoff lives this Friday against
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Speaker 2: tonight's winner Golden State or the Los Angeles Clippers in
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Speaker 2: Los Angeles. Meanwhile, Miami's been eliminated by the Charlotte Hornets,
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Speaker 2: who will face tonight's winner between Orlando and Philadelphia for
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Speaker 2: a playoff spot the final playoffs. Excuse me to excuse
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Speaker 2: me tonight's loser, I should say, in the Orlando Philly
3:01
Speaker 2: game for the final playoff spot. There in the East,
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Speaker 2: Hans Steinbach of Washington has decided to enter the NBA Draft.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure he still has time to pull his name out,
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Speaker 2: but it looks like Danny Sprinkles lost his best player
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Speaker 2: this offseason. He's lost a couple of others to the portal,
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Speaker 2: and now he's lost Steinbach to the NBA Draft. Or
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Speaker 2: so reports suggest. Hockey Tonight crack and playing out the string.
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Speaker 2: They'll take on the Golden Nights at seven o'clock and
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Speaker 2: we are eight days from the NFL Draft. Eight sleeps
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Speaker 2: from the NFL Draft. Greg Bell probably won't catch a
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Speaker 2: wink of sleep between now and next Thursday. Our Seahawks
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Speaker 2: insider joins us now with the Bell tolls.
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Speaker 5: It must be seven o'clock and time for twelfth Man
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Speaker 5: Now with twelk Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
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Speaker 5: and But good morning, Greg.
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Speaker 2: How are we feeling today?
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Speaker 6: We're well, You're alive and well, oh yeah. I filled
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Speaker 6: in for you Friday. I learned way more from Ashley
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Speaker 6: than I wanted to. But the way you were gone.
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Speaker 3: You should have seen the way he showed things off
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Speaker 3: on Monday.
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Speaker 2: I hope you didn't get any visuals.
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Speaker 6: No mental visuals were enough. Well, I've been there, so
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Speaker 6: I know it's no picnics.
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Speaker 2: I didn't mind the experience too much, frankly, and considering
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Speaker 2: all the hubbub that was happening here at the office
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Speaker 2: stuff Friday. It sounds like I was better off getting
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Speaker 2: a colonoscopy than being at work Friday.
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Speaker 6: That's true. As I walked away, I felt like a
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Speaker 6: devilish grin guy that just walked away from a from
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Speaker 6: a fire building. Literally.
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Speaker 2: All right, well, here we are a little over a
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Speaker 2: week from the NFL Draft. Obviously we're going to be
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Speaker 2: bugging you every day next week. Are you ready? Does it?
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Speaker 2: Does it feel like it's time to really dive into
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Speaker 2: this thing? From a Greg Bell standpoint.
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Speaker 6: It does, but it is. It is weird to come
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Speaker 6: off with Super Bowl, especially Super Bowl winning team parades
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Speaker 6: and all of that, and then oh, this draft and
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Speaker 6: most teams had a six week head start on what
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Speaker 6: the Seahawks are doing, and you can feel it even
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Speaker 6: around the building. And then John Schneider admits he's had
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Speaker 6: to play catchup since the Super Bowl and do some
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Speaker 6: weekend studying, and now his scouts and his personnel staff
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Speaker 6: haven't and they've been doing it throughout since the end
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Speaker 6: of last year's draft. So it's not like the Seahawks
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Speaker 6: are ill prepared for this. But the vibe and the oh, now,
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Speaker 6: it's the draft, and it's not normally I liked had
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Speaker 6: in an off season, but when you win a super Bowl,
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Speaker 6: there's other priorities. And then, as we've talked about Chuck,
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Speaker 6: there's only four picks for Seattle right now in this draft,
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Speaker 6: second fewest, and team history of it stays that way.
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Speaker 6: The three picks they had in the COVID Draft twenty
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Speaker 6: twenty one that they punted, and they're almost punting this
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Speaker 6: one we talked about. They made the moves such as
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Speaker 6: trading two third day picks to get Rashid Shiheat in
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Speaker 6: November from the Saints, with the id in mind that
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Speaker 6: this was a weaker, thinner draft than most, especially next years,
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Speaker 6: and right now they have twelve picks in next year's draft.
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Speaker 6: So this was my design. But again, I don't think
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Speaker 6: they're going to end up the weekend next week with
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Speaker 6: just four picks. I think trade down get a couple
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Speaker 6: more picks, as he always does.
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Speaker 2: Do you feel I mean, because I mean, maybe we
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Speaker 2: exaggerated as fans, maybe we read into it too much,
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Speaker 2: Maybe the uh, John and Mike don't see it this way,
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Speaker 2: but it does feel to us without Ken Walker, there's
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Speaker 2: a running back need for this team it feels like
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Speaker 2: without boy A Mafe and the potential of DeMarcus Lawrence
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Speaker 2: maybe leaving after this year, there's an edge rusher need
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Speaker 2: for the Seahawks to maybe get younger at that position,
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Speaker 2: deeper at that position. And you lost Woollen and Bryant
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Speaker 2: in the same offseason as well, So that does feel
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Speaker 2: to me like there's some defensive back depth need as well.
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Speaker 2: So do you see them maybe just sticking and picking
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Speaker 2: and just you know, before Day two's over, let's satisfy
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Speaker 2: those three holes. Let's get the best guy possible, the
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Speaker 2: best combination of guys possible, and let's just satisfy our needs.
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Speaker 2: Since we don't love this draft anyway.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think they could trade down and still do that.
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Speaker 6: Chuck and John Schneider tells you I wrote a story
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Speaker 6: in Anwstribune at dot com if you want to subscribe,
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Speaker 6: check it out. The running back situation could lend itself
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Speaker 6: to them trading out of the first round and still
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Speaker 6: getting them Jenarian Price. A lot of people are linking
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Speaker 6: the Seahawks to them. The Seahawks went to Notre Dame's
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Speaker 6: pro day. They reportedly had a couple guys talking to
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Speaker 6: the Notre Dame running backs coach. Price also was a
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Speaker 6: top kickoff returner in the nation. Last year a couple
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Speaker 6: returns for touchdowns one against USC he had seventeen I
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Speaker 6: think was seventeen touchdowns. Rushing over the last two years
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Speaker 6: was career ravaged six yards of carry, only had two
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Speaker 6: hundred and eighty collegiate snaps. Because Jeremiah Love was the
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Speaker 6: star running back in Notre Dame. Not name's as great
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Speaker 6: and the story as Notre Dame's history as the Four Horsemen,
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Speaker 6: all of it. They've never had two first round draft
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Speaker 6: picks and running back at one draft. And some people
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Speaker 6: think the Seahawks are going to take Price at thirty
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Speaker 6: two and Leve will go in the top five, probably
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Speaker 6: before or at John Harbor and the Giants at five.
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Speaker 6: But I could see the Seahawks trading down into the
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Speaker 6: first few picks of the second round. Tennessee, for instance,
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Speaker 6: needs everything and has a couple fifth round picks. They
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Speaker 6: are somebody that is four picks into the second round
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Speaker 6: that would work well with Seattle, Cleveland if perhaps a
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Speaker 6: quarterback Ty Simpson of Alabama is still there in thirty two,
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Speaker 6: perhaps Cleveland or Arizona another very quarterback needy team would
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Speaker 6: jump up and the Seahawks would be in the first
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Speaker 6: few picks of round two and gain a pick. In
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Speaker 6: doing that, I would think if the Sea have price
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Speaker 6: at thirty two, they're going to have price at thirty
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Speaker 6: five or thirty seven or thirty eight. The way the
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Speaker 6: league is so hesitant on running backs, especially the top
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Speaker 6: of the draft and big contracts, so last year there
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Speaker 6: were two running backs chosen in the first thirty five,
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Speaker 6: and that's been the norm recently. In the NFL drafts,
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Speaker 6: the Seahawks tend to pick theirs later. They've only had
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Speaker 6: three first round running back picks in their entire franchise history,
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Speaker 6: Kurt Warner, Sehn Alexander and Rashad Penny. Penny's the only
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Speaker 6: one in sixteen years that John Schneider has drafted in
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Speaker 6: the first round as a running back for Seattle, and
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Speaker 6: yet a lot of his running backs he's taken in
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Speaker 6: Day three. And overall he's drafted fourteen running backs and
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Speaker 6: more than half of them have been in the latter
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Speaker 6: couple rounds. Chris Carson a shining example of that. Last year,
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Speaker 6: Damian Martinez was a seventh round pick, as was Carson,
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Speaker 6: who became a starting running back, So they I think,
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Speaker 6: are going to get a running back if they could
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Speaker 6: still trade down and get price at the top of
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Speaker 6: the second round, or they could get a couple of
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Speaker 6: corners they're looking at at the top of the second round,
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Speaker 6: if they trade down and still perhaps get price at
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Speaker 6: the bottom of the second round where they own the
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Speaker 6: sixty fourth pick. I look at corner and the more
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Speaker 6: I read about, learn about watch Brandon cec the cornerback
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Speaker 6: from South Carolina, the more he seems like a Mike
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Speaker 6: McDonald guy. And not just because he went to South
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Speaker 6: Carolina where NICKI MN worry just came out of and started.
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Speaker 6: So last year doesn't hurt. But no, it doesn't hurt.
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Speaker 6: And he's they're familiar with the system. But Ceci is
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Speaker 6: a multiplicity guy. People think he can play in the slot.
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Speaker 6: They think he is an NFL tackler at the point
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Speaker 6: of attack against the run and run support outside and
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Speaker 6: of course he put outside corner itself of Carolina, and
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Speaker 6: they talk a lot around the South Carolina program about
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Speaker 6: his makeup. His work ethic is intent inables his ability
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Speaker 6: to anticipate in no football well enough to anticipate plays.
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Speaker 6: His position coach at South Carolina, Brandon Cecis said that
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Speaker 6: he knows and can talk about every position all eleven
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Speaker 6: on the defense. Does that not sound like a Mike
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Speaker 6: McMillan guy. Ye, yep, that really does. I think they
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Speaker 6: could go corner with Brandon ceci who maybe available late
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Speaker 6: in the first top of the second, and then still
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Speaker 6: go get your running back if if someone jumps and
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Speaker 6: takes price someone in the first thirty one picks a
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Speaker 6: round two Mike Washington of Mark's a bigger bruiser type
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Speaker 6: back to who earn twenty three pounds as someone they've
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Speaker 6: scheduled to have a thirty visit with who would likely
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Speaker 6: be available to them too. So the long answer is, yeah,
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Speaker 6: I think they're going to take a running back. But
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Speaker 6: they don't pick for needs, and they said they. John
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Speaker 6: Schneider has mentioned multiple times that he's gotten in trouble
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Speaker 6: when he's picked for need, but when need meets the
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Speaker 6: best player on the board at the time, Yeah, like
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Speaker 6: last year with Gray's Abel, then it worked perfectly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you're looking for. Greg bell Is with
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Speaker 2: for twenty four to seven, round the clock, all year
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Speaker 2: long coverage of your Seattle Seahawks and our Seahawks Insider
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Speaker 2: of course here on Chuck and Buck most days at
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Speaker 2: seven five as we get ready with Greg for the
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Speaker 2: NFL Draft, which is just eight sleeps from today, we've
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Speaker 2: gotten in the draft miss process. I mean, certainly we've
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Speaker 2: focused on running backs and corners and edge rushers, but
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Speaker 2: you know this is a full scale operation here, Greg.
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Speaker 2: So whether draftmas catalog looks at every single position before
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Speaker 2: Draft day comes, whether it's a Seahawk need or not.
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Speaker 2: What's another position that maybe we're sleeping on in all
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Speaker 2: this running back, cornerback, edge rusher talk. Is there something
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Speaker 2: that we're not seeing, some hole or need that maybe
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Speaker 2: the Seahawks have on their roster that they'll try to
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Speaker 2: satis that could catch us off guard next week?
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Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if it's catch off guard, because
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Speaker 6: it shouldn't. His history, John Schneider's history and the history
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Speaker 6: of roster building the last two decades in Seattle is interior,
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Speaker 6: offensive and defensive line, especially defensive line that they have
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Speaker 6: aged in the defensive line that they have mid almost
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Speaker 6: going on mid thirty somethings now on the defensive line,
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Speaker 6: the Marcus lawnch turns thirty four this month, thirty three
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Speaker 6: year old Leonard Williams, thirty three year old Jaron Reid.
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Speaker 6: They won't play forever. And we've talked about this all
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Speaker 6: the time. You don't draft for now. You draft for
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Speaker 6: now next year and the year after and the year after,
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Speaker 6: because you get these draft picks on four year rookie contracts.
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Speaker 6: So they have projected out and letter Williams' contract, for instance,
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Speaker 6: as such that he's unlikely to play beyond next year
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Speaker 6: something this might be his last year come up this year.
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Speaker 6: There's been rumors that the Marcus Lawrence would retire before
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Speaker 6: next season, before this fall, but Mike McDonald said that
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Speaker 6: they've given no indication. He's gotten no indication from Lawrence
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Speaker 6: that will happen. But the point is they won't play forever,
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Speaker 6: and you get the defensive line restocked so that you
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Speaker 6: can have eight, nine, ten guys playing in the first
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Speaker 6: quarter like they did in the Legion of Boom era,
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Speaker 6: when the defensive line was such an underrated part of
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Speaker 6: those championship teams. Mike McDonald's still trying to get there.
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Speaker 6: He doesn't quite have the depth that he's wanted along
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Speaker 6: the front line. He played Jaron Reed a lot more
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Speaker 6: than he intended to play in last year. Byron Murphy
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Speaker 6: got a lot more snaps that he had to get
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Speaker 6: compared to year one, and he excelled in it last year.
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Speaker 6: But he's gonna cost a little bit of money in
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Speaker 6: a couple of years. All of a sudden, his contract
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Speaker 6: is two years from ending. They need to restock there.
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Speaker 6: They have had a couple reported top thirty visits for
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Speaker 6: defensive tackles. I mean, the one that of course everyone
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Speaker 6: would love have is Kate McDonald of Ohio State. I
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Speaker 6: can't imagine he's going to be around at the bottom
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Speaker 6: the first round for what the dynamic careers he had
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Speaker 6: at the top level of college football.
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Speaker 2: But got drafted.
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Speaker 6: After roster get drafted in the first round and a half.
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Speaker 6: North Carolina. They nose tackle Brandon Cleveland another one. I've
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Speaker 6: space eater guy, a true nose tackle another one. They
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Speaker 6: beporely have a top thirty visit with. They almost always
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Speaker 6: draft defensive linemen. They want to develop them young. Mike
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Speaker 6: McDonald wants to show them the multiple inside, outside, multiple
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Speaker 6: gap ability, and this it makes financial and roster sense
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Speaker 6: that that's where they're going to go. And the thing is,
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Speaker 6: it's only four picks. We don't have the luxury of
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Speaker 6: just taken depth. But I would be surprised if not
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Speaker 6: one of the four or five I think they'll end
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Speaker 6: up with. Isn't a nose tackle defensive tackle tape?
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Speaker 2: Last thing for you? I mean, I've been told my
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Speaker 2: entire life the three phases of the game, and they're
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Speaker 2: all equal important, and I frankly have never bought it.
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Speaker 2: I thought that special teams, no way is equally as
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Speaker 2: important as offense and defense. And yet this past season
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Speaker 2: we saw a world champion, a team go from you know,
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Speaker 2: kind of stuck in mediocrity for a few years, and
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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden improved a year ago and
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Speaker 2: now Super Bowl champions in the second year of Mike McDonald,
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Speaker 2: and boy, they sure were damn good on special teams
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Speaker 2: and in all phases of special teams. Do you think
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Speaker 2: that that you know, this is a copycat league. Do
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Speaker 2: you think that their success last year in special teams
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Speaker 2: will impact the draft not just what the Seahawks do,
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Speaker 2: but what other teams do. As they sit there with
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Speaker 2: envy and say, hey, we got to get better at
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Speaker 2: special teams, because that was a huge reason why the
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Speaker 2: Seahawks had some success last year, had the success that
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Speaker 2: they had.
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Speaker 6: I'm not sure the draft chuck, because most of the guys,
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Speaker 6: unless he's a first round top of the half of
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Speaker 6: the first round blue chip guy, almost all your draft
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Speaker 6: picks have to play on special teams in order to
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Speaker 6: get on the field as rookies, just because their rosters
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Speaker 6: are pretty stacked with veterans. But what it might change
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Speaker 6: is how many starters play on special teams during the
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Speaker 6: regular year, and not a lot of teams do that.
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Speaker 6: And not that Seahawks don't have a ton of starter
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Speaker 6: doing it, but they have key contributors who play special teams.
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Speaker 6: I mean, they just spent seventeen million a year on
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Speaker 6: basically because of special teams. In Rashid Cheet, I know
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Speaker 6: he's a wide receiver, but his true value to this
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Speaker 6: team is then kick returns, and we saw that at
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Speaker 6: the latter half of last season. If they got him
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Speaker 6: from the Saints and they re signed him for his
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Speaker 6: kick return break game breaking ability, they also the Seahawks
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Speaker 6: basically beyond Shaheed. They ran it back with their special
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Speaker 6: teams Jake Bobo, matching the offer from Jacksonville, Drake Thomas
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Speaker 6: given him a new deal down the line. The guys
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Speaker 6: they've brought back are core special teams players and not
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Speaker 6: big name starters or offense even, but they're core guys
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Speaker 6: that are glue type players. Those are the guys that
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Speaker 6: are really valuable that no one talks about that teams
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Speaker 6: around the NFL wish they had. I mean, not every
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Speaker 6: team re signs special teams players. Those are usually more
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Speaker 6: than they spent disposable parts of the roster. So that's
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Speaker 6: I think the uniqueness of Seattle that's hard to copy.
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Speaker 6: The rest of the league doesn't have guys worth resigning.
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Speaker 6: The creata matching restricted free agent offers for a primary
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Speaker 6: special teams player sans seventeen million dollars on a kick
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Speaker 6: returner a year, mostly players. Most teams don't have players
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Speaker 6: worthy of that, and then so I think Seattle's an
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Speaker 6: anomaly will stay that way and that's a big plus
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Speaker 6: to them. They also have a very innovative special teams
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Speaker 6: coach in Jay Harbaugh. And you talked to Bobo and
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Speaker 6: Shaheed and the Special teams players. They marvel at the
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Speaker 6: concoctions that guy comes up with. They liken him to
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Speaker 6: a mad scientist on the all kinds of crazy, newly
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Speaker 6: innovative stuff they do because of Jay Harbor, and I
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Speaker 6: know Mike McDonald loves them too. That is a very
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Speaker 6: underrated get for him from Michigan, Jay Harbor and special
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Speaker 6: teams coach.
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Speaker 2: All right, Greg, well, uh here we go. The anchor
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Speaker 2: legged the last eight days before the NFL Draft, before
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Speaker 2: our lives change next week.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll be spending a lot of time, yeah, Retten
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Speaker 6: for three days.
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Speaker 2: Get to spend some time together. That's what the holidays
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Speaker 2: are all about, Greg, spend time with friends and family
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Speaker 6: That's an impressive tree in the studio. I know you
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, tree and draft miss time for sure.
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Speaker 6: You're in a crabcakes galore. It just has come quickly
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Speaker 6: this year. I will say that it's really it's really
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Speaker 2: I like to call our tree Old Mike Tannenbaum. That's
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Speaker 6: It, just to keep it the football theme. Yes, yeah,
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Speaker 6: need a truck a real tree in there though, that
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Speaker 6: would be pretty northwest of you.
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Speaker 2: That sounds like a lot of work. And I already
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you probably live on the edge of some tree farm.
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Speaker 2: We don't have our lumberjack. He's not even coming to
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can get him to chop a tree down
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Speaker 2: All right, Greg, Well we will talk to you very
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Speaker 2: very soon. Don't leave too.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have reasons not to leave.
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Speaker 6: Can you not do it now?
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Speaker 2: Well, I can do it. This is not just like
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Speaker 2: That doesn't affect my routine at all. I'm not even
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Speaker 2: certainly the social media world. I don't think the sports
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Speaker 2: certainly the social media platforms are. I mean you can't
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Speaker 2: go on any of them. I only use one of them,
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Speaker 2: and you can't go on there without Diana Russini coming
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Speaker 2: up on every other post. At this stage, I do
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Speaker 2: think it's absolutely worth having a conversation about, but I
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Speaker 2: be about it, and this is how I would just
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Speaker 2: that he doesn't address this and has even apparently canceled
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Speaker 2: pre draft communication with the media because he doesn't want
23:53
Speaker 2: to be asked about this, which I think is a
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Speaker 2: calculated error on both the Patriots part and Mike Rabel's part.
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Speaker 2: Diana Russini wrote had a written statement yesterday, still denying
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Speaker 2: that anything extracurricular has happened beyond friendship with her and
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Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel, that her integrity remains intact as a reporter,
24:14
Speaker 2: but all of the wild speculation has led to such
24:18
Speaker 2: an uncomfortable experience. She's stepping away from the Athletic, who
24:21
Speaker 2: she claims in her statement has supported her and is
24:24
Speaker 2: supporting her still one hundred percent and believing her side
24:27
Speaker 2: of the story, even while they do apparently investigate it all.
24:32
Speaker 2: I have a couple of things to say about. The
24:33
Speaker 2: First thing I would say is I think Ashley, from
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Speaker 2: a moral standpoint, they're both equally wrong whatever's going on
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Speaker 2: out there. If it's just a friendship, then they don't
24:44
Speaker 2: they're not doing anything wrong. I suppose, you know, if
24:46
Speaker 2: both the both the spouses know what's going on, still.
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Speaker 4: An interesting friendship, that you end up in Arizona together
24:52
Speaker 4: without your spouses.
24:53
Speaker 2: Right, and and as a lot of people have been
24:56
Speaker 2: pointing out, where are all those friends that you're apparently.
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Speaker 3: Four people missing from any of the photos?
25:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, and haven't you had time to produce something?
25:05
Speaker 4: That's what the athletic ask her to do, provide proof
25:08
Speaker 4: that her story added up right. And then the next
25:11
Speaker 4: thing we hear she's resigning. So does that mean you
25:13
Speaker 4: didn't have any proof? I think it would be easy
25:16
Speaker 4: to provide that.
25:18
Speaker 2: No, women never take photos with their phones when.
25:21
Speaker 4: They go on a curls, never ninety five selfies taken.
25:26
Speaker 4: You could have shown hotel receipts.
25:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, dinner, Wait, did you have a dinner for four?
25:32
Speaker 2: I mean, I imagine Rabel eats a lot yeah. So,
25:36
Speaker 2: so I'm assuming that they are having an affair, and
25:39
Speaker 2: that happens in every walk of life, that happens in
25:42
Speaker 2: every profession, and so, but there is a difference, in
25:46
Speaker 2: my opinion from a moral standpoint. There is no difference
25:49
Speaker 2: for those that are trying to turn this into a
25:51
Speaker 2: masochistic thing or a sexist thing. You know, I just
25:55
Speaker 2: don't see. I mean, yes, there is different treatment being
25:58
Speaker 2: shown Diana than there is Mike Vrabel, but they are
26:01
Speaker 2: also completely different circumstances as well. So an NFL head coach,
26:09
Speaker 2: his job is not really dependent upon whether or not
26:14
Speaker 2: he's having an extra marital affair or not. And the
26:19
Speaker 2: reporter or anyone or anyone, and so no matter what
26:24
Speaker 2: profession that he is having an extra marital affair, whoever
26:29
Speaker 2: is in that profession probably not going to affect the
26:31
Speaker 2: way that he coaches a football team. But when your
26:34
Speaker 2: job is to operate with the integrity of honesty and
26:40
Speaker 2: sources and where you're getting information and how you're getting
26:43
Speaker 2: that's your job. And if you're getting it because you're
26:47
Speaker 2: having an extra marital affair with someone and you're getting
26:51
Speaker 2: information because of that relationship, now that does bring into
26:57
Speaker 2: question your integrity as a reporter, and your integrity as
27:01
Speaker 2: a reporter is everything to your job. And so this
27:05
Speaker 2: is not, you know, people siding with the man and
27:09
Speaker 2: not with the woman.
27:10
Speaker 1: This is.
27:13
Speaker 2: Completely different circumstances. And I am, for one, Glad Ashley,
27:17
Speaker 2: to see so many female journalists who are stepping forward,
27:21
Speaker 2: because if you leave it to men when we criticize
27:26
Speaker 2: and compare the situations, it comes off to a lot
27:29
Speaker 2: of people as being chauvinistic, masochistic, sexist, whatever word you
27:34
Speaker 2: would like to apply to it. So I want to
27:37
Speaker 2: see the female broadcasters, sportscasters such as yourself, and I'm
27:43
Speaker 2: not trying to put words in your mouth, come forward
27:45
Speaker 2: and say I don't like the way that this reflects
27:48
Speaker 2: on me, and this is way out of bounds. And
27:51
Speaker 2: we're seeing a lot of a lot of female sportscasters
27:55
Speaker 2: that are coming forward and saying this, and that's what
27:57
Speaker 2: I'm encouraged about.
27:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I will say this, there's a lot of
28:00
Speaker 4: people out there that can differentiate between what one person
28:03
Speaker 4: does and the rest of female reporters, right, But there
28:05
Speaker 4: are also a lot of people out there who can't,
28:08
Speaker 4: who are like, oh, well, this is what happens with
28:10
Speaker 4: every female and they lump any female sports person into
28:13
Speaker 4: the same category because they can't differentiate. So for those
28:16
Speaker 4: people who can't differentiate, No, this is not every female
28:20
Speaker 4: person in the sports industry. This is not how they
28:22
Speaker 4: got their jobs, This is not how they conduct themselves,
28:24
Speaker 4: and this is not how they do business. Having nothing
28:26
Speaker 4: to do with the extra marital affair because that is
28:29
Speaker 4: between them and their spouses. It is an inappropriate relationship
28:34
Speaker 4: to have ever met an NFL head coach for the
28:37
Speaker 4: day with your with your friends quote unquote at a
28:41
Speaker 4: Sedona resort and you're you're these pictures. I mean no,
28:45
Speaker 4: they're not kissing, but they're holding hands, they're doing they're dancing,
28:48
Speaker 4: they're hanging out in the pool. It's not like it's
28:50
Speaker 4: a big NFL convention. No, it's not a convention, and
28:55
Speaker 4: they just happen to catch photos. These are not professional interactions.
28:59
Speaker 4: And so it is. It does put her in more
29:03
Speaker 4: of a bad light than it puts him in. And
29:05
Speaker 4: it's not because she's a woman. It's because of her
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Speaker 4: job one percent.
29:08
Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean she's a worse person than him. No,
29:11
Speaker 2: that's not the statement. No, we're not judging that from
29:13
Speaker 2: a professional standpoint, she violated a lot more responsibilities than
29:19
Speaker 2: what he did. And I think that there are lots
29:22
Speaker 2: of NFL head coaches having extramarital affairs out there, and
29:26
Speaker 2: no matter what profession they are, they're going to continue
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Speaker 2: coaching football as long as it doesn't interfere with their
29:32
Speaker 2: daily duties. But now, all of a sudden, her integrity,
29:36
Speaker 2: her reputation, how she gets her information, all of that,
29:41
Speaker 2: and I'm that's just a short list, it's a long list,
29:43
Speaker 2: is now being questioned. And those that do the same
29:47
Speaker 2: job obviously are blowing a few whistles on this, And
29:51
Speaker 2: so that's why there's the difference, right, And I am
29:56
Speaker 2: encouraged because that you are so right. There are so
29:58
Speaker 2: many really good female broadcasters out there, and there are
30:02
Speaker 2: a lot more young ones on the that have come
30:05
Speaker 2: up through the through the ranks and they've done it
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Speaker 2: the right way, and unfortunately they get lumped in with
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Speaker 2: stories like this. And I think it's the women in
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Speaker 2: this business, in this profession that have to come down
30:16
Speaker 2: on the Diana Russini stories more so than men. Don't
30:19
Speaker 2: leave it to us, right, Don't leave it to us,
30:21
Speaker 2: because we all know this is not how you're supposed
30:24
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Speaker 4: And here's the thing too, had she never had a
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Speaker 4: rumor about her in her professionalism, this probably would have
30:32
Speaker 4: been she would have been a lot more believable in
30:35
Speaker 4: this situation. But there have been rumors in the past
30:37
Speaker 4: about the way she conducts herself. So this now being
30:39
Speaker 4: I think the third time something like this has been
30:42
Speaker 4: brought up.
30:42
Speaker 2: Did you hear the Chris Simms Mike Florio exchange?
30:45
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't hear that.
30:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they do the they've done the podcast together
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Speaker 2: for here's you used to a radio show together, and
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Speaker 2: Chris Simms was getting ready to reveal like people in
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Speaker 2: have communicated with him, and Florio cut him off, like no, no, no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 2: let's not do that.
31:03
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, let's don't cut him off next time.
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Speaker 2: But but the video even though he got cut off,
31:09
Speaker 2: and I think Mike did a nice job of saving him,
31:12
Speaker 2: because I don't think he do want to start naming
31:14
Speaker 2: don't situations.
31:15
Speaker 3: I've been interested to hear it.
31:16
Speaker 2: But the fact that Chris was obviously bothered, like don't
31:19
Speaker 2: tell me to shut up. I'm getting ready to reveal
31:21
Speaker 2: some really juicy information. But he was kind of told
31:23
Speaker 2: to zip it. I mean, that spoke volumes in and
31:27
Speaker 2: of itself because Chris Simms, obviously, dad's in the NFL,
31:30
Speaker 2: in the media, played in the league. He knows people,
31:33
Speaker 2: and he was getting ready to rattle off a lot
31:35
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31:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, so she has so clearly there have been questionable
31:44
Speaker 4: things in the past. Whether that was fair or unfair
31:46
Speaker 4: to her, I don't know. But because of those now
31:48
Speaker 4: this looks even worse.
31:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess you know, yes, I do acknowledge
31:55
Speaker 2: there's a chance that it's a lot more innocent than
31:57
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Speaker 3: There is.
31:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't have it's not like we caught it.
32:01
Speaker 2: It's not like a Kardashian tape. No, it's not like
32:04
Speaker 2: we caught him doing anything like that. So yeah, I'll
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Speaker 2: leave the door open for that. But still, there's enough
32:11
Speaker 2: smoke and fire there that probably best that she steps away,
32:16
Speaker 2: And I wonder if anybody would hire her again. She's
32:18
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32:23
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Speaker 4: And I'm sure she'll find another job because there's so
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32:30
Speaker 3: And things like that now that somebody will want her
32:32
Speaker 3: because of all.
32:32
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Speaker 2: our rotation when Bryce Miller is ready to return. Here
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Speaker 2: is my list. This is how I would do it,
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Speaker 2: know that the Mariners are not going to get reckless
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Speaker 2: with this thing. I know what the Mariners are going
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Speaker 2: to do. They're going to take Emerson hand cock and
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Speaker 2: put him in the bullpen. That's what they're going to do.
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Speaker 2: They're going to activate Bryce Miller. They're certainly not going
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Speaker 2: I guess I'll take intod motion to the bullpen, even
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Speaker 2: though I'm pitching better than everyone. It's fine, give me
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Speaker 2: the boat the least, and doesn't also give Emerson the
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Speaker 2: feeling of dejection that he's going back to Tacoma after
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Speaker 2: pitching as well as what he's pitched. So that's what
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Speaker 2: I imagine they're going to do when the time comes.
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Speaker 2: It's not what I would do, and my pecking order
34:46
Speaker 2: would be this. I trade Luis Castile already talked about
34:51
Speaker 2: this last week, already got a plan mapped out for you.
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Speaker 2: Chicago Cubs needs starting pitching. Ian happ Is somebody nexs
34:58
Speaker 2: twenty million dollars a year. They wouldn't have to add
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Speaker 2: too much payroll, but they will be willing to add
35:03
Speaker 2: some payroll. Mariners can get out from underneath the and
35:06
Speaker 2: a half contract next year if they don't like it
35:08
Speaker 2: that much. You improve with a goal clove like three
35:11
Speaker 2: time goal glove defensive left fielder who can also switch hits,
35:16
Speaker 2: so you can kind of eliminate a platoon in that situation.
35:20
Speaker 2: Randy Rose Arena, who's been great by the way, he's
35:23
Speaker 2: right now the best player on the Mariners that's playing
35:26
Speaker 2: every day. He might become your DH in that situation,
35:30
Speaker 2: or maybe there's a position change to right field. But
35:33
Speaker 2: to me, you have five starters, young starters, controllable starters
35:40
Speaker 2: that you can keep. I think there is a market
35:43
Speaker 2: right now for Luis Castillle with teams that are trying
35:45
Speaker 2: to contend and yet have lost starting pitchers this year,
35:50
Speaker 2: and they don't have free agency to fall back on,
35:53
Speaker 2: they would have to make a move in order to
35:55
Speaker 2: do it. I say, take advantage of the market right now.
35:58
Speaker 2: I think you have that opportunity and you could improve
36:00
Speaker 2: your team and you might actually improve your starting rotation,
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Speaker 2: because Castillo looks like he's the sixth best of the
36:06
Speaker 2: group right now. Yeah, right, okay, So that's that would
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Speaker 2: be the thing that I did first. Now, a lot
36:12
Speaker 2: of people panic about the idea of trading any starting pitching,
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Speaker 2: and certainly somebody that's so likable in the clubhouse. So
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Speaker 2: if you didn't want to do that, the second thing
36:21
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36:24
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36:28
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36:30
Speaker 2: the chin for the good of the situation, I don't
36:34
Speaker 2: want to also disrupt the rhythm that he's in as
36:39
Speaker 2: a starting pitcher in case you need to bring him back,
36:42
Speaker 2: because you never know what's going to happen in a
36:43
Speaker 2: short period of time. I'm not going to disrupt his
36:47
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36:50
Speaker 2: By turning him into a reliever who may not know
36:52
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Speaker 2: just to save his feeling, I mean, I'm going to
36:57
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36:59
Speaker 2: to save his feelings by keeping him in a Mariner
37:01
Speaker 2: uniform so that he can travel with his buddies and
37:05
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37:10
Speaker 2: I'm going to send him to Tacoma, which is right
37:12
Speaker 2: down the road, and if I need him to come back,
37:15
Speaker 2: and then I can bring him back spot start, whatever
37:18
Speaker 2: the case may be. Those are the two options that
37:20
Speaker 2: I go with. Those fly in the face of what
37:22
Speaker 2: Ryan Healy said yesterday. He thinks you just move him
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37:28
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37:43
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37:45
Speaker 2: to be great. The rest of the season than I
37:47
Speaker 2: do Hancock or Miller. So those are the two moves
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Speaker 2: that I make, and I would imagine the Mariners are
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Speaker 2: not going to do either. I think they're probably going
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Speaker 2: to put Emerson Hancock in the pen, even though I
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Speaker 2: have no insight information into that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I just that's the one thing I really
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Speaker 4: don't want them to do because I get that when
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Speaker 4: it's the playoffs and you need that person up there,
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Speaker 4: but right now, early on when you could need him
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Speaker 4: when someone gets hurting, he could potentially be going back
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Speaker 4: and forth from the bullpen to the starting rotation all season.
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Speaker 3: That just seems he seems.
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Speaker 2: Like he's figured something out, he's figured like he's got
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Speaker 2: a groove. I'm going to at least keep him in
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Speaker 2: that groove, yeah, you know, and I'm going to trust
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Speaker 2: that Emerson's he's just not gonna be as red ass
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Speaker 2: as somebody else that you might do this too, and
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Speaker 2: that he'll understand and like those are really five good
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Speaker 2: pictures and they're great buddies mine. That's fine.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but I think I wonder how long
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Speaker 3: you can keep saying.
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Speaker 2: That, Well, you have to, I mean, what else are
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Speaker 2: you gonna do? Because I'm not going to go six
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Speaker 2: man rotation either, because that could screw up everybody, because
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Speaker 2: everybody seems to be, with the exception of Castillo, in
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Speaker 2: a pretty good rhythm right now. So I'm not doing
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Speaker 2: the six man rotation. I would do that last. I'd
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Speaker 2: put handcock in the pen before I go to a
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Speaker 2: six man rotation.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 4: It's as we said, it is a good problem to have,
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Speaker 4: but it's a problem, that's for sure, all right.
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