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Latest of Matt Campbell, Bama Bob on College Football, Mike Palm from Circa Sports & Football Friday Picks · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  All right, now we're #2 Miller and Condon, welcome back Iowa
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  Sports Radio Network Bama. Bob, in a couple of minutes, we
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  will go round the championship games this weekend.
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  Mike Palm will head out to Las Vegas.
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  Go behind the counter with Mike, inside the numbers with Mike
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  Palm on these games as well as the NFL slate.
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  Let's let's recap where we're at.
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  Nothing official yet. Sure.
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  Seems like everything is pointed to Matt Campbell going to Penn
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  State. Does he take anybody on the
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  staff with him? Haycock's been rumoured to be
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  retiring. He's at that point.
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  I wouldn't think that he would want to stay at Iowa State for a
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  year and then move on. I'm not sure he'd want to follow
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  Matt Campbell for a brief period of time, or Matt Campbell would
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  want him to and move on, other than maybe in a consulting role
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  of some kind. He's got to build a staff from
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  somewhere. And I mean, Hank, the
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  quarterback coach, he makes a lot of sense, right?
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  He's a Pennsylvania native. OK Was out there.
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  Yeah. I think that's definitely one
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  that you'd think is a starting spot.
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  What about? Sheilhouse going to Penn State?
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  As the offense coordinator, does he want to get back to the
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  college game? That's what we don't know.
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  Right taste of the NFL. Yes, for how many times do we
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  hear it, guys, once they get that taste of the NFL, I'm not
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  going back to. Recruit.
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  Yeah, I'm not going back that direction.
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  Jake Waters, who was well. Yes, yes.
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  And that's the thing too. You kind of go hand in hand.
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  Well, what if Mauser is a candidate for the head coaching
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  job? You know, is, is that a
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  possibility? Some people want to see that, if
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  that's a possibility, that direction.
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  Ryan Clinton, the good grades that he has got, there's going
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  to be names, I think. Haycock, though.
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  Probably. I don't think so.
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  I don't. I think he's probably done.
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  That was the rumor, anyway. And what about Jim Knowles?
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  Is that a package deal? Do is they crossed paths when he
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  was at Oklahoma State. Island that would work.
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  Yes, absolutely. And we know the bump that they
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  always take in here #2 Knowles defense, huge.
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  Yes. This was year one.
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  Mm hmm. Assuming there's a defense
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  that's, you know, remains relatively similar because these
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  guys can leave. I think Penn State will be fine.
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  Yeah, I think they will too. I don't think it'll be fine next
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  year, but I think in the long run they'll be fine.
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  It's fascinating to see where it goes because yes, there's, you
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  know, who's next in Iowa State or who does Matt Campbell leave
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  behind? And what about the players on
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  the existing roster and that recruiting classes or anybody
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  there that would move Penn State's needle?
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  I don't know. I don't follow recruiting close
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  enough to have an opinion either way on that.
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  Pete Thamel was one of the many that we've talked about it and
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  the sources that they're closing in a deal.
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  This was the verbiage that he used Matt Campbell in Penn
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  State, this was just over an hour ago.
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  Are working toward a deal for him to become the next coach at
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  Penn State. There's multiple steps needed to
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  finalize, including agreeing to terms and formal approval of
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  compensation. Besides, met in Iowa on Thursday
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  night and have been working toward an agreement since.
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  Nothing is signed and there's still a few steps remaining for
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  this come to fruition. That's the last on the National
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  Front that I've seen. Has there been anything that
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  you've seen? No Bruce Feldman opining, but
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  but, but nothing, no, nothing. I think everybody's kind of
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  using the same info and just putting their own spin on it.
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  We shall see. More on this coming up.
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  Let's talk about the games that takes place this weekend.
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  A little news in our neck of the woods.
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  Bama, Bob, Matt Campbell, which is always.
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  Yeah, I'm headed to Penn State. How about that?
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  Yeah, and I mean, it's Iowa State fans.
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  I don't know how they're going to feel about that, but I think
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  they should give him nothing but thanks for 8-9 years, whatever
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  he's been there. I'm sure he's had other chances
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  to leave before and has stayed. And I I won't say he took them
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  as as far as he could, but it was a pretty unprecedented run
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  of success. And Iowa State, you can't blame
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  him for wanting to move on after a decade and, you know, go to a
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  quote UN quote bigger program. I don't know that it is right
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  now. I think it could be will be
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  certainly the brand name has been a lot of tradition there,
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  much of it good, some of it terrible.
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  But I think he would be I think it's I think it's a home run
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  hire for for Penn State. I know there's been other names
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  floated around the bore down here.
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  He loses Saturday. I don't think that was ever
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  going to happen. Tomlin if he's done with the
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  Steelers, like Tomlin is not a college coach.
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  And so you've seen those other names thrown around, right.
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  This is, I think this is kind of a, I think this is a home run
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  hire I do for for Penn State. I think I think Matt Campbell's
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  that good and you know, he's going to have a chance to prove
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  it. A little more pressure, a lot
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  more resources. I don't know if he'll make what
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  James Franklin was, but I don't think he cares right now.
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  Big, big news for big good hire for Penn State.
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  Yeah, I think the AD patch craft maybe saved a little face
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  because he'd been looking really bad with all of these things.
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  And then the leaked audio of him and the T.
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  No, I didn't listen to him. What?
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  How is it damning? Oh, he's ripping everybody.
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  Buddy, everybody like other schools.
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  Oh yeah, Michigan. They're cheaters and just.
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  Yeah, I don't have a problem with that if I'm a Penn State
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  fan, yeah. He's.
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  I'm not. Sure, I'll go over when they get
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  together next time. The Iowa's quarterbacks running
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  all over you guys that there was, there's some things in
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  there. Was there?
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  Yeah, yeah. He did he mention Gronowski by
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  name? No.
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  He just said the Iowa quarterback.
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  All right, all right, let's get into this, boys.
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  We've got a fun slate ahead of us this weekend.
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  Championship weekend. Let's start with the Big 12
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  because they're they're the first game, right?
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  11:00 tomorrow morning. BYU and Texas Tech is about 13
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  is the point spread trend. BYU I think has to win to get in
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  the playoff. I don't I don't see a path
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  otherwise. We saw this game earlier in the
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  year. Texas Tech got him.
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  Your thoughts TC? I don't think this is a game.
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  I think a lot of people are saying BYU has to win in a
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  slugfest. They got to slow things down.
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  I think Texas Tech is too good up front, certainly on that
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  defensive line, and they're front 7:00 to be able to do
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  that. Just line up, try to play bully
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  ball and try to shorten this game.
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  I think they need to win in a shootout.
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  They need to open this up and they need to hope that they can
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  score to keep up with Texas Tech.
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  And I don't think they do that. Just running the ball 3540 times
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  in this one. Can that blueprint work?
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  I don't think so. Texas Tech, they're just a
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  better football team. They are playing their best
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  football as well here at the end of the season I think Tech
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  rolls. All right.
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  So if they don't, then it's a close game, Trent, it's 3130
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  path for BYU coming out on the short end.
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  I don't think so. I don't think there was either.
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  They lost by 22 the first time. It's a blowout loss, not just a
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  loss of blowout loss. Bama, how do you see the Big 12?
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  Yeah, I think this is BYU somehow mix this Game Boy,
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  you're going to have a lot of nervous people in Alabama,
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  especially with the with the SEC one next.
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  But you're going to have nervous people in South Bend.
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  You're going to have nervous people in Miami all over the
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  place, right, because Texas takes in.
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  They're not they're not missing it.
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  I don't believe, even though it would be a two loss team, I
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  don't see this game being particularly close.
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  It's in Dallas, TX tech certainly going to have the
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  crowd behind them indoors, fast track, all that type of thing.
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  I mean, Jose Martin was limited in the first game, so maybe that
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  helps a little bit. But I just I'm with you.
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  I don't this game wasn't competitive the first time.
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  I don't see it being overly competitive this time.
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  I think maybe they do hang around a little bit, but I think
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  Texas takes good enough to win by double digits, whether
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  that's, you know, 10 or 12 within the number or 14 outside
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  the number. I do.
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  I think Texas Tech finishes what they've started.
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  I think they go in, they get a home playoff game in Lubbock,
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  which nobody is going to want to visit in December.
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  So whoever, whoever, whoever goes to Lubbock, pardon me, he's
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  not going to have a good time. I think Tech rolls and I think
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  they cover the spread. We'll see if that's how it
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  plays. I mean, they could get a buy,
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  right? No, absolutely.
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  Right. We'll see.
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  Let's go to the SCCTC. Georgia and Alabama number
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  opened at Georgia, 1 1/2. It's now up to two 2 1/2.
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  So it's moved a little, not significantly.
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  But it hasn't got to that key number.
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  Not three, you're right. And.
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  Off the fence. That is something that concerns
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  me from the betting angle of this because I like Georgia, you
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  like Georgia. Everybody in the world seems to
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  like Georgia. I, you know, one person outside
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  of maybe people in the state of Alabama that is picking Alabama
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  this week yet with all the steam.
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  No, but I'm hearing a lot of people think that it's going to
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  be a very tight. Game We saw Georgia come roaring
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  back. Jim Miller's not going to play.
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  Ty Simpson leads the country in fumbles.
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  He has not been playing well and yet it can't even get to 3.
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  I guess I'm going to grab the points here because everybody
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  goes one way. I'm going to go the other here.
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  I'll grab Bama and the points. And one thing we know Kirby
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  Smart, he beats everybody except for Alabama.
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  Bama, Bob, if, if Georgia takes them to the shed, and I don't
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  think they will, but let's say it does happen that way, you
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  know, that they get beat by three touchdowns and that would
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  be Alabama's third loss. Bama fans on pins and needles or
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  are they going to? Would they stay in, do you
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  think? If it's a blowout, they're going
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  to be, there's going to be some nervous.
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  There's been a sleepless night, let's put it that way.
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  For a lot of Alabama fans. If it's I don't think it will
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  be. But you mentioned the keys,
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  right? Jim Miller's not going to play.
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  That's that's a big one. He hasn't been great, but he was
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  good against Auburn and he was really good run defense.
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  Now Daniel Hill, who's the backup, I think Kevin Riley is
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  going to play. He'll kind of be their change of
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  pace guy, but they haven't been able to run the ball all season.
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  They did have more success against Auburn and I thought
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  they would, but a lot of that I think was because Auburn was
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  maybe limited on offense and so they could they could run it and
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  keep it close. I think the key, the absolute
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  100% key is Ty Simpson. He has to play better.
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  That passing game against Auburn was all kinds of out of sync,
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  right? Ryan Williams wasn't even
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  targeted in that game. Jeremy Bernard I think was
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  targeted five times, had one catch.
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  If it wasn't for oh God gamer, the kids name now the kid had
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  caught 3 touchdowns. I mean, that game is that game
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  is, oh, I don't know where that passing in goes.
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  It was it was a mess. He's got to play better.
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  Georgia fans are going to be outnumbering Alabama.
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  That said, listen, they just got done with Georgia Tech.
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  That game was was closer than I think a lot of people thought it
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  was. I don't know that Georgia is
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  going to pull away. And again, you mentioned the
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  record. It is inexplicable to me.
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  And I couldn't believe this the last time I heard it before the
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  game, this earlier this year that that Kirby Smart is 1 and
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  seven against Alabama. It's just because you think of
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  all the meetings they have, you know, regular season SEC
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  championships. They met the national
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  championship. They met in the playoffs.
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  And he's got one win. I think he gets the second one
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  tomorrow if it's close. I think Alabama is going to have
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  to go on the road. I think they will get in.
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  Because if you think about it, my opinion, right, yes, the
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  Florida State loss, if you want to look at the playoff
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  contenders, that's maybe as bad of a loss as anybody has other
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  than, you know, Texas with the Florida loss, I don't think
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  Texas is employer. No, they're not.
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  No, but you cannot point to a better win that anybody has than
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  going into out against Georgia. So you're going to have to beat
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  them twice now to get into the playoff.
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  You're just going to erase that road game.
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  And that's why I think if it is close, if it's a touchdown or
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  whatever, I think Alabama is in. I think they should be in.
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  If it gets out of hand, which again, I don't think it will,
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  I'd be surprised. If it does, then yeah, you're
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  going to have some people ask, well, should a team that just
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  got blown out of the conference championship game be allowed to
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  get into the playoff as you know, 11-12, whatever it's going
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  to be. But yes, I think this is a
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  dangerous game for Alabama. I think Georgia wins it.
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  If it's within a touchdown, I don't think Alabama has anything
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  to worry about. Certainly if they win the game,
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  you know, now you're talking, obviously, at minimum you're
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  going to host a game. You might get one of those top
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  four buys depending on what else falls.
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  Out. Or maybe you're 5 and you're
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  playing the Group of Five team. I've seen that.
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  Too. Yeah, yeah, fine. 5 versus 12,
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  yeah. Yeah, bring 2 lane up to bring
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  them up to Brian, Danny or James Madison if everything breaks
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  right, right. But yeah, I think I think it's
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  going to be AI think it's a close game.
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  You just listen. These teams are too good.
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  They're too talented, I think, for one to get away from the
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  other. But I think Georgia does win.
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  And Ty Simpson, if Simpson turns it over a couple times, either
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  interceptions or fumbles or whatever, then it could get
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  dangerous. Alabama, I think they take care
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  of it. I think Georgia will play a
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  little closer to the best maybe than usual.
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  And then I think they win. But I don't think it's a blow
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  out. Yeah, Ty Simpson's Heisman
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  chances are fading. It would be.
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  It would behoove him to have a good game tomorrow.
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  No doubt about that, boys. As much college football as I
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  want, I'm not sure. I saw Virginia once.
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  He didn't. Watch him on that Friday night.
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  I don't. Did they play Friday?
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  Then I did Florida State. OK, then I did.
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  Yeah. I don't remember it.
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  That's when the player almost got trampled in the end zone.
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  Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When they rushed the field, yes.
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  Thank you for. Here we go.
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  OK, now you just. Disappeared.
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  Yes, all right, so, so good. I feel better about myself that
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  I didn't miss a playoff team, but bam.
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  But Trent, regardless of my viewing habits, Virginia, they
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  played. It was 3417.
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  It wasn't that close. No, it wasn't.
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  Duke scored a couple late, right?
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  It was 31 to 3 in the 4th. Quarter, Yeah, no.
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  Before a couple of garbage. Tarts does Duke.
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  I mean, can they? Yes.
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  Will they? Because it's Daria Mensa?
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  I mean that that guy is inconsistent.
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  When he is bad, he is brutal and he'll turn the ball over five
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  times, not even think about it. But when he is on, they can
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  score. Virginia's number 2 wide
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  receiver doesn't look like he's going to play.
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  It is raining in Charlotte. It is going to be a sloppy
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  track, ugly, gross. This is perfect for the ACC.
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  This thing's going to be hideous.
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  And I think Duke hangs around. Like covers the numbers what, 3
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  1/2? More Yeah, it's going to be a
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  game in the fourth quarter. All right.
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  Is it Bama going to be a game in the fourth quarter?
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  Oh boy, I want to say yeah, because it's the ACC and you
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  never know what you're going to get.
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  The spread to me I think tells you everything, right.
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  You've got a what do you got? A four loss team, five loss team
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  55 that's in their conference championship game and they are
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  only a four point dog to a team with one loss.
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  I mean, that tells you everything you need to know.
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  I think about this conference and we're better sit, right.
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  You mentioned that the the slop, the muck, everything.
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  Probably a lot of empty seats in that station.
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  Yeah. And you know, they're all blue,
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  right, in Charlotte. So I mean, you're just going to
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  you're going to see a lot of it was like one of the Panthers
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  games from a couple years ago. But look, I think Virginia is
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  good enough to win. If they don't, then then yeah,
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  that's going to that's going to help a lot of people in South
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  Bend and other places breathe easier because there's no way
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  you're putting Duke into the playoff and there's no way
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  Virginia's getting in losing to that team.
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  What who that opens the door for maybe James Madison, who knows.
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  But yeah, I I think Virginia gets it done and I think they're
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  going to be last year's SMU. I think they're going to get
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  into the playoffs and they're going to absolutely boat race by
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  somebody in that playoff game, kind of like SW did against Penn
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  State last year. We saw Clemson get in and wasn't
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  deserving in my opinion. But yeah, I think I think
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  Virginia somehow, someway gets it done.
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  Maybe it's a field goal, maybe it's overtime.
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  I don't know. I think there's going to be a
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  lot of pressure. I did a lot of pressure on
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  Virginia because they know this is it, right?
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  This is a playoff game. They won in the tournament.
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  They got to win this game. I didn't they're not going to go
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  any further or be stunned if they did.
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  Duke is sitting there. They're going to if they win,
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  they're going to whine tomorrow or Monday or whenever about
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  it'll look, Hey, why didn't why didn't we get to work?
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  You're you know, you're just hushed.
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  Don't want to hear any of that. I think Virginia gets it done.
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  You're right. I haven't seen much Virginia
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  football. I did see him against Florida
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  State. I was kind of rooting for him.
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  That's kind of turning out now, you know, for an Alabama fan
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  like, well, it's been a nice thing before the state would
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  have won that game. But anyway I think Virginia get
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  it done but I don't know how much of this one I will see
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  because of what's opposite. Yeah, absolutely.
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  And that would be the Big 10 championship.
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  Trenton, you're going to give me Ohio State.
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  And I don't have to lay more than a touchdown.
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  In fact, not even close to that. I just can't get past the
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  number. I can't.
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  And the steam that's come in on Indiana?
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  It's unbelievable to me. There were sixes in the market
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  earlier this week, Yes, down to four, 4 1/2 and a lot more fours
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  out there in the market. I'm with you.
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  The only thing is a let down from Ohio.
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  State And you've been saying that all week and when you said
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  that the first time, I thought wait a second for a championship
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  game. And you know what, you're right.
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  The good. Motivation.
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  They know they're in. They know they're probably going
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  to have a buy even if they lose this football game.
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  Yeah, they did it a year ago, coming from a completely
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  different path to win four games.
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  Now it's just going to be 3. Walking around campus and every
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  student's thanking them for finally knocking off Michigan.
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  And every Indiana fan, they've been saving their money for the
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  better part of 50 years for a big game.
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  I know the get in price is over $400.00.
• 17:05
  Still, it doesn't matter. Oh yeah.
• 17:07
  I mean, it's in Indianapolis. Those people have never
• 17:09
  travelled to watch Indiana football do anything for decades
• 17:13
  and decades and decades. And now here's the opportunity.
• 17:16
  For the first time, I think Ohio State's not going to have the
• 17:18
  crowd advantage inside that building and the motivation.
• 17:21
  This is one I'm going to be sitting.
• 17:23
  I just need to see I. Was going to pick Ohio State.
• 17:25
  Now you tell You know what you make great.
• 17:27
  Points it's I think it's live bet or I'm not pre flop betting
• 17:31
  this. I just, I can't.
• 17:32
  I got to see what it looks like right away.
• 17:35
  Are you on Indiana Bama? Well, Trent took every point I
• 17:39
  had on my note card, right? I'm going to tell you, you know,
• 17:41
  motivation for Iowa State coming off of beating Michigan.
• 17:44
  They know they're in no matter what.
• 17:46
  They're going to get a buy no matter what, as they should, all
• 17:49
  right? They've been clearly the
• 17:50
  dominant team all season start to finish ever since Week 1.
• 17:55
  Listen, can Indiana line up with them?
• 17:57
  Certainly they can't. I, I do not think this Indiana
• 18:00
  team is a fraud. I do not think they are like
• 18:03
  they were last year, right? But look, yes, you would out and
• 18:08
  beat Oregon. But for everything Trent just
• 18:10
  said, it's in Indianapolis, first time ever, probably in
• 18:14
  that championship game that if you have an Ohio State or a
• 18:17
  Michigan or a one of the blue bloods, the price I just
• 18:21
  thought, again, was 550 bucks on ESPN.
• 18:24
  OK, So you're right. They're going to have the crowd
• 18:28
  behind them in a Big 10 championship game against Ohio
• 18:31
  State. Dignetti is locked up.
• 18:34
  Mendoza, probably your Heisman favorite right now.
• 18:37
  Indiana, if you want to really make a statement.
• 18:41
  And again, I think they are a national title contender, win or
• 18:44
  lose. I think they can play with
• 18:46
  anybody, line up with anybody anywhere but indoors, home state
• 18:51
  crowd behind you. This is your chance.
• 18:54
  You remember that game last year in Columbus?
• 18:56
  Was it close, right? Was it 3813?
• 18:59
  Ohio State scores with a what, 30 seconds left and kind of
• 19:03
  rubbed it in your face. All the payback you've got,
• 19:05
  right? Ohio again.
• 19:07
  Ohio State 2 best wide receivers I think in the country, yes, two
• 19:11
  of the best, yes. Anyway, best tandem in?
• 19:13
  Tandem for sure. Yeah, you got a Heisman
• 19:16
  candidate, quarterback. You want to, you know,
• 19:19
  everything lines up for you. But Indiana, you want to really
• 19:22
  make a statement, you can go into this tournament as the
• 19:25
  number one seed without question and a legit number one seed.
• 19:29
  Do it now. Put up or shut up.
• 19:31
  I think this game is close. I think Indiana wins it.
• 19:33
  I think that crowd is going to be fired up.
• 19:35
  I think Mendoza is that good. Ohio State, it's tough to put
• 19:40
  them away, right? Nobody's been able to do it
• 19:41
  since Michigan last year. Can you finish it if you get a
• 19:46
  chance, if you need a drive, if you need a stop, can you do it?
• 19:51
  I think they do. I think they get it done.
• 19:53
  I'm I'm no fan of this program as you know, bailing because of
• 19:57
  the non conference and the SEC or whatever, but I think they
• 20:00
  get it done tomorrow. Basically a home game for them,
• 20:02
  which is crazy to think when you're playing Ohio State in the
• 20:04
  conference champions game. I think they get it done and
• 20:07
  they've got no excuses, absolutely none.
• 20:09
  They they can win this game tomorrow, be a Big 10 champ
• 20:11
  going to number one seed. We've got 60 seconds left, boys.
• 20:15
  Your favorite of the game? Trent is.
• 20:18
  It is the Sunbelt Championship because I want to get eyes on
• 20:20
  James Madison. And on top of it, they have a
• 20:22
  running back named Wayne Knight. Wayne Knight, same name as the
• 20:26
  guy from Seinfeld. Yeah, he was Newman.
• 20:28
  He's all going to be watching Newman tonight and James Madison
• 20:31
  against Troy. How's that for analysis there?
• 20:33
  Bam And Bob, What game are you? What game you want to watch?
• 20:36
  Yeah, that is. Deep right there.
• 20:37
  Yeah. That's going to be mine, too.
• 20:39
  I want to see James Madison play.
• 20:40
  I want to see what they're going to look like, because if Duke
• 20:42
  does knock off Virginia tomorrow, I think I think
• 20:46
  they've got a real good shot at possibly getting in.
• 20:49
  Any other question you had? No, Notre Dame is out.
• 20:52
  Notre Dame is out, Trent. I would, absolutely.
• 20:55
  In out Notre Dame. In.
• 20:58
  In. I think they're in.
• 21:01
  We'll see. Probably.
• 21:03
  We shall. No.
• 21:05
  Yeah, well, that's another story.
• 21:07
  We'll we'll recap the weekend on Monday.
• 21:09
  Take a quick glimpse ahead at the playoff game.
• 21:11
  Baba, thanks for jumping on. Appreciate it buddy.
• 21:14
  Of course guys, take care. Enjoy talk soon.
• 21:16
  Yep, good to talk to you, Baba, Bob, Trent and I around college
• 21:18
  football. Some of the championship games
• 21:20
  this weekend. Off to Vegas.
• 21:21
  Next we'll catch up with Mike Palm, VP of operations at Circus
• 21:25
  Sports, Miller and Condon on Des Moines Sports Station 106.3
• 21:28
  KXNO. All right, 130, welcome back
• 21:35
  Miller and Condon. Iowa Sports Radio network with
• 21:37
  you until the top of the hour. Our plays of the week still to
• 21:40
  come. We have a two game lead on the
• 21:42
  boys. Trent down to two they've cut
• 21:45
  the lead to. Two, I got some work to do.
• 21:47
  Yes, you. Do I'm seven games behind you.
• 21:50
  Are you really? Yes, that's starting to get
• 21:52
  away. From ah, February's a long ways
• 21:54
  away. Let's get to Vegas.
• 21:56
  He is our buddy Mike Palm, the VP of operations at Circus
• 22:00
  Sports. And it's rodeos in town for the
• 22:03
  next week OR so. And Mike Palm joins us.
• 22:05
  Hello, Mike Palm. And I just lost him.
• 22:07
  Trent, I think I hit the wrong button.
• 22:10
  My mistake. So we'll rehook, reconnect with
• 22:13
  Mike Palm, get him back in here and get some of the numbers on
• 22:16
  some of the games taking place this weekend.
• 22:19
  I want to ask him about as well, the Sunday night game, Kansas
• 22:22
  City and Houston. What a big spot that is for both
• 22:25
  teams. Both teams with the playoff
• 22:27
  hopes and right now on the outside looking in for both of
• 22:31
  them. Does the Champions or do the AFC
• 22:34
  champions find a way to rally and get this done?
• 22:38
  Let's go to Las Vegas. Let me hit the right button this
• 22:40
  time. Here's Mike Palm.
• 22:41
  Mike, my apologies, I believe I hit the wrong button, but
• 22:44
  they're good to talk to you. How are you?
• 22:47
  Good. How are you doing?
• 22:48
  OK, fun little time, fun little story percolating here in the on
• 22:53
  our radio today and in our neighborhood.
• 22:55
  Matt Campbell looks as though he is headed to Penn State to take
• 22:58
  over the Nets. Your thoughts?
• 23:02
  Well, I have a lot of thoughts, as you know about Matt Campbell.
• 23:05
  You do not all positive. What's the press conference like
• 23:09
  when he's your eighth choice? It's an interesting press, an
• 23:13
  interesting press conference. I when you think about it, if
• 23:20
  you dive deep into it, you could make the argument that Matt
• 23:23
  Campbell is a poor man's James Franklin, the guy that doesn't
• 23:27
  win the big game. Although the big games he didn't
• 23:29
  win are not quite on the scale maybe of James Franklin's big
• 23:32
  games. I go back to the fact that in
• 23:36
  games that are closely lined and in his ten year career at Iowa
• 23:39
  State, Campbell's 9 and 32 against the spread in games
• 23:43
  where Iowa State was anywhere from a four point dog to a four
• 23:45
  point favorite. So I mean, if you're pins, they
• 23:48
  screwed up the search from the get go and the sudden firing of
• 23:51
  Franklin and now you've got players transferring out and
• 23:54
  coaches saying no. But ultimately you got to find a
• 23:57
  guy that's going to beat Ohio State next door.
• 24:00
  And I'm not sure Matt Campbell's the guy that can can do that.
• 24:04
  When we look at the slate this weekend, a whole lot of, well,
• 24:07
  it doesn't really matter the conference championship games,
• 24:10
  it feels like maybe they're going to be going the way of the
• 24:12
  dodo bird here pretty soon. And the way that this is set up,
• 24:15
  you have a number one versus #2 matchup, Indiana and Ohio State.
• 24:18
  And for both teams, doesn't matter.
• 24:20
  Where's the motivation? Certainly from the Buckeye
• 24:23
  perspective, it feels like it is.
• 24:25
  It's a bad thing for the future of these games, Mike.
• 24:28
  And when you look at it and there's a potential maybe down
• 24:31
  the road that Vegas was going to be hosting a Big 10 championship
• 24:34
  game, maybe that's off the board.
• 24:38
  Well, don't you have to have a game that crowns the conference
• 24:41
  champion, though? Doesn't that still mean
• 24:42
  something to the conference championships?
• 24:44
  Not mean anything for Indiana. I would make the argument that
• 24:49
  regardless of results, they should still be 1/2 for Indiana.
• 24:54
  You don't want to fall the four if you lose because then you get
• 24:56
  Ohio State and the semis instead of a possible championship game.
• 25:00
  I think the line is ludicrous. It opened six.
• 25:04
  It got down to 4 yesterday. I laid 4/4 and 1/2.
• 25:08
  I would lay that. I don't see it.
• 25:10
  I don't see the gap having closed.
• 25:12
  Ohio State's smallest margin of victory is 18 in the conference.
• 25:16
  That's two Rd. wins. They held them Indiana, the 2.6
• 25:20
  yards per play and 160 total yards last year when they played
• 25:24
  in late November. And as you guys know, with a
• 25:26
  little over 2 minutes to go, if Iowa converts the third and
• 25:29
  three, they're kicking a field goal on the last play the game
• 25:31
  to beat Indiana. So I haven't seen any team kind
• 25:34
  of test, test Ohio State to that level.
• 25:37
  So I still think there's a big gap.
• 25:39
  The game that means something is obviously BYU, Texas Tech, sure,
• 25:42
  because the dominoes fall and I think Notre Dame may be out at
• 25:46
  BYU or to win that game. I mean, I guess BYU even has an
• 25:49
  argument if they lose the game that they their only two losses
• 25:52
  are to Texas Tech and they have six wins over top 25 teams.
• 25:57
  But that's not going to happen you we know that.
• 26:00
  So they won't be a buffer for Notre Dame and and Miami because
• 26:06
  they have to go up or go down. BYU could Alabama, if they get
• 26:09
  beat by 14 fall between between Notre Dame and Miami?
• 26:15
  I don't know. I don't think there's a team
• 26:16
  that can be a buffer. So there could be a problem for
• 26:18
  Notre Dame. Speaking of Texas Tech, Speaking
• 26:21
  of Texas Tech, they got to be pretty happy with the route they
• 26:24
  chose and going and getting Joey McGuire to be their head coach.
• 26:28
  Is are the powers that be in Ames considering Tom Wilson?
• 26:35
  You know, I've never. Wow, that's really good, Mike.
• 26:42
  That's really good. Mcguire's a high school coach.
• 26:44
  We've seen a couple of them have phenomenal success.
• 26:46
  But recruiting in Texas is different than recruiting in
• 26:49
  Iowa. Because there's more.
• 26:50
  Yeah. I mean, at best we have 8 to 12
• 26:53
  prospects in any given year, different than Texas when he got
• 26:57
  hundreds of hundreds of kids you're choosing from.
• 27:00
  This threw it out there. Yeah, I don't know.
• 27:03
  It came to my head. Also, the question that came to
• 27:05
  my head when I heard that it was official was which would be the
• 27:09
  more exhaustive search to replace Matt Campbell or to
• 27:13
  replace Ken Miller? Well, I'm not looking forward to
• 27:17
  that. Yeah, I wish that we weren't
• 27:20
  going down this road and I was younger, but that's not the
• 27:22
  that's not the way the life is anyways.
• 27:25
  Yeah, fascinating the way it's going to go.
• 27:27
  I think it's going to be Nate Shield House, who was on the
• 27:29
  staff before. He's on the Rams staff now.
• 27:31
  We'll see where it goes, but it's going to be something to
• 27:34
  watch. And heck, one more coaching
• 27:36
  search in my career. Never is good, selfishly.
• 27:39
  So what do we see in this? What what are we seeing on the
• 27:42
  some of the other games? What about the SEC, Mike?
• 27:45
  Georgia and Alabama? Alabama jumped out to a lead.
• 27:48
  Georgia tried to catch up. They could not.
• 27:51
  What do you what do we make of this game?
• 27:52
  Numbers 2 1/2. What are you seeing in Vegas?
• 27:56
  Yeah, it got down to two. It's a tough game for me to
• 28:00
  handicap. I actually thought that Kirby
• 28:04
  got out coached in that first game.
• 28:08
  My opinion of Alabama has come down after the Oklahoma game
• 28:13
  because I don't think the quarterback is as good as maybe
• 28:15
  I thought. I thought he was the Heisman
• 28:16
  candidate, but he's not. He's not.
• 28:19
  So that means Georgia has the better quarterback.
• 28:22
  And I think Georgia, even though this is not a great defense, as
• 28:25
  the better defense, I thought it was a desperation move to go 4th
• 28:29
  down against Auburn that told you that Alabama did not think
• 28:33
  that they could hold, that they could keep Auburn out of field
• 28:36
  goal range in the final possession, right?
• 28:37
  They had to have a touchdown and it worked out for them
• 28:40
  ultimately. But I think George is better
• 28:43
  here. If you told me I had to do
• 28:45
  something on the game, I'd laid the.
• 28:48
  Two to the NFL and before that, the circuit contest delivered
• 28:52
  again Thursday and the carnage that we saw with all the
• 28:56
  favorites going down, one of the two entries that didn't get
• 28:59
  their entry in had used all the favorites.
• 29:02
  So they would have had to use one of the underdogs in that
• 29:04
  game. Just absolutely devastating the
• 29:06
  way that that played out for that person it every single year
• 29:10
  this contest, Mike, it is incredible and what we get when
• 29:14
  it felt, man, there's just too many people left.
• 29:16
  How exciting can this thing be. And then Thursday and Black
• 29:18
  Friday happen. It's wild.
• 29:21
  Now we go from 900 to 49 on the Thanksgiving pics in Survivor
• 29:26
  and then we lost another 4 on the Rams.
• 29:27
  So we're at 45 heading into this weekend.
• 29:29
  And then Granicimo's over. There were 66 entries left, 33
• 29:36
  took Baltimore on Thanksgiving evening and got eliminated and
• 29:39
  the other three were on the Eagles.
• 29:40
  What was interesting was on on Black Friday I was waiting for
• 29:44
  the hedges from and more more so I was thinking about folks that
• 29:49
  had the Eagles taken +7 with the Bears.
• 29:53
  What I didn't think about really contemplate was what actually
• 29:56
  happened was one of the players that had Baltimore and was
• 29:59
  eliminated. You know, made a bet to win
• 30:01
  150,000 on the Eagles on the money line, knowing that if he
• 30:05
  lost, he's still going to take 650,000 on the contest, and if
• 30:10
  he didn't, he made 50,000 over his entry fee.
• 30:13
  Brilliant. Didn't even think about that,
• 30:14
  right? I didn't even think about from
• 30:16
  that perspective, but that was the hedge that we took.
• 30:18
  That's brilliant. Well, well done.
• 30:20
  That's why these guys get in these type of contests.
• 30:22
  They play at that level, no doubt about it.
• 30:24
  Well, Trent mentioned the NFL and the NFL slate.
• 30:26
  There's some absolutely massive games, including one that with
• 30:30
  our regional teams, the Packers and the Bears.
• 30:32
  I think you're going to do pretty good right on this game.
• 30:34
  M325 our time on Sunday. Your thoughts on that game?
• 30:38
  What are you seeing? Sure, America's Game of the
• 30:41
  week, we're not seeing any movement.
• 30:44
  The Packers were 6 1/2 -, 120. Now it's -115 So it just tells
• 30:48
  you we're closer to seven than 6.
• 30:53
  What? Both teams played very well.
• 30:55
  The Bears do benefit from a lot of turnover luck or they've
• 31:00
  created their own luck there. It concerns me that over his
• 31:02
  last three games, Caleb Williams completion percentage is only
• 31:05
  50%. In a league where it averages
• 31:07
  close to 70. I think that's a concern.
• 31:10
  I don't know if the Bears are going to be able to run the ball
• 31:12
  like they did against Philadelphia, although I
• 31:14
  wouldn't thought they would have been able to do that to
• 31:15
  Philadelphia. The Packers defense has been
• 31:17
  outstanding the last three weeks and once again I'm going to tell
• 31:20
  you this I the further it goes, the more it's not a law of small
• 31:25
  numbers and not in a sample size.
• 31:27
  Jordan Love is thrown 32 touchdowns and one interception
• 31:31
  in weeks 12 through 17 in his career.
• 31:33
  It just doesn't get any better than that.
• 31:35
  So I have to lean Packers. I hope the Bears keep it
• 31:38
  competitive. Look, the Bears need to win two
• 31:40
  out of three. They need to win once against
• 31:42
  the Packers in these two games in three weeks and beat the
• 31:45
  Browns in between. And you will go to the last two
• 31:47
  weeks still with the lead in the division and no worse than the
• 31:50
  two seed in the NFC. I think the game the Sunday
• 31:53
  after Christmas in San Francisco is almost impossible.
• 31:56
  I think that's their hardest game of the year, harder than
• 31:58
  this week. I just think it was bad last
• 32:01
  night. If the Cowboys could somehow
• 32:02
  beat the Lions, maybe that game means nothing to the Lions in
• 32:04
  the final week, but we'll see. It's been an amazing first year
• 32:08
  turn around for Ben Johnson and the Bears.
• 32:10
  Mike Palm, Iowa native VP of operations at Circa.
• 32:13
  Download the new and improved Circa Sports Iowa app Sunday
• 32:17
  night Chiefs, Texans Mike, I'm looking at these betting splits
• 32:21
  and I know some places you go. I look at wager talk.
• 32:23
  Some places the betting splits are not exactly what it is, but
• 32:27
  I'm seeing 85% of the money on the Texans, 72% of the tickets.
• 32:32
  I look at you guys at circle, what they have listed here, 87%
• 32:36
  of the money on the Texans. Do you remember a time the
• 32:38
  Chiefs are not getting much public money?
• 32:41
  It's crazy to look at this with the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 32:46
  Yeah, I mean, they bit me a couple times, Trent and and Ken
• 32:51
  and I need the Texans in the future.
• 32:53
  So this is a huge game. This is a this is a huge.
• 32:56
  I might, I might make a little monetization here and take the
• 33:00
  Chiefs actually just to protect my Texans.
• 33:03
  Take it a little bit. I will say this though, just
• 33:07
  like UNLV at Boise tonight for the Mountain West is a game that
• 33:12
  UNLV never wins. Host this game, Texans at
• 33:15
  Chiefs. This is the game the Texans
• 33:16
  don't win and I don't know if they can overcome the ghost of
• 33:18
  Bill O'Brien up 24 to nothing in the playoffs going forward on
• 33:22
  4th down. I don't know if they'll over
• 33:24
  overcome it so, but if I do it, it's simply as a as a hedge to
• 33:28
  my future position on the Texas. Do you like Boise tonight?
• 33:33
  Yeah, I do. I laid.
• 33:35
  I like 4, I like 4 1/2. That number was lower than that.
• 33:39
  I can't believe you know it was 13 when they played in the
• 33:42
  regular season. Really.
• 33:43
  It's different and they beat and they beat him by 21.
• 33:47
  Why would it? Does the line be so small and
• 33:48
  you had no weather? It was good weather when they
• 33:51
  played in Boise. This.
• 33:51
  The line makes zero sense to me. And it's going to be like winter
• 33:55
  conditions tonight, is that it? Right.
• 33:58
  Yeah, cold, possible snow last year, if you remember it snowed
• 34:01
  and UNLV couldn't score. This is just everything's
• 34:04
  against UNLVI. Don't know if they think that
• 34:07
  UNLV is still alive for a playoff.
• 34:09
  It's a it's possible. They have to have about 30
• 34:12
  things happen I think for that and beat Boise convincingly.
• 34:17
  But before we go, I just want to say it's not too late to bet
• 34:21
  Jasper Walstead for Calder 10 this.
• 34:24
  Guy is it. He's something.
• 34:25
  For three weeks, the wall of Saint Paul, he's still You can
• 34:28
  still find him at 9:00 to 1. He was 40 to 1 before he beat
• 34:31
  Colorado 2 Saturdays ago. But this kid is unbelievable.
• 34:35
  Yeah. No, it's great for the Wild.
• 34:36
  It's good for business here in our market with obviously the
• 34:39
  Wild and the AAA are their HL team rather downtown.
• 34:43
  Hey, how did Missouri go? I saw that at one point there
• 34:46
  was a quarter of a million Missourians on their app on
• 34:49
  opening day, which it was on December 1st.
• 34:52
  How was Missouri for Circa? Well, it was, it was a nice
• 34:56
  start and we're getting new sign ups and and you know, folks
• 35:00
  funding and betting every day. It's hard to compete when
• 35:03
  FanDuel gave away $8 million in pre bets the first day.
• 35:07
  That's that's the reality of it for me.
• 35:09
  It was a thrilling trip. We got to have dinner with the
• 35:12
  the Blues executive Sunday night, including their team
• 35:15
  president, and of course, go to the the Blues Ducks game on
• 35:19
  Monday. And we got to play in the snow
• 35:21
  on Monday as there was about 2 1/2, three inches coming down.
• 35:23
  You would have thought it was San Antonio.
• 35:25
  Nobody could go to work, nobody could drive.
• 35:27
  They were closing bars at 4 PMI mean, come on guys.
• 35:30
  I mean, it's not that far South of Iowa, but I had fun playing
• 35:33
  in the snow. Yeah, that's awesome.
• 35:35
  Going back to the day, good stuff, by the way, since we we
• 35:39
  talked about celebrating so much and how good he is.
• 35:41
  I got to give credit to Bedard. He's a much better player this
• 35:44
  year than he was last year. He was the goal he scored.
• 35:49
  Unbelievable in Vegas. Yeah, the kid needs to learn to
• 35:53
  have some sort of a personality. He's just he's he's.
• 35:56
  He's Connor McDavid. Flatline person he's got, he
• 36:00
  needs to be able to open up and be more marketable, especially
• 36:03
  with kids. I think that's very important to
• 36:05
  the Blackhawks. Yeah, and Celebrini does have
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  that personality. Jim, Mike Palm.
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  Good stuff, Mike. We'll talk to you next Friday.
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  Have a great weekend. Thank you.
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  Yeah, good to talk to you. Mike Pom, VP of operations at
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  Circa Sports. Our picks are next.
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  Miller and Condon glad you're with us as we talk sports with
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  you on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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  Off the bench, who knows football better?
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  The war wages on. It's time for the afternoon
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  pickup sponsored by Circa Sports on One O 6.3, KXNO and the Iowa
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  Sports Radio Network. I'm Millian Condon.
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  Welcome back our final segment of the week our picks we go head
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  to head with the boys in the afternoon off the bench we have
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  a two game lead on Lucas and Sean.
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  I'm 1 1/2 games up on Lucas. How many am I up on you in our
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  hand 77 and next week we go strictly NFL or we do whatever
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  we. Want whoa, you got college
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  games? There'll be FCS games going on.
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  Army. Navy.
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  Army. Navy.
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  All right, Trent, I listen to you and Bama today.
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  I'm afraid my I want to change my picks and I'm not going to
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  I'm going to stick with it, damn it.
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  Here's what we've got because I have the tee box this week.
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  I'm going to play a couple of of the championship games in
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  college football. Of course, the games tomorrow
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  night I'm going to play both of the ACC and the Big 10 and to
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  the surprise will certainly turn out of my Co host Trent Condon.
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  I'm taking the favorites in both Virginia over Duke.
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  Virginia, I just, the football guards are not going to let Duke
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  win this game. They're not give me Virginia,
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  the Cavs, I will take them laying 3 1/2.
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  There's a 3 1/2 out there for Ohio State.
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  It's unbelievable to me that I'm going to get the Buckeyes and
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  have to lay just a half a point more than a field goal.
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  Are you kidding me? I thought this number would be
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  north of the touchdown. I did.
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  I get it. I think trenching point is valid
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  as far as a little bit kind of a let down.
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  Maybe the game is meaningless. They're both going to get a buy.
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  They're going to be, you know, one and four, one and three.
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  Winner gets the one seed. But I'll take the Buckeyes and
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  lay the 3 1/2 to the NFL. Speaking of lay than 3 1/2, I'm
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  going to do that Sunday night. This Kansas City Chiefs team,
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  they're at home. That's the reason I'm going to
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  take the Chiefs and this team is are they going to essentially be
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  out of it the first Sunday in December?
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  I just can't wrap my arms around that yet.
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  I love Houston's defense. I think they're they're probably
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  the best defense in the NFLI believe that Kansas City's got a
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  nice defense and Kansas City is not a good offensive line, which
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  worries me. But I'm going to take Patrick
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  Mahomes to find a little bit more magic, at least for this
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  week. I will take them for my first
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  pick in the NFL. Then I'll take the Broncos.
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  They're going to Las Vegas. Vegas is thrown in the towel.
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  They might score a little bit, but I think Bo Nixon Company
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  will have their way. Denver's all out there in front
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  of them. They've got the tiebreaker over
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  New England. Should they finish with
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  identical records. I'll take Denver, lay the seven
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  and a half. My best bet of the week is one
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  of the two teams I think it'll legitimately win the Super Bowl
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  and they're both in the NFC and they're both in the a the NFC
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  West. One of them is Seattle Seahawks
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  and I does. I don't even have to lay a
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  touchdown for the Seahawks to beat Kurt Cousins.
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  Talk about washed. 6 1/2 is all I'm laying.
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  I'll take Seattle -6 1/2 over Atlanta.
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  So 4 favorites for your weekend shopping.
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  Seahawks My best bet Denver, Kansas City, Ohio State,
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  Virginia TC. West Virginia, Western Michigan,
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  Excuse me, laying 1 1/2 against Miami, Ohio, Boise -5 in the
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  championship games. Bengals +6 Steelers plus 6 1/2
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  Jaguars. My best bet +2.
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  Did not know we were this short on time.
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  I apologize for cutting you short.
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  We'll see you next Monday off the benches next.
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  Thanks for being with us.