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The Kenny Report | 25 February · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the Sky New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. Tonight, Donald Trump gives his State
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Speaker 1: of the Union address and guess what he gives himself
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Speaker 1: a rap.
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Speaker 2: Our nation is back, bigger, better, richer and stronger than
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Speaker 2: ever before.
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Speaker 1: We'll analyze all that with Tom Switzer. Also after evacuating
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Speaker 1: the lodge last night, Anthony Albernezi gets heckled by protesters
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Speaker 1: today and he wants everyone else to turn the temperature down.
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Speaker 1: The Climate Council blames colon Gas for power price rises,
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Speaker 1: but the new South Wales labor government reveals the brutal
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Speaker 1: truth about the renewables transition and electricity prices. Plus Pauline Hanson,
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Speaker 1: Esther Krak Who, Justin Smith and Denika de Giorgio. Let's
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Speaker 1: get into it. You won't believe the madness, the utter
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Speaker 1: delusion we're dealing with when it comes to labor, Greens, governments,
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Speaker 1: and electricity and climate change. Let's start with the grand
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Speaker 1: delusionist in chief, the Prime Minister. Listen to this in
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Speaker 1: Melbourne today.
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Speaker 3: Building new renewable generational storage backed by affordable Australian gas
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Speaker 3: is viral to bring down bills here and now, and
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Speaker 3: we need to go beyond that to create an abundance
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Speaker 3: of cheap, clean energy that we can use as a
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Speaker 3: source of enduring competitive advantage that is vital for manufacturing
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Speaker 3: and for securing Australia as place on the digital frontier.
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Speaker 1: Now, at least he got one thing right. We need
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Speaker 1: cheap and abundant energy in order to have a manufacturing
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Speaker 1: economy and grow our new digital and AI industries. Abundant,
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Speaker 1: affordable energy is what our economy has been built on.
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Speaker 1: It's what's underpinned our entire society and it's also a
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Speaker 1: prerequisite for a decent future. But that's where al Benezi
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Speaker 1: departs from reality. He completely avoids the fact that all
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Speaker 1: he's done is drive prices up. His renewable energy crusade
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Speaker 1: is crushing industry and manufacturing with higher power prices. It's
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Speaker 1: crunching small businesses with higher bills, and it's smashing households too.
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Speaker 1: We all know that labour knows this. That's why it's
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Speaker 1: thrown good money after bad, subsidizing heavy industry to make
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Speaker 1: up for cat power costs and subsidizing households and businesses too. Remember,
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Speaker 1: labor promised this.
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Speaker 3: Reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars,
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Speaker 3: reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars.
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Speaker 4: By twenty twenty five, two hundred and seventy five dollars
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Speaker 4: a year.
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Speaker 3: One hundred and seventy five dollars a year will get.
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Speaker 4: Power prices down by two hundred and seventy five dollars
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Speaker 4: a year.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Labor has delivered the absolute opposite to what it promised.
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Speaker 1: I used a bit of AI myself today to check
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Speaker 1: average household prices over the past four years. They've increased
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Speaker 1: by thirty one percent in New South Wales and Queensland.
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Speaker 1: That that's an increase in cash dollars of more than
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Speaker 1: five hundred dollars a year. And that's seven hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty dollars a year more than Labor promised. Labour's power
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Speaker 1: price promise has been broken threefold. New South Wales is
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Speaker 1: now caught up with South Australia as the states with
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Speaker 1: the most expensive electricity. But Albaneze's plan is to spend
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Speaker 1: billions of dollars more doubling down on his renewables plan,
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Speaker 1: including by subsidizing household solar and batteries. This is not
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Speaker 1: some inner city crusade.
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Speaker 3: It is a success story being written in the outer
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Speaker 3: suburb and in regional Australia. There are simple fact, ten
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Speaker 3: times more batteries in Frankston than there are in Tuak.
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Speaker 3: A stranger making the practical choice, and they're backing the
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Speaker 3: proven technology labor.
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Speaker 1: The Greens and the tills and their media barrickers never
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Speaker 1: seem to pick up on the obvious floor of their
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Speaker 1: cheap renewable energy argument. They boast about how much renewable
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Speaker 1: energy there is and how much money they're spending on it,
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Speaker 1: and they say it will make power cheaper. Yet the
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Speaker 1: more they roll out, the more expensive it becomes. They're
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Speaker 1: in denial, denial of the physics of the engineering, the
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Speaker 1: economics and the reality. The New South Wales's Climbate and
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Speaker 1: Energy Minister today she's given the game away reluctantly under
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Speaker 1: questioning yesterday when her boast about cheaper wholesale prices was called.
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Speaker 5: If the wholesale price is halved, why are people paying
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Speaker 5: twenty percent more on their energy bills? No answer, no answer,
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Speaker 5: I'm actually reading a note.
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Speaker 1: Look if you look.
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Speaker 5: Again, minister, if the wholesale price has fallen in the
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Speaker 5: last two months. Why are people paying twenty percent more
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Speaker 5: this year than they were last year.
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Speaker 6: Because the way in which we are rebuilding the system
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Speaker 6: means that there are network costs and that are added
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Speaker 6: to the.
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Speaker 1: System, is the answer. Yep, she said the quiet part
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Speaker 1: out loud, didn't she It's the renewables rollout and the
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Speaker 1: transmission rollout and the battery rollout that's adding to the costs,
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Speaker 1: and those costs just won't come down in the foreseeable
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Speaker 1: future because even more of this investment is needed and
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Speaker 1: every dollar spent has to make a turn and guess what,
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Speaker 1: it all still needs firming that is backing up with
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Speaker 1: either coal or gas or hydro. So why would people
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Speaker 1: do this? Why would they do this to our energy grid,
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Speaker 1: to our economy, to our people. Well, one reason is
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Speaker 1: to plicate the climate activists, the sorts of people who
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Speaker 1: heckled the Prime minister today.
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Speaker 3: Okay, hospital, I visited small businesses in Bayswater, even held
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Speaker 3: an impromptu community meeting people city to visit rightly famous
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Speaker 3: for its major events were drought, bushfires, and floods.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, politicians of the socialist left like Albo are duty
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Speaker 1: bound to try to keep the climate lunatics happy, and
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Speaker 1: then there's even more delusion. Sadly, these people labor greens
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Speaker 1: and tills, well, they seem to actually think that they
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Speaker 1: can save the planet.
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Speaker 4: I'm concerned about all of them.
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Speaker 1: Are we taking enough action on climate change?
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Speaker 6: Are we leaving the planet in a better state than
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Speaker 6: it is? How long am I going to be the
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Speaker 6: minister here in this government that's serious about taking that?
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Speaker 5: And what actions can we undertake? That's what I do
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Speaker 5: every day really.
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Speaker 1: But fiddling with our even fiddling with our emissions, or
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Speaker 1: even eliminating all of Australia's one percent and shrinking share
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Speaker 1: of global emissions can't possibly change the global climate, especially
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Speaker 1: when global emissions continue to rise. That's just the fact
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Speaker 1: of the matter, the scientific fact. Yet these people think
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Speaker 1: they're saving the planet. Their delusion inflicts enormous costs on
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Speaker 1: Australian families and it undermines our economic future, all pain
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Speaker 1: for no gain. It defies logic. But listen here and
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Speaker 1: you'll find they do it, at least in part to
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Speaker 1: appease their climate activists kids.
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Speaker 7: Noting your comments earlier that you, as the Climate Minister,
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Speaker 7: are committed to reducing emissions and that you do view
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Speaker 7: it as urgent, absolutely, and I fully.
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Speaker 1: Trust me leave the dinner table. Trust me, said the
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Speaker 1: Climate and Energy Minister. My kids don't let me leave
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Speaker 1: the dinner table. It's also funny and jolly, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: This family of climate zealots pretends they're saving the planet
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Speaker 1: and the pain faols hardest on low income families. And
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Speaker 1: they used to say Labor was the workers party. As
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Speaker 1: you would have heard, the Prime Minister was evacuated from
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Speaker 1: the lodge in Canberra last night because of a bomb threat.
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Speaker 1: Now this is terrible. It's the sort of security scare
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Speaker 1: we've become used to, but we should never accept. No
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Speaker 1: one should receive threats, no community, no politician, and no
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Speaker 1: person much less actually be exposed to violent attacks. Still,
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Speaker 1: when I saw how the Prime Minister addressed this issue today,
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Speaker 1: I've got to say it made me pretty angry.
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Speaker 3: I think it's just a reminder take every opportunity to
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Speaker 3: tell people turn the heat down for goodness sake. You
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Speaker 3: know we can't take these things for granted.
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Speaker 1: Turn it down, Turn the temperature down. Now he wants
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Speaker 1: the temperature turned down. Let me remind you that some
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Speaker 1: of us have been urging, begging, pleading for the Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister to take a stand against hatred, to turn the
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Speaker 1: heat down for more than two years since October the eighth,
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. Actually, when we saw this, I'm smiling
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Speaker 1: and I'm happy, I'm in hated. It's a day of
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Speaker 1: courage Prime And if that wasn't a clear enough sign
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Speaker 1: that action was needed, we saw this the very next night.
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Speaker 1: Many of us commentators, opposition politicians, members of the community,
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Speaker 1: Jewish community leaders who have been calling on the Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister to turn down the temperature on this stuff just
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Speaker 1: about every day since then. The temperature has been rising
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Speaker 1: in this country every single day between the October the
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Speaker 1: seventh atrocities in Israel and the slaughter of fifteen innocent
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Speaker 1: people at Bondai on December the fourteenth last year. Where
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Speaker 1: was the Prime Minister when it came to turning down
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Speaker 1: the heat as people marched every weekend calling for interfada,
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Speaker 1: that is, armed uprising and terrorism against Israel and Jews,
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Speaker 1: calling to eliminate Israel from the river to the sea,
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Speaker 1: where was the Prime Minister then, Well, I'll tell you
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Speaker 1: he was tacitly encouraging them. He was echoing the rhetoric
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Speaker 1: of the haters demonizing Israel and echoing their claims, even
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Speaker 1: after tens of thousands of people marched across the Harbor Bridge,
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Speaker 1: some of them waving the banners of Islamist terrorist organizations,
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Speaker 1: some of them marching under a poster of the Supreme
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Speaker 1: Leader of Iran, the supreme global funder of Islamist terrorism,
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Speaker 1: and some of them chanting for death, death to the
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Speaker 1: IDF in which most Israelis serve. Here, after all that
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Speaker 1: hatred was paraded, here's what the Prime Minister said.
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Speaker 3: Yesterday's march was peaceful and was an opportunity for people
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Speaker 3: to express their concern about what happening in Gaza and
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Speaker 3: the images that we've seen. It's not surprising that so
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Speaker 3: many Australians have been affected in order to want to
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Speaker 3: show their concern.
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Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Instead of telling them they're wrong to call for
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Speaker 1: the elimination of Israel, instead of telling them that the
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Speaker 1: tales about an apartheid state are lies, that the propaganda
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Speaker 1: about genocide is lies, that the propaganda about Israel targeting
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Speaker 1: civilians and targeting civilians and children is lies. Instead of
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Speaker 1: telling people the facts, he endorsed this demonization of Israel
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Speaker 1: This didn't turn down the heat. This poured petrol on
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Speaker 1: the fire. What would you expect, I suppose from a
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Speaker 1: bloke who just a few years back was in the
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Speaker 1: crowds beying against Israel with helic Just shocking and in
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Speaker 1: the middle of all the hate of the past couple
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Speaker 1: of years, what did Alberizi do. He recognized the non
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Speaker 1: existent state of Palestine, a terrorist bad land currently run
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Speaker 1: by Hummas and Fatah and Islamic Jihad and other factions
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Speaker 1: of Islamist extremists. He recognized it effectively rewarding terrorism, and
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Speaker 1: he won praise from Hummas, one of the world's most
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Speaker 1: bloodthirsty terrorist groups. Yet today Alberanzi says, turned down the heat,
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister. People have been begging you, The Australian Jewish
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Speaker 1: community has been pleading with you to turn down the
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Speaker 1: heat for more than two years. Now. You have failed them.
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Speaker 1: You have failed the country. Until you stand up against
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Speaker 1: hate with strength, you know, acting like a leader, it
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Speaker 1: will only continue to fester. Just on all that, I've
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Speaker 1: got to talk to you about that incredible documentary last
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Speaker 1: night from Sharry Markson and produced by Alex Garripoli Bondi,
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Speaker 1: A timeline of terror was tough viewing, but also inspiring.
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Speaker 1: To start with. We got a sense of how one
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Speaker 1: of the happiest places in the country was turned into
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Speaker 1: a horrific killing field in a fateful instant and a warning.
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Speaker 1: This stuff is pretty confronting.
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Speaker 8: The kids were running around, they were chasing the bubbles,
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Speaker 8: they were getting balloons made just a regular Hanoka party
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Speaker 8: that we enjoy every single year.
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Speaker 1: Think you're trying to.
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Speaker 9: Skip the security man, We'll say you're going to eat
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Speaker 9: by the monsters.
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Speaker 1: You know, the silent.
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Speaker 10: There's been a studio with someone who's been shot next
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Speaker 10: to me here, okay, I need you guys to come quick.
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Speaker 1: We saw and heard gripping details about terrible injuries, wasted lives,
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Speaker 1: the twists of fate, some fortunate, others drastically unlucky. And
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Speaker 1: we heard about heroes, more heroes than we could dare
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Speaker 1: hope for.
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Speaker 8: Borus tackled the elder shooter in the white pants, briefly
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Speaker 8: disarming him. They both then hit the ground. Sofia was nearby.
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Speaker 8: She runs to help her husband of thirty four years.
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Speaker 8: Boris gets to his feet, now holding the rifle. Both
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Speaker 8: Brus and Sophia were then killed in cold blood. There's
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Speaker 8: little doubt they're heroic actions, and the fatal shots that
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Speaker 8: killed them sent out a warning that saved life.
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Speaker 1: Yes, some heroes died saving others. Others survived multiple gun shots.
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Speaker 1: They all saved the lives of innocence. Pinned down by gunfire, he.
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Speaker 8: Was closing in on the terrified and defenseless families huddled
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Speaker 8: inside the festival. I like you, I like you, and
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Speaker 8: Ahmed managed to disarm Sajid, and here, dressed in red,
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Speaker 8: is gefen bit on, a young Israeli bravely running in
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Speaker 8: to help Ahmed, but the shooter on the bridge, twenty
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Speaker 8: four year old Navid, fires back. You can see the
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Speaker 8: moment gefen Is shot. Sajid then starts retreating back to
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Speaker 8: the bridge when an incredibly courageous Reuven Morrison moves in
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Speaker 8: even closer.
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Speaker 1: Reuven was shot dead the other The two suffered terrible injuries. Civilians,
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Speaker 1: ambulance officers, surf life savers and police instantly and selflessly
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Speaker 1: were brave.
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Speaker 11: A female police woman got out, she said, yelled across
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Speaker 11: um to me and she said, I've been shot twice
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Speaker 11: and okay, I've got to do some So I ran.
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Speaker 8: Over Bondai lifeguard Tommy Woodriff ran across the road to
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Speaker 8: the police officer. So after she was here, what did
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Speaker 8: she do?
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Speaker 11: So once I patted her down, made sure she was okay,
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Speaker 11: and you know, Toldally you're sweet. I remember saying you're sweet,
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Speaker 11: You're sweet, and felt that, you know, the bullet hadn't
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Speaker 11: gone through. She got herself together and she took one
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Speaker 11: a couple of steps, stood up and took two shots
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Speaker 11: and yeah, it was gutsy.
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Speaker 1: Thinger was saying, look, this stuff gives you so much
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Speaker 1: faith in your fellow Australians. So what I mentioned too,
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Speaker 1: who will be passed over by most people. I've known
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Speaker 1: both of them for many years. They're both mates of mine.
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Speaker 1: One is the Liberal MP for the area and now
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Speaker 1: the state opposition leader, Kelly Sloane. She was at another
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Speaker 1: hunniker event nearby and when the shooting began, instead of
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Speaker 1: heading for the safety of home, she jumped into an
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Speaker 1: ambulance and into the fray.
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Speaker 7: I don't talk about this much.
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Speaker 1: There were people on the.
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Speaker 7: Ground everywhere, so I went in and I saw a
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Speaker 7: guy from the surf club. He said, grab some bandages
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Speaker 7: and plug the holes. I went to the first person
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Speaker 7: I saw on the ground, and it was a lady
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Speaker 7: and she had people already plugging the holes. But what
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Speaker 7: she didn't have was someone holding her hand.
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Speaker 1: And so I.
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Speaker 7: Remember holding her hand and saying, my name's Kelly.
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Speaker 1: I'm here with you.
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Speaker 7: I'm holding your hand, I'm with you. I'm not going
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Speaker 7: to leave you. And she didn't make it, you know, and.
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Speaker 1: Maria incredible stuff. And I also want to mention another
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Speaker 1: person who was at that other Hannaker event and instead
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Speaker 1: of running away, ran to the front line. That is,
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Speaker 1: of course, my colleague Shari Marks and her brave reporting
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Speaker 1: that night, relentless reporting since, and of course the confronting,
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Speaker 1: detailed documentary we saw last night. Well, they've chronicled Australia's
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Speaker 1: dark as day and the inspirational heros and heroism as well.
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Speaker 1: And this is crucial not just for us to know
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Speaker 1: today but also for the history, of course. But I
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Speaker 1: want to finish on what I think is the most
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Speaker 1: troubling and telling insight from this documentary. It goes to
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Speaker 1: the motivation why innocent people were gunned down, why a
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Speaker 1: daughter lost her.
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Speaker 12: Father And I saw his face the minute he picked
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Speaker 12: up the blanket. I knew exactly what happened. I knew
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Speaker 12: exactly what my dad went through. And he went through
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Speaker 12: it just because being he's a Jew, just because of that,
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Speaker 12: nothing else.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is that simple and that evil. A mother
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Speaker 1: shielded her little boy from the rising tide of antisemitism,
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Speaker 1: protecting his innocence, and then he was caught in the
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Speaker 1: middle of this atrocity. I ran down here and.
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Speaker 3: I took him inside here, and we went as far
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Speaker 3: up against the wall as possible, and I was just.
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Speaker 1: Over the top of him. Were were crowds down on
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Speaker 1: the floor.
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Speaker 9: I just knew straight away. I just knew that it
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Speaker 9: was Hanna Kat and I started screaming, where's my son?
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Speaker 1: Where's my son.
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Speaker 8: Thanks to this incredible footage captured by onlookers can now
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Speaker 8: see exactly where Ronald and her son were hiding, directly
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Speaker 8: beneath the bridge from where the deadly rampage was unfolding.
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Speaker 9: We took our son in. He was shaking, maybe for
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Speaker 9: an hour. I think it was adrenaline. And when he
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Speaker 9: calmed down, like the first thing, like, when he was
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Speaker 9: sort of more calm, we were lying in our bed.
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Speaker 9: He said to me, Mom, why would someone shoot an
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Speaker 9: old man because he was under the bridge and that's
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Speaker 9: all he didn't see everything inside. All he saw was
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Speaker 9: one man with an injury.
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Speaker 10: In his leg.
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Speaker 9: He said, why would someone shoot an old man? And
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Speaker 9: he said, Mom, I no, it was because we were
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Speaker 9: an calm.
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Speaker 1: Heartbreaking. Isn't it unjust and unfair? But the hatred is here,
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Speaker 1: it's around us. Were either accepted or we defeat it.
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Speaker 1: There are no other choices to mention that. If you
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Speaker 1: want to catch up on that documentary, you can watch
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Speaker 1: Sherry Markson's Bondai A Timeline of Terror via the Sky
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Speaker 1: News Australia app or our website, or you can scan
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Speaker 1: this QR code on your screen rewinded back later. We'll
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Speaker 1: leave it up there for a while. Scan that QR
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Speaker 1: code and you go straight to watching that documentary on replay.
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Speaker 1: Let's move on to federal politics now, and One Nation
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Speaker 1: leader Pauline Hanson, the Woman of the Moment, joins us
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Speaker 1: live again from Queensland. Pauline, your polling success it just
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Speaker 1: continues to dominate the national conversation. The Sky News Pulse
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Speaker 1: poll our latest poll shows that you're twenty four percent.
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Speaker 1: Now that is down for but it's still significant it's
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Speaker 1: still ahead of the Coalition and interestingly, Labor down below
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Speaker 1: thirty percent for the first time. So this shows that
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Speaker 1: you've turned federal politics into a three horse race.
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Speaker 13: Well, we've turned politics into the fact that people actually
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Speaker 13: have an alternative now to vote. And I believe that
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Speaker 13: one nation has been setting the agenda for the other
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Speaker 13: two political parties where they've just been disregarded. The Australian
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Speaker 13: people out there listening to their concerns and they're realizing
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Speaker 13: that if they want to hold on to their voters,
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Speaker 13: they really need to put out decent policies and start
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Speaker 13: representing the Australian people.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, some of your policies are There's one I want
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Speaker 1: to ask you about straight up, and that is income splitting.
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Speaker 1: People are talking about that again. I know you've proposed
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Speaker 1: it for a long while, but this is not a
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Speaker 1: new idea. This was looked at so often during the
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Speaker 1: Howard government years, but they considered it was too expensive,
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Speaker 1: that it would cost too much to the federal revenue coffers.
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Speaker 1: Have you costed what revenue splitting would do for their
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Speaker 1: revenue streams of the federal government, Chris.
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Speaker 13: We haven't because we're mine a party and we weren't
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Speaker 13: a parliamentary party just prior to Barnaby and on Board,
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Speaker 13: we don't have these avenues open to us to have
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Speaker 13: anything costed. So now that we are a parliamentary party,
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Speaker 13: I have been advised that that is available to us
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Speaker 13: now to have things costed, and it's expected of us
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Speaker 13: been a parliamentary party.
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Speaker 1: Now yeah, well you got to get the Parliamentary Budget
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Speaker 1: Office to cost that. Then it's going to cost too much.
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Speaker 1: I mean, as you're saying, then you've been pushing a
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Speaker 1: policy whose cost is unknown, so kind of it gets real.
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Speaker 13: Hold on a minute, Chris, Hold on a minute. You
24:30
Speaker 13: opened up your program saying that the Labor Party said
24:33
Speaker 13: they're going to save two hundred and seventy five dollars
24:35
Speaker 13: a year in in electricity costs. Well now it's more
24:38
Speaker 13: than doubled. People are saying, how many of these other
24:41
Speaker 13: things have been costed? Tell me about the snowy scheme
24:45
Speaker 13: that was supposed to cost two million dollars two billion dollars.
24:48
Speaker 1: Now it's going to blow.
24:49
Speaker 13: Out to forty billion by the time they do the
24:52
Speaker 13: transmission lines. So don't have a go on us that
24:54
Speaker 13: we haven't costed anything.
24:55
Speaker 1: Actually, it will help a.
24:57
Speaker 13: Lot because it'll because it will keep these people time,
25:00
Speaker 13: these parents' home, which will save us in child care
25:03
Speaker 13: as well, which is our government's opened up. Now anyone
25:06
Speaker 13: can get free childcare in this country for a few
25:09
Speaker 13: hours a week, you know, so many hours a week, Pauline,
25:12
Speaker 13: just on this.
25:15
Speaker 1: As you know, I've been critical of Labor relentlessly about
25:18
Speaker 1: what they've done with energy and the broken promise. I've
25:21
Speaker 1: also been critical of the Coalition and Labor over snowy
25:24
Speaker 1: two point zero and the constant cost blowouts. I can't
25:27
Speaker 1: keep being critical of those and not point out that
25:30
Speaker 1: you're proposing a massive taxation change here, but it's uncosted.
25:36
Speaker 1: It's uncosted.
25:37
Speaker 13: But if you have a look at it other savings
25:40
Speaker 13: in the budget, which is ninety billion a year, and
25:43
Speaker 13: to bring down electricity by twenty percent immediately, if we
25:46
Speaker 13: actually followed our policies. So I suggest to people go
25:49
Speaker 13: and have a look at our policies. You know, I
25:53
Speaker 13: can't think of the same Christ and he's actually come
25:55
Speaker 13: out and said and they're really good policies. Adam krisch
25:58
Speaker 13: And has come out and said really good policies on
26:01
Speaker 13: one nation's website and other people are crediting us with
26:04
Speaker 13: good policies. Chris, we will have these things costed by
26:08
Speaker 13: all means. But it is a policy that we need
26:11
Speaker 13: to look at, and I intend to look at further
26:13
Speaker 13: taxation relief to the strands out there. They can go
26:17
Speaker 13: and work extra hours, more than thirty eight hours a
26:19
Speaker 13: week and not be tax of the hilt. In the
26:21
Speaker 13: last what since two thousand and seven, we've actually had
26:25
Speaker 13: sixteen percent tax rises for the average person out there,
26:28
Speaker 13: and government spending is double at thirty two percent. So
26:31
Speaker 13: Rain and your government spending because they can't. They're spending
26:35
Speaker 13: taxpayers income fast and then we're giving it to them.
26:38
Speaker 13: That's why you're going to have many problems that are
26:41
Speaker 13: going to come up in this next budget. The government
26:43
Speaker 13: has to look at another avenue of getting more taxes.
26:46
Speaker 13: So it's either going to be death duties or it's
26:48
Speaker 13: going to be capital gains tax. And I warned people
26:51
Speaker 13: your capital gains tax is not only going to be
26:54
Speaker 13: on the home or investment property. It's going to be
26:57
Speaker 13: right across the board, whether you're invest in shares, anything else,
27:01
Speaker 13: any investment, it's right across the board.
27:03
Speaker 1: Look out, We're all worried about that. I hate it
27:05
Speaker 1: when you get cranky at me, Pauline, because what happened
27:08
Speaker 1: was last week or the week before you got cranky
27:10
Speaker 1: when I asked a question about policy and I got
27:13
Speaker 1: praised by the ABC's Media Watch. And nothing makes me
27:15
Speaker 1: more uncomfortable been getting than getting praised from the ABC.
27:20
Speaker 1: So just go easy. There's lots to talk about and
27:23
Speaker 1: we want to get answers to it all. Let me
27:25
Speaker 1: show you what happened with the Prime minister today. He
27:28
Speaker 1: did one of those rapid response little interviews things that
27:31
Speaker 1: this function the Future Victoria today and your name came up.
27:36
Speaker 1: Have a look one nation voters frustrated Pauline Hanson device
27:46
Speaker 1: you Barnaby Joyce.
27:49
Speaker 9: Ah, you know.
27:51
Speaker 3: I just can't do that in one word. I am
27:55
Speaker 3: just looking forward to the Barnaby Joyce, the Pauline Hanty.
27:59
Speaker 3: You know it's coming.
28:02
Speaker 1: Okay, let me give you your chance, Pauline.
28:04
Speaker 13: Anthony Albanezi, Well, if you want to use the device.
28:10
Speaker 13: And for me, I'd say he's been the most divisive
28:13
Speaker 13: prime minister we have ever had in this country. There
28:17
Speaker 13: you go with the voice, with anti semitism, everything that's
28:21
Speaker 13: happened I just feel that he has divided this nation
28:26
Speaker 13: as he's pit Austraian against Australian and it's a shame.
28:30
Speaker 13: Our country is nowhere near what it was before he
28:33
Speaker 13: took the reins of being Prime minister for this country.
28:36
Speaker 13: Many people feel that way. It's a shame.
28:38
Speaker 1: It's not been this divided in my lifetime, that's for sure.
28:41
Speaker 1: So that is a fair comment. Indeed, I think he's
28:44
Speaker 1: very weak and that's why we're so divided. Thanks for
28:47
Speaker 1: joining us, Pauline. Let's hope we can have a good
28:49
Speaker 1: slugging match next week as well, Pauline Hanson. They're the
28:52
Speaker 1: one nation leader. I have to cut off there. We're
28:56
Speaker 1: out of time. I want to get it back on
28:57
Speaker 1: the power prices because there's a new report from the
29:00
Speaker 1: Climate Council. You can believe them, of course, and they
29:02
Speaker 1: blame gas and unreliable coal plants, among other things, for
29:07
Speaker 1: soaring power bills, not the renewables rollout. Let me bring
29:10
Speaker 1: in an expert for his assessment. Matt Rennie, his executive
29:14
Speaker 1: director of Renni Advisory. As we keep pointing out, Matt,
29:17
Speaker 1: you're an expert in this field. You're also all in
29:20
Speaker 1: on the renewables rollout, but you've also been very upfront
29:23
Speaker 1: about the costs it imposes on the system. The Climate
29:27
Speaker 1: Council is a bit richer, and they trying to blame
29:29
Speaker 1: all the pricing problems on coal and gas.
29:34
Speaker 14: I think so it's a little disrespectful to the role
29:37
Speaker 14: that coal and gas play, I have to say. I mean,
29:40
Speaker 14: if we have some realities on the table the nation
29:43
Speaker 14: electricity market, our demand grows by about six hundred megawatts
29:47
Speaker 14: per annum. We're adding about three thousand megawatts of rooftop
29:51
Speaker 14: solar every year. What that means is that coal fired power,
29:55
Speaker 14: which is the mainstay of our reliability, is now forced
29:59
Speaker 14: to try and pay its wages at six o'clock, and
30:02
Speaker 14: it's fighting with gas and wind and batteries in order
30:06
Speaker 14: to occupy that space, and so we're seeing prices rise
30:09
Speaker 14: as a consequence of that battle.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an interesting one because I'm really keen
30:13
Speaker 1: to see where this is going. And Anthony Albaniz and
30:16
Speaker 1: Chris Bowen tend to say that the more and more
30:18
Speaker 1: home batteries we get and solar panels will get over
30:21
Speaker 1: this problem. Do you think that is the case that
30:24
Speaker 1: we get enough solar energy across the suburbs of the
30:27
Speaker 1: nation during the day that with batteries you won't need coal.
30:33
Speaker 14: Well, I think there's no doubt that the batteries that
30:36
Speaker 14: we're putting in houses are eating into that six PM market.
30:39
Speaker 14: What happens is an enormous amount of what we call
30:42
Speaker 14: solar spill through the day, and that's all of that
30:44
Speaker 14: power that we're generating needs to go somewhere. It's being
30:47
Speaker 14: wasted at the moment, and when that's stored in batteries,
30:50
Speaker 14: households can access that after hours. There's no doubt that
30:55
Speaker 14: customers are keen to do that. They're keen to try
30:57
Speaker 14: and be self sufficient and to avoid some of these
31:00
Speaker 14: the power price increases that come up.
31:02
Speaker 1: But batteries are also.
31:03
Speaker 14: Expensive and at ten to fifteen thousand in order to
31:06
Speaker 14: put batteries on your houses, there's a lot of people
31:09
Speaker 14: that are ruled out of that and they're just facing
31:11
Speaker 14: increased prices over time.
31:12
Speaker 1: Indeed, and look, say I'm happy if I've got a battery,
31:15
Speaker 1: which I did, but if I had salt from the battery,
31:17
Speaker 1: you know, I can run the dishwasher, Wat's sky News
31:20
Speaker 1: at night and have hot water in the morning. Gets
31:22
Speaker 1: me through to the next day, that's fine, But what
31:24
Speaker 1: about the industries operating overnight? What about the hospitals and
31:28
Speaker 1: the other government services, and where they going to get
31:30
Speaker 1: their power from? Surely not from batteries.
31:34
Speaker 14: Well, that's right, and this is the battle we find
31:36
Speaker 14: between wind and coal, which is that battle for that
31:40
Speaker 14: after four pm right through to the morning market. There's
31:43
Speaker 14: no doubt that when governments extend the lives of coal,
31:46
Speaker 14: which we've seen a lot of, in order to prioritize
31:49
Speaker 14: pricing and also reliability, because let's face it, the power
31:52
Speaker 14: system can't currently survive without coal. And we need to
31:55
Speaker 14: bear in mind as well that coal doesn't get the
31:57
Speaker 14: benefit of many of these subsidy programs, Pacity Investment Scheme
32:01
Speaker 14: and Matt, you know, various initiatives like that. It's really
32:06
Speaker 14: trying to juke it out in order to save money
32:08
Speaker 14: in a situation where it's not valued very highly. And
32:10
Speaker 14: so the longer that Cole goes on that, the more
32:13
Speaker 14: that wind has to wait. And I think that causes
32:15
Speaker 14: a bit of frustration in the renewables industry. There's no
32:17
Speaker 14: doubt about that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, great analysis there, Matt, Thanks so much for joining us.
32:20
Speaker 1: Matt Rennie there, who's the executive director of Renny Advisory.
32:24
Speaker 1: Key point there as we just need coal. Whether you
32:26
Speaker 1: like it or not. Our grid doesn't operate, is not
32:29
Speaker 1: secure without that coal fire generation. We're going to take
32:32
Speaker 1: a break. On the other side, we're going to check
32:33
Speaker 1: in on Donald Trump gives that State of the Union address,
32:36
Speaker 1: gives himself plenty of praise. I'll find out what Tom
32:39
Speaker 1: Switzer thinks of it all. So Donald Trump got to
32:45
Speaker 1: give his State of the Union address this afternoon our time,
32:49
Speaker 1: but it was very Trumpian.
32:51
Speaker 15: Have a look, Members of Congress, and my fellow America.
32:57
Speaker 2: Our nation is back, bigger, richer, and stronger.
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Speaker 1: Than ever before. Yeah, well, he has got a case.
33:13
Speaker 1: America is doing all right. So let me bring in
33:15
Speaker 1: Tom Switz, a columnists in Australian. He has got a case,
33:19
Speaker 1: hasn't he looked? There was so much triumphalism in this
33:21
Speaker 1: speech and also stark divide over policies such as immigration
33:26
Speaker 1: between the Republicans and the Democrats. He was teasing that out.
33:30
Speaker 1: Is this a president who's actually going to be a
33:33
Speaker 1: plus for the Republicans come the midterms? This day's probably not.
33:38
Speaker 16: And that's mainly because history would indicate that the president's
33:40
Speaker 16: party usually goes backwards exactly the first midterm elections. The
33:44
Speaker 16: other point to bear in mind is although the president
33:47
Speaker 16: cites this great turnaround for the ages, it's not reflected
33:50
Speaker 16: in the opinion polls. A gallup shows his approval rating
33:53
Speaker 16: at only thirty six percent.
33:55
Speaker 1: Is that right?
33:56
Speaker 16: And the last quarter growth figures showed annual one percent
33:59
Speaker 16: growth That immediately came from a four percent annual growth
34:02
Speaker 16: in the third quarter, But it indicates that the US.
34:04
Speaker 1: Economy is slowing down.
34:05
Speaker 16: A lot of Americans are feeling the pain of a
34:07
Speaker 16: sluggish economy.
34:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, the economy is going to be key, but he's
34:12
Speaker 1: the campaigning it's an unusual situation, isn't in the It's
34:15
Speaker 1: his second term, but there was a gap between the
34:17
Speaker 1: first and the second, that's right. And then so he's
34:20
Speaker 1: disappearing no matter what at the end of this term.
34:22
Speaker 1: But he seems to think he's going to be an
34:24
Speaker 1: asset going into the midterms that it may not be
34:27
Speaker 1: the case. Let me go to international affairs, which he
34:30
Speaker 1: really didn't share a lot of detail on today, but
34:33
Speaker 1: here's what he had to say about Iran.
34:36
Speaker 15: Some terrible people they've already developed missiles that can threaten
34:40
Speaker 15: Europe and our bases overseas, and they're working to build
34:44
Speaker 15: missiles that will soon reach the United States of America.
34:48
Speaker 15: We are in negotiations with them. They want to make
34:50
Speaker 15: a deal, but we haven't heard those secret words. We
34:53
Speaker 15: will never have a nuclear weapon my preference.
35:01
Speaker 1: You know, there's no news there. That's what he's always
35:03
Speaker 1: said about Iran, and the whole world's waiting to hear what
35:06
Speaker 1: America's next step will be. There was just not a clue.
35:10
Speaker 16: My sense Chris is that he knows he's boxed in now.
35:13
Speaker 16: He's committed the largest arsenal of air and military assets
35:18
Speaker 16: to the Persian Gulf since the two thousand and three
35:21
Speaker 16: invasion of Iraq, and this was designed to put pressure
35:24
Speaker 16: on the Mullers to cave into his demands about no
35:28
Speaker 16: a uranium enrichment a no ballistic missile capability, and no
35:32
Speaker 16: support for the Shea militia proxies around the region. The
35:36
Speaker 16: Mullers aren't budging, they're not giving anything in so the
35:39
Speaker 16: onus is now on the president. The balls in his quarters,
35:41
Speaker 16: the Uranian say what's he going to do?
35:44
Speaker 1: Especially with some he's going to do. But he's got
35:45
Speaker 1: major military assets deployed to the region. Well he has
35:49
Speaker 1: turned around and shipped them out.
35:51
Speaker 16: Well, I mean he's boxed in in a way because
35:53
Speaker 16: he's also hearing from his Israeli allies that clearly have
35:56
Speaker 16: an interest in escalating things, even regime change in Taror. Well,
36:00
Speaker 16: let's face it, it's a brutal regime that's committed awful
36:04
Speaker 16: human rights abuses.
36:05
Speaker 1: Trump mentioned the figure of something.
36:07
Speaker 16: Like thirty two thousand Uranian protesters, who really knows the number,
36:11
Speaker 16: But it's a brutal regime. But he's also hearing from
36:14
Speaker 16: his sunny allies, the Saudis, the UAE, Turkey, the Golf States,
36:19
Speaker 16: but don't want another Iraq. They don't want another Syria.
36:22
Speaker 16: So his box in a pretty tough position.
36:25
Speaker 1: Reading the body language, when you look at the drawn
36:27
Speaker 1: out face of Marco Rubio in the crowd and seeing
36:30
Speaker 1: what Donald Trump had to say about this, you get
36:33
Speaker 1: the impression they don't know what they're going to do next. Boks.
36:35
Speaker 1: The reality is Iran is on the back foot. It's
36:39
Speaker 1: been humiliated since.
36:40
Speaker 16: October seven, but it still possesses something like two thousand
36:46
Speaker 16: medium range ballistic missiles. They can cause a lot of
36:49
Speaker 16: havoc in retaliation if they wanted to.
36:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a huge problem mind.
36:54
Speaker 16: I mean they could strike Israel, but they could also
36:56
Speaker 16: the military assets or the UAE.
36:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, joining us Tom Tom Switzeing read his stuff in
37:03
Speaker 1: the Olds tomorrow. He's written about the state of the
37:05
Speaker 1: Union address. We're going to get to a break. After
37:07
Speaker 1: the break, we're going to cross the UK and talk
37:09
Speaker 1: about the pressure mounting on the royal family to remove
37:12
Speaker 1: Andrew from the line of succession. Well, it's been a
37:18
Speaker 1: hell of a week for the royals in the UK,
37:20
Speaker 1: hasn't it, with the former Prince Andrew being the first
37:24
Speaker 1: royal to be arrested for over three centuries. Have a
37:28
Speaker 1: look at some of the front pages in the UK now.
37:31
Speaker 1: His sweating was my favorite from the Sun. We also
37:34
Speaker 1: saw the Daily Mail with the downfall headline and the
37:37
Speaker 1: Daily Star taxi for Andy. Now a lot of British
37:42
Speaker 1: lawmakers are looking at what they can do to remove
37:46
Speaker 1: Andrew from the line of succession, and there are calls
37:48
Speaker 1: to release all the confidential documents around his appointment as
37:54
Speaker 1: a trade envoy. Let's go to Sky News contributor in
37:57
Speaker 1: the UK es the cracker, good to talk to you again,
37:59
Speaker 1: said to unpack all this for us? What more are
38:02
Speaker 1: we going to find out? What's going to happen?
38:05
Speaker 17: Well, Prince Andrew has effectively been told by the Royal
38:08
Speaker 17: family that you now belong to the police and whatever
38:12
Speaker 17: the authorities want.
38:13
Speaker 1: To do for you.
38:13
Speaker 17: Because other than the fact that he was arrested, his
38:16
Speaker 17: emails with Jeffrey Epstein suggests that when he was a
38:20
Speaker 17: trade envoy, basically a lot of sensitive material that he
38:23
Speaker 17: received within five minutes he forwarded on to Jeffrey Epstein,
38:27
Speaker 17: basically triggered and arrest by the police, which generated that
38:31
Speaker 17: infamous image of him in the backseat trying to avoid
38:33
Speaker 17: paparazzi cameras. But from what the public have seen so far,
38:37
Speaker 17: is very suggestive that he had a very tight and
38:40
Speaker 17: deep relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, so to the extent that
38:43
Speaker 17: he was actually just forwarding on a sensitive information that
38:46
Speaker 17: he received as a trade envoy, and for someone who's
38:48
Speaker 17: like who is a financier and who is involved in
38:50
Speaker 17: financial markets, for like Jeffrey Epstein, it would have been
38:54
Speaker 17: very very useful information. Indeed, the fact that he was
38:57
Speaker 17: arrested on the King's estate in shows that the Royal
39:01
Speaker 17: family is really cooperating with the police as you would
39:04
Speaker 17: expect them to, and they've basically said we cannot protect
39:06
Speaker 17: this man. Obviously, the King has to ask all members
39:09
Speaker 17: of the Commonwealth whether they would be happy to remove
39:13
Speaker 17: Prince Andrew from the line of succession, which would basically
39:15
Speaker 17: be the final purge we always we already know that
39:17
Speaker 17: Australian Prime Minister Alberanizi has approved of that, and I
39:22
Speaker 17: suspect there will be little opposition from other Commonwealth members
39:25
Speaker 17: to remove the stain on the Royal family that is
39:27
Speaker 17: Prince Andrew. But it's been a very difficult week for
39:30
Speaker 17: the Royals.
39:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the wather they've.
39:32
Speaker 17: Been doing has been overshadowed by Andrew. Even with Will
39:35
Speaker 17: and Kate being at the bafters, you know, looking as
39:37
Speaker 17: glamorous as ever, which is something that people really look
39:39
Speaker 17: forward to every year. Unfortunately, they've had the shadow of
39:43
Speaker 17: Prince Andrew's arrest and all the investigations into his relationship
39:46
Speaker 17: with Epstein basically overshadowing that.
39:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, in New Zealand as well have said that'd be
39:50
Speaker 1: happy for the former Prince to be dropped off the
39:52
Speaker 1: line of succession. I wonder if there's something is that
39:55
Speaker 1: you could pass on on our behalf to the lawmakers
39:58
Speaker 1: of the UK and to the judiciary, and that is,
40:02
Speaker 1: if the Prince, the former prince is convicted of any crime,
40:06
Speaker 1: could they please not transport him to the penal colony
40:10
Speaker 1: of Australia. We don't want him.
40:14
Speaker 17: Well, thank you, we will make notice of that. At
40:16
Speaker 17: the moment, we are looking into potentially a desert somewhere
40:21
Speaker 17: in the middle least, a very nice cozy desert. That's
40:23
Speaker 17: other couple of people with this had people mention a
40:27
Speaker 17: small village in India where he will spend the rest
40:29
Speaker 17: of his life volunteering. But no, this whole thing has
40:32
Speaker 17: been very identifying for the royal family.
40:34
Speaker 5: No, it's not their fault.
40:36
Speaker 1: I just want to go to what the current Trade
40:38
Speaker 1: Minister has to say about it all.
40:40
Speaker 18: Here is a man on a constant self aggrandizing and
40:44
Speaker 18: self enriching hustle, a rude, arrogant and entitled man who
40:50
Speaker 18: could not distinguish between the public interest which he said
40:53
Speaker 18: he served and his own private interest.
40:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, most of the world agrees with that. You're saying
40:58
Speaker 1: the Royal family hasn't really been involved in this. It's
41:01
Speaker 1: not their doing, but perhaps they gave him too much
41:04
Speaker 1: latitude over too long a period.
41:07
Speaker 17: Well, I think most people are shocked by the complete
41:09
Speaker 17: lack of judgment that Prince and or the former Prince
41:11
Speaker 17: Andrew and Sarah Ferguson established. I mean, it was just
41:14
Speaker 17: it was clear that they were in it just to
41:16
Speaker 17: make as much money from their status as royals as possible.
41:20
Speaker 17: I mean, Prince Philip famously described Sarah Ferguson as odd
41:24
Speaker 17: and pointless and barred her from basically being seen with
41:26
Speaker 17: the royal family after a divorce from Prince and for
41:29
Speaker 17: the former Prince Andrew. But the whole thing has been
41:31
Speaker 17: really quite shocking, to the extent that he was willing
41:34
Speaker 17: to really trade in his royal status for any sort
41:38
Speaker 17: of money. I mean, his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, even
41:41
Speaker 17: though he denied it going as far back as it did,
41:43
Speaker 17: is incredible. And you've had you know, now former protection
41:46
Speaker 17: offices of his coming up to describe him as the
41:48
Speaker 17: media saying he had a nickname amongst the other protection
41:51
Speaker 17: offices and it rhymes with punt. Imagine that he wasn't
41:54
Speaker 17: a very popular man.
41:56
Speaker 1: He was not popular at all, and he's even less
41:58
Speaker 1: popular now, thanks for joining us. That's appreciate it. Astocratically
42:02
Speaker 1: the Live from the UK, We've got to get to
42:05
Speaker 1: a break. On the other side, Denika and Justin will
42:07
Speaker 1: join me. We'll talk about, among other things, the proposed
42:10
Speaker 1: return of the Islamic State families to Australia. Justin smith
42:19
Speaker 1: Man about Melbourne broadcast at author will join us from
42:23
Speaker 1: there on the desk. Key with me is Denika to
42:25
Speaker 1: Georgio Sky News host. They're about ready to wrangle. Let's
42:28
Speaker 1: wrangle over the economy. Inflation up again. Justin Albo and
42:33
Speaker 1: Charmers have got no idea.
42:37
Speaker 19: Well, I mean, it's the it's the government's job to
42:39
Speaker 19: take responsibility for it, isn't it. I mean, I'm sure,
42:42
Speaker 19: as we've said many times, if the inflation figures were wonderful,
42:46
Speaker 19: they'd be screaming it from that wouldst the top of
42:49
Speaker 19: Parliament House. But it's it's it just ain't so that's
42:55
Speaker 19: their job.
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Speaker 1: It's the gig. Jimbo of course, always tells us that
42:58
Speaker 1: he's doing a great job. Here is what he's planning
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Speaker 1: to do next.
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Speaker 4: We are looking for additional savings beyond one hundred and
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Speaker 4: fourteen billion dollars that we've saved already, and one of
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Speaker 4: the motivations for that is to make sure that we're
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Speaker 4: playing a helpful role in the fight against inflation.
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Speaker 1: Tanika, we've been through this before. He calls it one
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Speaker 1: hundred and forty billion dollars of saving. That's money he
43:21
Speaker 1: just shifted elsewhere. And then they spend more. They've said none,
43:25
Speaker 1: they've just increase spender. Yeah.
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Speaker 6: You know what's the definition of insanity, Chris. You know
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Speaker 6: when you keep doing the same thing over and over
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Speaker 6: again hoping that you get the same outcome.
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Speaker 1: Jim. Every economist in the country.
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Speaker 6: Has warned you that you're Yeah, like Wednesdays, every economist
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Speaker 6: in the country has warned you that you know, You're
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Speaker 6: spending is out of control. The RBA has warned and
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Speaker 6: he's still doing the same thing. We knew that this
43:45
Speaker 6: was going to happen, Chris. We knew that inflation was
43:47
Speaker 6: going to rise. Labor designed to dish out subsidies thinking
43:50
Speaker 6: here is your band aid solution. It was a wonderful
43:52
Speaker 6: way to trick the RBA into thinking that they had got.
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Speaker 1: A hold on the economy.
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Speaker 6: We knew once those subsidies petered out that the inflation
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Speaker 6: was going to go up. I couldn't miss spending us
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Speaker 6: into oblivion right now, and in complete denial of it.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe the nonsense of this. I called this
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Speaker 1: out the day of the budget, the day before the budget,
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Speaker 1: and this is a trick that won't work. And the
44:14
Speaker 1: pretends that inflation goes away, but it's going to come back, obviously.
44:17
Speaker 1: It's it's just so obvious justin that this spending has
44:21
Speaker 1: been the problem. We all know that we spent too
44:23
Speaker 1: much during the pandemic and that was going to be inflationary,
44:27
Speaker 1: and the only way to fix that was to curb
44:29
Speaker 1: your government spending. Instead, labors just kept increasing it.
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Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, But to stand but to come into the
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Speaker 19: cabinet room and sort of bang the fest and say, right,
44:39
Speaker 19: we're going to we're going to cut spending, you know,
44:43
Speaker 19: as though it's like the old Simpsons gag when Homers
44:45
Speaker 19: instance says work harder and it makes him a good boss,
44:48
Speaker 19: you know, just to say we're going to cut spending,
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Speaker 19: we've really got to see I'm not all for cutting spending,
44:53
Speaker 19: but we've got to see the detail. Where are those
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Speaker 19: costs coming from? I mean, are they taking it from
44:57
Speaker 19: a stet. They won't be taking it from their own pocket.
44:59
Speaker 19: They'll be no politician that will be worse off when
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Speaker 19: they cut spending. So where the hell does it come from? Well,
45:05
Speaker 19: I think the public important question.
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Speaker 1: Well, they have took of the public service.
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Speaker 6: It's the most inflated public service and that Labour says
45:14
Speaker 6: has ever seen. Were you going to start making who
45:16
Speaker 6: goes on some departments? There's got to be some departments
45:19
Speaker 6: that have to go.
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Speaker 1: You've got to get on. Well, the forty thousand I've
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Speaker 1: hadded since they come into power, they've obviously not helped
45:25
Speaker 1: at all, and perhaps all those who are just working
45:27
Speaker 1: from home, because if you can't turn up and do
45:30
Speaker 1: your job, honestly, it's it's a shocker. Here's Tim Wilson,
45:33
Speaker 1: now the Shadow Treasurer.
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Speaker 20: We've had Pyro Jim Jim Charmers out there pouring debt fuel,
45:41
Speaker 20: debt petrol on the inflation fire and it's catching up
45:44
Speaker 20: with the government as their excuses no longer hold. The
45:48
Speaker 20: Prime Minister is now coming and overriding the treasure and saying, mate,
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Speaker 20: you're causing this problem.
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Speaker 1: Your job is now to stop it. Yeah, we'll see,
45:58
Speaker 1: good luck to them. They need to curb spending, but
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Speaker 1: that showed no sign of it. We'll see what happens.
46:03
Speaker 1: Let's go to Victoria and get your thoughts justin on
46:05
Speaker 1: this story in the hereld some today that the premier
46:08
Speaker 1: there just said to Allan has actually known about the
46:11
Speaker 1: prospect of returning Islamic state families or Isis brides and
46:15
Speaker 1: their kids since September last year. Yeah.
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Speaker 19: Yeah, but nobody's being upfront on this. So the state
46:24
Speaker 19: governments aren't being upfront. We're not getting the detail. But
46:27
Speaker 19: my bigger concern is them actually getting into the country
46:31
Speaker 19: and how that works, because there may be some of
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Speaker 19: them and we just don't know this. There may be
46:35
Speaker 19: some of them that would be almost genuine refugees and
46:40
Speaker 19: victims of what has happened that may be allowed to
46:42
Speaker 19: come in. But you've got the governments up I mean,
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Speaker 19: we just don't know that. I'm not saying there are,
46:46
Speaker 19: I'm not saying there aren't.
46:47
Speaker 1: We don't know that yet. Because what is missing is
46:49
Speaker 1: we have the.
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Speaker 19: Minister on the weekend saying, oh, we don't want them here,
46:56
Speaker 19: you know, we don't want them coming here. Okay, Well,
46:58
Speaker 19: if that's the case, give us the detail on why,
47:01
Speaker 19: and then tell us why you can't because you managed
47:04
Speaker 19: to keep one of them out for security reasons, So
47:06
Speaker 19: if you want to keep them all out for security reasons,
47:09
Speaker 19: then surely you're able to do it. I'm going to
47:11
Speaker 19: say this is confusing as hell. I'd be flat out
47:14
Speaker 19: finding a person who really understands this. That's well from
47:20
Speaker 19: the details.
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Speaker 6: Well, the minister over the weekend, his exact wording was
47:23
Speaker 6: we know these people, and then he went on to
47:25
Speaker 6: say that this is not a very coherent cohort. Now,
47:28
Speaker 6: if we are basing our national security on whether or
47:31
Speaker 6: not a person is coherent or not, and we seriously
47:34
Speaker 6: have got big problems. Chris and I agree. I think
47:37
Speaker 6: this is a scandal. These ministers knew about it. Labor
47:41
Speaker 6: federally knew for months at these women for months that
47:44
Speaker 6: these women were going to come back, and they've sat
47:46
Speaker 6: on it, and now suddenly they're going, no, we're trying
47:48
Speaker 6: to keep arm's length away from it.
47:51
Speaker 1: There's not much honesty here. They've been very secretive about
47:55
Speaker 1: this and it needs to be exposed just very quickly.
47:57
Speaker 1: Let's look at this guy and use pulse polling, and
47:59
Speaker 1: that shows us of course, that we have a similarity
48:03
Speaker 1: in primary votes between the major parties. Now, obviously the
48:06
Speaker 1: Coalition and One Nation are dooking it out in the
48:10
Speaker 1: load of mid twenties, but labor have come down to
48:12
Speaker 1: twenty nine percent. I think this is fascinating. I think
48:17
Speaker 1: as we get closer to the election, maybe it becomes
48:20
Speaker 1: a bit more polarized. But at the moment that is
48:24
Speaker 1: plunging shambles and we're running out of time to talk
48:27
Speaker 1: about it. Thanks for joining us, justin, and think we'll
48:30
Speaker 1: catch up with you next week. Just a little bit
48:32
Speaker 1: of your feedback on the economy. I had some of
48:35
Speaker 1: your comments here. How is this allowed to happen? Overspending
48:42
Speaker 1: our money and killing us softly, death by a thousand cuts. Yep,
48:46
Speaker 1: that's exactly what's happening. Most people are onto it. You've
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Speaker 1: got to trim your cloth, labor. Here's been a quivalent