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Madison Seminary with Savage Energi · Trapped Souls Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Hi, welcome Trap Souls.
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm still here with Craig, Mark, Aaron, Kelsey, and April from Savage Energy.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_03: How'd you guys come up with their name?
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, how'd you come up with your name?
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_00: We never got to that.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, well, it was a lot of hours of me sitting staring at a computer, sending a thousand different messages to Kelsey and Abby.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um and uh I wanted something that was unique.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted we were trying to come up with something we were looking for, like that described our personality.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: And then I love wolves, so I was trying to incorporate wolves into our logo, so I was trying to find something that would work with that.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: Gave up on that after what, like 50 tries.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um and then I was using this um name generator to come up with different words that the hours I did on that one, yeah.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: To come up with different words that I may not have thought of for the paranormal or whatever.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_01: And the E-N-E-R-G-I came up, and I was like, oh, I kinda like that.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um we all agreed we liked Savage, so we were just trying to come up with something that worked with them.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: Why why Savage?
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_01: Have you met us?
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_05: It's not Savage, it should have been Feral Energy.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: Feral would have been better, but yeah.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_03: If you act so if you actually look up Savagely Paranormal, it comes up as us.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_03: So we took the name Savagely Paranormal and we use that with as like our YouTube and stuff, but Savage Energy is like who we are.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to find um I just saw it the other day.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_01: I had I had saved a note from when I was looking at names.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_01: For the what the A N E R G I stands for.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_01: But of course now I won't find it.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_05: I really like that.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_05: I do, personally.
• 2:19
  unknown: I know.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_05: No?
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_05: It's fine.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_01: Oh there it is.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what I mean.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, so anyways, we're talking about talking about Madison Seminary.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: You guys joined us and your April's two sons joined us.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um I didn't get a chance to investigate with you because I was off pretty much on my own most of the time because I love solos.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_00: What were what was the one spot that just you guys had a lot of stuff that had.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_03: We did, yeah.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um the bedroom.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_00: Which bedroom is my name?
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_00: On the Civil War side.
• 3:06
  unknown: Yeah.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: Civil War.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: Now I've never gotten anything out of Civil War.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: Ever.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_03: We didn't expect to.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but her kid did it come out again.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_03: No, it's a home.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we didn't expect to, but her kid like walked into the room and was and I came running back out.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_03: Which we learned a lot about.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_03: And he was like, Yeah, somebody just like sat up on the bed and we were like, No.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_03: And then when we walked into the room, there was still an outline of where somebody was laying down.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_03: And we were in there for what two minutes, if that was like a feel good, yeah.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_01: We did get one, I wouldn't call it an EVP because it's not really a voice.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_01: The girl.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: As we were rushing out the door.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_01: Literally rushing out the door.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, literally.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_01: My you hear my youngest son going, go now, go, and you hear as we're getting like literally pushed out the door.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_01: Poor Aaron almost got pushed down the stairs.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't listen to all of Aaron's video units.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_05: I have a problem and I just record everything.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, there was one you guys, I don't know which room you guys were in.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_00: I think the back room by the truck tank.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: I believe that's where it was.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_00: You guys were talking.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: Craig was standing in the back filming, and you guys are talking about like two people leave at a time.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: So when he you get someone said something in the beginning of it, and it sounded like someone said, I'll give you the tour.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: And it was like, like, I'll give you the tour.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: It was an EVP off the video camera.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_03: Is that where we were all in, like with the three beds?
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_03: And then we were like, Who do you want to leave first?
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_03: Ah, okay.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_00: I heard it.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_00: I made my daughter Tegan listen to it.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: She heard it.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_00: I cut it to try to make it into a little video to put it on Facebook.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's nothing there.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_03: That's weird.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it was a little weird, but it was there.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: It was cool.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I'm sure I can bring up the whole video of it and have you guys listen to it, but well, while we were out there, because you were down there with us at one point, the face in the window.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_00: You guys talked about something about the face in the window.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was weird.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, the the picture that I got.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_01: That was wild.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_05: So, drunk tank, there's the that room that it's like the laundry room, and there was that other room.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_05: And how that we were standing, April was taking pictures in the windows.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it was before that was Caden trying to go in there, and he said there was somebody in the window looking.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_05: And she took a picture that we saw, and you could see something, and it it was at an angle that you wouldn't catch a reflection off of it.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_05: And that was the big thing.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_05: And as she was scrolling through, you could see it kind of like shift through.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: And it would only show like the way my phone takes pictures, because they're weird, um, it like starts to take the picture, then the flash shines, and then it keeps going for a couple seconds afterwards.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: The image only showed up when the flash was on.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_05: But you could, like I said, how you were angled.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_05: And then I took like you couldn't get a reflection.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_01: I took three or four pictures in a row, and it was in either only one or two, I forget exactly, but I mean you can clearly see an outline.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's wild.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: Any other places?
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_01: That where was that room that Tegan was sitting in the classroom looking at that bookshelf.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: It was on the other side of the three.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, down in yeah, the classroom.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_05: So what we said we were leaving two by two?
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_05: The room next to it.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so there we we learned a little bit more that my son can actually speak to them, which Okay.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: That was new.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I knew he's seen some, and I know he's like talked to my uncle and things like that, but the fact that he talks to other ones was a little mind-boggling.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um this was his first investigation, right?
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, besides just forcing around the death.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so he was talking to a guy that was behind him, and I was at one end of the room, he was sitting in that desk, and there was he had said the guy didn't like my flashlight.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, Well, I'm sorry, if you're gonna stand behind my kid, I'm gonna have my flashlight handy just because, okay?
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_01: And you hear a knock.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_01: And Tegan's like, Did you hear that?
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Yeah, I thought it was you.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, No, it wasn't me.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, cool.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_01: We proceed a little bit more, and then uh he's talking to him some more, and you know, we're back on the whole flashlight thing, and blah blah blah.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_01: Wham! And I mean, you hear this on my recorder, like it's right there.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_01: Then you hear the people in the next room screaming, and then they come running in.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, scream if your kid is next room.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: But we couldn't find anything that had fallen in that entire room.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_05: I remember hearing that because we were down a little bit further, and there was that big bang.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_05: Do you remember hearing that?
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and there was nothing there to cause it.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I and you hear it so loud on the recording, right?
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: But nothing in that room was moved.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: No, right before that, Caden shut the door.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_03: I hate it when they shut the doors.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_03: But Caden shut the door when we were in the one with the three bents.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and he was like, I want to shut the door.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_03: And I said, Okay, that's fine.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_03: I said, but if something weird happens, we're not staying in here.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_05: We're eaten.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_03: We weren't even in the room with the door closed for more than two minutes before he was like, it got really dark in here.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I could tell he was getting nervous, and I'm like, okay, I have to be the grown-up in this situation.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I was like, I was like, alright, I was like, it's fine.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_03: I was and I was like, Are you okay?
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_03: He's like, Yeah, I'm fine.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_03: He goes, but it just got really dark in here.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_03: And then he moved closer to me.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, Alright, we're done.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_03: I said, because it feels like there are way too many people in this room, and there's there's just the two of us right now.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_03: And he was like, Yeah, I don't feel right.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_03: And as we would open the door, is when the loud slam happened.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_05: He screamed, I screamed, and we took off into the other room.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_05: And remember the cat balls were going off outside that room too, and there was nobody out in that hallway.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: So we talked about like experiences, obviously.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: Is it someone just trying to communicate with you?
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean Or is it something bad?
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: It supposedly the guy that my son was talking to, which he was warning us about what was gonna happen later in the evening, which it did.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um but this guy claims that he was very angry because he's stuck there.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: He doesn't know why.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: Is he trapped?
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, he's a trap to someone.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: I looked for Lob and do it too.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but he doesn't know why.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_01: He doesn't know why he can't leave.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_01: He can only stay on that floor, he can't even like venture anywhere else in the building.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: But he was very comfortable talking to Tegan, but if I went closer to Teagan, he backed away.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_01: And he wasn't comfortable, and he made both me and Aaron.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: I get it.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: I can't pinpoint when he might have been from, because the the things he was saying doesn't sound like he was from that long ago because he he shot himself.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: He's sad he regrets because he missed his son's wedding because he couldn't leave the building to even visit his son.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but his son came through there on a tour and he saw his son, but he couldn't interact with his son because his son got freaked out by something else he had seen in the evening or whatever.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: So all these things just made him, I don't want to say an angry spirit, but in a way he was angry.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he was grateful that he got to share his story.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: The weirdest thing for me was as he's telling his story, and I'm standing next to Tegan, I lost all vision in my left eye.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, uh stroke, um, what's going on?
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: And Tegan looks at me, he's like, No, mom, you're fine.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_01: He just wanted to see what things look like for him because he shot himself in the face.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, but no thanks.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it it was really weird.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've I've felt them before.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: I've seen like they can show me pictures in my head, but to actually be able to see what they're seeing.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that that was wild.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, that's the one thing like you brought up you have three girls here, so we investigate a lot of stuff that's in the past.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like obviously they're dead, so they're in the past.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: But back in the day, women were put down.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: We were seen, not heard.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I mean you were supposed to be in the kitchen and doing your church, yeah.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: And so I mean, is that hard as an investigator?
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: Because I really thought about that way.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_03: For well, for me, no.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_03: Because I'll go to toe, I'll go toe-to-toe with anybody.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_03: I don't care how long you've been an investigator.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_03: They don't sneak up behind you.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: Unless it's in a theater and you run out of it.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_03: That was too much, okay.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_03: That was too much.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_03: I was tired, there was a lot going on.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_03: But no, I'll For me, like, for me, if it I start to get too like if I start to get too emotional or whatnot, I'm just don't touch me.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_03: Simple as that.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_03: There's no not asking nicely, it's just don't touch me.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_03: But I'll I'll go toe-to-toe.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: Aaron.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: Because I mean a lot of places we do rescue.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_00: Look down at women.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_05: I'm extremely empathetic.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_05: I've always been empathetic.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_05: I have it is it is a blessing and a curse, truthfully.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_05: To have something when you walk in there and it looked down upon you.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_05: And you can feel that if you've been in, you know, no offense, our shoes as women, yeah, and you guys as men who hold jobs that are of a higher power, if you will.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_05: To walk in there and have these feelings, it hits you.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_05: It hurts, and it makes me very I cried.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_05: I seriously, I was in tears down there.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_05: And there and how many times have we been down there?
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_05: A few times.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_05: Four?
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and it was it was it was devastating.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, everybody that's gonna listen to this, you know, think about it.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like, the places we investigate are, you know, ran by men.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: And they look down at women, like you said, wash laundry, bring the food, nurses, and the babies.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_00: And the babies, and that that was your I don't want to say that would sound bad, but that was your job.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: That was yeah, back then that was your job.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, there's still a lot of people that feel like it's women's place in the kitchen and to have babies, and those people deserve to get throat punch.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: But I wish.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: But we You're gonna get throat punched.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: But like I'm just joking.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_03: When we when we go into places and the first thing that people say is don't go alone because they will attack women.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: Pisses me off.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's the one thing they say in a lot of places, like women.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like, don't go there because you're a woman.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: And that's nice to be able to do it.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: You get that if you guys watch shows like Ghost Brothers, same thing.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're black.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, because they can't go into certain places or they shouldn't.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: But they do.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they they take the extremity and say, I'm black, dude.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what are you gonna do about it?
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: Because this day and age, it doesn't matter.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: But back then, I mean, are the spirits stuck still in their same state of mind?
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: Or for how many people like Madison, how many people go through there?
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: We had that with Sarah.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: She's a female, she's gay.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, does that like that's a whole that's a whole different level of.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: Because some some spirits know what type of people are from.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: Other spirits are still seeing the building the way it was when they were alive, and um, they were kind of confused, like, why are you?
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_05: It's like the whole walking through doors.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_05: Well, if you look at a blueprint at one point there was a door there, you know, that's why they're going through that wall or something.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_05: So, yeah, there's some that are just stuck in that timeline and and that quote unquote dimension.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, and that goes back to the well there was a joke that I made the one time we went to an investigation because I wear t-shirts, hoodies, jeans.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_03: I don't typically dress like a girl, and I wear hats.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_03: I have a lot of hats.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_03: And if I pull my hair up into my hat, I look just like a boy.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_03: And we made the joke that the ghost got confused until I took my hat off.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_03: Because as soon as I took my hat off and put my hair in a ponytail, everything was completely different.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: The one of them actually said something about it, but I can't for the life of me remember.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_03: I had my hair pulled that night.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I had my back against one of the doorways, and I had taken my hat off, and I pulled my hair into a ponytail, and my head got jerked back.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: I it's a good experiment though.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_03: Like I wasn't wearing a hat anymore, so you could definitely tell, okay, I'm a girl.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_03: And that made them angry, apparently.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: Because not the time you guys went to Madison, but the time before we had Sarah and her girlfriend there, and they got the most activity.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: And she has a lot of good questions, like, do you mind a female being in charge or doing this?
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, that got me thinking like maybe that it has something to do with it.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: Because they're not used to it, especially choosing the attic of Madison where it's male dominant.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, yeah.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_03: That was the one thing, like, when I first explored there, the the caretaker, I don't know who her name is, but the first thing she said was, Don't be surprised if you girls have problems.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, the hell is that supposed to mean?
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_03: And that's when we found out that a lot of women that go through there are tormented more than the men are.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean that's what I love about our group.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: We got a very good mix.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we have my daughter and T.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: She's you too.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean we have my daughter T, and you know, she's even though she looks like she's older than she is, but she's still a young girl.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: She will always be a young girl in my mind.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: Don't change.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: And you'll still be his little girl.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'll always be my brother's girl.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, then we have the skeptic who doesn't believe in anything.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: Aaron, who feels everything, Reed, who likes to debunk everything, and Reed's brother has come with us a couple times.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: A gay guy.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's not what they're used to, especially the places we do.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: Sarah, obviously a female.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, I think the group as a whole is a good mix.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: Because I can go up somewhere and get nothing, then Sarah can go up and get something.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: And Craig can go up there and get something but never believe in it.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_03: I think we have sometimes we have that problem because we are just a women's group, and sometimes like we don't get anything, but then like if we have one of our friends tag along, we'll send him in there and be like, go do this, and he'll come back and he's like, Did you see what happened?
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, You get all the good stuff.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, with two of you, it's hard, but you guys are more in tune with everything.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to say sensitive.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: We get more like personal responses than just the random thing.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: So we get more of the emotional, the personal, that kind of stuff.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: I I do want to talk about like a little bit about Mark's cabin.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: We went, and obviously it's gonna come up.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: Mark has a cabin.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_02: I know she does.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: Parents on the property since 1790 will make it quick.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: But Bird had some stuff that happened to him.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, I want Bird to talk about it.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_06: Oh my god, there's Bird.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: Bird Bird's one of the founding guys that I used to investigate with.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay, like 15 years ago.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I explained to my dad.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: My dad asked me the other day, why do you call him Bird?
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so okay, no, it's not that's what I always thought.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: But he looks like a crossbreed.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like Larry Bird and Big Bird had a baby.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, that funny.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_05: He's very nice, he's great.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: I love Bird.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: But he had some stuff coming over, that's his method, what I was doing.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: And uh it was just talking about I was trying to tell my wife about it the next day because Bird texts me, and I got emotional about it.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: It was it was rough.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_05: I did too when he told me.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we wasn't supposed to tell you.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: But I wanted him to explain the situation and when he gets on, and we'll talk about Reed's cabin and all the stuff that happened there.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: But it was it was rough for me.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like I told the story to Craig, I was fine.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I told text Mark about it.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: But when I was telling my wife, like I got emotional about it, like I wanted to cry.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, like it was rough.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, my daughter gets that a lot more you know, empath stuff, especially Fairfield.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean, it's it's it's rough.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll talk we'll keep talking about mass then.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: Cabin will be coming up soon.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: Guy's trip.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: Guys trip.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: Since we're talking about Madison, are we ever gonna hear the recording that from Sammy?
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: I I got it up.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: You've been saying it a couple times, we're gonna play it.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: Is this it's two or two minutes 19 seconds?
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's when we start we got up there and we started setting up throw it.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: One more thing.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: What'd you do?
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: Bird.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_02: Bird they're showing bird.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_06: He's the sweetest.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_06: I love him dearly.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_06: He looks like a bird.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_06: Dogs don't have autism.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_03: Are you sure?
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_03: Because I'm pretty sure mine does.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_03: I think I don't know.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: Get into this.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: Do dogs have autism?
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_04: Why can't they?
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_04: Please don't do this to me.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_04: Because I have to deal with them.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_04: Just say no.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_04: For me.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, thank you.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_04: My dog does.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_04: Scientifically, no.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_04: But why?
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's all on what you feel and believe.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: If you're projecting autism onto the dog.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm not projecting it.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: Reaper?
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not projecting it.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_03: He's got ADHD.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_03: That yes.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so there's muggy.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_03: Reaper does.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_03: Oh god.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for listening, traps holes.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: Talk to you later.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_01: Bye.