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Luke Thomas Political Live Chat, ep. 5 · Luke Thomas Gets Political (LTGP)

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All right, I'm going to try to make this
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work. Hang on one second. Let's do
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Let's do this cuz there is a shine from
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the
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teleprompter. Hello everyone. Hello.
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Hello. Hello. Welcome. My name is Luke
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Thomas. This is episode five of my
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political live chat. It is the 2nd of
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October and I look and feel like death.
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I I slept very very poorly last night.
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very very poor, super poorly, extremely
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poorly. And then I had to get up early
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for work and do CNN and uh which I was
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very lucky to do. I was very happy to
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do. I just, you know, my only complaint,
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if I may issue one,
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rather than getting up at 3:00 a.m. to
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do I mean, I was I was getting up is I
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don't even know how to describe the
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sleep I got last night. I don't know if
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getting up is the appropriate word when
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you Anyway, the sleep was bad. But the
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point being is it's like what about like
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300 p.m. you know gathered my thoughts.
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I've had my coffee for the day. You know
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what I mean? Like it's
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but um but I'm you know
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grateful to get opportunities to do
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those just the same of course. So
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welcome welcome welcome here. I'm going
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to try and power through this. I was
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supposed to start this at three. I felt
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like death
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and then I had some water. I sat down. I
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had some Tylenol. began to feel a little
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bit better. So, I'm kind of I'm I'm, you
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know, minute by minute, I'm starting to
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come around. I'm getting it going. But,
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um, I felt fine during MK and then I hit
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a complete wall. I was like, so
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hopefully my answers won't be bad if
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they are below normal quality. I mean,
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they might already be low quality. I I
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hope that they will not be lower than
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the common standard of poverty that
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you're used to from me. Uh, but I
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appreciate you being here just the same.
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We'll go for about an hour. I'm going to
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try and make it an hour. It's usually
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what they've been going for. So, I know
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some folks um you know, some folks
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didn't want us to do a political live
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chat separately. They wanted to kind of
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keep the normal live chat together. I
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feel like this is working. It's only
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five episodes in. I don't really I don't
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really know, but it it it's made the
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normal live chat more uh MMA slashlife
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stuff and then some political stuff too
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obviously and then it's made this one
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obviously almost expressly political.
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So, I don't I don't feel like that
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separation is bad. Not yet. Maybe I'll
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change my opinion. Um,
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if you guys would be so kind, a great
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way to support the channel is to put a
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donation into the super chat. Um, you
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don't have to if you don't want to. If
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you just want to hang out, that's cool,
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too, but it goes a long way towards
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supporting the channel. So, thank you
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for all who do. If you haven't become a
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subscriber yet, please consider that as
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well. And we don't have memberships yet
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here. I can't commit to it until I can
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um you know uh narrow down the focus of
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some of the things I'm doing. I'm not
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really ready to to do that kind of a
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thing here yet, but uh I will take a
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super chat if you're interested. So,
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thank you for doing that. I really
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appreciate it. Um yes, I did CNN this
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morning. I did CNN this morning. It was
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Let's see what were the topics we did.
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Well, actually, it changed on on by
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because did you guys see this lady? I
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forget her name who was in Tennessee who
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they tried to kill the state tried to
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execute her twice and failed both times
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and so now she's on a ventilator. I
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don't know the state of her um
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I don't I I I don't know what kind of
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executive function or neurological signs
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of life are there but u anyway the show
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started out with a conversation with a
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journalist from the Tennesseeian about
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the politics of that and then we had
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another guy who was a former federal
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prosecutor on the show who was
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explaining like this is like they
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probably can't ex try to execute her
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again because it's one thing like in
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previous instances you'll have them like
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where they can't find a vein, but the
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person is otherwise like mostly, you
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know, they got their arm poked or
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something, but they're mostly uninjured,
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you know, so you can kind of just wheel
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them in the next day, but this is
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different. Uh, and this would be, in his
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estimation, a potential violation of the
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ETH amendment.
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So, we did that. Then, what did we do?
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We did Trump's meme coin. Oh, we did
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Trump bashing the Supreme Court. I
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didn't feel like my answers during that
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segment were very good. I'll be honest
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about that. Um, then we did Trump's
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memecoin. I had some to offer. Uh, there
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there was the attempted rehabilitation
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of Nixon visa v relitigating Watergate,
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which is, you guys realize the
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Department of Justice is like totally
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understaffed, right? Like they have I
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think something like 2,000 fewer
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attorneys than they normally do. Uh,
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like a substantial chunk is gone. And
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there potentially looking into this.
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It's you just, you know, you can't make
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it up. And then there was oh AI
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political ads uh which my view is I
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think they should come with a
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disclaimer.
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You you don't have to stop doing it
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because on some level it could be
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considered speech but uh you can put
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labels on things without that curtailing
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speech as such. And I'm very tired of
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operating in a world where these
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companies just unleash AI technology on
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us and then our response is oh I guess
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we just now have to accommodate this.
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No. If this is going to be a technology
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that is society disrupting, that is
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going to potentially affect jobs,
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careers, lives, our politics, you name
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it, then we have a right to have a say
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over this technology, period. Um, this
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is ours and we should shape what we
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allow in our interest. Like, we
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shouldn't just accept, oh, AI is going
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to do this to us. No, no, we're going to
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do this to AI. Uh, and I'm I'm okay with
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AI political ads even and and they
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showed one that was like Telerico and
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that Paxton made about Telerico and it's
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not actually it's not it's it's it's AI
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of him um like like a B like you know
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like a super woke bible or something and
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it is his actual words. It's not him
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actually saying it, but it is they got a
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transcript of things he had said and
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then they put like an AI representation
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of him talking. That should come with a
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disclaimer. Um that should come with a
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disclaimer. So, and again, that's a
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situation of like his actual words, not
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new speech you're inventing that he
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said, you know. Um, in any event, so
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some of my answers were okay, some were
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less than good. In general, it went fine
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and I was happy to be on. All right,
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let's see what kind of questions y'all
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got here.
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Oh, let's see what we got here. Let's
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see what we got. We got no super chats.
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Damn gang. No, I'm teasing. If you don't
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have it, it's okay. I'll let it rock for
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a few more minutes and then if not,
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we'll just go back to the regular ones.
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Um,
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anyway, that was fun.
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It's not too too far from my house. Um,
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it's it's right across the street, like
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literally like across the street from uh
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Union Station. Not the front of Union
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Station, but the What end would that be?
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That would be the west end of it. The
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west the west side of the building.
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Um, it's basically across the street
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from there's like a series of office
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complexes and stuff, bro. They um they
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walk you to your car, you know, and I
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asked them like, "How often do you guys
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get crazies out here?" And they're like,
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"Very rarely." And it's mostly
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apparently like, you know,
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I I don't know, homeless people or
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something, right?
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It's mostly homeless people who are, you
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know, just sort of agitating in public.
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They don't typically get it, but you
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know, it's happened on occasion, you
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know, where they get some kind of crazy
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out there. So, they walk you to your
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car. That's kind of fun. I'm like, wow,
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this is a this is a healthy politics.
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Um, but okay. All right. Dave's got the
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first super chat here. Still using THC
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at all? Yes. Might help ease the tension
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in these wild political times. I have
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found
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I have found that I need to be um
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discerning about when I use and under
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what conditions because at times it can
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do that for me and again I didn't
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realize that some of this stuff might be
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strain or particular administration
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dependent I mean the how you administer
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the drug do you eat it do you smoke it
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whatever um but it has at times caused
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and exacerbated my tensions
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And so I'm trying to be careful about,
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you know, just trying to be mindful
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about um
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when when might be an appropriate time
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to just pass, you know, not puff puff
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pass.
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What do you think of Dave Smith? You
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guys agree and disagree on a lot, but
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both seem well educated in your
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opinions. Would love to see a lengthy
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discussion. He's been an amazing fan.
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Maybe an in for you. I'm not sure what
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you mean by an inn, but um I I've said
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this before. I did a show with him. I
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did a show with it was me, Dave Smith,
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and Lewis J. Gomez. Uh and Big Jay
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Oerson stopped by. This was for Sirius
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XM back in the day because all those
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guys were UFC. Maybe they still are. I'm
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not sure. I think I've seen Lewis J.
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Gomez say he's not one, but we did like
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a UFC show um together
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and uh I I'm not familiar with the
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total. I'll be honest, I am not
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familiar, frankly, I'm not familiar with
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very much of Dave Smith's views. The
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ones I have seen are principally related
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to the Israel Gaza conflict and those
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have been, you know, pretty great. Um,
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in general, uh, I'm not entirely sure
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what the rest of his beliefs have been.
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I know that he used to be I know that he
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regrets his Trump support. I am familiar
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with that. Um, I would just kind of be
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lying if I said I had a firm grasp of
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what his views are. So, I have to um I
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have to be mindful of that in making any
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kind of assessment. But certainly on
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that issue, he seems I saw what did I
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see? Oh, he if speaking of Dave Smith,
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he had some kind of debate. I think I'm
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not exactly sure how recent it was, but
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it was with Allan Dersowitz and he you
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know he he he send he just dunks on
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Dersowitz in the most um
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judicious of ways, you know. Um, it was
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actually quite quite nice to see. He was
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ready for it. There was nothing that Dur
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could say that tripped him up. Yeah,
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that was great. But I I don't I'm
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honestly,
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you know, I'm still kind of I don't
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know. Am I career transitioning? Like,
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am I adding things to what I'm doing?
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I'm not exactly sure how to describe any
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of this, but it's still a process,
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whatever it is, right?
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Um,
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if the Cornell case doesn't end up being
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criminal, and we shall see, although new
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revelations don't seem to paint the best
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picture about whether or not the
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investigation was done correctly, um, I
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think that's still very much an ongoing
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thing, but we shall the governor of New
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York, Kathy Hokll, uh, appointed a
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special prosecutor, a special um special
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I, forgive me the formal title, special
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prosecutor, special investigator. I
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think it's prosecutor, but it's Leticia
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James. Um, so
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they kind of mean business with that.
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And she even said explicitly in her
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statement, I read the governor's
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statement, explicitly in her statement,
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she said that she doesn't trust the
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local district attorney who initially
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oversaw the case. So, I don't even know
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what the criminality of that will
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ultimately be, but that is that seems
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like a pretty important development.
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Um, I I I've sort of been thinking about
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this. I mean, on the one hand, I I I it
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just seems naive to be like
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the contours of present- day um,
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you know, again, if it rises to the
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level of criminality, but this is some
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form of sexual violence, right? Again,
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they prayed on her.
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you know, it's it's sort of just
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extremely naive to imagine that that
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that like this is, you know, some kind
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of development of the postsocial media
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era. This is unfortunately this kind of
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thing on one variety or another has
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probably existed um you know since the
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dawn of the sexes themselves,
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unfortunately.
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But at the same time, I think there's a
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few things to kind of consider here.
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First of all, I say this is someone who
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was in a fratern fraternity,
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a fraternity,
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these are these are problem
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organizations.
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These are problem organizations. If your
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organization is involved in something
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like this, even if again it doesn't rise
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to the level of criminality, you're you
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don't have to destroy the entire
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national fraternity, but that local
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chapter should be nuked. Um, and I think
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there's a question of like to what
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extent. I mean this is going to vary
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campus to campus and place to place but
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in certain areas where the houses are on
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campus and then the school and controls
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them in some way you know you have to
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kind of consider what the merits of that
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are. I mean pushing it off campus has
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its own set of risks but facilitating
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that kind of thing within the uh the the
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college itself I think is a very
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questionable call. Beyond that, in terms
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of the men themselves,
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uh it's hard.
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It's imposs rather I should say it's
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impossible for me to imagine that what
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you're looking at is not influenced by
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the like these guys learning about
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sexuality through porn from their
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earliest days. They grew up in an
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environment that's extremely porn rich.
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Um, and I again I'm not trying to
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moralize about like there's no place in
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society for this kind of a thing, but
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surely as a teaching and guidance tool
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for adolescent and young men seems
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deeply not suited for that job, right? I
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think that plays a role here. Um, I
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think the inability of the existing
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systems to properly identify and
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look into accusations of sexual violence
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is also a component. But getting back to
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the men, um,
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you know, they,
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how do I say this?
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I I'm not exactly sure what to add from
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there, but
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um
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they
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you know with those Snapchat messages
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and then you know subsequent
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correspondence with Jane Doe.
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Um,
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you know, these are
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these are not people who I think
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have, you know, look look how far
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removed they are from being able to
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develop romantic bonds with a woman, you
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know, and I mean like as you know,
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relative equals. Like look how far away
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they are from that. And again, this is
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not new. I I I I saw a version of this
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kind of behavior. I don't know that it
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amounted to this. No, I'm quite certain
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that it didn't amount to a level of
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criminality, but um you know,
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nevertheless, like the some of the
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depravity of it, you know,
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unfortunately,
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I'm aware that some of that stuff takes
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place in the Marine Corps, too. But, you
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know, these again are places where there
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are like totally unequal relationships
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in
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um power dynamics between the genders
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themselves.
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And I just think it speaks to a present
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era like where all of the leadership
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that they've seen politically is all
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grabbing by the [ __ ] and this kind of
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you know blowback to me tooism.
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And again that's not to say that there
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weren't excesses in any kind of one
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political movement. But I you know I'll
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just kind of end here which is there is
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just very very clearly if you're looking
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at the state of young men and like what
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is ailing and troubling them there's a
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lot of things you could do. Problem
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gambling is one of them. um you know the
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pornification of their entire sense of
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gender dynamics and sexual dynamics.
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These are these are all problems. It it
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it's just very difficult for me to
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believe that um we can fix at large a
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lot of existing social problems that are
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um often exacerbated by disparities in
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gender outcomes
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and um
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without really addressing what's ailing
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people like this. And I'm not saying
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this in a sympathetic I mean like we got
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to fix that, right? Not like, oh, we got
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to, you know, nurse them back to health.
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I don't mean that exactly. I mean like
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we are allowing a level of sickness to
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overtake
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u their influences.
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Have you seen the rights response to the
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Cornell situation? No. At this point, is
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it even political? Seems they're just
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committed to taking the most evil stance
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possible. Also, it's hot as [ __ ] here in
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LA. Uh, I I did not know what
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temperature it was in LA. Um,
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what was I going to say here? Hold on.
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Um,
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no. I mean, you know what's kind of
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funny is some of my favorite left-wing
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writers or
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pundits is one way to describe some of
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them. Academics in certain cases, for
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other ones, investigative journals. Some
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of my favorite ones they you'll notice
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that the left spends a lot of time
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critiquing the kind of center left or um
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you know things not to their own left,
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everything of that right, but not
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necessarily a ton of time on the right
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itself. And it's it's one of these weird
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paradoxes because it's like well why are
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you spending all your time critiquing
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something that's actually closer to you
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uh politically, right? Because in if
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there's some kind of a spectrum,
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centrist dems, neoliberalism, something
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like that would be closer to the earnest
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progressive left than you know anything
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right-wing related. But the answer is
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obvious, which is that that portion of
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the left just sees the right as
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hopeless, right? Critiquing the center
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left matters because these might be part
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of your relevant political coalitions.
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Uh these might be folks who are in
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charge of the flow of information,
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right? within your, you know, media
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institutions, right? It makes sense to
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want to lean on those because you can
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actually have potentially, at least in
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theory, some kind of an effect. But on
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the right, no. You know, like, dude,
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they'll freak out about anything.
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They'll get mad. Like, they'll yell
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about everything. You know, it's just
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you can't It's hard to take very much of
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that serious. This is the funny thing,
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too, is like it's like how are people in
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MAGA
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still calling other people stupid?
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Like y'all know you can't do that,
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right? You know what I mean? Like it's
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the the most like the most low IQ
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political movement certainly in my
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lifetime.
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Avowidedly hostile to education,
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hostile to knowledge, hostile to
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educational institutions, hostile to
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education achievement,
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uh, utterly committed to blind loyalty
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and tribal identification and not in any
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way committed to inquiry. And
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I'm sorry, y'all are the ones accusing
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others of having intelligence issues.
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I don't think that's going to work.
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I don't think that's going to work. The
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party that through phony ideas and even
19:52
worse solutions has brought misery to
19:56
the world as their political project was
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set free. These are the people accusing
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other people of issues.
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I don't know gang. I I don't I don't I
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don't think that works.
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LTI I'm so tired of Nerra Tanden,
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Shannon Watson, Sarah Longwell who
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literally ranked Ted Cruz over mom
20:14
Donnie. Their hatred for Hassan is
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enraging. their hatred for Hassan is
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really just sort of at this point
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pathological. Like Shannon Watts is like
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every day he's out there
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um
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you know
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going after women and being racist and
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I'm like again I'm not like hardcore
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paying attention to what Hassan is doing
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but I haven't seen much of that.
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I don't know what you're talking about.
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Sarah Longwell I have mixed feelings on
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because I do think that she does want
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some things that are in alignment with
20:48
things that I also want and I also like
20:50
Tim Miller uh of the bull work but at
20:53
the same time this was you know Sarah
20:55
I'm sorry but you recommended that Kamla
21:00
campaign with Liz Cheney I mean this is
21:02
not I think I think there's a question
21:04
of what kind of influence we should
21:06
allow never Trumpers basically to have
21:09
within Democratic politics
21:11
Um
21:13
I yeah I I think you know big tents win
21:18
and make big coalitions and big
21:20
coalitions win big elections.
21:22
Okay, that's true, you know, but
21:27
um I I think one of the concerns I think
21:29
I that I would express and I've
21:30
expressed this I think on this chat in
21:32
previous iterations,
21:34
which is that I'm a little bit concerned
21:37
that as you're seeing some of these
21:38
progressive insurgent candidates really
21:41
make a move. Abdul sayed, Angie Nixon
21:44
appears to be getting some some real
21:46
push uh with her campaign. um you know
21:50
these kinds of forces as the mainstream
21:54
of the Democratic party and its you know
21:57
Senate Democratic fundraising
21:58
institutions began to embrace her which
22:00
I found out today that they did for
22:02
Angie Nixon. Are they also trying to
22:05
co-opt in a way as to defang them? you
22:09
know, are they putting so much pressure
22:10
on Abdul say that he is gonna be forced
22:13
to walk back many of the things that he
22:16
had said he intended to do in terms of
22:18
policy towards Israel. I mean, I think
22:21
that that's what they're all trying and
22:24
um I'm very concerned even even if the
22:26
never Trumpers weren't a part of that. I
22:28
would be concerned about that right now
22:30
anyway from centrist stems. And so that
22:32
kind of magnifies it for me. like
22:34
there's a lot of forces, ideological,
22:36
financial, um, political forces and
22:40
beyond kind of converging to I think
22:43
what they're now what the what the Dems
22:44
are seeing is there is a kind of
22:46
insurgent energy that if that it is
22:48
harnessed could win them elections, but
22:50
they want to do it while defanging the
22:52
kinds of, you know, the many of the
22:55
things that I think have built their
22:56
momentum and have made them look
22:58
authentic and like reliable. um whether
23:02
they will in the end and how they govern
23:05
I think is a separate question as well.
23:07
But this is kind of where I'm at. So I I
23:09
understand you know some of the push
23:12
back against the Bullwork folks. Again I
23:13
like Tim Miller. Shouts to Tim Miller. I
23:14
think he's a cool dude. Um but I am I am
23:18
also worried about I I I I there is just
23:21
an overwhelming amount of evidence that
23:24
suggests meaningful right now especially
23:26
meaningful reforms related to um
23:30
healthcare education
23:33
um you know potentially a jobs act as
23:36
well. just a lot of moves of a kind of
23:40
muscular progressivism that meet the
23:42
urgency of the moment and frankly what
23:44
the political system requires to survive
23:47
and maintain any legitimacy. We have
23:49
significant social problems that need a
23:52
a radical rethinking of how we address
23:54
it and any kind of peacemeal
23:57
incrementalism is simply just going to
23:58
ruin what could be made of this moment.
24:01
And I've told you guys before like I'm
24:02
actually, you know, yes, of course I do
24:05
not wish for MAGA to win elections in
24:06
any capacity whatsoever. But like just
24:08
because the Dems might be winning
24:10
elections, I might be winning a big
24:11
elections and and again I think the
24:12
bigger it gets, the more momentum that
24:15
some ideas might have. So like obviously
24:16
the like yes, we want as many of those
24:18
as possible, but like I am concerned
24:21
about how they're going to govern if
24:22
this insurgent energy gets neutered, you
24:24
know, because they've made Abdul say,
24:26
you know, go out there with Kamala and
24:28
you know, again, he's his own man. and
24:29
he can make his own choices. But there
24:30
was certainly pressure on him to reach
24:32
towards mainstream uh figures within the
24:34
party, women within the party, right?
24:36
Because all these sort of phony
24:37
accusations about misogyny and whatnot.
24:40
You know, this is what I mean like just
24:41
constantly leaning on him. And takes a
24:44
lot of guts to stand up to that. And I
24:46
hope he I hope he's able to do that.
24:49
What do you make of Secretary of
24:50
Defense's state of the force? I mean,
24:53
state of the farce. Dude, you this guy
24:54
this guy is out here talking about
24:56
Project Meridian
24:58
and the future of warfare. Although some
24:59
of these are not necessarily related,
25:01
but like you know we're going to put
25:04
together on a project Nuke Gingrage,
25:06
Elon Musk and Palmer Lucky. I'm like,
25:09
"Oh my god,
25:12
dude."
25:14
I know for a fact that there was a point
25:15
in time in the 2000s in DC that when N.
25:19
Gingrich was hired for events to speak
25:22
at them. He demanded that his bio read
25:25
that he was a thought leader.
25:29
Um I'm like I don't know anybody that
25:32
thinks that left or right. You know
25:35
that's nobody thinks that. It's like oh
25:38
they think Luke is uh you know I don't
25:41
know
25:43
young female and cool. It's like no I
25:46
don't think anyone thinks that. you
25:48
know, that's that's not a really it's
25:50
not an issue I really run into
25:51
frequently.
25:54
Um, so I mean that was ridiculous. And
25:56
then he does this like slam poetry.
25:59
No beardos, no weirdos, no what was it?
26:02
No um no fatties, no [ __ ] No
26:07
beardos, no weirdos.
26:10
And then it was like only heroes or
26:12
something, you know. And I think he
26:14
thought he was out there cooking,
26:16
you And it's just one of it's like have
26:18
you guys ever seen the original office
26:20
the office from England like the two se
26:21
the two season version before the
26:23
American one and there's a scene where
26:25
David Brent is doing like a dance in
26:27
front of his colleagues and he thinks he
26:29
killed it and he's like biting on his
26:31
lip like dude that's
26:33
that's Pete Hexth. Dude, this was a this
26:35
guy I've like the reason I know who Pete
26:38
Hexath is is because his level of
26:40
accomplishment in the officer corps is
26:42
about what I was around as an enlisted
26:44
man within the Marine Corps. like you'd
26:46
be around, you know, captains and maybe
26:48
majors in general. So, you like a
26:50
company or like low-level fieldgrade
26:52
officer and, you know, these were guys
26:55
who, you know,
26:58
you weren't getting the guys coming out
26:59
of the servicemies. Let's just put it
27:01
that way. And, you know, they could do
27:04
some stuff at a fairly low level and
27:05
they just made this [ __ ] guy
27:06
secretary. I mean, you just can't. It's
27:09
like, dude, how are you giving us advice
27:12
on what makes the military better at
27:14
what it does while not only are you
27:17
actively at the present moment losing a
27:20
war, but you're losing a war that
27:24
credible academic
27:27
and other observers are suggesting
27:30
historically might be the biggest
27:34
fumble, error of judgment in American
27:38
history
27:40
and you're trying. He's like, "Oh, we
27:43
don't have any more, you know, we got no
27:45
more of the trans ideology." I'm like,
27:47
"M, you might need some if they're good
27:49
at warf planning. You might want to
27:52
consider rehiring them." Uh because
27:55
whoever you've got,
27:58
it's not working. You know, it's not
28:00
it's not really working. And you just
28:02
it's like I can't
28:05
it's all of these guys are just
28:07
influencers. They all just kind of want
28:09
to be seen. They all want to look cool,
28:12
whatever that mean whatever looking cool
28:14
means to them. They want to have a vis
28:17
visual um through your phone kind of
28:20
relationship to the audience. They want
28:21
to be influencers. They want to have hit
28:23
like and they want to be able to say hit
28:25
like and subscribe. I mean that that's
28:27
what they want. They nothing more than
28:28
to be nourished by that experience
28:31
spiritually and you know in every other
28:34
way possible. You know these are not
28:36
these are not people with ary addition
28:38
about their job. These are not people
28:40
that have wisdom about the world and
28:42
these are clearly people who have
28:43
brought us to the point of potential
28:45
ruin. Yeah, that's what I thought of it.
28:49
How hard would you go at Scott Jennings
28:51
if you were both on CNN together? Well,
28:53
I would say this. It would probably
28:55
depend on what he said. Although that
28:57
wouldn't make it that hard, but
29:01
you know, you have to ask yourself a
29:02
question. Do you want to dunk on someone
29:04
and then never so bad that you never get
29:06
invited back or do you want to dunk on
29:07
them threequarters of the way there and
29:10
then you actually it's still it's still
29:11
not enough for it's over the line. Um I
29:14
don't get paid everyone who's asking.
29:16
No, I do not get paid. I do not have any
29:18
kind of deal or arrangement. It's just
29:20
do you want to come on or not. It's the
29:22
beginning and the end of it. Um, so I
29:25
would kind of let him let me know what
29:27
kind of, you know,
29:31
if you're feeling froggy kind of jump
29:33
situation, like what's it going to look
29:34
like? You know, I don't imagine that I
29:36
would be on a panel with him anytime
29:37
soon. So, I wouldn't really worry about
29:39
it.
29:41
Uh, do you believe that the Supreme
29:42
Court has a crisis of legitimacy? I've
29:43
seen, excuse me, a crisis of legitimacy.
29:46
I've seen Kolinsky argue that even if
29:47
DSA candidate wins, reforming the court
29:49
is a must. Yes, of course. I fully
29:51
agree, guys. though just going to take
29:53
any any piece of Okay, so let's let's
29:55
imagine the scenario. It's January of
29:58
2026.
30:00
Um let's say February even. So
30:01
everything's sworn in. It's all done. Um
30:04
and the Dems retake the House and they
30:06
retake the Senate. I don't know how
30:07
likely this is, but let's just let's
30:08
let's imagine that's what we've done.
30:10
Okay, they made gains. Angie Nixon was
30:12
in Florida, Abdul Sayed perhaps in uh
30:15
Michigan, maybe they had gains in maybe
30:17
Terico wins in Texas. Maybe Graham loses
30:20
in South Carolina. Any number of things
30:22
you could point to.
30:24
Now, let's also say that they have a
30:26
bold agenda. We're going to pass some
30:28
kind of version of Medicare for all.
30:29
We're going to put this together. We're
30:30
going to get it through the House. We're
30:31
going to get it through the Senate. And
30:32
then we're going to send it to the
30:33
president's desk. Like, obviously, um
30:36
let's see let's imagine he he'll veto
30:38
it. let's say that the that the that the
30:40
winds are so overwhelming in November
30:42
that they can even override the veto.
30:44
It's not going to matter. They're going
30:46
to challenge it in the Supreme Court.
30:47
And I think we all know what's going to
30:48
happen. I I I made this is one of the
30:50
one of the arguments that I made quite
30:51
poorly today on the air. I did not like
30:53
my argument. Um but what I was trying to
30:56
articulate was that like they're just a
30:57
partisan body at this point. And I and I
30:59
realize that you can get individual
31:01
instances where you can read a Gorsuch,
31:04
you know, kind of libertarianesque
31:06
interpretation of something where you
31:07
can tell there is at least some
31:08
adherence to principle even if it might
31:11
be consistent over the course of all of
31:12
his various judgments. Yes, I recognize
31:14
as much. Um, but you know, the fact that
31:17
birthright citizenship barely gets over
31:19
the finish line in a situation that you
31:23
know is it's virtually, you know, nearly
31:26
unanimous.
31:28
um within the American judicial system
31:30
that that is a part of American like
31:34
clearly American law and that like I
31:37
want you to imagine a notion like this
31:39
this barely got through like it got
31:41
through but barely and there's plenty of
31:43
carveouts now that can be made as well
31:44
if the administration decides to do that
31:47
but the point I want to make is I want
31:48
you to think about what that like the
31:49
implication of this is not merely like a
31:50
sort of a partisan agreement um and
31:53
remember they they're resistant to
31:54
ethics reforms like who which political
31:56
side Currently speaking, because of
31:58
course there's been enormous corruption
32:00
on both, but currently speaking, which
32:01
side is the one that is the most
32:03
disdainful of oversight of corruption,
32:05
right? I think it's a pretty obvious
32:06
argument, but the point I'm trying to
32:07
make back to uh the situation is if
32:10
they're challenging everything and
32:12
everything is getting shot down. Um, how
32:16
can you meaningfully pass legislation?
32:19
They're just going to challenge it.
32:20
They're going to throw it up there and
32:21
then you're going to lose. How are you
32:23
going to advance anything unless there
32:25
is a court reform?
32:28
Um,
32:30
if the president of the United States
32:32
can write a memo and then all of a
32:34
sudden
32:36
citizenship just doesn't mean what it
32:37
meant before, I that's not real.
32:41
That's not real. The president doesn't
32:43
have those powers and that's not legal
32:45
according to our constitution anyway.
32:48
a president of the United States can
32:50
just write a [ __ ] memo and all of a
32:52
sudden immigration is different now and
32:54
in not just that the notion and the
32:56
concept and the legal ramifications of
32:58
citizenship is different now like no the
33:00
[ __ ] he can't he can't just write a on
33:02
his typewriter fire that out and do that
33:05
that's that's just insane uh and it
33:08
barely got over the finish line that's
33:10
the that's the nicest I can be about
33:12
what they have done and the principles
33:13
by which they have made these choices
33:19
So in a world where even if you win
33:23
electorally, if your effort at reforming
33:26
the country is simply just going to be
33:28
shut down because of what they can dress
33:31
up in law language, but what really is
33:34
a, you know, a kind of way to smuggle in
33:37
their partisanship,
33:39
you can't do anything.
33:43
You can't you can't govern that way.
33:46
And this happened to Obama pretty
33:47
significantly. And this is also part of
33:50
the reason why Trump, again, I made this
33:52
point before, is why Trump uses so many
33:53
executive orders. Yes, it is unfortunate
33:55
how many he does, but he didn't set this
33:56
precedent. And of course, Obama didn't
33:58
set it either, but he really took it
33:59
into overdrive because he faced so many
34:01
legislative headwinds that he felt that
34:03
that was the only way he could
34:04
meaningfully advance um certain portions
34:06
of his agenda. And now it's just become
34:09
this kind of standard practice to the
34:10
point where like literally Trump is like
34:11
I'm just going to write a memo and say
34:12
birth right citizenship doesn't mean
34:13
what it has meant for 150 years like
34:16
what the f what
34:18
you know it it's that's not real that's
34:20
not a thing and they almost did it you
34:23
know so um
34:27
you just have to ask what you're willing
34:28
to do to address the needs that society
34:31
needs addressing.
34:34
How serious do you take dem hopes for
34:36
Texas and Iowa? Iowa. I have not paid
34:38
attention to Texas. I think 50/50.
34:41
Um it's a completely conservative place
34:44
and I will say that there's been an
34:46
enormous recent amount of spend um ad
34:48
money in Texas, but you know, Texas has
34:50
some funky rules about like 30 days out,
34:52
what you can and can't do. Um and you
34:55
know what I think there's there there's
34:57
a bunch of interesting rules about um
34:59
television ads in the Texas market. But
35:02
even with that, they're they're now
35:04
finally Paxton has finally put together
35:06
some ads. Again, that one I saw that was
35:07
AI was I can see how someone on the
35:09
right might find that um useful. You
35:12
might be asking, well, how do you get
35:14
people like
35:16
understand part of what the right is
35:19
trying to do is just also make sure that
35:21
turnout is there. Even if they lose in
35:23
certain ways, you can buffer the the
35:26
more competitive races out by just
35:28
having a normal amount of right-wing
35:29
turnout. Remember the formula would be,
35:32
you know, or at least the what you're
35:33
trying to achieve would be you got to
35:35
get all the Dems out. You got to turn a
35:37
bunch of the uh independents and then
35:40
you got to make sure MAGA not boycots
35:42
per se, but doesn't doesn't feel
35:45
motivated to go to the polls, right?
35:46
Stays home. And you have to be able to
35:49
do all three of those. Um, so I've not
35:51
paid attention to the Iowa race, but I
35:53
can see why some of this that some of
35:54
that spin can be competitive in a very
35:56
conservative state. But I think
35:57
Telerico's got a fighting chance, you
35:59
know. Um I've paid more attention to the
36:02
polling in
36:04
uh Michigan.
36:08
Uh the social contract between proa
36:10
autocrats and the populace is usually
36:11
categorized as based on the low cost of
36:13
gas. They do whatever they want as long
36:15
as the gas is cheap. The US appears to
36:17
be the same.
36:20
Um well what I would say is is that
36:23
people's assessment of their
36:27
um
36:32
I think there is heightened
36:33
consciousness about being priced out of
36:36
things that we know for a fact you
36:38
didn't used to be priced out of and what
36:43
what there's heightened awareness about
36:44
what kinds of things the government
36:46
could do to ameliate that. you're asking
36:49
they do whatever they want as long as
36:50
the gas is cheap. Um certainly there is
36:54
a more permissive attitude among the
36:57
electorate when times are good
37:00
economically. Again, I mean just sort of
37:02
this is a play on human psychology. It
37:04
doesn't work for everyone, but this is
37:05
partly what the Emirates pre-Iran war
37:08
was the bargain. It's like you don't
37:10
have a lot of political freedom here,
37:11
but there's basically no street crime
37:13
and life can be quite nice. That won't
37:15
work for everyone. free societies are
37:18
messier societies, but they're more
37:20
dynamic.
37:21
Um, and that also won't work for
37:24
everyone. But yes, there is something to
37:25
be said for the level of complacency
37:27
that can be achieved through material
37:30
um, either maintenance or a
37:33
grandisement.
37:36
Wal Bell was spitting bars last night at
37:38
Stanford. Didn't pull any punches,
37:40
including some at Stanford. Was also
37:42
enhanced by the plethora of substances
37:44
that were in my system. Much love. Thank
37:46
you. Uh I appreciate that, my friend.
37:48
Yeah, I've seen Kamal a few times. He's
37:50
Dude, he he I saw I was like I saw him
37:54
at the Kennedy Center in January right
37:56
after Trump got inaugurated. It was the
37:58
it was the last show before Trump took
38:01
it over. Um and then the second time I
38:04
saw him was at the was it the uh what's
38:07
the joint in Bethesda?
38:10
Was it the Swathmore the theater out
38:13
there? And which was like crazy nice. I
38:16
don't get out to Bethesda very often,
38:17
but
38:19
news flash, Bethesda, Maryland's really
38:21
nice. All right. I work in a field full
38:23
of alphas with the Cornell case subject
38:25
matter. I ask, do you even do you want
38:27
your daughter in the military? No. Even
38:29
alone with a coach. Not Not right now.
38:33
Why is that? Because there is a because
38:35
there is a fear you refuse to name. No,
38:38
it's not. I re I fear for
38:42
um
38:44
spaces of you know and institutions of
38:47
male leadership and or permissive you
38:50
know cultural environments that men
38:53
dominate and what that what happens to
38:54
women in those systems. I'm not afraid
38:57
of it. I'll say it outright. I'm like I
38:59
I'm literally identifying it for you. I
39:02
don't hide from that. Um again that
39:05
doesn't mean she won't. You know, that
39:07
doesn't mean to say that's never going
39:08
to happen. It's ultimately her choices.
39:09
But like what would I encourage? I would
39:11
encourage to operate and live in a world
39:14
that
39:16
um that she wants to do and that makes
39:18
her happy and that brings her
39:19
fulfillment, but that I think also
39:21
long-term considerations about safety
39:23
should probably go into that as well.
39:26
Uh this gentleman writes, "I appreciate
39:28
you." Thank you. I appreciate you. This
39:30
person writes, "There was a recent
39:32
article about Shawn Ryan flipping his
39:34
support for Trump, but it's because
39:35
Trump is quote not doing what he
39:36
promised." End quote. I feel people like
39:38
Ryan should not be given grace. Am I
39:40
wrong? I don't know exactly what they
39:41
mean. I mean, part of that
39:44
part of that is um
39:49
the Epstein files not being a
39:51
commitment, which again believing that
39:54
Trump would honor any commitment given
39:56
that his entire life pre-presidency and
40:00
during the first administration itself
40:02
like promises made, promises kept only
40:04
only for the inflicting of damage on
40:07
political rivals, but not in terms of
40:09
honoring deals and things like that. The
40:11
guy is notorious for this. He is
40:13
notorious for his in stiffing
40:16
contractors and people who you left
40:19
holding the bag at his phony for-profit
40:22
university. I mean he's this is this is
40:23
sort of a known thing by him. So I mean
40:27
any level of confidence in Trump is just
40:29
automatically like okay all right I mean
40:31
this is a problem right now. Um but
40:34
specifically like he didn't do what he
40:36
said on that. And then I think also just
40:38
kind of giving in to the desires of the
40:41
geopolitical aims of Israel I think has
40:44
been um disorienting for them. But you
40:48
know I don't really hear them
40:49
complaining much about the mass
40:50
deportation campaign. I think there's
40:51
just a lot of I they they seem to think
40:54
that that's just going to liberate them.
40:56
Um, you know, it's very funny like one
40:59
of the things you keep seeing is like
41:00
it's like, oh, conservative guy voted
41:02
for Trump and then his wife from the
41:04
Philippines gets deported and now
41:06
everyone's all sad and it's like, yeah,
41:07
I I don't think those are great either.
41:09
I think those are very, very sad. But
41:10
then you'll see the comments being like,
41:11
you know, you got what you voted for.
41:13
And then the you'll hear the people say
41:15
being like, you know, I just never
41:16
thought it would happen to me and I
41:18
never expected it to to to oh I thought
41:21
there, you know, they just sort of
41:22
expressed that they had never considered
41:23
the dimensions to what the policy would
41:25
do to people until it did it to them.
41:27
They have no sense of of anything other
41:30
than immediate self- return. And I think
41:35
if that's the way that the right has to
41:38
learn, then we have a lot of learning
41:39
left in front of us.
41:45
Luke, have you ever heard of a
41:46
documentary called Dominion made in
41:48
2018, narrated and I think produced by
41:50
Waqin Phoenix? No. Available in full on
41:52
YouTube. It's very tough uh watch but
41:54
life-changing. No, I've not seen it. Are
41:56
we already living through World War II?
41:58
No. No. No. We are not living through
42:00
World War II. we are perhaps on the
42:02
brink of various forms of potential
42:04
conflict but uh or I should say
42:06
additional conflict but um and some of
42:10
that feels you know when Ukraine was
42:12
kind of getting involved in
42:15
the theater of the Iran war I was like
42:18
that feels ominous but that seems to
42:20
have mostly died down I think I don't
42:22
know
42:25
we're not there yet is the answer
42:30
been appreciating your work since I
42:31
asked if you noticed your head nod after
42:33
taking a drink of something as in the
42:35
movie Do the Right Thing, Fight the
42:37
Power, or at least continue your
42:38
excellent coverage of their hypocrisy.
42:40
Thank you, my friend. I appreciate that.
42:42
What happened to anti- monopoly laws?
42:44
They're on the books. They're just not
42:46
enforced.
42:48
They're just not enforced. We are we as
42:51
a society have taken a radically
42:53
permissive attitude on vertical
42:56
integration
42:58
on corporate consolidation
43:00
on um I think there's been a roll back
43:03
in the safety of what kind of financial
43:04
instruments and financial practices that
43:07
we allow to fund many of these projects
43:10
sources of funding particularly in this
43:12
paramount and Warner Brothers deal 49.5%
43:14
of it essentially being from the Kingdom
43:16
of Saudi Arabia Qatar UAE Um there's
43:19
just all kinds of roll backs in safety
43:22
best best practices about uh managing
43:24
risk and more importantly you know the
43:28
the idea that there has been something
43:31
lost like somehow antitrust turned into
43:34
you're not letting companies unleash
43:36
themselves and what they could be rather
43:38
than if you don't bring them to heal
43:40
we're going to turn from a positive
43:43
contributor to the economy and to the
43:45
job sector in any number of different
43:47
respects
43:48
and we're going to make it like
43:50
malignant.
43:51
Uh we're going to make it now begin to
43:53
have to metastasize. Uh it's to keep it
43:56
from metastasizing. That's and then once
43:58
it does to break that up to then allow
44:00
for a healthier process, a robust
44:02
competitive process. Uh all those things
44:04
are on the books. They are there. They
44:06
are there. Lena Khan wrote in the New
44:07
York Times this week about for example
44:09
regulating AI and what she says is yes
44:11
there could be some uh as as we get as
44:14
as MMA sorry MMA as AI regulation gets
44:17
more um
44:21
gets more uh precise and as we
44:25
understand the technology better there
44:26
could be some customization around what
44:28
kinds of ways that we regulate it
44:30
relative to what existing
44:33
um levers of power we can pull on it to
44:35
regulate it But what she's trying to
44:36
point out is we have plenty of
44:38
regulatory tools we can use right now.
44:40
Consumer protection laws, faulty product
44:42
laws. I mean, any number of ways you can
44:44
begin to um to do that. Um it's all
44:47
there. It's just a question of the
44:49
political will. And you know, I just
44:50
think it's I think Trump has really
44:52
destroyed the idea that like, oh,
44:53
there's a you know, a pro-working right.
44:57
It's like
45:00
I'm I do believe that there are people
45:01
on the right who are pro-working class,
45:03
of course, but as a leadership position,
45:06
as a policy enactment, we're like on the
45:08
other completely other side of what a
45:11
project like that would even look like.
45:15
I'm not saying that flight was 100%
45:17
false flag, but Israel doesn't deserve
45:19
the benefit of the doubt when they ask
45:20
us to believe something they say. Yes, I
45:22
I I have not had a chance to look into
45:24
the specifics of it. We're talking about
45:26
the flight where there was like, you
45:27
know, a stabbing and they had to
45:31
freef fall and
45:33
I'm not going to make any claims about
45:35
it until I've had a chance to review
45:36
evidence, but I would agree that, you
45:37
know, taking them at face value seems
45:39
unwise. Time magazine out out an put out
45:45
an unedited interview with Trump and
45:47
it's incredible. Reading his words
45:48
instead of listening shows the dementia,
45:50
plain and simple. Man, if you just watch
45:55
I've said this before, any kind of
45:57
debate from 2016, like when he was
45:58
running against Jeb Bush and whatnot,
46:00
and compare that to now, it is a
46:03
unrecognizable almost difference. He was
46:06
much quicker, much more lucid, much more
46:10
active. That has that has taken a hit.
46:16
To be clear, I'm more conservative than
46:18
you, but I'm genuinely concerned about
46:19
the conservative reaction to the Cornell
46:21
story. At the very least, those boys had
46:23
a responsibility to look after that
46:24
lady. Yeah, I don't I've not seen the
46:27
conservative response. But again, dude,
46:28
like you got to kind of come to terms
46:30
what the modern conservative movement
46:32
is. This is not the party of William and
46:34
Buckley. You can remain in that if
46:35
that's the place that you know feels and
46:38
I don't know if that's your politics,
46:39
but you know that would be something
46:40
that would be I could work with some
46:42
version of that I suppose as like a what
46:45
the right would look like, but that is
46:46
not what the right is. The the I mean
46:48
the modern right this is a movement.
46:51
This is a a movement of resentment. Um,
46:55
you know,
46:58
it's white grievance basically. I mean,
47:00
that's not the only dimension to it.
47:01
There's more to it than that certainly,
47:02
but that is a key key component of the
47:04
MAGA movement, less so just a full-on
47:06
right, but certainly the MAGA movement.
47:08
Um, but you know, like the like we've
47:10
got these, you know, uh, how do I say
47:12
this exactly?
47:14
look at where
47:20
I just think it's naive to look at the
47:22
modern right and then expect them to
47:24
come to a place where they've got a
47:25
humane response to female victimization.
47:30
That's just not what they're going to
47:31
do. Not the American right. I mean maybe
47:34
there's I you know I don't know how this
47:36
shakes out across borders but like what
47:39
about what you've seen from MAGA which
47:41
is basically has taken over the entire
47:42
Republican party. What have you seen
47:44
from them that makes you think that they
47:46
value mercy? They called empathy
47:48
suicide.
47:50
You know
47:53
that this is the logical conclusion of a
47:55
worldview that believes that.
48:01
Thoughts on Brace and Liz from True
48:03
Anon? I don't I've not heard them.
48:05
Everyone tells me that they're m they're
48:07
great. If you're not a listener, please
48:08
still listen to episode 562 with Jake
48:10
Rom of the Henry Joab Foundation. I've
48:12
got to People have told me good things
48:14
about them, but I I just don't know.
48:16
Following Brazil's election, I saw that
48:18
they closed all US consulates and
48:21
embassies. I think they closed embassies
48:23
in Brazil, you know, like I mean, you
48:28
know, among a series of other things
48:30
that they are doing like just very clear
48:32
election interference by the US. They
48:34
want to dominate the South. They are so
48:36
desperate for uh hemispheric dominance.
48:39
They want Cuba, they want Brazil to
48:40
fall, they got Colombia to fall. I don't
48:43
know if you guys are noticing this, Braz
48:44
uh Bolivia is falling into dictatorship.
48:47
Um certainly you can make a similar
48:49
claim about Ecuador. Peru is kind of
48:52
chugging along, I guess, although
48:53
they're, you know, they've been pushed
48:55
to the right as well. Um,
48:58
Argentina, need I say more, like they
49:00
could end up dominating all of the
49:02
Spanish speaking continent from the
49:03
right and and and Brazil, too.
49:06
Yesterday's debate was canceled. If you
49:08
want more info, I'd be happy to help via
49:10
email. Oh, why did they cancel it?
49:12
Because someone said there was also like
49:13
a fake scandal about the B one of the
49:15
Bolsinaros doing some some religious
49:18
scandal. I saw that as well. But
49:23
oops.
49:25
It's wildly depressing to me that even
49:27
taking a principled stance against
49:29
things like sexual assault and racism is
49:31
considered political now. Yeah. It's not
49:33
even a debate over how we best address
49:35
these problems. Guys, the political
49:37
movement that was home to the
49:40
manosphere, why are we surprised that
49:42
they have retrograde attitudes about
49:44
female victimization?
49:50
This is the party of the manosphere. I
49:52
mean it doesn't like there's not
49:53
complete overlap like all parts of the
49:55
manosphere or all parts of the political
49:57
right but there obviously if there's any
49:59
ideological overlap it's not on the left
50:02
like what are we doing? What are we
50:04
doing?
50:09
Camal told the story behind the
50:11
performance at the Kennedy Center is one
50:12
of his closing stories. Yes, I was there
50:13
that day. So I was there that day.
50:17
I had quotes originally because I was
50:18
talking to my co-workers, not you, but
50:20
the character count was reached. Ah,
50:22
okay. No worries, dude. I appreciate it.
50:24
Not sure if you talked about it. I just
50:25
joined, but thoughts on Christa Pike
50:28
botched. Oh, yes. I talked about earlier
50:30
Christa Pike boxed
50:33
botched execution and capital punishment
50:35
in general. Um, basically my my in
50:39
principle, I don't think it's impossible
50:41
for me to imagine a legitimate case
50:43
where the state can take a life. Um, but
50:45
it's in the application of how that that
50:47
it comes about and in the way there's
50:49
not there's not really a humane way to
50:51
do it. And as I mentioned in her
50:54
particular instance,
50:57
um, where they tried twice, but now she
50:59
is, you know, in some kind of critical
51:02
condition, I think is the way I last
51:03
heard it. I don't know what the most
51:04
recent update is,
51:07
that it would be a violation of the ETH
51:09
amendment to try and execute her again.
51:13
and uh you know and and you know
51:16
questions about obviously related to
51:19
cruel and unusual punishment. Um
51:23
so
51:26
I think that it's an unusual case I but
51:28
I think it shows also you know like the
51:30
incompetency of the death industry
51:32
within the state itself like not being
51:34
able to achieve this I think tells you
51:36
it's a skill issue and they're not very
51:38
good at it. Um, and I don't know that I
51:42
would want someone that is necessarily
51:44
good at it, but I guess I definitely
51:45
don't want someone who's bad at it
51:46
either.
51:47
Um,
51:49
I think that
51:52
Yeah. Yeah.
51:59
Did you see Irish people criticize Ed
52:01
Sheeran? Yes, I did. I saw a bunch of
52:03
that. Dude, the Irish are they are a
52:05
wise and civilized people. I have a lot
52:07
of respect for the Irish.
52:09
They they they the the the general
52:12
opinion among the Irish and of course
52:13
there's disagreement among them, but the
52:14
general sort of ones that seem to pop up
52:16
on my radar all show the Irish to be
52:19
based as hell. Heartbreaking in the wake
52:22
of everyone's favorite loophole KO. Sean
52:24
Sharf being MAGA shouldn't be
52:25
surprising, but still hurts. Lol.
52:28
Hearing him and Rogan talk about Trump
52:29
in the Iran war is enraging. This was
52:30
all predictable. I did not hear that. I
52:33
did hear I did see a clip talking about
52:35
Palestinian issues. I did not see um
52:38
that he was that he was MAGA. That's
52:40
again, dude, it's not really going to
52:42
matter who they are. Like nine and 10
52:45
fighters, if not more, are going to be
52:47
at least rightwing if not MAGA. Like if
52:50
you hear that one is not, that is like
52:53
that's the unicorn, you know? Not that
52:55
oh my god, I can't believe this one was,
52:57
you should you should be ready to
52:59
believe any of them could be. Not all of
53:02
them are. Not all of them are, but any
53:05
of them could be is just the way you
53:07
have to go now.
53:09
Uh, did you see any of the right-wing
53:11
outrage to the Sarah Huckabe Sanders
53:14
welfare ad? Yeah. I mean, the the the
53:18
right had a freak out about it because
53:20
they're like, "Oh, this isn't the this
53:23
isn't an example of who is on welfare,
53:25
but I don't think they like, you know,
53:27
they're freaking out because they're
53:28
like, oh, you know, proportionally, you
53:31
know, uh, minority populations take more
53:32
of it than whites do." And then, of
53:34
course, in aggregate, more people who
53:36
are on the welfare roles are are white
53:38
because, of course, there's more white
53:39
people. Um, so they're trying to make an
53:41
argument like, you know, oh, per capita
53:42
we do less kind of a thing. And it's
53:45
like I don't I just can't even honor
53:48
like you know what it's supposed to mean
53:51
that they're like they think that this
53:52
is evidence of racial superiority.
53:54
That's sort of what they mean. These are
53:56
people again this is an
53:57
anti-intellectual tradition incapable of
53:59
assessing the impact of systems and
54:02
historical choices on people and then
54:04
what outcomes these lead. To me the
54:06
bigger takeaway that I had from it was
54:08
that uh most people on welfare are
54:10
working.
54:12
They're not at home with an Oculus Rift
54:14
eating cheese balls. I mean, I'm sure
54:15
that happens on some occasion. There's
54:17
going to be welfare fraud there. Of
54:19
course, there will be people that gain
54:20
the system, of course, but we just know
54:22
because we have seen the work
54:24
requirements that have existed in
54:25
various places and we you can match this
54:27
up against the roles of who then
54:29
ultimately qualifies. Like a lot of the
54:31
ones who don't have work requirements
54:33
are like ones who are also disabled and
54:35
like work is almost impossible, you
54:37
know? But like most people on that [ __ ]
54:39
are working
54:41
and they didn't rage out about that.
54:43
They just this is a white guy. It can't
54:45
be this, you know. Um
54:48
again, it's like how how can this the
54:51
the organizing principle of what they're
54:54
agitating around is the advancement of
54:57
like as they see it as like white
54:59
identity and then the causes attendant
55:01
to it. This is the unifying worldview
55:04
and principle. But they want to tell you
55:06
if you say if you call them on it like
55:07
oh well you just want like you know this
55:08
is just a white a project for for for
55:10
for race. No this is we we have we have
55:13
deep rich political traditions and it
55:15
just happens to co you know a line along
55:18
these tracks like
55:21
you this is why Nick Fuentes is he's
55:24
he's going to go further in the right
55:27
than so many of the other ones because
55:28
he doesn't dress it up in any other kind
55:30
of pretension. This is about the
55:32
Buckleian tradition, you know, this is
55:35
about the Oakshot tradition of
55:37
conservatism.
55:38
You know, Edmund Burke and he's not he's
55:40
not calling upon any of that. He is
55:42
making an explicit argument that this
55:44
is, you know, we want to advance the
55:46
interest of white people. That's what
55:47
it's what he says he's about. And then
55:49
he makes his reasons for he doesn't try
55:51
and say, well, you know, I want to take
55:52
care of these kinds of things, but what
55:54
really is powering this is I believe in
55:56
objectivism from Rand. like no it's he
55:59
is honest and because of that he will
56:02
have currency for that within that
56:04
movement.
56:07
Okay boy working out perfectly. I would
56:10
like to call it a day. I muscled through
56:13
this. How about that [ __ ]
56:16
Thank you all so much for doing this. I
56:18
really appreciate it. Um
56:22
I'm going to try to keep doing these as
56:23
often as I can and I try to keep giving
56:25
you guys content as often as I can.
56:26
Thank you for your support. I greatly
56:28
appreciate all of it. And um I'll see
56:32
you next week. I love you all. MMA
56:34
coverage this weekend. And until next
56:36
time, I don't know. Go read some books.
56:39
Bye y'all.