Latest / PAMOJA PODCAST | PAMOJA MINISTRY, A LIFE OF CHRIST INTERNATIONAL MINISTRIES / REFINED FOR A PURPOSE — Conversation IX YOU MEANT IT FOR EVIL, BUT GOD MEANT IT FOR GOOD
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- 0:00Welcome back to our continuing conversation on
- 0:02Refine for a Purpose. In our last conversation,
- 0:09we talked about the places and circumstances
- 0:11God can use in our process. Sometimes the place
- 0:16that once preserved us is not the place where
- 0:18God intends us to remain. Sometimes God says,
- 0:22stay and grow. Sometimes stay and forgive. Sometimes
- 0:27stay and learn. sometimes wait, and sometimes
- 0:31move. We discovered that discomfort does not
- 0:35always mean that something has gone wrong. Sometimes
- 0:39discomfort can become part of God's process of
- 0:42preparation and repositioning. And we learned
- 0:46not to judge a season simply by how uncomfortable
- 0:49it feels, but to ask, God, what are you saying
- 0:54through this season? Because temporary, does
- 0:58not mean meaningless. And sometimes, before God
- 1:02changes the place around us, there is something
- 1:05He wants to change within us. But today, I want
- 1:10us to go one step further. Because there are
- 1:13moments in life when you look at what happened
- 1:16to you and there is simply no way to call it
- 1:19good. It hurt. It disappointed you. Someone betrayed
- 1:23you. Someone lied about you. Someone walked away
- 1:26from you. Someone deliberately tried to hurt
- 1:29you. You lost something you thought you needed.
- 1:32A door closed that you desperately wanted to
- 1:35remain open. You made decisions you wish you
- 1:38could change. You experienced seasons that left
- 1:41you asking God, why did you allow this? And sometimes,
- 1:46as Christians we rush too quickly to say, everything
- 1:49happens for a reason. But when you are the person
- 1:53going through it, that sentence can feel very
- 1:56different. because some things really were meant
- 1:59for evil. Joseph never denied that. When he finally
- 2:04stood before the brothers who had betrayed him,
- 2:07he did not rewrite history. He did not call their
- 2:11betrayal love. He did not pretend that selling
- 2:15him into slavery was necessary behavior. He did
- 2:18not excuse what they had done. He looked directly
- 2:21at them and said, you meant evil against me.
- 2:25but God meant it for good. Genesis 50 -20. There
- 2:31are two intentions in that sentence. You meant
- 2:34it. God meant it. The same event. Two different
- 2:38intentions. And that distinction changes everything.
- 2:43And that is where I want us to continue today.
- 2:47Because perhaps there are things in your life
- 2:49that you have been interpreting only according
- 2:52to what people intended. You know what they wanted.
- 2:55You know what they tried to do. You know what
- 2:58happened. You know how much it hurt. But maybe
- 3:01you still don't know what God intends to do with
- 3:04it. So today, our continuing conversation on
- 3:07refining for a purpose is, you meant for evil,
- 3:11but God meant it for good. And now, listen to
- 3:16me carefully. They had a plan, but God had a
- 3:20purpose. Joseph's brothers had a plan. Originally,
- 3:24Some wanted to kill him. Eventually, they sold
- 3:27him. They wanted to remove him. They wanted to
- 3:30silence the dream. They wanted Joseph out of
- 3:33their lives. From their perspective, getting
- 3:37rid of Joseph would solve the problem. But they
- 3:40did not understand something. They could touch
- 3:43Joseph. But they could not cancel what God had
- 3:47spoken concerning Joseph. They could remove his
- 3:50coat. They could throw him into the pit. They
- 3:54could sell him to strangers. They could separate
- 3:57him from his father. They could change his immediate
- 4:00circumstances. But they could not separate him
- 4:03from the purpose of God. And perhaps that is
- 4:07where somebody listening to me today needs to
- 4:10begin. People can make decisions that affect
- 4:13your life. People can hurt you. People can reject
- 4:17you. People can lie about you. People can misunderstand
- 4:20you. People can close doors People can even temporarily
- 4:24change your circumstances, but nobody possesses
- 4:28enough authority to rewrite what God has purposed
- 4:31concerning your life and understand me carefully.
- 4:35That does not mean everything people do to you
- 4:38comes from God. Joseph did not call their betrayal
- 4:41good. Their intention was evil. God's intention
- 4:45was good. That distinction matters. Christianity
- 4:49does not require us to call evil good. in order
- 4:53to believe in the providence of God. Their intentions
- 4:56do not have to become God's intentions for God
- 5:00to remain sovereign over the outcome. And now
- 5:05consider this. The pit didn't look like purpose.
- 5:09We know Joseph's ending. That makes his story
- 5:11easier for us to read. We know Egypt is coming.
- 5:15We know Pharaoh is coming. We know promotion
- 5:18is coming. We know the famine is coming. We know
- 5:21his brothers will eventually stand before him,
- 5:24but Joseph didn't know any of that while he was
- 5:26sitting in the pit. And that is important, because
- 5:29providence usually makes more sense looking backward
- 5:33than living forward. When you're in the pit,
- 5:36all you see is the pit. When you're serving in
- 5:40Potiphar's house, you don't necessarily know
- 5:43why you're there. When you're falsely accused,
- 5:46You don't see how the accusation fits anything
- 5:49God promised. When you're sitting in prison after
- 5:53doing the right thing, you may even begin wondering
- 5:56whether doing the right thing was worth it. But
- 5:59God was working through a story Joseph could
- 6:02not yet understand. The pit moved Joseph toward
- 6:06Egypt. Egypt moved Joseph into Potiphar's house.
- 6:10Potiphar's house developed responsibility. The
- 6:13false accusation moved Joseph into prison. Prison
- 6:17connected Joseph with Pharaoh's officials. One
- 6:20encounter in prison eventually created a connection
- 6:23to Pharaoh. And Pharaoh positioned Joseph exactly
- 6:27where he needed to be before the famine arrived.
- 6:30Joseph couldn't see the chain while he was living
- 6:33inside it. But God could. And maybe that is where
- 6:37you are right now. Maybe you are looking at one
- 6:40piece of your life and trying to understand the
- 6:42entire picture. But hear me, you don't know what
- 6:46God is working behind the scenes. This is where
- 6:49faith becomes difficult. We want God to explain
- 6:53himself while he is working. We want to know
- 6:56why this, why now, why them? Why did you allow
- 6:59it? Why didn't you stop it? Why did that door
- 7:02close? Why did I have to experience that disappointment?
- 7:05Why did I have to go through this particular
- 7:08fire? But sometimes God does not give us the
- 7:11explanation while the story is unfolding. Sometimes
- 7:15he asks us to trust the author while he is still
- 7:19writing. Joseph spent years living inside circumstances
- 7:24that seemed completely disconnected from his
- 7:27dream. Yet heaven had not forgotten Joseph. God
- 7:31was working behind scenes Joseph could not see.
- 7:35And while Joseph was being prepared, God was
- 7:38also preparing circumstances around him. A famine
- 7:42Joseph knew nothing about was coming. A nation
- 7:46would need administration. His family would need
- 7:50preservation. Entire populations would need food.
- 7:55And suddenly we discover that the dream God had
- 7:58given Joseph years earlier was connected to something
- 8:02much larger than Joseph's personal success. Joseph
- 8:06may initially have understood the dream in terms
- 8:10of what would happen to him. Eventually he discovered
- 8:14that his position was about what God intended
- 8:17to accomplish through him. Listen again to Genesis
- 8:2150 -20. There it is, purpose. God wasn't merely
- 8:34trying to make Joseph successful. God was positioning
- 8:37Joseph to preserve lives, and this is important
- 8:40because sometimes your purpose is bigger than
- 8:44your pain. Think about Joseph arriving at the
- 8:47palace. Imagine if Joseph had arrived there bitter.
- 8:50Imagine a wounded man with enormous authority.
- 8:53Imagine a betrayed man controlling the food supply.
- 8:57Imagine a man carrying unresolved hatred suddenly
- 9:00possessing governmental power. Joseph could have
- 9:03become dangerous. He eventually possessed enough
- 9:06authority to retaliate against the very people
- 9:09who had hurt him. But perhaps this is another
- 9:11reason the refining process mattered. God wasn't
- 9:15simply bringing Joseph to power. God was developing
- 9:18the man who would know what to do with power
- 9:20when he received it. The pit was doing something.
- 9:23Potiphar's house was doing something. The false
- 9:26accusation was doing something. The prison was
- 9:29doing something. The waiting was doing something.
- 9:31God was developing character while positioning
- 9:34purpose. And eventually, Joseph could stand before
- 9:38the very people who had hurt him while possessing
- 9:41enough authority to destroy them. and choose
- 9:43preservation instead. That is refinement. The
- 9:47greatest evidence that Joseph had been transformed
- 9:50wasn't merely that he reached the palace, it
- 9:53was what kind of man stood in the palace once
- 9:56he got there. And this is why I keep telling
- 10:00you throughout this season, God doesn't waste
- 10:03the fire. Some fires come through opposition,
- 10:06some through disappointment, some through consequences,
- 10:10some through our own mistakes. Some through circumstances
- 10:13completely beyond our control. And we must be
- 10:16careful here. Romans 8 28 does not tell us that
- 10:20everything that happens to us is good. It tells
- 10:23us that all things work together for good to
- 10:26those who love God and are called according to
- 10:29His purpose. There is a difference. The betrayal
- 10:33wasn't good. The slavery wasn't good. The false
- 10:37accusation wasn't good. The imprisonment wasn't
- 10:41good. But God was able to take what was not good
- 10:45and weave it into something that Ultimately served
- 10:48his purpose that is Providence God does not need
- 10:53evil to become good in order to bring good out
- 10:56of it And that means you don't have to rename
- 10:59what hurt you you don't have to pretend betrayal
- 11:03wasn't betrayal You don't have to call injustice
- 11:06justice. You don't have to pretend your mistake
- 11:09wasn't a mistake You don't have to deny your
- 11:12disappointment. You can acknowledge what happened
- 11:15and still declare, this will not have the final
- 11:18word over my life. But now I want to take this
- 11:22somewhere even more personal. Because sometimes
- 11:25the fire wasn't started by somebody else. Sometimes
- 11:29we participated in creating it. And somebody
- 11:33needs to hear this. Even your failure doesn't
- 11:37automatically exempt you from purpose. Sometimes
- 11:41we made the wrong decision. Sometimes we spoke
- 11:44when we should have remained quiet. Sometimes
- 11:47we trusted the wrong person. Sometimes pride
- 11:51influenced us. Sometimes anger controlled us.
- 11:55Sometimes we ignored wisdom. Sometimes we compromised.
- 11:59Sometimes we simply messed up. And afterward
- 12:03we wonder, have I destroyed God's purpose for
- 12:06my life? But scripture repeatedly shows us something
- 12:09remarkable. God knew the weaknesses of the people
- 12:12he called before he called them. God knew Abraham
- 12:15would struggle. God knew Jacob's character. God
- 12:19knew Moses would become angry. God knew David
- 12:22would fail. God knew Peter would deny Jesus.
- 12:26Jesus even told Peter beforehand that before
- 12:29the rooster crowed, Peter would deny him three
- 12:32times. And yet Jesus could still speak about
- 12:35Peter's future. Why? Because Peter's failure
- 12:39surprised Peter. It did not surprise Jesus. Now
- 12:44hear me carefully. This is not permission to
- 12:46sin. This is not an excuse for irresponsibility.
- 12:50Choices have consequences. Sin requires repentance.
- 12:55Character requires correction. And sometimes
- 12:58restoration requires a painful process. But God's
- 13:02foreknowledge means He does not suddenly discover
- 13:05our weaknesses after calling us. He already knew.
- 13:09And somehow, through mercy, correction, repentance,
- 13:14discipline, grace, and refinement, God continues
- 13:18His work. Look at Jacob. Because sometimes, your
- 13:22name doesn't have to become your destiny. Jacob's
- 13:25life carried struggle, manipulation, deception,
- 13:28and running. He deceived. He was deceived. He
- 13:32manipulated. He struggled. But eventually, Jacob
- 13:36had an encounter with God. And God changed his
- 13:39name. Israel. The man who entered that encounter
- 13:43was not supposed to leave exactly as he entered.
- 13:46That is refinement. Sometimes God doesn't merely
- 13:49want to change your circumstances. He wants to
- 13:52change the person walking through those circumstances.
- 13:55Because one of the greatest dangers would be
- 13:57arriving at your purpose. carrying the same character
- 14:00that could destroy it. And this is why I need
- 14:04somebody listening to me today to stop making
- 14:07permanent conclusions about temporary chapters.
- 14:10Stop writing the final chapter in the middle
- 14:13of the story. The pit feels permanent. The prison
- 14:18feels permanent. The rejection feels permanent.
- 14:23The failure feels permanent. The disappointment
- 14:26feels permanent. And we begin saying, my life
- 14:29is over. I missed God. I will never recover.
- 14:35This destroyed everything. But Joseph teaches
- 14:38us something different. Joseph could have called
- 14:40the pit the ending. It wasn't. He could have
- 14:43called slavery the ending. It wasn't. He could
- 14:46have called the false accusation the ending.
- 14:48It wasn't. He could have called prison the ending.
- 14:51It wasn't. Even being forgotten by the cup bearer
- 14:55wasn't the ending. There was still another chapter,
- 14:58and somebody needs to hear me. There is still
- 15:00another chapter. You cannot judge the entire
- 15:03book from the chapter you're currently living.
- 15:06Because sometimes, purpose finally explains what
- 15:10pain could not. Years later, Joseph could connect
- 15:14the pieces. He could look backward and understand.
- 15:18If I had never reached Egypt, I would not have
- 15:22been positioned here. If I had never encountered
- 15:25Pharaoh's officials, the connection might never
- 15:27have happened. If I had not learned stewardship
- 15:30along the way, I might not have been prepared
- 15:33to manage what Pharaoh eventually placed under
- 15:36my authority. What looked disconnected was connected.
- 15:41What looked wasted was being used. What looked
- 15:44like delay contained preparation. What looked
- 15:47like rejection contained redirection. and what
- 15:51somebody intended as destruction became part
- 15:54of the road toward preservation. That is why
- 15:58Joseph could finally say, you meant it for evil,
- 16:02but God meant it for good. Not because evil became
- 16:06good, but because evil could not defeat God's
- 16:10purpose. Still, I want to be careful, because
- 16:15maybe you are listening to me and saying, Barry,
- 16:18I still don't understand what God is doing. And
- 16:22maybe you don't. Maybe you don't have enough
- 16:25information yet. There are chapters of your life
- 16:28you may still not understand. Don't force an
- 16:32explanation. Don't manufacture a testimony before
- 16:36the testimony is complete. Maybe you're still
- 16:40somewhere between the pit and the palace. Maybe
- 16:43you are doing the right thing and still experiencing
- 16:45consequences you don't understand. Maybe you're
- 16:48asking God what any of this has to do with your
- 16:52calling. Joseph's life gives us permission to
- 16:55say, I don't understand yet. Faith doesn't require
- 16:58you to know everything God is doing. Faith requires
- 17:01trusting Him while you don't. Because what you
- 17:05can see today is only one piece of a story God
- 17:08sees completely. And this brings us back to where
- 17:11we started. You are being refined for a purpose.
- 17:15Maybe the question isn't only God. When are you
- 17:18getting me out? Maybe there is another question.
- 17:22God, what are you producing in me while I'm here?
- 17:26What are you correcting? What are you strengthening?
- 17:29What are you teaching me? What must I leave behind?
- 17:32What kind of person must I become for what you
- 17:35are preparing me to carry? Because Joseph didn't
- 17:38simply come out of the prison. Joseph came out
- 17:41prepared for Pharaoh. And that realization prepares
- 17:44us for our next conversation. Because if God
- 17:48can turn what was meant for evil toward his purpose,
- 17:52then we must eventually ask, what kind of person
- 17:56does that purpose require me to become? Joseph
- 17:59reached tremendous responsibility. Daniel reached
- 18:03extraordinary influence. Job was trusted through
- 18:06extraordinary testing. Samuel could invite an
- 18:10entire nation to examine his leadership. And
- 18:13beneath these lives, we begin discovering another
- 18:16word. Integrity. So in our next conversation,
- 18:20we are going to confront what may be one of the
- 18:23most personal questions of this entire season.
- 18:27Can God trust your integrity? Can God trust you
- 18:30with authority? Can he trust you with influence?
- 18:34Can he trust you when nobody is watching? Can
- 18:37he trust you when temptation comes? Can he trust
- 18:41you when you're angry? Can he trust you after
- 18:44you've been hurt? Can he trust you with the very
- 18:46thing you've been asking him to give you? Because
- 18:49perhaps the fire isn't only preparing the place.
- 18:53Perhaps the fire is preparing the person. They
- 18:57meant it for evil. God meant it for good. And
- 19:01somewhere between what they intended and what
- 19:04God intends, I am being refined for a purpose.