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The Jesse Ventura They Don't Want You To See Pt. 9 - HAARP · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: Winter Inrance. Die I'm a checkups wait the audult.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy Show. I'm Adam Todd Brown.
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  Speaker 3: Who are you? I'm Olivia Heidar.
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  Speaker 2: And we are your hosts. I did a solo episode
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  Speaker 2: last week. It was so cold and lonely here in
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  Speaker 2: the studio. Olivia's back, Olivia, Hey, it's me. How is
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  Speaker 2: your trip to the West Coast? Oh?
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  Speaker 3: It was? It was lovely. I mean yeah, it was
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  Speaker 3: exhausting because it was mostly work, but it was a
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  Speaker 3: lot of fun. I got to see you. We did
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  Speaker 3: an episode that was fun. Then I bought a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of weed and I smuggled it back to Indiana, which
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  Speaker 3: is which is fun. Don't tell the TSA, But.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, how much did you get
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  Speaker 2: back to Indiana?
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  Speaker 3: Three ounces? Not bad?
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  Speaker 2: Wow?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So what are we talking about this week? Jerk your
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  Speaker 2: pets for tecks?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Jesse talking about Jesse Ventura. Our crack team of researchers
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  Speaker 2: and support staff stormed the Daily Motion archives looking for
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  Speaker 2: more evidence that an active cover up is keeping the
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  Speaker 2: world from seeing every single episode of Conspiracy Theory with
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  Speaker 2: Jesse Ventura, Like God intended and you won't believe what
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  Speaker 2: they found. We found two more episodes. Oh whoa, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's there's two more episodes that are just banned. They're
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  Speaker 2: banned from from the from the world. If you go,
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  Speaker 2: if you go on Amazon, it says currently unavailable. And
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  Speaker 2: if they're not on Amazon, where the fuck are they?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I know exactly. There's where else do you even
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  Speaker 3: buy like episodes of TV?
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  Speaker 2: Where do you buy things besides right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like grocery stores? What's that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, never heard of them. So we already covered season two,
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  Speaker 2: the highly banned second season Yes of Conspiracy Theory with
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  Speaker 2: Jesse Ventura, So now we're going to cover these two
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  Speaker 2: straggler episodes that for some reason are also unavailable. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like we should speculate on why these episodes are banned.
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  Speaker 2: This first one. I think it's just because all of
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  Speaker 2: this is true.
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  Speaker 3: Oh boy, oh.
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  Speaker 2: Boy, that's my that is my main main thinking here.
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  Speaker 2: Are you not Are you not a harp believer?
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  Speaker 3: No? Oh no, not really, especially not based on what
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  Speaker 3: is presented in this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. It's one thing for a conspiracy
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  Speaker 2: theory to be believable, and it's a whole other thing
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  Speaker 2: for Jesse Ventura to deliver it in a believable way, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because this is a theory that I think there's a
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  Speaker 2: good deal of actual evidence that it's not. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it has to work exactly the way
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  Speaker 2: people think it works. Right now, the government's doing something
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  Speaker 2: else with HARP than what they say.
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  Speaker 3: I I mean, look, I've said this in the past
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  Speaker 3: when it comes when I'm ramping up to being skeptical
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  Speaker 3: about whatever the subject of an episode is. But like, look,
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  Speaker 3: I am not here to like claim that the government
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  Speaker 3: could not possibly do the things that it's being accused of.
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  Speaker 3: As far as HARP goes, Like well, okay, I am
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  Speaker 3: going to say that the government is not controlling whether
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  Speaker 3: that's the thing, I'm just gonna come down hard on
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  Speaker 3: and say that's not happening, and hey, if I'm an
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  Speaker 3: idiot later on, okay, but that just that that doesn't
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  Speaker 3: work for me. But as far as all this stuff
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  Speaker 3: about mind control and stuff that's happening in this episode,
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  Speaker 3: like look, maybe like I wouldn't be shocked if I
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  Speaker 3: was told that that was actually happening, but like.
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  Speaker 2: See, I'm sure of a maybe on the weather thing
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  Speaker 2: and less on the mind control because well, like, manipulating
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  Speaker 2: the weather isn't science fiction, Like there's a thing called
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  Speaker 2: cloud seeding. Granted, cloud seating is sort of the basis
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  Speaker 2: of snow Piercer, but cloud seating existed before snow Piercer.
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  Speaker 3: Well yeah, but also done. But like cloud seating is
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  Speaker 3: is not No.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the same thing, but it's manipulating the it is.
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  Speaker 3: But it's on such a smaller scale than what's being
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  Speaker 3: not even in this episode than in the Like, conspiracy
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  Speaker 3: theories broadly claim about what how HARP is manipulating the
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  Speaker 3: weather in which like which is kind of thinking about technically,
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  Speaker 3: like what Harp is even doing as like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's got this very large if we should talk about
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  Speaker 3: what Harp even is honestly because people might not know
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  Speaker 3: what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and for the record, we did an episode about this.
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  Speaker 2: We should probably redo it because I feel like once
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  Speaker 2: I get like a year or two removed from something
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  Speaker 2: I've put out, like it's like looking at a picture
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  Speaker 2: of myself with big ears. Yeah, I'm like, man, I
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  Speaker 2: could have done so I'm a mess, Like I need
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  Speaker 2: to do that better, and I feel like I should
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  Speaker 2: redo the HARP episode at some point. But we do
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  Speaker 2: have an episode out there about HARP. It's an acronym
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  Speaker 2: that means high frequency Active Auroral Research Program FARP. If
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  Speaker 2: you want to be more precise, I get where they
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  Speaker 2: why they shorten it to HARP.
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  Speaker 3: It is when it's hyphenated. I don't think you usually.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, true, the world's most capable high power, high frequency
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  Speaker 2: transmitter for study of the ion a sphere. It's basically
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  Speaker 2: a big field of antennas. They're each like seventy two
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  Speaker 2: feet tall, right, And what the government claims is that
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  Speaker 2: they're pointing at the ionosphere to track the weather, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: And there are critics out there who argue that it
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  Speaker 2: is being used for other things, be it to control
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  Speaker 2: the weather, to manipulate the minds of the masses, like
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  Speaker 2: mass mind control, Right, is a thing that they say
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  Speaker 2: this is capable of. And again, if you watch this
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  Speaker 2: episode and you don't have any other prior knowledge of HARP,
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  Speaker 2: the governor is not going to sell you on it.
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  Speaker 2: Probably he doesn't. He's not good at selling any theory,
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  Speaker 2: really not really. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, Like the closest he comes is when he falls
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  Speaker 3: backwards basically into a real thing that exists and is
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  Speaker 3: actually like hurting the world, like with the banks, like
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  Speaker 3: we did the episode about Wall Street and that sort
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  Speaker 3: of thing. Like there, he's like found a real thing
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  Speaker 3: that sucks and he's bringing attention to it, and it
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  Speaker 3: actually his like weird upfront style actually you know, gets
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  Speaker 3: to some really interesting truths. But I would say in
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  Speaker 3: this case, he is mostly just kind of going along
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  Speaker 3: with it as usual, with what everybody tells him and
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  Speaker 3: just believing everything.
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  Speaker 2: I should have had you listen to the episode before this,
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  Speaker 2: because the device in question, or the idea that HARP
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  Speaker 2: would be able to do what people say it would
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  Speaker 2: be able to do, Like they touch on it a
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  Speaker 2: little bit in this episode. But the guy who developed
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  Speaker 2: HARP worked for the Reagan administration and is working specific
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  Speaker 2: on missile defense systems, and that's what he patented this as,
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  Speaker 2: Like that's what he invented this as was a thing
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  Speaker 2: that could be used to one manipulate the weather and
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  Speaker 2: to act as a defense against missile attacks in the
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  Speaker 2: United States. So yeah, the short version is people think
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  Speaker 2: the government's using this as a weapon to cause natural disasters.
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  Speaker 2: I think the least crazy version of this theory is
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  Speaker 2: that this could actually be some sort of viable missile
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  Speaker 2: defense system. And I get why the government would be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: fucking control the weather, believe whatever you want, it's fine,
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  Speaker 2: because they're not like, there's there's no way if this
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  Speaker 2: is actually a missile defense system, the American government's going
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  Speaker 2: to be like, and here's our beautiful missile defense system, right,
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  Speaker 2: or like the likes of which no other nation possesses.
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  Speaker 3: Right. But it's also possible that, like the whole missile
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  Speaker 3: defense thing was basically just what this guy you know
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  Speaker 3: talk about Ted Stevens.
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  Speaker 2: Ted Stevens, Ted's well.
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  Speaker 3: Ted Stevens was the guy, the Republican senator who helped
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  Speaker 3: push the project through in the Senate.
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  Speaker 2: N there's a guy named Bernard Eastland.
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  Speaker 3: Bernard Eastland, Okay, But I mean it's also possible that
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  Speaker 3: it's just they want money for Alaska and now they're
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  Speaker 3: using it for like whatever, they're shooting things in like
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  Speaker 3: radio waves into the ionosphere or whatever. But yeah, like
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  Speaker 3: it could also be a missile defense I find both
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  Speaker 3: of those thing like reasons way more compelling than whether
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  Speaker 3: control simply because that would take so much energy and
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  Speaker 3: we would know, we would notice other places would notice
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  Speaker 3: like so much.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's one of those things where there are people
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  Speaker 2: who claim they have visual evidence of this happening, and
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  Speaker 2: then it's a matter of do you believe that that? Like,
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  Speaker 2: to me, that comes down to like UFOs, Like sure,
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  Speaker 2: I guess you hear people who are so vehemently against
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  Speaker 2: UFOs who are like, well, where's the evidence. It's like
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  Speaker 2: people fucking post it all the time, and you don't
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  Speaker 2: believe it because it's not Bush telling you that it's UFOs.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Well, I but like this is a whole separate conversation,
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  Speaker 3: but like, what does visual evidence even mean when we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about something that uses invisible energy to cause changes
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  Speaker 3: in the atmosphere?
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  Speaker 2: The example they use, Now I'm getting my wires crossed
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  Speaker 2: as to whether this comes up in this episode or
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  Speaker 2: in the CBC documentary about Heart, But the example they
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  Speaker 2: use is changes in the northern lights and Aurora borealis.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a science nerd like me and Olivia, right
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  Speaker 2: of course, yeah, huge science nerds. Big car people too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: people don't expect that, huge car people. But that's the
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  Speaker 2: thing they cite is, well, when this is operating and
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  Speaker 2: the Aurora borealis is different and then they tie it
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  Speaker 2: to different natural disasters. I still think the weather is
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's more plausible than mind control,
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  Speaker 2: but I still think it's just a messile defense system.
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  Speaker 2: Is the most plausible expert, Yeah, I think that's the thing,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's what I want it to be. That's for
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  Speaker 2: damn sure.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it makes sense on many different levels, especially
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  Speaker 3: if it was built during the Cold War, it makes
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  Speaker 3: sense then why would be built in Alaska? Like it
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  Speaker 3: just kind of all yeah, you know, ties together very nicely.
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  Speaker 3: Whereas and you know, we'll get into this much deeper
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  Speaker 3: as we get further into the episode. But like, the
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  Speaker 3: reason I lean more towards mind control is a slightly
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  Speaker 3: like barely more plausible than weather control is just because
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  Speaker 3: we know the governments tried to do it before, and
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  Speaker 3: the government doesn't really try on large scale weather can
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  Speaker 3: has never really tested that before. As far as you know,
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  Speaker 3: we don't have any records of.
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  Speaker 2: As far as we know, the Sure government had their way,
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  Speaker 2: we wouldn't know that they tried out mind control.
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  Speaker 3: Well, right, I know, but also we do know, like
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  Speaker 3: and that was because they declassified it because it didn't work,
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  Speaker 3: or at least didn't work in that way.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, we don't. We don't know about the mind
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  Speaker 2: control because they declassified it. We know about it because
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  Speaker 2: of the Church Committee hearings and because a few documents
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  Speaker 2: got filed in the wrong place. Otherwise that would have
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  Speaker 2: died with history. But with this there are some weird
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  Speaker 2: government ties to it. Like one of the things that
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  Speaker 2: comes up, I don't think in the episode, but in
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  Speaker 2: the theory in general, is that there are Air Force
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  Speaker 2: documents out there that are like, well, one of the
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  Speaker 2: things we're really interested in is can you control the
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  Speaker 2: weather for military purposes? And there was a point in
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  Speaker 2: history when the website for Heart very specifically said that,
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  Speaker 2: and I think I linked to this in the notes,
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  Speaker 2: but it very specifically said that one of its purposes
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  Speaker 2: was for defense and for studying the weather for defense purposes.
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  Speaker 2: And they eventually just took that part out of the
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  Speaker 2: description on the website and never really explained why. So
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  Speaker 2: there is some suggestion that at some point, at least
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  Speaker 2: in the past, the government viewed this as a thing
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  Speaker 2: that could be used for defense or warship purposes in
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  Speaker 2: some way.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, which which tracks with missile defense.
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  Speaker 2: It does. Yeah, that again that's what I wanted to be.
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  Speaker 2: This theory all centers around a thing called the Eastland patent.
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  Speaker 2: It was developed by a guy named Bernard Eastland. Will
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  Speaker 2: link in the show notes to a clip of him
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  Speaker 2: talking about this device on NPR in nineteen eighty eight,
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  Speaker 2: and he in that interview they asked him if this
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  Speaker 2: is a thing that could be used for defense purposes,
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  Speaker 2: or if the Pentagon has reached out to him about that,
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  Speaker 2: and he just straight up says, yes, the Pentagon has
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  Speaker 2: reached out to me about that, but I cannot disclose
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  Speaker 2: the nature of that contact. So there's that too, sure.
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  Speaker 2: But the sticking point is that the official patent calls
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  Speaker 2: for a single beam of energy that you would fire
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  Speaker 2: into the ion a sphere, and that is how you
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  Speaker 2: would manipulate the weather. And what the government's line has
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  Speaker 2: always been is we don't have a single beam that powerful.
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  Speaker 2: We have one hundred and eighty far less powerful beams.
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  Speaker 3: It says, for the weather, or does or is this
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  Speaker 3: talking about for missile defense?
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean this beam? I lost in the patent?
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  Speaker 2: It's right, a single beam and it's for here's the thing,
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  Speaker 2: it's for both, Like he pitches it as I think
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  Speaker 2: the patent as a thing that could both control the
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  Speaker 2: weather and act as a missile defense thing, and he
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  Speaker 2: cites a Nikola Tesla. I don't know if it was
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  Speaker 2: a patent, but plans that Tesla had for a similar
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  Speaker 2: thing that would manipulate weather, right, And the government's defense
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  Speaker 2: has always been, well, yeah, what's in the patent would work.
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  Speaker 2: But it's a single beam, and we have one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and eighty beams. And in this CBC documentary that will
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  Speaker 2: link to someone gets access to a government basically operation
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  Speaker 2: manual about HARP and it very explicitly says that all
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty of those beams can be concentrated
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  Speaker 2: into one much stronger I mean beam.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Well no, they sure, but the government denies that. When
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  Speaker 2: people ask them about it, they're.
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  Speaker 3: Like, well no, I mean I'm saying sure from the
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  Speaker 3: point of view of someone who doesn't know shit about
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  Speaker 3: how any of that would work. Is the thing. And
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  Speaker 3: this is the problem with a lot of this stuff
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  Speaker 3: is like, you know, it's a lot of people who
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  Speaker 3: aren't scientists mostly or at least not in this specialty,
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  Speaker 3: like claiming a bunch of stuff that I don't know
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  Speaker 3: it's a big it's a big ask. And like even
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  Speaker 3: though the patent might mention stuff about weather control, that
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  Speaker 3: doesn't mean that that is any real basis in like reality,
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  Speaker 3: as long as the mechanisms are accurate, like it doesn't,
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  Speaker 3: the outcome isn't really necessary.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the person who is most adamant that it
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  Speaker 2: can be used for that is the scientist who developed it.
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  Speaker 3: Right before it existed, like you know, so like harp
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  Speaker 3: exists like they but he filed this patent in nineteen
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  Speaker 3: eighty eight and they pretty much started working on right
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  Speaker 3: building it right after that. That's what I'm saying though,
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  Speaker 3: like before it was built before, you know, Like I'm
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  Speaker 3: just saying, there's not a lot I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't know if the government would have
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  Speaker 2: pumped that much money and effort into it if there
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  Speaker 2: wasn't some science behind it. But I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Also, I don't know. There's a lot of stuff going
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  Speaker 3: on here, and I'm obviously no expert, and like so
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to talk out my ass. It's just
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  Speaker 3: that I'm gonna need even I'm gonna I know that
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  Speaker 3: this is a like whatever cop out, But I just
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  Speaker 3: am good to need some pretty hardcore evidence, like hardcore
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  Speaker 3: evidence to prove that the weather is being manipulated. I
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  Speaker 3: just like I'm gonna need that I and I can't
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  Speaker 3: really do anything about I just that's what my.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, I still think it's most likely that
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  Speaker 2: it's a missile defense thing.
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  Speaker 3: I think that makes the most sense.
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  Speaker 2: That's also not a thing the government is upfront about
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  Speaker 2: right now. It's more a question of is HARP just
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  Speaker 2: a thing that studies the weather or is it a
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  Speaker 2: thing that does something else? Right, And I think there's
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  Speaker 2: a good chance it does something else. It just it
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  Speaker 2: seems like a lot of effort just to monitor the weather. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why you couldn't put that somewhere less remote. Well,
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  Speaker 2: because there's remote and then there's where harp is.
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  Speaker 3: Well, right, But also I mean I would guess, and
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  Speaker 3: look again we're not a I'm not an expert, but
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these things, like the very large array
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  Speaker 3: in New Mexico, they need open spaces in order to
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  Speaker 3: function properly. They can't be around a lot of interference.
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  Speaker 3: Especially if we're talking about radio signals, then it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: want to be in a remote place so that there's
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  Speaker 3: not a lot of radio interference regardless.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that, but still like this is this
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  Speaker 2: is like when civilization collapses five hundred years from now
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  Speaker 2: or five hundred years after, archaeologists are gonna find Harp
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  Speaker 2: and be like, what the fuck was this? It is
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  Speaker 2: gonna be the Stonehenge of their day.
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  Speaker 3: Well I was gonna say, I mean, like that's fair,
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  Speaker 3: and like I agree obviously, for it won't be nearly
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  Speaker 3: as durable as Stonehege because it's made out of metal
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  Speaker 3: and is gonna rust.
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  Speaker 2: But uh or you know, wow, now who's the scientist.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying. And also like we we have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of archaeological like artifacts that we have today where
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  Speaker 3: we're like, what the fuck is this being used for?
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand this at all? And you know that's
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  Speaker 3: of course it'll happen. I hope it does. That'll be funny. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: But like I the thing that this just that Harp
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  Speaker 3: always reminds me of, and I mentioned it, is the
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  Speaker 3: very large array in New Mexico, which is a very
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: creepy installation and a very weird looking thing if you
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: are just looking at it without knowing any of the
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: context for why it exists and why it looks the
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: way it does, and you know, I think that it's
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: very easy for that to be a similar thing that's
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: happening here where we get a very weird thing that
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: kind of looks like a like if you see a
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: picture of it, it kind of looks like like a
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: surrealist like power plant or something like. I don't know,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: like it's very odd.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tesla would come up with, yeah.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: A little bit, a little bit, but also like, actually
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: is it partially is? Yeah, I mean, but yeah, anyway,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: it's a weird thing. So I get way a bunch
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: of people would be like coming up with like reasons
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: why it might be so creepy.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: So let's get into this episode. Yes please, Oh, here
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: we go. It's on daily Motion. You got to know
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: how to manipulate the internet or just clicking the show notes,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: we'll link to it. I was very nervous right away
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: because the lip sync in the intro of this episode
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: is approximately the quality of a kung fu movie.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm glad that it wasn't just me. Okay, that
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: that's good.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was scared that was going to carry on
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: the whole time, and that would have that would have
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: this would have turned into an audio episode of Conspiracy
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Theory with Jess Venture because I wouldn't have been able
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: to watch.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: It would have been tough, and I will, but I
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: did want to say. I wanted to read the description
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: from the from the Daily Motion channel. I took a
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: screenshot of it. I thought it was very funny. Here
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: is the best documentary on control mind made with EMP
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: and radio frequency and how to walk a path to
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: defense against it?
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: What? Yeah, it is almost none of those things.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: No, it's definitely not a documentary.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: It's just an episode of a true TV show. Yeah,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: true tru TV the name of the network now, right,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: of course, of course, not that this is the essence
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: of television. This is true television, this.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Is this is what television was made to be.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Exactly so, the governor he gets a call from a
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: guy named Jerry Smith if that is your real name? Oh,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: and they meet at a bar in Saint Paul, Great City.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: The guy he's meeting with is an author of a
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: book about how harp is secretly a weapon. And I
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: don't get why they play this up, like Jesse has
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: no idea what they're meeting about. Yeah, it's like you're
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: meeting a guy who wrote a book about harp on
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: the harp episode of your show, juss fucking cut the drama.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well this was an early one, right, this is
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: when they.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Got Yeah, and season one, episode two they came out
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: of the gates hot.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe it's like they're still trying to figuring out
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: the format of the show a little bit. That explains
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: a lot of stuff.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the next episode we're going to cover its way
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: at the other end of the spectrum. It's from season three,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: and I would argue it's worse. This show in terms
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: of production, gets worse as it carries on. Right, Yes,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: this was like this was the this was the golden years.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: This was the glory days of conspiracy theory. I almost
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: called it conspiracy the show. Hey, hey, we should get
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Jesse venture to host this. We fucking kickback and chill
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: do the research.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I've said it before, I would like to smoke weed
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Jesse Ventura.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: So I definitely would like to do that.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I would be into it.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, He's one of the few guests that I would
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: just let come on and ramble Joe's style, at least
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: for a little while. Eventually, I'd get high enough that
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, all right, no, that's enough. Nine to
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: eleven was not holograms. Yeah, no, Trump I was not
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: a good president.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, is he okay?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, never mind, I think he might be.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Well, then I rescind my invitation to smoke weed with Merumps.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: I would like to play the game where I try
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: to see what I can get him to believe, like
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: hell yeah, just like straight face come up with the
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: most insane theory I could think of, like did you
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: know the government uses unicorns to give vaccines? And like
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: he'd be like, that's that's interesting. I had never heard
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: that theory before. Do you have any evidence to back
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: that up? And I would say, yes, Jesse, I do
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I have these papers?
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Oh I wouldn't even say that. I'd be like, yeah, sources.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Told me, Oh that's a good call.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: And he'd be like, holy shit, sources.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Fucks.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Did you say horses or sources? Sources, Jesse, not horses.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Uh So the lip sync ends up being.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Fine, Yeah, it's fine, it's fine.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I was happy about that, Jesse. He goes to meet
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Jerry Smith. Jerry gives a really basic rundown of harp.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: He gets the number of beams wrong. He says it's
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty and it's actually everyone else always
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: says one to eighty, but I don't know. And uh,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: he says they can all consolidate into one. They don't
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: dwell on that, but that is actually a point of contention,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: right one side says, no, they can't. The other side says, yeah,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: they can, and yeah, that's kind of the the crux
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: of the issue. If they can, then this is the
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Eastman patent. And if they can't, right, then it's not. So.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: He suggests that this is at least in part, a
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: ground based Star Wars defense system, and that I can see,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: but I could also see it being a maybe obsolete
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: ground defense system by now. Right now, we're fucking with
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: hypersonic weapons. Those may be a whole different thing, because
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: at one point the government did hand this control of
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: this from the Air Force over to like fucking Baltimore
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Parks Department or something.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Weird. Yeah, yeah, the idea of it being like now
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: defunct as a military operation also fits with how they
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: have been operating recently, where they've been doing like open
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: houses and stuff and letting people in.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they do an open house every two years, or
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: at least that's what they said in the episode. I
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: don't know if that.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: I think it's every year now.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we got whatever we got. I would
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: love it, Yeah, I would. I would hop on an
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Alaskan crew.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: And then I'm sure HARP is easy to get to from.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: There, absolutely, I'm sure it's real easy to get to.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you probably have to be smuggled to it that
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: you can't even just go.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: There right on a tornado.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: So he talks a little bit about how HARP eventually
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: falls into military hands. That's sort of the way he
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: puts it, and he suggests it's a ground based Star
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Wars defense type system. But he's also the one who
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: says that it operates on the same frequency that brain
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: waves operate on, meaning it's also capable of large scale
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: mind control. And it's like this is some infomercial shit, Yeah,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: like what else can it do?
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Right? Well, this is the thing. And again this is
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: where I get into the weeds with like, there are
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: way too many theories about this thing. It can't be
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: all of them. I'm sorry.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Agree with that.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: It can't be mine control and weather and everything else.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I'm also surprised we disagree on the most unlikely of
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: the three, because right, yes, yes, sure that we would
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: both agree mind control is the least likely.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: But no, yeah, no, I mean look again, but we
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: don't want to get back into it. But no, no, no,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: But the thing is, like, I really feel like, first
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: of all, I don't know about the quote unquote frequency
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: that the human brain is on. I don't know what
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: that really means in this context. But also, if there
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: is a radio frequency that the human brain operates on,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: it seems like that would be a bad frequency to
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: do other stuff on, just cause it's gonna you're gonna
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: have a hard time operating that equipment. I feel like, oh, sure,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: if you are like working at the station that blasts
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: the same brain frequency as you.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I feel the same way about people who are like, well,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: five G technology is used to spread COVID. It's like, well,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: then everyone who installs five G technology would have COVID.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: That's it. I'd not heard that specific. Oh, COVID.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: It was an early one. It was an early dad
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: because people were like, well, it coincided with five G
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Internet being released in Wuhan, and it's like it also
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: coincided with it being released in like nine other cities
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: in China that now many cases in COVID.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: So like, it's just very like, how the fuck is
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: five G supposed to transmit a virus? I don't understand
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: that at all.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I know that we're way off topic.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: It's not your grandparents internet, Olivia. Oh my god, God,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: welcome to the metaphor.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: You know what. Maybe I feel like, how do you
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: not believe that like mine could like was turning as
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: stupid or some shit like.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Come on, I think it's just on the internet.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Well this is the thing. Yeah. Again, Well, I just
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: want to say before we get into the people we're
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: gonna have a team meeting, but before we get into
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: the people that they talk to in this episode, I
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: just want to say, really, bum me the fuck out
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: watching this episode from that angle, because these people are
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: very uh, they make me very sad because they are
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: going through a lot.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, the experts he tracks down in a lot
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: of cases, it's like, oh, this isn't good television, This
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: isn't this is no quality production right now. Yeah, but
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: first it's time for a team meeting. Of course, team
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: meeting time. June Sarpong says she has tracked down a
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: physicist who says heart does exactly what people say it
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: can do, and he's going to perform an experiment to
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: prove it. M it's an interesting experiment.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, and it's interesting because people say it can
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: do multiple things.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, there's a couple of experiments in this
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: that I'm very skeptical of. I'm like, this isn't really
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: proving what you what you think it's proven. Yeah, and
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: it seems like they're they're suggesting that it doesn't seem
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: like they're suggesting they are suggesting that that huge tsunami
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: in Indonesia in two thousand and three, two thousand and.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Five, something like that in mid two thousands.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that that was caused by Harp and Alex the
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: skeptic pipes up and is like why would they do that,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: And it's either Jesse venture or June is like, dude,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: maybe it was an accident. Maybe they were just testing
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: out Harp and that's what happened. And they're like maybe
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: at a.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Certain point it just becomes weird government fan fiction.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: That's the thing. They really don't do a good job
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: presenting evidence in US. So now they hit the road,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Alex the Skeptic. He's headed to Fairbanks, Alaska to meet
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: with one of the heads of HARP research. Meanwhile, Michael Braverman. Oh,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: who by season three, they're just calling Braverman.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I missed his first name. I missed his first
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: name getting dropped.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: He's headed to Stanford University to talk to harp researchers. Also,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: so it seems a little redundant that both going out
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: to talk to harp researchers. Yeah, and also what does
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: harp researchers mean?
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Theory? We're harp researchers.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean technically, as I've demonstrated this episode, I
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: have such a wealth of expertise on the subject.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where was my phone call? When we're making episodes
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: about harp?
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I do want to say very quickly that I'm very like,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm saying it, but I'm I was
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: glad that it was Alex the Skeptic in this episode,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: who somehow is the least annoying of the skeptics on
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: the show. I don't know how, but he is.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Probably there's only the two skeptics though, right.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Well there, Yeah, I guess the other guy I'm thinking
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: of the new characters in the next episode, who I
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: guess aren't skeptic. The definitely aren't skeptics.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly is not a skeptic.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: The Ozark, ohs art Okay, but the arc of oz
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: don't you see it? Uh so Yeah, But like I
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: think Alex is better than Daniel. I think definitely.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Daniel sucked so bad. I hated Daniel.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a piece of ship. So Braverman. He's
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: talking to these two Stanford boobs and they they seem
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: like they're they're a little out of their depth. I
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: don't think they expected to be answering questions from the
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: conspiracy theory team, right. I think they thought this was
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: gonna be more so tell us how does this monitor
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: the weather? Right? No, they're getting they're getting hit with
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: the hard questions. Yeah, there's no softballs being lobbed at
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: this team. And uh, the person Alex was gonna talk
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: to just finds out who he's with and is like, nope,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: no thanks, Yeah, we are not gonna do that. We're
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: going to talk to you.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: That's the other funny little tidbit that I found was that, uh,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: there was like apparently like an Air Force spokeswoman was like, yeah,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: he uh, he said he was going. He wanted to come.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: He want he made like an official request to come
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: visit and he said he wanted to, but we said
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: no because it's a conspiracy theory show. And then he
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: hit his crew. They showed up anyway, and so we
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: denied them access.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, classic classic adventure a conspiracy theory with Jesse venture
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: a maneuver early on in the series. So what do
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: we think of June Sarpong and this experiment that doctor
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Brooks agnew At runs at the conspiracy Theory offices. He
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: seems to have built a device designed specifically to show
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: that harp does what it says it does. The problem
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: is not a single person he will ever show this too,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: has the understanding of science or weather necessary to know
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: if that thing is actually doing what art does, and
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: that this is not an impressive looking experiment.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: That's it's for the it's the whole rub of the
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: whole thing, which is they are not giving any of
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: the quote unquote evidence to the people who know what
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: any of it means. And also this thing was chancy
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: as hell. Like I went to the while I was
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: in La I went to the Griffith Observatory and it
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: had thing like exhibits that were more convincing than this
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: fucking little cloud box or whatever the hell it was.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: It looked like a vaporizer. I want to smoke foot
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: out of this thing.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Like Jesus, Like, yeah, there's no way that we could
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: ever verify what was happening againstside this machine. It just
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: it's impossible. Like, let's we get'll take a look inside
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Actually, so this doctor Brooks Agnew suggests that the reason
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: the First War in Iraq turned out the way it did, Yeah,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: is because that was an early example of US deploy
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: and harp And that's why troops just gave up in
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: mass the way they did, because we controlled their minds
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: and made them do it. And I don't know I
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: would have given up too. If you look into the
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: first War in Iraq another Yeah, we've done a podcast
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: episode about on a show called the Nineties Sucked. Look
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: into the Highway of Death. Yes, you'll understand why people
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: surrendered without risking battle with the American military. We were
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: slaughtering people.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: Has he not looked at the history of American warfare,
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: like even in the twenty.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: First century, like, come on, man, you're twenty.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: Eleven with this shit, Like you can't can tell that,
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Like this is just what we do.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And if people aren't familiar the Highway of Death,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: there was this situation that happened during the First War
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: in Iraq where I believe it was people were told
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: to get out of Kuwait and returned to Iraq, and
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: there was one stretch of highway that they were able
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: to take to do this, and the American governments like,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: get the fuck out, and once people start fleeing, we
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: blocked both ends of the highway and just started bombing
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: the shit out of that. I think the Highway of
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Death speaks more to why people were surrendering the way
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: they were Iraq.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: War well, but also they weren't all surrendering. No, there
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: was a war we were fighting. So for one thing,
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: why didn't we just make them all do it? And
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: for another thing, the people who surrendered saw what happened
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: to the people who didn't. And look, I'm not an imperialist.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: I think it's awful how we're conducting ourselves around the world.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: But like, if I'm a Republic Guard soldier in the
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: First War, I'm gonna fuck it surrender to like obviously.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And my last gripe with this part of the
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: episode is, well, if the military can do that, well,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: what happened in Afghanistan? We were in Afghanistan. For there
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: are people I know who have been alive less time
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: than we were in Afghanistan. Yeah, why didn't we just
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: maybe fire this weapon at the Taliban ten years ago
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: something like that when we had it? So I don't know,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: I do know. I know that that didn't happen. I
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: know that that HARP. I'm just gonna say it. I
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: don't think HARP was used to get Iraqis to surrender
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: in the first goal.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: For I do love the apocalypse scenario that this doctor
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: says HARP is capable of producing. Basically, he says, look,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: you're shooting all this energy up into the ionosphere. If
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: for some reason that gets deflected back to Earth, you
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: are going to have and this is a quote, a
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: lightning bolt of devastating proportions. Picture fifty Mount Saint Helen's
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: volcanoes going off every second for a minute. And I
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: did picture that. Hell yeah, yeah, that is how I
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: want the world to end. Are you kidding me?
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: I would watch that movie absolutely.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: It's visually stunning.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like if Roland Emerick, you know, wants to make it,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: like fuck that guy. But like if he wants to
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: make a movie about like harp, like causing crazy lightning
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: strikes that destroy the world, I will watch it. I
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: absolutely will. But uh, like this is again the whole problem,
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Like this guy is just epitomizing the problem, which is
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: he's saying it's doing like four things at the same
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: time that don't have any thing to do with each other.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: So like, shit, man, I feel like pick a lane
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: then maybe try to you know, choose that one instead,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: because also there's no way that it's going to cause
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: lightning strikes. Do you know how much energy there is
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: a lightning strike?
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: So much so it's time for another team meeting. At
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: this team meeting, June suggests they talk to a guy
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: named Nick Begich and he has kind of the like
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: he's the leading figure in anti harp, the anti harp community,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: the DIY anti harp community, and he says he will talk,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: but he'll only talk to Jesse, and June says it's
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: because his brother is a senator, so he trusts Jesse
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: to which Jesse replies, are us Senator. It's like, no,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Jesse of Venezuelan, Senator, right, what kind of question is that?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: So Jesse heads out on the road again. He's heading
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: to the head of the dragon. He's going on directly
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: to HARP. Of course, since southwest Alaska, so it's on
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: another planet. Basically, I've said this before. I feel like
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: we bought Alaska mostly for research and development purposes. We
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: were like that, yeah, we can do we can do
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: something with that land, and it's not even connected to us.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: So if things go wrong, sorry Canada.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: So maybe I look, you know, it definitely didn't make
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: sense for most other reasons.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Well, my sources tell me, oh, of.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Course sources done well then, and of course it must
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: be true.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: The government pumps those sources into my head using.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Heart Jesus vicious circle.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: So Jesse's getting a helicopter view of HARP. It does
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: look pretty creepy, sure, but any installation of anything in
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: the middle of nowhere looks creepy. Yes, Someone in the
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: helicopter mentions that the employees at HAARP don't really know
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: exactly what HARP is used for, which that would definitely
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: be true if HARP is being used for nefarious purposes. Sure,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: like there's gonna be most of the people aren't gonna
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: know that, right, because that's that's gonna be a hard
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: secret to keep. Also, is Alex flying this helicopter?
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: I could not tell he was in the front, So yeah,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe he's a pilot.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah he was ware. I would expect Jesse Ventura to
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: have been.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like maybe they like that's a that's a you know,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: skill that they should have used more later on if
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: he's a helicopter pilot.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: And as you mentioned earlier, they tried to arrange a
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: tour ahead of time and the people at HARP were
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: like absolutely not, no, thank you. So they just show
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: up and start ringing the buzzer and I love that
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: the people at HARP just disable the buzzer. And it's
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: just like either that or Jesse it probably right. What
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: do we think of the creepy civilian who just up
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: when they're there? And it's like, yeah, he was weird.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: He's a weird though, I mean sure, and like, look,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe he's just some random guy who got on
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: camera and they got him to sign a disclosure agreement.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: But look, the show, and I don't want to cast
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: dis persians on conspiracy theory with Jesse Ventura, but it
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: uses actors. We know it uses actors, like we know
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: it does because I'm pretty sure one of his regulars
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: is in this episode if I'm not mistaken. If not,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: it's the next one, mister Whitevan. But uh oh yeah,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: so yeah, I don't know. Maybe this guy was like
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: some random guy.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: It's a confusing moment. This guy shows up and is like, look,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: if we were just in the bar and you were,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: you know, shooting the shit, and you brought up harp
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: and you were like, can I get a tour, maybe
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: things would be different. And Jesse I'm sure, is like,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: so if I turn the cameras off, we can go in,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: and he's like absolutely not. Why do you get that?
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Then?
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Just why are you even here? And uh Jesse Ventura says,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: when I get denied something, I do the opposite of
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: getting intimidated. I get angry and then they just get
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: the fuck out of there. Right something starts to inter
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: They claim something started interfering with the camera equipment, which
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: would be sure hilarious. Yeah, someone was like just point
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: one of the beams, just one of the beams.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Down there, like they could have just but again we're
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: talking if we're talking about a beam, then like it
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: makes it difficult to believe that it's directed to the
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: ground for any reason. But you know, like they could
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: have at least like run a magnet or something over
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: the top of the camera, like that's something to make
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: it go like squiggily, you know, to like really sell
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: the camera distortionit. It would have been good.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have helped. But I mean, this is
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: such a long time ago. We didn't I don't think
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: we even had the technology.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Oh of course, of course we didn't have magnets back then.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: But also this is the second episode. I guess you're
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: still figuring out how how the bullshit?
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're still crawling, they're still learning to walk. At
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: this point, June heads off to talk to the son
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: of Bernard Eastman, the scientist behind the Eastman patent. He
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: says his dad developed HARP strictly for Cold War defense
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: purposes and to do good around the world. Sure, he says,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: his dad developed this thing just for you know, to
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: do good and to protect the United States, and for
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: one if that's true, like how much of a fucking idealist.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Were you working in the Reagan administration that late in
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: the Reagan administration and you're like, Oh, they're just going
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: to use this for good.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: It's fine.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: It's like, of course it would have turned into a
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: weapon if it was capable of being a weapon. And
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know that. I trust that his dad didn't
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: know that, right, Like, you're not going to just tell
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: your kid you help the government build a death ray.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Maybe he would if you work for the Reagan administration.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, yeah, just working for the Reagan administration,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to tell my kid that exactly.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: So Eastland is the best source they talk to because
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: he is intimately familiar with the person who developed this thing.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: So of course they spend the least amount of time
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: talking to him. And they move on to Jesse, heading
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: to the village next to Harp And this is a weird, weird,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: weird moment. For one thing, he sends a private investigator first,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: because he hears that the locals don't like when strangers
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: show up. And he sends this private investigator and she
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: comes back and is like, yeah, locals don't like when
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: strangers show up, and so of course Jesse and the
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: team then just go knock on the door of every
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: local in town hoping to find someone who will talk
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: to them. So it's like, what was the whole private
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: investigator thing?
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Even for just sounds cool?
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like she was just going around asking
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: questions and also being like, Hey, if a guy who
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: looks like he's from the government shows up, don't shoot him.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: It's just Jesse Ventura. He's he's here from the anti government.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Uh. I feel like we have totally missed talking about
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: like the interviews with like Harlan Girard and the people
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: who claim to be targeted by this like mind control
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: from Harp Like uh, because that that comes out throughout
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: the episode, and I found that that's the part where
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: I was saying I find extremely sad because he also
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: talks to some people up close. I think he also
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: talks to some people like closer to Harp.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he talks to well, he goes to the village
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: directly next to right, yeah, and talks to a bunch
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: of people there, right.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: But then he also is talking to like a few
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: other like the guy I sent you a link for
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: this article that has a lot to do with Oh.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I read that. Is that guy's in this episode?
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the old guy in the episode. Oh yeah,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: very old man who we've skipped, but like he's there's
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: several cutaways to this guy into a couple other people
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: talking about their experiences with mind control. And I mean,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: the problem with these segments. I just want to touch
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: on them because it really made an impact on me.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: But the problem with these segments is that they are
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: just very sad because they are clearly people who are
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: suffering from some sort of late onset schizophrenia of some
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: sort and are talking about the voices that they hear
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: in their heads and the way that it's causing them
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: to be extremely paranoid about aspects of their everyday life.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: This article, maybe we can link to it. In the notes,
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: they talk about like imagining that his like family and
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: neighbors are like putting on a show around him, and
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: like being on a plane and that the passengers are
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: mimicking his behavior and that sort of thing, which is
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: very like creepy and like if I experienced that, I
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: would be freaked out. But like the main angle that
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: I get, you know, and he also talks to a
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: woman in this episode who claims that these same voices
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: and rays are causing her pain throughout her body, like
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: electric shock type pain and that, and like it just
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: and look, I'm not I'm not only am I not
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: a radio technician or a meteorologist, I'm also not a psychologist,
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: so I can't like diagnose these people. But like it
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: just sounds like it's like, especially with Harlan, who gets
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: the most screenplay in this episode and screen time in
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: the in the article, like he's it just sounds like
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: there's people who have a stigma against mental illness and
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: who don't like to be perceived as crazy and have
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: developed these symptoms at a point in life where they
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: have established an image of themselves as sane. And it's
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: just very sad that you know, they've fallen into this
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: community that is, I mean, they're finding comfort in it
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: in some ways, which is good, I guess, but it's
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: just sad. And like Jesse was just going in like
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: this is amazing. I can't believe this isn't what an
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: incredible experience. Thank you so much for telling us your truth.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: And it's just kind of exploitative. I didn't like it.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a thing you see with a lot of
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: conspiracy related media, is stuff like that. It's easy to
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: run it by someone else or do a little more
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: research and be like, well here's what it could also be, right,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: And yeah, you never really see that with the conspiracy
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: theory with jesse Ventura tin.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. And you know, and I had the
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: same complaint when funny enough, in the episode right before
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: this one, the first episode of the series, the nine
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: to eleven episode, where he's bringing out you know, grieving spouses.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: And stuff like that.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, that's gross. You'll need that shit.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And in this episode, when he goes looking for
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: people who are willing to talk, he ends up finding
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: like the owner operator of a little snackshack, who yeah,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: she's just like, yeah, man, people think it's the government.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Then he talks to a snowplow operator who says he
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: used to plow the snow out by heart. And you
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: can tell with that guy, I don't know, I feel
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: like he's gaining confidence in what he can tell jesse
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Ventura without jesse Ventura sounding skeptical. Yeah, because it starts
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: with him just being like, yeah, you know, I just
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: thought it was weird out there, and then he's like, oh, well,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: once I was at a bar and I overheard someone
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: talking about mind control, and I went up and asked
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: him and he was like, yeah, man, we can do
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: all kinds of mind control. And it's like, Nope, that's
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: not how that would work. So I don't I don't
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: know if he needed I feel like this was an
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: unnecessary step. I get that you want to talk to
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: the people who live near it, but also maybe they
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: don't want to talk to you for the same reason
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: the woman who bought Kurt Cobain's house doesn't want to
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: talk to me, right because they just want to be
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: fucking left alone, right.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like and yeah, I just think this episode
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: could definitely have done without any sort of civilian, non
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: quote unquote expert interviews. I think the yeah getting into
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: the people who are quote supposedly affected by this thing
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: is just gross.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: There's one really great moment where Jesse's interview in the
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: snowplow operator and the guy goes, you ever heard of
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: that mind control the Russians use on their prisoners, and
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Jesse just goes, yeah, yeah, moves on. It's like, you
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: don't need any other neither you want to elaborate, and
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: the guy, the guy sort of does. He goes, they
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: send out a frequency and then people do what they want. Sure, okay,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: can we get can you put a link to a
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Wikipedia page on the screen or something. This guy's dog
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: certainly seem to agree that something's going on. It is
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: a good boy, because they are. They're losing their shit
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: in the background. So the last person they talked to
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: is doctor Begich, who is probably the leading authority on
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: anti harp information. He looks like the keyboard player in
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: an eighties new wave band, but in twenty ten, right,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: And he.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: Says, cool is what you're saying. He looks very cool.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: He looks very cool. He says, we have this technology
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: in that Russia and China are pursuing it as well.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: And he brings up that there is actually a nineteen
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: seventy seven treaty against manipulating the weather and I looked
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: it up and yes, it's part of the Sharva convention. Yeah,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: so again it's it's not that crazy.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: That I guess, But that doesn't mean that it's possible.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Don't mean that it's impossible.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: Well, no, I'm not saying it means it's impossible. But
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: you know, shit, man, I feel like the Geneva Convention
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: is just trying to be pretty comprehensive there.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe so. Doctor Begich demonstrates the mind control capabilities
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: of Harp on Jesse Ventura, and here's another experiment where
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, but no, you're not You're not actually
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: doing what hearp does, because what he does is he
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: attaches these piezoelectric pickups basically like those are what are
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: in guitars. Guitar pickups are that, and he puts them
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: on jesse Ventura's prominent jaw line, and then he pumps
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: some music to it, and jesse Ventura says, he hears
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: it like it's coming through the top of his head
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: or he hears it in his head. Sure, that's not
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: how harp works. That's not that's not how the heart.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: You know, if little harp works. If I have to
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: attach receivers to my jaw or art to pump messages
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: to me, I'm fine. I feel like we can. Yeah,
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's an intrusion into my life that
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: I can avoid.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Right, I would just choose not to do that.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: And also, that's technology I don't know how far we
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: were from developing it by the time the show came out.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: But like that's a thing. Now there's bone conduction, yes.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not both induction earphones, but like thing and
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: things like like a throat mic you know where you
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: have like a microphone on your throat instead of in
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: your ear. Yeah, like yeah, that shit exists.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bose makes glasses that surely wear them. It works
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: using bone conduction. But like in your the area of
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: your temples.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Well, it's like you said, they're pickups. That's that's how
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: pickups work in electric guitars. That's what that is. It's
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: transmitting the signal through an electric cord to an amp.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: So I do still think there's something weird about heart.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: I just again suspicion confirmed. They did not do a
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: great job of presenting the theory in this episode. I
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: don't think any of these experiments were that compelling. No,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: this one is not. Again, It's not like if he
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: had said, all right, I'm gonna show you how harp
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: works and just pulled a fucking gun out of his
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: pocket and fired a beam up at the ceiling and
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: it bounced back down and hit Jesse venture in the head, right,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: He's like, it's not my Sharona. That is how that
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: is how harp works. You did it, but this is
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: not how heart works.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Also, which part of Harph is the min control part? Okay,
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: not the weather part. Okay. Look, it's probably missile defense
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: if it's anything. And maybe that was even scrapped because
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Star Wars didn't work either, so you.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, well I could see it again having been
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: a missile defense thing that fell out of use. That's
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying when weapons change. And uh, I do
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: love Jesse's final conclusion as this episode ends, which is
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: that a government program run by the US Navy doesn't
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: show out a former Navy seal unless they've got something
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: to hide. Wow, yeah, clearly they've got everyone has something
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: to hide from Jesse Ventura. Yeah, absolutely, that's absolutely clear.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, the government has stuff to hide.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Of course they know this is a whole thing.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Is that how being a Navy seal works? You just
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: show up and yeah, pull your challenge coin out of
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: your pocket. You're exactly, I'm a Navy seal.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you flash your badge and.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Then you get shot in the knee.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Fright.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: So that's our episode. I think you have any final
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: thoughts on HARP.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: No, I don't have any thoughts on HARP any like,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: this is it. We've gotten them all on tape. I
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: think it's weird. It's a cool place.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: I do encourage people to watch the CBC documentary about HARP.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: We'll link to it in the show notes. They interview
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: a representative from Heart Piece of Government guy, and he,
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: more than anything else, will convince you that there is
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: something shady going on with HARP, like even the mind
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: controls stuff. When they ask him about it, he's like, yeah,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: it's possible, but I don't know what we would use
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: it for.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, sure, that's convincing, honestly, like, okay, yeah, that
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: makes sense. That's kind of what I feel about it.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: This dude might as well be pet in a cat
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: during this interview, like he is up to sun. You
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: should be twiddling a mustache.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. My other last Harp thought is that I would
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: like to go there. I think it'd be cool. It
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: looks cool.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: I would too, until I feel like, until I got there, yeah,
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, all right, we saw HARP. Where are
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: we eating tonight?
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Sure?
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Oh no, this is I mean, eat a bear this
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: is something you have to contend to. Basically, anywhere in
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: the rural uh, like Alaska that you want to you
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: want to visit any sort of Arctic clang just gonna
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: be kind of tough for you know. I doubt they
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: have a lot of like steak and shakes or anything
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: up there.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Man, I fuck with a steak and shake.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: I think it's gotten worse than it used to be.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's as good as it used to be.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: No, but it's still pretty good. Can't keep one open
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: in LA.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: I know they're not even twenty four hours in Indiana anymore,
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: at least not near me.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, come on, bulls, it's the point of having breakfast?
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: Then? This is what is the point of a steak
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: and shake that's not twenty four hours? That's my final
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: thought on hunt.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I feel like harp is the reason.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: Yes, Oh my god. They they pointed one of their
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: three hundred and thirty beams at the steak of Shakes
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: and they were like, no, you're closing.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sonic did this.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: Oh so those dastardly fools at Sonic they all know
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: what they're tampering with.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Johnny Rockets that nay, I've always thought that was a
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: government thing with a name like Johnny Rockets.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: Of course, of course, So that's our.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Episode next week we're gonna do. I think I'm gonna
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: put this episode out for free. So this is one
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: of the things we get up to when we do
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: bonus episodes.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, everybody, there are.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Nine more of these floating around. Well, the ninth, one
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: tenth total will be next week, which will bess a
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: subscriber only episode. But we talk about Jesse Ventura a lot,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: and I feel like we're round and third heading for
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: home when it comes to covering this.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: Series, literally rounding third, Yeah, third season.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've covered most of the episodes. There's a couple
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: stragglers that we haven't gotten to, which I'm sure we will.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: But you know, if you had told me, like a
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: few years ago that I would watch every single episode
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura from twenty eleven, I
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: probably would have laughed at your face.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: And yet here we are, I would have been like,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: I already did you mean, I'm gonna watch it again?
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: And you've watched more because now you've seen the police
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: State episode.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Oh that's right. Well, no, I saw the Police State episode.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: Oh it was pulled after it air. Got I thought
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: there was one that just didn't go to air.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: It's too hot for TV, so uh yeah, stay tuned
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: for that episode. Subscribe at Patreon dot com, slash on
• 1:00:15
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• 1:00:18
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• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: bonus episodes and uh, that's all I got to plug.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: How about you?
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Uh you can find me at Twitter at high there heidr.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: I'm also on letterboxed. I've been I've been really keeping
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: up with my letterbox this year.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know what.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: It's a movie review. It's like Twitter, but for movie reviews.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: And it's not annoying.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: So uh it sounds unlikely, but okay.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, it might be annoying if you follow me,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: but but in general I don't have to look at
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: my feet, so in general it's a pretty good site.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Uh all right, I think that's it. Let's get out
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: of here. You say goodbye bye, goodbye everybody. We love you.