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Bloomberg's Nizza on Trump's Visit With President Nieto (Audio) · Bloomberg Intelligence

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  Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business splash. This is taking stock with Pim's Box
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  Speaker 1: and Kathleen Hayes on Bloomberg Radio Donald Trump UH and
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  Speaker 1: a candidate for the US presidency, the actual Mexican President,
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  Speaker 1: their meeting this afternoon. The it was the meeting was
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  Speaker 1: announced just hours beforehand, but apparently there was an agenda
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  Speaker 1: already hammered out by both sides to set this up. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this is the same Donald Trump who famously said, as
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  Speaker 1: his campaign was getting off the ground during the primaries
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  Speaker 1: that the US would build a wall with Mexico to
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  Speaker 1: keep out illegal immigrants and Mexican would Mexic would pay
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  Speaker 1: for it. This just you kind of wonder if this
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  Speaker 1: is you know, Lamb's lying down with lions or what.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway to make sense for it. Now, we're very
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  Speaker 1: happy to welcome back to the show from our Bloomberg
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  Speaker 1: Politics team, Mike NEETs. In fact, he's the executive editor
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  Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Politics. A Mike, what's going on the world
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  Speaker 1: is a complicated place, isn't it though? And fascinatingly interesting? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: And we're all kind of struggling to compute all the
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  Speaker 1: angles here on what's going on today. And and like
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  Speaker 1: you said, what we started thinking about just a few
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  Speaker 1: hours ago late last night. Um, you know, Trump has
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  Speaker 1: a lot to gain by going abroad and and uh
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  Speaker 1: looking presidential and standing shoulder shoulder with the leader of
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  Speaker 1: another nation, especially one that he uh, a nation that
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  Speaker 1: he's criticized so heavily during his campaign. UM, and the
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  Speaker 1: Mexican leader apparently had had a lot to gain to
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  Speaker 1: his His approval ratings in Mexico are extremely low right now.
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  Speaker 1: He's heading into a State of the Union later this week,
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  Speaker 1: and he's got a few he's got a plagiarism scandal
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  Speaker 1: dealing with that he's dealing with too, So I think
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to change the subject. So is how unusual
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  Speaker 1: is it for uh a sitting president of any country
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  Speaker 1: to meet with someone who's running for office from the
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  Speaker 1: United States. It's six extremely unusual, and especially in this
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  Speaker 1: formula of a setting. Uh. We really can't think of
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  Speaker 1: another time that this has happened. Obviously, Uh there's that
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  Speaker 1: that old saying about politics stops at the water's edge
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  Speaker 1: for for Americans and UH, and that there's no parties
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  Speaker 1: once you go abroad, but when you're campaigning on one side,
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of different. And I think there's there's even
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  Speaker 1: some uh, some serious uh ways that this expresses itself,
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  Speaker 1: such as, UH, whether Donald Trump can actually engage in
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  Speaker 1: negotiations with a foreign leader as opposed to discussions. So
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  Speaker 1: I think they're they're being very careful and describing everything
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  Speaker 1: happening today and everything happened in the run up to
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  Speaker 1: this meeting as discussions and not anything more serious response
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  Speaker 1: from the Clinton camp. Yeah, they're they're trying to remind
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  Speaker 1: everyone about how how harsh Donald Trump has been towards
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  Speaker 1: Mexico and how uh no matter what happens today, it
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  Speaker 1: won't change the fact that he that that he said
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  Speaker 1: certain things and that he stands for certain things. So
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  Speaker 1: they're really trying to focus on the substance rather than
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  Speaker 1: the you know, the style of this event. So this
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  Speaker 1: is obviously occurring today. Donald Trump is getting ready to
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  Speaker 1: give a speech on immigration. How do we gonna how
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  Speaker 1: do you expect what happens to day to weave into
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  Speaker 1: that speech? So yeah, I think if you take a
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  Speaker 1: step back and look look at what people were saying
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  Speaker 1: about Trump and his immigration proposals maybe two weeks ago, uh,
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  Speaker 1: it looked like he was a bit of a mess.
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  Speaker 1: He was him and his advisers were saying a lot
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  Speaker 1: of contradictory things about what he stood for and what
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  Speaker 1: he didn't stand for. UM, it was very confusing. They
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  Speaker 1: canceled an immigration speech once they they looked like they
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  Speaker 1: were really they were also in the middle of overhauling
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  Speaker 1: the campaign that UH, Paul Mantaforth, the former campaign chairman
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  Speaker 1: left and and uh two others took over, and so
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  Speaker 1: that they kind of looked like they didn't they weren't
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  Speaker 1: sure about what they were going to do. But that
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  Speaker 1: has culminated, it culminated today with this kind of bold
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  Speaker 1: series of events that look that that look like the
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  Speaker 1: product of a lot of planning. Okay, Hispanic leaders in
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  Speaker 1: the United States, elected officials, leaders of various organizations. One
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  Speaker 1: are some of the latest things they've said. Do we
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  Speaker 1: have any response today for many of those people about
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  Speaker 1: Trump meeting with and the opinion yet Mexico's president. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so the meeting is going going on right now, So
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  Speaker 1: I'm really curious to hear what they think once it's over.
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  Speaker 1: But I think the the uh, the comments that I
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  Speaker 1: saw before and earlier today, we're all quite negative, you know,
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  Speaker 1: kind of in the spirit of what Hillary Clinton said
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  Speaker 1: that that he said a lot of things and he
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  Speaker 1: stands for a lot of things, and no meeting can
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  Speaker 1: So what if Donald Trump says comes out and says,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I think Mexico is a great country.
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  Speaker 1: I think Mexicans are great people, and I think he
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  Speaker 1: has said words to that effect. What he said is
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  Speaker 1: he thinks that there's too many Mexican criminals. He's visiting
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  Speaker 1: the said rapists who are immigrating. He's also said he
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  Speaker 1: thinks that illegal immigration not going through the proper channels
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  Speaker 1: is wrong. So what if he says, I still think that.
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  Speaker 1: But guess what, I know that we have tons of Hispanics,
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  Speaker 1: you know, children of immigrants who got who legally I'm
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  Speaker 1: all for them, I'm all for the country. Does that
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  Speaker 1: somehow start treating the tide for Donald Trump. So it's
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  Speaker 1: certainly a softening, it's certainly something worth trying for him. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's unclear whether his policies can change that much
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  Speaker 1: given the coalition he's put together so far. But if
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  Speaker 1: he saw softens on certain things such as those, he
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  Speaker 1: might be able to attract more of the areas he's
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  Speaker 1: struggling with, such as women. When you say the coalitions
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  Speaker 1: put together to be mostly white men as opposed to
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  Speaker 1: Hispanic or African America. What do you mean by so
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  Speaker 1: not so? White men and women without college degrees are
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  Speaker 1: kind of the main core, and they it is cool
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  Speaker 1: in the people running his campaign you mean his followers,
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  Speaker 1: then he's solition. Okay, So what does he have to
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  Speaker 1: do in your mind? You got about thirty seconds left her.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, is there anything he can do to convince
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  Speaker 1: the rank and file, the people on the street, the
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  Speaker 1: middle the middle class of this country who are descended
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  Speaker 1: for um, you know, Hispanic immigrants, that he is on
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  Speaker 1: their side somehow. So I really think we have to
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  Speaker 1: take this day by day. Donald Trump may and today
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  Speaker 1: very positively. You know, he he might have gone all
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  Speaker 1: the way to Mexico, had a productive discussion and then
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  Speaker 1: uh precedent with with the Mexican president deliver speech. It
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  Speaker 1: could all be uh, it could all be quite substantive.
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  Speaker 1: But he's got put together a lot more days. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna make that presidential debate all the more interesting. Mike
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