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- 5:08side note. I finally finished this book. I finished it. M hm,
- 5:14so eventually I want gonna talk about it. Those of you listening the
- 5:18Fourth Wing mm hmmmm mm hmm. It's good, it's spicy. I'm not
- 5:28one for hetero spiciness, let me tell you. Mm hmmm mm hmmm,
- 5:33m mm hmm. But you heard it here. You heard it here,
- 5:41folks. Hey on bisexual fagots a thing. Okay, I may be gay
- 5:46as hell, but I'm still a little a little. It did it did
- 5:49a little. Straight you're gayer than me, and I still like women,
- 6:01and I'm I'm again. That explains, That explains your fascination with titties.
- 6:12When you see a nice parrot titties, you can't say no, it's nice
- 6:15parrot titties again, or on a man or a woman. See, okay,
- 6:23a man, I will never say no titties or teddies. Okay,
- 6:30but Benetta freaking lady dim dress step on me. Yes, m hm m
- 6:39hmmm. Not the kind of cities I'm looking for, Henry Cavill. Titties,
- 6:46that's better, okay. Anyway, so we're not here to talk about
- 6:50titties. We're here to talk about books. I mean, books have titties
- 6:58and titty books. That's that's not the kind of content we're doing here.
- 7:06Well, we could, but we won't. Hm, you won't. Okay,
- 7:13we've already well wait, we've already have technically because since we reviewed like
- 7:18the Well the Green Creek Chronicles and Bear Outer and The Kid those are pretty
- 7:24spicy books. We never did Tails from Varinia? Have we not yet?
- 7:30I want to, but I need to get through them all first. We'll
- 7:34hurry up. You just finished the fourth Wing, so I had the Iron
- 7:39Flame to do the second book, and then I'm gonna go back to Tales
- 7:42Rana. Mm hmmm. Hm. You need you gotta, you gotta expose
- 7:46yourself more to that gay unicorn. Man. I need I need some good
- 7:50spies, Gary the gay hornless unicorn, Like my God, that that that
- 7:57he is you his, that's you at your core anyway, So enough about
- 8:07cities and gay unicorns. Wait, remember you talked to me about I found
- 8:16this in the middle of the street, and I'm like, it's destiny.
- 8:18I'm taking. I don't know, yeah, because whose it was or where
- 8:22it belongs to, but it's mine now. Yeah. Like literally, when
- 8:28I started reading the first book, The Lightning Struck Heart, as the character
- 8:35known as Gary the gay hornless Unicorn, yeah, I was reading it and
- 8:41just look and just reading the dialogue between him and the main character, and
- 8:46I was like whipped out my phone, pull up messenger and to and message
- 8:54Devin here like you're a gay, You're a gay hornless unicorn. I was
- 9:01offended. And then he read the book and then he started reading the book
- 9:07and he's like, oh, I see it now, Yeah, I see
- 9:11it is not wrong. But that's the future series for another day. Today
- 9:18we're going to continue on our mystical journey through the Wheel of Time series.
- 9:26Yes, people, we're not we're Oh. I was about to say we're
- 9:28not even halfway through, but yeah, we are halfway. We are.
- 9:33And today we're reviewing book eight, oh the Wheel of Time. Hell yeah.
- 9:39And so book eight is titled half of daggers, and some very awesome
- 9:46stuff happens in this book. I think the most interesting thing, like the
- 9:52one the most interesting thing that happens in this book happens bright off the bat.
- 9:56So it's not like dragging through an entire book only for it to have
- 9:58like this one climactic battle or event happened right off the bat, like because
- 10:05for the past two books, so since book six, and I think actually
- 10:11I think they hinted head in book five or like they started noticing it in
- 10:13book five, and then book six came around and everybody was like, hey,
- 10:20you know, some you know, winter should be in full swing,
- 10:22but it feels like we're in the middle of summer. It to droughts hot.
- 10:28You gotta do something about it. Because Dark One had locked the seasons
- 10:33in place, so instead of it naturally progressing through the summer into fall and
- 10:39then winter, it just stayed like in the middle of summer. Like you
- 10:45know, if you if you live here in the southern United States, by
- 10:48the time August comes around, that is probably the hottest month for US.
- 10:54June and July, Nope, those are those are chill compared to August,
- 11:00because then August comes around and it's hot. It's that's the hottest and driest
- 11:05month typically because like here it's it's already May and it's getting warmer, but
- 11:13it's like still we've been getting a lot of overcast weather. Especially here in
- 11:18Texas, we've been getting a lot of overcast weather. It's still pretty wet.
- 11:20But once we get into late to like late July into August, it's
- 11:24gonna like become drier. We're gonna get more sunny, clear days, and
- 11:30it's gonna be hot as balls. Yeah, sure is so imagine that hot
- 11:37as balls. And we're not talking like not to not to drag people from
- 11:43our viewers from the UK, but I remember reading an article that you guys
- 11:46had a heat wave, but it was your heat your so called heat wave
- 11:50was a crisp eighty eight degree weather. And what I'm talking eight degree fahrenheit.
- 11:58I don't know the Celsius conversion, but here in San Antonio, Texas,
- 12:05eighty eight degrees is actually a nice cool day. Yes, But you
- 12:09also got to remember they're not used to that one. I know they're used
- 12:13to like it being like sixties, seventies or whatever. Hey, people from
- 12:18the people from the northwest of the Northeast. People from the northeastern part of
- 12:22the US where it gets like routinely below zero and they have really cold weather.
- 12:28They give us. They give us Southerners nothing butt it mercilessly for not
- 12:35being able to handle a little below freezing weather, like thirty degree weather.
- 12:39All right, So as a Southerner I am not gonna hold back on the
- 12:46ship talk they get. They get all like, oh like, they get
- 12:50all like, oh, negative thirty that's nothing, that's a warm day.
- 12:56Oh eighty eight degrees, that's nothing. That's a cool day for us US
- 13:00we get one hundred and sixteen degree weather. Yeah, looking m hm anyway,
- 13:09so that's pretty much the kind of weather the Dark One locks the world
- 13:13into. And m and Elaine and Ninive were sent to Ebudar to find a
- 13:22particular tarangreoal called the weather bowl or the bowl of winds, because this turangreioal
- 13:30has the ability to control the weather. Now, this throngreioal just a little
- 13:35backstory about it. It was created during the Age of Legends as a device
- 13:39to regulate the weather. Now, typically a weather bowl would only like you
- 13:46only need like one person or a couple people link together to use it and
- 13:52it'll depending on how you use it, it'll regulate the weather. But the
- 13:58thing is is that our girls aren't really sure how to use it properly,
- 14:03and they want to do they want to use They want to use this weather
- 14:07bowl to its full power to completely unlock the seasons and get things back into
- 14:15motion because they're supposed to be in the middle of winter. They need to
- 14:18get it back into winter because eventually people are going to start starving. People
- 14:22are their game and crops are going to completely dry out, and it's going
- 14:28to cause more problems down the line. So we need to get things back
- 14:31into motion. So they come up with They came up with a plan to
- 14:35enlist the fnmere wind Finders to help them use the weather bowl, because the
- 14:41f n Mirror, as it turns out, are incredible weather workers. In
- 14:46fact, one of the forsaken comments is that the wind finders their weather working
- 14:50abilities is even better than people than the weather working abilities of people from the
- 14:56Age of Legends. Hell On the Age of Legends, most channelers relied on
- 15:01the weather bowl to control the weather rather than their own weaves, but the
- 15:05wind finders over the past three thousand years have developed such complex and such sophisticated
- 15:11weather working weaves that they don't they were a weather bowl isn't really necessary for
- 15:16them, at least on the scale that the weather bowls were originally used.
- 15:20But now with this one weather bowllet that they have access to, they need
- 15:26it using the full strength of thirteen channelers link together and channeling simultaneously into the
- 15:33bowl to unlock the weather, to break the dark One's grip on the world.
- 15:39So whateverly do, let's go ahead and get started, okay, because
- 15:46there's there's a lot that does happen in this book. Now, of course,
- 15:50there is pretty much a lot a lot more politics involved, and we're
- 15:58all also going to see with Rand that he's beginning to suffer from the effects
- 16:03of the taint on the Source. So when he began channeling in the first
- 16:11half of this of the series, he's always been able to sense the taint
- 16:17on the on the male half of the True Source, and he's always described
- 16:23it as like this oil like corruption. It sits right on top of this,
- 16:30the vast ocean that is side in the male half of the Source.
- 16:33So while sight in itself remains pure, that the corruption sits on it like
- 16:41an oil, like a layer of oil on an ocean. So in order
- 16:45in order to reach for and in order to reach and grab a hold of
- 16:49Sidan, you have to reach through that film. And so when you're drawing
- 16:55sighting into you, you're pulling the taint into you as well. First,
- 17:00Rn was able to ignore it, and it really didn't have much effect on
- 17:03him. I mean maybe like a little bit of nausea here and there,
- 17:07or just that feeling of uncleanliness whenever he would draw on the source. But
- 17:15now in this book, we're gonna start seeing him suffering more adverse physical effects
- 17:21from embracing the source, because now Ran Begins is beginning to experience strong dizzy
- 17:27spells, extreme nausea. At one point he actually did when he embraced the
- 17:33source. He actually loses control of his continence and vomits uncontrollably, and he's
- 17:42having a hard time keeping a grip on his emotions, so he's having more
- 17:51bounce of aggression. He is struggling to keep control of himself because he actually
- 17:57can hear the voice of Louis Terren tell him on his past life, and
- 18:03while he's determined, it's that him being able to hear Louis Saren is not
- 18:07really a side effect of the madness, but really him just recalling his past
- 18:14life's memory. But still this memory has a mind of its own, and
- 18:21that he has to not only fight to keep control of Sidon, but make
- 18:23sure that Louis then doesn't try to seize it, because Louise Then is mad
- 18:27as fuck. He is completely insane. Most of the time, he's just
- 18:33like this, babbling incoherent voice in the background of his mind. But sometimes
- 18:41under certain stimuli, like when he's embracing the source or if he's dealing with
- 18:45is a shaman, Louis Seren becomes more violent and more harder to ignore,
- 18:51and at some point Louis Sern himself tries to take control and seize control of
- 18:56Sidon from Rand. So Rand has to fight harder to keep in control and
- 19:03keep loose Theron from taking over, and he also has to deal with dissension
- 19:11among the Ashaman, because already the ashaman have proven themselves to be very effective
- 19:18in battle, especially with the infamous Battle of Dumai as well, and they've
- 19:25proven themselves to be efficient crackers. They've helped him keep the Ayesidaye that ran
- 19:32has under his control and in control, and having them present also seems to
- 19:40keep lord other lords under Rand's control in check, So let's go ahead and
- 19:48get into it. Throughout this book, we're also going to be seeing more
- 19:51from we don't really see much. I'm sorry, we actually don't see much
- 19:56of we don't see at all, because after the events of book seven,
- 20:03we're not going to see or hear from Matt until the next book. Well,
- 20:07actually, hold on, I'm sorry, not the next book. Yeah,
- 20:15it is the next book. I'm sorry, I'm all over the place.
- 20:18So we actually do get to see more of Matt in book nine,
- 20:22but in book eight we're kind of left hanging wondering is he alive? Is
- 20:26did he survive the Sean Sean attack of Abu Dhar Because the Shan Shan have
- 20:33made their move. They've already taken ten Chico and Amadisha, which is the
- 20:41home country of the White Cloaks. The White Cloaks have all been have all
- 20:45but been dismantled by the Shan Juan, and now they've attacked Abudar and taken
- 20:52control of it. And Ran does find this out later on, and he
- 20:56and later on in the book he does come into confrontation with them and in
- 21:00an attempt to push them not only push them away from the borders of Ilian,
- 21:06which is now under Ram's control, He's also he also was hoping to
- 21:11take the fight directly to Abu Dhar, but we'll see more of that later.
- 21:15We don't see much of Igwayne in this book. We do there are
- 21:19some small scenes with her. She's slowly moving her forces north to Tarbolan.
- 21:26The thing is is that the whole confrontation with Elieda and Tarvalan is being dragged
- 21:30out. She does towards the end of this book she does give the order
- 21:36for her forces to make completely move all the way towards Tarbolon, and they
- 21:42accomplish this by opening a massive gateway outside to outstep to the fields outside of
- 21:51Tarbolan, and all of her forces, all the Isidaie and the soldiers that
- 21:55Gareth Brinn had recruited for all moved through. They completely bipouned and or in
- 22:00the process because Salad or Saladar was in Altera, which is a country on
- 22:04the southern coast of the Westlands, and in order to get to Tarbolon they
- 22:08would have had to cross all the way through Altera, through the small country
- 22:14of Mirandi, through and Or until eventually reaching Tarba Lawn. But when they
- 22:18reached the border of Mirande and and Or, they were met by a large
- 22:25and Dooran force. Because the Andorans weren't really uh, they weren't entirely what's
- 22:33the word, they weren't eager to get involved in an Isodi conflict because it's
- 22:41at this point, even though Elieda has done everything she could to keep the
- 22:48division in the White Tower under wraps, it's pretty common knowledge now that the
- 22:52White Tower is divided and there is a large rebel force of Isidai that are
- 22:59currently going against the White Tower. So the Andorance kind of blocked them from
- 23:03going any further. But after some back and forth with them, and then
- 23:08Alsowaine actually makes a huge power move because many of the sitters that work under
- 23:18her have been trying to control her and direct her actions. Basically they wanted
- 23:25to They're really trying to make Igwaine into a figurehead and make it clear that
- 23:29she's not in control. Agwaine makes a huge power move that not only ensures
- 23:33that he's the one in charge, not these not these sitters, especially there
- 23:40are two sitters that rivals to each other. They're constantly making all these political
- 23:45moves behind Igwayne's back, and they're constantly trying to control her, and at
- 23:49one point they try to blackmail Agwaine, but Igwaine manages to get one over
- 23:56both of them and makes it very clear that under no circumstances are they going
- 24:00to be in charge their sitters for the Hall, and their job is not
- 24:04to is not to direct or control the movements and the decisions of the ambulance
- 24:11seat. Their job is to advise her and help her enforce the laws such
- 24:15fe sets in place. So she basically puts her foot down and now she
- 24:21has the entire rebel Hall of Sitters under her control, and she gives the
- 24:27order that they're going to move. They're going to go ahead and move their
- 24:33entire force to Tarbolong with no delay, and they do this by using a
- 24:37linked circle of thirteen channelers. They open a massive gateway their whole forces move
- 24:44to Tarbolon and at that point we don't see much more of them from this
- 24:47point on, and there's gonna be a few small scenes. I will say
- 24:52that the Forsaken themselves are beginning to become more of an organized force rather than
- 25:00a bunch of idiots doing their own thing. Because at first, when they
- 25:04were all released from their their imprisonment in style Goal, they all scattered throughout
- 25:14the Westlands and began doing their own thing. Uh. So we already knew
- 25:18that Ballal had taken control of Tyr before before Ran came and killed him.
- 25:25Uh, Samuel had Alien. Grendall is currently in Uh. I was about
- 25:33to say Edu Dart, but it's not edw Dar. It's it's just enough.
- 25:36It's uh, oh my god, hold on, let me look at
- 25:45the map. I know where she is. I just like I'm totally blinking
- 25:51on the name aired Doman. That's where she is. So uh, Grendel
- 26:00is hiding in Arab Doman. She took over their capital city and Masana hid
- 26:11herself. Your camera is being weird when you're facing like, yeah, I
- 26:21know, it's because I'm on my phone. And then there we go.
- 26:25Uh sorry, my computer is not working right now, guys, so I
- 26:27have to record from my phone anyway. The forsaken Massana has hidden herself in
- 26:37Tarbaalaan of all places, and she's taking a more direct role in controlling the
- 26:44Black Asia that are still hidden there. At one point, Robin had hidden
- 26:48himself in Caitlin, the capital of Andor, before Ran came along and killed
- 26:53him. Molgedian had hidden herself intent she go, but then she was driven
- 27:00out by Ninive and Elaine. Landfeir was pretty much independent at the same as
- 27:10Asmodion. Those two were just doing their own thing, going from places to
- 27:14places cenourage. As it turns out, as we will find out later,
- 27:22On had hidden herself in the Empire of the shan Jtan, and Ishammel was
- 27:30directing them all from the shadows, or at least trying to before he died.
- 27:34And the thing is is that several of at this point, more than
- 27:40half of the Forsaken had been killed. So Shamel was killed, Agonor and
- 27:47Balthamel had been killed, Landfeir had been killed, and Robin had been killed,
- 27:52and so is Samael. And the thing is is that the Forsaken don't
- 27:57state dead. There's belonged to the Dark One, and as a result,
- 28:04they just get reborn. So at the moment of their death, the dark
- 28:07One, depending on depending on the circumstances of their death, this dark One
- 28:15will revive them and put their souls in a new body, and he's done
- 28:18that with several of them already. In fact, we've already seen the reincarnation
- 28:25of a Shamel. He was that mysterious figure that appeared in Shadar Logoth and
- 28:30helped and he had helped Rand save Rand from Nashadhar. So his soul had
- 28:37been placed in the body of a young man. He's about the same height
- 28:40as Brand, but he has dark, weavy hair and dark eyes. And
- 28:44the thing is is that he no longer goes by the name is Shamel,
- 28:48which in the Old tongue means betrayer of hope. He now goes by the
- 28:52new name Mordan, which is the old tongue word for death. And the
- 29:00thing about is Shamel is that Shamel, even in his new life, is
- 29:03that shit crazy. And that's because a Shamel no longer uses the True Source.
- 29:08Instead, he completely relies on the dark One's power, which is called
- 29:14the True Power. So the dark One's power is similar to the Creator's power,
- 29:19which is the True Source, except whereas a true Source is a force
- 29:26of light and creation, the True Power is a four force of darkness and
- 29:33destruction, and pretty much like the True Source, the Truth the True Power
- 29:40has a stimulant effect, so it is highly addictive. But it unlike the
- 29:47True Source, the True Power is even more addictive and uh it actually causes
- 29:55physical changes in your body. The most prevalent change that you will notice is
- 30:00the appearance of these black spots that move around. These black spots that appear
- 30:06on your eye. Mogetian calls them saw saa. That's how you spell it,
- 30:11sah. And the more you use the True Power, the more these
- 30:18little black spots begin to appear in your eye. And while they don't obscure
- 30:23your vision, they are very noticeable. And I think it's hinted that eventually
- 30:32the Saw will completely turn your eyes black. And while it's I'm not necessarily
- 30:38sure what other physical changes it causes to your body, it's hinted that it
- 30:42does have. Using the True Powers, there are consequences to using it,
- 30:48so it's hinting that it may cause further degradation of your body, unlike the
- 30:55Troof's force, which has more like health benefits, like it extends your life
- 31:02and it makes you feel more alive, which is where the addictive quality comes
- 31:07from the True Power is It's like the difference between taking weed and taking heroin.
- 31:15What a difference. Yeah, Heroin, Like yeah, it's like ooh,
- 31:19it's super addictive and it has like you know, it's I'm not entirely
- 31:26sure what the HyG is, Like I've never done Heroin and I'm not planning.
- 31:30I have no plans on doing it. But but it does have severe
- 31:36impacts on your body, so it CAUs it causes a lot of detrimental changes
- 31:42to your body, like uh, like increase, Like it increases like premature
- 31:48it it increases the likelihood of premature aging and anything. I think the True
- 31:56power is more of like crack, like taking crack because yeah, like the
- 32:00it's the addictive quality is there, and it's more dream but it causes your
- 32:07body to degrade even further, whereas like you know, the True Source is
- 32:13like a shot of adrenaline, but because like it's like you feel more alive,
- 32:17your senses are more heightened. You know. It's like without active,
- 32:22without channeling, without the True source, it's like is anything real. It's
- 32:27like the it's like the world. It's like without it, it's like the
- 32:30world is lost all color and all life to it. So see, there
- 32:37there's the clear differences will get in. When she first encountered a shaml as
- 32:40morgan Uh, when she realized that he highly is using the True power a
- 32:51lot, which which is noted by the presence of the saw in his eyes.
- 32:55Ah, she realized that he must be using it a lot, and
- 33:02he even used it in the last book when he helped Rant, he shot
- 33:07a pillar, he shot a beam of bilfire at Mashadar, and Rand noticed
- 33:12that he couldn't even sense the weaves. So just like just like channeling,
- 33:17the true source of true power can't be detected by non true power channelers.
- 33:25But unlike the True Source, the true power is not divided into two halves
- 33:29into male or female. It's just one power. It's just one singular force
- 33:37which is probably which later like which you later learned that was the main driving
- 33:43force for the ancient Isida into trying to find the True power. They didn't
- 33:47know that the True power was connected to the Dark One. But what the
- 33:52are motivations? Their motive for seeking out the true powers? Because the true
- 33:59power is not to died by male or female. Because since the True Source
- 34:05is divided into a male and female half male and female channelers really are there's
- 34:10always going to be this line between them. You know, male channelers will
- 34:15be more powerful, able to channel larger quantities of power from the True Source,
- 34:22while females. While while female channelers they may not be able to channel
- 34:28that much raw power like men can, they are able to not only create
- 34:34links with each other to share their power with each other, they're also able
- 34:37to create more dexteritis weaves, so more complicated, more energy efficient thieves,
- 34:45you could say, so like what they can what a man like. A
- 34:50weave that a man would create would typically use more power. Women can create
- 34:54the same weave and it would use a lot less power. But and that
- 35:00was the main motivation for the ancient Isidie, just trying to find the true
- 35:04power to access it was so that way they can finally remove overcome this final
- 35:12barrier between channelers. But then they found then they realized, oh, it
- 35:20comes from the dark one and the true power. Unlike the true source,
- 35:23which uses which basically works in tangent with the pattern and the laws of physics
- 35:30and reality, the true power works by completely tearing that shit apart. So
- 35:37it doesn't work by it doesn't work in tangent with the pattern. It doesn't
- 35:40work or abide by the laws of physics which were set in place by the
- 35:45Creator. It works by completely destroying and breaking those rules. Hell Mordan opened
- 35:53a gateway, and whereas like for a male channeler, HiT's done by boring
- 36:00a hole through the pattern, his gateway literally tore a rift into reality itself.
- 36:07So it wasn't boring a hole through it, it was tearing through it,
- 36:10damn. So yeah, so there's a lot more detrimental. The True
- 36:17Power is more detrimental to the pattern to reality than the True Source because it's
- 36:22since it's coming from a dark entity, like an outer being. Pretty much,
- 36:28that's pretty much what the Dark One is. He is an outer being
- 36:31technically an he can be technically labeled as an elders terror yea, because he
- 36:38is the antithesis of the Creator. So that's what makes the True Power much
- 36:45more dangerous, and it technically is more powerful than the True Source. But
- 36:52that's neither here or there. It really doesn't matter because the Dark One consistently
- 36:58loses to the forces of the life. And the reason for that is because
- 37:01even though the Dark One is the antithesis of the Creator, therefore, by
- 37:07for all intensive purposes, the creators equal. He is an omniscient being,
- 37:12so while he can foresee every outcome of his choices and the choices of his
- 37:16enemies, he is incapable of learning from them. So he knows everything,
- 37:28but he's incapable of learning from learning from it. So he makes a mistake
- 37:34once, he's doomed to repeat that mistake over and over again because he won't
- 37:38be he can't. It doesn't like register her to him, like, oh,
- 37:42he made a mistake, so he's going to do it again and fail
- 37:45again and again and again. So that's the Dark One. And aside from
- 37:52Sean el Slash Morgan, agin Or and Baltamel were both reincarnated. Agin Or
- 37:59was reincarnate and his new name is Ostenar and he's actually he Astinar poses as
- 38:08one of the ashaman so later revealed to be an a shaman that worked directly
- 38:13under Ran for a bit. And uh Balthamil is reincarnated as a rang Gar.
- 38:22But the thing is the Dark One was really displeased with both Balthaml and
- 38:25Aginor, so their reincarnated forms are less than the desirable for them. While
- 38:31agin Or was given another male body, Balthamel was his spirit was placed into
- 38:37the body of a woman, so he he was cross reincarnated. And the
- 38:45thing is that instead of now being able to channel Sidar because he's in his
- 38:52spirits in a woman's body, he still can channel side in so and this
- 38:59catches a lot of people off guard later on because when he channels they are
- 39:00realizing, like male channelers are realizing, Wait a second, that woman is
- 39:06channeling Sided, how is she doing that? And that's because well, she
- 39:14was a guy in a previous life, and Landfeir is reincarnated as a woman
- 39:22named Sedane. And thing about Sedane is that Sedane is weaker than her previous
- 39:30life, not by much. She's no longer the strongest female channeler. And
- 39:37the reason for that is when she died, she died in the realm of
- 39:42the Isle Fin, the fox like people that exist on the other side of
- 39:45that sandstone doorway. She lost a portion of her power because when she was
- 39:52killed by them, they killed her by feeding off of her ability to channel,
- 39:57since she was actively channel when she fell through the doorway. Uh,
- 40:00they started feeding off her power, which in turn killed her. And when
- 40:05the Dark One placed her into her spirit into a new body, she had
- 40:09lost her former strength, so rather being number one, she's now more on
- 40:14like a second level channel so she's more of like a number two on the
- 40:19power scale. Now, if you want to learn more about the power the
- 40:22channeler's power skills, you should definitely look it up or if you're if you
- 40:27want, there is a companion guide that Robert Robert Jordan wrote and he describes
- 40:34the power levels of channelers. Currently, there are only three women who are
- 40:39at the top tier. Landfair was formerly one of them, Semi Rage is
- 40:45another, and there is another channeler who was a former Demane named Olivia.
- 40:52Now Olivia will be introduced in the next book, so we're I'm not really
- 40:58going to talk about her much in this episode, but she technically is introduced
- 41:01in this book because this does she is captured by Rand near the end of
- 41:07this book, which I'll go into in just a second. But Olivia is
- 41:15a woman who is current who is like about four hundred years old. She
- 41:17was collared when she was fourteen, so she's been to Demane her entire life.
- 41:24And when Rand releases her, she reveals to him to him and his
- 41:30allies that she has always hated the shan Kahan, especially the Soldan and she
- 41:35wants and she wants to prove herself to rand in his allies by fighting the
- 41:39shan Chan with everything she's got, and think about the poor thing about the
- 41:45sad thing about Olivia is that because she was a former Demane, a lot
- 41:49of his allies don't trust her. They especially the Asidai and other channelers.
- 41:52They look at her and they're kind of wary of her. Not because of
- 41:57her strength, of her raw strength. I mean, that's that's I mean,
- 42:00that's right, there is a problem, but they're afraid that she may
- 42:08regress into her old ways, Like since a lot of Demoney are so thoroughly
- 42:16brainwashed into believing that they're not being more than animals and they deserve to be
- 42:21collared, they're afraid that she may she may regrets to that again and go
- 42:25back to being at Demaney and allow herself to be collared again. But she
- 42:30makes it clear to everyone that she has no intention of being collared again,
- 42:37which good for her. Yeah, honestly, honestly, with little I've seen
- 42:40of her, I'm on book ten now, Like I'm still in book ten.
- 42:44I'm not even halfway through it. Yeah, I've been slacking, but
- 42:50so far what I've seen of her, she's that ass and she's definitely an
- 42:54asset to RAN's horses. But either way, if you want to learn more
- 43:01about power scaling for both men and women, male and female channelers, you
- 43:06should definitely look up the Companion Guide or just just google it. If you
- 43:10go on the Wikia, there's a chart that goes into more detail on how
- 43:15their power scaling works. And I will say this, Ninive, while she's
- 43:21not the most powerful channeler, she's actually ranked three on that power scale.
- 43:28And while it was pointed out in book four that she was strong enough to
- 43:32face Mogetian and win, she's actually more on Brendel's level, who is also
- 43:39a ranked three. So anyway, aside from Morgan, Austin, gar around
- 43:49Ghar, and Sedaine, none of the other deceased Forsaken have been reincarnated as
- 43:55of yet, I haven't seen some well reincarnated. It was revealed that Robin
- 44:02will not be reincarnated because when Ran blasted him with bailfire, the blast was
- 44:08so powerful that his thread in the pattern was burned back so far there was
- 44:15even the dark One wouldn't be able to pull him back from that. So
- 44:19Robin has gone for good, as Modius will not come back either because Ran
- 44:23had severed him from the Dark One's control, so the Dark One will not
- 44:27be able to bring his soul back to life, so he's gone permanently.
- 44:31And we haven't seen Balall reincarnated yet. I'm not sure if the Law will
- 44:38be reincarnated, maybe revealed later on, But so far, of the original
- 44:45thirteen that had died, Grendel, Demandrad, Mugetian, Massana, and Samarage
- 45:00are the only ones that have yet to been killed and reincarnate and reincarnated.
- 45:08So, uh, I think I've got I think I've rambled up enough.
- 45:13Let's go. Let's go ahead and talk more about the actual story. So
- 45:19in this book, we're finally going to see the We're finally going to see
- 45:24Elaine and Ninive use the weather bowl which they had been sent out in book
- 45:31six to find in Abu Dhar. Yeah and now, and they found it
- 45:37at the end towards the end of book seven. But then book seven ended
- 45:42and I was like, oh, it was such a cliffhanger because the shan
- 45:45Shana attacked and the Ice that I left Abu Dhar just before they attacked to
- 45:52go use the weather bowl. And then the book ended, and I was
- 45:58like son of a witch. But now Robert Jordan didn't leave us hanging as
- 46:04soon as you as soon as I opened this book, the first thing they
- 46:07do is to use the weather bowl. So uh. In the previous book,
- 46:13Elaine and Ninive, we're kind of backed into a corner. We're kind
- 46:15of backed into making a very unfavorable bargain with the fnmere wind Finders. The
- 46:22fn mir are the sea Fulk, a culture of seafaring people. They their
- 46:28entire culture revolves around the sea, shipping, sailing. Uh, that's their
- 46:34entire culture. And wind Finders are channelers who use their power to control the
- 46:38weather. Uh. Their weather weaving was remarked by Dimondrad as being even better
- 46:44than whether we have. The first thing they do is plan is fixed the
- 46:47weather, because that is exactly what they were what they were intending to use
- 46:52the bulav wins for. Uh. So the thing is is that since they
- 46:58know for a fact that the Dark One had locked the world into a singular
- 47:02season, which is like balls hot summer, they know they're going to need
- 47:08a lot of power just to fix the weather, just to break the Dark
- 47:12Ones hold on the world at least, or at the very least the dark
- 47:16Ones hold on the seasons. So they come up they devise a plan to
- 47:22create a link with thirteen channelers. So using thirteen is the very maximum amounts
- 47:30of that a channeler can link themselves with. All right, the channelers can
- 47:35link themselves in a circle with And they came up with a plan to enlist
- 47:40the f Nmer wind Finders to help them, because since the End Mirror are
- 47:45highly skilled a weather working, they're the perfect people to help them use the
- 47:49Bowl of the Winds. The thing is, they got backed into a very
- 47:52unfavorable, unfavorable bargain with the End Mirror when they presented this plan to them.
- 47:59So now in exchange for their help for using the help them use the
- 48:06weather the weather Bowl, the athen Mirror will not only get the weather bowl
- 48:10after they're done using it, because the weather bowl is a significant artifact to
- 48:15their culture. In fact, the weather bowl is where they figured out how
- 48:20to efficiently control the weather from Yeah, so they wanted the The Athenmeyr wanted
- 48:27the weather bowl as part of the bargain. They wanted to keep it.
- 48:31And also they they they wanted to learn the secrets of the ice at Eye.
- 48:38They wanted to learn the more complex weaves, how to properly link with
- 48:45each other, how to open gateways, how to pretty much like the knowledge
- 48:52of the ice ad Eye. They wanted to know. They wanted to learn
- 48:57everything. But the thing is that they want to remain independent of the Isidie
- 49:01their wind finders. They don't want their wind finders to become novices of the
- 49:07White Tower. They would rather keep their independence and not be under the White
- 49:10Tower's thumb. And so part of the bargain is the Isiday will have to
- 49:17send twenty sisters to the FN Mirror, so the sisters can teach the wind
- 49:22finders more complex, more advanced weaves, pretty much learn teach them everything that
- 49:29they would learn as an accepted or as a novice. And also as part
- 49:34of the bargain, the wind finders would be free to come and go from
- 49:37the White Tower as they please. So if there was a specific weave or
- 49:43a specific piece of lore concerning the true source or the power, if they
- 49:51wanted to learn it, they could. They were free to go to the
- 49:52White Tower get the Isidie to teach them, to show them what it like
- 50:00to show them the knowledge, teach them everything they wanted to know, and
- 50:02then once they're done, they could just leave. Like part of it,
- 50:06the bargain basically assured that they can come and go from the tower as much
- 50:10as they wanted without actually having to be novices of the tower. Because without
- 50:16having to become initiates of the tower. Yeah, and this is very unbeaivorable
- 50:21because you know, the iceid I just they don't do that. Like,
- 50:24if you're a channeler and you want to learn from the Isidai, you're going
- 50:28to become an initiative of the Isidye. And that's and that's that because the
- 50:31isid I believe that is the responsibility to train every channeler that they come across.
- 50:39If they're too weak to become an isid Eye, then they either just
- 50:43won't bother or if that channeler doesn't have what it takes to be a fully
- 50:47fledged sister of the i sid Eye, they just they'll make sure that that
- 50:52girl will have everything she needs. They'll make sure that she that she's trained
- 50:58at least enough to where she won't use the power irresponsibly, and then they'll
- 51:02just send her on her way. But the thing is is that the Afa
- 51:07Mirror collectively are a very powerful organization of channelers. The weather working weaves work
- 51:14on a scale much larger than what the isid I are used to using.
- 51:20So uh, that was the unfavorable deal. But still they managed to get
- 51:24the Athamir support and they provided a good number of wind finders to be a
- 51:31part of the link. Elaine and Ninieve also enlisted the help of the Kin,
- 51:38which is a group of channelers that were former runaways or washouts from the
- 51:45Whites Tout. So the thing is, the Kin prided themselves of being a
- 51:51secret They thought they believed that the that the Isidi had no knowledge of them,
- 51:55and they would use their their little organization to help run away from the
- 52:02Tower to get away from the tower and to stay hidden from the Tower.
- 52:07And they would also take in the washouts as well and give them a place
- 52:10in Abu Dhar or anywhere else across the Westlands where they might be needed.
- 52:15The thing is, though the isid I knew about them from the very beginning.
- 52:20In fact that the White Tower's reputation is always being able to find runaways
- 52:28like novices who ran away, who ran away from the Tower is because of
- 52:32the of the Kin, because they knew that the Kin would immediately take in
- 52:36the runaways and send and make sure that they get to Abu Dhar, and
- 52:40so the Isida I would watch out for that. And it's like, okay,
- 52:44so this girl ran away, let's see what the Kin are doing.
- 52:46Okay. They they found her and they're taking her to Abudar. Great,
- 52:51so they'll send a message to whoever, like, whichever Isidize in that area,
- 52:55and so they'll be waiting for that runaway. As soon as they get
- 52:59to the a fully fledged sister will be there waiting for her, and they'll
- 53:05drag her ass back to the White Tower, kicking and screaming if they have
- 53:07to. Now, of course, they don't always catch every runaway. They're
- 53:14among the kinfolk. There are runaways that have been considered runaways for over one
- 53:17hundred years, that ran away over one hundred years ago or even longer.
- 53:24As part of getting convincing the But the thing is that Elaine and nine revealed
- 53:30to the Kin that yes, I knew about them from the get go,
- 53:35but since they are representing the rebel isid Eye from salid Ar, they made
- 53:40a deal with them, saying that if they want. We'll give you all
- 53:45a second chance, and we'll give you the opportunity to become full Isidye again,
- 53:50because some of them were washouts who couldn't complete their either complete the test
- 53:54to become a fully fledged sister or even complete the test to become an accepted
- 54:00So they offered them a second chance. And they even offered the kin members
- 54:05of the Kin who were too weak to become Isidi to at least become part
- 54:09of the White Towers organization. Even if they're not fully sisters, they'll still
- 54:13be given a place in the White Tower. And for many of the kind
- 54:17fault they this was a very lucrative offer for them, because a lot of
- 54:24them really want to be a part of the White Tower. It's just that
- 54:28they didn't think that they had what it took, or they just didn't like
- 54:31the way things were being run in the White Tower. Which I don't blame
- 54:35them, because the Isidi are pretty strict and very harsh in their training of
- 54:39their novices. And also I think it comes down to the Black Azua as
- 54:45well, because since the Black Azure are so deeply ingrained into the White Tower,
- 54:52they make things more complicated. And while the Isida, the Isidie as
- 54:57a whole don't realize that the the Black Asia are doing this. Black Asa
- 55:02are responsible for a lot of the bad ship that happened in the White Tower.
- 55:07In fact, they've orchestrated the assassination of like dozens of ambulance seats yep,
- 55:15which actually revealed Suan revealed to Iguaine that in the secret histories of the
- 55:23White Tower, and particularly the ambulance Seat, there have been quite a number
- 55:28of ambulance seats that would just suddenly die out of nowhere, and she suspects
- 55:35that that was probably due to the Black Asia, like maybe that particular ambulance
- 55:42seat, Like those particular ambulance seats either came close to discovering their existence or
- 55:49they did something that the Black Aja didn't like, so they made sure that
- 55:52they died and another ambulance seat was put in place that they knew would either
- 56:00go along with their plans or wouldn't be a threat to them. So,
- 56:06yeah, there's a lot happening and uh so, picking up right after book
- 56:14seven, Elaine Ninive and Alvienda, who is with them as well, open
- 56:22a gateway to a farm several miles outside of the city of Abu Dhar when
- 56:29when they and their entourage is said, I wind finders and pin go through
- 56:36the portal. At the Enda demonstrates a nice little, a neat little talent
- 56:39of unweaving an active gateway, which typically when you when a nice when a
- 56:47chandler is no longer wants to maintain any kind of weave, they just simply
- 56:53released it and it will fade on its own. But there is a there
- 56:58is another method of unweaving an active weave, which is dangerous because when you
- 57:06do that, it's like you're pulling apart live wires and this can cause the
- 57:09weave to destabilize and explode, or you could burn out in the process,
- 57:17which is basically self severing. And Avianda she revealed that she learned from the
- 57:27wise ones how to properly unweave an active an active weave, and by doing
- 57:34this this will remove any kind of residue left behind by the weave, making
- 57:40it basically making it undetectable, because a weave as powerful as a gateway will
- 57:47leave a residue that another handler can detect, an even reverse engineer. So
- 57:54and Avienda she had a suspicion that somebody maybe the black Ash or some other
- 58:01unfriendly force made try to follow them while they're trying to accomplish a mission,
- 58:08and she didn't want that to happen and want the gateway weave to fall into
- 58:13the wrong hands. So she unweaves the gateway, which freaks out the iceid
- 58:16Eye that are with their group, and the gateway just vanishes rather than just
- 58:23rather than just close close in on itself and disappear like it would when you
- 58:29just release the weave. So this puts off a lot of the ice tod
- 58:34Eye because they're like, don't do that again, because that's very dangerous to
- 58:36do. But you know, she tells them off, tells them like,
- 58:38I know what I'm doing. I was taught how to do it properly by
- 58:44the by the wise ones, and this will help ensure that the gateway that
- 58:50the gateway weave does not fall into the wrong hands. So putting that aside,
- 58:57their group heads to the farm the appear. So the isid I freaks
- 59:00out the other kind folk that are there and they try to run away,
- 59:06but the kin that came with them immediately quickly settle them down and tell them
- 59:12that the isid I have offered them all a place back in the White Tower
- 59:15again, and they just need their help getting this, They just need their
- 59:20help fixing the weather. So Elaine and Ninieve gather the third the remaining thirteen
- 59:27chandlers for their group. This included not only themselves but Avienda, two of
- 59:34the kin folk, and I believe the remainder were all a assortment of wind
- 59:38finders and a few other isid I. And the first thing that they do
- 59:45is part of the bargain. They have to teach the isaid I have to
- 59:50teach the wind finders pretty much anything and everything they know. And the wind
- 59:55finders don't know how to properly link with each other, so I Neive quickly
- 1:00:00demonstrates how to properly link. And before they begin linking, Elaine had actually
- 1:00:08been going through the artifacts that they had found in that store room with the
- 1:00:13bubble of winds, and she had found three different angrient in that in that
- 1:00:17store room. One is like an amber turtle brooch. Another is a like
- 1:00:25four ringed bracelet, so it's like a bracelet with a gem on it,
- 1:00:30and it's connected by these like flat chains that go through like rings. Like
- 1:00:35if you look in the picture, Devin I shared a picture and picture in
- 1:00:42the video it's it's an art front. It's a one of the original cover
- 1:00:47arts for this book. It shows Elaine, Ninive and Alvianda standing around the
- 1:00:52Bowl of the Winds. And if you look at Ninive, she's the woman
- 1:00:57with the long braid going over her left shoulder, wearing a yep ye as
- 1:01:01people one on the far right. If you look on her right hand,
- 1:01:05you can see she's wearing a like an ornamented bracelet with chains leading to these
- 1:01:12connected rings. That's a very powerful angrill. And Elaine gives that to n
- 1:01:15Neve and they she gives the other two arill to one of the wind finders
- 1:01:22and also to Avienda to help increase their power for the use of the bowl
- 1:01:28and II it begins demonstrating to the wind finders how to properly link. He
- 1:01:31describes it as when you want a link with somebody, the link has to
- 1:01:37be consensual. One Chandler can't just reach out and establish the link with somebody
- 1:01:43who's not who's unwilling. So you have to not only be willing, but
- 1:01:47you have to open yourself to the source, kind of like you're about to
- 1:01:51embrace it. But at the very moment before embracing the source. You just
- 1:01:54hold yourself, you hold back, and then it's at that moment that another
- 1:01:59chance aler can reach out and embrace the source through you. It's pretty much
- 1:02:05the same process of embracing the source through an aungry'all, except you're doing it
- 1:02:10through a living person. And also only women can establish links with each other.
- 1:02:16Now they can bring in a male into the link, but the thing
- 1:02:22is is that the woman has to be the one to establish the link,
- 1:02:24because men cannot create links with each other. Yeah, So she demonstrates this
- 1:02:30with Avianna any Lane and she breaks the small link she created with the three,
- 1:02:37and she shows the wind finders how to do it, and she brings
- 1:02:42them all into a fully powered circle. So the maximum amount of candlers that
- 1:02:50can be in one circle is thirteen. Now, of course, if they
- 1:02:54want to add more, they would have to actually link with men that point.
- 1:03:00They can increase the circle from there, but thirteen is the max,
- 1:03:06and they have a full circle thirteen ready to go. And when creating a
- 1:03:10link, the person who established the link with the rest of the channelers can
- 1:03:15actually control of the circle to another person. So there may be thirteen channelers,
- 1:03:20but there's one person that controls the flow of all of all linked chandlers,
- 1:03:27so she should. So after creating the link with everyone, Ninieve skiffs
- 1:03:31the link to one of the wind finders, who is a very demanding woman,
- 1:03:37and she acts like she's a captain of an entire boat. And honestly,
- 1:03:42the wind finders kind of get on my nerves. I think I like
- 1:03:45the eyes side better than them. Either way, this wind finder takes over
- 1:03:52and she immediately begins directing the flow of power into the bowl of winds.
- 1:03:55And as she's doing this, she's leaving the appro create weaves for working the
- 1:04:01weather, and she describes it as basically a domino effect. What she's doing
- 1:04:06is setting things in motion. And while and once the ball's power goes into
- 1:04:13effect, it'll take some time for the weather to correct itself. But what
- 1:04:15they're doing right here and now is basically setting things in motion. So when
- 1:04:21she starts weaving power into the bowl, its subscribed at first as like a
- 1:04:28four point, like a three pointed star, and then it turns into a
- 1:04:30four and then five and increases all the way up past ten points. And
- 1:04:35as she's doing this, as she's weaving into the bowl. The power into
- 1:04:40the bowl, the images inside the bowl begin to change. It goes from
- 1:04:43a clear sunny day to a cloudy day, to a snowy day to a
- 1:04:46rainy days and lightning, and it keeps repeating itself in a cycle. Eventually,
- 1:04:50the power being pulled into the bowl, the power being shifted into the
- 1:04:57bowl hits a critical mass and the ball begins to draw power on its own.
- 1:05:03So the ball draws power from both sided and sidear, so both halfs
- 1:05:09of the source. And once it begins pulling the power into itself, it
- 1:05:14shoots a beam of light into the sky. And when the chandelers look closely
- 1:05:19at the beam, they can see weaves of sidear being coiled around some invisible
- 1:05:26force, which they assume is the male half of the source. And at
- 1:05:30the very end, the beam shoots high into the sky, and at the
- 1:05:35very top it branches out into thousands, if not millions, of individual strands
- 1:05:43that stretch for miles across the sky. If you want a good imagery,
- 1:05:46look up an image of the uh. It's the I forgot what it's called,
- 1:05:54but it's from the enemy attack on Titan. It's from it's in that
- 1:05:58it's that big tree of light uh from the UH. I think it's called
- 1:06:03the Source. It's like a it's the dimension that you're mirror. The first
- 1:06:10Titan exists, and spoiler, it's it's been a year that show. That's
- 1:06:23kind of a new problem because it's already been spoilt. All that that has
- 1:06:26already been spoiled all across social media. So if you're saying, oh,
- 1:06:30spoiler alert, like bitch, it's been spoiled, I will fight you and
- 1:06:35you'll and you'll lose, sir. Anyway, So if you want to go
- 1:06:44to imagery, look that up, because that's the best thing I can describe
- 1:06:46it, because it's a pillar of light and it's very time weaves branch out,
- 1:06:50so it basically kind of looks like one massive tree. And the thing
- 1:06:55is is that while the power being shot into the sky is invisible to non
- 1:06:59channelers, channelers both men and women, can see this pillar of light for
- 1:07:04hundreds of miles around it. And uh Rand had actually sent several of some
- 1:07:13of his forces UH several hundred miles north of where this this event is taking
- 1:07:19place. And the Isidai and his shaman that are a part of the force
- 1:07:25can see the Pillar of Light, and they're freaking out because they don't know
- 1:07:28what the hell is going on. UH. And unfortunately it's not just UH
- 1:07:33their allies and other UH and other good channelers that can see it, but
- 1:07:42it's also enemy channelers that can see it as well, and that includes the
- 1:07:47Soldam and the Demani from the Shan Chakhan. So while they're doing this,
- 1:07:51they don't realize that the Shan Shan have actually started their invasion of Abu Dhar
- 1:07:58oh God. So so there their forces made landfall in Abudar. They basically
- 1:08:04blitz the city because they quickly UH march into the city. The Demane do
- 1:08:11most of the work and make and they wipe out a vast majority of the
- 1:08:15Abu Daran forces. They quickly take control of the city and matt is Ah
- 1:08:24is pinned underneath the collapsed building and that's the last we hear of Matt until
- 1:08:30the next book. And from here UH they also notice the Bowl of wind
- 1:08:38the power coming from the Bowl of winds and they send scouts to the area
- 1:08:42and once the once they finished doing what they're doing, the Pillar of Light
- 1:08:46disappears. But they noticed the channelers all notice that it seems like, uh,
- 1:08:53the inspire area is just statuated with side with sidar. It's like the
- 1:08:59it's like the very errors charged with power. And once they're done, they
- 1:09:03noticed that there was a large flying animal kind of looks like a pterodactyl.
- 1:09:10It's called a rackin the Shan Shan used many different strange creatures and their horses,
- 1:09:16and one of them are these bird like creatures. They're massive that they
- 1:09:20use these creatures for scouting. And on the back of this creature is not
- 1:09:26only the pilot I guess you could say, but also a soldam and a
- 1:09:32demane they lead. They led the tracker to the scout to the farm where
- 1:09:40the event was taking place, and when they see it. When the chandlers
- 1:09:45see the large creature, Elaine and I Neive immediately point out that that is
- 1:09:49a Sean Shan Sean Schan scout and they need to attack it quickly before it
- 1:09:55goes back to report their location. There was more than one, and basically
- 1:10:00this huge group of chandlers all begin shooting a barage of fireballs at it.
- 1:10:05They actually managed to kill one of them, but the other one manages to
- 1:10:09escape and heads back to Abu Dhar, Elainea and I neive are freaking out
- 1:10:15that are like that was a sean Sean, what the fuck are they doing
- 1:10:17here? And that's when they notice that there's fires in the city. There's
- 1:10:25several miles away from it, but they can see like flashes of light and
- 1:10:29lightning uh definitely being created by the Demane and they know for a fact.
- 1:10:34They figure out that the shan Shan have invaded, so they immediately warn the
- 1:10:40rest of the Kin and the other and the wind finders that are with them
- 1:10:44that they need to leave because the Shntan will be sending a large course of
- 1:10:48Demaney and soldam to capture them. They're not going to kill them, They're
- 1:10:51going to capture them and they're gonna put them in collars. And while wind
- 1:10:58finders want to return to their boats, the iceid I quickly convinced them that
- 1:11:02there's no point because at this point their ships have either escaped the bay or
- 1:11:08they have been destroyed, and their wind finders have all been collared or killed
- 1:11:13oh no, So realizing that their only option is to escape with the Kin
- 1:11:19and the isid I, they quickly gather all their supplies and Elaine opens a
- 1:11:25gateway for all the kin isid Eye and wind finders to go through. Her
- 1:11:30gateway opens up into a countryside, into the countryside outside of one of her
- 1:11:35family's manners, so it's she's transporting them all to and Or, which is
- 1:11:42hundreds of miles away. They all go through and she Aveanda and her warder
- 1:11:48Bridget are the last ones to go through. And when they go through,
- 1:11:53Elaine tells the rest of the group to go head towards the manor. He's
- 1:11:59going to inser that this don cheng aren't able to follow them through and make
- 1:12:01sure that they're not able to detect the residue left behind from the gateway,
- 1:12:06and taking an example out of Avianda's book, she begins to unweave the active
- 1:12:13gateway. And the thing is, since she does not have the experience or
- 1:12:17the talent for unweaving UH for unweaving gateways just like Avienda does, when she
- 1:12:24begins to pull apart the individual thread threads from the gateway, they begin to
- 1:12:30spark and act like a live wire, which the UH. Elaine figured what's
- 1:12:39gonna happen. Since she doesn't know how to UH, she has no experience
- 1:12:43in unweaving a weave like that. Uh. She kind of wanted this to
- 1:12:49happen because, for one thing, it'll ensure that the Demane aren't able to
- 1:12:54reverse engineer the gateway weave, but it will also be in the nice little
- 1:13:00a nice little surprise for the shaun Sean when they show up, which they
- 1:13:03do, and upon seeing the open gateway, they immediately try to charge through
- 1:13:09it. Avianda and Brigitte begin firing like. Avianda begins firing a barrage of
- 1:13:16fireballs into the gateway, killing pretty much anything that tries to come through it.
- 1:13:23Bridgett shoots her arrows at any stragglers that try to come through. At
- 1:13:28one point, Avianda tires herself out. She quickly tires herself out because keeping
- 1:13:32up the barrage of like basically like a gatling gun of fireballs shooting shooting at
- 1:13:39once is very exhausting, so she isn't able to keep it up for very
- 1:13:43long. Brigitte begins to pick off any stragglers that come through the gateway.
- 1:13:48By this point, Elaine has pretty much unwoven most of the gateway. The
- 1:13:53only reason why it hasn't exploded or disappeared is because she's holding it together.
- 1:13:57For the most part, but now she's like, all right, we need
- 1:14:00to get the fuck out of here. So they get on their horses,
- 1:14:03or rather Bridget slings her slings her over her horse, and they all ride
- 1:14:10out of the area. The Sean Chuan begin to pour through the gateway,
- 1:14:14including a pair of soldan and demane, and they can see Elaine actively channeling,
- 1:14:20so the soldan commands her demane to shield Elaine, and since Elaine is
- 1:14:26already at the ends of her wits, speaks uh. She's already exhausted from
- 1:14:31her from keeping the gateway open as well as un leaving it. Uh.
- 1:14:35The demane is able to successfully field her. But little did they know,
- 1:14:41Elaine's power was the only thing holding that gateway together. So as soon as
- 1:14:45as the demane shield slams into place arounds Elaine, it cuts off her connection
- 1:14:51to the source and the gateway fully destabilizes and it explodes like a Mother of
- 1:14:59all blonde uh bombs, Mother of all bombs, God blombs, blombs,
- 1:15:04Mother of all blombs. So this creates a massive fireball that incinerates everything within
- 1:15:13a few hundred within a few hundred feets of the feet of the gateway,
- 1:15:18and this is on both sides of the gateway. So this explosion actually terrifies
- 1:15:25the Sean Shan because they're the inspired force that they sent to capture all these
- 1:15:30channelers. They all get wiped out. Elaine, Aveanda, and Burdett almost
- 1:15:35get killed. They get they certainly get knocked on their asses from the explosion,
- 1:15:40but they survive and they make it to the manor where the rest of
- 1:15:45the group is hidden and on back in Edbu Dhar. The Sean Shan investigate
- 1:15:50the explosion site, and while they don't realize that it was caused by a
- 1:15:54destabilized gateway, they believe They come to the conclusion that it's that it may
- 1:16:00be some sort of secret weapon created by the Isida, which should give them
- 1:16:05pause in the in their future conflict with the Isid. Eye. From here,
- 1:16:12Elaine travels with this large group to Camelin, where she immediately kicks out
- 1:16:16all of Rand's forces. So the ail the Saldean forces led by Davrein Bashir
- 1:16:25and pretty much any any non Andoran forces. She kicks them out of the
- 1:16:30city and she says she's and she declares that she's going to begin the process
- 1:16:36of claiming her rightful place on the throne of Camelin, the lion throne of
- 1:16:42Camelin. So this is a it's basically like a presidential race. Even though
- 1:16:48Elaine is the crown, is the daughter heir of Camelin, she that doesn't
- 1:16:57ensure she has the right to the throne. It right to the throne.
- 1:17:01So what she has to do she has to garner support from the other houses
- 1:17:08of Camelin, the nobility throughout and scattered throughout, and or she has to
- 1:17:13gather their support. Unfortunately for her, because of her mother, who even
- 1:17:20though she thinks is dead, is still alive but currently on the run for
- 1:17:26the shaun Chahn as well, her mother had actually broke ties with all of
- 1:17:34her former allies. She ostracized them and basically made it clear she wants something
- 1:17:41to do with her former allies. But it wasn't her fault. She was
- 1:17:44being compelled by Robin when he was still in control of Camelin. But still
- 1:17:49the rest of the nobility don't really well. They know that Lord Gabriel was
- 1:17:55actually the forsaken Robin, still doesn't change the fact that Morgeese had allowed herself
- 1:18:00to become enamored by Robin and she basically burnt bridges with all her former allies.
- 1:18:08So now Elaine is forced to pick up the pieces, the scattered pieces
- 1:18:13that her mother left behind. And it's gonna be hard because she has little
- 1:18:17to no support from the other houses. There's a few houses that do support
- 1:18:21her. There's one particular house that supports her wholeheartedly, but the thing is
- 1:18:27the rest of the major houses of and Or support that person instead. But
- 1:18:34still Elaine has to make her make her case. She has to start begin
- 1:18:43doing things around the city as well as for the rest of and Or.
- 1:18:46You know, basically, promises have to be made. She has to make
- 1:18:50changes. She has to like follow through with her promises, figure out ways
- 1:18:56to increase her resources and increase revenue and taxes all this other political shit,
- 1:19:03and it's really not easy. She also has to navigate other political plots.
- 1:19:10At one point, several like it's not uncommon for during a secession a succession
- 1:19:19race for noble houses to kidnap potential candidates from other noble houses and hold them
- 1:19:27captive until they relinquish their rights to the throne. And at one point,
- 1:19:34Elaine is almost kidnapped by rival houses. They almost kidnap her by poisoning her
- 1:19:42with a type of herb. It's like a fork rout herb. It doesn't
- 1:19:47poison her particularly, it's more of like a very powerful sedative. And what
- 1:19:51makes them very effective is because it also works very effectively on channelers because it
- 1:19:59prevents them from when they're drunk by it. But thankfully, her bodyguards were
- 1:20:05able to stop any attempt. That was able to stop the attempt, and
- 1:20:11she was fine. But pretty much the rest of the book is just her
- 1:20:15trying to pick up the pieces from where her mother of what her mother left
- 1:20:19her, and she's also trying to undo that some of the things that Raan
- 1:20:24had done, because while Ran had good intentions, it's not really the way
- 1:20:29things are run in Kaitlin, and tradition demands that Elaine set things right and
- 1:20:38until she is successfully she until she is successful in taking the lion throne and
- 1:20:45wearing the Rose crown, she's not going to accept any kind of foreign aid.
- 1:20:49So for now, the a Eel are forced to stay outside of the
- 1:20:54city. Davon Bashir's forces have to keep to their camps outside of the city
- 1:20:59as well, and she won't accept their help at all because accepting foreign aid
- 1:21:03is a really bad way to take the throne in and or so from here,
- 1:21:11that's pretty much it we want. That's pretty much it for Elaine's story.
- 1:21:16We're gonna talk a little bit about Parent real fast. So Paren following
- 1:21:24Rand's part of one of Rand's planned plans is quote unquote exiled from from Kyrine
- 1:21:34because publicly Rand and Paren had a falling out and Rand banishes in. But
- 1:21:43it's all really a part of Rand's plan because what Rand wants Paren to do
- 1:21:46now that Ilian has been captured by Ran, he wants Paren to head east
- 1:21:53to Altara Galdian and I believe Mirandi and some part he wants he wants Parent
- 1:22:00to go and seek out the prophet of the Dragon. See up until this
- 1:22:05point, h a character that was introduced in book one and book two,
- 1:22:12a guy named Massema. He had traveled with Wren and his hunt for the
- 1:22:17for the Horn of the Leader, but in book three they had gone their
- 1:22:21separate ways, and while they were the I'm sorry the Saladar, the Saladar
- 1:22:31soldiers that traveled with them were supposed to return to their homeland. Sty didn't
- 1:22:35all make it back, and Massma he had become this religious zealot preaching the
- 1:22:43coming of the Dragon reborn, and he began calling himself the prophet of the
- 1:22:46Dragon. And the think about Mastema is that he is batshit crazy. He
- 1:22:50is completely insane, and he is he he's living in Delul. He thinks
- 1:23:00rand is this divine figure, this prophesized Messiah. I mean, he kind
- 1:23:05of is, but that's beside the point. And he began stirring up a
- 1:23:11lot of trouble in Amadisha al Taa and Mirandi and Galdia, and he started
- 1:23:20getting support from the common people. He started inciting uprisings riots. People who
- 1:23:29follow Massima as the prophet, they themselves become like very zealous in their beliefs
- 1:23:35and the Dragon reborn. They began raiding the countryside. They start riots in
- 1:23:44some of the major cities, and while the military forces of these countries try
- 1:23:50to suppress them, they're very largely unsuccessful because there's a lot a lot of
- 1:23:55them are just common people, and well there's more common people than there are
- 1:23:59soldiers. And since these people are religious zealous, pretty much, they have
- 1:24:04little to no regard for their own life, for their own safety, so
- 1:24:09they fight with that same kind of religious fever. So they're very difficult to
- 1:24:14deal with. And Rn became aware of mis Semma's actions, and he became
- 1:24:24aware of his actions, and he wanted Paren to go east and track down
- 1:24:29miss Sema and try to get him, to try to get him under control.
- 1:24:35So that's what Parent ends up doing. He spent h he spends his
- 1:24:40time tracking down mi Sema and he does eventually find him, but he doesn't
- 1:24:46really get far with him. He talks to Missema for a bit and Massema
- 1:24:55he realizes, oh yeah, miss Semma's this dude, this fool is crazy.
- 1:25:00M mm hmm yeah. Uh. Not much else happens with him.
- 1:25:05There's more that happens in book nine, but it's kind of really like more
- 1:25:10focused on Rand and Elaine. The next couple of books ran in Elaine and
- 1:25:15then in the next book, Matt becomes a part of the huge focus.
- 1:25:18So he's alive, but he doesn't have that much of a big role in
- 1:25:23the next book aside from those the other two. And we're gonna let's go
- 1:25:31ahead and talk about Rand. Okay, So the thing is is that Rand
- 1:25:38is now the king of Ilian. Uh. He accepted the Laurel Crown,
- 1:25:44which Ran now calls the Crown of Swords, and he's working hard to secure
- 1:25:49his secure as hold on Ilien. Uh. He of course begins enforcing his
- 1:25:57own laws that he set up in Tier and Uh. He begins moving his
- 1:26:01forces around and he's preparing for his next confrontation and it's not with the Forsaken,
- 1:26:09but it's with the shan Chahan. Because now Rand is aware that the
- 1:26:14shan Chan have not only invaded ten Chico but has also not only invaded Ten
- 1:26:20Chico and Amaditia, but is also taken over at Udar. And this is
- 1:26:26concerning for Yeah, this is concerning for Rand because he doesn't yet know that
- 1:26:30Elaine has already escaped, but he thinks, but he knows that the shan
- 1:26:34Chan are a big threat, especially with their especially with their force of enslaved
- 1:26:42channelers. But Rand has a planned. Rand has a plan. But either
- 1:26:48way, Rand spends a good portion of his time in Ilian preparing his forces,
- 1:26:54getting everything ready. He sends his forces an Ilien to their to the
- 1:26:59eastern border to begin securing it and keeping it ready in case the Sean Chean
- 1:27:03decides to make them their move west. Because right now the best. Since
- 1:27:09the shan Chan have a very powerful navy, Uh, they're going to be
- 1:27:13focusing a lot of their attention on coastal countries. So right now, the
- 1:27:17next two countries that is on their on their list would be Ilian and eventually
- 1:27:24Tier. So Rand begins preparing Ilian. After a while, he decides to
- 1:27:30go back to Kyrine because he feels that his plans in Ilien have been set
- 1:27:35in motion. He's gotten everything ready, so now he needs to go take
- 1:27:39care of other matters back in Kyrine. Uh. He goes to Kyrine and
- 1:27:45uh see throughout this U throughout Rand's story in this book, Ran is beginning
- 1:27:49to suffer the more adverse physical effects of the corrupted males half the Source.
- 1:27:57So before Rand would experiences when whenever he'd embrace Sidon Uh Ran could sit can
- 1:28:06sense the pure, life giving power of Sidan, but he could also feel
- 1:28:14that the corruption that has tainted the Source. All right, So the way
- 1:28:19it's described is Sidan is like a vast ocean of power. While it itself
- 1:28:26remains pure, the taint is like a thin layer of oil sitting on the
- 1:28:31very top of the ocean. And in order to reach in order to touch
- 1:28:35Sidan, you have to touch the taint as well. You have to like
- 1:28:39you have to like go through the taint to reach the pure energy of Sidan.
- 1:28:44And so whenever Ran would embrace the Source, he's not only drawing in
- 1:28:47the power of the male half of the through sores, but he's also pulling
- 1:28:51in that taint as well. And before he just felt like he just left
- 1:28:57him with this sense of uncleanliness and just like ick, just ick, and
- 1:29:08here in there he'll experience like isolated waves of dizzeyness and nausea. But now
- 1:29:14throughout this book, anytime he embraces the Source, he is experiencing extreme bouts
- 1:29:18of vertigo, dizziness, and extreme nausea. In fact, it has gotten
- 1:29:27to the point where Ren has to embrace the source well before he actually needs
- 1:29:30to use it, so that way he can fight through that extreme wave of
- 1:29:35dizziest, dizzeyness and nausea. And he goes back to King Win because he
- 1:29:44needs he needs to try to convince a particular isid I to join his team,
- 1:29:49and that isid I is kat Swain. Eligrin kat Swain was introduced in
- 1:29:54the previous book and the thing is Katswayne has for the most part, refused
- 1:30:00used to work with him. She came to Well, she came to Cameln
- 1:30:03I'm sorry to Kyrie too to join him. But she's basically playing hard to
- 1:30:11get because Wren made a very bad impression on her, and she also realized
- 1:30:15that she's not going to get anywhere with him because after the events of dom
- 1:30:19as Well, Ran really doesn't trust the Eyes Tod Eye, because you know
- 1:30:25that kind of happens when you get stuffed into a box and tortured on a
- 1:30:28daily basis. So she has to kind of work. She has to kind
- 1:30:33of find a way to not only get him to trust her, but she
- 1:30:39also is trying to get she's also working to get him to respect her.
- 1:30:44So she's she's going to eventually help him, but he's going to learn how
- 1:30:47to he's going to learn how to mind his manners around her, and he's
- 1:30:51going to need to learn how to play nice as well. So he's trying
- 1:30:57to convince her. He's also beginning to make plans to cleanse the Source because
- 1:31:04he knows that he's running out of time. He's at this point he's been
- 1:31:11channeling almost NonStop for two years now, and the last false dragon that went
- 1:31:18mad, Logan Ablar, lasted two years before he went completely insane. So
- 1:31:29Wren knows he's running out of time. So he is, it's hinting it
- 1:31:34here and here and there. What he's planning on doing. He's going to
- 1:31:40he is preparing for a confrontation with the Shan Shan, and he's also preparing
- 1:31:51He's also preparing to cleanse the source from the tank. And the way he's
- 1:31:59going to do that is he's going to use a pair of ron gril called
- 1:32:03access keys. These access keys will allow him to tap in to the most
- 1:32:09powerful so agri al ever created in the Age of Legends, the Children Call
- 1:32:15Now. I talked about the Children Call a little bit in the last couple
- 1:32:16of episodes, especially in episode four and episode seven, because these sore all
- 1:32:24are so powerful that Lanfear said that with them, you could challenge the creator
- 1:32:30himself like it is you can channel with them, You're able to channel in
- 1:32:34on godly amounts of power. And there's two of them, one for men
- 1:32:40and one for women. All right, And spoiler alert, rand will not
- 1:32:46cleanse its will not cleanse the taint from side and unsold book nine, that
- 1:32:50is actually the climac that will be a part of the climax of the book.
- 1:32:58But he begins his preparation here. He actually has he actually hid the
- 1:33:02access keys in Rudian. So he went back to Rudian and he got them
- 1:33:06and he has them on his person now. And he's also navigating so aside
- 1:33:12from that, he's also navigating potential plots of portrayal, and he suspects that
- 1:33:17this portrayal may come from his own a shaman, from his own a shaman,
- 1:33:25because he's beginning to notice that Magen Taym has sort of made himself into
- 1:33:32this like influential leader among the ashaman. In fact, now Tayim calls himself
- 1:33:40the Mahel, so and the ones who call him the shaman who called him
- 1:33:45the mahel. These guys, in particular, are the ones who were trained
- 1:33:50personally by there were given special lessons by Tayim, and they're the ones that
- 1:33:58call him the mahel a lot more respectfully and a lot more fervently. So
- 1:34:04Rand has to deal with that because he's not entirely sure if he can trust
- 1:34:11Hyen, and now he's starting to suspect he can't really trust his own a
- 1:34:15shaman as well, but he has other things to focus on. When he
- 1:34:18returns to Camln, he is confronted by his honor guard, the Phardaiasmai.
- 1:34:27The maidens of the Spear think about the thing is is that, like,
- 1:34:31I'm disappointed in Ran because Rand has a very strong aversion to putting women in
- 1:34:38harm's way. In fact, the way this comes from his very conservative upbringing
- 1:34:46because since he was raised in the Two Rivers Two Rivers men are raised to
- 1:34:56well, for one thing, considered women as weaker cool while not that's not
- 1:35:02really like more, that's not really an actual belief that they're raised with,
- 1:35:09but it's more of like they're raised to belief that women need to be protected
- 1:35:15and uh. While Two River society is technically maj priarical, they have they're
- 1:35:24raised with a certain deference to women in general. So they have so Two
- 1:35:30Rivers men have a very strong aversion to uh raising their raising a hand against
- 1:35:34women and wanting to protect women at all costs. While on some levels that
- 1:35:42is noble, but in this case it's detrimental because he's dealing with an entire
- 1:35:46warrior society of Spear of Spear maidens, okay, And the thing is is
- 1:35:54that Rant has routinely kept them out of the fight even though they carry his
- 1:36:00honor. They are his personal bodyguard, his honor guard. They want to
- 1:36:05be where the fight is, so wherever wherever Rand is, wherever the fight
- 1:36:10is going to be and Rand, if Rand's going to be there, then
- 1:36:12so are they right? But in books set book seven, at the in
- 1:36:18the climactic fight with semil, Rand led a small force of fashiers uh Saldean
- 1:36:28uh horse riders and a small force and a small group of a shaman against
- 1:36:32Samiel. But he left his spear maidens behind, and well they were pissed,
- 1:36:42to say the least. In fact, they were. The thing is
- 1:36:45that uh spirit the Iel in general follow a very strict honor code called get
- 1:36:51toe and uh sleight that you oh what is the you o hoe, which
- 1:37:00is like you're it's like a like pennants kind of like you like you uh
- 1:37:09slighted their honor. So now you gotta face the consequences. That is the
- 1:37:14consequences is toe and uh so when he came back to Kyrine, his all
- 1:37:20his spear maidens kind of just like they showed up at his room and they
- 1:37:27were just giving him the just they were just mad dogging the funk out of
- 1:37:30him. They were just all starting like like you sung him a bitch,
- 1:37:36And they ended up drawing. Uh, they ended up drawing lots and three
- 1:37:44of them, Uh, the three that drew the uh that drew the I
- 1:37:51guess the short straw. Mm hmmm. Uh. They went into his room
- 1:37:57and they beat the fuck out of brand Yeah. Oh my god, they
- 1:38:02beat the out of him. Mm hmmm. They beat the fuck out of
- 1:38:05him. Now mind, they didn't leave him, and they didn't leave him
- 1:38:09a bloody mess. They just you know, they they whooped his ass.
- 1:38:12They gave him a good old ass whooping to make to get the message across.
- 1:38:15They told him, They told him, you dishonor us by leaving us
- 1:38:19behind. You promised that you wouldn't leave us behind and that you would not
- 1:38:24keep us out of the fight. And what did you do. You kept
- 1:38:28us out of the fight, and you almost died. We're supposed to we're
- 1:38:31the ones that are supposed to carry your honor, and yet you dishonor us
- 1:38:34by keeping us out of the fight. Make sure this never happens again,
- 1:38:40and they just walked out, Mike walked and so he's kind of he's kind
- 1:38:45of on their ship list. And the only way he can get out of
- 1:38:48it is like, next time there's a big battle, they're gonna have to
- 1:38:53be a part of it. But I'm sure that they're gonna be a part
- 1:38:57of it. And like is still reluctant to include them in any fights because
- 1:39:02he just doesn't want to get women involved in the fight. He doesn't want
- 1:39:05to allow women to get hurt on his behalf. But the thing is,
- 1:39:09rand, my guy, they're a society of warrior women's. Okay, they
- 1:39:17can fight better than any other man that you know, all right, they
- 1:39:21just woke your ass the fuck exactly. Okay, they're like I have to
- 1:39:36say, I have to say they are. They're better than the Dorama Lage
- 1:39:42the Door. Okay, look, the Dora are fantastic fighters. Okay,
- 1:39:47I'm not denying that. Okay, but here's the thing. The Dormalage at
- 1:39:54the end of the day are basically like they're like a trophy guard. They're
- 1:40:00very, they're very, they're poofed up. They they live the high life.
- 1:40:04They don't really they live they don't really live a harsh life, and
- 1:40:08yeah, their training is phenomenal. I'm not saying they're bad fighters, okay,
- 1:40:13but what I am saying is that unlike the spear Maidens, who are
- 1:40:17raised in a hostile and very harsh environment and they're trained from a very young
- 1:40:24age on how to fight. Okay, I'd say the only edge that the
- 1:40:29Door of Malaga would have against the spear Maidens is the fact that they have
- 1:40:31vibranium weapons and murmur. That's fair, that's fair, so so if so.
- 1:40:38Like. The thing is is that the spear Maidens, just like the
- 1:40:41rest of the il warrior societies, they are only armed with a horn,
- 1:40:50bow and arrow, three short spears, three or four short spear spears,
- 1:40:56and a high buckler mm hmm. That as the standard uh. Those are
- 1:41:01the standard issue weapons that they all carry. They don't carry any other kind
- 1:41:05of weapon besides like a like a long knife that they keep with them.
- 1:41:11So like spears, hide buckler, and a bow and arrow and a long
- 1:41:17knife. That is it. They don't carry swords, they don't carry large
- 1:41:24spears, or they don't carry long spears or halberds and these weapons. They
- 1:41:32are so proficient and highly skilled with these weapons that they have defeated pretty much
- 1:41:38any nation they've gone across, they've gone up against damn. So I mean,
- 1:41:45you know, I'm pretty sure if the Dormalage they had a large enough
- 1:41:48if a good sized force of borland Lage went up against the Uh, against
- 1:41:55the spear Maidens, I'd say it would be a I'll say it would be
- 1:41:58a pretty even fight if not, like if not. The thing about the
- 1:42:05Dormalage is that they're not a very large military force. They're just so uh.
- 1:42:15If a small group of them went up against a small group of the
- 1:42:19spear Maidens, I'm sure they would probably have the edge because of their vibranium
- 1:42:23weapons. But if their entire, if the entire Dormalage force went up against
- 1:42:28the Ill Spirit spear Maidens, like a large squadron of them, because like
- 1:42:34there's tens of thousands of spear Maidens, the spear Maidens would probably overwhelm them.
- 1:42:40Okay, Okay, the equivalent would probably be like what the warrior women
- 1:42:45from the Amazons, Yeah, pretty much Wonder Woman. Yeah. The thing
- 1:42:54about the The thing about the Amazons is that they all have super strength,
- 1:42:59maybe not on the same level as uh, like Wonder Woman, because Wonder
- 1:43:03Woman is a demigod, so she has got like strength the Amazons. I
- 1:43:08was like doing some research and I found one thread that talks about the Amazons
- 1:43:12being about as strong as Captain America, so peak physical strength. Yeah,
- 1:43:17so as strong as a human can get, which is pretty strong. I'm
- 1:43:21not gonna lie, that's pretty strong. Uh So I'm pretty sure the Amazons
- 1:43:29would definitely have uh an edge over the iel for in terms of physical strength.
- 1:43:34But uh, the Ayell are just they're just bass warriors, all right.
- 1:43:42A small like a small force of like maybe a couple hundred iyel is
- 1:43:45more than enough to take on thousands of sold an entire force of maybe like
- 1:43:49five thousand soldiers. Damn. Yeah, that's some bad bitches they are.
- 1:43:57And they don't and they don't even carry like have weapons or armor. Like
- 1:44:01in fact, they don't even wear armor. They wear uh what is called
- 1:44:08a cotton sword, which is like it's just basically desert guard. It's like,
- 1:44:14uh, I guess like the closest thing. It's not like it's not
- 1:44:19even like you know, flowy billowy robes or anything like that. It's actually
- 1:44:23form fitting where it's like it's typically desert colors. But when they came over
- 1:44:28the uh uh, when they came over the dragon Wall and into the west
- 1:44:32Lands, they began adopting the more they began wearing colors with their kind of
- 1:44:38sword to better blend into the environment, So more greens and browns and hell,
- 1:44:44when they when winters finally begins to come in full swing after the weather
- 1:44:48bowl is used, they start wearing more white colors to blend in with the
- 1:44:53snow. And they're stupidly stealthy too, like they you could walk in you
- 1:44:59can walk through a field like you could walk They could like all be hiding
- 1:45:02in a field and you can walk right past and wouldn't realize they're there.
- 1:45:09And so yeah, the Ael are badass. And Ran needs to be careful
- 1:45:13because even though they follow him because they know because he is their Carot Parn,
- 1:45:20their version of the Dragon reborn, he needs to get it. He
- 1:45:26needs to like get it through a sixth skull. That Ael society doesn't coddle
- 1:45:32their women. In fact, they're just as like they will train their women
- 1:45:35just as let just as much as they'll train their men. So he's got
- 1:45:43to be careful because if the spear maidens are going to continue fighting for him.
- 1:45:46He needs to start using them. Yeah, exactly. But anyway,
- 1:45:54after navigating the political the political field of Kyrie and having some dealings with uh
- 1:46:04Katswain, he's not one successful and convincing Kat'swayne to join him, she still
- 1:46:12wants him to show her more difference in respect he is. He figures he's
- 1:46:18gonna if he's gonna get her on his side, he needs to let her
- 1:46:21come to him, and kind of vice versa. She figures that, uh,
- 1:46:27she needs him to come to him, come to her. Uh.
- 1:46:30So like it's like a game. It's like a game of Paton Mouse.
- 1:46:34They're gonna eventually they're eventually going to team up uh and Katswain will eventually become
- 1:46:41his advisor. But that's not gonna happen until book nine. But a little
- 1:46:45side note about Katswain uh, and a little side note about the iel Wise
- 1:46:49Ones. So, as it turns out, part of their training is the
- 1:46:55main purpose of iel Wise Ones isn't just to be you know, wise and
- 1:47:00the advisor for clan chiefs and different steps and society leaders. They're also preserving
- 1:47:06lost knowledge as well. So the Wise Ones now it doesn't. I don't
- 1:47:14really know. They haven't really spoke much about the secrets that the Wise Ones
- 1:47:18are preserving. But the oldest of the wise Ones really a decrepit old hag
- 1:47:24named Cerrillia. She when Katswayne was introduced, men commented that it would be
- 1:47:30god just imagine if Katswayne met Cerrialia, because those two are both old,
- 1:47:35frosty and very strong willed. Yeah so, I mean, Sorellia is like
- 1:47:42six almost six hundred years old, and kats Wayne is like pushing three hundreds.
- 1:47:47So while Ausralia is quite so Whilestralia is twice kats Wwayne's age, they
- 1:47:53both have pretty much the same level of experience, and you know, they
- 1:47:59have those very strong personalities, and yeah, therefore they're both forced to be
- 1:48:05reckoned with. Ah. So, Sorellia had had gotten when of this mysterious
- 1:48:14isid eye that doesn't serve rand quite yet and isn't and she learns that Katswayne
- 1:48:21isn't really working with the White Tower, at least not in the capacity that
- 1:48:26the ones who kidnapp Ran were. Uh So, after learning a bit more
- 1:48:30about Katswain, Sorellia approaches her and makes a proposition with her that they would
- 1:48:38both do whatever it's tough to ensure that rand Is stays alive long enough to
- 1:48:43fulfill his end of the prophecy, because they were both as both as the
- 1:48:47Dragon to be born and as the Cara corn and one, and the two
- 1:48:55of them do come to an understanding, and as part of that understanding,
- 1:49:00decides to teach kad Swain how to travel. So, as it turns out,
- 1:49:06Sorellia knows how to travel. The thing is that she's very weak in
- 1:49:12the powers, but she's not strong enough to open up the gateway, but
- 1:49:15she knows the waves, and she actually shares the weave with kad Swain.
- 1:49:21See at this point, kad Swain and the Isidai that are with her in
- 1:49:26Kyrine, that includes the prisoners and the prisoners from the White Tower and the
- 1:49:31more or less willing unwilling servants from the rebel group. They've been so far
- 1:49:40detached from what's going on. They're so far detached from the rebel Isidai at
- 1:49:45this point that they don't know that the rebels can travel because Igwayne had figured
- 1:49:50out how to travel, and she's shared that weave with the rest of the
- 1:49:55rebels, but these guys, their group doesn't know how to travel yet,
- 1:49:59but it does, so she ends up sharing the travel we've with kat Swain
- 1:50:06and teaches her how to properly travel, as well as how to skim,
- 1:50:13because with traveling, if you don't know that, if you're not familiar with
- 1:50:15the with your point of origin, you can't succeed. You can't really travel.
- 1:50:21So skimming allows you to travel, but it's more of like you enter
- 1:50:26a void. After dealing with some bullshit in firing, Rand goes to He
- 1:50:34doesn't He doesn't go to Camlin because since Elaine is there, he decides to
- 1:50:44leave her alone, let her do her thing and get you know, get
- 1:50:49secure her place in the throne. Because the thing is, Rand has convinced
- 1:50:53himself that Elaine really doesn't want anything to do with him, because earlier on
- 1:50:58in the series she wrote him some letters. There's one proclaiming her love and
- 1:51:00one and the other basically telling him that you know, they can't be they're
- 1:51:05from two separate worlds, blah blah blah. So he's like, you know,
- 1:51:09it's better this way. I can't be with her, even though he
- 1:51:12loves her all right, it's better off that they remain separate because he's destined
- 1:51:18to die and lead and lead his and lead the world against the Dark One
- 1:51:25and Timmer guidance. So you know, he can't really give her much of
- 1:51:28a future, yea, even though she moons over him just as much as
- 1:51:32he does her. But right now he's he's enjoying his little fling with men.
- 1:51:39The thing is Rn is kind of giving is getting himself into a bit
- 1:51:43of his dicky mess because he's falling for three different women at the same time,
- 1:51:50men, Avianda, and Elaine, and he's slept with two of them.
- 1:51:56So yeah, things are getting but I promise you guys, it's it's
- 1:52:05not going to be that loved. It's not gonna be that love primegal outcome
- 1:52:10from the Witcher three for those time. Yeah, if you know, you
- 1:52:14know, uh, things actually kind of work things actually, uh they weirdly
- 1:52:20work out for Rand in the end. Oh So, so, for those
- 1:52:28of you who have been questioning this book, because this book is I won't
- 1:52:33lie. This book is a product of its time. It was written over
- 1:52:35thirty years ago, and it was you know, these books were written throughout
- 1:52:41the nineties, in the early two thousands, Yeah, early to mid two
- 1:52:45thousands. And you know, of course, back in those days it wasn't
- 1:52:48exactly woke or inclusive to the elgibity and other h and other you know,
- 1:52:58non traditional relationships and romances. But I'll just spoil it for you, guys.
- 1:53:06Ran gets into a quadruple, a quadruple with yep, with Avienda,
- 1:53:15Elaine and min H. He basically, like I think, he actually does
- 1:53:24marry them, though at this point he hasn't at least where I'm at in
- 1:53:29book ten, he hasn't married them, but he actually knocks up Elaine and
- 1:53:36maybe they and the three of them. Elaine weaves a waters bond with with
- 1:53:47Rands, but this bond also includes uh Min and Avianda, so they're all
- 1:53:54bonded to him much the same way as an eyes eye would bond to a
- 1:53:59warder. Uh And it's all consensual, it's not like he's leading all three
- 1:54:06of them on. He admits to the three of them at the same like
- 1:54:09they're all together. They all get together and he admits to the three,
- 1:54:11admits to three of them that, uh, yes, I'm in love with
- 1:54:16all three of you, and I know, I know, I am a
- 1:54:18total bastard because of it, and I would understand if you want nothing to
- 1:54:23do with me. And then the three of them surprised the fuck out of
- 1:54:25him and say, uh, we're cool with that, and we want and
- 1:54:30we all want to be with you. Mm hmmmm, And Elaine points out
- 1:54:35that so by this point, everyone in this room but me has slept with
- 1:54:43you. So I think it's time for you. I think it's time for
- 1:54:45you to, you know, give me a turn. Spoiler spoilers from book
- 1:54:56nine. Ooh, ooh, anyway, but anyway, but that doesn't happen
- 1:55:04in this book, and I spoiled it ahead of time just to give y'all
- 1:55:08a little, you know something about something to roll over. But anyway,
- 1:55:16Rand decides it's time to confront the Shan Shan and he knows that the shan
- 1:55:23Chan. The reason why the Sean Jean are so effective in warfare is because
- 1:55:28of the Demane. No other force in the West Land have been able to
- 1:55:31take them on because of the Demane. Because they have the power at their
- 1:55:36disposal, they're able to easily overwhelm their their opponents, and that's why they've
- 1:55:44been so successful in conquering Abu Dhar a Meditia Tarabah and even fall. So
- 1:55:56Rand Uh, this is where see I think this is this may have something
- 1:56:01to do with the madness Rand's kind of got. Rand's confidence got a little
- 1:56:09ahead of him, and he decides to lead a small force of his of
- 1:56:17his small force of like Tyrens, Kyrine, kyne Ins and Saldeans against like
- 1:56:30about I'd say about five thousand and five six thousand soldiers against the shan Chan
- 1:56:35who have, like the shan Shan had set up outposts all across Altara,
- 1:56:41which is the country that Abudar is in. And in total he sent his
- 1:56:46forces against about fifteen thousand shan Shan forces, and there was a good like
- 1:56:55maybe like I think there was probably about several dozen Suldan demane pairs out there.
- 1:57:06Didn't really say the exact number, but he gathered he went to Rand
- 1:57:13gathers his army, and then he also goes to the Black Tower, which
- 1:57:16is where the a shaman are being trained by Tayim, and he gathers about
- 1:57:21fifty of his of his best as shaman that Tam was able to scrounge up,
- 1:57:30takes them all to Altera and he leads them on a he leads them
- 1:57:34on an advance against the Shan Khan. He carefully divides his forces and for
- 1:57:41the most part, the shaman do all do a lot of the work,
- 1:57:45and they actually do a really great job in fighting this the Shan Khan.
- 1:57:53In fact, like when he before he led his hitch charge against Sean Khan,
- 1:57:57he sent several a Shaman scouts uh a shaman to scout the area,
- 1:58:02finds the where then Shan outposts are trying to get a good idea of their
- 1:58:09forces, and they're where they are, where the positions are, and several
- 1:58:13of the Shan several of is a shaman actually came across Shan Shan patrols and
- 1:58:19a single as shaman wiped out like like over two hundred uh Sean Shan soldiers.
- 1:58:28And in that group there were several demany so he was able to wipe
- 1:58:32up that one shaman was able to wipe out that entire patrol. So that
- 1:58:40gives you an idea of how effective these shaman are. And uh so Ran
- 1:58:45manages to lead them against the Shan Shan pushed and he manages to push them
- 1:58:51pretty much almost all the way back to that we are and the thing is,
- 1:58:57though, Rands, even though like that Hier and his other and Rand's
- 1:59:01other commanders, they advised Rand that they're getting to a point where their fourths
- 1:59:06are getting too thin. They only brought about six thousand soldiers against this fifteen
- 1:59:11an army of fifteen thousand, not to mention the Demane. They're starting to
- 1:59:15become. They're starting to thin out. They need to do at this point,
- 1:59:18they need to take their wins and call it a day and regroup.
- 1:59:27But Rands himself, he's he's getting way too overconfident here. He says,
- 1:59:33no, they need to continue on, though, Bashir and Warrenson that there's
- 1:59:42a good, good sized forced with fifteen thousand sewn shan waiting for them,
- 1:59:45even with their a shaman, because they at this point he had lost maybe
- 1:59:49about almost ten of is a shaman in the fight. Well, granted the
- 1:59:56shaman had managed to wipe out thousands of Sean Chin shoulders Dean's soldiers. That's
- 2:00:04that is such a mouthful and as well as either kill or capture soldam in
- 2:00:13DEMONI pairs. Uh. The thing is that they learned pretty quickly not to
- 2:00:17uncollar the demane right away because many of the Demane have been so thoroughly brainwashed
- 2:00:24that a couple of times that they tried to uh unfollow the demany they captured,
- 2:00:30the Demani began lashing out in fear, saying like no, don't follow
- 2:00:34me. They would freak out and started attacking indiscriminately. Uh So they were
- 2:00:40forced to like collar them again and keep them on their leash until they can
- 2:00:44rehabilitate them. And in fact, uh that one Demani mentioned earlier, Olivia,
- 2:00:50was one of the ones that they captured in this uh in their uh
- 2:00:55in their campaign. So they actually captured maybe about a dozen demane. Well,
- 2:01:02actually no, they captured five successfully. The rest they had to kill
- 2:01:09because they were too combative, like soldam would rather die than be captured,
- 2:01:14and the demane are well y are very conditioned into the same mentality. And
- 2:01:20also if you kill soldam while she's wearing the bracelet, the Demani will suffer
- 2:01:28the same pain like the shock of feeling the soldam die will kill the demane
- 2:01:32tower. So they had to be careful, and they were successful in capturing
- 2:01:40about five Soldam Domini pairs and Rant ends up sending them to Camlin. Uh
- 2:01:46So that way Elaine and her and the iceide with her can try to rehabilitate
- 2:01:53them. So but that's not until later when they reached the point that Shier
- 2:02:00is advising Ran to withdraw and take their winds. Rand says hell Nah and
- 2:02:06see Ran had been carrying around a long cloth wrapped object up until this point,
- 2:02:14and he says, he tells be Shier, no, I am more
- 2:02:18than powerful enough to destroy the Shanzan. And he unwraps the object and pulls
- 2:02:25out Kealandor, the sword that cannot be wielded and one of the most powerful
- 2:02:31so ungry all created at the end of the Age of Legends. Last time
- 2:02:35we saw Klandor was in book four, when Ran left it in the Stone
- 2:02:41of Tyr because at the time he believed he was not ready to hold and
- 2:02:46control the power of Coleandor, so he plunged it into the into the heart
- 2:02:55of the stone Tier and set Uh and sets some wraps around it to prevent
- 2:03:00anyone from trying to steal it. But when he decided to go against the
- 2:03:05Sean Shan, he sent one of his a shaman, one of the shaman
- 2:03:10that he knew he could thrust to Tier to undo the traps and to retrieve
- 2:03:15Klandor for him. So Ran, taking Colandor in hand, he begins channeling
- 2:03:18through it, and with the massive amount of energy that Colandor gives him,
- 2:03:24he unleashes an onslaught of lightning of like a huge barrage of lightning into the
- 2:03:32surrounding Seanchan forces, and he does wipe out a massive portion of therefore of
- 2:03:39the Chantan's forces. The thing is is that Ran wasn't being careful with his
- 2:03:44weave, and the lightning also began hitting some of his own forces, and
- 2:03:50Vasher ends up tackling him to the ground and begs him, please stop,
- 2:03:56you're killing us Two and Ran, a bat like horrory, stops channeling and
- 2:04:00he orders a retreat and Rand takes this as a loss. But Little Lizzie
- 2:04:08realized that the commanders of the opposing shan Shan forces all go running back to
- 2:04:14Agudar with the tail with their tails between their legs, saying like this was
- 2:04:18the greatest defeat that the shan Chan have ever faced. The only the only
- 2:04:25thing that comes close to this defeat was their defeat at Fall, which both
- 2:04:30times involves Ran. Who so they go, So they go back tails between
- 2:04:38their legs to report their loss to the high Lord Surof, and Rand goes
- 2:04:44back to Kyrene and he's he's really reconsidering a lot of his choices and he's
- 2:04:50realizing that he's slowly losing his country. He's losing his composure, and he's
- 2:04:58losing control because he really got out of hand back there. So he decides
- 2:05:02that the time it's getting, the time has come that he needs to start
- 2:05:08accelerating his plans to cleanse the taint from Sighting. And but before he can
- 2:05:15even consider that, Ran is attacked by three of his shaman uh. So
- 2:05:26these a shatman begin going from a rampage through the sun Palace. Ran manages
- 2:05:30to avoid them, and a little as you know, one of these a
- 2:05:34shotmen, a guy calling himself Da Shiva, is actually Astingar the reincarnation of
- 2:05:43agonorm Uh. They attack him and they recavoc in the castle. He avoids
- 2:05:48them, and he wait. He also tries to avoid as many of his
- 2:05:55spear maidens as possible because he doesn't want to involve him in this fight.
- 2:05:59And I can't blame him. This is a fight between channelers, and his
- 2:06:02spear maidens aren't going to be able to do much against them, so he
- 2:06:06manages to corner the three of them and he attacks them. He doesn't manage
- 2:06:11to kill them, and they don't manage to kill him, but they do
- 2:06:14cause a lot of damage in the in the palace itself. The thing is
- 2:06:17this causes in the aftermath of this fight, a lot of rumors begin to
- 2:06:23spread throughout Tiring that Rand has lost his mind and has succumbed to the madness.
- 2:06:30Now Rant doesn't exactly doesn't do anything to dissuade these rumors. Instead,
- 2:06:38he sets one of his most loyal Kyene and nobles as the as a steward
- 2:06:48over Kyrine. He leaves him in charge, and he goes to Tears,
- 2:06:53sets one of the Tyerne high lords, Yeah, one of the Tyne high
- 2:06:58lords as a steward over tyr and he goes to Ilian and sets the steward
- 2:07:02of Ilian. And after ensuring everything is set in place, he alongside men
- 2:07:12travel by gateway to somewhere north of I believe it was Tarblan, but in
- 2:07:23reality it's revealed later on that he's actually going somewhere else entirely. But when
- 2:07:31he gets there with men, Min asks him so what's the plan. Why
- 2:07:36all the secrecy, why all the cloak and dagger? Right, why let
- 2:07:42the people believe that you're dead or worst has gone mad? He says,
- 2:07:47well, there are traders in my forces and I need to deal with them.
- 2:07:51But ultimately I'm going to cleanse Sidon and that's where book eight ends.
- 2:08:00Oh the tea mm hmmm. I have to say I was when I started
- 2:08:05reading book nine. I was like, yes, I've been waiting for this
- 2:08:11because I spoiled it for myself. I was like, I was really curious
- 2:08:15because for pretty much since book one, Uh, we've all if you've read,
- 2:08:22if you've read this far, if you followed along, you've known that
- 2:08:24any email channeler, that any man that discovers they can channel, will eventually
- 2:08:31go mad because of the corruption Onstitan. And if you watched the show only,
- 2:08:37it's the same thing. You know Rand is going Like, eventually Rand
- 2:08:41is gonna go mad because he's gonna he's been channeling, he is being exposed
- 2:08:48to the to the taint. He's gonna go mad. So and eventually he's
- 2:08:52going to have a big confrontation with the Dark One, and we don't know
- 2:08:56how long that's gonna be like it could that could be years down the line,
- 2:09:01right, So how is Rand going to last that without succumbing to the
- 2:09:07to the madness. So I was like, all right, I have to
- 2:09:09know. So I went I googled it and I asked, does Rand cleanse
- 2:09:13the taint from Sidon? And the answer is yes? And I was like
- 2:09:18when and that that is? And the when is book nine of Winter's Part.
- 2:09:26So I was like shit because when I when I spoiled it for my
- 2:09:33stuff, I was on book one, so I had eight more books to
- 2:09:35go. Damn, you really spoiled for yourself that right, Yeah, But
- 2:09:41I was like I don't care. I don't mind spoilers. But if anything,
- 2:09:43it made me more like be like I was more feverish, like I
- 2:09:48want to know, I want to know, let's go, let's go.
- 2:09:52Well, I read all my books. I read the I've been reading the
- 2:09:54series all ebooks, so swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, come on,
- 2:09:58come on. Like I was just devouring these books, and hell,
- 2:10:03there was a bunch of other events that happened throughout these books that I was
- 2:10:05like, oh, this is this is a surprise. That's interesting. The
- 2:10:11Battle of Domais well, his confrontation uh ninives confrontation with Ogeian in book four
- 2:10:18h Ran getting stuffed into a box and torture leading up to do Mia as
- 2:10:22well. Uh let's see his his confrontation with Robin, with Samiel. All
- 2:10:31of these events and then of course what happened in this book with the weather
- 2:10:35bowl and the confrontation with the seaun Shaan. These were all like pleasant,
- 2:10:39like oh my god, oh my god, Like am I aroused? Like
- 2:10:48no, well, because it's it's it's actually it's such a good story,
- 2:10:56all right, and like I want to take a minute to talk about a
- 2:10:58few things too. Is like when I'm considering how the power works in the
- 2:11:05wheel of time, you know, it really comes down to gender assigned roles,
- 2:11:11and that can be problematic in this day and age because you know,
- 2:11:16now people are all about breaking gender roles and gender stereotypes. And while the
- 2:11:24power, the true source is not like a staunch like oh men can only
- 2:11:28do this, women can only do this, It's not about that. It's
- 2:11:31more of like it's not it's more of like pointing out the like, yes,
- 2:11:37there are differences between men and women, all right. Men are naturally
- 2:11:41stronger than women, all right, and not saying that to be like some
- 2:11:45sort of inceel like, oh, men are better than women, right,
- 2:11:48Like we're stronger than women. It is a it is a physiological fact,
- 2:11:52all right. It's gonna put it on leave at that, right, And
- 2:11:56that and that is showcased with the male half of the truth. Male channelers
- 2:12:01are naturally stronger in the power. They're able to draw more power from the
- 2:12:05source, and they are able to do more things in terms of rock due
- 2:12:11to their rock drink. And the women, on the other hand, while
- 2:12:15it may be weaker in the power, that doesn't mean they are not equal
- 2:12:20to men, because there is a balancing act between between both halves of the
- 2:12:24true source. All Right, women have advantages that men don't, all right,
- 2:12:30And that is very true in real life as well, all right.
- 2:12:33Women in female channelers can create links with each other to share their power and
- 2:12:39make themselves stronger. And they're able to create more dex stereatus waves, so
- 2:12:46they can they can achieve more complex weaves than the men ever can't ever could,
- 2:12:50right, And also, like in terms, I want to give this
- 2:12:56shout out to the trans community because like, if you're thinking like well,
- 2:13:00how would like trans work in this story as well. We're gonna use balthemil
- 2:13:05slash around your as an example, because Balthamel was born a man and he
- 2:13:13therefore cannel sided. But when he died and it was his spirit was placed
- 2:13:18into the body of a woman, it was revealed that it is this,
- 2:13:22it is your soul that determines your connection to which half of the source.
- 2:13:26So since he was his spirit is male, he's still able to channel even
- 2:13:33though he's now his spirit isn't having a female's body. So that got me
- 2:13:37thinking, you know, I was like, you know, what if trans
- 2:13:41people existed in this world and as it turns out, the whole you know,
- 2:13:48men being born a woman but you've but you're a man trapped in a
- 2:13:54woman's body or vice versa. It has it can have, It has more
- 2:13:58the potential to have more substance in this story because what if, like if
- 2:14:05a channeler is born with a male a woman is born with a male spirit,
- 2:14:09and therefore they have a connection to Sidon, that would be that's that
- 2:14:13that's interesting, that would be interesting. That would be interesting. Now maybe
- 2:14:18they I mean, they don't know if they'll ever explore that in the Amazon
- 2:14:22show. I mean, sadly, while the majority of the Alphabet Mafia is
- 2:14:30getting a lot of recognition, even in the Amazon show, we're not seeing
- 2:14:33a lot of love for the trans community. But they could explore that,
- 2:14:37and that would be really interesting if they explore that, like, oh,
- 2:14:41well, like there's an nice at eye who there was a there is an
- 2:14:43ice at eye that was born with a connection to Sidon rather than side of
- 2:14:48her and she ends up coming to the madness which freaks everyone out because sadly
- 2:14:54the male half of the true source is tainted right now? Or what if
- 2:14:58like there was a man born with connections side on right, and it's like,
- 2:15:03oh he can he's channeling Sidear? What the fun? Yeah? There
- 2:15:09there definitely is a story that could be told. There is and we're explored.
- 2:15:18Yeah, and there comes to that villain who gets reborn, Yeah exactly.
- 2:15:22And also, like the thing is that since this was written in the
- 2:15:28nineties and the mid two thousands, uh, this this theories was written through
- 2:15:33like the nineties and the mid two thousands. Uh. You know, there's
- 2:15:35not a lot of lgbt Q representation. There are hints that it does exist.
- 2:15:43There are lesbians everywhere, like everywhere. I mean, yeah, there
- 2:15:50is is the show, at least in the show they show it like over
- 2:15:52the place. Yeah there is. And the thing is is that there are
- 2:15:56hints of it in this book. There's at one point where Elaine decides to
- 2:16:03create an honor guard for herself and Kamlin, and they're all women being recruited
- 2:16:09by her ward or Bridget. And the thing is that she makes a note
- 2:16:13about one of one of her new honor guard who she kind of she like
- 2:16:22has like a like kind of like a Gaydar moment where Elaine's like, huh,
- 2:16:30you know, she I can't a notice that this one guard doesn't really
- 2:16:33show that much interest in men. She couldn't she might not even like men
- 2:16:39romantically, but hey, you know, go off Like it was like one
- 2:16:43of those moments where it's just like we live Gaydar, we lou. But
- 2:16:48she's not entirely sure. I mean, come on, she's surrounded by a
- 2:16:52bunch of butch women, so I would it wouldn't be surprised if a lot
- 2:16:56of her new honor guard or butch lesbians, all right, and hell even
- 2:17:03though like even though Balthamel was placed into a woman's body, he immediately,
- 2:17:09like at first, he was pissed, like when it was when there was
- 2:17:13a scene where he was ring, there was a scene where, uh it
- 2:17:16was after he was reincarnated and he was being given his new orders by uh,
- 2:17:24the dark One. He was pissed because he realized that his spirit was
- 2:17:26put into a woman's body. Like he was pissed, but the Dark One
- 2:17:33basically told him to, you know, suck it up or die. And
- 2:17:37he was like, all right, I'll suck it up. And it doesn't
- 2:17:41take him long to embrace his new femininity, newfound femininity, because he's basically
- 2:17:45thrown he basically or she's basically throwing herself at both men and women at this
- 2:17:50point. And I'm like, oh, oh, oh, so we got
- 2:17:54a by we got a bisexual in the Forsaken Love Sexual Queen. Mm hmm.
- 2:18:01And I gotta tell you, at least either Semi l or Dimandred is
- 2:18:07gay. One of those two is gay, because the two of them were
- 2:18:15okay, no, I think, no, no, not Semil, but
- 2:18:16I'm pretty sure Demandrad had a gay boner for for Lous tarn Brand Slash Ran
- 2:18:24because Semil was described as always being jealous of the Dragon. Yeah, and
- 2:18:33that jealousy was just more of like, you know, I could do it
- 2:18:35better. It's more of that mochismo type of like he's not that great,
- 2:18:39I'm better, Like I could do better, right. Demandrad had a strange
- 2:18:48obsessive like hate boner for the Dragon, like he hated and I'm just like,
- 2:18:54I'm sure he did. Mm hmmm. And the thing is, Demandrad
- 2:19:01has not had much of a role yet, Like we haven't had like full
- 2:19:05on like he hasn't really been that involved in the story up until this point.
- 2:19:11He's appeared several times, like while Landfare, Grendel, Samiel, and
- 2:19:16Robin were meeting in secret with each other, Demandrad had been meeting in secret
- 2:19:22with Masana and Cenourage, so those three were definitely working together. But I'm
- 2:19:30like, you know, I wouldn't be surprised, given I wouldn't be surprised
- 2:19:35if Demandrad was like I had that kind of tea and Grendall. Let me
- 2:19:50tell you total pan section, because she's like Circe Lenister, except without the
- 2:20:01ancests. That's the best way to describe her. She's like Circe Leanister,
- 2:20:05but without the incests. Minus the incest. Yeah, like her. She
- 2:20:11So the thing about Brendle is that in the Age of Legends, before she
- 2:20:16joined the Dark One, she was actually world renowned at being one of the
- 2:20:20best psycho psychologists in the world because her special her specialty was a form of
- 2:20:30let's call them antidepressant weaves. So she she was very skilled at using a
- 2:20:37specific type of mind altering weaves that helped that helped her to cure mental illnesses
- 2:20:46you know, like you know, depression, anxiety. She used her waves
- 2:20:50to help to regulate and correct the chemical imbalances in your brain. But the
- 2:20:58problem was is that these weaves were very similar to forbidden weaves known as compulsion
- 2:21:03weaves, so basically mind control weaves. M hm, and well she got
- 2:21:11Really what drove her to joining the Dark One was because she got a little
- 2:21:13carried away and started using her weaves to control people. And she's got so
- 2:21:18good at it that now three thousand years later, she is the most powerful.
- 2:21:24She is the most skilled at compulsion weaves, like that's her specialty.
- 2:21:28And hiding an air domin like wow, She's in the capital of the Arab
- 2:21:33Domin right now and she has she has dozens of people under her complete control.
- 2:21:41Like she has a very obscene fascination with beautiful people, both men and
- 2:21:48women. If they're esthetic, if they fit her aesthetic, she will place
- 2:21:52them under her control and have them service her in many different ways. Yeah,
- 2:21:58she had home mm hmm. She a hope and she is definitely at
- 2:22:03the very least, she is definitely bisexual if I say penned because well,
- 2:22:09let's go with bisexual m because it's because her standards apply to both men and
- 2:22:16women. So mm hmmmmm, she is definitely a bisexual. And Massonna,
- 2:22:31I don't know, No, I don't know enough about Massona just yet because
- 2:22:33she's had a very small role. But I'm calling it cat lady lesbian,
- 2:22:43A cat lady lesbian, not a cat lady lesbian. One kiss ain't what
- 2:22:48I called p d am over here making out with them in front of the
- 2:22:50camera. Mm hmm. Do you want to see you're really gonna do this?
- 2:22:58You're doing this in front of my podcast? Yeah? Yeah, I
- 2:23:05mean this the parts that get taken out, but yeah, yeah, alright
- 2:23:09whatever anyway, so anyway I'm calling it. I'm pretty sure Massana is a
- 2:23:13hardcore lesbian. If not her, then probably then probably Semarage one of those
- 2:23:20two is a lesbian lesbian, a lesbian, honest, lesbian honest, one
- 2:23:26of those two is a lesbian. Uh. The thing. The thing about
- 2:23:30those two is that, like brendel Semarage was a world renowned healer. In
- 2:23:35fact, she was the best healer in the world. She her healing weaves
- 2:23:39were so powerful. If he can heal anything, saved death. The problem
- 2:23:43was is that she's a sadistic psychopath and she liked, yes, she liked
- 2:23:48to inflict as much pain as possible during her during her healings. So while
- 2:23:54she was being whisked around the entire world to perform healings on hundreds of different
- 2:24:01people a day, she would deliberately cause them pain during their healing. Now,
- 2:24:07initially no one complained because they assumed that was just a part of the
- 2:24:11healing process. But eventually enough of them, enough of them reported that they
- 2:24:16experienced. Uh, they were experienced. They were they were experiencing excruciating pain
- 2:24:24during the healing process. And the higher authorities in the Age of Legends put
- 2:24:31two and two together and realized that Simarage was deliberately inflicting pain on her patients,
- 2:24:37and they arrested her and they gave her two options. She is either
- 2:24:43to swear oaths of fealty on an on a binder and have half of her
- 2:24:48life basically, have her life shortened and like cut in half and become a
- 2:24:56public servant for the rest of her life, or be severed. And for
- 2:25:05those of you who have been following along with the story, obviously either one.
- 2:25:09Yeah, she chose, Uh, she chose. She didn't choose either
- 2:25:15of them. And when the Dark One prison was bored into, she fled.
- 2:25:20She fled. When the Dark One touched the world, she immediately she
- 2:25:26fled, and she joined the Dark One and became done as Semarage. And
- 2:25:33because she is the most she is the most bloodthirsty out of all the forsaken.
- 2:25:39In fact, in the territories that she controlled, whenever agents of the
- 2:25:43Light were captured and they found out that they were going to be held under
- 2:25:48Semarage trigger warning, they would try to take their own lives because they would
- 2:25:52rather die than be held in captivity by Semarage. Yeah, and then Massana.
- 2:26:01Hers was more of out of like. Her reasoning was more out of
- 2:26:03pride and feeling slighted by uh the like the authority, by like the scholar,
- 2:26:15uh, the academic of the academic community. Because Masana, she originally
- 2:26:22wanted to become a researcher at the at the Charome. The Charome was this
- 2:26:28institution of higher education and knowledge. Uh. They it was at the Charome
- 2:26:33that all types of experiments were being conducted using the power as well as and
- 2:26:39it is also technology too. The thing about the Charome was that it was
- 2:26:43a sphere that floated in the sky and it wasn't being it wasn't it wasn't
- 2:26:52floating because of the powers. It was being held in the sky out of
- 2:26:54pure technological advancement. All right, why did they make it into a huge
- 2:27:01floating sphere because they could. Yeah, but Masana had originally applied to be
- 2:27:09a researcher at the Charme. But the thing is is that they kind of
- 2:27:13laughed at her. The leaders in of the charon kind of laughed at her
- 2:27:18and said, yours talents would be better suited as a professor. And for
- 2:27:24her, this was incredibly insulting because she believed that she had more to contribute
- 2:27:28to the academic society than just being a professor. Yeah, educator. I
- 2:27:35mean, she kind of lives up to the whole educator thing, because while
- 2:27:45it's not really known who she is in the White Tower, like who she's
- 2:27:48disguising herself in the White Tower, it's hinted that she's taking a role as
- 2:27:54an educator for the novices, and uh, Sammaraje kind of made a jab
- 2:28:01at her about doing that and that pissed her off. That pissed Massan off
- 2:28:07to no end. Oh yeah, I would say so. Yeah. I
- 2:28:13gotta say a lot of the Forsaken their reasoning for joined in the Dark One
- 2:28:16was either pure selfish intent or because they were actually scumbags. Either way,
- 2:28:24they're pieces of shit. Yep. Uh. But yeah, anyway, I
- 2:28:31just want to say for those of you who were unsure of getting into this
- 2:28:37story, mainly because you're uh, I know a lot of people want to
- 2:28:41see more LGBTQ like representation and literature. Yeah, I will say. The
- 2:28:52thing is, unfortunately Robert Jordan passed away in the late two thousands before he
- 2:28:56could finish the entire series, and while well, Brandon Sanderson took over and
- 2:29:03finished the story for him, we're not going to see more from the Wheel
- 2:29:05of Time. So unfortunately, there's not going to be any future stories that
- 2:29:11would in the set in the world of the Wheel of Time, that will
- 2:29:16have more lgbt Q inclusion. I mean, if you look at it from
- 2:29:22this perspective, in the Age of Legends, it was a time, the
- 2:29:26Age of Legends was a time of high technological advancement and societal advancement and enlightenment.
- 2:29:35So and as we've seen even in modern society, the more advanced and
- 2:29:41the more accepting we become, the more prevalent the lgbtwo community becomes as well.
- 2:29:46Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm pretty sure there. I'm pretty
- 2:29:50sure there are plenty of openly gay people in the Age in the Age of
- 2:29:54Legends, and I appreciate I can appreciate the Amazon TV uh, the Amazon
- 2:30:01prior TV show for having more conclusion and with the lgbt community. Yeah,
- 2:30:09and also they really live up to the to the to how diverse the Wheel
- 2:30:15of Time is even in the books. It is very diverse. It's not
- 2:30:18just all like a bunch of like it what the West Lands compared it can
- 2:30:24be compared to to Western Europe. But it's not all a bunch of like
- 2:30:31occasions. Yeahs CAUCUSUS, yep, the there, it has a lot of
- 2:30:39elements from different cultures in society, different cultures from around the world, from
- 2:30:45like English, Western European uh to like Asian like the Shawn. Shawn are
- 2:30:50definitely based off of the Mongolian Empire and uh Tier I would say Tear is
- 2:30:58more more Kins is something like Indian or Indonesian society. Kyne is definitely more
- 2:31:07of like Kyne and uh and Or is definitely more Western Europe uh Tarbalan is
- 2:31:13like uh. I'd say Tarbaalan is the American of the is the America of
- 2:31:18the of the series, because it's very diverse. The ice that I have
- 2:31:22members from all over the Westlands. Well, there's a nation on the other
- 2:31:28side of the Adel Waste called Shara, and I'm pretty sure Shara is very
- 2:31:35similar to maybe may have elements of like African society. I don't know yet
- 2:31:41because that while it's been mentioned there, they haven't had a role yet in
- 2:31:48the story, and I don't think they will until like the last four,
- 2:31:52like the last four books, because I'm a book ten and that they haven't
- 2:31:56showed up yet. And I think that where Demondra is hiding, but I
- 2:32:01don't know, we don't know where he's Hiding at the athen Mirror are based
- 2:32:07off of the Polynesian cultures, the you know, the Maori, the Pacific
- 2:32:16islander cultures. So there's a lot of diversity, and I appreciate it,
- 2:32:24and I enjoy the story, and hopefully you guys do too. I mean,
- 2:32:30if you've made it this far into the into the story, you know,
- 2:32:33we're on book eight and we're gonna do We're doing book nine next week.
- 2:32:37You know, hopefully you can stick with us, stick with us to
- 2:32:39the end, because I think it's worth it. I think after next week
- 2:32:45episode we're probably gonna take a break because at that point we're gonna be pretty
- 2:32:48much caught up to where I'm at. Yeah. Yeah, because I'm on
- 2:32:54book ten and we're gonna be doing book nine next week. Oh shit.
- 2:33:01Yeah. So Devin, if you want to, like, go ahead and
- 2:33:05do some like if you want to, like go ahead and start reviewing some
- 2:33:09of the books you've been reading, the books I've been reading. Yeah,
- 2:33:15so we can get a So so after book nine, we're we're probably gonna
- 2:33:22be doing a few extra books. Well, we will make those decisions.
- 2:33:26We'll make that decision next week because that is the next week us decision,
- 2:33:28Devin and Jacob decision, not a decision, but the decision we are making
- 2:33:35right now is that uh, this is the end of this episode. Thank
- 2:33:41you for uh listening in watching us as we talked about book eight of the
- 2:33:46Wheel of Time, Path of Daggers, and we hope that you can join
- 2:33:52us next week as we review book nine of the Wheel of Time, Winter's
- 2:33:56Heart. Oh wow, how ms a cool? Mm hmm until then,
- 2:34:03until then, bye back