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Mocking trade deadline possibilities for the Nationals · District Territory

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  Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome back to the District Territory podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Eric Shellhouse from bat Boys Baseball joining me today
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  Speaker 1: Spencer does Baum The Athletic. Whatever time a day you're
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  Speaker 1: tuning into, it's going to be a deadline special, as
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  Speaker 1: Spencer put out a story on The Athletic the other day,
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  Speaker 1: listening and taking offers as general manager on some mock trades,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to start with this one. Cj Abrams
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  Speaker 1: to the Boston Red Sox for Frank Little rias Kais
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  Speaker 1: and Witherspoon. A slew of prospects, but those are the
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  Speaker 1: two that stand out to me there, Spencer, you let
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  Speaker 1: off with that one because his name is coming up
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  Speaker 1: a lot, I imagine, but sort of work me through
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  Speaker 1: what a package might have to look like for cj Abrams.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get to that. I will let the listeners
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  Speaker 2: or actould say, the viewers know. We are at the
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  Speaker 2: time of year where my eyes are going to be
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  Speaker 2: going back and forth between the screen and the phone
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  Speaker 2: just to check on sources and things like that. So
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  Speaker 2: if you see the eyes darting around that that may
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  Speaker 2: be the reason why. But yeah, with that package in particular, right,
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  Speaker 2: I was someone where that is a case where the
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  Speaker 2: Red Sox probably say no, it's their top four prospects. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And that is a haul that maybe you see in
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  Speaker 2: like the Wan Soto deal, I don't necessarily think you
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  Speaker 2: would see in a CJ Abrams deal, although at this
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  Speaker 2: point his value is it's not crazy to think of
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  Speaker 2: them in the same stratosphere. And that's why I think
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  Speaker 2: the Nationals may be comfortable with that as a starting point.
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  Speaker 2: Right where like, that is your initial offer, and you
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  Speaker 2: try to find some middle ground somewhere, understanding that ultimately
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  Speaker 2: you do not need to move CJ at this deadline,
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  Speaker 2: and ultimately you want to be not only blown away
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  Speaker 2: by an offer, but like almost laughing at the other
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  Speaker 2: team as you accept it. Right Like, that's that's probably
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  Speaker 2: what it would take to move CJ. And so I
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  Speaker 2: don't envision them necessarily getting a package like that back,
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  Speaker 2: but that may be an interesting starting point for them
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  Speaker 2: to work with.
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious on your opinion, how much of a difference
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  Speaker 1: does the package look like if a trade happens like
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  Speaker 1: right now versus in the off season, how much do
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  Speaker 1: teams value that extra playoff push with a bat at
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  Speaker 1: a glove, a guy like this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard kind of mixed answers on that front.
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  Speaker 2: I think ultimately it is undoubtedly more. And then you
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  Speaker 2: also have to factor and write like what exactly is
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  Speaker 2: going to go on with the CBA and things of
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  Speaker 2: that nature. I think at the moment it's clear obviously
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  Speaker 2: that a third postseason push is more valuable than a second.
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  Speaker 2: But if CJ held a nine hundred ops through the
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  Speaker 2: end of the year, I think it may be relatively slim.
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  Speaker 1: Another guy whose name has certainly come up a lot,
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  Speaker 1: Foster Griffin. One reader submitted Foster Griffin to the Chicago
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  Speaker 1: White Sox for David Sandlin and other pieces. You said,
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  Speaker 1: just straight up, for Sandlin, that's a no go, but
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  Speaker 1: the other pieces intrigued. You do you think the White
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  Speaker 1: Sox system is a good suitor for the Nationals for
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  Speaker 1: a Foster Griffin deal.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about system in particular, because I can't
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  Speaker 2: necessarily speak to all like thirty team systems. What I
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  Speaker 2: can say is the White Sox strike me as a
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  Speaker 2: clear fit for adding starting pitching without maybe breaking the
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  Speaker 2: bank right where. I think it's been reported elsewhere that
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  Speaker 2: they've communicated they're not super interested in moving any of
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  Speaker 2: their top ten prospects. I always wonder exactly how true
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  Speaker 2: that is, but that generally conveys to me that they're
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  Speaker 2: not going after like a Jose Soriano or a Terek's
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  Speaker 2: Google or something like that. I think Foster to the
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  Speaker 2: White Sox is something that could have some credence and
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  Speaker 2: along with other teams potentially being interested. But yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: for me, Sandlin and other pieces whatever that might be,
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  Speaker 2: might be enough to get the ball rolling. Just Sandlin alone,
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  Speaker 2: I would imagine that the Nationals would be against.
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  Speaker 1: I heard a little bit of Paul Taboni speaking the
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  Speaker 1: other day about the quote unquote contract extensions fizzling out
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  Speaker 1: between the Nationals and Foster Griffin, and he said that
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  Speaker 1: isn't necessarily true or not how he felt it went down.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any sort of update on that or
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  Speaker 1: perspective on that, Spence.
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  Speaker 2: All I've heard, and obviously I have heard the radio interview.
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  Speaker 2: All I've heard since that interview is that there's no
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  Speaker 2: concrete updates with Foster Griffin, meaning that well, I know
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  Speaker 2: that means nothing, but generally speaking, meaning a lot is
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  Speaker 2: still on the table. I'd rather not go further into that,
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  Speaker 2: just because I'm do nailing their reporting down. But I
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  Speaker 2: would say to say that they've fizzled off or fizzled
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  Speaker 2: out maybe premature.
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  Speaker 1: You also swooted out earlier today. Man, this NL wild
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  Speaker 1: Card race, it's starting to get hectic. And this is
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  Speaker 1: at the time of recording, so by tomorrow morning, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure this may have changed a little bit. But it's
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  Speaker 1: a tough job for a general manager in the National
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  Speaker 1: League this year. That is, Paul Tabony's been putt to
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  Speaker 1: the test, thrown into the flames first season. Here, let's
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  Speaker 1: get to the one where the Nats are buyers. This
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  Speaker 1: is an interesting one to meet Sam Peterson for a
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  Speaker 1: third base in Matt Chapman from the San Francisco Giants.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting, like you said, if you just remove money
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  Speaker 1: from the picture here. But given that the Nationals have
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  Speaker 1: just subtracted Curtis Mead, there is a maybe an need
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  Speaker 1: to address third base this season. But what did you
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  Speaker 1: think of that one?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually know the person who'sbmitted it, and it's
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  Speaker 2: someone who I'm frankly aligned with on a lot of
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  Speaker 2: just like opinions on the Nationals, and so I gave
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  Speaker 2: the offer real credence I just think and candidly knowing
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  Speaker 2: the team's financials is still it is both the most
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  Speaker 2: difficult thing to nail down as a reporter and also
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  Speaker 2: something that obviously will play a huge role in this
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  Speaker 2: team moving forward. And I can't say any of us
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  Speaker 2: know concretely how much money plays into it, but I
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  Speaker 2: think Altimony is smart enough to know that if you're
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  Speaker 2: adding a massive contract, it should be someone that you
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  Speaker 2: really believe in. And even with taking on, even with
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  Speaker 2: the Giants taking on forty million dollars in that deal, right,
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  Speaker 2: that's still a ton of money owed to Chapman. And
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  Speaker 2: if I'm the Nationals, I'm probably allocating that somewhere else
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  Speaker 2: if I can. But I think it's an interesting thought
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  Speaker 2: thought exercise at the very least.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that you always find the right words
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  Speaker 1: for it, the thought exercise. I love that. There. That's
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  Speaker 1: I just want to give some claps really quickly to
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Williams for coming back today and excited to announce
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  Speaker 1: that you're Jake Urban is going to be starting for
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  Speaker 1: the Nationals tomorrow. This is teetering off from the deadline
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  Speaker 1: really quickly, but him coming back is exciting news for
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  Speaker 1: the Nats, given that the starting pitching can use.
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  Speaker 2: Some help, totally right, and the deadline is the main focus.
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  Speaker 2: But these four games right before the deadline are still
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  Speaker 2: going to determine what the Nationals do right in a
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  Speaker 2: way that we haven't seen in a long time. And
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  Speaker 2: so yeah, Jake being healthy, sounds like his stuff is
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  Speaker 2: pretty close to what it was before, if not all
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  Speaker 2: the way back. And the fact that they'll probably they
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  Speaker 2: won't push him over one hundred pitches, but Blake said
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  Speaker 2: it'll be pretty close to, you know, what they would
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  Speaker 2: have expected out of him before. So yeah, he'll need
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  Speaker 2: to have a big start tomorrow. It's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: pressure and its first came back. But if there's anyone
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  Speaker 2: that can handle that, I have to imagine Jake is
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  Speaker 2: one of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that guy getting the rock tomorrow. And
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  Speaker 1: great stuff from Trevor Williams today. Man, he looked sharp
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  Speaker 1: and came into throw it into a tricky situation and
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  Speaker 1: obviously the Nationals did not win the game, but kept
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  Speaker 1: the minute to the best of his ability, I thought,
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  Speaker 1: at least. But take a look at the upcoming schedule.
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  Speaker 1: They head down to Atlanta and then four game set
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  Speaker 1: the mock trades. They're just so much fun. They're a
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  Speaker 1: little tricky for me to think about a guy like
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  Speaker 1: Luis Garcia Junior leaving town. But Kais of Witherspood, I love,
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  Speaker 1: I love that his name is coming up. I like
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  Speaker 1: his potential. But Louis Boston, I don't know you had
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  Speaker 1: another one of Louis's Arizona shout out, Paul Cobage Twitter Warrior,
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  Speaker 1: love him.
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  Speaker 2: But.
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  Speaker 1: Louis trade talks just break my heart. But talk me through, Like,
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  Speaker 1: what is a package looking like for him right now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I think a package if you are the Nationals
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  Speaker 2: and you don't necessarily have to move him. But there's
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  Speaker 2: I guess some reasons too. I would maybe lean towards
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  Speaker 2: a team with pitching depth, and that's why I think
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  Speaker 2: the Red Sox make a lot of sense right where
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  Speaker 2: Witherspoon is kind of a lower level arm but someone
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  Speaker 2: with a ton of upside, and so you're really getting
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  Speaker 2: potentially a significant player in that as well as pitching
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  Speaker 2: depth and Rivera, and so that one made more sense
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  Speaker 2: to me. I think with the Diamondbacks package that you
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  Speaker 2: showed on screen earlier that I brought up, I think
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  Speaker 2: the Nationals would be happy with that package as well.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't necessarily trust that the Diamondbacks, a team
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  Speaker 2: that needs like every single year and doesn't have the
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  Speaker 2: same sort of depth, would be willing to move someone
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  Speaker 2: like Patrick Forbes. And so when I put these things together,
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  Speaker 2: obviously I'm thinking, and fans are thinking, because they put
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  Speaker 2: them together as well, Hey what are the Nationals need?
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  Speaker 2: What do the other team need? And I think a
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  Speaker 2: team like the Diamondbacks without much wouldn't do that. But again,
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  Speaker 2: as I mentioned before, the Red Sox, as we saw
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  Speaker 2: on the Curtis Mead deal, are totally fine giving away
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  Speaker 2: pitching depth if it means like an impact that back
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  Speaker 2: and so, yeah, the Red Sox won't intrigue me in particular.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this one I was honestly a bit of a
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  Speaker 1: fan of. I'd hate to lose Louis, but Emerson Hancock
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  Speaker 1: would be an awesome addition. But as you stated here,
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  Speaker 1: this is one where I think it's obvious the Mariners
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  Speaker 1: probably just say no, he said, they probably do not
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  Speaker 1: want to part with him. But it's interesting thought Louis
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  Speaker 1: to Seattle. But this one also stuck out to me
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  Speaker 1: because we see the mention of Jacob Young and Jacob
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  Speaker 1: Young and Nasim Nunez, I know Jacob Young for the
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  Speaker 1: defensive value as well. Stick out to me because when
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  Speaker 1: you look back at the World Baseball Classic and how
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  Speaker 1: Venezuela won that game and how other rosters were built,
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  Speaker 1: they had speed demons people, they had guys that were
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  Speaker 1: ready to blaze, And I think that's something that playoff
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  Speaker 1: teams are definitely considering and looking to add here at
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  Speaker 1: the stretch. And those are two names that I don't
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  Speaker 1: think there's as much talk around them. But Spencer, is
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  Speaker 1: anyone you know call and ask about Jacob Young or like,
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  Speaker 1: what what do you think the odds are that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I know last Winner, as we've kind of reported,
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  Speaker 2: teams were in on Jacob Young. What I would kind
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  Speaker 2: of lay out for fans is the Nationals and the
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  Speaker 2: league at large probably have a higher opinion of Jacob
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  Speaker 2: Young than average fan does, just because such a premium
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  Speaker 2: is placed on defense. In his defense, is that exceptional.
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  Speaker 2: That being said, it's not like you're trading a starting
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  Speaker 2: pitcher away right where you look at almost every team
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  Speaker 2: and they need starting pitcher. The number of teams that
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  Speaker 2: would need either a center fielder and see Jacob as
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  Speaker 2: someone worth giving up pretty high level prospects for, or
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  Speaker 2: the number of teams that see him as a fourth
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  Speaker 2: outfielder and also would give up a ton of value
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  Speaker 2: for might be pretty slim. I think the Guardians are
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  Speaker 2: a good fit, and I think that's why this trade
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  Speaker 2: package was really compelling to me, because their offense is
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  Speaker 2: really really struggled this season, and because they could candidly
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  Speaker 2: use him as a significant upgraded center field That being said,
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  Speaker 2: I just think that there's too much uncertainty with the
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  Speaker 2: prospects coming back to the Nationals, where the Guardians might
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  Speaker 2: be high on some of those guys and you'd think
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  Speaker 2: and the Nationals, whether it's a Spino who's had some
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  Speaker 2: injury concerns or Jase who has had kind of up
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  Speaker 2: and down I don't want to say season, but a
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  Speaker 2: lot of mixed opinions on him. It's hard to know
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  Speaker 2: exactly whether that package would be good enough for either side.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the last one I want to break down is
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  Speaker 1: one from yours truly, and I love this one, Spencer.
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  Speaker 1: I really do yo yo for Kevin Ginkel, but I
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  Speaker 1: do have I mean, it makes perfect sense, I think
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  Speaker 1: for both sides. But I am a little intrigued as
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  Speaker 1: to what the mystery box may hold with Johanni Morales
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  Speaker 1: now that Curtis Meade is no longer in the system.
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  Speaker 1: In theory, the pathway is opening up a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But I'd love that. From an addition standpoint for the Nationals,
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  Speaker 1: it seems like a win win. Oh, there it is.
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  Speaker 1: Here it is. But tell me about this one really quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's funny too, because I didn't initially plan to
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  Speaker 2: think of the Dylan Flora trade, or maybe didn't even
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  Speaker 2: plan to think of Ginkle right as like these things
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  Speaker 2: that line up, but it's just such a direct parallel
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  Speaker 2: where the trade that the Nationals and Diamondbacks made two
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  Speaker 2: years ago. Go is almost the flipped version of what
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  Speaker 2: we'd see in this deal. I just think that the
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  Speaker 2: value would line up so clearly and well, they are
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  Speaker 2: definitely many people in the organization that that really like Morales.
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  Speaker 2: They do have a number of in field bats at
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  Speaker 2: Triple A and below that could potentially fill that in
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  Speaker 2: in the major leagues or in the future where you
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  Speaker 2: have and I know that you know none of these
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  Speaker 2: guys are in the forty man roster, but Kayden Wallace
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  Speaker 2: has looked incredible this year. Trey Lipscomb has looked a
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  Speaker 2: lot better. When you think about guys with real pedigree
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  Speaker 2: lower down in the minor leagues, there are a number
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  Speaker 2: of names that that make a lot of sense. And
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  Speaker 2: so if the Nationals see that as a position of
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  Speaker 2: strength and see Morales as someone where an organization like
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  Speaker 2: the Dumbacks put a lot of value on him, I
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  Speaker 2: think Ginkel would be a great ad in terms of
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  Speaker 2: what he has done in the past and what he
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  Speaker 2: kind of projects ahead to do in the future. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this struck me as a fair deal, but I was
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  Speaker 2: also the one that made it, so I'd be curious
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  Speaker 2: to see if anyone in the comments or anyone otherwise
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  Speaker 2: has some pushback on it.
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  Speaker 1: We can't pay too much attention to the haters, but
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  Speaker 1: I give it an A plus. I think it's a
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  Speaker 1: solid win win package for both sides. Good job, good job.
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  Speaker 2: No, I will say I have a story going up
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  Speaker 2: at some point this evening that gives us a little
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  Speaker 2: bit about the National's openness to many, many different possibilities
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  Speaker 2: at the deadline. But more more than that, because these
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  Speaker 2: upcoming games matter so much, I did focus in on
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: what sort of things to be looking for in this
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: upcoming Brave series, which is something I, again I have
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: to stress I would have never done and kind of
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: to a certain degree, have never done during my time
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  Speaker 2: on this beat. But these not only feel like playoff games.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: These matter as much as any regular season game we've
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: seen here in I don't know, seven years, at this point.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: This is going to play a pivotal role in what
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: the Nationals do at the deadline in my opinion, especially
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: these next two games in my kind of estimation. And
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: so yeah, when I kind of project what could matter
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: based on what we just saw, you'll get a sneak
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: peek at this. But what Clayton Beater and Orlanta Robalta
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: have shown over the last week a few weeks in fact,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: has been really impressive, even though the box score suggests otherwise.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: James and DJ have been great, which I think is
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: worth keeping an eye on. And I'll kind of leave
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: that third takeaway for readers. I don't want to give
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: too much away, but yeah, really exciting baseball coming up
• 18:55
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• 18:59
  Speaker 2: to us and watching it all kind of go down,
• 19:02
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• 19:06
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• 19:18
  Speaker 1: it for this one. We'll be back on Friday. With
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: another deadline focused episode I imagine Spencer until then, see
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