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- 0:00Is the worldwide sports radio network.
- 0:05Reports into Yahoo Sports Wednesday included a juicy rumor
- 0:09about the NBA's all time points leader Le Bron James and his
- 0:12destination next season if he doesn't retire.
- 0:16While the Lakers may still be in play, the prevailing theory is
- 0:19that Le Bron will pick to continue his career in 2026 and
- 0:222027, either going back home to the Cavaliers, joining forces
- 0:28with Steph and the Warriors, or yes, your New York Knicks are in
- 0:32the mix. Is LeBron finally going to make
- 0:34the decision to come to MSG to chase that fifth ring, or will
- 0:38the King continue to take his talents elsewhere?
- 0:41Or call it quits. On today's Concrete Jungle
- 0:44carousel, we catch up with all the tri-state area teams in all
- 0:48sports headlined by The Jets trade of defensive end Jermaine
- 0:51Johnson to Tennessee where he will be reunited with Bambi Bob
- 0:55Sala in exchange for nose tackle to Andre Sweat.
- 0:59And before we find out who is in like Flynn and who is our new
- 1:03King of the Hill, we will whip around the rest of the NF LS
- 1:06offseason news on the start of the combine on another jam
- 1:10packed, fully loaded, brand spanking new live Thursday night
- 1:15edition of Jabba and the Man give him a significant they're
- 1:18going to have. A ton of money to spend.
- 1:19Why not putting in one of the top three offensive players in
- 1:28the league? We're going to be looking at
- 1:36Aaron Judge and saying that you can't win the big game, Michael
- 1:39Jordan said. I played 82 games.
- 1:42You don't see Levon doing that. A game where you got to go
- 1:45before I told you, Giant fans, Saquon Barkley at this point.
- 2:03Thank you. Whatever you want about that
- 2:05quarterback in the NFL, really. You're.
- 2:48Listening to Jabba and the Mouth.
- 2:52Yes, yes, yes. No more snow, ladies and
- 2:55gentlemen. Stay away, Santa.
- 2:57Well, that's December, this isn't Christmas.
- 3:00We're in February, we're heading to March.
- 3:03Hopefully no more snow here in Long Island, New York as the
- 3:07city is taking the brute of the winter on as we have been saying
- 3:14it. You're listening to Jabba and
- 3:17the Mouth. My name is Errol Marx.
- 3:19They call me the Mouth. And tonight my Co host as
- 3:23always, Mr. Speedy PD Executive Producer, Mr. Aaron Fish Fishman
- 3:29on the board. Tommy Poops as we always say
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- 4:04Ladies and gentlemen, it's been a crazy last couple of days.
- 4:08I went to the doctor and for everybody to understand and no,
- 4:12I have a colonoscopy tomorrow, a colonoscopy tomorrow, ladies and
- 4:18gentlemen. And I to me, you think about
- 4:22this and I, I wonder if anybody has been through what I've been
- 4:25through when it comes to this situation.
- 4:28And we're fixing our computer because Speedy likes to play
- 4:32with the controls and I have no idea what he's doing.
- 4:35But I, I have this gas problem. I, I don't know what it is, but
- 4:41I, I think it's IBS irritable barrel syndrome, or it could be
- 4:46I, I'm locked those intolerant, I don't know.
- 4:49But over the last couple of years my girlfriend's been
- 4:51telling me, oh, you got IBS, you got IBS.
- 4:54I'm always in and out of the bathroom, always not as bad as
- 4:57Tommy, but I'm bad. So over the last couple of weeks
- 5:03I've been, I've been dealing with stomach pains and I've been
- 5:05getting cramps and I don't know if anybody has dealt with this
- 5:08stuff. You're, you're doing it again,
- 5:10speedy on the camera. Stop doing it and and make sure
- 5:13that you're not moving it. I'm trying to help you.
- 5:15What do you keep changing the thing?
- 5:16If you don't know how to run it, let me run it.
- 5:20But I've been through this situation before with the
- 5:24problems with, you know, cramps and I as an athlete, you know,
- 5:29you play sports, you're running and you, you get this like you
- 5:33get this acid in your ribs and it feels very awkward.
- 5:36But I'm not running. I'm not, there's no acid going
- 5:39on with me. And I, I don't think it has
- 5:42anything to do with that. So I went to the doctor, my
- 5:46gastrologist, and he told me, he tells me that well, we need to
- 5:52do all these different things to you.
- 5:53So I went for a CAT scan, got my pelvis, all the pelvic areas, my
- 5:58intestines, all of it, you you name it.
- 6:01They, they took a picture of it. I don't even want to get into
- 6:04it, but they didn't find anything.
- 6:06All they told me is they, they saw that you have kidney stones.
- 6:09I know I have a 3mm and 4mm, that's fine.
- 6:12Then he tells me, well, we got to check your your feces.
- 6:18So I don't want to scare anybody away on this show.
- 6:20But so I checked it, but they want me to do other things with
- 6:25it. It's like it's like finger
- 6:27painting in a way that it's not something that you want to talk
- 6:31about on this radio show. But now tomorrow I have a
- 6:33colonoscopy. Now I thought I've had a
- 6:36colonoscopy before three years ago to get my my back end
- 6:41checked. Yes.
- 6:42And I was fine. The doctor said I don't have to
- 6:47come back for another nine years.
- 6:48So what I did, ladies and gentlemen, as I thought, I, I, I
- 6:52don't have to deal with this ever again for for a while.
- 6:55So he tells me that he looks at the situation.
- 6:59He tells me, listen, we need to do another colonoscopy.
- 7:02I have to see what's going on with that, the backside.
- 7:05So I said, I, my doctor told me I don't have to go and see it
- 7:08for another nine years. But he, he says, well, I have to
- 7:11see it. So I, it's all about a money
- 7:12thing. I, I really think insurance
- 7:14companies are all about the money.
- 7:17So here's the situation, ladies and gentlemen.
- 7:19Tomorrow I have to fast for 30. So I started to fast last night
- 7:27at 12 midnight. I got to fast from 12:00 now to
- 7:312:00 in the afternoon tomorrow. So think about this.
- 7:36That's over 38 hours of fasting, no food, only liquids.
- 7:41Now, I know there's a lot of people that have dealt, dealt
- 7:45with this and done this. I mean, in the Indiana Indian
- 7:48culture, they do it once, I think it's once a year, once a
- 7:51week where they only drink liquids.
- 7:53They don't eat. So they got a drink.
- 7:56They only can drink liquids for a week.
- 7:58I don't know what it's called, but whatever.
- 8:02So I, I feel for those people. I do.
- 8:05I feel for them. But the fact here is, yeah, why
- 8:08do you have to do that? Fish, You got to make me look at
- 8:11food. I get sick just really realizing
- 8:14that I'm never going to be able to eat.
- 8:16I feel like I'm never going to eat again.
- 8:19But that's. Not food, Errol, that's what you
- 8:22had to paint do finger painting with.
- 8:24I gave you a paintbrush though. OK, well thank you.
- 8:27Well, it looked like food so it made me a little bit hungry so.
- 8:30Sorry to get you hungry. Yeah, well, I told you you're
- 8:33going to do this one one way or another tonight.
- 8:35But I, the whole problem here is I got to wait 363036 to 38 hours
- 8:42to to do this to, to get this procedure.
- 8:45By the time I eat, it'll be probably 3:00 or 4:00 in the
- 8:49afternoon. So I am, you know, it's funny
- 8:52because I was talking to fish early this morning and he was
- 8:54telling me, I could only imagine how angry you're going to be on
- 8:58this show because you're probably going to be craving
- 8:59food. And I, and I will tell you guys
- 9:02that there is a possibility at some point tonight, I'm going to
- 9:06probably RIP this mic off this stand because I am extremely
- 9:10hungry right now. And it's not like I've never
- 9:13fasted before. It's just when you're being told
- 9:15that you can't eat, it makes you even want to eat more.
- 9:19It's it's not that I've never done this before, It's just the
- 9:22fact that I know I can't eat. It pisses me off.
- 9:25That's all I'm going to say. So expect a little craziness on
- 9:30the show tonight like it always is.
- 9:31I I've always been crazy on the show so I don't kick back on any
- 9:35of the crazy stuff that I do. Anyways, at 8:30 we will be
- 9:39talking to former Rangers and Islander Stanley Cup winning
- 9:43general manager Neil Smith. Now first of all, Speedy is the
- 9:46one that put this up here. He never won a Stanley Cup as
- 9:50far as a manager with the New York Islanders, just so
- 9:54everybody knows, that's not what he was mean.
- 9:56He won the Stanley Cup with the New York Rangers.
- 9:58He was the the mastermind of the 94 Stanley Cup champion New York
- 10:05Rangers. He was the one that made the
- 10:06trade for Mark Messier and Adam Graves.
- 10:09He was the one that drafted Sergey Zubov.
- 10:12This guy was the reason why the Rangers won a Stanley Cup in 94.
- 10:17So for all the Ranger fans that want to doubt him or don't know
- 10:20who Neil Smith is, well ladies and gentlemen, then you don't
- 10:23know your Rangers hockey. This guy is as good and as
- 10:27bright as any hockey mind that's been on this show.
- 10:31Smart, energetic, and I'm sure he has his own take on United
- 10:36States hockey. As if you don't know, Neil Smith
- 10:39is a Canadian so I I don't know if he's rooting for Canada or
- 10:43he's rooting for United States, but we'll know a little bit
- 10:46later in the show where he was going or what he has to say
- 10:48about Team USA Hockey. Speaking of where he wants to
- 10:53go, 16 years after LeBron first made his decision to take his
- 10:59talents to South Beach, the NBA all time points leader has
- 11:04another choice to make this offseason.
- 11:06That choice, according to Bleacher Report, Eric Pincus,
- 11:10yes, Pincus as they wanted to pronounce his name.
- 11:14I no pink SI don't know, I'm sorry.
- 11:17Pink S is that if LeBron James returns next year for his 24th
- 11:23NBA season, it would only be for either the Warriors, the
- 11:28Cavaliers, or yes, your New York Knicks.
- 11:33In the article, Pincus mentions how LeBron has always wanted to
- 11:37play with Steph Curry and Draymond Green, who probably
- 11:40won't be there next year, and that the Warriors would be
- 11:44willing to take LeBron if he takes a drastic pay cut.
- 11:49The Cavaliers as well would take take back LeBron on a pay cut
- 11:54and James Harden would likely opt into his player option in
- 11:59order to stay with Cleveland if LeBron comes back home the New
- 12:05York Knicks. LeBron has ties to both the head
- 12:09coach Mike Brown from his first run with the Cavaliers early in
- 12:14his career, while Leon Rose was Lebron's agent before he signed
- 12:19with Rich Paul and Clutch Sports.
- 12:23This report came a day after LeBron LeBron James took shots
- 12:28at Luka Doncic for making the wrong play at the end of the
- 12:33Lakers loss to the Magic when he thought Luca should have shot
- 12:37the 3.3 point shot instead of passing it to him with under 7
- 12:43seconds left as LeBron bricked the potential game winner.
- 12:48Reports have also mentioned the Lakers are all in on bringing
- 12:52back Austin Reeves on a five year Max contract and are
- 12:56expected to be in the sweepstakes for Giannis.
- 13:01Yeah, not going to happen, especially if LeBron doesn't
- 13:04return to LA. While the Knicks are not the
- 13:07favorites in Vegas for James service services this offseason,
- 13:14that's the Cavaliers currently. This is a new report, so I think
- 13:19obviously the Cavaliers are currently the the favorites of
- 13:22getting LeBron. Especially with the Knicks
- 13:25having the most room of the three teams to afford James May
- 13:30change those odds in the very near future.
- 13:36Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, I am not going to attack
- 13:42LeBron James. No, I'm not going to do it.
- 13:45I will not do it because there's a very good chance that he could
- 13:50be a New York Knick. Here's the facts.
- 13:55If the next if the Knicks decide to make this move and bring
- 13:59LeBron James here to New York, Giannis is definitely got to be
- 14:04the big picture. They have to bring Giannis here
- 14:07before this happens because their big move cannot be LeBron
- 14:12James, especially if they fail to go to the Finals or even win
- 14:16an NBA championship this year. The way the East is really
- 14:19performed, Detroit right now looks like they are the
- 14:23favorites are coming out of the East because of what they've
- 14:25done to the Knicks and how dominant they have been in the
- 14:28Eastern Conference all season long.
- 14:32LeBron does not make the Knicks a contender.
- 14:37He doesn't. So for fans to sit here and say,
- 14:41oh, we can land LeBron James, We can get one of the greatest
- 14:44basketball players to come and play in New York, we never got
- 14:46Michael, we never got Magic, we never got Bird.
- 14:49We'll get James. That would be a mistake.
- 14:56Now if Giannis comes and James is an add on piece to this team
- 15:01with Jaylen Bronson and Mikhail Bridges or whoever OG and Nanobi
- 15:04or however way they design this team, if it fails to win a
- 15:09championship with Karl Anthony Towns and OG and Nanobi, Mikhail
- 15:12Bridges and Jaylen Bronson and so on.
- 15:14Well then it would make a lot of sense to bring James in to be a
- 15:19compilational, a compilation prize to Giannis.
- 15:26But here's the problem. LeBron James went to the Lakers.
- 15:31He won 1 championship in a year that it was a bubble year.
- 15:36He didn't play in front of fans and no fans can go and watch
- 15:39those games. All the teams had to stay in a
- 15:42specific area. It wasn't to me a real
- 15:49championship here. It was a short season and it was
- 15:54like the 99 champion Spurs. And I'm not saying you can't
- 16:00give LeBron and Anthony Davis any credit.
- 16:02They won a championship. They had to go through the
- 16:06Western Conference and they had to beat the best in East.
- 16:11But LeBron has not done what he came to the LA and the Lakers to
- 16:15do, and that was to tie Kobe and maybe tie or even break Michael
- 16:21Jordan's championship record. Now he will never catch Bill
- 16:27Russell. He won't.
- 16:30So we're not going to even try to even come to that thought or
- 16:33even argue that thought. But the fact here is LeBron has
- 16:40not fulfilled his spot with the Lakers.
- 16:42As a matter of fact, him and Jeanie Buss obviously don't like
- 16:45each other. The Buss family were not very
- 16:48high on LeBron James since he's come here now.
- 16:52They brought him here because he was the biggest star in the NBA
- 16:54and the LA Lakers always bring those big stars at the tail end
- 16:58of their careers or in the somewhat prime of their careers.
- 17:02They got lucky with Luka Dodgic. Why?
- 17:06It makes sense with the Cleveland Cavaliers.
- 17:11He would be going home this year and he played his final game
- 17:16possibly in Cleveland. They had banners and they had
- 17:22videos and and LeBron James was tearing and crying.
- 17:26And maybe this will drive him to go home and try to win his fifth
- 17:30title with the Cleveland Cavaliers and end this God
- 17:35forsaking drought that he's had with the Lakers for the last, I
- 17:39don't know, five years. This guy deserves a lot of the
- 17:44accolades he does. He is great.
- 17:48I've always said he was the second best basketball player in
- 17:50the NBA. I've always said it in history,
- 17:53there is nobody besides Michael Jordan by the time this guy
- 17:57retires that you can even argue is better than LeBron James.
- 18:00But Michael Jordan, because he's going to have 90% of the
- 18:04records. He's done everything he was
- 18:07supposed to do coming out of high school.
- 18:09He had the the name the King. Now Felix, Felix Hernandez, he
- 18:14got the name the King. It didn't work out for him.
- 18:16Henrik Lundquist, he was the King.
- 18:20He was. He was a good player.
- 18:21Never won, never won with the Rangers.
- 18:24You got to win. If you're the King, and LeBron
- 18:27James has won four titles, say whatever you want.
- 18:31He went to South Beach to band together with Dwyane Wade and
- 18:34Chris Bosh. Maybe he did.
- 18:36You want to say that? You want to cry about it.
- 18:38He did what he did. So did Kevin Durant.
- 18:42He went to Golden State. So if you want to attack the 2
- 18:46greatest players of this era, well then attack them.
- 18:49They had the band together with superstar players to win.
- 18:52But he did go back home. He did win in Cleveland.
- 18:55He did band again with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love.
- 18:58He did. And then he left again.
- 19:01So the Cleveland Cavaliers make a lot of sense.
- 19:03Donovan Mitchell, James Harden. I don't.
- 19:05I would love to see how James Harden would work with LeBron
- 19:08James. Remember, it's one ball being
- 19:11shared. They have the pieces.
- 19:13Jared Allen has looked really, really good.
- 19:15Honestly, Jared Allen's been one of the best big men in the
- 19:18league for the last three weeks and they have the pieces.
- 19:24If LeBron James goes there to compete to win a title, I don't
- 19:29know if LeBron is going to make a big difference, but he'll make
- 19:31a difference even if he's coming off the bench.
- 19:33Who would have thought that LeBron James at the tail end of
- 19:36his career could be a guy coming off the bench a six man?
- 19:40But why not? There were a lot of great
- 19:42players at the tail end of their career that became six men and
- 19:46been really big parts of those teams.
- 19:49Mano Ginobili was always a six man.
- 19:51Really, he was the greatest six man.
- 19:53Look at Speedy Yawn. He's a little lost over here,
- 19:57but Mano Ginobili was one of the greatest six man of all time.
- 20:00Jamal Crawford was a great six man when he was a starting
- 20:03player when he came from the Chicago Bulls and went to the
- 20:05Knicks and he jumped around with different teams and one six man
- 20:08of the year. James Harden was a six man
- 20:10before he became a starter with the Houston Rockets.
- 20:16LeBron James would be a good piece to a championship team if
- 20:21he was coming off the bench. It would make a lot of sense
- 20:24with the Cleveland Cavaliers. The Golden State Warriors, not
- 20:28so much. Jimmy Bucket still has another
- 20:31year on his contract. He's coming back from a knee
- 20:35injury. He's going nowhere.
- 20:38He he's, there's nobody that's going to buy or even buy into a
- 20:44$52 million contract that he is owed.
- 20:47There's no way anybody's going to do that.
- 20:49He's making a lot of money and he's at the tail end.
- 20:53He's really at the tail end of his career.
- 20:55The guy can't stay healthy. He's got knee problems, he's got
- 20:57ankle problems. He's going nowhere.
- 21:00Draymond Green makes a lot of sense on why they can move him
- 21:03or they don't want to. They don't need him there
- 21:05anymore. They can move him to another
- 21:07team. Steph Curry wants to end his
- 21:09career with the the Golden State Warriors.
- 21:11And I know LeBron has always wanted to play with Steph.
- 21:14These guys have a love fest with with one another.
- 21:17So it would make sense that the Golden State Warriors would be
- 21:20in on LeBron James. But is that good for the
- 21:23organization? If this organization is trying
- 21:26to get younger, is it worth bringing a 42 year old X
- 21:30superstar player to a team that's probably going to use you
- 21:34as a bench player? He's turned into, he's a better
- 21:37version, a lot better version of Carmelo Anthony.
- 21:41That's what he is. When Carmelo Anthony left the
- 21:44Knicks, he was a bench player. He was coming off the bench when
- 21:48he went to the Lakers. He was like a 6th man, 7th man.
- 21:52LeBron would be a better six or seven man coming off the bench
- 21:55for the the lake for the Lakers if he if he they decided to to
- 21:58bring him back the Cavaliers or even the Golden State Warriors
- 22:03as a starter. I wouldn't do that.
- 22:05And how does this work when it comes to Golden State where the
- 22:09way they like moving the ball, I just, it doesn't make sense.
- 22:14And, and the way the Golden State right the, the Golden
- 22:16State Warriors like to run their, their offense through
- 22:19that the similar triangle offense that Phil Jackson like
- 22:22to run. It wouldn't make sense.
- 22:25The only thing that makes sense would be the Cavaliers.
- 22:30But Knick fans, don't be surprised if Giannis gets traded
- 22:36to the Knicks if LeBron James's name is going to be in the mix
- 22:41after that. Because if Giannis agrees to go
- 22:46to New York, which I believe he had a chance to go to Miami at
- 22:51the trade deadline, he did not want to go there because they
- 22:54don't have a team that can win. And he had a chance to go to the
- 22:57Timberwolves. And he realized I can't win with
- 23:00Anthony Edwards because look at the talent Anthony Edwards had
- 23:04in their primes, Jimmy Butler, Karl Anthony Towns, he, he
- 23:12couldn't get over. And then he took a team all the
- 23:14way to the finals and lost, got crushed.
- 23:20So I know you sit here and a lot of Knick fans are like LeBron
- 23:24James. Could you imagine #23 wearing a
- 23:26Knicks jersey? No, I cannot.
- 23:30It will not help this team and the way this team wants to run
- 23:33their next year. If they run, if they're running
- 23:37done this year and they get knocked out in the playoffs, you
- 23:39know that it's a make or break year for Jalen Brunson, who's
- 23:42going to be expecting a long term deal from the New York
- 23:46Knicks. He he came out on a magazine and
- 23:51well, in a particular magazine and said that he wants the
- 23:55Knicks to take care of them. He wants to make a super Max
- 24:00contract. He took less money to come here
- 24:03and sign sign with the Knicks from Dallas.
- 24:06And he took less for his extension recently to try to win
- 24:09with the team that they have to bring in Mikhail Bridges and
- 24:12make the trade for Mikhail Bridges and then sign them and
- 24:14then OG on Anobi. He took less for these guys to
- 24:18get their contracts. But by the time Jaylen Bronson
- 24:24becomes a free agent, he's going to be about 33 years old.
- 24:28To sign him to a five year deal would be really detrimental to
- 24:34this organization moving forward.
- 24:35And Leon Rose is not going to put himself in that situation.
- 24:38It would be 3 years worth about $180 million.
- 24:43Now, if that, if that makes him happy that that deal could make
- 24:48it done, that could get that could get done in in three
- 24:50years. It just doesn't make.
- 24:53It's not feasible for the Knicks to, even though contracts would
- 24:57say that if LeBron James comes to the New York Knicks, if they
- 25:02can make it work as well as they could, it wouldn't fit the
- 25:08culture of this team. Even if Mike Brown is here.
- 25:13He knows Mike Brown's offense. He knows Mike Brown's defense.
- 25:16But Mike Brown has been transitioning as a coach.
- 25:19Remember when he left the Cavaliers?
- 25:21He went to San Antonio and then he went to Golden State.
- 25:28So he's learned a different style of pace and offense that
- 25:33he did not run with the Cleveland Cavaliers.
- 25:35As a matter of fact, if you watch the Cleveland Cavaliers
- 25:38games when Mike Brown was coaching a young LeBron James,
- 25:42they were complete, completely different.
- 25:44If you think as a Knick fan, LeBron could be a fit, then
- 25:50maybe you take a flyer. Well, the fact that LeBron James
- 25:53mentioned the Knicks scares me because he never mentioned the
- 25:57Knicks at any point when he was making a decision on where he
- 26:01was going from Miami, Chicago and all the teams he interviewed
- 26:05with. As much as he interviewed, he
- 26:07gave the Knicks an opportunity to pitch it.
- 26:09He was never going to the Knicks.
- 26:10That was never in the cards of LeBron James.
- 26:13So why? Why does LeBron James want to
- 26:16come to New York? To try to make amends with the
- 26:21team that he never wanted to play for.
- 26:24And why would the fans appreciate LeBron James to come
- 26:28here and Root hit root for him at the tail end of his career
- 26:33when the Knicks are ready? A good Eastern Conference team,
- 26:36A competitive, elite Eastern Conference team.
- 26:39What would make sense to Leon Rose?
- 26:42I don't care if he was his agent, he screwed Leon Rose.
- 26:45He left them to go to Paul and Clutch Sports.
- 26:51Why would Leon Rose want to bring this man in when this team
- 26:55and this roster has won enough and has been in a good
- 26:59situation? Now if they fell full short from
- 27:02an Eastern Conference finals this year, then I can see why
- 27:07they would be crazy to not go after Giannis in the offseason
- 27:12to make it. Maybe make these these
- 27:15ridiculous moves to bring in a LeBron James and another
- 27:17superstar to come and play with Jalen Bronson and bring in some
- 27:21old players that have won in different places.
- 27:24It doesn't make sense. It never worked.
- 27:27Go ask the Lakers. Do we remember when they brought
- 27:30in Karl Malone and Gary Payton to play with Shaquille O'Neal?
- 27:34Was it Shaquille O'Neal? Was Shaquille O'Neal there?
- 27:36I'm sorry Shaquille was not there.
- 27:38It was Gary Payton, Karl Malone playing with I think Odom and
- 27:44and Kobe. It didn't work.
- 27:46It just say that it didn't work. It never worked.
- 27:52Carmelon was at the tail end of his career, The mailman, the
- 27:57Glove. Peyton was at the tail end of
- 28:00his career. It didn't work.
- 28:04So I I'm not saying LeBron James isn't better than those two guys
- 28:07cuz he is still at this time, LeBron James is averaging 2322
- 28:11points a game. He's still averaging a high clip
- 28:14of assists and a high clip of rebounds.
- 28:16This guy is still I would say a top 25 player in the league,
- 28:19maybe top 30. I would say 25 S as a as a Knick
- 28:26fan or as a Knick, I guess, enthusiast.
- 28:33How would this work? How does this make sense for the
- 28:37New York Knicks to bring this man in?
- 28:39And by the way, LeBron James coming out and saying this, this
- 28:42isn't somebody being a fool to believe why he wants to come
- 28:45here. He's got a brand.
- 28:47LeBron is building a brand after basketball.
- 28:51And why not come to the Mecca? You're in LA, you played in
- 28:54Miami, two very big cities, popular cities for brands and
- 29:00building brands. And now come to New York and be
- 29:03the ultimate brand because this New York is the ultimate brand
- 29:07place in the world. Wall Street, everything is here.
- 29:14Madison Square Garden is the the Mecca of basketball.
- 29:19Why not come to New York? Kobe didn't do it.
- 29:21Jordan didn't do it. So James would do it just to
- 29:24appease the fans that couldn't stand up for years coming here
- 29:29and beating down the New York Knicks.
- 29:33I do not want LeBron James here in New York.
- 29:36Not because I dislike him. I don't like him politically.
- 29:40I don't want to hear his political thoughts.
- 29:42I don't want to hear anything but basketball.
- 29:44I respect his game. I respect who he is as a player.
- 29:49I respect what he's done for basketball.
- 29:53I do not respect what he will do to this team.
- 29:57He does not help this team. As far as the future is
- 30:02concerned, the Knicks need to get younger.
- 30:05They have traded away youth to bring in, I guess, a
- 30:12championship competitive team. We don't know what they are.
- 30:17We have not seen them get to that finals where you could play
- 30:20the best in the West. We saw him at the Easter
- 30:23Conference finals and they failed.
- 30:24They look like a bunch of scrubs last year against Halliburton
- 30:27and the Indiana Pacers, that they were better on paper.
- 30:30Then they can't beat Detroit in a regular season.
- 30:35Does that mean that they can't beat Detroit in the playoffs?
- 30:38No, but the fact that LeBron James made the Knicks a
- 30:43destination, Yeah. You want to pat yourself on the
- 30:45back. You want to give yourself a
- 30:48thought that LeBron James wants to come to New York, and maybe
- 30:54we've made this a destination for players to want to come and
- 30:57play now. No, this has nothing to do with
- 31:03the Knicks as an organization and as an organization that
- 31:07knows what they're doing. No, this has something to do
- 31:10with LeBron James and branding. Just branding.
- 31:13Yeah, it's one of those basketball moves that is
- 31:16outdated to think it's going to happen.
- 31:18You talk about the Lakers failing with that big three,
- 31:21big, big three towards the end of Shaq's career there before he
- 31:23went to Miami. What about the one with Steve
- 31:26Nash, Kobe and Dwight Howard that epically failed too?
- 31:28All the ones with the Nets, the two with the Nets that epically
- 31:31failed as well. It's not the way you build
- 31:33anymore. And teams are getting younger,
- 31:35championship players are getting younger.
- 31:37And sometimes you could see it. I'm not saying it's like right
- 31:39away where these curves are happening, but OK, See their
- 31:42best player young last year, the Celtics, their two best players
- 31:46young. It's two players and decent
- 31:48depth is the way you win now. And obviously defense, you need
- 31:51to eat a good defense, which the Knicks have had to most of the
- 31:53year. Getting LeBron is not going to
- 31:56make that pace of the game any faster, which is what the Knicks
- 31:59needed to do because the Knicks under Tom Thibodeau last year,
- 32:02very slow. And that was a big reason they
- 32:04got rid of Thibodeau because they couldn't handle the
- 32:06transition game when they played the Indiana Pacers.
- 32:08Because you're right, the Knicks had more talent on paper than
- 32:11the Pacers did. But Rick Carlisle was able to
- 32:13play fast. That younger Pacers team was
- 32:15ever to play, able to play fast and catch the Knicks out of
- 32:18transition, hitting a lot of threes.
- 32:20That was the problem the Knicks had, not the fact that they
- 32:23needed, oh, LeBron James to step up.
- 32:25The Knicks have the core to make it work, regardless of Giannis
- 32:28right now, this year, Karl Anthony Towns, will he perform
- 32:31in the playoffs? That's another question.
- 32:32His defense was really bad last year.
- 32:34They have to get that to help out.
- 32:35That's why they got all those bench pieces at the trade
- 32:37deadline. They have all the support
- 32:39defense to help them inside with Jaylen Bronson and what?
- 32:42But that's not that's not the story here, speedy.
- 32:45You're going on what what the what the Knicks did at the trade
- 32:48deadline. We're talking about next year.
- 32:50We're talking about where this team will be next year, when
- 32:54we're going to have to figure out if this team is built to win
- 32:58a championship this year or they go another route.
- 33:02They go another way. And LeBron James will be in the
- 33:04mix next year if this team fails to do what they're expected to
- 33:08do. And that's go play in the
- 33:09Finals. You could say here, you want to
- 33:11say Carl Anthony talents, McHale Bridges, OG Ananopi.
- 33:14We all know that these guys show up in the games when they want
- 33:17to and they disappear in games when they have to, OK?
- 33:20That's the way the Knicks have played week in and week out in
- 33:24certain aspects of the playoffs last year.
- 33:27And you sit here and you're you're you're telling us what
- 33:28everybody knows, Speedy. We we don't want to hear what
- 33:31you thought or what these guys are supposed to do.
- 33:33We don't want to hear what Leon Rose thought that this team was
- 33:36going to be when he made those trades, which with Jose Alvaro
- 33:42or bringing in free agents or guys that we got waved from
- 33:46other organizations and other teams.
- 33:48The fact here is they're built to win now.
- 33:51If they fail to win now, they're going to look at elsewhere.
- 33:54They're going to look at other positions and other places where
- 33:57they think that bringing in a veteran player here and bringing
- 34:00in a veteran here and sugar coating it and maybe putting
- 34:03some salt and pepper to it, it's going to give them a chance to
- 34:05win. It doesn't work that way.
- 34:07It's never worked that way. Ask anybody that is built
- 34:11championship teams teams you look at the Chicago Bulls of the
- 34:1490s, they brought in Dennis Rodman in the prime of his
- 34:17career. Yeah, the Spurs couldn't handle
- 34:20we knew Detroit couldn't handle him at the tail end but and and
- 34:23he was practically done. But Michael Jordan and Scottie
- 34:26Pippen believe that they can get this guy to play their way.
- 34:30And what did it do? It brought they brought in
- 34:33multiple championships because that worked.
- 34:35It doesn't always work and it all it had to take a very unique
- 34:40individual and Co coach like Phil Jackson and the way he was
- 34:45to bring in a Dennis Rodman and control his antics on and off
- 34:48the basketball court. Now LeBron James is, I wouldn't
- 34:52say as bad as Dennis Rodman, but his antics has hurt him on and
- 34:56off the basketball court because it's not about basketball
- 34:59anymore. It's about branding.
- 35:01And that's the whole point, Speedy, you're losing the point
- 35:03here. It's branding.
- 35:05It's not comparing what these players are and what these
- 35:08players are going to bring to the New York Knicks.
- 35:10And here's the thing, I would rather LeBron James go to Golden
- 35:14State and Cleveland because I don't want to deal with the
- 35:17craziness with the media because it's not going to be about the
- 35:20team, it's going to be about LeBron James.
- 35:21Nobody cares. Everybody's going to forget that
- 35:23Giannis is there because LeBron James is going to take the
- 35:25media. He's going to take the media on.
- 35:27He's going to be the face of the media because it's the King.
- 35:30It's the great LeBron James. When he speaks, everybody's got
- 35:33a bow. I don't want it here in New
- 35:35York. You forget that.
- 35:37And that's where your problem is, Speedy.
- 35:39You're a young kid wondering, hey, what is it going to take to
- 35:42bring LeBron James here? If LeBron going to be a missing
- 35:45piece for this team to finally win a championship since 1973?
- 35:49The answer is no. So you sit here and you tell us,
- 35:52go to the details. We knew about this and we knew
- 35:56about Oh Janet and we and we know about Michael Brizzy and it
- 36:00it doesn't work. You can tell me whatever you
- 36:03want until I'm blue in the face. You're garbage.
- 36:05And that's the problem with analytics.
- 36:07Analytics don't sell me if you're a Knicks fan.
- 36:10It just tells me that the Knicks would do something like this to
- 36:13ruin those one thing that they've built.
- 36:16Leon Rose would not be stupid enough to bring this man in here
- 36:19for the New York Knicks to just compile old dump and garbage
- 36:24that we've seen over the years that other organizations have
- 36:27done. No, it doesn't fit his style.
- 36:28We talked about it last week with the Cavs.
- 36:30Like the Cavs, only we're going to be willing to do it on a pay
- 36:32cut as well. And Golden State, they're kind
- 36:34of stuck on having to do another pay cut.
- 36:35And no, LeBron is, I agree, not a missing piece by any means.
- 36:38Yannis is the missing piece if the Knicks don't win the Finals
- 36:41this year or don't win the East this year and regress.
- 36:44LeBron is the opposite where of what the Knicks need right now
- 36:47because they have enough of those types of players.
- 36:49The Knicks neither either elite defenders inside or shooters.
- 36:53LeBron at this point in his career is not going to be that
- 36:55guy. And you're right, they can't be
- 36:56enamored by the Flash. It is a James Dolan type thing
- 36:59that he cannot be enamored by. And Leon Rose is smart enough
- 37:02where I think to override. It And that's where you went.
- 37:03That's where you have it wrong. It is not James Dolan's team
- 37:06anymore. This is Leon Rose's team.
- 37:09That's where you forget and Chris Drury is why the New York
- 37:14Rangers are falling apart because you know who still has
- 37:18the back end and and is a part of the decision making?
- 37:21It is James Dolan. Do you see the problem right now
- 37:24with the different teams in Madison Square Garden?
- 37:26One team can't find or buy a win or is trying to lose to try to
- 37:30get prospects and another team finally has it right.
- 37:34Worldwide West and Leon Rose are controlling this team,
- 37:38controlling the roster and put this team in a position where it
- 37:41is today. So you sit here and you say, if
- 37:47you're a Knick fan right now and you're trying to figure out what
- 37:50this team is, well then you don't know the Knicks and you're
- 37:52not following. Shout out to Quran, shout out to
- 37:55the New York Knick podcast out there that are out there trying
- 37:58to promote what the Knicks are trying to do and what the Knicks
- 38:01are have been over the last couple of years.
- 38:02But I'm going to tell you this right now, if the Knicks bring
- 38:06in LeBron James, it is nothing but a stunt to bring publicity
- 38:11here and media. I do not want him here.
- 38:14It's not going to help. It's not going to benefit this
- 38:16team. It's not going to benefit the
- 38:17growth and and honestly draw anybody wanted to come to play
- 38:21here because nobody wants to play with the LA Lakers because
- 38:23they don't want to deal with LeBron James.
- 38:25Fish before you go. Last ditch effort for the cat,
- 38:27for the Warriors, I think is what you're especially looking
- 38:29at. If he wants Draymond Green to
- 38:31stay there, he's going to have to take a massive take on
- 38:33because they still have. Jimmy, it's not going to.
- 38:34Happen Jimmy Butler under contract?
- 38:35Good luck trying to figure that out.
- 38:36Mike Dunleavy, Great GM, you are over there.
- 38:39And then the Cavs. I agree with you.
- 38:40I don't know how it would work with James Harden there, unless
- 38:42James Harden comes off the bench.
- 38:43That's the only thing that would make sense to me.
- 38:45But James Harden is so egomaniac, he's not going to.
- 38:47Want to do that? Will be coming off the bench.
- 38:49Yeah, I just don't see either one of them having the throw
- 38:52their egos away to make that kind of thing work.
- 38:54I can't see them unless they get rid of James Harden doing that
- 38:57kind of thing and making it. Work, I think, you know, you got
- 38:59to really think about Lebron's ability to be a the same price
- 39:03as a mid level guy. That's what they're saying.
- 39:06If he takes a mid level contract, that's way he's so
- 39:09much better than anybody at that price.
- 39:12So you have to think about it. And if he wants to come to New
- 39:15York at that price, you'd be kind of stupid to say no.
- 39:20And the basketball side of it. Now the other part of it, Errol,
- 39:23that's a whole different story. And I completely agree with you.
- 39:26The fact that headache, the media circus, all that nonsense,
- 39:30taking away a little bit from what Jaylen Brunson has done,
- 39:33you know, get bringing his attention to it a little bit.
- 39:36I don't think it's the answer, but to me, like if that guy
- 39:40could be a point forward at age in his 24th NBA season and you
- 39:46know, give you playoff minutes, finish games for you.
- 39:49He doesn't have to play more than 28 minutes a game.
- 39:52He can rotate in when they need to go offense.
- 39:55You know, they can put OG in his position on defense and OG can
- 39:59move down a spot and have LeBron out there finding him in the
- 40:02corner. I like that idea, allowing
- 40:05Jaylen Bronson to playoff ball, getting some kind of point
- 40:07forward. The LeBron circus is problem,
- 40:10but the Knicks problem isn't LeBron.
- 40:11It's the fact that Karl Anthony Towns doesn't have a consistent
- 40:15shot, doesn't play defense, and he plays the same position as
- 40:17Mitch Robinson. That's the Knicks problem.
- 40:20The problem will be LeBron James.
- 40:22If LeBron James comes here, that will be their problem.
- 40:25There's no doubt in my mind the media is going to swarm to him.
- 40:28They're not going to worry about the Knicks losing or the Knicks
- 40:31going into the playoffs as a 5 or 4 seed because they just not
- 40:35playing good basketball. They're going to worry about
- 40:36what LeBron James thinks. And all LeBron needs to do is go
- 40:39out there and speak and throw his teammates under the bus,
- 40:43just like he's done with the Lakers over the last couple of
- 40:45weeks. You saw that he did not show up
- 40:47to Luka Doncic when he signed that extension in the offseason.
- 40:51Everybody else did but LeBron James.
- 40:53Do you think that was a coincidence?
- 40:55Come on, guys, there is no coincidence on that.
- 40:57He did not want Luka Doncic. That's what it seems.
- 41:00And the only people that wanted Luka Doncic there was Jeannie
- 41:03Buss and the organization, because they need another
- 41:06superstar they can build their team around.
- 41:08And LeBron obviously thought that he still had a little bit
- 41:11left in him that he can take it, he can take another team to a
- 41:14championship, which he can't. And I'm telling you right now,
- 41:17off the ball or nothing, you do not want LeBron James on that
- 41:21basketball court because LeBron James will be the leader.
- 41:23LeBron James will be the captain.
- 41:25We go from the captain, yes, Jalen Brunson, where everybody
- 41:29respects him and looks up to, to the guy that is the greatest
- 41:33basketball player of this era. And when he walks into the
- 41:36locker room, it's going to be LeBron, LeBron, LeBron, not
- 41:39Brunson, not Towns if he's still there, or OG if he's still
- 41:43there. And McHale Bridges.
- 41:45You do not want that as a New York Knicks fan.
- 41:47You do not want this publicity and this crazy.
- 41:51And by the way, I am not the biggest Stephen A Smith fan, but
- 41:56could you imagine LeBron James going to New York?
- 42:01And Stephen A Smith is the biggest New York Knick fan.
- 42:03He stands by his Knicks, even though he didn't stand by him
- 42:06recently with the Detroit Pistons whipping their ass and
- 42:08saying that the Knicks are done. They're not going through
- 42:11Detroit, which that just shows you how much Stephen A Smith
- 42:13knows. But that's that's just a whole
- 42:15nother take. The fact here is, could you
- 42:18imagine LeBron James going to his basketball team, his Mecca,
- 42:23his place of where he loves to go, Madison Square Garden to
- 42:28watch the guy he despises? It won't work, Ladies and
- 42:32gentlemen. This wouldn't work.
- 42:34Of course Fish would sit there and say LeBron James.
- 42:37LeBron James in a Nick Jersey 23.
- 42:39I mean, I mean, that has a little, little spice to it,
- 42:42Yeah. If they only got to pay him 8
- 42:44million though, Errol, if it's only like 8 million, I don't
- 42:47want to LeBron. And that's all it's they're
- 42:49saying that everyone else only has around like 7 in cap space
- 42:53and the Knicks can get him at that mid level exception and
- 42:57give him more money than he can get anywhere else.
- 43:00And he doesn't have to start. You got to think about it, man.
- 43:05You have to. He's the greatest, you know,
- 43:08scorer, you know, all time point, not scorer, but greatest
- 43:10all time point leader, second greatest player we talk about
- 43:13all the time behind Michael Jordan of all time.
- 43:16If you put him lower than second or third, you're crazy.
- 43:19That's how important he is to the game as well.
- 43:22Everyone that's playing now grew up watching him play, you know,
- 43:26even Kevin Durant, you know, it's wild what he's doing.
- 43:30You got to think about it. It also is going to put butts in
- 43:33seats. I do not I.
- 43:35Buy more merch. Listen, the Knicks don't need
- 43:37butts in a seat. They sell out every single game.
- 43:39Merch. The Knicks sell one of the most
- 43:42most popular jersey. I'm just saying.
- 43:44Out there, I mean, their merch is, listen, I buy a lot of merch
- 43:47for the New York Knicks. I buy a lot.
- 43:49Of Would you buy a LeBron James Knicks jersey?
- 43:51Never never. You wouldn't buy a LeBron James
- 43:54Knicks never, if he was on it. Not a.
- 43:55Chance in hell? You who has all these jerseys
- 43:57and they win a champion? First of all, first.
- 43:59You wouldn't buy that first. No.
- 44:00First, it's LJA. First of all, first of all,
- 44:03everybody knows I, I named the association, the LeBron James
- 44:07Association. So no, I would never wear a
- 44:10LeBron James jersey with the Knick colors.
- 44:12Never. I've never I don't really buy
- 44:15jerseys with other players names on the back of it.
- 44:17I put my name on the back of it. So just so everybody knows, I,
- 44:21it's very rare that I do that. But as far as merch is concerned
- 44:24and what this team's going to bring in when it comes to
- 44:27filling out seats, they don't need to fill out any seats.
- 44:29This team has sold out for the next five years.
- 44:33It doesn't matter who's playing on this roster.
- 44:36They sell out games. It's a corporation place.
- 44:38Madison Square Garden is built on corporations, not fans.
- 44:43Let's be honest here. It's about millionaires and how
- 44:46many people are going to buy those seats for hundreds of
- 44:49thousands of dollars? That's the facts, Jack.
- 44:52I'm not going to sit here and beat around the Bush and anybody
- 44:55that's going to sit here and tell me that LeBron James will
- 44:58make or break this New York Knick team and we could get it
- 45:00for $8 million and that makes sense.
- 45:03Well, then you're trying to sell me something that's a pipe dream
- 45:06because to me, that is not going to bring a championship home to
- 45:10this New York Knick team. New York is built on scrappy
- 45:14players. You want to bring somebody back,
- 45:16bring Dante Diva, Chenzo back. That's what you bring back.
- 45:19You bring back. You want to bring Giannis here,
- 45:22then you move on and you have to fill out and try to figure out
- 45:24how contracts work. Then you trade away pieces and
- 45:27you bring the scrappy players on that stand for what the New York
- 45:30Knicks have always been scrappy team.
- 45:32The Pat Riley teams, which I have a story up on the Worldwide
- 45:35Sports Radio Network, The scrappiness and those defenses,
- 45:38the Jeff Van Gundy teams. That's what I want to see.
- 45:41I want to see a scrappy Nick team that's going to bring a
- 45:44dominant force on the boards, on the offensive and defensive side
- 45:48of the boards. And they're not going to show
- 45:50that they give up at the end of the game, even if they look like
- 45:52they're going to lose, which we've seen a couple of times
- 45:55this year against teams I don't want to mention.
- 45:58All right, that's my that's my take on it.
- 46:02I am so done with people and fans coming out here and telling
- 46:07me, wow, wouldn't LeBron James look good with the the blue,
- 46:11white and orange? No, I do not want to see LeBron
- 46:15James wearing my colors. No, you didn't want to come here
- 46:18when you were on top of the world.
- 46:19Why the hell do we want you when you're on the bottom?
- 46:23I don't want you. I don't want to sell that.
- 46:26And fans, if you think the New York Knicks as an organization
- 46:30in Leon Rose would do something like this just because he has a
- 46:34relationship with him on and off the court, well, then you don't
- 46:37know Leon Rose. Because the only, the only move
- 46:40that he made that made sense because he got Carl Anthony
- 46:43Towns at the deal that he got now.
- 46:45Carl Anthony Towns was his guy. He was the agent of Carl Anthony
- 46:50Towns, but it worked because Karl Anthony Towns was traded
- 46:56for Dante Divicenzo and and Julius Randall.
- 47:00You got one of the top five centers in the league for two
- 47:04good players, but not anywhere close to the the type of player
- 47:08Karl Anthony Towns. Karl Anthony Towns has been an
- 47:10All Star since he's come to the Knicks.
- 47:12He's been an all NBA player since he's come to the Knicks.
- 47:15The problem with Karl Anthony Towns is he doesn't show up in
- 47:18the big game. He doesn't play any defense.
- 47:20Yes, Quran, he doesn't play any defense.
- 47:22Sorry, he don't I don't care what what you think and you're
- 47:26looking at it and I love you Quran.
- 47:28You know I love you, man. You know, he tries Errol, he's
- 47:30just not very good at it, is the problem.
- 47:33Like it's not an effort thing with him.
- 47:34He just looks. Look, his body language is not
- 47:38my favorite. Everyone knows he has these
- 47:40weird poses after shots. It always gets caught on camera.
- 47:44I put a lot of them up in the graphics when we get a chance
- 47:46to. It's a lot of fun.
- 47:47We circle jerk. But again, the guy has a skill
- 47:51set that nobody else has in the NBA.
- 47:53Who else is doing what he's doing shooting three?
- 47:56I mean, his three-point numbers are down a little bit this year.
- 47:58And I would say that's probably why the Knicks aren't doing
- 48:00better than they are in the record right now because he was
- 48:03lights out last year from three. He's down about 5% Errol from
- 48:06like he was over 40s that are on 36 right now.
- 48:09He's streaky this year. You know it is.
- 48:11And that's a problem if your defense is mid at best, which is
- 48:15basically who he is. And against better competition,
- 48:18he's not stopping nobody. He never, he can never stop
- 48:21Giannis. We've seen that every time they
- 48:23face. Off dude, there are people on
- 48:24TikTok right now playing like one-on-one with LeBron James.
- 48:28They have these like AI guys that are LeBron James and
- 48:31they're doing it. It's so funny because they're
- 48:34making fun of LeBron James's defense that, you know, a street
- 48:38baller can go right past them. No, I don't believe that I I
- 48:40think he's a lot better than a street baller, but it just shows
- 48:44you how many jokes are out there about LeBron James's defense
- 48:47that he has holes in his defense.
- 48:49Now I'm telling you right now, if you bring him in this team is
- 48:53the the New York Knicks are a good team defensive.
- 48:56You know their prowess as a team defensive team.
- 49:00I I mean is good. It it's only going to make him
- 49:03worse and and OG on Anobi if you're training him for Giannis
- 49:07and you're going to have to maybe move Mikhail because you
- 49:09think that this guy's going to fit better with playing with
- 49:11Giannis and LeBron. It's never going to work.
- 49:14You're losing the pieces that you helped build to made that
- 49:17made this team a foundation in the NBAII.
- 49:20Just it's a big no big no for me.
- 49:22Stay the hell away. From me.
- 49:23So there's a salary cap thing that we got to talk about too,
- 49:26and the whole Rich Paul possibly getting rid of LeBron as a
- 49:30client because he's not going to take this player option.
- 49:33It's $55 million sitting on the table that LeBron can just say I
- 49:38accept this player option, There's nothing you could do
- 49:41about it, Lakers, and you got to pay me 50 something million.
- 49:45In which case the Knicks have cats crazy contract and if they
- 49:48want to get off a cat, they could do that switch and LeBron
- 49:50retires the next year and then they don't have to worry about
- 49:53that contract and they can get some picks or something from the
- 49:55Lakers. I don't think I would do that.
- 49:58I wouldn't do that. They don't have to look.
- 49:59They don't have to. The bigger thing is that's
- 50:01crazy. Leon Rose would be the natural
- 50:04guy LeBron would go to if he leaves Rich Paul as an agent and
- 50:09the fact that Leon Rose can obviously market going forwards
- 50:13with LeBron, if they have a falling out, why wouldn't he
- 50:16jump in? Well, first of all, Leon Rose.
- 50:19Leon Rose cannot be his. Agent, but you know what I mean.
- 50:22His agency will represent LeBron.
- 50:26I first of all, Rich Paul is never going to leave LeBron
- 50:30James, LeBron James's side because Rich Paul is the reason
- 50:33why the Rich Paul is where he is today is because of LeBron
- 50:36James. I don't care if LeBron James
- 50:37takes less Rich Paul and LeBron James.
- 50:40Rich Paul's country. I mean company that he works for
- 50:43the clutch Sports is run really by LeBron James.
- 50:47So you sit here and you're saying, well, he'll leave Rich
- 50:50Paul. He's not leaving clutch sports
- 50:53because that's LeBron James's brand.
- 50:55So I'm but I'm sorry, that's not going to happen.
- 50:58This story this, this back and forth that that LeBron James
- 51:02came out and it's a good story for Knick fans to talk about.
- 51:06But there's no way in hell you're going to sell me right
- 51:09now that just because LeBron James put the Knicks name up
- 51:12there on the list, that the Knicks are going to be the team
- 51:15that he's going to choose because the Knicks don't want
- 51:17them. The Knicks don't want him.
- 51:20So I'm telling you right now that's a no for me and a no for
- 51:24everybody else. And if you decide at any thought
- 51:27in the offseason, well, let me see.
- 51:29I'll be like speedy, you know, you know, Yeah.
- 51:36That's that's exactly what I think about the Knicks.
- 51:39No, no, no, no. I don't need to think about it.
- 51:43The answer is no. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
- 51:46we got a new segment. We call this concrete jungle.
- 51:51Welcome to the jungle. We got fun and games.
- 51:54You know where you. Are.
- 51:57In the jungle. Baby welcome.
- 51:59I'm trying to put tiger bomb. On this jungle's nuts.
- 52:01To the concrete jungle carousel. We got the concrete jungle
- 52:13carousel. We're going to go around all of
- 52:17the sports in the biz right now, starting off with the only,
- 52:21well, actually going to start off with basketball.
- 52:24We will get the hockey a little bit later, but here we go.
- 52:26Nixon Nets starting it off the Knicks stumble out of the All
- 52:30Star break. You're just mentioned in some of
- 52:32it, so we'll start there. They got blown out by the
- 52:34Pistons at home 1/26 1:11 in their first game out of the
- 52:37break. Kate Cunningham monster game.
- 52:41You know, there's a mini story out there, Errol, that it could
- 52:44be Luca. Luca.
- 52:46Well, Luca too actually, but Jokic and Shay might not be able
- 52:50to play enough games to be eligible for the MVP and there's
- 52:54a lot of people putting money on Kade right now while he's still
- 52:57around 6 to 1 to get the MVP because he would be the next guy
- 53:01if they're ineligible. Cade's killing it right now.
- 53:03He's killed the Knicks every time.
- 53:04The Knicks have gotten swept by the Pistons this season. 3 O in
- 53:09the regular season, they had a huge comeback against the
- 53:12Rockets. After that they were down 18
- 53:13down as much as 25 at one point in that game.
- 53:16Storm back. I showed some of the highlights
- 53:18of it while you in the last segment.
- 53:20Jalen Brunson had a clutch. I'm just doing Jalen Brunson
- 53:23things. Clutch win.
- 53:24But then they didn't show up against Cleveland.
- 53:27Looks like James Harden broke his hand in that game.
- 53:29But it looks I think he's day-to-day.
- 53:31He's actually not. It's just a fracture.
- 53:32Squeeze the cheese, he's going. To be out.
- 53:35But the Knicks did not shoot well.
- 53:37Everyone had a bad shooting day, Brunson included.
- 53:40And Cat is just not put in the ball in the whole arrow.
- 53:44I disagree with you. Cat before the Cavaliers game
- 53:47was playing good basketball. He was average 20, almost 20 and
- 53:5010. So I disagree with you.
- 53:52I think Cat has played better since he came back from the All
- 53:55Star break. Here's the problem right now
- 53:57with the Knicks. These guys are being a lot of
- 54:00the players are inconsistent. Mikhail Bridges is inconsistent.
- 54:03He had 19 shots against Cleveland.
- 54:05Cavaliers only hit five of them. If you're inconsistent, you're
- 54:08not going to find ways to win against teams that are just as
- 54:11good as you, especially with the Cavaliers in their bench.
- 54:14You need to play up to your team's competitive nature.
- 54:18And the Knicks haven't against the talented teams that they,
- 54:21no, they played well against Houston, but they, they're,
- 54:23they're the really, Detroit has dogged them.
- 54:26And now you, you can tell that some of their competition is
- 54:30playing higher and better than the New York Knicks are.
- 54:33The Knicks have to play, I think more, more.
- 54:36They have to be more defensively sound.
- 54:38They got to be better on the boards offensively, and they got
- 54:40to do more on the defensive side of the ball in the most
- 54:43important parts of the game. At the tail end of the game,
- 54:46especially in the fourth quarter with 5 minutes left, the, the
- 54:49Knicks are giving too many easy buckets, too many easy threes.
- 54:53This team has been one of the best 3 point shooter teams at 3
- 54:56point teams in in all of the NBA.
- 54:58Offensively they're probably the best offensive team in the NBA
- 55:02and even in defense they're ranked I think 8th or 9th right
- 55:05now in all of the NBA. But here's the thing, how many
- 55:08points do they give up in the tail end of games when it comes
- 55:12down to the Minnie and the gritty?
- 55:13That's the problem with the Knicks.
- 55:15It has nothing to do with Carl Anthony.
- 55:16He needs to show up in the big game.
- 55:18I disagree with you. I think Carl has played better
- 55:21since the All Star break since the Detroit game, so I disagree.
- 55:24The last two years the Knicks have been one of the few teams
- 55:26in the NBA that have been both top ten and offensive and
- 55:28defensive efficiency and it just needs to be a little more
- 55:31consistent with the three-point shooting especially.
- 55:32That was a big thing that hurt them against the Cavs.
- 55:34OG Anobe He's been mostly efficient this year but has had
- 55:37his lows. But British, like you said, is
- 55:38the main one. I think that has to really get
- 55:40going. Towns yeah, he'll have his lows,
- 55:42but I agree with you mostly. Still good after the All Star
- 55:44break. Just got to fix that defense and
- 55:45the Knicks have to just get this depth to sync up again.
- 55:47He's never going to fix his defense because he's not a
- 55:50defensive player and I don't want to hear it from Knick fans
- 55:53crying about it. If you want a defensive player,
- 55:55you trade him in the offseason, you bring in Giannis.
- 55:57That's the only way you're going to fix the problem they have.
- 56:00If you want him as a starter or make Mitchell Robertson the
- 56:03starter and and make Carl Anthony Towns the four, make
- 56:06Carl 4, make Mitch 5. That's the way I go.
- 56:10I mean, that's the only way I would go if that's the case.
- 56:13But they're worried about time. They're worried about some.
- 56:15See what they do? They actually played the the
- 56:17Bulls in that span 2 and murdered them.
- 56:19But the Bulls have given up in general on this traded away
- 56:23Vujovic recently. You're right, he's he's done
- 56:26better. But you know, in the two games
- 56:27that they lost to the number one and I guess their other
- 56:30competition besides the Celtics and the East, 13 pointer in both
- 56:34games. This guy needs to be putting up
- 56:37the three for them if they're going to be good offensively.
- 56:40It's just, you know, he's really important.
- 56:42Here's the thing. They undersell how important he
- 56:45is. Here's the thing, I think they
- 56:46need to play more to Karl Anthony Towns and less to Jalen
- 56:51Bronson in certain games. If you get Karl Anthony Towns
- 56:53more involved in the game. And I want to give a shout out
- 56:55to Koran because that's what we were talking about on his show,
- 57:00The Blue and Orange Brunch. We went back and forth and we
- 57:03believe, and I agree with Koran cold heartedly that they have to
- 57:08run their offense, Drew Karl Anthony Towns if they want to be
- 57:12a championship team. They cannot play that isolation
- 57:16basketball all game long with Jaylen Bronson.
- 57:18They have to. Every time they bring Karl
- 57:20Anthony Towns and make him the pin of the offense, you can see
- 57:24that they're a different team. That's all I'm saying.
- 57:27More Karl Anthony Towns, less of Jaylen Bronson.
- 57:30All right, let's move on to baseball offseason news.
- 57:34Starting to get into the pitchers and catchers we've got,
- 57:37that is long gone. We are now up to a whole bunch
- 57:40of preseason games before we get into the Yankees and Mets.
- 57:44This number 1 prospect the Pirates have, I don't know if
- 57:47you saw the home runs, he had two bombs.
- 57:50This kids crazy Connor Griffin. Connor with AK, pay attention to
- 57:53that name. But starting off Yankees, Mets
- 57:55guys, the Yankees have this DH that they traded for Derek Jeter
- 58:01gave them to us. His name is Giancarlo Stanton
- 58:04Errol. He can't open a bag of chips
- 58:06without pain. He has really, really bad
- 58:10bilateral elbow weakness. Still 2 years into this
- 58:15apparently debilitating condition that he thinks, and
- 58:19apparently is because he swings the bat too damn hard, he says
- 58:22he's going to tough it out. He's still eyeing 162 games
- 58:25season. He's never played more than 150
- 58:27with the Yankees, was his first season with them.
- 58:30It's obvious he decided not to have surgery to clean out the
- 58:33tendons in his elbows. Probably wouldn't have been
- 58:36great coming back from that. I guess he's playing out the
- 58:38string and that's going to call it a day.
- 58:40Well, the string needs to be cut, ladies and gentlemen, I
- 58:44honestly don't believe Giancarlo Stanton is going to play more
- 58:48than 100 games this year. His elbows are really, really
- 58:50bad all season long. Back and forth on the ILII just
- 58:54can't see it. I know he wants to believe that
- 58:56he's the same player and same young player, but even even when
- 59:00the Yankees went to the World Series a couple of years ago
- 59:02when he took off his hat when they they got in the AL East and
- 59:06and they won the AL East against the Cleveland Guardians.
- 59:09He looks older now. He's got the body, body of all
- 59:12like AI don't even know like some supermodel, but he his his
- 59:17body's breaking down when you playing 162 games and you're as
- 59:20big as him and as strong as him and he swings the bat as fast
- 59:24and as hard as him. Eventually stuff start to go on
- 59:28your body and it and his elbows are going it just he, the way he
- 59:31works out. I don't know if anybody's
- 59:32watched Gian Carlo Stanton's workouts.
- 59:34This guy used to bench 300 lbs like it was nothing.
- 59:38I'm telling you this guy is, he's built like a, you know,
- 59:42like a Hercules. That's what he is.
- 59:44But he's he doesn't play like it anymore.
- 59:46I'd be surprised if he plays more than 100 games this year.
- 59:50I'll be surprised. I I'd say this if he does it,
- 59:53he's worth every penny the Yankees give him because they're
- 59:55going to need him in the playoffs.
- 59:56But it's not going to happen. I think he's on drugs and
- 59:59whatever he believes, he thinks. Things he's going to do, he must
- 1:00:01be drinking or smoking something because it's not going to
- 1:00:04happen. And there's no reason for the
- 1:00:05Yankees to have to push that either.
- 1:00:07They have enough guys that could slide into the DH area to make
- 1:00:09sure he's healthy for the playoffs.
- 1:00:10We always said all the time he's the Yankees second best playoff
- 1:00:13player consistently and sometimes their number one
- 1:00:15playoff player. I I think he's been their best
- 1:00:17playoff, him and Gleber Torres, he's no longer with the
- 1:00:20organization And and, and finally Aaron Judge showed up in
- 1:00:23a big playoff run but fell short because they couldn't get out of
- 1:00:26semis the divisional game. So.
- 1:00:28Especially like with the other key players at the Yankees had
- 1:00:31dipping at points last year. Bellinger was pretty bad in that
- 1:00:33Blue Jays series. Your boy Jazz jism really
- 1:00:36disappeared in that Blue Jays series.
- 1:00:37Outside of the one game they have to.
- 1:00:39Are you be able to trust the kids and make it work?
- 1:00:41And if you want to make it work, have him have a guy like
- 1:00:43standing around you to take a lot of pictures.
- 1:00:45I have always liked John Carlo, Stan, ever since he came here.
- 1:00:48The Yankees got him for nothing. Nothing.
- 1:00:50Derek Jeter wrapped them up with a nice little bow and said,
- 1:00:53here, you can have them, OK? He gave the Yankees one of the
- 1:00:57best power hitters in baseball at the time, and the year before
- 1:01:00he was the National League MVP, but he has not been the same
- 1:01:03player in five years in a regular season.
- 1:01:07You want to set him up for the playoffs, set him up right.
- 1:01:09Don't play him more than 80 games.
- 1:01:11Make sure he's 100% healthy for the playoffs.
- 1:01:14For him to come out and say that he wants to play or he thinks he
- 1:01:16believes with his bad elbows, he's going to play 162 games.
- 1:01:19He's only selling you a bag of balls, and I mean goodies.
- 1:01:24Bag of balls. That's about it.
- 1:01:26That's it, ladies and gentlemen, because that is not selling to
- 1:01:29me. It's offset to anybody's belief
- 1:01:32that he is going to play next year more than 100 games.
- 1:01:35A goodies bag of balls packed in with Pokémon balls and aliens
- 1:01:38and. Whatever it is, whatever kids
- 1:01:40like to play with. I mean, not those kind of balls,
- 1:01:43but you know what? The Yankees are going to retire
- 1:01:44CC Sabathia's number on September 26th.
- 1:01:48It's going to be the first guy since Paul O'Neill had #21
- 1:01:51retired in 2022 with the Yankees, in 11 seasons, he had a
- 1:01:57381 ERA, 127 WHIP, but also in the playoffs, 34297 strikeouts.
- 1:02:05He had 1700 strikeouts with the Yankees.
- 1:02:08Obviously Hall of Famer, left-hander, just incredible
- 1:02:12pitcher for the Yankees, obviously World Series champion.
- 1:02:14Yankee, that's all I'm going to say.
- 1:02:16He was a he was a monster. And he, he came from Milwaukee.
- 1:02:20He had all those perfect games. And I mean, CC stood for a lot
- 1:02:24for the New York Yankees. And yes, he took two big
- 1:02:27contracts from the Yankees, got paid a lot of money.
- 1:02:29But even with all the drinking problems and all the problems
- 1:02:33that he's had in the past and, and even weight problems, he
- 1:02:36stood for everything. And, and then when he had to
- 1:02:38redefine his pitching motion and and become a more finesse
- 1:02:42pitcher, not a power pitcher, he still accomplish a lot doing and
- 1:02:46playing that way. So I, I mean, CC really stood
- 1:02:49for a lot for the Yankees and I, I think it's well deserved.
- 1:02:52I think it's long overdue and I think the the man's going to be
- 1:02:57placed there and and remembered as one of the greatest Yankee
- 1:03:00pitchers of all time. Yeah, definitely one of the best
- 1:03:02ones when you look at starting consistency in this era.
- 1:03:04Yeah, he had a couple years, like you were saying, when he
- 1:03:06had those drinking issues, but recreated himself in that 2015
- 1:03:09season. I think especially when the
- 1:03:10Yankees were supposed to be one of the worst teams on paper in
- 1:03:13that tough division and they still made the playoffs.
- 1:03:15A lot of that had to do with him.
- 1:03:16And again, real first four years, peak years for the
- 1:03:19Yankees when they've had trouble signing these other starting
- 1:03:21pitchers in the past. He definitely will deserve it.
- 1:03:23Yes Mikey C he's a Hall of Famer easily.
- 1:03:26Not like what you. Were thinking years ago Mariano
- 1:03:28Rivera helped him with the cut fastball and even Andy Pettitte
- 1:03:32was teaching him some pitches that helping him with his change
- 1:03:34up. I mean, CC really redefined the
- 1:03:37way he pitched at the tail end of his career.
- 1:03:39Not many pitchers could do that. CC did.
- 1:03:41You're a power pitcher and you're throwing over 100 mph and
- 1:03:44then change everything because you can't throw over 9293 and,
- 1:03:48and completely change your motion and, and, and over one
- 1:03:51season and learn how to pitch. It says a lot about who he is as
- 1:03:55a player. Very well deserved.
- 1:03:56Congratulations to CC Sabathia. He tried everything.
- 1:04:00Remember the year he lost like 75 lbs out of nowhere it seemed
- 1:04:03like and then he it thought that was going to make him better.
- 1:04:06He didn't have the fastball anymore when he lost the he was
- 1:04:08like thrown in the 80s and he couldn't do anything.
- 1:04:11Like his numbers. I just read them.
- 1:04:12They don't sound that great outside of the strikeouts with
- 1:04:15the Yankees because, you know, he got lit up for a couple of
- 1:04:18years there. It was real tough.
- 1:04:20But you know, there's only a handful of shoulder problems
- 1:04:22that figure out that well, shoulder problem, you know, the
- 1:04:25personal problems. But you know, the guy fought
- 1:04:29through it, came back absolute Hall of Famer.
- 1:04:31Congrats to him again, September 26th if you're trying to go to
- 1:04:34that game. And let's talk about the Mets.
- 1:04:37There's a real interesting prospect that the Mets have who
- 1:04:40might end up with the team breaking out of camp.
- 1:04:43It's their top prospect, Carson Benz.
- 1:04:45He's the 16th overall prospect in baseball.
- 1:04:49He had a 282 average, 24 Steelers, 15 homers last year at
- 1:04:54three different levels of the minors.
- 1:04:57He's trying to get right field job competing with a who's who
- 1:05:02of maybe who's not. We got Mike Tauchman, Brett
- 1:05:06Beatty, who I guess is a right fielder now.
- 1:05:09Tyrone Taylor and MJ Melendez are all competing for that spot
- 1:05:13on the roster. But this kid had a three hit
- 1:05:16game the other day. I just seems to be ready, which
- 1:05:21is pretty wild. And it could be someone that the
- 1:05:24Mets could get a real shot in the arm from this year.
- 1:05:26All right. First of all, if you know
- 1:05:28anything about Stearns and David Stearns, what he likes to do,
- 1:05:32he's not going to call a guy up in the beginning of the season.
- 1:05:35They want full control of his arbitrations.
- 1:05:38So that is not going to happen. That is not going to happen.
- 1:05:41They're going to have, obviously, if he has a good
- 1:05:43spring training, they'll probably send him back down for
- 1:05:46a couple of weeks until they they they have a chance to bring
- 1:05:49him up and it doesn't affect their arbitration and he could
- 1:05:52come up. This is the same thing what what
- 1:05:54Spencer Jones was doing for the Yankees in spring training.
- 1:05:57He looked unbelievable last year in spring training.
- 1:05:59Did the Yankees call him up? No.
- 1:06:01And, and by the way, for all those Spencer Jones haters or
- 1:06:05whatever Brian Cashman said about him, Spencer Jones hit 277
- 1:06:09last year. He had 35 home runs and eighty
- 1:06:11RBI's. By the way, is better than
- 1:06:13bench. Maybe not it's batting average,
- 1:06:15but power numbers were better than bench.
- 1:06:18And I know bench is, is like a top 15 prospect and Spencer
- 1:06:23Jones is not even a top 100. That doesn't matter to me.
- 1:06:26I, I'm just looking at the, the, the facts.
- 1:06:29And the facts is if the, if the Mets want to bring him up early,
- 1:06:33that is not something that David Sterns likes to do.
- 1:06:35It will throw you off and and realize is that David Stearns is
- 1:06:38on the hot seat and he has to do this because it's going to do it
- 1:06:42in his way or his performance will probably save his job.
- 1:06:46That's the only reason why he would bring him up, because
- 1:06:48these moves that he made in the offseason may just shake your
- 1:06:51head. Yeah, Beatty is the one I think
- 1:06:53I think deserves the best shot first, even though Fish, like
- 1:06:55you're saying, it's not his natural position in his corner
- 1:06:57round field spot, but his offense is going to bring a lot
- 1:06:59more. You don't need the defense in
- 1:07:01center field like you did last year with Tyrone Taylor that
- 1:07:03couldn't hit. He hit in the clutch, which was
- 1:07:05good, but he really disappeared offensively the second-half of
- 1:07:07the year. Mike Tauchman, like, yeah, those
- 1:07:09two good years with the Yankees and like, one Goodyear somewhere
- 1:07:11else. Yeah, that's not really good to
- 1:07:12trust. Melendez is interesting because
- 1:07:14he had that Goodyear two years ago at Kansas City but really
- 1:07:16fell off offensively. But I agree with you, Errol.
- 1:07:18I wouldn't rush him up right now.
- 1:07:19Don't. Put extra.
- 1:07:20Pressure on the kid right now, they'd have to try to.
- 1:07:22Do a lot. Did Stearns ever do that in
- 1:07:25Milwaukee? He never did.
- 1:07:26Ever did. He is not going to change his
- 1:07:29ways because he the only way he does if he's really on the hot
- 1:07:34seat and he needs to rush his kid up because they got to pull
- 1:07:37lightning in a bottle and maybe this guy turns into a star and
- 1:07:40he looks like, oh, look, it's David Stearns.
- 1:07:42The man's a genius, an absolute genius.
- 1:07:45Yeah, it's not going to be because of him necessarily that
- 1:07:47they do it. I think it's also it would just
- 1:07:49be all right if April and maybe early May they have a really
- 1:07:52rough month of offensive outfield production from those
- 1:07:54right fields guys. Okay, yeah, give him a shot at
- 1:07:56that point. He's supposed to be this, a
- 1:07:58dynamic defensive outfielder too, in addition to stolen
- 1:08:01bases. But again, you don't want to
- 1:08:02rush these guys up. The Mets, I know Nelson
- 1:08:04Figueroa, when we had them on last year, was praising the way
- 1:08:06they were developing. My indoors.
- 1:08:08It's still been still raw in some areas.
- 1:08:11I think it's been mostly good, but not as good as it should be.
- 1:08:14Thumb up my ass. All right, all right, let's talk
- 1:08:18some football. There was a huge trade today.
- 1:08:20The Jets have made a big deal. The Jets traded edge rusher
- 1:08:26Jermaine Johnson to Titans for nose tackle to Vondre Sweat.
- 1:08:31Sweat's got two more years left on his rookie contract to a
- 1:08:33second round pick. It'll cost The Jets 1.7 million
- 1:08:37against their cap. It saves them 13.4 million
- 1:08:41against the cap. By trading Johnson in his fifth
- 1:08:43year option on his first round contract, he gets reunited with
- 1:08:48Bambi, Sala, Errol back in Tennessee.
- 1:08:54How do you like that steal for? The Jets.
- 1:08:57Well, I think it was a steal for The Jets.
- 1:08:59They get a nose tackle. They they've had problems
- 1:09:02stopping the run. This guy is going to be a big
- 1:09:04part of their run stopping game in the future.
- 1:09:06He's still a young player, has a lot to give to an Aaron Glenn
- 1:09:11defence or a future of another defence if Aaron Glenn doesn't
- 1:09:15work out over there because they have control of him.
- 1:09:18And Jermaine Johnson was going to get traded at the trade
- 1:09:20deadline last year if they were going to get the pieces or get
- 1:09:22what they were asking for. So they were looking to move
- 1:09:25Jermaine Johnson anyways. They didn't think that he was
- 1:09:27going to be a part of the future of this organization, at least
- 1:09:30with Aaron Glenn. I like Jermaine, I like what he
- 1:09:33said. Go check out on his Twitter
- 1:09:35page. He thanked all the Jet fans and
- 1:09:37and New York fans for everything that they did for him.
- 1:09:39He class act very well deserved. But Sweat, I think he's going to
- 1:09:43fit very, very well in this defense.
- 1:09:46I think they're going to rebuild this defense and free agency
- 1:09:48this offseason. And now they save $13 million
- 1:09:52and they don't have to overpay a nose tackle, which they've had
- 1:09:55problems doing and finding over the last couple of years.
- 1:09:58This guy is under control for the next two years.
- 1:10:00Slam dunk. And by the way, Moji still, I
- 1:10:03mean, everybody's questioning if Moji is going to be the guy, the
- 1:10:05right guy. He's looked like a genius in the
- 1:10:08last three moves he's made. Yeah, this is a second round
- 1:10:10pick that a lot of people thought could have a first round
- 1:10:12pick, obviously had the DUI or whatever was that made him
- 1:10:16follow the second round. But he's big.
- 1:10:17He's six 366 lbs. This is the guy that still has
- 1:10:20two years left on his rookie deal.
- 1:10:21Young enough where The Jets are still going to get some level of
- 1:10:24upside. They cannot be a rotational
- 1:10:26defensive tackle type thing with somebody that isn't as good as
- 1:10:29Quinn Williams there. Now I see Quinn Williams
- 1:10:31probably not, but he's still has enough upside to make that kind
- 1:10:33of thing work on the Titans side.
- 1:10:35They definitely need some edge pressure too.
- 1:10:36I do like the move for them trying to get bring in a guy
- 1:10:38that Sal is familiar with. Fish.
- 1:10:39You want to know who their leading sack guy outside of
- 1:10:41Jeffrey Simmons was for an edge rusher last year?
- 1:10:43It was Giants legend Jihad Ward. Like that's how raw they are.
- 1:10:47You also know that Jermaine Johnson just came back from an
- 1:10:50Achilles tear and the only guy that came back from an Achilles
- 1:10:53tear playing the same position he had was that was successful
- 1:10:57is Suggs. I do not believe that this was a
- 1:11:00good move for Tennessee and I'm not taking shots at The Jets and
- 1:11:04I'm not taking shots at Jermaine Johnson.
- 1:11:06I love him. I hope nothing but the best for
- 1:11:08him. This is going to fail and it's
- 1:11:10going to fail quickly because Robert AKA Bambi Sala is going
- 1:11:13to fail as a head coach over there just like he did with the
- 1:11:16New York Jets. Yes, Fisher.
- 1:11:17And it's 8 kids, by the way. Eight kids.
- 1:11:20Fisher is true. Jeffrey Simmons led the team
- 1:11:22with 11 sacks. He was next with five.
- 1:11:25It's crazy. Look, you need a nose tackle to
- 1:11:27stop the run. It's something that they
- 1:11:29struggled with last year. I think it's a smart move.
- 1:11:31It's a thing they needed for an expiring contract that saves
- 1:11:34money. But Errol, they're sitting at #2
- 1:11:37in the draft. You get a choice now of Bane or
- 1:11:42Bailey because it's not really, you know, it's really going to
- 1:11:45be the, you want to play that 3-4, kind of like the heavier
- 1:11:49guy. You know, it's not going to be
- 1:11:50so much like an outside rusher. You know, they like to play
- 1:11:53Johnson doing both. I think you need to have that
- 1:11:55versatility in today's game. Bain certainly could be the guy.
- 1:12:00What do you think? After hearing about the combine
- 1:12:04today and what Reese did, I don't know now.
- 1:12:06I mean, he just read he just ran a 4.46 as a pass rusher.
- 1:12:12He put on some weight in the offseason and he believes he's
- 1:12:16an edge rusher. A lot of people now I'm reading
- 1:12:18that people think the way you look today, you look like
- 1:12:21Michael Parsons. So I don't know.
- 1:12:23Now, I think Reese is definitely involved in the conversation.
- 1:12:28Do The Jets make Reese, you know, a defensive end or an edge
- 1:12:32rusher? If he has that kind of speed and
- 1:12:35that kind of torque, maybe they go that way.
- 1:12:37But I I like Bane too. I love him.
- 1:12:39Bailey, I love any one of these guys would be a great fit for
- 1:12:42The Jets. I would rather Bane.
- 1:12:44I would. But what Reese is doing today at
- 1:12:48the combine and and really just looking like a super superstar,
- 1:12:54it's going to be hard to pass up on a guy that can change your
- 1:12:57defense for the better. Super versatile defense too,
- 1:12:59which is what I think Aaron Glenn tried to do in Detroit and
- 1:13:03tried to do with a lot of rotational defensive lineman
- 1:13:05outside of Hutchins. Remember when Hutchinson was
- 1:13:07hurt and he had that gruesome injury two years ago?
- 1:13:09We thought the Lions defense would fall off a Cliff.
- 1:13:11Speedy A 446. That is what wide receivers run.
- 1:13:18Wide receivers run and he's 2. Elite wide receivers, yes, run
- 1:13:22that kind. Of a speed and he ran that and
- 1:13:25he's he's a guy that's 230 something pounds I mean come on
- 1:13:28guys yeah you're you're that's. Ridiculous.
- 1:13:32So the issue with Reese, you know, do you take a guy at 2 and
- 1:13:35change his position? That's kind of wild.
- 1:13:37You know he's going to have. To put up the real matter.
- 1:13:39You know, if he's going to play that and he's at 2:30. 44630.
- 1:13:43I know, but if he's at 2:30, you get if.
- 1:13:46If one of those 300 something pound tackles gets their hands
- 1:13:48on you, you're going down. Dude, Michael Parsons got it.
- 1:13:51Michael Parsons, when he came in, when he came to the the
- 1:13:54Cowboys, he was like 2. 15 lbs. He was 233.
- 1:13:57To get 1015 lbs, he needs to get heavier, you know.
- 1:13:59But again, if you're going to play off ball, that's one thing.
- 1:14:02You know, I don't know what they'll do now.
- 1:14:03When he was in Ohio State, an interview Reese gave, he said
- 1:14:07that he was coached by Matt Patricia to be like Jamie
- 1:14:10Collins for the Patriots, who was an All pro for a few years
- 1:14:13back in that where he played inside linebacker.
- 1:14:16He rushed off the edge to play so versatile that you don't know
- 1:14:19where he's coming from. This guy would be like a Jamie
- 1:14:22Collins on steroids if he's running a 446 scheme.
- 1:14:26Versatility might excite some defensive coordinators, but
- 1:14:29speedy, you tell me. It reminds me of a linebacker
- 1:14:31named Isaiah Simmons also. Who I was a big chance at the
- 1:14:35time. Who I was a big fan of because
- 1:14:37he ran like a 446 or something at the combine and then he
- 1:14:40couldn't play because he didn't have a real position.
- 1:14:42I don't think Reese is like that.
- 1:14:44But at the same time, when you know Bane is probably going to
- 1:14:48be a freaking great player by the way, I wonder what choice
- 1:14:50you. Make.
- 1:14:51By the way, at the combine, he weighed in at 2:43.
- 1:14:54So I take back. That's pretty good.
- 1:14:56Yeah, he's 64, 243. That's what he weighed into
- 1:15:00today. So just so everybody knows, so.
- 1:15:03He might be going to. He's going to.
- 1:15:05Yeah, again, you can't be going to 6 foot 4 already with enough
- 1:15:08strength. And again, that kind of burst
- 1:15:10off the line of scrimmage is already going to be a big thing.
- 1:15:12That's. What they're saying right now, I
- 1:15:13think. You weighed in.
- 1:15:14The versatility is still going to be an added bonus, too,
- 1:15:16because that was the same thing last year with Abdul Carter and
- 1:15:18he went in the top three. And Reese is probably a better,
- 1:15:21like more explosive raw pass rusher than Carter is.
- 1:15:25I don't know, maybe more explosive.
- 1:15:26I think the Carter's got the speed, but let's talk about the
- 1:15:29other. Pass.
- 1:15:30You're going to tell me? The Carter answer going to get.
- 1:15:31Hold on, hold on, You think Carter?
- 1:15:33Carter is the fastest guy, yeah. He's not faster.
- 1:15:36He did not run. The league he led the league in,
- 1:15:40he didn't think he ran. He.
- 1:15:41Led the league in quick pressures I'm.
- 1:15:43Just. First off, 446, the 40 yard dash
- 1:15:46is not the measure. I'm just saying lineman.
- 1:15:48I'm just saying when you're looking at what he just did at
- 1:15:51the Combine, it's not. I'm sure the numbers for the
- 1:15:54thing he did is great too. I'm just saying like the the
- 1:15:58quick pressure thing with being able to beat your man, like they
- 1:16:02look at that as like the new like elite stat you want to see
- 1:16:04for a pass rusher is a rookie and not even playing like pass
- 1:16:08rusher for the whole season. Carter led the league.
- 1:16:11So there's there's like a lot. Giant fan.
- 1:16:14People excited. Giant fan, ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:16:17giant fan. You know, but you know who
- 1:16:19they're not excited about Errol. They're not excited about Cave
- 1:16:22on Thibodeau because Cave on Thibodeau, everyone's saying, is
- 1:16:25all but out the door from New York right now.
- 1:16:28Connor Hughes, SNY Giants are listening to trade offers for
- 1:16:32Thibodeau. He's almost guaranteed to be
- 1:16:35gone. They're going to restructure
- 1:16:36Dexter Lawrence's contract. Like I said, probably.
- 1:16:40They said it came out today that Dexter Lawrence fought an elbow
- 1:16:43injury last season that they kind of hushed up that he played
- 1:16:47through. But the Ravens, Jaguars,
- 1:16:49Packers, Lions and Bears are teams that have expressed a lot
- 1:16:53of interest in trading for Thibodeau.
- 1:16:55The ranges are a third round pick for Thibodeau would
- 1:16:59probably get the job done right off the bat.
- 1:17:02And some people are talking, you know, similarly, they should do
- 1:17:05a player for player deal just like The Jets just did for
- 1:17:08Jermaine Johnson and get a guy at a position maybe like middle
- 1:17:11linebacker that the Giants need. Maybe it's not as valuable as an
- 1:17:15edge rusher that they can kind of swing a similar deal.
- 1:17:17I'd never liked Kevon Thibodeau. I never liked him.
- 1:17:20I I I remember when he was drafted.
- 1:17:22He was Shane's first draft draft here wasn't wasn't even first
- 1:17:26draft here for Joe Shane, him and Neil.
- 1:17:29Evan Neil is not going to be a part of this organization moving
- 1:17:32forward and either is Kayvon Thibodeau.
- 1:17:34You got two guys that were drafted in the top ten.
- 1:17:37Look across look what he's doing right now.
- 1:17:39He just won a Super Bowl with Seattle, which by the way, the
- 1:17:42Giants could have drafted, but they decided to go with Evan
- 1:17:45Neil from Alabama. How did that work out?
- 1:17:48Kayvon Thibodeau, he's, he's been up and down as a New York
- 1:17:51Giant. He didn't fit there.
- 1:17:52He didn't fit the at any point with any of the defenses that he
- 1:17:56ran. The Giants are going to get a
- 1:17:57third round draft pick for me. I don't think for the New York
- 1:18:01Giants, Kayvon Thibodeau was ever going to be a part of this
- 1:18:04organization after his fourth year.
- 1:18:07I think that the Giants will move them.
- 1:18:09They'll get 1/3 or 1/4 for him. I don't think they get it any
- 1:18:11more than that. Maybe goes to another team.
- 1:18:14There are players that have gone.
- 1:18:16I mean, remember Farrier, he left the New York Jets, he went
- 1:18:19to see, he went to Pittsburgh and became an All All pro
- 1:18:24defensive lineman, a linebacker. Maybe.
- 1:18:28Maybe that is what happened to Kayvon Thibodeau.
- 1:18:30He goes somewhere else. How about there's a guy that
- 1:18:33played for The Jets and the Giants, went to Seattle and
- 1:18:35became an All pro Π type of player in Williams.
- 1:18:39Maybe that happens with him. He goes somewhere else and
- 1:18:42really develops his skill. I just don't think it's going or
- 1:18:45ever was going to work with New York.
- 1:18:47Too much pressure and too many bright lights and and really the
- 1:18:51fans being at him when he doesn't do anything in games and
- 1:18:53man, he disappears in games. Yeah, I always thought he had
- 1:18:57the raw talent to do that. But Fish, I was talking to you
- 1:18:59earlier about it like he'd never really developed that move set
- 1:19:01you would want for a guy that with his the level of
- 1:19:03athleticism. Now his problem at the beginning
- 1:19:05of his career, he was his power rushing game was not as strong
- 1:19:07and his run defense was struggled.
- 1:19:09Now run defense got good, but I think he still has issues with
- 1:19:11the move. Said he still has issues with
- 1:19:13the awareness. And now with Giants having like
- 1:19:15you said, Abdul Carter developing in the second-half of
- 1:19:17the year and obviously still having Brian Burns, it seems
- 1:19:19like cap space wise, he's definitely out the door.
- 1:19:21The other one I know you mentioned to me, Fish was
- 1:19:23Tremaine Edmonds A1 for one swap as a possibility.
- 1:19:26What about for the Packers? Quay Walker as an option of
- 1:19:29that, too, because he's got an expiring contract.
- 1:19:31They can't afford him. You, you giant fans, don't get
- 1:19:34it in your heads. If they bring in this guy or
- 1:19:37they bring in another guy, Walker's going to want money.
- 1:19:40That's one. And Dexter Loris, even if he
- 1:19:42takes somewhat of a pay cut, how much money do you think he's
- 1:19:45going to take? He's not.
- 1:19:46Maybe. Drops.
- 1:19:47It's not going to be a pay cut. They're going to give him a
- 1:19:49raise. They're going to give him an
- 1:19:50extension and lower the cap number this year and do the void
- 1:19:53year. They're not.
- 1:19:54They're not. That's what they're going to do.
- 1:19:56They're not going to lower his. They're not going to have a lot
- 1:19:57of money to work with, so I don't know where you think
- 1:20:00they're going to get Walker. He's going to want big bucks,
- 1:20:03so. Well, Thibodeau has a big
- 1:20:05contract, so if you move Thibodeau, then like it kind of
- 1:20:07matches up a little bit. What's his big contract?
- 1:20:10What's he making? It's the.
- 1:20:11Same 5th year option as what's his face Jermaine Johnson.
- 1:20:16I think he's a little higher because he was a top five pick,
- 1:20:18but he's 14. It's slightly higher, so it's
- 1:20:21like 1516, you know what I mean? So it's like one of those that
- 1:20:26you can kind of fit a better guy.
- 1:20:27But Speedy, I don't think they're going to do.
- 1:20:29I think more with what Errol's saying where they're going to
- 1:20:31try to save salary at this position, whether they draft
- 1:20:34somebody. I mean, the Texas Tech kid,
- 1:20:36Rodriguez, as they say, it's like a second, third round pick.
- 1:20:39I'd be very interested in that kid, to be honest with you.
- 1:20:42By the way, by the way, Dom says 14.7 according to spot track.
- 1:20:48So thank you, Dom. Yeah.
- 1:20:50So yeah, around 15,000,000 and it's a, it's a guy that I, I was
- 1:20:55excited about and he just, you're right, he just was more
- 1:20:58flash than anything. Else remember when the.
- 1:21:00Defensive ends were better. Remember when he got, he had
- 1:21:03those special made headsets when he, when he was coming into the
- 1:21:06league, it was just about when he was going to get drafted and
- 1:21:08he had these like I, I, I think it was Doctor Dre Beats, you
- 1:21:12know, headsets that he had made for him and his colors.
- 1:21:15I had just, I, I'm sorry, I never ever liked Thibodeau,
- 1:21:20never ever did coming from Oregon and we've how many Oregon
- 1:21:23guys that we've had on the show and they loved him and I, I told
- 1:21:27him straight out I'd like, I don't like him.
- 1:21:28I don't like, oh, you don't know how nice of a guy he is.
- 1:21:31I don't nice guys finish last, as we all know, I've been a nice
- 1:21:35guy and I've, I wouldn't say finish last, but I sometimes
- 1:21:39think that I have. So there you go, A.
- 1:21:41Little bit of hockey. So the Sabers played the Devils
- 1:21:45last night or is it 2 night things last night and it was a
- 1:21:49real like coming out party for Jack Hughes back home as the
- 1:21:53Olympic hero gave a speech to the crowd.
- 1:21:57I'm so proud and so happy. The men's and women's USA Hockey
- 1:21:59teams brought gold back to United States.
- 1:22:01He brought H Thompson off of the Buffalo bench.
- 1:22:05USA chance. It was really beautiful.
- 1:22:08Quinn was there too. Quinn Hughes in the stands with
- 1:22:11the family, you know, it's and she won the silver medal, as you
- 1:22:15know, when she was on the women's team back in 1992.
- 1:22:18It was one of the most phenomenal female hockey players
- 1:22:22in the late 80s, early 90s. So that's really the only thing
- 1:22:26I got for the for hockey for that side of it.
- 1:22:29Braden Schneider might be traded by the Rangers, probably because
- 1:22:33Drury doesn't want to re sign them because it wasn't his
- 1:22:35original pick. He's he's not having a great
- 1:22:38year, but no one is on that team.
- 1:22:39And the Islanders have some trade targets.
- 1:22:42Errol, it's you know, second-half of the season they
- 1:22:45got 69 points. They're third in the metro, one
- 1:22:48point behind the Penguins, 2 ahead of the capitals on the
- 1:22:51fringe right now of getting that seed.
- 1:22:54And then many reports are linking them to get in some
- 1:22:56scoring on the wing. The Blues have a couple of
- 1:22:59wingers, Thomas and Kairu. Predators have Bunting and
- 1:23:04Forsberg might be available, especially with Barry Trotz over
- 1:23:09there. There might be a connection
- 1:23:11between the the Old Islanders coach and the Canucks have a
- 1:23:15couple of wingers as well, a Bowser, Garland and a center.
- 1:23:19Peterson's probably available. Who was going to have the
- 1:23:22biggest contract of anyone the Islanders would try to add.
- 1:23:26First of all, congratulations to Jack Hughes and, and celebrating
- 1:23:30and what he said about the New Jersey fans and how he's happy
- 1:23:33to be there and playing for such great fans.
- 1:23:35And I I've been to New Jersey, I've been to a devil game, even
- 1:23:39though sometimes you think that it's a dead place to go.
- 1:23:41New Jersey has great devil fans. They they pack out those
- 1:23:45stadiums, they back out those games, especially when you have
- 1:23:48a young superstar like a Jack Hughes, they're just not going
- 1:23:51to do anything this year. Jack has been out for a
- 1:23:53significant amount of time this year, but it was fun to watch
- 1:23:56Tage Thompson, his family was there, the crowd going wild,
- 1:23:59everybody screaming USAUSA. It's a great feeling.
- 1:24:02I had goosebumps watching it. So I love Jack Hughes.
- 1:24:05I think he's a young stud. He's going to be the face of
- 1:24:07United States hockey for the next two, maybe even 3 Olympics.
- 1:24:13So it was fun to watch. It was really, really great to
- 1:24:16watch it. And, and shout out to Dave
- 1:24:18Thompson too. Love the kid.
- 1:24:20As far as the Rangers, I don't think they trade Schneider.
- 1:24:24It's more Vincent Trochick. That's what everybody keeps
- 1:24:27talking about. Trochick is the guy that
- 1:24:29everybody's going to be looking at and he's the, he's going to
- 1:24:32be a guy that the Rangers can cash in on.
- 1:24:34They can get a lot back for a guy like Vincent Trochick,
- 1:24:37Braden Schneider. I I think they hold on to him at
- 1:24:41least until the offseason and maybe they move him and maybe
- 1:24:45Chris Jury screws it up even more And, and trades a lot, a
- 1:24:48lot of other pieces in the offseason.
- 1:24:49It makes the Rangers look like an AHL team.
- 1:24:53I mean, he's been absolutely putrid as far as the Islanders
- 1:24:56are concerned. Remember this name and I think
- 1:24:59it's going to happen. It's Vancouver and it's
- 1:25:01Peterson. And I think Peterson makes a lot
- 1:25:04of sense. Him and Paul Horvat play
- 1:25:05together, play together over there with Vancouver.
- 1:25:08They played on the same line. Peterson has not been the same
- 1:25:12goal scorer since Bo Horvat has left.
- 1:25:15And this guy at one point of his career was a 4040 goal scorer.
- 1:25:19I think Peterson is a slam dunk for the Islanders.
- 1:25:22If you're willing to give up a first round draft pick for a guy
- 1:25:25that's under control. He's 27 years old and is he's
- 1:25:28still a young stud in this league that could be a star and
- 1:25:31an offensive option for the Islanders.
- 1:25:33It's Peterson. Stay away from the other.
- 1:25:35I like the Saint Louis Blue kids I but I think Peterson's the
- 1:25:39guy. It's the home run.
- 1:25:40Yeah. I worry about with two guys on
- 1:25:42that list is Forsberg and Robert Thomas with the Blues, both
- 1:25:45injury prone. I know you might get a discount
- 1:25:47with Barry Trotsview trade with Nashville, maybe go for bunting
- 1:25:49in that case, maybe the combination is Patterson, you
- 1:25:51get a center and then Bunting, you get a winger who's had some
- 1:25:54good scoring flashes in Toronto, did pretty well last year with
- 1:25:56Carolina, but not enough where they're able to keep him on the
- 1:25:58contract that he wanted. And now Nashville been
- 1:26:00disappointing. But yeah, I think he, Patterson,
- 1:26:02someone's kind of disinterested in Vancouver research.
- 1:26:05Who talked about that last year with JT Miller?
- 1:26:06We talked about it last year with a lot of other players.
- 1:26:08They just really falling off to rock bottom.
- 1:26:10I think it's a nice fresh start with the Islanders.
- 1:26:11The money make it work. One last thing to talk about,
- 1:26:15and that is the rematch between UConn and St.
- 1:26:18John's. That went very differently.
- 1:26:21Now, if you remember, St. John's upset UConn by about 8:00
- 1:26:24or 9 points. Not the same today.
- 1:26:27That game was at MSG. This game was embarrassing 72 to
- 1:26:3240. Rick Pitino's largest defeat
- 1:26:35since becoming St. John's head coach.
- 1:26:37They missed 12 straight shots in the first half and their last 24
- 1:26:41shots of the game, shooting 20% from the field.
- 1:26:47Tyrus Reed Junior 20 points for UConn with eight boards and six
- 1:26:50blocks. Caravan 14 points, four boards,
- 1:26:532 assists for the Huskies. Hoop happens.
- 1:26:57I'm not going to say it, I I want to say it, but it is
- 1:27:00absolute. Hold on.
- 1:27:02I'm trying to find a Nifan take on here.
- 1:27:04There it is. Ludu.
- 1:27:05That's it, there it is. Ludu.
- 1:27:08Here. Here's the facts.
- 1:27:10I I know it's a game that you want to you want to get back.
- 1:27:13I know Pitino after the game said his piece.
- 1:27:16My team didn't play well. I didn't coach well.
- 1:27:18We got to play better. That's every coach.
- 1:27:21Every great coach is going to say that and it's going to give
- 1:27:23you a take. This is a team that won 13 games
- 1:27:25in a row. It's one game.
- 1:27:28Yeah, UConn made him look like a, you know, a peewee basketball
- 1:27:32team. They did.
- 1:27:33And Danny Hurley won back-to-back national
- 1:27:36championships. And this guys one of the best
- 1:27:39coaches in all of college basketball and he's got a great
- 1:27:42recruiting class. This UConn team is one of the
- 1:27:45best in the nation. If they meet in at any point in
- 1:27:49the tournament, any point and they might win in the the
- 1:27:52championship game, they might meet meet in the Big East
- 1:27:56tournament, the Big East tournament.
- 1:27:57So they might see each other again.
- 1:27:59Best believe this won't happen again.
- 1:28:02Rick Pitino does not see games like this over and over and over
- 1:28:06again. This is a guy that's one of the
- 1:28:08best coaches in college basketball history.
- 1:28:11This is a born winner. He is going to make sure that
- 1:28:14his team feels it. I've seen what he did his first
- 1:28:16year. They had a camera.
- 1:28:17They had a St. John's, had a documentary for
- 1:28:22Paramount, had him following Pitino all last season.
- 1:28:26I think it was last season, the season before I think it was
- 1:28:28last season. And Pitino was very hard on his
- 1:28:30players last year, very, very hard on his players.
- 1:28:33This is a guy that knows how to push the right buttons.
- 1:28:37I believe St. John's will be fine.
- 1:28:39This is a wake up call for some of their players, veteran
- 1:28:42players, older players to play harder, play better and don't
- 1:28:46miss shots which they were missing a lot of them.
- 1:28:49Yeah, we talked about it a few weeks ago, weeks ago with Dan
- 1:28:50Hurley getting his wake up call on the defensive side where
- 1:28:53their defense was the stronger unit for the team.
- 1:28:55And now you look at Saint John's of this perspective, their
- 1:28:58defense has always been strong. Now they have 72 points to a
- 1:29:00team playing with a sense of urge with UConn.
- 1:29:03UConn had some Dodds recently. Even some of the games they won,
- 1:29:05they weren't playing as well as they should have.
- 1:29:06And all streaks for our mental coming in you.
- 1:29:08It's very hard in college basketball or really in any
- 1:29:11sport to just have an ongoing streak and have it sustainable
- 1:29:14into the Big East tournament and into the NCAA tournament, which
- 1:29:16obviously the bigger ceiling for a program like Saint John's.
- 1:29:18UConn has a championship pedigree.
- 1:29:20They showed it there. 40 points is alarming a lot.
- 1:29:23It's one game like they they're not going to let it drag on
- 1:29:26them. Pitino's too good of a coach.
- 1:29:27Jesus, I mean, could you fill the the lines as fast as you
- 1:29:31did? I mean a little bit slower.
- 1:29:34I, I didn't even understand what you were saying.
- 1:29:36Jesus, throw me off. All right, that's it for the
- 1:29:43carousel. We'll take a spin again next
- 1:29:45week. Well, we took a spin on that
- 1:29:47one, and I definitely spin backwards with Speedy's notion
- 1:29:51of words and presentation, of just spitting it out and making
- 1:29:55me sick to my stomach. I was like, it was like one of
- 1:29:58those, like, what do they call those, the horse things?
- 1:30:02What are the carousel? Yeah, the carousel.
- 1:30:04There it is. That's a normal point.
- 1:30:07Could you speak a little slower so I can understand?
- 1:30:09You Oh, we have another segment and a guest coming up.
- 1:30:11Well, oh, so that's what it is. So every time you speak, it's
- 1:30:18every time I hear you, I'm like, woof, woof, woof, woof.
- 1:30:21It's like, it's like a fastball coming at me and I'm not even
- 1:30:23seeing it, you know? Well, that's all I'm going to
- 1:30:26say. Anyways, We call this all righty
- 1:30:27then. All righty then.
- 1:30:32All righty. All.
- 1:30:35Righty then all. Righty then, that's my face.
- 1:30:38Right there. That's my face.
- 1:30:40Every time I hear Speedy just to talk, I'm like, I'm like, what
- 1:30:45the hell? What the hell you know.
- 1:30:48Jesus. Well, all righty then.
- 1:30:50Tonight we're just going to go into an article Errol wrote.
- 1:30:52This one is about the USA gold medal win in the Olympics.
- 1:30:58US snowed in. In Canada snowed out.
- 1:31:03Let's remove this and put up the article.
- 1:31:05USA wins gold while New York was getting turned into a Slurpee.
- 1:31:08Yes, if you're not living in New York, pay attention.
- 1:31:12Sunday morning, 8:10 AM on the East Coast, the last day of the
- 1:31:15Winter Olympics outside New York, the worst Blizzard of the
- 1:31:18year was actively trying to relink at my house to
- 1:31:21Connecticut. And inside history, Team USA
- 1:31:25just defeated Canada to win its first Olympic gold medal since
- 1:31:281980. Yes, the first one since the
- 1:31:31legendary Miracle on Ice. Now listen, I wasn't allowed to
- 1:31:34see Mike Eruzione and the boys shocked Soviets, Soviet Union
- 1:31:37men, national ice hockey team. But like every Red Blood in
- 1:31:41America hockey fan, I've studied that team the way people study
- 1:31:44the subruder film and this team that Bill Guerin put together.
- 1:31:47Youth, speed, hard and just enough swagger to walk into a
- 1:31:52gold medal game against Canada and say, respectfully, we've got
- 1:31:56this. No Crosby, no overtime trauma.
- 1:32:00And look, with all do love and do love and respect to Canadian
- 1:32:04royalty, No Sidney Crosby in the gold medal game, then no
- 1:32:08overtime flashbacks, no national PTSD, no Golden Bowl sequel.
- 1:32:13Just vibes, speedy. All right, we'll start.
- 1:32:18We got a mixed bag of comments here.
- 1:32:19We'll start with one that was kind of salty.
- 1:32:22This is Darth Devastator. US got very lucky in that game.
- 1:32:26Thank you, Darth Devastator, for devastating my thoughts of this
- 1:32:30gold medal. I'm lucky luck doesn't have
- 1:32:33anything to do with it. They had great gold ending and a
- 1:32:36guy stood on his head. Over the years Canada got lucky
- 1:32:40against us. I remember when Sidney Crosby
- 1:32:42won in overtime against Team USA in a goal that honestly was
- 1:32:47lucky. I mean, you're going to sit here
- 1:32:49and you're going to tell me that Canada hasn't been lucky over
- 1:32:51the years against Team USA? Luck has nothing to do with it.
- 1:32:54It's all about getting that goal, getting that opening pass
- 1:32:57and putting the ball, putting the puck right in the net.
- 1:33:00Luck had nothing to do with it. All right, one of the more
- 1:33:02positive comments, Math nerd 61. Can we give a shout out to Jack
- 1:33:05Greenski for his game? Winning assists, body control
- 1:33:08and sheer will to get to the puck to Jack Hughes Should be
- 1:33:10getting more praise than it's been getting.
- 1:33:12Thank you. What is it Math.
- 1:33:13Math Nerd 61. Math nerd, thank you for giving
- 1:33:16us your take. I agree where where in Ski was
- 1:33:19really really good throughout the tournament.
- 1:33:21He was the second best defenseman offensively on this
- 1:33:24roster, right behind Mr. Quinn Hughes, who was absolutely
- 1:33:29unbelievable. His brother gets the
- 1:33:31game-winning goal, scoring, you know, tribute, but Warinsky was
- 1:33:35a part of that. He he was the one that made that
- 1:33:37pass. He was the one that put his head
- 1:33:38up and got the pass right. Through the.
- 1:33:41Wickets of the defensive player and got it to Jack Hughes and
- 1:33:45pinned it right behind Mr. Pennington.
- 1:33:49Pinnington. I called him Pennington because
- 1:33:51he pinned it right behind him. I can't stand him.
- 1:33:54I couldn't stand him when I was over there at the Stanley Cup
- 1:33:55finals trying to interview him when they won the Stanley Cup
- 1:33:58with Saint Louis Blues. And I love the fact that he put
- 1:34:01the puck right behind him to win the gold.
- 1:34:03Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the amazing USA glory gold.
- 1:34:09I call it the glory hole goal. That's what I call.
- 1:34:12It I'm sure you do all right. This one, this one sounding like
- 1:34:15a Toronto Maple Leafs fan that's still living on 13 Stanley Cups
- 1:34:18that are all in the original 6 era.
- 1:34:19This is a lab tech. 7 gold medals to actually beat can.
- 1:34:23What was that? Again, 7 gold medals to actually
- 1:34:25be Canada. Yeah, 7 gold.
- 1:34:27Oh, so thank you, a lab for making me even more sicker.
- 1:34:31First of all, I, I don't want to sit here and say that Canada
- 1:34:35hasn't been the most dominant hockey program in professional
- 1:34:39in in the hockey world. We all know they are.
- 1:34:42Since the Soviet Union, it's been all Canada.
- 1:34:44All the greatest and the best hockey players come from Canada.
- 1:34:48And I'm sure Neil Smith would agree with me on that when he
- 1:34:50comes in, there's no question. But here's the facts.
- 1:34:54It doesn't matter how many they've won.
- 1:34:56It matters what they have lost. And yes, ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:35:002026, the gold medal winners of the men's Olympic hockey is not
- 1:35:07Canada. It's not Connor McDavid who
- 1:35:10hasn't won a gold medal and hasn't won a championship.
- 1:35:14Ladies and gentlemen, it goes to the one, It goes to the only the
- 1:35:18one we call us. All right, next one from a
- 1:35:21peanut brittle latte. An interesting 1.
- 1:35:23Connor Hollabucks is not just a goalie, he's the Secretary of
- 1:35:26Defense. And Peanut, thank you for giving
- 1:35:30us your shout out. We love the take.
- 1:35:32Secretary of Defense, I don't know about that, but I there's
- 1:35:36no doubt about it that what he did was amazing.
- 1:35:40I, I that save against Tames of the Devin Tames do what really
- 1:35:44makes me sick. This guy made the Canadian team
- 1:35:47and by the way, he was drafted by the Islanders and the
- 1:35:49Islanders let him go to Colorado for nothing.
- 1:35:52They got nothing for Devin Dames.
- 1:35:54Makes me sick. All right, last one, this was an
- 1:35:56interesting 1. So Connor McDavid, who was the
- 1:35:59tournament MVP, he this guy Pirates say R said McDavid cost
- 1:36:05Canada that game. The back check was very weak.
- 1:36:09Pirate. Stop being a pirate.
- 1:36:11All right? I I mean, what are you on drugs?
- 1:36:13I mean, this guy pretty much was the best player on ice every
- 1:36:17time he was out there. I mean he was doing minute and
- 1:36:201/2 shifts and he was coming out after the 2nd shift, but the guy
- 1:36:24was playing practically the whole game.
- 1:36:27I don't know about you pirate. How many times have you skated
- 1:36:30on the ice? Do you think you could do a 32nd
- 1:36:32shift? Then again do a minute and 32nd
- 1:36:34shift as much as he did throughout that game.
- 1:36:37This guy is the best player in the world and to take shots at
- 1:36:39him and say that he's the reason why because I'm back checking.
- 1:36:42You can back check my foot in your ass, sorry.
- 1:36:46Maybe we should have Karlie McDavid skate on a peg like
- 1:36:48versus you on a skate. What?
- 1:36:50Kind of take is that Connor McDavid is the reason why Team
- 1:36:54Canada didn't win the gold medal.
- 1:36:56What are they nuts? I, it had nothing to do with
- 1:37:00Connor McDavid, ladies and gentlemen, nothing to do with
- 1:37:04Connor McDavid. He played his ass off in the
- 1:37:07game. And I'll tell you this right
- 1:37:08now, on any given day, Canada probably wins that game.
- 1:37:11But Team USA three on three, they, they made the moves, they
- 1:37:15made the plays that they needed to do to win that game.
- 1:37:18And congratulations to Team USA, very well deserved.
- 1:37:21And, and by the way, maybe the only championship Sullivan will
- 1:37:25win in the next 5 or 6 years because it's not going to be
- 1:37:28with the Rangers. I know Neil's going to love that
- 1:37:32one. And now, ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:37:37my deuce of the day. The deuce of the day you log.
- 1:37:42Not a log I don't have a log, but well ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:37:53as you want to well hold on I'm trying to get this smell my ass
- 1:37:56there it is You want to smell my ass This is something that
- 1:37:59really stinks and if I had the button to press when it comes to
- 1:38:03the fart sounds this is just as bad as this one Jonte Porter is
- 1:38:07banned from the NBA, so you know what he decides to sign with
- 1:38:11who? The USB LS Super Hawks Who?
- 1:38:15Yes, ladies and gentlemen, Jonte Porter, who was banned, which if
- 1:38:21if he's banned, everybody in the NBA should be banned because I'm
- 1:38:24sure they bet on basketball one way or another.
- 1:38:27He was obviously gambling in 2024 and currently awaiting
- 1:38:30sentencing and pleading guilty for related federal charges, is
- 1:38:34planning to play in an upstart pro basketball league, the
- 1:38:39Seattle Super Hawks. Well, it's not called the
- 1:38:42Seattle SuperSonics, so why don't we call them the Super
- 1:38:45Hawks? This is horrible and I feel bad
- 1:38:48for Jonte Porter. I, I, I understand that he got
- 1:38:51caught. He did cheat.
- 1:38:52He did do something that the NBA does not allow and professional
- 1:38:55sports does not allow betting on their sports game.
- 1:38:58But to go and play outside of the NBA because you, you're
- 1:39:02obviously scraping for pennies or scraping for money or trying
- 1:39:06to believe that you're going to be something in an elite that
- 1:39:08nobody's even heard of only says that you're reaching.
- 1:39:11This is a horrible move for Jonte Porter and it just shows
- 1:39:15you that he's never going to be back in the NBA.
- 1:39:18So my deuce of the day goes to Jonte Porter.
- 1:39:21What are you drinking or what are you eating?
- 1:39:24I farted. Oh.
- 1:39:25Well, that's all I'm going to say about that anyways, when we
- 1:39:28come back. This guy's been on a show plenty
- 1:39:31of times. We love him.
- 1:39:33He's one of the best sports analyst in the game.
- 1:39:37I, I really do believe should be a Hall of Famer, big fan of his.
- 1:39:41And he's the one that brought a championship home to New York.
- 1:39:45No, not the Islanders, not the Knicks, because the Knicks
- 1:39:47haven't won since 1973. No, the 94 New York Rangers,
- 1:39:53we're not hearing 1950. Whatever the hell it is we're
- 1:39:56not hearing anymore, now we're hearing 1994.
- 1:40:00Chris Jury, eat your heart out because this guy actually wants
- 1:40:04something. Ladies and gentlemen, we would
- 1:40:05be talking to for Rangers and Islanders Stanley Cup winning
- 1:40:09general manager Neil Smith. But our sports minute with the
- 1:40:13fish. This is the Jabba and the Mouth
- 1:40:18Sportsman ads. What is up everybody?
- 1:40:21Aaron Fishman here with your sportsman.
- 1:40:23I got a couple of stories before we get into the scores this
- 1:40:25evening. Reports in the ESPN Jeff Passen
- 1:40:28on Tuesday say the Atlanta Braves and veteran starting
- 1:40:30pitcher Chris Sale have agreed on a one year contract extension
- 1:40:33worth $27 million. He is.
- 1:40:37There's also a $30 million option for 2028 with no buyout.
- 1:40:41Sale, who won the NL Sai young back in 2024, had another strong
- 1:40:44season in 2025, resurrecting his career after arm trouble,
- 1:40:48limiting him significantly in the last three years of his
- 1:40:51contract with the Red Sox. A RIB injury limited Sale to
- 1:40:54only 125 2/3 innings in 2025, but he was excellent with the 25
- 1:40:59ADRA and 165 strikeouts despite the team struggling around them
- 1:41:03with injuries to frontline starter Spencer Schwellenbach,
- 1:41:06Hurst and Waldrap keeping Sail in the fold, especially with his
- 1:41:09refound form, makes tons of sense for the Braves heading
- 1:41:12into the 2026 season. Sail for himself is entering his
- 1:41:1517th season in the league and has a career three O 1 ERA with
- 1:41:2025179 strikeouts in 2084 innings.
- 1:41:24Won the World Series with Boston in 2018.
- 1:41:27Couple more years playing at this level and Sail may be very
- 1:41:30close to punching his ticket to Cooperstown.
- 1:41:33In an interesting story into ESPN on Tuesday, the United
- 1:41:36Football League announced ahead of the start of their 2026
- 1:41:39season that there are two significant rule changes being
- 1:41:42added to how they do the show. First, unlike the NFL who is
- 1:41:46unlikely to even bring up a vote for it this year, the UFL has
- 1:41:51banned the tush push, which we know helped the Eagles win their
- 1:41:53Super Bowl 2 years ago. But the biggest change is
- 1:41:56something we haven't seen in professional sports really since
- 1:41:59the ABA merged with the NBA. Before Doctor J and those ABA
- 1:42:04guys came over to the NBA, there was No 3 point shot.
- 1:42:07When that change, so did the game forever and most people
- 1:42:10feel for the better. While in the same vein, the UFL
- 1:42:13has decided that field goals from 60 plus yards out are going
- 1:42:17to be worth 4 points instead of three.
- 1:42:21This idea could drastically change how strategy works in the
- 1:42:24game and adds a whole new level of excitement to, let's face it,
- 1:42:28probably a pretty lackluster football product.
- 1:42:30If the NFL adopted this rule in the past two seasons, there
- 1:42:33would have been 16144 point field goals kicked in 37
- 1:42:38attempted kicks, just under a 50% success rate.
- 1:42:42The coin flip. To win the game the NFL will
- 1:42:44surely be playing, paying close attention to what could be the
- 1:42:47equivalent of doing what adding the three-point shot did for the
- 1:42:51NBA, especially with kickers like Cowboys phenom Brandon
- 1:42:54Aubrey. Who wants to get paid more?
- 1:42:55Who would have had five of those 4 pointers all by himself?
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- 1:45:24He is a Ranger by heart, but an Islander in my heart.
- 1:45:28Ladies and gentlemen, we are now talking to former Rangers and
- 1:45:32Islanders Stanley Cup winning General manager, the one that we
- 1:45:37love from the 94 New York Ranger Championship team.
- 1:45:41Who built it, who traded for Mark Messier?
- 1:45:44Who decided to trade my favorite player away, the 1:00 we call
- 1:45:48Neil Smith. Neil, what's up, my friend?
- 1:45:51I'm good, Harold, Who was your favorite player that I traded
- 1:45:54away? John Van Beesbrook, I told you
- 1:45:56that. Oh, that's right, That's right.
- 1:45:58I thought you were going to say Mike Gartner, and I had Mike
- 1:46:01Gartner on the show the other day.
- 1:46:02So I said, I said, Mike, you know, I've taken more crap for
- 1:46:07trading you than everybody. And everybody says I wish you
- 1:46:10hadn't traded Gardner. I said I wish I hadn't too, but
- 1:46:14you got to do what you got to do.
- 1:46:15Yeah, it's called Mike Keenan. That's what you got to do.
- 1:46:17You got to deal with that guy. I mean, and we're working on
- 1:46:20getting Mike on the show. That would be interesting.
- 1:46:23It would be really interesting to get Neil Smith and Mike
- 1:46:26Keenan on at the same time. Could you imagine what you think
- 1:46:29that would work? I don't think so.
- 1:46:30I think before you know it, I see Neil trying to grab and try
- 1:46:34to jump through a screen and choke Mike Keenan before it even
- 1:46:37happens. So I I don't think it'll work.
- 1:46:39But Neil, I want to get into a lot of hockey with you because
- 1:46:43to me, if there's anybody that knows more about hockey than
- 1:46:47you, I don't know who it is. You've been around great hockey
- 1:46:51teams, great hockey players, the Canadians falling short for gold
- 1:46:56and, and the United States finally doing something that a
- 1:46:59team has not done on the United States men's hockey team, has
- 1:47:02not done since 1980, Miracle on Ice.
- 1:47:05What were your thoughts on that goal by Jack Hughes, as they
- 1:47:09call the golden goal? What did you think?
- 1:47:12And do you think that the United States played hard enough to win
- 1:47:16that game? Yeah.
- 1:47:17Yeah, I do. I, I think what happens in these
- 1:47:20games is sometimes a goaltender can completely win the game for
- 1:47:25you. And I, I got to say, I think
- 1:47:26that Conor Hallibuck won the gold medal for the United States
- 1:47:29because he was unbelievable the way he held Canada out of the
- 1:47:34out of scoring and, and they should have been up 3 or 4 to
- 1:47:37one at some point during that game.
- 1:47:39It should never have gotten no overtime.
- 1:47:41But then when it gets to overtime in the Olympic
- 1:47:43Committee decided to go three on three, which I don't understand
- 1:47:47because they were going three on three for 20 minute periods.
- 1:47:51They said if they if it gets through 20 minutes and it's
- 1:47:54still tied, we'll go another 20 minutes at three on three.
- 1:47:57Well then go 5 on five, do a real game.
- 1:47:59Don't do skills competition. But anyway, you know what, it
- 1:48:04was fair and square. Jack Hughes got that goal.
- 1:48:07They got caught up the ice. The Canadians did on McDavid
- 1:48:11sort of missed on that shot going up and then the US got the
- 1:48:15puck, got it up to great defenseman for Columbus, Zach
- 1:48:19Warrensky got the puck up to him.
- 1:48:22He made a fabulous play to Jack Hughes and Jack Hughes is a goal
- 1:48:25scorer. I mean, we all, here's the play
- 1:48:27here. Look at this, Warrensky goes
- 1:48:29after it, somehow McDavid loses it and then he gets it right
- 1:48:32across and Jack Hughes makes no mistake.
- 1:48:34So you know what, great on them, great for hockey.
- 1:48:37It's the whole thing is fabulous, I think.
- 1:48:41How about Jack Hughes getting his teeth knocked out and and
- 1:48:45and pretty much said he was he swallowed one of his teeth is
- 1:48:48half a tooth and then getting up bleeding.
- 1:48:51Peterson, I think on Canada hit him and he had a 4 minute minor
- 1:48:55and a major, I'm sorry, 4 minute major and then the he goes, he
- 1:49:00goes into the box. the United States team does not score in
- 1:49:05the 1st 2 minutes and then he gets a penalty.
- 1:49:07He goes into the box. You get scared and then the the
- 1:49:11United States kill the penalty and it goes to overtime.
- 1:49:13I mean, it all fell well, well, but the thing that stood out to
- 1:49:16me in that, in that game was the the the save that Connor
- 1:49:21Hollabock made against Devin Thames with the shaft of his
- 1:49:25stick. It was it, you didn't realize it
- 1:49:28and you didn't notice it until Eddie Olczyk said, I think he I
- 1:49:31think he hit his stick. I think it hit his stick.
- 1:49:33And then you watch the replay and you were like, I was like,
- 1:49:36how did that miss the net? How did that not go in?
- 1:49:39And Connor Hollabock was amazing.
- 1:49:41You're absolutely right. When you look at both coaches
- 1:49:44and Cooper and Sullivan and what they did throughout the game, do
- 1:49:49you think they Cooper did enough to figure out maybe change the
- 1:49:53lines later in the third period that maybe give them a bitter
- 1:49:57bigger or better more advantage against Team USA with the talent
- 1:50:00that they have? You know what I think that he, I
- 1:50:03can't second guess John Cooper because he is such a great
- 1:50:05coach. And I thought that they were,
- 1:50:07they were out playing the US most of the game.
- 1:50:09I thought the one that that Canada got the five on three.
- 1:50:13Usually that swings the momentum.
- 1:50:15If you don't score, the momentum gets swung to the defending
- 1:50:19team. If you do score, you get the
- 1:50:21momentum. That's usually what 5 on threes
- 1:50:23do. They swing the momentum one way
- 1:50:25or the other. And Canada kept, you know, went
- 1:50:28and had the momentum after not scoring.
- 1:50:30That's what I found amazing because the US up until that
- 1:50:33five on three, I thought had the better of the play.
- 1:50:36And then from the five on three, from then on, it seemed like
- 1:50:40Canada had the better of the play and the US was sort of back
- 1:50:43on their heels a little bit. But I don't, I don't know that I
- 1:50:47can criticize John for not changing his lines around or
- 1:50:49doing anything. I mean, his team was was going
- 1:50:52real good. You expected a goal at any time
- 1:50:56and it just wasn't to be. And again, you know what, like
- 1:50:59you think back to the Marty Bradur days, the Patrick Wah
- 1:51:02days, the these fabulous goaltender set that win games,
- 1:51:07win series, win cups. I think Connor Hellebuck did
- 1:51:11that for them with this gold medal.
- 1:51:13You forgot about Mike Richter. Remember what he did?
- 1:51:15Of course. Well, I didn't.
- 1:51:17I didn't want to brag this. Was Charles bias?
- 1:51:21I mean, the, the guy that he traded away, John Van Beesburg
- 1:51:24did it. I mean, he didn't win a Stanley
- 1:51:26Cup, but he got his team all the way to the Stanley Cup Finals.
- 1:51:28So you sure did. Yeah.
- 1:51:30Boy, oh boy, did he stand on his head that year.
- 1:51:33And it's funny. It's funny when I, when I spoke
- 1:51:35to the Beezer like years ago and I, I brought up that time and
- 1:51:40and I, I brought up the Rangers trading him.
- 1:51:42He never, he didn't mention you, Neil, or never took shots at
- 1:51:45you. He said that changed my career,
- 1:51:48that changed my trajectory. And he said if that didn't
- 1:51:51happen, maybe the great things that happened after that never
- 1:51:55happened for me. So he says you have to, you have
- 1:51:58to wonder what would have happened if I stayed with the
- 1:52:00Rangers. And want to say I never told you
- 1:52:02this one with the one, the Stanley Cup with the Rangers,
- 1:52:05Maybe that changes everything. That changes my trajectory, so,
- 1:52:09he said. I I'm not upset that I never won
- 1:52:12a Stanley Cup. Yeah.
- 1:52:13The issue was though, and people, you know, this is so
- 1:52:16long ago, people might not remember those expansion draft
- 1:52:20rules were you could only protect one goalie.
- 1:52:23So you you had to make a decision between Richter and Van
- 1:52:26Biesburg. I had no choice and Richter was
- 1:52:29the younger guy and we just all thought that we should go with
- 1:52:34Richter. And then it was hard.
- 1:52:36I found a trade for Van Biesburg, if you remember
- 1:52:39trading him to Vancouver. And then Rodger Nielsen and and
- 1:52:44Bobby Clark for Florida took John in the first pick.
- 1:52:50And that's why we got Doug Lidster, who ended up on the ice
- 1:52:53for the Stanley Cup buzzer against Vancouver.
- 1:52:56But it was it was difficult for teams.
- 1:53:00I mean, you could only keep 1 goalie and you have two good
- 1:53:03ones. What are you going to do?
- 1:53:03You got to trade one guy or the other.
- 1:53:05I know, Neil, I, I, I forgive you.
- 1:53:08I mean, after having you on the show a couple of times, I
- 1:53:10forgive you. I But you know what?
- 1:53:12It changed my trajectory because then I followed Van Beesbrook.
- 1:53:16I became a Florida Panther fan. And then when he went to the
- 1:53:18Islanders for the year, year and 1/2, he was there.
- 1:53:21I became an Islander fan because he was also with the, if I'm not
- 1:53:25mistaken, he was with Philadelphia and then he went to
- 1:53:27the Islanders. I I didn't root for
- 1:53:29Philadelphia. I just want to, I rooted for
- 1:53:31him. I stayed with the Panthers, but
- 1:53:33when he went to the Islanders, I said, you know what, I'm going
- 1:53:36to be an Islander fan. And boy, oh boy, I made the
- 1:53:38wrong decision for a while, but I'm happy now.
- 1:53:41I mean, I got something. That, you know, I think John is
- 1:53:44Beazers, one of the only players and I don't know the other
- 1:53:46names. I think there's one or two
- 1:53:48others that played for the Rangers, the Islanders and the
- 1:53:52Devils played all three. I'm trying that's that's a good
- 1:53:55question. That's a good.
- 1:53:57Question. Yeah, it is a good trivia
- 1:53:58question. But he did he he he was in
- 1:54:00uniform for all three. So I want to ask from the
- 1:54:03Canadian perspective, like the obviously they've had the goalie
- 1:54:06platoons and I, I know you're mentioning you don't blame John
- 1:54:08Cooper for the way they rotate the line and stuff like that.
- 1:54:10But we always see like playing styles for these goalies that
- 1:54:13are maybe questionable, like they had to rotate.
- 1:54:15I thought Logan Thompson maybe should have played more because
- 1:54:17Bennington was kind of up and down throughout the tournament.
- 1:54:19Like, do you think that kind of thing is with the playing style
- 1:54:22is something that Canada had an issue throughout this tournament
- 1:54:24even winning? A mouthful.
- 1:54:26A mouthful right there. Yeah, I mean, Ben Bennington to
- 1:54:29me, you know, it's hard to believe he's that sounds very
- 1:54:33negative. What I'm going to say is it
- 1:54:34sounds hard to believe that Bennington is the best Canadian
- 1:54:37goalie. But you know, they said that the
- 1:54:41way he played in the Four Nations, he earned that spot on
- 1:54:45the Olympic team. And then when the Olympics
- 1:54:47started, the first three games, I mean, he was great.
- 1:54:49And I'm not saying he wasn't good in the in the game, even
- 1:54:53though Boldy scored on him on that great rush he had.
- 1:54:56And then of course Jack scored, Bennington was still good.
- 1:55:01I just don't see Bennington as the best Canadian goalie out
- 1:55:05there. Maybe, and I might be totally
- 1:55:07wrong, Doug Armstrong's AGM. Guess what?
- 1:55:11Doug Armstrong's also the GM of Saint Louis, which happens to be
- 1:55:15Bennington's team. So I don't know, I think
- 1:55:19there's, you know, everybody can look in the rear view Mirror Now
- 1:55:22and and see things. That was a fantastic move by
- 1:55:26Baldy. The way he put it up in the air.
- 1:55:28You know, how many kids are going to be trying for the next
- 1:55:315 years to replicate that move and try to try to do that, that
- 1:55:35sort of like toss it up in the air and go through that was
- 1:55:38amazing. And he did it between Dave's and
- 1:55:40Makar I believe. Yeah, he did.
- 1:55:44He looked really good too. He looked good all the whole
- 1:55:47tournament. It didn't show on as far as his
- 1:55:49statistics, but he was very, very good.
- 1:55:51And and, and I'll tell you this, Sullivan really mixed the lines
- 1:55:56up very, very well. And you can see why Sullivan is
- 1:56:00and why the Rangers decided to go with him.
- 1:56:01I mean, Chris Jury, the idiot decided to go with him.
- 1:56:04I'm just, I can't stand Chris Jury.
- 1:56:06I played hockey with him. I never liked him as a hockey
- 1:56:09player. I never liked his.
- 1:56:11You know, I didn't like his father.
- 1:56:13So when I played against him, it was very, very hard to deal with
- 1:56:16every single, every single time I was on the ice and had to deal
- 1:56:19with stepping off the ice and, and dealing with during
- 1:56:22intermissions and dealing with his father screaming at me.
- 1:56:25So I wasn't, I wasn't a big Chris Drury fan.
- 1:56:28So I always take shots and I'm on this show.
- 1:56:30I've always attacked him on this show, but I don't think he knows
- 1:56:34what he's doing. I I really don't.
- 1:56:36The fact that the Rangers quit the way they I've never seen a
- 1:56:39Ranger team quit before the All Star break, quit before the
- 1:56:43Olympic break the way they did. And then they're trading away
- 1:56:46pieces and Panarin, they got nothing back for Panarin.
- 1:56:49This guy is one of the best offensive players in the NHL.
- 1:56:53And they said, you know what, we'll just give him for this
- 1:56:55guy. It looks like a nice guy.
- 1:56:57I mean, he's going to 100 points.
- 1:56:59He's all right, you know, and we'll get another guy and we'll
- 1:57:01just trade him over there LA and hopefully that'll work and and
- 1:57:04maybe we'll trade Vincent Trochek.
- 1:57:06He's just one of the best two way players in the league.
- 1:57:08He'll probably go for, you know, a little pepper and salt and,
- 1:57:12you know, that's it. You know, we're about to lose.
- 1:57:15We're going to try to get as much as we can in this year's
- 1:57:17draft. What the hell is this guy doing?
- 1:57:19Neil, you are a GM. You've been a GM, a successful
- 1:57:23GM to build this team, this organization.
- 1:57:26What the hell is this man doing? Yeah, I can't answer Darryl
- 1:57:29because I, I, I have no idea. I don't see the plan.
- 1:57:33I don't see why they're doing the things they're doing.
- 1:57:36I haven't liked it since Goudreau.
- 1:57:38I didn't like the Troopa thing. I don't like the Kryder thing.
- 1:57:41I don't like, I didn't like the Kapo Kako thing.
- 1:57:44I didn't like any of it. And I Panera.
- 1:57:47And you're right, like you're going to trade Panera because
- 1:57:51you're not going to resign him. Well, you know, you got to get
- 1:57:57more than that or else just let them leave at the end of the
- 1:58:00year there. You know, someone said this to
- 1:58:03me the other day. In baseball, players leave at
- 1:58:06the end of the year. And and not every baseball GM
- 1:58:09is, is, you know, tarred and feathered because a baseball
- 1:58:14player walked out on them at the end of the year.
- 1:58:17It seems like in hockey is the only sport where if, if a, if a
- 1:58:20player walks away as a free agent, you tar and feather the
- 1:58:24GM. Well, you would have been better
- 1:58:26when you to stay with Panarin and keep trying to make it
- 1:58:30because you know, and instead of trading him off for nothing.
- 1:58:34It it just doesn't ring with me why that happened.
- 1:58:38I, I don't understand the philosophy.
- 1:58:41I don't understand the plan of, of what they were doing with
- 1:58:46that. And I sure don't see this
- 1:58:48retooling quote. You know, you're not rebuilding
- 1:58:52your retooling. Well, let me tell you something.
- 1:58:54If if you tear a building down, how do you retool it?
- 1:59:00You, you know, it's, it's gone. You got to rebuild it.
- 1:59:03And this building is torn down. So I don't, I don't know what
- 1:59:07they're doing. I can't see it from the outside.
- 1:59:09Hey, you know what? I should ring, ring, ring and
- 1:59:12call James Dolan, Say hey, why did you go on the carton show
- 1:59:16his first day back on WFEN and come out with this garbage?
- 1:59:20Because I'm not buying it. I haven't bought anything.
- 1:59:25Anything Chris Drury has done, by the way, we are talking to
- 1:59:28former Rangers and Islanders Stanley Cup winning general
- 1:59:31manager Neil Smith. He's a friend of the show, does
- 1:59:34such a great job with his podcast.
- 1:59:36He's sensational and one of the guys that I believe should be in
- 1:59:39the Hall of Fame and hopefully listen.
- 1:59:41When you get inducted in the Hall of Fame, you better invite
- 1:59:43me. I want to be.
- 1:59:44I will, I will. You get me in there and you'll
- 1:59:46be there with me at the. Party.
- 1:59:47I'm going to be there at the party.
- 1:59:49I'll be dancing on the stage, man.
- 1:59:50I'll be dancing as your backup dancer.
- 1:59:53I'll be like, yeah, wait, wait a second, why am I not holding the
- 1:59:56Stanley Cup? That will bring us John Van
- 1:59:59Beesbrook Jersey. And by the way.
- 2:00:01Yeah, yeah, that's fine. Oh, yeah, that would that would
- 2:00:04really sell to the people, ladies and gentlemen.
- 2:00:08So you brought up Biddington. All right, now, I was there the
- 2:00:14night they won the Stanley Cup in Boston.
- 2:00:16I was on the ice when the Saint Louis Blues won that Stanley
- 2:00:19Cup. And I walked up to Pennington
- 2:00:22and I asked him. I said, listen, I, I know you
- 2:00:24have a lot of people and I got a couple of questions to ask you.
- 2:00:27You, you were sensational throughout the Stanley Cup
- 2:00:29finals. You, you came out of nowhere.
- 2:00:31And I, Craig Barubi is one of the nicest people you'll ever
- 2:00:34meet. He really is.
- 2:00:36He was sensational, one of the nicest people you'll ever meet.
- 2:00:39And shout out to Craig Barubi. But this man is the biggest
- 2:00:44piece of, you know what I have ever met.
- 2:00:47I walked up there and I said, listen, can I get a couple of
- 2:00:50questions? He said, who do you work for?
- 2:00:51I said, what does it matter? You want a Stanley Cup?
- 2:00:54I got a question to ask you. He says, well, I, I got other,
- 2:00:58you know, I got other questions to ask you.
- 2:00:59So I said, I walked away. I walk away and these two
- 2:01:02beautiful women walk up to him and he's like, he's got just
- 2:01:05fire away, fire away. I'm like, I turned around.
- 2:01:08I looked at him. I'm like, I wish I had that
- 2:01:10stick. I'd shove it right where the sun
- 2:01:12doesn't shine, that piece of garbage.
- 2:01:14I walked right away. And then I went to Keith
- 2:01:16Kentucky and I asked Keith, by the way, Keith is not a nice guy
- 2:01:19guy either, by the way. So I enough said on that.
- 2:01:23When when you look at some of these players and you've worked
- 2:01:26with a lot of them, and I'm not going to throw you under the bus
- 2:01:29and I don't want to get you in trouble.
- 2:01:31Is there a particular player that stood out to you that
- 2:01:33really just you didn't see eye to eye with, you just didn't
- 2:01:37like because of his attitude? Was there a player out there
- 2:01:40that you traded for, drafted or just a specific player that you
- 2:01:45just, you just don't like them? A name doesn't come to mind, but
- 2:01:48there's got to be somebody out there.
- 2:01:50If if they proved to to be selfish and not a team guy, we
- 2:01:55got rid of them pretty quickly. I can't.
- 2:01:57A name doesn't come to mind. I can name you 25 players that I
- 2:02:03loved, but players that I didn't like I I guess I just
- 2:02:07immediately forget about them. So I threw you.
- 2:02:10Careful. Nobody's ever asked you that
- 2:02:12question, huh? No, not really, no.
- 2:02:14And I mean, even even the players that I inherited when I
- 2:02:18got there and that I traded really early, Michelle Petit was
- 2:02:22my first trade to Quebec for Randy Mohler.
- 2:02:26I can't say anything bad about Michelle Petit.
- 2:02:28I can't see anything bad about anybody that I had there that I
- 2:02:31didn't like them. There were some guys that just
- 2:02:34weren't team guys and then there were there were other guys that
- 2:02:37I was pissed because I would trade them and then they would
- 2:02:41badmouth me like I was some badass because I traded them.
- 2:02:45Well, you know what? You signed up for this job like
- 2:02:47you signed up in to be a pro pro athlete and there's a chance you
- 2:02:53could get traded. Don't start crying about having
- 2:02:56to move your family when that's what you signed up for.
- 2:03:00But it's it's really hard. I, I got to be honest with you,
- 2:03:04I I liked much more, many more than I disliked.
- 2:03:09Well, you mentioned you, you, you don't want to be, you know,
- 2:03:13threatened or being told that you have to be, you have to be
- 2:03:15traded at the trade downline. I remember Chris Jury a couple
- 2:03:18of years ago telling Goudreau before the trade deadline, I'm
- 2:03:22not going to trade you. I, I know it's in the middle of
- 2:03:25the season. We're going to keep you.
- 2:03:26We'll move you in the offseason. And all of a sudden at the trade
- 2:03:28deadline, he moves Goudreau and Gujo was like, and I've I read a
- 2:03:33story that Gujo went up to Chris Drew and he said, listen, I
- 2:03:37never said I wouldn't do what I said I might not do it.
- 2:03:40And and he lied to Goudreau and Gujo got traded and it pissed
- 2:03:45off Kudrow because his family thought that they were going to
- 2:03:47be there in New York for at least the rest of the season and
- 2:03:51he didn't have to move. He was furiated.
- 2:03:53And it just it to me, it just tells me who Chris Troy is.
- 2:03:56Even personally offset or what I remember him as a player now as
- 2:04:01AGM. I just want to beat the hell out
- 2:04:02of him. I'm like, if he did listen, if
- 2:04:04he did that to me and I was Kudrow, I would have taken my
- 2:04:08stick and broken it on his face. That's what I would have done.
- 2:04:12I would say you did what? And I would have ran after him.
- 2:04:14I probably wouldn't have got another job, but at least I
- 2:04:18would have set myself up for a a media job in the long run.
- 2:04:21I don't know Chris personally. I do know his brother Ted, who I
- 2:04:24like very much, who's works for UBS and lives in Chicago and is
- 2:04:28the father of Jack Drury that plays on Colorado.
- 2:04:33But I, I don't know Chris. But what I'm really surprised at
- 2:04:36with Chris is he's a former player, a former captain, a
- 2:04:40former Stanley Cup winning player.
- 2:04:43You must have a lot better feelings for what players are
- 2:04:47going through than someone like me, I would think.
- 2:04:50And yet, you know, he's just treated players like crap a lot
- 2:04:56of the time. And that shocks me that, you
- 2:04:59know, a former player would do that to the players.
- 2:05:04I want to ask from the publicity standpoint, Obviously the Ranger
- 2:05:07is making the letter itself. Obviously we talked about you
- 2:05:09didn't like the retooling, the Christian reset, but the actual
- 2:05:12concept. I know other teams have done it
- 2:05:13with social media posts. I think the Sharks did it when
- 2:05:16they were trying to purge their core.
- 2:05:18Ranger's doing it twice though. Is it a little too much doing it
- 2:05:22publicly the way they're doing it?
- 2:05:24I think so. I think the, and I think that
- 2:05:26second letter basically was a, you know, was a copy of the 1st
- 2:05:31letter. It was, it was very similar to
- 2:05:36what they sent out the first time in the first time it
- 2:05:37worked. I mean, they, they did it, they
- 2:05:39did it. They, they and they retool,
- 2:05:42rebuilt, redid, whatever, and ended up with a team that, you
- 2:05:47know, was very good, won the President's Trophy.
- 2:05:50I think it's, you've tried this trick too many Times Now.
- 2:05:54You're not going to buy this another letter.
- 2:05:56We get another letter like come on.
- 2:05:59And the words are very similar. So I'm not sure where that order
- 2:06:04came from to do that letter. Maybe it wasn't Chris's idea.
- 2:06:07Maybe Chris was told, well, this worked for us a few years ago,
- 2:06:12let's do this again. Who knows, right?
- 2:06:16We don't. Know we are talking to former
- 2:06:17Rangers and Islander Stanley Cup winning general manager Neil
- 2:06:20Smith and I I could probably bet that Chris Drury had something
- 2:06:26behind it. I I've just taken, you know, if
- 2:06:28I'm playing dice or something or I'm playing craps, I'm probably
- 2:06:32going to guess the right number on this one.
- 2:06:34Baby. I I, I would.
- 2:06:36But Speaking of greatness, Matthew Schaefer has been as
- 2:06:41good as it gets. I mean, this guy has been
- 2:06:44sensational. He was the number one pick.
- 2:06:46I was questioning it because I wanted the the goal scorer Misa,
- 2:06:50but I'll take it back. I don't know why I did it.
- 2:06:52I he also didn't play a lot of games last year, so I didn't
- 2:06:55know who really Matthew Schaefer was until the season started.
- 2:06:59This kid is going to be the best defenseman in the NHL probably
- 2:07:04in the next two years. He's special.
- 2:07:06There's something about him that drives players to play with him
- 2:07:09and want to play with him. What do you know about Matthew
- 2:07:12Schaefer? I'm sure you've met him before
- 2:07:14or you've had a conversation with him.
- 2:07:15What do you what do you think of him?
- 2:07:17I I think the world of them, I've seen him play being at UBS
- 2:07:21Arena, I'd say it whatever, at least 20 * a season.
- 2:07:25And he's got speed that's great. He can go up on the play and
- 2:07:30still get back and defend. He's got great instincts with
- 2:07:33the puck. He's great on the power play.
- 2:07:36I, I think he is another Lane Hudson and Kale Mccarr and and
- 2:07:43Quinn Hughes type player. I think he's in that category
- 2:07:46with those 3 great guys. And I think two or three years
- 2:07:49from now, maybe even less, maybe next year, he's gonna be right
- 2:07:53in the conversation for the Norris Trophy.
- 2:07:56I think he's that good. I think he's gonna be fantastic.
- 2:07:59And I don't see, you know, you're always looking when
- 2:08:03you're a hockey guy for OK, what are the, what are the downsides
- 2:08:07of this guy? Where is he weak?
- 2:08:08Is he is he weak defensively? Is he weak physically?
- 2:08:11Is he scared? Does he not have a good shot?
- 2:08:14Can he not turn? He can do everything.
- 2:08:17He, he, he is good at everything.
- 2:08:19And his maturity is off the charts, which of course is
- 2:08:24shouldn't be something that is surprising because to be that
- 2:08:29good at 18, you've got to be really mature.
- 2:08:32And as that, just like Maclin, Celebrini, the one thing that
- 2:08:36everybody says about him at 19 playing for Team Canada was his
- 2:08:40maturity as a as a person, he's he's well beyond his years.
- 2:08:45So, and I think that's the same with Matthew, Matthew Schaefer.
- 2:08:48I think the best thing that ever happened to the New York
- 2:08:51Islanders in the last 20 years is that they won that lottery
- 2:08:55last summer. And by the way, it was a
- 2:08:57sensational lottery because that was one thing.
- 2:09:00And everybody takes shots at Gary Bettman.
- 2:09:02I say it a lot. Gary Bettman is the best
- 2:09:04commissioner in professional sports.
- 2:09:06And a lot of people Boo him at the draft and he laughs, he
- 2:09:10smiles and it's cool when Gary Gary doesn't care.
- 2:09:13But I I think he's better than Goodell, Manford, all these
- 2:09:17guys, Adam Silver. Adam Silver let's the lead let
- 2:09:19the players run his league and they do and say whatever they
- 2:09:22want on on his platform. The Rodger Goodell is all about
- 2:09:26money and and the owners and he could screw everybody.
- 2:09:29He could care less. And Rob Manfred's a complete
- 2:09:32moron, all right? This guy decided to do one thing
- 2:09:37and he said, you know what, you think that the lottery draft is
- 2:09:40fake or you think that everybody knows that who's going to go 1-2
- 2:09:44and three, I'm going to do it in front of the cameras.
- 2:09:47You're going to watch the lottery in front of your face is
- 2:09:50to see how lucky A-Team can get. And it was amazing.
- 2:09:54I, I think that every single league and I believe football
- 2:09:58should be doing a lottery like this eventually too.
- 2:10:01I think it all should be like that.
- 2:10:03You got to earn and get lucky in the lottery.
- 2:10:06I think what Gary Bettman is doing for the NHL is amazing.
- 2:10:10What are your thoughts to Gary Bettman and the transition when
- 2:10:14you were the the GM of the New York Rangers and you were GM in
- 2:10:17the NHL to now? I've seen Gary come into the
- 2:10:20league. I was already there as GM of the
- 2:10:22Rangers when he came in in 1992, and it was a guy from the NBA.
- 2:10:26And of course, the NHL was concerned about marketing and
- 2:10:30getting more revenue streams and the league becoming more
- 2:10:35valuable as the NBA was. And I've watched him since 1992
- 2:10:40grow franchise values like Jack and the Beanstalk.
- 2:10:44I mean, it's unbelievable. And you know, I don't like all
- 2:10:47the expansion. And the reason I don't is 'cause
- 2:10:49I'm a, I'm a hockey purist. I'd rather see their less teams
- 2:10:53and better players than more teams and watered down players.
- 2:10:57But nevertheless, we've got hockey now being played in
- 2:11:00places where nobody ever thought about hockey before, and we've
- 2:11:04got players coming out of different locations developing
- 2:11:08in places like Scottsdale and Vegas and other places.
- 2:11:11We never believed that a hockey player could come out of there.
- 2:11:14So, and that's all due to Gary Bettman and his ability to make
- 2:11:20franchise values grow. And, you know, revenues have
- 2:11:23gone up exponentially. The players should love Gary
- 2:11:27Bettman because it's it's Gary that has spearheaded the revenue
- 2:11:34for the National Hockey League going up the way it has.
- 2:11:37So I don't know how he could possibly have done a better job
- 2:11:41than he's done for the job description that he had.
- 2:11:45And like, honestly, like his job description was Gary, you know,
- 2:11:50move us up into up in and, and let us make more money so that
- 2:11:55we can be a bigger thing. We can get better network
- 2:11:59contracts, we can do better. He's done it all.
- 2:12:02He's done. He's spearheaded all of that.
- 2:12:04So I, I'm right with you. I don't know how anybody could
- 2:12:08criticize the job that he's done.
- 2:12:10You look at the league now, the NHL, and like you said, there's
- 2:12:13a lot of expansion and they're maybe thinking about bringing
- 2:12:17another team to the league in the near future.
- 2:12:21The Corbec Nordique's were to me a team that I really, I love
- 2:12:26their jerseys. When I was a kid, I always loved
- 2:12:29the blue and the white and, and, and I don't know if anybody's
- 2:12:32been to Corbec. It is a beautiful, beautiful
- 2:12:35city. Do you see the NHL bringing back
- 2:12:38hockey from, you know, to the core back Nordiques?
- 2:12:41You know, it's possible. They really want a team back
- 2:12:45there. Again, I'm not sure that they
- 2:12:47have the base for the revenue that you need to have to be in
- 2:12:51the National Hockey League nowadays.
- 2:12:54But I think Quebec is longing for a team.
- 2:12:58You know, when the Avalanche wear those uniforms on those
- 2:13:01throwback nights, they wear the Quebec Nordique.
- 2:13:03You know, I think it's fabulous. I mean it, it just brings you
- 2:13:06back to those days that rivalry between the Habs and the
- 2:13:10Nordiques was something special. I'm not sure that the market can
- 2:13:15really handle the NHL team in 2026, but then again, I didn't
- 2:13:21think Winnipeg could handle an an NHL team and Ottawa's still
- 2:13:25going and they're a very small market.
- 2:13:28So you know what, who knows if the owners that want to get a
- 2:13:33team in Quebec have deep enough pockets, anything can happen.
- 2:13:37I mean, you look around Nashville, TN as a team, I mean,
- 2:13:42who'd have ever thunk it? But you, you, when you go to
- 2:13:45Canada, I, I go to Canada a lot. Neil and me and my girlfriend,
- 2:13:48we, we love the city. We, we were in Montreal during
- 2:13:52the snow and we were swimming in the hot pools at our, at our
- 2:13:57hotel. I mean, it is beautiful.
- 2:13:58It really is a beautiful, beautiful city.
- 2:14:01All the cities over there, it's hockey.
- 2:14:03Is God there? I mean, everything on the
- 2:14:05television is God. It's, it's hockey, hockey,
- 2:14:08hockey, hockey, hockey. And if you're a hockey fan, you
- 2:14:10love it. I, I love it.
- 2:14:13How could you not have a hockey team in every big city?
- 2:14:17I mean, hockey's everything over there And, and Quebec is
- 2:14:20beautiful. It's a beautiful, beautiful
- 2:14:23city. I, I don't get it.
- 2:14:24I really don't. They should have never taken
- 2:14:26that away. I, I, I was upset when the NHL
- 2:14:28did that. Remember when Owen Nolan was
- 2:14:31drafted by the Nordiques? Remember that.
- 2:14:33Yes, yes. And I loved Owen Nolan.
- 2:14:36I, I loved him as a player, loved his game.
- 2:14:39I loved his strong skating ability and it used his big body
- 2:14:42to get to the net. When they when they decided to
- 2:14:46move the Nordiques, it really upsetted me.
- 2:14:49It really did. I didn't like the way the NHL
- 2:14:51treated the Nordique fans and and everything what they stand
- 2:14:55for for the city. And I think it really hurt the
- 2:14:58NHL and the growth of of that particular area.
- 2:15:01It did, but it wasn't the NHL movement, Remember, It's that
- 2:15:04that was the owner, Marcelo. Boo.
- 2:15:06That's right, Marcelo. And remember, we played the
- 2:15:09Nordique's in their very last game ever because we were
- 2:15:12playing them in the playoffs. I remember 95I.
- 2:15:14Remember. Yep.
- 2:15:15And at the Colisee and it was Marcelo Boo that wanted to get
- 2:15:19out and he ended up selling to Charlie in in Colorado, who
- 2:15:25owned both the Nuggets and now the brand new Avalanche that was
- 2:15:28coming there playing in the the old arena.
- 2:15:31So it's really not the NHL that decides to move it now in
- 2:15:34today's day, the NHL was involved obviously in brokering
- 2:15:39the deal of Arizona going to Utah because the Arizona
- 2:15:44situation was had gotten really bad.
- 2:15:46But it's it's really up to the owner of the individual
- 2:15:51franchises to appeal to the league, to let them sell, to go
- 2:15:55someplace else. Neil, what's what's up with
- 2:15:58these names? The Seattle Krakens and the Utah
- 2:16:02Mammoths there's. No S.
- 2:16:06It doesn't make any sense. None of it does.
- 2:16:08I mean, I'm looking at these names and then the jerseys are
- 2:16:11cool, but it doesn't make sense. Are you what is a Utah Mammoth
- 2:16:16and a Kraken? Seattle grunge?
- 2:16:18I would have called him it's a grunge city.
- 2:16:19I would have called him the Seattle grunge.
- 2:16:21That would have made sense. None of it makes sense.
- 2:16:23What are the what is the NHL doing?
- 2:16:26I mean, I'm sorry, not the NHL. What is the that the owners of
- 2:16:29these teams doing and how they're building their
- 2:16:32franchise. It makes makes no sense.
- 2:16:34Neil. What?
- 2:16:34The hell these marketing I think they get, they hire marketing
- 2:16:37specialists and they come. I'll fire them tomorrow.
- 2:16:40You know, we've, we've got, we've had the Tampa Bay
- 2:16:41Lightning for a long time. We've had the Colorado Avalanche
- 2:16:44for a long time. I've always hated teams with no
- 2:16:47S on the end. I, I really have, because I
- 2:16:49always think if you're a hockey player, you know, you want to
- 2:16:53play for a team with an S on the end.
- 2:16:54You want to say, I'm a Ranger, I'm a Canadian, I'm a Maple
- 2:17:00Leaf. I'm, you know, how do you say
- 2:17:02I'm a Kraken? I'm an ass.
- 2:17:05Head. And three of those four teams
- 2:17:10could be, three of those teams could be in the conference
- 2:17:12finals. I'm all mammoth.
- 2:17:14That's right. I'm a mammoth.
- 2:17:18Fish had a good one on. Crack.
- 2:17:22All right, Dale, since the Trader lines coming up, I'll
- 2:17:23finish off with this from the Rangers.
- 2:17:24From the seller's perspective, obviously, Trocheck is probably
- 2:17:26going to be traded. We've heard Braden Schneider
- 2:17:28recently too, from their perspective, and also the
- 2:17:31Islanders from a buyer's perspective.
- 2:17:32What moves would you make if you were the GM's of their
- 2:17:35respective teams at that moment? Well, you know, it's hard to say
- 2:17:38with the Rangers because I like Vinny Trochek.
- 2:17:40I think he's a real good center iceman for that team.
- 2:17:43Great face off guy. Prove that in the Olympics.
- 2:17:47I don't know who's going to play for the Rangers if you keep
- 2:17:49trading all these guys. They never want to want to sign
- 2:17:53Centers for whatsoever reason. Yeah, I mean, maybe it's going
- 2:17:56to be the Hartford Wolfpack moving into the garden.
- 2:17:58But so I don't, I don't quite know what they're going to do
- 2:18:03there. But put the brakes on and try to
- 2:18:05keep the guys that are the best leaders in in the locker room.
- 2:18:08As far as the Islanders go. I think the Islanders have to
- 2:18:11judge very carefully how they do from here to the next 10 games.
- 2:18:17And if they, if they are thinking that, OK, you know,
- 2:18:23we're in a good position to perhaps, you know, make the
- 2:18:27playoffs and we can add something without costing us our
- 2:18:31future. I think they, they should do
- 2:18:33that because the fans at UBS Arena and that they really want
- 2:18:36to see the playoffs. They, they, they want to get,
- 2:18:39have hope. And the only way you give your
- 2:18:41fans hope is by making the playoffs.
- 2:18:43So I'm not saying they should alter their plan at all.
- 2:18:46They shouldn't do that, but they should.
- 2:18:48If they feel in the next 10 games that they're, they're
- 2:18:51right there and they're, you know that it's, it's going in
- 2:18:54the right direction. I think they should try to add a
- 2:18:57piece or two without giving up future assets.
- 2:19:01They have such a future with some of the players they drafted
- 2:19:04in this past draft. By the way, we were talking to
- 2:19:06former Rangers and Islander Stanley Cup winning general
- 2:19:09manager, our friend Neil Smith. Neil, we're going to play a
- 2:19:11quick game. You ready?
- 2:19:13I'm going to. So this is how we're going to do
- 2:19:15it. It's it's going to be really,
- 2:19:16really cool. I'm going to tell you a trade
- 2:19:19that happened in the past in the NHL that worked for both
- 2:19:22organizations when they did it. After I do it, I want you to
- 2:19:26give me one. And we're going to do 2 of them,
- 2:19:27all right. And it's just going to come to
- 2:19:29mind. It's going to pop into my head.
- 2:19:30Are you ready? Yeah, sure.
- 2:19:33All right. Number one, Peter Forsberg was
- 2:19:37traded for Eric Lindros. That changed the trajectory for
- 2:19:41both teams, for Philadelphia, obviously.
- 2:19:44And for the Colorado Avalanche, Peter Forsberg became one of the
- 2:19:48best two way players in the NHL. He won scoring titles.
- 2:19:53I mean, he he was great. He was a great player overall,
- 2:19:56just couldn't stay healthy. Eric Lindros, one of the
- 2:19:58biggest, one of the meanest and one of the greats that we've
- 2:20:01seen, escaped one of the fastest big men we've ever seen skate on
- 2:20:05ice. Really.
- 2:20:06I mean the Legion of Boom, the Legion of Goon, whatever the
- 2:20:09hell they call themselves. The Legion of Doom, and they
- 2:20:13were the real Legion of Doom as far as I'm concerned.
- 2:20:15Those three guys in Claire Lynn Dross and something with an R at
- 2:20:19the end. I can't.
- 2:20:20Renberg. Renberg.
- 2:20:21That's right. I'm sorry.
- 2:20:23I am trying to remember. It's a past, man.
- 2:20:25I'm losing my mind. All right, so I'm going to go
- 2:20:28Eric Lindros for Peter Forsberg. That certainly was a trade.
- 2:20:32It was a lot more than Peter Forsberg, though.
- 2:20:34That's the only thing. Yeah, I know you got to know
- 2:20:36there was a lot, there was a lot of money and there was a lot of
- 2:20:39other players. And it's amazing that how well
- 2:20:43the Quebec slash Avalanche did by getting Peter Forsberg and
- 2:20:46went on to win the Stanley Cups and everything.
- 2:20:50So that that was a trade though that that ended up changing both
- 2:20:54franchises for sure. All right, give me one for you.
- 2:20:57Oh boy. Off the head.
- 2:20:59I'll say there was a trade with Toronto and Calgary, Toronto and
- 2:21:07Calgary that traded. Doug Gilmour went to Toronto,
- 2:21:14which ended up being a staple of Toronto and, and leading them
- 2:21:19for a decade or so as as a great player there.
- 2:21:25But the players that came back to Calgary helped them win that
- 2:21:30Stanley Cup in 1989. And I I now I'm lost for the
- 2:21:35names of who went back for Gilmore, but I think, but it was
- 2:21:38a trade that helped both teams. Calgary got a Stanley Cup out of
- 2:21:42it, but they lost the best player in Doug Gilmore.
- 2:21:45Oh. There it is.
- 2:21:46Craig Beruby was in the deal. There you go.
- 2:21:48Doug Gilmore da da, da da da and I think Calgary won with those
- 2:21:52guys. Gary Lehman was a fifty goal
- 2:21:55scorer later on in his career. So I I talk about that one.
- 2:22:01I mean, one of my trades that helped both teams that I don't
- 2:22:04like to this day was Tony Amonte to Chicago.
- 2:22:09You took. That away.
- 2:22:11You took that away from. Me end up winning the Stanley
- 2:22:13Cup with those two, but Tony Imani goes on to be a All Star.
- 2:22:17You took that away from me. Yeah, you stole that from me.
- 2:22:20That was my other one. Damn.
- 2:22:23Well. See Great Minds.
- 2:22:25Yeah, great minds think alike, as always.
- 2:22:27But Neil, we love you, man. You're you're you do such a
- 2:22:32great job. And why don't you tell the fans
- 2:22:34how they can check out your show, which is a great hockey
- 2:22:37show. We you still haven't asked me to
- 2:22:38come on. I'm very upset.
- 2:22:40Nhlwraparound.com is our website and you can get all of our shows
- 2:22:45on there. We had just this week we did a
- 2:22:49Hall of Fame show with Mike Gartner.
- 2:22:51We had our first two active players on last week, which was
- 2:22:56James van Reemsteke and his brother Trevor van Reemsteke,
- 2:23:00the place for Washington. That was a lot of fun.
- 2:23:03We have a lot of fun shows on NHL wrap around being we're on
- 2:23:06every podcast, a platform out there and it's Victoria Moran
- 2:23:11and myself and we have a lot of fun and hopefully say some
- 2:23:15things that people didn't know. So we say something that helps
- 2:23:20you more understand what's going on.
- 2:23:22Well, I don't know if you know this, but over the weekend we
- 2:23:25were ranked on Spotify and Apple 56th in the whole country.
- 2:23:29So I don't know if you knew that.
- 2:23:31Wow, Congrats. Thank you.
- 2:23:32Great. We've been in the top 100 for
- 2:23:34almost a week. So and we've been we've been
- 2:23:38steady in the top 200 in the whole country.
- 2:23:40We're under OK, so our genre with Spotify now, but you have
- 2:23:43to pick a genre. So and being that we the
- 2:23:47football has the most podcast out there in the whole world.
- 2:23:51So we picked I saw, I told Speedy let's go football, but we
- 2:23:54talk all sports. So we're considered a football
- 2:23:58show, but we're really we talk baseball, we talk hockey and and
- 2:24:02that's why I think the YouTube channel is it.
- 2:24:04We'll do OK, but we we could be doing a lot better if we had a
- 2:24:06niche. And we, my guys, my producer
- 2:24:09Speedy and my executive producer Aaron, we go back and forth.
- 2:24:12We're like, well, you know, should we change it to the New
- 2:24:15York, you know, New York sports loudmouth And we're we're
- 2:24:18working on something right now because we are, we do talk a lot
- 2:24:21of New York sports, but it's harder on YouTube because you
- 2:24:26have to have a niche. You got to tell if you're going
- 2:24:28to talk hockey and talk just hockey.
- 2:24:30And we don't do that. And that's not something that we
- 2:24:32do. We want everybody to see that
- 2:24:34we're open to talk about anything.
- 2:24:36We could speak about anything and we have the knowledge to
- 2:24:38speak about everything. So it's different.
- 2:24:42YouTube's a different, but Spotify and Apple, everybody
- 2:24:44loves us. And I want to thank everybody
- 2:24:46that tunes in. I don't know if you know this
- 2:24:48Apple and Spotify have Apple and Spotify video now.
- 2:24:51Did you know that? No, I didn't know that.
- 2:24:54Well, that's going to help you guys.
- 2:24:56I. Better get on there.
- 2:24:57I better we should do some more video.
- 2:24:59You, you got to get on there, man.
- 2:25:00I listen. I'm going to try to help you,
- 2:25:02Neil. I'm trying to we need all the
- 2:25:05help we can get. We know it's a long game, right?
- 2:25:07It's a long game. You can't nobody gets into this
- 2:25:11and then all of a sudden is, you know, unbelievable the first the
- 2:25:16first year. So we're, we're sticking with
- 2:25:18it. It's enjoyable.
- 2:25:19We have a lot of fun. You guys, you're great anyways,
- 2:25:22Neil and, and you want to know something every time we have you
- 2:25:24on the show. I get a lot of guys on this
- 2:25:26show. I've interviewed every, I've
- 2:25:28done this for over 13 years, but our show is now like I, I've
- 2:25:33worked with different athletes and it, some of them, they
- 2:25:36didn't work out, but I, I've worked with a lot of people and
- 2:25:40I, but I've interviewed like over 5000 people in my time of
- 2:25:43doing this, going places, doing things, athletes, musicians,
- 2:25:46everything. When I meet people or even have
- 2:25:49a conversation with people, I, I want to know how much they know
- 2:25:52about their sports or how much they don't know about their
- 2:25:56sports and how. And then I say to myself, after
- 2:25:58I get off the phone with them or even get off a zoom call with
- 2:26:01them or anything with them, I'm like, man, how did that guy have
- 2:26:05a job in that sport? You know, I just feel like, so
- 2:26:08when I when I speak to you, I always, you know, when you won
- 2:26:13that Stanley Cup and they gave you the Stanley, I'll never
- 2:26:15forget the face that you had when they gave you the Stanley
- 2:26:18Cup. Even Mike Keenan's face, even
- 2:26:20Mark Messi, when he finally got handed that that trophy and he
- 2:26:23he was smiling and he went crazy, you know, and you built
- 2:26:28that team. You built that team.
- 2:26:31I don't think people understand that, that the Rangers thought
- 2:26:33they were going to win plenty of championships after 1994.
- 2:26:37That didn't happen. Guys, here it is.
- 2:26:39Watch this, watch it. When he gets the ball, watch it.
- 2:26:42Look at that smile. Look at him shake.
- 2:26:44I mean, come on. I know it was fantastic.
- 2:26:47It was something, it wasn't fantastic for me because at the
- 2:26:51time I, I hated you, Neil, I hated you.
- 2:26:53You're treated my favorite player, but I, I understand you
- 2:26:57now. And even talking to the Beezer
- 2:26:59after the fact, I never hated you.
- 2:27:02I just hated the fact that he couldn't be a part of that.
- 2:27:05And that was something that hurt me as a fan because I loved, I
- 2:27:09went to his camps when I was a kid, Van Beezbrook's camps.
- 2:27:12And I, I just loved him as a person.
- 2:27:15And, and it was something that I, it really hurt me.
- 2:27:17But knowing you over the last couple of years and just getting
- 2:27:20to know you as a person, not only do I have a lot of respect
- 2:27:23for you, I think you're one of the most knowledgeable hockey
- 2:27:28minds that I've ever got a chance to talk to.
- 2:27:31And I appreciate you and I want you to do nothing, but I, I want
- 2:27:36you to achieve all your goals. And I definitely would love to
- 2:27:39come on your show and just have conversations and laugh and, and
- 2:27:43you know, be a little crazy. But you guys, I've checked out
- 2:27:46your show. I've checked out some of the the
- 2:27:48content that you put out there. You guys are sensational and I
- 2:27:51really appreciate you. Well, thank you very much and
- 2:27:54anytime you guys want me on here, you know, you know my
- 2:27:57number. Absolutely man and keep up the
- 2:28:00good work man And let's let's talk off air.
- 2:28:01Maybe we should talk off air because.
- 2:28:03Yeah, for sure, for sure. OK, great guys.
- 2:28:06Thanks. Neil Smith, Man, Stanley Cup
- 2:28:08champion, New York Ranges 94. One of the great personalities,
- 2:28:15and I'll tell you this, I've interviewed Mark Messier, Adam
- 2:28:17Graves, Zubov, I've interviewed a lot of Sergei Nam Chinoff.
- 2:28:21All these guys told me the mastermind of that team was Neil
- 2:28:24Smith, not Mike Keenan. I, I, I don't know, I I guess
- 2:28:28Mike Keenan wasn't loved by everybody.
- 2:28:30I'm we all know he's not loved by Neil.
- 2:28:35I personally was there as a little kid at the Four More
- 2:28:38Years speech. My father worked for Giuliani.
- 2:28:41He got me into Gracie Mansion. I actually got to do all that.
- 2:28:44I think I may have said it once before on the show, but we all
- 2:28:47thought Keenan was coming back. We all thought this was going to
- 2:28:50be like a dynasty. It just didn't go that.
- 2:28:52Way no. And Neil wanted it, but Mike
- 2:28:55Keenan was hard. He was a hard ass.
- 2:28:57And if anybody knows the story, we've had Neil, we've we've had
- 2:29:01this conversation with Neil plenty of times and we're
- 2:29:03working, Nathan is working on getting Mike Keenan on this
- 2:29:05show. And I would love to to hear what
- 2:29:09Mike Keenan has to say about. Neil, you have to let me ask him
- 2:29:12and tell him that story. You gotta let me as a kid.
- 2:29:15It's one of my earliest memories.
- 2:29:16I will. It just I remember when Mike
- 2:29:19Keenan came from the Chicago Blackhawks.
- 2:29:21I remember it. And I remember Neil Smith making
- 2:29:23that choice and bringing him in. And Neil made the right
- 2:29:26decision. It's not like he didn't, and the
- 2:29:29Rangers won because of it. But Neil Smith was the
- 2:29:33mastermind. He built that team.
- 2:29:35He made the trade for Steve Larmer.
- 2:29:36He's the one who drafted Sergey Zubov.
- 2:29:39He's the guy that was the mastermind and the creator of
- 2:29:42that Stanley Cup championship team.
- 2:29:44He made the move for Stefan Motto, Mato Mato, all those
- 2:29:49guys. SA Teekinen, that was all the
- 2:29:51guys that he pulled off and made those trades at the trade
- 2:29:55deadline to get them here to help them win a Stanley Cup.
- 2:29:58So that guy was the guy that really redefined a championship
- 2:30:03contending team like the New York Rangers who only won what
- 2:30:08was it the the last championship before that?
- 2:30:10Well, 19401940 or something like that.
- 2:30:13I mean, and they were the. Worst team in the original 6
- 2:30:15era. 19. They chanted it every place.
- 2:30:18I forgot, I forgot, dude. You know, when he was on, I said
- 2:30:211950. I was like, oh, wait a second,
- 2:30:23it was 1940. But I listen, man, I, I, I, I'm
- 2:30:26getting old there. I'm, I'm losing my mind a little
- 2:30:29bit, you know? You also haven't eaten any food
- 2:30:31in 24. Hours.
- 2:30:32That could be it. I mean, longer than that.
- 2:30:34Now it's it's longer than 24 hours.
- 2:30:37I think about it, but shouldn't. They told you to fast for 36
- 2:30:40hours. I don't.
- 2:30:41That's what they told me at midnight.
- 2:30:43They said you got to stop drink, stop eating.
- 2:30:45You could still drink water and you know, you could put some
- 2:30:49crystal light in it, but no purple, no blue, no red, all
- 2:30:53this garbage, no Gatorade at at any cost.
- 2:30:56So I mean, what are you trying to kill me here?
- 2:30:59I'm not, you know, I'm not, I'm not Gandhi here.
- 2:31:02I mean, I'm hungry, you know, so just kind of bothers down.
- 2:31:06Something to look forward to. Oh, dude, I promise.
- 2:31:09I promise you guys. I promise.
- 2:31:11Well, you turned 40 already. Stop.
- 2:31:12Stop. I know it's something for me to
- 2:31:14look forward to. I've been being.
- 2:31:16I feel bad for you because you, you deal with enough.
- 2:31:19I mean, you got diabetes. I mean, that's, that's the worst
- 2:31:21you can deal with. I mean, and there's no changing
- 2:31:23that. I I got to give you credit
- 2:31:25because me fasting for 36 or 40 hours is not as bad as I mean,
- 2:31:30I'm not. Going to lie, there's some
- 2:31:31studies, you know, in China, they're saying they're curing
- 2:31:34it. So we'll type one.
- 2:31:37Hey, I'm fine. There's a lot of things going
- 2:31:39on. I was still, I actually coached
- 2:31:40a kid that had type 1 diabetes. He was a quarterback.
- 2:31:44We could not block and he got murdered every single time.
- 2:31:47And we we've had him run all the time too.
- 2:31:49And they're playing like D3 baseball or something like that,
- 2:31:52which is toughest kid I ever seen in my life.
- 2:31:54He had one of those old school ports.
- 2:31:56Like it's open in your body. Like I don't even have that.
- 2:32:00I I can't even imagine. And he had that ever since he
- 2:32:03was a kid. And some people look, you can
- 2:32:05play through it. We heard who did we interview
- 2:32:07was a Pittsburgh Steelers lineman, Kendall Simmons.
- 2:32:09Kendall Simmons. Kendall Simmons said he had
- 2:32:12blood sugars of like 850 in pre season.
- 2:32:16You know I love Lisa. He should not be alive, but
- 2:32:19that's what he did. You know, I'm fine.
- 2:32:21We're all good. But Errol football players.
- 2:32:25Circle jerk Very. Interesting stop topic.
- 2:32:27No, not that. Not that.
- 2:32:29All right, ladies and gentlemen, we call this the NFL Whip
- 2:32:32Around. No whip, whip, whip around.
- 2:32:38Make her squirt. Make me jerk.
- 2:32:43Welcome everybody to the Whip Around.
- 2:32:46We're going to get into some football news and notes.
- 2:32:51Let's get that music just a little bit lower.
- 2:32:54This one's a loud one, boys. The Bears are allowing middle
- 2:32:58linebacker Tremaine Edmonds to seek a trade.
- 2:33:03He's entering the last year of his four year, $72 million
- 2:33:06contract he signed in 2023. He's got a 13.9 million base
- 2:33:11salary with a 1,000,000 roster bonus, 17.9 million cap hit for
- 2:33:18an off the ball linebacker. It looks like he thought they're
- 2:33:23trying to get rid of him. That's a big.
- 2:33:24Squeeze the G. Still one of the best in the
- 2:33:28league. He's a top 10 tackler in the
- 2:33:29league. Still one of those guys that a
- 2:33:33lot of teams, such as the team he used to be on, the Bills,
- 2:33:38they're letting Matt Milano go. Most likely he's been hurt too
- 2:33:42much. Not the same guy.
- 2:33:44He might come back there. He was too expensive for them to
- 2:33:47keep back then. Now might not be these might be
- 2:33:51cut. If he can't be traded, he's not
- 2:33:53going to give up very much for him.
- 2:33:54Probably a seventh round pick. There's the Giants.
- 2:33:58The Giants are before you go, I'm sorry, the Giants are
- 2:34:02probably going to cut Bobby O Carrier K If they sign a guy, if
- 2:34:06they trade for a guy like Edmonds, obviously you're
- 2:34:08ripping up the contract. You're signing him to like a two
- 2:34:11year deal where it's like, you know, very low cap hit for this
- 2:34:15year and then you see if he's any good and then you give him a
- 2:34:18bigger contract after that. What do you think about Tremaine
- 2:34:22Edmonds and the Bears deciding to let him go?
- 2:34:24It makes a lot of sense for Buffalo.
- 2:34:26I, I think Buffalo's the team. He's, he wants to go back and
- 2:34:30obviously it's not the same coaching staff, but Edmonds
- 2:34:34knows the way they want to run their defense and he fits what
- 2:34:38the what they're missing. They lose Milano, they add
- 2:34:40Edmonds that that's a, that's really like, like it's a glove
- 2:34:44for that organization. It's a glove like, you know, Ace
- 2:34:47Ventura says as far as the, the, the Giants are concerned, I
- 2:34:52don't know if the I, I know it makes sense for Joe Shane.
- 2:34:54He was, he was a part of that, that group that drafted him.
- 2:34:58I, I still think if they're, if they're going to bring in free
- 2:35:01agents that are going to fit, they got to make sure that it's
- 2:35:03a, a slam dunk. You can't make, you can't make a
- 2:35:05decision like this and say, well, we make a mistake.
- 2:35:08We bring him in or, or even even if he's a low cap hit.
- 2:35:12I don't know if the, I don't know if the Giants are going to
- 2:35:15want to do that. I think they're going to try to
- 2:35:16get a short thing here. They need corner help more than
- 2:35:20a linebacker. That's where I think the Giants
- 2:35:22need to look. If they have money and their
- 2:35:24free money, that's where you put all your eggs in the basket, not
- 2:35:27at a linebacker. So I'm going to say I'm going to
- 2:35:30sell the Giants thing. I'm going to buy the Buffalo
- 2:35:33Bills thing. Yeah, if the Bills can get at
- 2:35:34the price that you were describing, Fish, they could
- 2:35:36definitely make that work because they need a veteran guy
- 2:35:38that could be a defensive play caller.
- 2:35:40They have a lot of young safeties, a lot of young
- 2:35:42linebackers. Those are generally the two guys
- 2:35:43that are going to be the play callers.
- 2:35:45The Giants, I'm with Errol. I kind of want them to focus
- 2:35:47more on corner, the receiver obviously losing Wondell
- 2:35:50Robinson, you're going to need something to replace.
- 2:35:51Them Tate. Yeah.
- 2:35:53It's a lot. Of draft in the.
- 2:35:54Draft. You look pretty good.
- 2:35:55Yeah, and you're not going to you're not going to replace it
- 2:35:58with, especially the new scheme with one linebacker, especially
- 2:36:00the team that plays a lot of nickel already.
- 2:36:02It's the kind of thing with the Bills, they already play a lot
- 2:36:03of nickel. So Edmonds would only be a cheap
- 2:36:05thing just for millenniality. All right, let's get into it.
- 2:36:08I'm hoping the Giants actually go get this guy personally,
- 2:36:11because the middle, the linebacker play has been so bad.
- 2:36:14I think a lot of it was coaching, but we'll see.
- 2:36:18Let's move on. This is a guy you brought up a
- 2:36:20second ago, Errol, and we have to talk about him because he
- 2:36:23might be on The Jets. Arvel Reese, Ohio State
- 2:36:27linebacker, sometimes edge rusher.
- 2:36:31I would say last year is probably 5050.
- 2:36:33He might have even played a little bit more edge than inside
- 2:36:36linebacker last year. But he can play both and he
- 2:36:39presents quite a whole bunch of problems for other teams,
- 2:36:43especially when you hear what he did at the combine.
- 2:36:47It's ridiculous today. It's ridiculous. 40 yard dash
- 2:36:50446 tied for first among linebackers and edge rushers.
- 2:36:566424132.5 inch arms shorter than average not really edge rusher
- 2:37:03arm length 9.5 inch hands pretty normal and above average Listen
- 2:37:10to this 38 inch vertical 38 that's that's NBA 38 inch
- 2:37:19vertical 10/8 broad jump both of those top of all players in his
- 2:37:25category. The fact that he is 243 lbs now
- 2:37:29and they're saying that's how much he weighs.
- 2:37:31He's 64. I didn't think he was that big.
- 2:37:34I mean, he's big. He's a big man.
- 2:37:36He's a big boy and he can run a 446 and jump that high and do
- 2:37:42all those acrobatic things. I don't see him going past #2 I
- 2:37:47really, I want, I like Bane and I like Bailey.
- 2:37:51I understand why everybody loves him.
- 2:37:53But when you hear this freakish numbers, I mean, I know the
- 2:37:57combo doesn't sell you, but it's freakish how big and how strong
- 2:38:01this guy is. I'm going #2 with him.
- 2:38:04I, I, I, I don't think I could argue that.
- 2:38:06I mean, two 46243, whatever they say he was that, That's
- 2:38:12freakish. Yeah, and I was.
- 2:38:14It was 240-1241. I always had him pretty far
- 2:38:18ahead of Bailey anyway. I think Bailey played with a lot
- 2:38:20of good talent around. Not that not that Reese didn't
- 2:38:22he obviously Ohio State's loaded as well, but I think his
- 2:38:25versatility is so many different positions is a lot that you have
- 2:38:28to factor in and now you have the athleticism scores to go
- 2:38:31along with that kind of thing. I think this is definitely a #2
- 2:38:33pick worthy. I like Bain a lot too.
- 2:38:35I think Bain should go #3 right after that if Mendoza goes one.
- 2:38:37But this is definitely proving like the versatility fish you
- 2:38:40talk about ICS Simmons earlier. I, I versatility isn't as much
- 2:38:43of A concern for me with these off ball, with these pass
- 2:38:46rushing linebacker is more the off ball in the state.
- 2:38:48Because you can discerning these guys with that athletic ability,
- 2:38:51you get a spin move. I mean, you're going to be a
- 2:38:53Michael Parsons. I mean Michael Parsons, they
- 2:38:56they had questions about him when he came into the league,
- 2:38:59his arm length and all this other stuff.
- 2:39:01And look how good Michael Parsons.
- 2:39:02And they're very similar player prototypes in terms of their
- 2:39:05skill. Set.
- 2:39:05He's bigger than Michael Parsons.
- 2:39:07I know that and that's why I'm saying I'm not as worried about
- 2:39:09that. And fish, this is coming from me
- 2:39:10that I really liked Isaiah Simmons at the time out of the
- 2:39:12draft. I thought he was another honey
- 2:39:13badger but it seems like those types of ones are the more
- 2:39:17concerning, not as much the pass rushers like Reese.
- 2:39:19I'll just say this before we move on from him.
- 2:39:21Obviously this the the combine is probably going to make this
- 2:39:24decision for everybody. But for me, like I, I still
- 2:39:29would be very interested in Bain.
- 2:39:31Bain is like a true talent. If you're playing a 3/4, Reese
- 2:39:35can terrorize, but I think he has to play in a three four.
- 2:39:39I think you can put Bain in any defense at all along the line
- 2:39:42and he would be an awesome D end or he could play in the 3/4 as
- 2:39:46an edge rusher. I don't know if you want to have
- 2:39:49Reese playing middle linebacker in a four three, right?
- 2:39:51That's not really a value place for a guy of his caliber.
- 2:39:55So I think he's a little bit more scheme dependent than a guy
- 2:39:57like Bain. But hey, I think you're you're
- 2:39:59going to be happy with these guys one way or the other.
- 2:40:03Errol next story Kyler Murray, Potential Jets quarterback Kyler
- 2:40:08Murray. Not happening.
- 2:40:10There was a story that, you know, the GM, Monny Austin Ford
- 2:40:15said that they were talking to Kyler.
- 2:40:17You know, they've had good dialogue.
- 2:40:19That was the, quote, good dialogue with Murray since the
- 2:40:22season ended, Murray said. That's never happened.
- 2:40:26Apparently, there's been no contact between Kyler Murray and
- 2:40:32the Cardinals. And it's just all but a given
- 2:40:36that he's moving on and they're probably going to try to replace
- 2:40:39him with a veteran this offseason, be another one of
- 2:40:42those teams next year by and for one of those top quarterbacks,
- 2:40:45unless they take a shot at one of these guys this year.
- 2:40:47Errol Kyler Murray, little undersized, built, you know,
- 2:40:51he's built kind of like a tank. He's not like slight in frame,
- 2:40:55but a little short. And we know his biggest thing
- 2:40:58that everyone knows about him. Likes to watch, doesn't watch a
- 2:41:01lot, doesn't really like to watch tape, likes to play Call
- 2:41:04of Duty maybe a little too much. What do you think about that as
- 2:41:09a potential next quarterback for you?
- 2:41:11It's not going to happen. I don't know what you're you're
- 2:41:13drinking. If you're drinking something,
- 2:41:15keep drinking and it's not going to happen.
- 2:41:17There's no way that Kyler Murray will be the quarterback of the
- 2:41:21New York Jets and here's the reason why.
- 2:41:23Aaron Glenn does not want these prima Donna players in his
- 2:41:27locker room. He knew Aaron Rodgers was, he
- 2:41:30got rid of them and Justin Fields was a yes man type of guy
- 2:41:34and it it didn't work, but that's what he wants.
- 2:41:38Kyler Murray would be somebody that there is no way in hell
- 2:41:42Aaron Glenn is going to deal with in the locker room.
- 2:41:45The guy doesn't like people. People don't like him.
- 2:41:47Kyler Murray is not a fit for the New York Jets.
- 2:41:50I'm telling you right now, that's never going to.
- 2:41:52Happen. No, not in New York.
- 2:41:53You can't have that kind of thing.
- 2:41:54This egomaniac type quarterback, these guy that has really big
- 2:41:57good leader since his first two years in the league.
- 2:41:59And again, I think The Jets are not a quarterback away.
- 2:42:03They don't want to have that kind of drama there.
- 2:42:04And the Cardinals, I think they're stuck both ways.
- 2:42:06Like Kyler Murray is going to be stuck.
- 2:42:07They're probably going to have to caught him for much more than
- 2:42:09Ossafor. It's not looking good either by
- 2:42:11saying oh I didn't call him, oh I did call him.
- 2:42:13That's not a guy for one that should have barely kept his job
- 2:42:16as AGM either. Yeah, I was going to say, how
- 2:42:18does that guy still have his job?
- 2:42:20He got the coach, got fired, everybody knew it.
- 2:42:23That roster is not good. So here's the deal.
- 2:42:25If they cut Murray before June 1st, it's a $54.7 million cap
- 2:42:32hit, dead cap hit. If they trade him and get like,
- 2:42:36you know, like I guess a very late round pick, probably it's a
- 2:42:4037.2 million save in cap space. So it looks like they're going
- 2:42:46to be trying to shop him to somebody.
- 2:42:48But I don't know who's taking on that deal because you can't,
- 2:42:52you'd have to, you know, RIP up that contract and give him a new
- 2:42:54contract. I just don't know like where
- 2:42:58he's going to go. They're going to either have to
- 2:42:59keep him and deal with a really ugly situation this year over
- 2:43:04there, or they're going to cut them and take a $55 million hit
- 2:43:07this year and they're not firing their GM.
- 2:43:11Maybe they do fire them if they have to take that cat they're.
- 2:43:13Going to have to do like one of those weird mid season
- 2:43:15situations like you saw The Jets do with Mccagnon and stuff like
- 2:43:18that and just do it right after the draft.
- 2:43:20They're really stuck. Yeah.
- 2:43:21Oh, well, here's one that this might not be more than any just
- 2:43:26bluster, but there was a story out that that they're thinking
- 2:43:31about trading CJ Stroud. Yes, CJ Stroud, the second
- 2:43:36overall pick from a couple of years ago, Rookie of the year
- 2:43:39hasn't been as good since, right?
- 2:43:41But obviously playoff team this year they won led by that
- 2:43:46defense, though. Here's some of the the stats and
- 2:43:49some of the value. He's got a very low base salary
- 2:43:53and he will have a fifth year option around 27,000,000.
- 2:43:56So they have two more years of control of him if he was to be
- 2:44:00traded. But of course, you know,
- 2:44:04Chairman Cal McNair, you know, is questioning the leadership.
- 2:44:09So this one looks like the GM who said it's that's moronic.
- 2:44:14Nick Casario. We're not trading the guy.
- 2:44:16He's going to be playing quarterback for the Texans.
- 2:44:18But we've heard some things about this owner in Houston over
- 2:44:22the years, Mr. McNair, and he does not like Shroud and his
- 2:44:27leadership. Although the team has officially
- 2:44:30distancing themselves from their owner's comments.
- 2:44:34I'm not a big believer that the owner should be involved with
- 2:44:41the the football or even any kind of operations, but it seems
- 2:44:45to happen with the the Cowboys, it happens with The Jets, it
- 2:44:48happens with the bad teams. The Texans are a good team.
- 2:44:52They have a very good run organization and they're very
- 2:44:55well run oil machine. CJ Stroud has not looked good in
- 2:45:00the playoffs. He hasn't.
- 2:45:01I'm sorry, he hasn't. He's been a good regular season
- 2:45:04player. In the first half this year he
- 2:45:06wasn't as good as he was in the second-half.
- 2:45:08He played very good football in the second-half.
- 2:45:10He was one of the reasons why his team made the playoffs with
- 2:45:12the defense and the front seven. I'm going to tell you this right
- 2:45:16now. CJ Strout is an optional guy you
- 2:45:21could trade. There is no way this offseason
- 2:45:24they're moving him because first of all, there is no quarterback
- 2:45:28in this year's class besides Mendoza.
- 2:45:31So I'm not betting on anybody. You can draft or you can nitpick
- 2:45:34on who's going to fit and even the veterans that are going to
- 2:45:37be available, you're going to tell me that Kirk Cousins is a
- 2:45:39better fit than him? It doesn't make sense.
- 2:45:41None of them. Kyler Murray.
- 2:45:43You want Kyler Murray there I I not a chance.
- 2:45:47None of the guys that are available make any sense unless
- 2:45:51they have their backup quarterback who I I actually
- 2:45:54like to be their their future. And Mills, Davis Mills, I, I
- 2:45:58don't think that's happening. I expect him to keep his job.
- 2:46:03He stays with the Texans. It's ridiculous.
- 2:46:05Yeah, unless you can get two first round picks from a very
- 2:46:07desperate team, like I really can't see this kind of thing
- 2:46:09happening. And there's only a few too,
- 2:46:12maybe the Vikings, maybe the Steelers.
- 2:46:13They don't think Ayer Rodgers will come back.
- 2:46:15Unless you get that kind of offer, you're not trading him.
- 2:46:18And we talked about the Texans in the past with DeAndre Hopkins
- 2:46:20having a problem with their ownership.
- 2:46:22Andre Johnson's had a problem with their ownership.
- 2:46:23It looked like they were finally stepping away for a while and
- 2:46:26now all of a sudden you're trying to put your nose back
- 2:46:27into things. This is a really good young team
- 2:46:30that you don't really want to mess with things.
- 2:46:31And he said, look, there are other players, they're going to
- 2:46:33want to get contracts soon and you're going to make them all
- 2:46:36unhappy. Yeah, You don't want to have to
- 2:46:37revert to that kind of thing again.
- 2:46:39Ownership McNair. You would think you would
- 2:46:43wouldn't. Say something like that, it just
- 2:46:44hurts the value, even if you aren't going to keep them.
- 2:46:46It's just pretty dumb. But there are some dumb owners
- 2:46:49out there that have lots of money.
- 2:46:51One of the dumbest things we saw a couple of years ago was giving
- 2:46:55Kirk Cousins 40 million a season and then drafting Michael Pennix
- 2:46:59only to obviously go with Pennix.
- 2:47:02It got the general manager fired.
- 2:47:05They're going to cut Kirk Cousins.
- 2:47:06It was announced by the start of the league year on, I believe
- 2:47:09it's the 11th of March, so it'll be right before that.
- 2:47:13They're going to take a dead cap hit of 35 million, but they're
- 2:47:17definitely cutting him. He's the best veteran
- 2:47:21quarterback on the market. I was kind of joking with the
- 2:47:23Kyla Murray stuff before, but Kirk Cousins is definitely a guy
- 2:47:27The Jets are going to be looking at, as well as probably every
- 2:47:31team that is in the same position pining for that next
- 2:47:35quarterback next year. Perhaps they have draft capital.
- 2:47:38I think Kirk Cousins is has been really destined to go to the New
- 2:47:42York Jets the last couple of years.
- 2:47:44They've fallen short and probably at the tail end of his
- 2:47:47career for it that it to work. But I, I think Kirk Cousins
- 2:47:52makes a lot of sense in the Frank Wright offense, especially
- 2:47:56Frank Wright wants to get somebody in a veteran guy that
- 2:47:58can run his offense and understand the, the verbiage.
- 2:48:01It's a lot. And I, I think Kirk Cousins is
- 2:48:05smart guy. So I think it makes a lot of
- 2:48:07sense for the New York Jets. But there are other teams
- 2:48:08looking for a quarterback. Pittsburgh could be looking for
- 2:48:11a quarterback. Maybe Kirk Cousins goes to
- 2:48:13Pittsburgh. If Pittsburgh decides to bring
- 2:48:15in a rookie quarterback in the first round, AKA Mr. Alabama,
- 2:48:19that could happen. But Simpson is not going to be
- 2:48:22starting no matter where he gets drafted in the first round.
- 2:48:24He's going to back up somebody, a veteran guy.
- 2:48:26So I'm going to go Kirk Cousins to The Jets.
- 2:48:29I don't see him going anywhere else.
- 2:48:31I'll be very surprised if he goes maybe Miami if they can get
- 2:48:36rid of Tua and I'm hearing they're going to have to really
- 2:48:39cut bait with Tua $90,000,000. That's a lot of money, man.
- 2:48:42I I don't see it happening so. Yeah, I think The Jets or the
- 2:48:45Steelers, I think either one of those make a lot of sense.
- 2:48:47The Steelers obviously if they don't get Aaron Rodgers and
- 2:48:49they'll they'll drag it out all he'll probably drag it allocated
- 2:48:52last year. So that probably lessens their
- 2:48:53chances compared to The Jets just because of the way they
- 2:48:56operate. But yeah, The Jets make a lot of
- 2:48:57sense. Frank Reich when he was in
- 2:48:59Indianapolis, probably outside of the one year they had went a
- 2:49:01lot of these pocket presence quarterbacks with Matt Ryan and
- 2:49:04obviously Philip Rivers, who came back and retired out of
- 2:49:06retirement this year. And Kirk Cousins kind of fits
- 2:49:08that bill. He's aging right now.
- 2:49:10He's we talked about it last year, kind of having a
- 2:49:12borderline Hall of Fame case. So he's going to want to prove
- 2:49:14something and I think he does it with a chance where I don't
- 2:49:16think anyone has any expectations for.
- 2:49:18Him all right, well, that is another episode of the whip
- 2:49:23around. We'll probably update you once a
- 2:49:25month in the offseason, every few weeks on the NFL, and I hope
- 2:49:29you enjoyed our trip. Well, it's definitely a trip.
- 2:49:33I might be tripping after that. We haven't.
- 2:49:36Let's parlay. Yeah, Johnny.
- 2:49:37Johnny was ready to come in. I just texted him come in.
- 2:49:39So maybe we'll go to break now and we'll wait.
- 2:49:40For yeah, let's go to break 1st and we'll do it after.
- 2:49:43All right, we'll go to our sports minutes and then we'll go
- 2:49:46to let's parlay, let's go this. Is the Jabba and the Mouth
- 2:49:53sports minutes? All right, guys, Aaron Fisherman
- 2:49:56back at you with another sportsman.
- 2:49:58A couple more stories than the scores.
- 2:50:01Atlanta announced on Tuesday that they are launching their
- 2:50:04own broadcasting network called Braves Vision and will air 140
- 2:50:09games on the news station this year.
- 2:50:11This comes on the heels of the collapse of the regional sports
- 2:50:13networks across the MLB. At the beginning of February,
- 2:50:16the MLB announced that the Reds, Royals, Brewers, Marlins,
- 2:50:20Cardinals and Rays will have their local broadcast produced
- 2:50:23by the league after they, along with the Braves, Angels and
- 2:50:26Tigers terminated their deal with Main Street Sports after
- 2:50:29miss payments and financial and the MLB will now produce a total
- 2:50:34of 14 teams broadcast in 2026, almost half the league.
- 2:50:38The Braves are finalizing deals to partner with cable and
- 2:50:40satellite TV as well as streaming.
- 2:50:42The expectation is that the MLB will stream the Braves broadcast
- 2:50:45on MLBTV. Braves President CEO Derek
- 2:50:48Shiller was enthusiastic in sharing the news.
- 2:50:51Generations of Braves fans were raised watching games on the
- 2:50:54network that shared ownership with the baseball team.
- 2:50:57With Braves vision, we believe that we can present Braves
- 2:51:00baseball in new an innovative way is allowing us to expand and
- 2:51:03elevate our storytelling capabilities across all of our
- 2:51:06platforms. The economic model of baseball
- 2:51:08broadcast is pretty broken with half the league being produced
- 2:51:11by the league now. The Braves, once shown
- 2:51:13throughout the country on the Turner Station is during much of
- 2:51:15the last half century, will once again be given a chance to stand
- 2:51:19out amongst the crowd with Graves vision.
- 2:51:21It should be interesting to see how many of the other teams try
- 2:51:23to go this route as it has been very lucrative for the Yankees
- 2:51:26with the S Network and the Mets with SNY to a lesser degree.
- 2:51:30This should be one of the major topics at the next CBA
- 2:51:33discussions late next fall and the Pittsburgh Penguins in Team
- 2:51:38Canadas captain Sidney Crosby was put on the IR, the
- 2:51:42organization, or should say organization, told ESPN on
- 2:51:46Wednesday. The future Hall of Famer
- 2:51:48suffered a lower body injury when Ducks defenseman Rodko
- 2:51:51Goodish fell on top of his leg in the quarterfinals of the
- 2:51:54Olympics. Crosby was unable to play in
- 2:51:57either the semis or gold medal game, which Canada of course
- 2:51:59lost to the US and OT. If Crosby could have played,
- 2:52:02maybe it would have been a different result for the
- 2:52:03Canadian squad, but apparently Crosby will miss at least the
- 2:52:06next 4 weeks with the injury. Before the Olympic break, Crosby
- 2:52:10had 27 goals and 59 points, on pace for yet another 80 plus
- 2:52:14point season at the age of 38, which will now probably not
- 2:52:17happen. The Penguins will sorely miss
- 2:52:19their leader as they try to make the playoffs for the first time
- 2:52:22since the 2021-2022 season. As play resumes Wednesday, the
- 2:52:26Penguins sat in second in the metro with a 2915 and 12 record,
- 2:52:30although the blue Jackson capitals are just out of playoff
- 2:52:32contention only five points back of pens.
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- 2:54:30Well, Reno is probably raining himself because he's not here.
- 2:54:35I don't know where the hell he is, but you know what it it
- 2:54:39happens. I mean, he's got a kid running
- 2:54:40around probably beating him up with a spoon or maybe whipping
- 2:54:43him with a belt. Who knows what's going on over
- 2:54:45there? I mean, Reno, he lives in San
- 2:54:48Antonio. I mean that that could be one of
- 2:54:49the more boring places to live. So, I mean, Speedy, you like San
- 2:54:53Antonio? I've never been to San Antonio.
- 2:54:54Well, you like it. You think it's beautiful?
- 2:54:57Yeah, Well, we did have a, you remember when we had Rich Waltz
- 2:54:59on the show and yeah, he actually had the the hotel view
- 2:55:02from the Alamo because he was doing that.
- 2:55:05He was doing one of the college games that was like the first
- 2:55:06weekend of college football. And now that that's as much as I
- 2:55:09know whatever was San Antonio. Actually, the only time I've
- 2:55:12ever been out of the the time zone was when we were in New
- 2:55:14Orleans. I've never been outside the East
- 2:55:16time zone. Otherwise, well, broadcasting
- 2:55:18can be very weird and I'll never forget.
- 2:55:21There's one broadcast I'll never forget because, well, it's
- 2:55:24pretty simple. I remember when we had the
- 2:55:28Chicago Bulls broadcaster, that show was awkward, but I wasn't
- 2:55:36you know what? When we started doing the show
- 2:55:37together, Speedy I, I at the end of the show, I would ask him
- 2:55:40five weird questions. It didn't matter if it was
- 2:55:43players or it would be analysts. I see Reno, we'll get them in.
- 2:55:47But I, I, but I want to finish this.
- 2:55:51The funny thing is, is that most guys like, liked it.
- 2:55:55They, they enjoyed the craziness and, and some of the questions I
- 2:55:58asked them. And I'll never forget the
- 2:56:00question, who was who was the broadcaster that we had Chuck?
- 2:56:03Sworsky. Schwartzky and we never asked
- 2:56:05him to come on the show again. I don't know if he ever will.
- 2:56:07Be yeah, and we'll try like 10 years or something.
- 2:56:11I mean, it's been over 10 years. It's been like 6.
- 2:56:13It was 2020. It's a long time.
- 2:56:16So the question I asked them is, and this is what scared them
- 2:56:21away. I said, if you were a woman and
- 2:56:24you had to dress up as a woman to go out in public, what would
- 2:56:28you wear? And he looked at me.
- 2:56:31He looked up, he shook his head, gave me one of these, looks like
- 2:56:34he wanted to kill me. And he said, well, I hope the
- 2:56:37show does well in the future. Thanks for letting me.
- 2:56:40Come on. We'll talk to you.
- 2:56:42Hopefully I'll talk to you soon. And he got off.
- 2:56:45He got off this the the video feed.
- 2:56:49It was a fun. It was the forward.
- 2:56:50At that time we didn't even have any videos.
- 2:56:51We didn't even see a reaction. We got it.
- 2:56:54Well, the reaction was pretty straightforward.
- 2:56:57I mean, I mean, it was there. I'd only have to look at a face
- 2:57:01to know what he was doing. You know, he probably wanted to
- 2:57:03kill me anyways. That's something I always
- 2:57:07remember and never forget what happened to Reno?
- 2:57:10No, he's in. He's in all.
- 2:57:11Right, let's put the let's put the old Johnster in look.
- 2:57:15Up please. And there's the kid I mean.
- 2:57:17Sorry, yeah, I'm here. There you are.
- 2:57:19I hear it. I hear it.
- 2:57:21You can't. You can see your face up buddy.
- 2:57:24There you go, let's see, There it is.
- 2:57:26Let's sing a song. To you, it hit our night, ran
- 2:57:28away from us, it ran away from us.
- 2:57:30So we're doing bad time right now, but I got a couple games
- 2:57:34for tomorrow. I don't want to give you what's.
- 2:57:37Your son's name? What's your son's name?
- 2:57:40It's Camden. Camden.
- 2:57:41I like that name. I like.
- 2:57:43That yeah, I'm still doing my work for tomorrow.
- 2:57:46I do have two games I like that I'm going to give out.
- 2:57:52Is it one of the games right there?
- 2:57:54For more plays, that's not grandpa.
- 2:57:58Do I look well? Thank you.
- 2:58:02Thank you, Camden, for Grandpa. Hold on one second.
- 2:58:12You can you can cherry toy is that great cherry toy pick up
- 2:58:16toy. All right, I'm going to give
- 2:58:19out. I'll go right now.
- 2:58:20I'll get out two boys I got OK, bye.
- 2:58:23I got I got Illinois Harry, so just two boys.
- 2:58:29I got Illinois winning the game against Michigan.
- 2:58:33I think it's a great spot. You're getting a point and 1/2
- 2:58:36at home. They're probably the better team
- 2:58:37on that court. And it was also coming off a
- 2:58:40couple games where they probably misperformed.
- 2:58:42So Michigan's coming off. They're pretty much a number one
- 2:58:46seed lock, kind of a favorite to win it all that bad loss to do,
- 2:58:50but it's a good loss to do. I'm not sure how they're going
- 2:58:52to bounce back from that. I think Illinois wins the game.
- 2:58:55The other one is are we going to get a team to go 29 and O?
- 2:58:59Absolutely. I think the team goes 29.
- 2:59:01I know the craziest part about Miami is there's conversation
- 2:59:06and they do not win their tournament.
- 2:59:09They're a bubble team. They are if they put up against
- 2:59:13Auburn, Auburn's got better. Quad one wins.
- 2:59:16Miami has no quad one or quad two wins.
- 2:59:19It's kind of a a weird season for them.
- 2:59:23I like the over in tomorrow's game.
- 2:59:24It's 161 1/2. They have and and many of their
- 2:59:28games they allow teams to stick around.
- 2:59:31They play at a very fast pace that allows the other team to
- 2:59:34shoot at a high volume in a high clip.
- 2:59:36Now they're also going to score a lot of points.
- 2:59:39They got to get to 90, but this is a team that's scored 90 and
- 2:59:42scored a hundred a couple a few times this year.
- 2:59:44They scored a lot of points. They just their defense is not
- 2:59:47as good either. It's Miami, Ohio teams, a great
- 2:59:50story, but they were remind me of a couple years ago that
- 2:59:53Murray State Racers team that went undefeated into the
- 2:59:55tournament. I want to say they lost the
- 2:59:58first game in that tournament as well.
- 3:00:00They got there and then they're like 11 seed or something.
- 3:00:02They lost the first game. That's this that Miami team.
- 3:00:05So give me the over in their game tomorrow.
- 3:00:07Give me Illinois and a little bit of a slight underdog roll to
- 3:00:10win that game. Just two spots today.
- 3:00:12I'm still, you know, with basketball because sometimes the
- 3:00:15spread doesn't come out with enough time.
- 3:00:19Johnny, we actually have a segment we do usually on
- 3:00:21Thursdays call your shot and actually use that Miami last
- 3:00:25week as I I called it where they wouldn't win the conference.
- 3:00:29They would not win the conference.
- 3:00:31I think they win the conference. I will say there's a lot of
- 3:00:34games that they've got a double overtime win here.
- 3:00:39They were they, they won a game by like 3.
- 3:00:41They were failed by 14 in like there's a lot of games where
- 3:00:44they're just kind of like they're letting teams hang
- 3:00:46around very dangerous in tournament time, especially in
- 3:00:49the in the conference tournament.
- 3:00:51I do think that Akron is probably their best chance.
- 3:00:54I think Akron can win that conference.
- 3:00:56I I think Akron's probably going to go in probably favored.
- 3:00:59If you look at their strength of schedule out of conference, they
- 3:01:02probably had a tougher out of conference schedule.
- 3:01:04So I think Akron can win the conference for sure.
- 3:01:07But if that's the case and Miami goes undefeated into the
- 3:01:12conference and they probably meet them in the semis or the
- 3:01:15finals and lose, there's there's no way you keep them out.
- 3:01:20They would be at that .32 and one they shouldn't, they got to
- 3:01:24be in the tournament. Well, I I want to tell you
- 3:01:26something. So I've been fasting since
- 3:01:28midnight last night. And when you said spread, I
- 3:01:31thought you said bread and I was about to kill you.
- 3:01:34OK. So I, I just want to let you
- 3:01:36know that I'm starving right now.
- 3:01:38And I hear bread. And then your son Camden says,
- 3:01:41is that grandpa? I mean, come on, man.
- 3:01:43What that Do I look that old? Seriously.
- 3:01:48I mean I thought I looked pretty young and now he calls me as
- 3:01:51that grandpa. What does grandpa look like?
- 3:01:54Grandpa, how? How old are you, Barrel?
- 3:01:57Let's put it that way. I'm probably the same age as
- 3:01:59you, you know, so. I'm 30. 8 All right, so I'm a
- 3:02:04little bit older than you. I'm 43.
- 3:02:06OK, Yeah, yeah, right there. Grandpa's grandpa.
- 3:02:09He's a younger grandpa. He's in his 50s.
- 3:02:11Yeah. Well, I'm not Grandpa.
- 3:02:12Tell, tell your son, Camden, you know, lay off on that layoff.
- 3:02:16On that technically, technically you could be, I look, I have, I
- 3:02:19have another son that's 19 and I if he had, if he good thing he
- 3:02:24didn't, but at this point like he could have and I would have
- 3:02:27been a 37 year old, 38 year old grandpa.
- 3:02:29So it's the age to be in today's world.
- 3:02:34Oh well, today's world is not my world yet.
- 3:02:38I'm not even a dad yet. I'm being called Grandpa.
- 3:02:43Skip this generation. And you know what, while we're
- 3:02:46talking one last play, I'm I'm thinking I'm just talking it
- 3:02:49through right now. Take the spread in that Miami,
- 3:02:52OH game. Give me the plus points on the
- 3:02:54on the visitor, on the home team, on the home team.
- 3:02:58I think they do hang around this game.
- 3:02:59Miami of Ohio has let teams hang around all year.
- 3:03:01So add that little that could be your parlay piece.
- 3:03:04Get that little plus 12 1/2, get some good value out in 3 plays,
- 3:03:08then we'll take the over in that game.
- 3:03:10We'll take that plus the plus points to the home side and
- 3:03:13we'll take the Illinois money line.
- 3:03:15We'll take that would be 3 games.
- 3:03:17And maybe we'll take Wes that he grew some hair.
- 3:03:19Wes is actually at a murder mystery party right now.
- 3:03:22I believe it. You know those are fun.
- 3:03:24Yeah. Those are.
- 3:03:25Those are. Those are a lot of fun.
- 3:03:27Good for Wes. I mean, he needs he needs the
- 3:03:29time to just relax. I mean, he's just that guy
- 3:03:34doesn't stop. Are y'all doing a Vegas show?
- 3:03:37A Vegas March Madness show. Maybe we will.
- 3:03:40Maybe we'll. Bobby in Vegas.
- 3:03:42All right, there you go. Screw you, fish.
- 3:03:47That is definitely not me. I kind of feel like that right
- 3:03:53now. I'm so hungry.
- 3:03:57Meryl, I told it to draw you as a grandpa in like the streets of
- 3:04:01Les Mis. I look like for bread.
- 3:04:02I look like Bill Murray. That's what I look like.
- 3:04:05That looks like Bill Murray. I.
- 3:04:08Could I could see that? I look like Bill Murray right
- 3:04:10there. Come on, man.
- 3:04:14Anyways, thank you, Fish, for making me even more sicker to my
- 3:04:17stomach. Anyways, Yeah, what a show.
- 3:04:21What a show. Cash those tickets, boy.
- 3:04:23Anyways, Reno, Johnny Camden saying that I look like a
- 3:04:27grandpa. I mean, and then, you know, he
- 3:04:32said spread, but I thought he said bread.
- 3:04:34I was a little hungry. There, Why wait?
- 3:04:35Why are you fasting? I had to get it.
- 3:04:37I, I, if you, you know, if you listen to the beginning of the
- 3:04:40show, I'm getting a colonoscopy tomorrow, so.
- 3:04:43Don't think can't do that. Can't they do that shoot with
- 3:04:44blood nowadays? Yeah, well, screw them.
- 3:04:47They're pissing me off. I'm.
- 3:04:48I'm hungry, man. I could bite somebody's head
- 3:04:50off. I Speedy, you know I'm not going
- 3:04:53to say it on live radio. I don't get myself into trouble
- 3:04:55here. There we go.
- 3:04:58I look fat in that picture, Fish.
- 3:04:59What the hell is that all bad? I look like I'm.
- 3:05:02Hi fellas, I'll see y'all. Have a good night.
- 3:05:06See you later, bro. So I look fat in that picture.
- 3:05:09What kind of picture is that? I mean, you put up a grandpa
- 3:05:14picture. I look like Bill Murray, then
- 3:05:17there it is. That's Bill Murray, not me with
- 3:05:20a Yankee hat on, by the way. He's a Cubs fan, you know, so
- 3:05:24And that's. How we know it's you in the
- 3:05:28future? That's not me.
- 3:05:29When you're fasting for a future.
- 3:05:31Colonoscopy, I am well, listen, I am not doing this again for a
- 3:05:35while after this. I'm done.
- 3:05:38I'm done with the colonoscopy clap and I'm sticking tubes up
- 3:05:41my ass and, you know, fishing whatever they're fishing.
- 3:05:44This is just the foreplay you're dealing with right now.
- 3:05:46Oh. Thank you.
- 3:05:47I mean, that's foreplay, all right?
- 3:05:49I'm starving. That's foreplay, all right?
- 3:05:52I'm, I'm lost, dude. I am hungry.
- 3:05:55My stomach has been growling. I've been drinking water.
- 3:05:57I've been in and out of the bathroom like 7-8 times during
- 3:06:00this show. No, that's that's that's crazy.
- 3:06:02Probably three times, all right? All I've been doing is drinking
- 3:06:05water and piss it. I mean, what kind of, what kind
- 3:06:08of fairness is this for me? I'm yelling at the doctor
- 3:06:11tomorrow when I wake up from that that sleep.
- 3:06:13Because the first thing you see, you don't see the doctor when
- 3:06:16you're laying down and they put you to sleep.
- 3:06:18But you see the doctor standing there right over your head when
- 3:06:21you wake up and your eyes open up and I'm going to be like, you
- 3:06:23motherfucker, I'm going to choke him or something.
- 3:06:26I mean, this, this guy is making me sick to my stomach.
- 3:06:30Then I'm going to be like, Brittany, take me to a diner.
- 3:06:32I need to eat like two or three meals.
- 3:06:37Dude, this is ridiculous. It's not fair to me.
- 3:06:40This isn't fair. I'm starving.
- 3:06:42What are you going to eat when you're finally done with this?
- 3:06:44Well, I like my grilled cheese, but maybe we'll go to Denny's
- 3:06:48and have some nice delicious. Denny's.
- 3:06:51I love Denny's. Yeah, I love it.
- 3:06:52What, You don't like Denny's? What's wrong with Denny's?
- 3:06:55Do you want me to? No, I good thing I don't want to
- 3:06:58know. I mean, I know the guy that runs
- 3:07:00the Denny's by us and they're very clean.
- 3:07:02And so I don't know what you're going to say, but I don't want
- 3:07:06to throw up, so let's keep at that, all right?
- 3:07:08Give all water again. You're not going to throw up.
- 3:07:10What? Are you trying to do here?
- 3:07:11I haven't gotten to dance as well.
- 3:07:13Grand Slam breakfast at 4:00 in the morning When I was in
- 3:07:15college, Denny's was clutch. That's my nice thing to say.
- 3:07:18Oh. Thank you.
- 3:07:20My nice thing to say is every time I ask for more toast, they
- 3:07:23give me like a slew of it. They give me like a loaf of
- 3:07:25toast. And I'm like, who's eating this?
- 3:07:28I mean, like, and they're like you said you wanted, you know,
- 3:07:31two more pieces. Like I didn't want a loaf.
- 3:07:33So that's the only thing I could say about Denny's that I didn't
- 3:07:36like. Anyways, we call this in like
- 3:07:38flame. Go with my lady.
- 3:07:40I've often heard that you'd give me a warm welcome if ever we met
- 3:07:42again. In like flan flan flan.
- 3:07:50So ladies and gentlemen, me and Fish were going back and forth
- 3:07:54and Fish was like, you know, Bleacher Report came out with
- 3:07:57their top ten players right now if.
- 3:08:01They Errol the the ringer not I'm sorry it was my mistake
- 3:08:04earlier. Is the ringer not Bleacher?
- 3:08:05Report I'm sorry the ringer came up with their top ten players
- 3:08:09right now in the NBA right now as we look towards the you know
- 3:08:15the All Star break and now you know the rest of the season is
- 3:08:20is up for grabs. So I'm I'm going to go through
- 3:08:23their top ten and I'm going to rate them my way because I'm
- 3:08:27sure my way is completely different from theirs.
- 3:08:30So at #10 they have Donovan Mitchell.
- 3:08:36Donovan Mitchell, yeah, I wouldn't say Donovan Mitchell at
- 3:08:40#10 right now. I would put the one I'm trying
- 3:08:46to, you know what, I'm going to do it.
- 3:08:48Screw it. I'm going to put Jaylen Brown.
- 3:08:51At #10 Jaylen Brown has had a sensational year.
- 3:08:54He's been the leader. He's going to be up for an MVP
- 3:08:56this year. He's not going to win it, but
- 3:08:58he's he's averaging 29.1 points per game.
- 3:09:01He's been the team leader. Tatum's been gone.
- 3:09:03He's shooting his his, his percentage.
- 3:09:05His shooting percentage is, is at a high clip right now.
- 3:09:07His three-point percentage has been up.
- 3:09:09He's been a very good rebound this year, a rebound of this
- 3:09:12year. So I would have Jaylen Brown as
- 3:09:16my #10. You're kidding, He's already a
- 3:09:19lot for LJ MVP. Yeah.
- 3:09:20Well, that's a whole story at #9 They have Kade Cunningham now.
- 3:09:29I think Kate Cunningham is a little bit higher than this.
- 3:09:31I wouldn't say #9 The Ringer is on drugs.
- 3:09:34So at number at #9 I would put Donovan Mitchell.
- 3:09:40Donovan Mitchell's been great this year, but a great offensive
- 3:09:44player for the Cleveland Cavaliers.
- 3:09:45Played a little bit different, has more assists this year than
- 3:09:48he did last year. He's become a really good team
- 3:09:51leader for them. So I would put Donovan Mitchell
- 3:09:54at #9 at #8 they have Steph Curry.
- 3:09:57First of all. Steph Curry is not a part of my
- 3:09:59top 10. He has missed a significant
- 3:10:01amount of time. You cannot put this guy in my
- 3:10:04top ten. You can put him in the top 10.
- 3:10:06This is all the Steph Curry lovers, and I'm sorry he's not
- 3:10:10in the top ten. He's missed a significant amount
- 3:10:12of time. I drafted him in our fantasy
- 3:10:14league, but I still wouldn't put him there.
- 3:10:17So at #8 I would have Kawhi Leonard.
- 3:10:23Kawhi Leonard has been sensational right now for the
- 3:10:25Clippers. I, he has done everything right
- 3:10:29to, to be in this position and I, I think he's been a really
- 3:10:32good offensive player and that's why they traded James Harden
- 3:10:35because Kawhi is having a great year.
- 3:10:36Now. Do they trade Kawhi Leonard or
- 3:10:39does he go to free agency next year only?
- 3:10:41I think he goes to free agency because he's having a great year
- 3:10:44and maybe that's why he's having a great year.
- 3:10:46So Kawhi Leonard eight at #7 I would have Anthony Edwards.
- 3:10:52They have Kawhi Leonard at #7 I have Kawhi at 8, so I'm putting
- 3:10:59Anthony Edwards at #7 Anthony Edwards has been sensational.
- 3:11:04He really has been, but he's been up and down all season
- 3:11:07long. Blaming players when team, you
- 3:11:09know, the team isn't playing well.
- 3:11:11That's been a big problem. But Anthony Edwards is as good
- 3:11:14as any offensive player right now in the NBA.
- 3:11:17He is athletically gifted. He can do all the things that
- 3:11:20you want your superstar player to do, and he's taking his team
- 3:11:23all the way to a final. But we'll see what this team
- 3:11:26does in the the the last three or four weeks of the season.
- 3:11:29If this team becomes playoff bound and it's contender in the
- 3:11:33playoffs, only time will tell. And Anthony Edwards has to be
- 3:11:37the most important part to that roster.
- 3:11:39If that happens at number six, they have Anthony Edwards at
- 3:11:43number six and I have no idea how this guy is not in the top
- 3:11:4610. Jalen Bronson has been one of
- 3:11:49the best offensive players in the NBA all season long.
- 3:11:53He's going to be up for MVP. He's going to get I, I don't
- 3:11:56know if he's going to get #1 votes, but he's going to get #2
- 3:11:58votes and #3 votes. He has been as good as any point
- 3:12:01guard in the Eastern Conference. You can argue Kate Cunningham
- 3:12:04has been a little bit better. I don't know if I would say that
- 3:12:07he's been better. Jayla Brunson is the leader of
- 3:12:09that team, the captain of Team Madison Square Garden, and the
- 3:12:12Knicks are playing as well as they have.
- 3:12:14Jalen Brunson should be on this list.
- 3:12:15So I completely disagree. He's number six.
- 3:12:18He's on this list, not Steph Curry at #5 Giannis.
- 3:12:23They have Giannis. Usually if Giannis is playing, I
- 3:12:28put him in the top. I think he's higher than top
- 3:12:30five. This is one pick that I would
- 3:12:32agree with them, even if he's missed a significant amount of
- 3:12:35time. You cannot keep him out of the
- 3:12:36top ten. He when he's in the game, he's
- 3:12:39as good as anybody in the league.
- 3:12:40He's averaging 30 points. He's averaging a ton of
- 3:12:43rebounds, 9 or 10 rebounds a game.
- 3:12:45I mean, he's, he's as good as any guy in the league at his
- 3:12:48position. I, I, you can't keep him out of
- 3:12:50the top, top 10. So Giannis, I would, I would
- 3:12:53agree with him at #4 they have Luca now.
- 3:12:58I'm sorry, Luca Doncic is is a little bit better they So I
- 3:13:04think Victor Webinama has been the 4th best player in the
- 3:13:07league. He's been sensational.
- 3:13:09He's he's a great shot blocker. He's the best in the league.
- 3:13:12He's a great defensive player because of his stilt legs and
- 3:13:15his offensive ability, shooting 3 ball handling at 7 foot four.
- 3:13:19And he's been remarkable. He really has.
- 3:13:21He's been better than I thought he was going to be.
- 3:13:23Michael Jordan asked. Not a chance, but a great
- 3:13:25player. He's one of the elite players in
- 3:13:27the NBA. You can build your roster and
- 3:13:29your team with with him on it. So webbing, I'm a fourth best
- 3:13:33player. The number 3 is Luka Doncic.
- 3:13:35There's no question Luka has been the third best player in
- 3:13:39the league. He usually is a top three
- 3:13:41player. He's been a top three player
- 3:13:42over the last, you know, three years.
- 3:13:46Here's the problem. How the hell does Dallas trade a
- 3:13:49top three player for a bag of bones?
- 3:13:52And I mean, Anthony Davis is a bag of bones.
- 3:13:54It makes no sense. A bag of broken bones, yeah.
- 3:13:57It, it makes no sense how Luka Doncic goes to the Lakers for
- 3:14:00the garbage that they traded for.
- 3:14:02Makes no sense. It, I mean, honestly, it's a
- 3:14:05smack in the face for any GM to think that that was a good move
- 3:14:09or I, I mean, everybody's mouth dropped when that came out and
- 3:14:12it was reported. It was pathetic.
- 3:14:15So Luka Doncic, third best player in the league, no doubt.
- 3:14:17And that's why LeBron might be right.
- 3:14:19He should have shot the ball, But that's about the only thing
- 3:14:22LeBron has been right about as far as I'm concerned at #2 they
- 3:14:25have Shay Gilchrist, Alexander, I would agree with them.
- 3:14:31He's been the second best player in the league.
- 3:14:33He's been amazing. He really has.
- 3:14:34He's not going to play 60 semi games.
- 3:14:36He's not going to win the MVP this year.
- 3:14:39But I, I, I, I would say he's been sensational.
- 3:14:42I mean, he is the best point guard in the NBI.
- 3:14:45Don't think you can argue. And, and that goes back to the
- 3:14:47Clippers. What the hell were they?
- 3:14:49I mean, 2, two teams and two organizations going completely
- 3:14:55the opposite way. I mean, honestly, but Gilchrist
- 3:14:58Alexander was traded for Paul George.
- 3:15:01Remember that? And boy, oh boy, I'm, I'm
- 3:15:05thinking, OK, C has been the the aggressor and the subset, you
- 3:15:10know, the team that's dominated in that pic.
- 3:15:12So. And don't forget Jaylen
- 3:15:14Williams. That's right.
- 3:15:15That's true. That's true too.
- 3:15:16I mean, think about that. Anyways, Wolf is right and at #1
- 3:15:21I think he's been the best player in the NBA for the last
- 3:15:25seven years. Got robbed last year.
- 3:15:26And I'm not GI mean SGA. I'm not taking shots at SGA.
- 3:15:31I'm not. He had a great season, MVP.
- 3:15:34I'm giving it to this man. This man has been the best all
- 3:15:39around player. Triple double machine.
- 3:15:41Is he a great defender? No, he's OK.
- 3:15:45But his offensive ability and what he could do on the court,
- 3:15:49he could stay on the court for a significant amount of time at
- 3:15:52his weight. He's not athletically gifted as
- 3:15:54you can see his body tone, it's definitely not.
- 3:15:57I mean, you could see his stomach jiggle sometimes when
- 3:15:59he's running down the court, but this guy is one of the best
- 3:16:02passers at his. He's the best passer at his
- 3:16:05position I've ever seen. He's versatile in many different
- 3:16:09ways as an offensive player. Big man besides Carl Anthony
- 3:16:14Towns, this guy is probably the second best big man, 3 point
- 3:16:17shooter in the league. Rebounding machine.
- 3:16:20I I don't think you can argue this guy's the best player in
- 3:16:23the league and I don't think you can argue that he's going to win
- 3:16:26the MVP this year. Nicola Yokich is the best player
- 3:16:30and has been the best player in a in a seven-year stand.
- 3:16:34And I think they're right about these two guys.
- 3:16:37But everything else I would have a backlash and argue and, and
- 3:16:40the Giannis, I would say 1-2 and five.
- 3:16:44They were right about it. Everything else completely
- 3:16:46wrong, completely wrong. And, and the fact that they have
- 3:16:49Steph Curry on this list, it's just ridiculous.
- 3:16:53I, I, I don't get it. Yeah, that's all I'm gonna say
- 3:16:57about that. And I think everybody would
- 3:16:59agree with me on this. And.
- 3:17:00Definitely the top five, yeah. Yeah, I think you don't agree
- 3:17:05with me on some of the other ones.
- 3:17:07All you're not saying. No, no, I'm saying for their
- 3:17:08list. All right, the top.
- 3:17:10No, I'm with you on Steph Curry. Steph Curry should not be on
- 3:17:13that list. Yeah, I mean, I don't get it.
- 3:17:15And how does Jayla Brunson not make this this group he's been
- 3:17:19as? Good.
- 3:17:20I looked at that list and I sent it to you because they he wasn't
- 3:17:23in that top ten and I had to hear what you to say.
- 3:17:25I agree with you. I don't know if I put Brunson
- 3:17:27ahead of Cade. I would it's I think it's those
- 3:17:29two it like 6 or 7 and. You want me to tell you why I
- 3:17:32would put Brunson over Cade? And I know everybody puts Cade
- 3:17:35because of what Detroit's doing right now.
- 3:17:37I just think that playing in Madison Square Garden, the
- 3:17:39pressure that this guy has on him being the captain of the New
- 3:17:42York Knicks, it's a little bit more harsher than playing in
- 3:17:45Detroit. And it's a lost city that
- 3:17:48nobody, no offense to Detroit fans, nobody cares about.
- 3:17:51So as we all know, no offense, I'm not taking shots at Detroit
- 3:17:55fans. I'm just saying when you think
- 3:17:58of basketball towns and cities, Detroit's more of a hockey town
- 3:18:03and a hockey city than it is a basketball.
- 3:18:07I'm not taking shots at Detroit fans.
- 3:18:09Take that. Me being fair to you guys, they
- 3:18:13still to me, they're not a basketball town.
- 3:18:16That's all. That's it.
- 3:18:18I feel bad saying that. I don't want to hurt anybody's
- 3:18:20feelings. Yeah, I do.
- 3:18:21I don't give crap. Anyways, I'm just telling you
- 3:18:25the truth. Anyways.
- 3:18:26What's that smell? Yeah.
- 3:18:28Hold up, what is that smell? What's that?
- 3:18:34Smell. Wow, you don't see that every
- 3:18:38day. Yeah, it's just been a crazy
- 3:18:40one. Yeah, it definitely has.
- 3:18:42And being called somebody's grandpa and somebody, it seems
- 3:18:48like everybody's speaking or just I smell food.
- 3:18:51So I'm. I'm hungry.
- 3:18:52Britney's cooking, but I can't eat any of it.
- 3:18:55So that makes me sick. If it's lactose intolerance, you
- 3:18:59can't have Alfredo sauce bro. Yeah.
- 3:19:01Well, I can't have anything, so it's not fair to me.
- 3:19:05I get to watch her eat. All right?
- 3:19:07That makes me feel good, you know?
- 3:19:09Anyways, all right, so what's that smell?
- 3:19:12Tonight we're going to go. So if you guys don't know the
- 3:19:15rules of the game, it's pretty simple.
- 3:19:17We're going to tell you a story and we're going to tell you what
- 3:19:18it smells like. And Speedy has some of the most
- 3:19:20awkward smells. Oh yeah, you're right.
- 3:19:23You'll definitely get one from me tonight.
- 3:19:24I'm sure we will. All right, so we'll go.
- 3:19:28Tommy Fish, Speedy B. Here we go, all.
- 3:19:33Right, so I'm going to go over to some WWE, but not necessarily
- 3:19:38into the world or the ring of wrestling.
- 3:19:40You see, I'm going to be talking about former CEO Vince McMahon
- 3:19:44because I don't know if anybody recently saw, but over the last
- 3:19:47week, a video of emerged the body Cam video of police
- 3:19:52officers and his interaction between a car crash that was
- 3:19:55actually reported with McMahon this past summer.
- 3:19:58Now Vince McMahon, who is now 80, was driving a 2024 Bentley.
- 3:20:03At more than 100 mph on Merritt Parkway over in Westport,
- 3:20:07according to the state police now McMahon was accelerating
- 3:20:10away, then braking too late to avoid crashing into the back of
- 3:20:15a BMW. His Bentley then swerved into a
- 3:20:18guardrail, careening into the back of the highway or back
- 3:20:21cross of the highway, creating even a cloud.
- 3:20:23Dirt and car parts going all around.
- 3:20:26Thank you fish very much. But this this is the aftermath
- 3:20:29of when the cop eventually made contact with Vince McMahon.
- 3:20:32Now, I was talking with Errol about it as well too.
- 3:20:34But I don't know if, you know, Vince McMahon was a little bit
- 3:20:38of indulging of extracurricular activities before driving or a
- 3:20:41little bit on the, you know, little bit on the zooted side or
- 3:20:44whatnot. But it was a very interesting
- 3:20:46car crash that a lot of people are calling him spoiled or I
- 3:20:50mean, hey, this is a billionaire.
- 3:20:51This is a billionaire, man. I mean, it must be, must be
- 3:20:54pretty easy to get in a car accident and be a billionaire,
- 3:20:56have everything go away with it without the trace of a of even
- 3:21:00an accident being there anymore. But yeah, Vince McMahon being in
- 3:21:03a three car accident, I don't know what to say.
- 3:21:05This man is over 80 years old, and it couldn't have happened to
- 3:21:08either one of the most controversial persons in the
- 3:21:11world today of sports. So what does that smell like?
- 3:21:14Well, it's got to smell like the diaper that Vince McMahon
- 3:21:17currently wears on himself, and he was probably driving home to
- 3:21:21change it himself. So that's going to be what it
- 3:21:24smells like today. Fat McMahon.
- 3:21:26I mean, did you see how fat he looked in that picture?
- 3:21:28That dude looks all kinds of interesting nowadays.
- 3:21:33You know, you see, you see a picture of him and it almost
- 3:21:36looks like it's a yeah. You see one with him of a cane.
- 3:21:38You see one with him out of shape now and now in a car
- 3:21:41accident so. I'll do my famous impression of
- 3:21:44Vince McMahon. You're fired.
- 3:21:46That's pretty. That's pretty good.
- 3:21:50That's pretty good one. All right, I'm going to go to
- 3:21:52football guys. And this one, it's just, it's
- 3:21:56almost like it's like we could have saw this coming.
- 3:22:00The Colts have given quarterback Anthony Richardson senior
- 3:22:03permission to seek a trade. Yes, not even able to battle
- 3:22:10Daniel Jones who has a torn Achilles and no contract with
- 3:22:15the team. They are not going to even give
- 3:22:19Anthony Richardson senior. I believe he was drafted either
- 3:22:234th or 5th speedy, something like that top five pick a few
- 3:22:27years back. He had never really played like
- 3:22:31like more than like. I don't think he played a full
- 3:22:34college season at any point in time while he was there.
- 3:22:36He played less than like two seasons of football when like
- 3:22:39total in his like life after high school didn't work out.
- 3:22:44Shocker. But the Colts saying that
- 3:22:47they're trying to trade him as if someone is going to take him
- 3:22:54for any amount of money. But then it gets better.
- 3:22:59The rumors are the Vikings are interested because the Vikings
- 3:23:04who had Sam Darnold decided to give him up for JJ McCarthy, who
- 3:23:09apparently also can't play football that well in the NFL
- 3:23:14level at least. So what is all that smell like?
- 3:23:17It smells like a colt taking a huge pile of horse crap all over
- 3:23:23the Viking boat and then they sail out the sea like Vikings
- 3:23:27do. Like that aiming arrow and make
- 3:23:29it stink for all to smell. You know fish, you know fish.
- 3:23:33I actually looked real quick. His only full complete season
- 3:23:38over in college was his last year in 2022 and he was one game
- 3:23:42short of having a complete season 1 game short.
- 3:23:45And it's it's you guys were mentioning 4th overall pick.
- 3:23:48I don't know. His numbers weren't all that
- 3:23:49great to be 4th overall. I don't understand.
- 3:23:51We all knew he was wrong. Yeah, I don't.
- 3:23:52I don't understand what we're doing, but.
- 3:23:56All right, so I'll shift to some baseball here.
- 3:23:58Don't worry, Errol, this is something that you wouldn't eat
- 3:24:00anyway because it's nasty. So I get this one.
- 3:24:04I get this e-mail because I follow Anthony to come home with
- 3:24:06the New York Mets. He has a lot of prospect
- 3:24:08newsletters. One of them is Ryan Lambert, who
- 3:24:11is a pitching prospect. So apparently it comes out that
- 3:24:14him two years ago decided to increase his velocity with a
- 3:24:19diet that consisted of eating 30 raw eggs per day in a span of
- 3:24:25over a month. Allegedly, it's going to improve
- 3:24:27his velocity. Now, the results did speak for
- 3:24:29it a little. He's up to 99.6 in spring
- 3:24:31training now. OK, great.
- 3:24:33Yeah, we'll see if you actually could develop as a pitcher.
- 3:24:36You want to claim it's because you were eating a bunch of raw
- 3:24:38eggs? It was freaking nasty yolks.
- 3:24:40You're going to eat thirty of those a day a month?
- 3:24:43Yeah. Good luck with hopefully that
- 3:24:44you can make you a roster spot on this team that already
- 3:24:46doesn't have a lot of pitching anyway.
- 3:24:48Hopefully a raw eggs did you? Because you're probably not
- 3:24:50going to make the team. So what does it smell like?
- 3:24:53It smells like Noah Syndergaard, another guy that tried to
- 3:24:55increase his velocity by working out, and Matt Harvey, who fall
- 3:24:58off a Cliff after he tried to increase his velocity bathing in
- 3:25:02a tub of raw eggs the size of Daniel Vogelbach.
- 3:25:05The gross sexual action of cream on somebody's face and this.
- 3:25:08One's like all that. Now cream would be probably
- 3:25:12generous with any of you midwives.
- 3:25:15Oh God, I hope there's no intimacy in that freaking tub of
- 3:25:20raw eggs. Beneficial anyways, all right,
- 3:25:30my final what's that smell goes to Charlotte's con canoople.
- 3:25:35He reached yet another milestone in his remarkable rookie season
- 3:25:39for the number four pick out of Duke.
- 3:25:43The Hornet swing man broke Keegan Murray's NBA rookie
- 3:25:48record for three pointers, making his 207th on Thursday
- 3:25:54night against the Indiana Pacers.
- 3:25:56Canoople connected on five threes in the first half and
- 3:26:01then broke the record in the third.
- 3:26:03Quarter. And you know, it comes back to
- 3:26:07having Cooper Flag and Con Canoople in the final four with
- 3:26:1314 point lead with three minutes left to go and choking.
- 3:26:20Yeah. And I'm arguing.
- 3:26:22I'm not going to mention any names in off air.
- 3:26:25They know who I'm talking about. Telling me.
- 3:26:27I'm going to say Jeff telling me that Shire is an unbelievable
- 3:26:33coach and everybody should give him props and da, da, da, da,
- 3:26:35da. And I said he was on drugs and
- 3:26:38taking him over Bobby Hurley. And he says, well, what is Bobby
- 3:26:42Hurley? Well, if he goes what it smells
- 3:26:44like, it smells like the wonderful dinner, lunch,
- 3:26:48breakfast I'm going to have after my colonoscopy tomorrow.
- 3:26:52That's what it smells like. It's going to smell nice and
- 3:26:55delicious because my Duke Blue Devils are kicking ass right now
- 3:26:59in the NBA in the Cooper flag and con canupal.
- 3:27:02So it's going to it's going to smell.
- 3:27:05It's going to smell really good and hopefully my Cambusher,
- 3:27:08which I'm getting attacked all of social media about my
- 3:27:11Cambuser dig because everybody thinks the Baisa and and Darren
- 3:27:18Peterson is is a better player. I think they're out of their
- 3:27:21minds and when, you know, two or three years ago in their NBA.
- 3:27:26Careers, I think all. Three of them are going to be
- 3:27:27great players. I'm going to tell you guys who
- 3:27:30is right, who is right because Cam Boozer is by far the best
- 3:27:34player in that class. I don't care what people are
- 3:27:36saying with their athletic ability and all that other crap.
- 3:27:39So I boozer's pretty athletic and very gifted as well.
- 3:27:44So I don't know where they're coming up with all this garbage,
- 3:27:46but we'll see. Anyways, that's it for a show,
- 3:27:49ladies and gentlemen, It it's a it was a wonderful thank you to
- 3:27:51Neil Smith. We love you, Neil.
- 3:27:53I I meant every word I said about you as an NHL or a hockey
- 3:27:58guru. If there's anybody I need to go
- 3:28:00to, to ask a hockey question to, I'm going to Neil because this
- 3:28:04man knows honestly how to build teams and how to build
- 3:28:07championships. So I'm not going to take any
- 3:28:09shots at Neil Smith. And I don't know I any fan, any
- 3:28:13fan, including no, you know, Speedy saying no because I'm,
- 3:28:17he's pretty much protecting Neil.
- 3:28:19Not to, to say that that this guy is is not not born to be in
- 3:28:23the Hall of Fame. This guy should be in the Hall
- 3:28:25of Fame and that the NHL needs to allow this guy to head out to
- 3:28:31Toronto and enjoy that wonderful, wonderful speech he
- 3:28:35will lay on to all the Ranger fans and and all the, you know,
- 3:28:40guys including Mike Keenan to go F himself.
- 3:28:42So yeah. So thank you to Neil Smith, We
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- 3:29:57start to tune in more. That's why we, we go live on, on
- 3:30:01YouTube for you guys. We want you to come and watch us
- 3:30:03live and instead of listening to our record.
- 3:30:06I know I'm not saying everybody's got families.
- 3:30:08They got lives and they, they, they want to drive or they want
- 3:30:11to watch us in a repeat. That's fine.
- 3:30:13That's why podcast podcasting is podcasting.
- 3:30:15But we, we hope that more fans would be tuned into what we're
- 3:30:21doing. We put a great show on for you
- 3:30:22guys. We put a lot of work into it,
- 3:30:24and we want you guys to enjoy all the benefits of watching us
- 3:30:27live because you don't know what's going to happen.
- 3:30:29So just saying anyways, that's it for a show.
- 3:30:33Who do we have on Mondays? Nothing yet.
- 3:30:35Nothing yet. So Speedy's going to Boston to
- 3:30:39enjoy his, you know, Celtic pride.
- 3:30:41And I don't know what he is, but he's going to Boston to hang out
- 3:30:45with his family and hang out with mom, you know, our favorite
- 3:30:48woman, you know. Being intimate with any of you
- 3:30:56minwits. Yeah.
- 3:30:57Well, yeah. Well, or one of these, you know.
- 3:31:00This is a good. One for you, no human.
- 3:31:02Is a beluga whale scientifically proven or this one?
- 3:31:09I like this one. I'm not yanking on a dead man's
- 3:31:11Dick. That is also never going to
- 3:31:13happen. Ever.
- 3:31:15Yeah, there we go anyways. That's speedy, ladies and
- 3:31:18gentlemen, anyways. Well, we'll, we'll talk to.
- 3:31:20You listen to the weekend Crunch.
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- 3:31:43you can watch. You can listen to our show at
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- 3:31:51We're ready to roll and ready to scare the hell out of you,
- 3:31:54including Speedy, as he always reminds us, as human waste.
- 3:31:59Human waste. All right, good night, Fair.
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