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- 0:04Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
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- 0:40Speaker 1: Australian dot com dot U Labor wants to slash the
- 0:48Speaker 1: superannuation of federal judges, but barristers and legal experts say
- 0:52Speaker 1: the new legislation could compromise the judiciary's independence and push
- 0:57Speaker 1: judges to state courts in search of better pay. Iran's
- 1:03Speaker 1: hardline Islamic regime has suffered a major blow after President
- 1:08Speaker 1: Ebrahim Raci was killed in a helicopter crash on Sunday night.
- 1:12Speaker 1: That's the assessment of The Australian's chief international correspondent, Cameron Stewart.
- 1:18Speaker 1: In today's episode, Cam unpacks what Race's death means for
- 1:22Speaker 1: the region, and why conspiracy theories are blossoming. One of
- 1:39Speaker 1: the oldest civilizations on Earth, a society glittering with knowledge
- 1:44Speaker 1: and sophistication, a brutally repressive regime with ambitions to change
- 1:49Speaker 1: the world.
- 1:52Speaker 2: Here for seven minutes, saying comnuncations again, do what you
- 1:58Speaker 2: have to do.
- 2:01Speaker 1: Iran is one of the most mysterious and intriguing places
- 2:05Speaker 1: on Earth, ruled by men who've vowed to destroy Western civilization.
- 2:11Speaker 1: No wonder it's inspired a legion of espionage thrillers, like
- 2:14Speaker 1: the Apple TV series Tehran, which follows a wildly beautiful
- 2:19Speaker 1: young agent of the Israeli spy agency Mossad as she
- 2:23Speaker 1: infiltrates Iran in the attempt to destroy its nuclear program.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Mosart sent me to Tehran on a mission, but then
- 2:33Speaker 1: everything went wrong. We have to go. That's why when
- 2:41Speaker 1: on Sunday night a helicopter carrying Iran's president and foreign
- 2:45Speaker 1: minister went down, thoughts immediately ran to conspiracy. Was this
- 2:50Speaker 1: an assassination? This opone? We need to stop him called.
- 3:02Speaker 1: In Iran's spectacularly beautiful northwest, the rugged mountains give way
- 3:06Speaker 1: to expansive plains when the weather turns those peaks are
- 3:10Speaker 1: covered in thick, heavy fog, and it was into this
- 3:13Speaker 1: fog that the chopper carrying President Ebrahim Raisi and Foreign
- 3:17Speaker 1: Minister Hassin Emir Abdola Jam vanished.
- 3:21Speaker 3: We know that President Ibrahim Raisi was returning to Iran
- 3:25Speaker 3: from a trip to Azerbaijan, where he was inspecting infrastructure
- 3:28Speaker 3: projects when his helicopter crashed in what we've been told
- 3:32Speaker 3: is quite mountainous terrain in a remote part of Iran.
- 3:36Speaker 1: A large scale rescue operations sprang into action, with dogs
- 3:40Speaker 1: and drones to search the areas too dark, too dangerous,
- 3:44Speaker 1: or too difficult for humans to traverse. On Monday, the
- 3:50Speaker 1: chief of Iran's Red Crescent humanitarian organization said the chopper,
- 3:54Speaker 1: which had evaded detection for hours, had been found, but
- 3:58Speaker 1: the situation was not good. I'm joined by the Australian's
- 4:07Speaker 1: chief international correspondent, Cameron Stewart. We're speaking on Monday afternoon,
- 4:11Speaker 1: and this situation is very fluid. Kem, who is Ebrahim Raisi?
- 4:17Speaker 1: What does the president do in Iran?
- 4:20Speaker 2: Claire? The President in Iran is the second most powerful
- 4:23Speaker 2: person in that country. He is subordinate only to the
- 4:26Speaker 2: so called Supreme leader that is Iatola Kamani and ioler.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Kamani sets the parameters of what happens in Iran, the
- 4:36Speaker 2: military policy, political policy, social policy, theocratic policy, etc.
- 4:41Speaker 1: Etc.
- 4:42Speaker 2: And he is appointed by clerics. He's not a popularly
- 4:44Speaker 2: appointed leader, and so it's an authoritarian country. The president
- 4:48Speaker 2: is elected by the public, but they're considered widely to
- 4:51Speaker 2: be sham elections. So therefore the Ayatola, who is a
- 4:56Speaker 2: very conservative religious hardliner, only chooses as his president a
- 5:01Speaker 2: conservative religious hardliners, which is precisely what President Raci was.
- 5:06Speaker 1: As we began speaking, Iranian rescuers announced that they'd found
- 5:11Speaker 1: the wreckage of the helicopter, but no sign so far
- 5:14Speaker 1: of any survivors. What's the context of this in terms
- 5:17Speaker 1: of Iran's capability? Would they have top of the range
- 5:21Speaker 1: helicopters that could fly safely in folly conditions like the
- 5:24Speaker 1: ones that are being reported out of Iran.
- 5:27Speaker 2: Iran has very old equipment in lots of areas, and
- 5:31Speaker 2: surprisingly this helicopter was actually quite old. It's a very
- 5:35Speaker 2: old helicopter. It's one you'd be quite surprised, Frankur that
- 5:37Speaker 2: they put in the president and the foreign minister and
- 5:41Speaker 2: very important officials into it remains to be seen, of course,
- 5:45Speaker 2: the exact cause of the crash. We've seen the vision
- 5:48Speaker 2: and footage, and certainly the weather is very bad. There's
- 5:51Speaker 2: lots of fog and it seems to initially be being
- 5:54Speaker 2: blamed on bad weather. But of course with this sort
- 5:57Speaker 2: of thing, especially with Iran's circumstance at the moment in
- 6:01Speaker 2: the Middle East and the war that we've got with
- 6:03Speaker 2: Hamas Israel, Claire, there will be a lot of conspiracy
- 6:06Speaker 2: thews which you're always already bouncing around the internet.
- 6:14Speaker 1: Let's dive right into those conspiracy theories then, Camp, Why
- 6:17Speaker 1: would Israel be involved in this in any way?
- 6:21Speaker 2: Look Iran and Israel that the long term enmity between
- 6:24Speaker 2: the two countries has really peaked, Claire since the Hamas
- 6:28Speaker 2: Israel conflicts, which began, of course on October seven, and
- 6:32Speaker 2: it is becoming more and more tense. Iran has authorized
- 6:36Speaker 2: its proxies like Espala in Lebanon and also its proxies
- 6:39Speaker 2: in Syria and Iraq to launch short term attacks on
- 6:43Speaker 2: Israel through missiles, et cetera. But last month it really
- 6:47Speaker 2: became extremely heated when Iran launched its first ever direct
- 6:52Speaker 2: attack on Israel hundreds of drones and missiles it fired
- 6:57Speaker 2: towards Israel in retaliation for an Israeli attack on its
- 7:01Speaker 2: forces based in Syria. Now, while that attack was very unsuccessful,
- 7:06Speaker 2: they were all but a handful were actually shot down
- 7:09Speaker 2: by the Israelis before they got to Israel. That was
- 7:13Speaker 2: a real turning point in Iran is Iran's history to
- 7:17Speaker 2: actually make a direct attack on Israel, and I think
- 7:20Speaker 2: that really underlines how under President Raisi and this Islamic regime,
- 7:26Speaker 2: Iran has hardened its position on Israel.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Cam One of the other conspiracy theories is that this
- 7:32Speaker 1: is about the power plays within Iran itself. As you
- 7:36Speaker 1: told us, the supreme leader of Iran is a religious figure,
- 7:40Speaker 1: the Iola Ali Kamena. What are the prospects that with
- 7:43Speaker 1: the apparent death of President Raysi that things changed significantly
- 7:48Speaker 1: in Iran?
- 7:49Speaker 2: There will certainly be a lot of people outside Iran,
- 7:52Speaker 2: Claire who will hope that this will lead to some
- 7:55Speaker 2: form of change. It will certainly lead to a power
- 7:58Speaker 2: struggle within the ruling elite over who actually replaces him.
- 8:02Speaker 2: As presidents under Iranian law, there'll be elections within about
- 8:06Speaker 2: fifty days for a new president, but these elections are
- 8:10Speaker 2: widely considered to be rigged, so it's most likely the
- 8:13Speaker 2: Supreme Leader will choose to a degree who that candidate
- 8:16Speaker 2: might be. But even so, there will be some tensions
- 8:20Speaker 2: within this elite between more liberal forces and the hardliners
- 8:25Speaker 2: as well, and that will be fascinating to see how
- 8:28Speaker 2: that plays out. Whether we actually see any visibility of
- 8:31Speaker 2: those tensions, it's not at all certain that we would,
- 8:34Speaker 2: because things are very much a closed chop in Iran
- 8:37Speaker 2: at that high level. But certainly opponents of Iran's Islamic
- 8:42Speaker 2: clerical system will be hoping that this will lead to
- 8:45Speaker 2: some sort of greater liberalization among the ruling elite. But
- 8:48Speaker 2: I think that is probably a fairly optimistic assumption.
- 8:53Speaker 1: Coming up what raises death means for Iran's many proxy militias.
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- 9:17Speaker 1: and we'll be back after this break. According to State
- 9:28Speaker 1: TV Iran's Supreme leader, Ayatola Ali Khamane, commented publicly on
- 9:33Speaker 1: the helicopter crash that killed President racy late on Sunday.
- 9:37Speaker 1: He said, the nation of Iran should not be worried
- 9:39Speaker 1: and anxious. No disruption will occur in the country's affairs.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Thousands of people, mostly men, took to the streets of
- 9:46Speaker 1: the Iranian capital Tehran on Sunday night to pray for
- 9:49Speaker 1: Racey and his fellow travelers. You Under President Raci, Iran
- 10:00Speaker 1: has hardened its treatment of Iranians too, particularly women. There
- 10:05Speaker 1: have been reports of a serious crackdown on rules like
- 10:08Speaker 1: women wearing hit jobs in public. There have been women
- 10:11Speaker 1: who have disappeared from the streets of Iran after being
- 10:13Speaker 1: photographed not wearing head coverings. In those terms, Cam who
- 10:17Speaker 1: is Ebrahim Rayci? Is he a hardline conservative?
- 10:20Speaker 2: He's a very hardline conservative, So RIALSI. He was the
- 10:23Speaker 2: guy who was basically authorizing that crackdown, and more than
- 10:26Speaker 2: five hundred people died in that terrible street violence that
- 10:31Speaker 2: we saw and pression that occurred towards those protesters. So
- 10:34Speaker 2: I think his death will certainly not be mourned by
- 10:38Speaker 2: a lot of younger Iranians. There's an inherent tension in
- 10:42Speaker 2: Iran today between younger Iranians who love Western clothes, want
- 10:48Speaker 2: a more western lifestyle, want greater freedoms, and the old
- 10:53Speaker 2: Islamic mullers, the ruling elites. Basically, and Rasi represented absolutely
- 11:00Speaker 2: the old style Islamic hardliner, so there will be no
- 11:04Speaker 2: mourning of him from many younger Iranians.
- 11:13Speaker 1: Instability in Iran is obviously a big story for the
- 11:15Speaker 1: whole region and for the world, because Iran controls or
- 11:19Speaker 1: has influence over militias in a whole lot of countries,
- 11:22Speaker 1: from Yemen to Lebanon, to Syria to Iraq. Can we
- 11:27Speaker 1: talk about some of those, for example, in Yemen, that's
- 11:31Speaker 1: where the Huti rebels are based, who have been attacking
- 11:33Speaker 1: shipping in the Red Sea. What do you think his
- 11:36Speaker 1: death will mean for those Iranian proxy forces throughout the
- 11:39Speaker 1: Middle East?
- 11:41Speaker 2: Well, this is probably the most important single question I
- 11:44Speaker 2: think to arise from his death because since the October
- 11:47Speaker 2: seven Israeli Hamas conflict, Iran has played a very curious
- 11:53Speaker 2: role in the sense that it's encouraged its terror proxies
- 11:56Speaker 2: in the region like hes Bollah, and also its proxies
- 11:59Speaker 2: in Iraq and Syria to attack Israel, and in fact
- 12:04Speaker 2: US forces in the region too, but also, as far
- 12:07Speaker 2: as has Bler's concerned, to attack Israel in such a
- 12:10Speaker 2: manner as to really distract Israel, but not actually in
- 12:15Speaker 2: such large degree as to create a larger conflict. So,
- 12:18Speaker 2: in fact, Iran had quite a finely balanced policy of
- 12:22Speaker 2: provoking Israel since October seven with its proxies in the
- 12:27Speaker 2: region without triggering an actual war. Now that is a
- 12:31Speaker 2: deliberate and finally balanced policy coming out of Terehran, coming
- 12:35Speaker 2: out of the Islamic regime there. Now, whether President Raysi's
- 12:39Speaker 2: death will change that balance is a critical question for
- 12:43Speaker 2: the region.
- 12:49Speaker 1: Is there a possibility that this makes everything worse in
- 12:51Speaker 1: the Middle East, that it escalates tensions.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Look, if it were able to be proved or shown
- 13:00Speaker 2: that in fact the crash was a sabotage, I think
- 13:04Speaker 2: that would be a very dangerous situation for the region
- 13:07Speaker 2: if the Islamic regime chose to blame Israel or the
- 13:13Speaker 2: US or a Western country, because that would really ratchet
- 13:17Speaker 2: up the tensions enormously at a time when tensions are
- 13:20Speaker 2: already massive over the Israeli Hamas conflict over the constant
- 13:25Speaker 2: bombing of northern Israel by Hezbollah and the instability on
- 13:30Speaker 2: the West Bank and with the Huthis in Yemen. I mean,
- 13:32Speaker 2: the whole Middle East isn't a tinderbox really, and I
- 13:36Speaker 2: just think that if there was a confirmation that this
- 13:40Speaker 2: was an act of sabotage, that would be a very
- 13:42Speaker 2: dangerous position for the region.
- 13:47Speaker 1: Cameron Stewart is The Australian's chief international correspondent. To read
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