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Twisted Fork 30k & 68k Race Preview & Fantasy Picks · Let's Talk Trail Running

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  hello and welcome back to let's talk trail running this is your
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  host robert prosser
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  and this is the show where we talk about fantasy free trail
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  races and the trail
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  running world both what happened last week in fantasy free
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  trail and upcoming races
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  and also help to make picks for fantasy free trail so once
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  again it's about trail
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  running and trail racing both sub ultra and ultra races
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  whatever pops up on a
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  SPEAKER_00: fantasy free trail is what we talk about
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  SPEAKER_00: And so for today's preview,
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  we're going to talk about the two Twisted Fork races that are
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  going on in Salt Lake
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  SPEAKER_00: City,
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  SPEAKER_00: Utah this weekend,
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  SPEAKER_00: put on by Singletrack's own Finn Melanson,
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  one of the biggest podcast trail running media hosts in kind of
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  our landscape.
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  SPEAKER_00: He hosts the Singletrack podcast.
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  by far one of the favorites if not one of my if not my favorite
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  podcast um and yeah
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  just a really awesome media mind somebody who's really helped
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  to grow the sport and
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  has done a lot of really awesome things for it this is his
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  first crack at putting
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  on a race event and he's doing it in his own backyard trails in
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  salt lake city so
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  SPEAKER_00: he's got a 68k and a 30k so approximately 18 miles and like
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  42 ish miles give or take um so that's what we're going to be
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  previewing today but
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  before we do that kind of looking back on last week and what
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  happened last week we
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  did a preview for the uh or excuse me about two weeks ago we
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  did a preview for the
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  selection race for the u.s up and down the u.s mountain running
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  team for the up and
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  down the classic classic distance that happened at the sun and
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  peace scramble
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  I want to take a quick second to congratulate the men and women
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  trail racers who
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  SPEAKER_00: made both of those U.S.
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  SPEAKER_00: mountaineering teams.
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  SPEAKER_00: On the men's side, we had four make the team.
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  SPEAKER_00: In the first place spot, we had David Norris.
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  SPEAKER_00: Really, really impressive from him.
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  I knew he was a really special racer from his times at Mount
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  Marathon and his
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  result last year in the Cirque Series race he did and finished
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  between Philamont
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  SPEAKER_00: and Patrick.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to lie.
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  I did not know that he had the ability to win this race and
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  against that deep of a field.
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  SPEAKER_00: So kudos to David Norris.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was a really tight top three on the men's side.
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  SPEAKER_00: We had David Norris in like 109.55, I want to say.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mason Copey, I think, was five seconds behind.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then Taylor Stack was another three seconds behind.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that was a really tight and really amazing finish.
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  SPEAKER_00: Those guys were throwing down like four-minute grade,
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  SPEAKER_00: like high fours,
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  SPEAKER_00: mid fours,
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  SPEAKER_00: grade-adjusted pace.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that takes into account the terrain.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it never really knows what the terrain is like.
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  SPEAKER_00: It more takes into account the elevation.
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  SPEAKER_00: So those guys were freaking flying.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it sounds like David Norris,
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  SPEAKER_00: despite losing his shoe,
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  SPEAKER_00: made a really strategic move and just really timed the race right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm really excited to see how he does.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's been trying to make Olympic teams for,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think,
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  SPEAKER_00: cross country or Nordic skiing for a long time,
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  SPEAKER_00: but now he's made a US trail running team,
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  SPEAKER_00: so that's really cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: Second place was Mason Copey.
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  SPEAKER_00: He ran a masterful race.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm really bummed.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't do great on the fantasy pre-trail pick.
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  I pulled him out and put Christian Allen in last minute,
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  and I shouldn't have done that.
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  Christian Allen was coming in off an injury,
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  and Mason Copey was looking really fit.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm disappointed that I doubted him,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I had him in my top five the whole time as high as two,
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  SPEAKER_00: but I kind of panicked last minute,
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  SPEAKER_00: and that kind of tanked my picks,
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  SPEAKER_00: and it dropped me down to sixth overall.
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  Third place,
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  we got Taylor Stack,
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  Brooks trail runner,
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  also ran collegiately.
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  Don't quote me where,
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  but I want to say maybe Colorado State or Colorado School of
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  Mines.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think he ran somewhere in Colorado.
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  SPEAKER_00: Blazing fast time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, just a couple seconds behind Mason.
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  SPEAKER_00: The finish line video is really sick.
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  You can see when David Norris crosses the line,
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  you can see Mason Kobe in the back.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then when Mason Kobe crosses the line,
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  SPEAKER_00: you can see Taylor Stack right behind him,
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  SPEAKER_00: three seconds behind him.
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  SPEAKER_00: Those guys were freaking flying at the end.
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  And then last one to make it,
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  I think within a minute back,
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  was Cam Smith.
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  SPEAKER_00: So coming off of his schema season, still really fit, has that speed.
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  SPEAKER_00: We know he's one of the best climbers in the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's usually the flats and the downs, but really awesome job.
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  SPEAKER_00: First man out was Andy Wacker.
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  SPEAKER_00: Bummer to see that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then Dan Kurtz was in sixth place.
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  SPEAKER_00: So not his best race.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure he's really disappointed with that as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: On the women's side,
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  SPEAKER_00: we saw Anna Gibson,
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  SPEAKER_00: also a Brooks trainer,
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  SPEAKER_00: double back from Zagama a week before and just dominate.
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  SPEAKER_00: She won by over 30 seconds,
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to say,
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  SPEAKER_00: maybe almost a minute over Lauren Gregory,
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  SPEAKER_00: who second place,
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  SPEAKER_00: made a ton of these U.S.
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  SPEAKER_00: teams.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then third place, also made a ton of these U.S.
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  SPEAKER_00: teams, is Allie Mack.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then there wasn't a fourth place slot because of...
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  the uh auto qualification from grayson since she was a world
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  previous world
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  champion on the previous worlds so anna gibson uh lauren gregor
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  and ali mac i think
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  both these teams are really really awesome and i think we're
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  sending some really
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  good representation and i think that easily we could have
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  people um podium on both
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  the men's and women's side in these races um yeah i think it'll
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  be tough one thing
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  SPEAKER_00: that i noticed though is that if there's a ton of
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  SPEAKER_00: Kenyans and Ugandans,
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  SPEAKER_00: I shouldn't laugh,
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  but like they can really clean up a race depending on how
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  technical it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's going to be a big factor.
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  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't seem like Uganda always sends a team,
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  SPEAKER_00: but if they do,
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  SPEAKER_00: they're going to be really good.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then Kenya always has at least like
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  a couple of people on the podium but with that being said i
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  think the men's and
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  women's teams look awesome for this year and i'm super excited
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  to see them race i'm
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  sure a lot of these people are going to double back uh they
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  didn't quite make it
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  for broken arrow so hopefully some of them that just missed out
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  also get to make
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  the broken arrow team for the short trail team in the 23k um or
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  no is it the 46k i
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  SPEAKER_00: don't remember which one i think it's the 23k so
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  SPEAKER_00: So that covers last week's race for Fantasy Free Trail.
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  SPEAKER_00: This week we have the Twisted Fork races.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm going to start off with the 30K.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think the 30K is a little bit more exciting.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have some really big names.
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  SPEAKER_00: The names have kind of changed a good bit.
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  SPEAKER_00: I initially had notes and was making notes.
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  And then when I refreshed and finished up my notes today,
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  this is Wednesday.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's Wednesday morning on the East Coast time.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's Wednesday in the afternoon for where I am.
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  um when i refreshed a lot of the names changed so that's kind
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  of a bummer because
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  there were some really good big names that i was excited to see
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  go head to head and
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  then a lot of those names kind of changed up but with that
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  being said i think the
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  30k is a little bit deeper so i want to talk about that race
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  first um and some of
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  the themes that i'm noticing with the twisted fork 30k it's a
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  western state taste
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  uh states tune-up for at least three of these athletes on the
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  men's and women's
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  side uh ton of the slc crew locals are running or people that
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  kind of base
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  SPEAKER_00: themselves out of slc and then um
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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  I think that's kind of the two big things I noticed with
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  regards to themes for this
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  SPEAKER_00: Twisted Fork 30K.
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  SPEAKER_00: So like we said, around 18 miles, a little bit of a faster tune-up.
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  Looking at the men's and women's side,
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  I'm going to start off on the men's side first.
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  SPEAKER_00: And for the men's side, for Twisted Fork 30K,
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  SPEAKER_00: Kind of the usual Salt Lake City suspects.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then another thing is that we've got a coach and athlete matchup,
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  SPEAKER_00: which would be really exciting.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they could be really closely matched.
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  And then some of the guys that are just really good in that
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  kind of 50K to 50 mile
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  SPEAKER_00: range is what I'm noticing.
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  So if we're looking down the list,
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  we got guys like Caleb Olson,
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  Jack Kunzel.
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  SPEAKER_00: Eric Corcoran,
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  SPEAKER_00: Darren Thomas,
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  SPEAKER_00: Matt Seidel,
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  SPEAKER_00: Gabe Klein,
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  SPEAKER_00: and Jacob Grant heading out the men's side.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's a solid list of guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: With that being said, some observations.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Caleb Olson, he is one of those three golden ticket winners.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: he's not a golden ticket winner,
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  SPEAKER_00: excuse me,
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  but he's rising Western States because he finished fifth
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  overall last year,
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  SPEAKER_00: fastest debut time ever.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he is really rosin-
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  SPEAKER_00: So he's a Nike trail athlete based out of Salt Lake City.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he has really,
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  really probably had this one of the steepest improvement curves
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  kind of in the past
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  SPEAKER_00: two years in the sport,
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  SPEAKER_00: especially this,
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  SPEAKER_00: this,
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  SPEAKER_00: this year,
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  SPEAKER_00: he seems to be on kind of a whole nother level.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he's been announced to the world's team this year.
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  SPEAKER_00: He ran and set a course record at Trans Gran Canaria earlier this year,
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  SPEAKER_00: beat John Albin,
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  SPEAKER_00: who was pretty much unbeatable in a lot of ways,
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  SPEAKER_00: although he did also beat him last year.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then other things about Caleb Olson,
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  SPEAKER_00: just had a child,
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  SPEAKER_00: so new dad,
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  SPEAKER_00: so that might be affecting some of his training.
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  He does a really good job of talking about stuff on Substack
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  and how that kind of changes.
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  SPEAKER_00: I really enjoyed following him on Substack,
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  and I think it's a really good look into how he approaches
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  things and decides how
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  SPEAKER_00: to race.
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  He even mentioned one of his Substack posts was kind of
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  deciding how to race,
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  SPEAKER_00: and he really wanted to make the Worlds team,
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  SPEAKER_00: but he didn't know if he could make it from his resume.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he was considering racing Gorge, but it seems like he's not.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's going to race Western and then race Worlds down the road.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's Caleb Olson.
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  He also just recently came off winning a 50K in Salt Lake City
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  that had some good
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  SPEAKER_00: competition with Adam Loomis and Ryan Montgomery.
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  Although I think Ryan Montgomery was just kind of doing his big
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  training stimulus.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I also think probably Caleb Olson is too.
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  He's not always totally Strava open,
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  so he doesn't share all of his training.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's tough to tell exactly how much he is doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh,
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  SPEAKER_00: for Caleb,
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  SPEAKER_00: this is a little bit short and speedy,
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  SPEAKER_00: uh,
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  SPEAKER_00: compared to what type of racing he usually does.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I mean,
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  SPEAKER_00: with that being said,
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  SPEAKER_00: he is plenty fast and plenty sharp,
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  SPEAKER_00: and he's only gotten sharper,
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  SPEAKER_00: uh,
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  SPEAKER_00: since he has,
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  SPEAKER_00: uh,
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  SPEAKER_00: picked up a coach,
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  SPEAKER_00: um,
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  SPEAKER_00: picked up a coach for this year.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we'll talk about that coach here in just a second.
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  But the other thing is too,
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  I don't know,
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  I doubt he'll taper too much for this race.
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  I don't think he's probably started tapering too much for
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  Western since we're still
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  SPEAKER_00: about two weeks out.
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  SPEAKER_00: So maybe he has just started to come down on mileage,
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  but I imagine he might still have a pretty big training block
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  and a big week in his
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  SPEAKER_00: legs.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it might not be the freshest coming into this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Going back to what I was touching on earlier,
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  SPEAKER_00: he is going to be racing against his coach and his coach is Jack Kunzel.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I think that's a pretty nice transition there.
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  uh he has been coached by jack kunzel at least for the past
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  four or five months i
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  want to say for most of this year he decided to get a coach and
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  he talked about it
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  in his Substack uh and really yeah i think it was a good choice
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  i think jack is a
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  really fascinating individual uh jack kunzel he's mostly known
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  for his fkt attempts
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  he kind of blew up and came onto the scene uh the ultra scenes
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  attention in 2023
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  SPEAKER_00: I believe it was 2023.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't quote me on that, though.
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  But he basically came across everyone's radar when he beat
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  Killian Jornet's record
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  SPEAKER_00: on the Bob Graham round.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for us Westerners, that's not really as well known.
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  SPEAKER_00: But in the UK, it's a huge deal.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Bob Graham round is this set of peaks.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's around 65, 67 miles, I want to say.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think it's about 26,000 feet of vert.
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  SPEAKER_00: And basically, it's a bunch of peaks in the Lake District that...
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't quote me on this,
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  even though I'm just now reading a book on fell running called
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  Touching the Sky.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's really, really good.
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  But essentially,
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  there used to be competition to top as many peaks as possible
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  in 24 hours.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if I'm not mistaken,
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  Braum Grand Round comes from his round that he did and topping
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  all these peaks.
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  SPEAKER_00: in that 24 hour period.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then since then, it's been kind of a tradition.
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  SPEAKER_00: And basically there was this kind of untouchable record by this guy,
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  SPEAKER_00: this guy by the name of Billy Bland,
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  SPEAKER_00: that I think was 13 hours and 53 minutes,
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  SPEAKER_00: if I'm not mistaken,
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  SPEAKER_00: that was set in like the 80s.
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  And people had tried and tried and tried and no one thought it
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  was really touchable.
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  SPEAKER_00: Killian, of course, goes and breaks it.
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  SPEAKER_00: He breaks it by almost an hour.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think he goes about 1250 something.
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  And then when Killian does something naturally,
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  anyone's kind of hesitant to try to copy it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But Jack Kunzel is like an FKT savant.
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  SPEAKER_00: He basically goes and scouts out these FKTs.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to slow down back up.
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  fkt for anyone that doesn't know it's a fastest known time it's
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  essentially a speed
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  record on a route um but we call it the fastest known time
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  because obviously we've
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  only had like recorded running data and then especially gpx
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  files for actually
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  proving it for so long so some of these fkt's they were just
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  kind of word of mouth
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  like we knew billy bland's was 1353 and people had witnessed
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  him do it um but since
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  SPEAKER_00: then it's been like gps files to upload the proof
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  And so anyways,
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  Jack Kunzel is like this FKT guy who really wasn't doing much
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  organized racing.
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  SPEAKER_00: He kind of did some organized racing and then got out of the Navy.
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  He was an officer in the Special Forces for the SEALs,
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  if I'm not mistaken.
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  SPEAKER_00: Really smart guy.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think he also went to Yale.
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  SPEAKER_00: But he's also very eccentric and very outspoken.
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  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't take sponsorship money, and he's very outspoken about that.
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  And he's kind of like this trail running idealist in some ways
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  and really a purist
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  SPEAKER_00: in a lot of ways as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it doesn't take sponsorships.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did this FKT, that kind of blew him up.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then he's also got FKTs on like Mount Shasta and Denali.
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  SPEAKER_00: He'll ski up or run up, ski down.
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  SPEAKER_00: That type of deal kind of makes sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: Took one on Denali.
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  SPEAKER_00: He went after Mont Blanc last year, but it kind of had...
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  uh dog crap conditions i think he's still got the ski round
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  trip but then that's
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  been broken this year it seems like they had really good
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  conditions this year in
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  the fkt for mont blanc because it got broken uh by uh benjamin
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  the dream or vidrine
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  a french guy a really good north face athlete uh who does these
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  crazy ascents in
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  the himalayan and then and then flies off peaks and then it
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  just got broken a week
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  SPEAKER_00: later by william boffelli
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  um a sky runner who took it down another 10 minutes so jack
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  kunzel was right around
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  seven hours maybe just a little bit shy of it benjamin the
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  dreams took like five
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  minutes off that and then and even went below killian's
• 12:22
  existing time for running
• 12:23
  and then one of them both fell like blown both out of water and
• 12:25
  went like 6 43.
• 12:27
  So anyways,
• 12:28
  this is a really long digression,
• 12:29
  but Jack Kunzel is a really interesting athlete.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really big fan of his.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: And anytime he gets interviewed, I listened to it.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: He actually just released an interview and from the back country,
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_00: which is Will Peterson's podcast.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: He's another FGT guy and he started coaching him as well.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: So that'd be interesting to see.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um,
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: So that's, uh, Jack Kunzel.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh,
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: he actually did start racing a little bit last year,
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: which was atypical for him and had a really good showing.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: So he did Giro de Mont, which is a fast Italian race.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um,
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: that's around marathon distance,
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  SPEAKER_00: if I'm not mistaken,
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  SPEAKER_00: usually takes like three-ish hours,
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  SPEAKER_00: finished fifth with some really good sky runners,
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  SPEAKER_00: uh,
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  SPEAKER_00: behind like,
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  SPEAKER_00: um,
• 13:05
  Lorenzo,
• 13:06
  no,
• 13:06
  not Lorenzo,
• 13:07
  Luca D'Opero,
• 13:08
  and then another Kenyan guy like Michael Salelo Saoli.
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  SPEAKER_00: So fifth in that race.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: And then more impressively,
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: he got second in Trofeo Kima last year,
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  SPEAKER_00: which is a really epic mountain race.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: It only happens every two years in Italy.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_00: But not only did he get second,
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: he also won under Killian's course record time,
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_00: but he was beat by Finlay Wild,
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  his buddy who he goes back and forth with on some of the FKTs
• 13:28
  in UK as well.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: So...
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's enough spewing for me.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: I think if you if you couldn't tell by now,
• 13:35
  like I'm a pretty big Jack Kunzel fan and I think he's a very
• 13:37
  interesting person.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: He's very interesting to listen to talk.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: He's also been on Finn's single track podcast and he is coming off.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: He hasn't raced anything this year.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: He has done a good bit of training.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: He was going after Denali FKT,
• 13:49
  I think just breaking his own or setting a little faster
• 13:52
  because it's really close
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: to Killian's round trip time or he went for it last year.
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  um and he had to bail unfortunately because his partner uh i
• 14:00
  think tore her mcl or
• 14:01
  acl uh in the mountains so he just came back to salt lake so
• 14:04
  i'll be curious i'm
• 14:05
  sure he has a really big base i'm sure he's really altitude
• 14:07
  acclimated but i'm not
• 14:08
  sure how like short sharp and fast he is on this although i
• 14:11
  mean the dude trains
• 14:11
  like a beast uh he puts his public out or his training out to
• 14:15
  the public for free
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: or like has a file on it and he's very open and
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: He just has a very interesting training mind.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: So that's always cool to see.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_00: I think if you can find any podcast with him, he is a very unique lesson.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: He's eccentric.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_00: He's different.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_00: He's super outspoken.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I can rub some people the wrong way,
• 14:31
  but I admire just like his ability to speak his mind and be
• 14:34
  very opinionated in
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: some ways.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: So next one on the list anyways is Garrett Corcoran.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: He is a sub ultra guy mostly who's done, who does some ultras.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: He's racing on the golden trail circuit and had some good results.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if he ever had a sponsorship.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know that he has, but he ran collegiately.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: He was a fast dude.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: He, I think has a sub four minute.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_00: He does have a sub four minute mile.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think he ran at Cal Berkeley.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um,
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: he had a pretty good interview on the steep stuff podcast with,
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: uh,
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: James Loriello,
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: where he talked about his background,
• 15:02
  but a really good track and field runner kind of came over the
• 15:05
  trail side.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and he had some good results last year.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: He did make the U S trail short trail team in Innsbruck in 2023.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: And he was the top finisher.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: I want to say it was like 14th place, uh, in that race.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: And then he, uh,
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely has the speed to win this race.
• 15:20
  And I would consider him as one of the favorites up there with
• 15:22
  Jack and Caleb.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: He did just run a 2.14.44 marathon in April.
• 15:28
  And for those of you wondering,
• 15:29
  at least on my US audience,
• 15:30
  that's a 5.08 minute per mile pace.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: For anyone that's listening to this in Europe,
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry,
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if that is in kilometers per hour,
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: but I think it's around like sub three,
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty sure,
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: minutes per kilometer.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: And so he just did that at Napa this spring.
• 15:43
  He hasn't raced any trail races so far as I can tell since
• 15:46
  Golden Trail last year.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: He did the final,
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: he got 18th place,
• 15:48
  but he also did have a top 10 in the Golden Trail series at the
• 15:51
  seventh at Mammoth.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: And then I think he was just outside the top 10 at Headlands.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: So he's SLC local.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's lived there for a couple of years now.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: He's probably previewing the course.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: I follow him on Strava.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: He's really funny.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: I follow him on Strava.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that he is pretty much a lock for the
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: top five and has a possibility to win this race.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: Next one to talk about is Darren Thomas.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: We've talked about him on this podcast, former Solomon athlete.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, he's been the ultra scene for a long time.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: He's coming off of, he's got all distances like long and short.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I liked that he races a lot and kind of just puts his nose in it.
• 16:23
  He just got to,
• 16:24
  uh,
• 16:24
  just finished just outside of the top 10 at black Canyon.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: I want to say like 12, 13, 14, somewhere in there.
• 16:30
  And then he was second at big all to 20 AK to Andy Wacker's
• 16:32
  ridiculously fast time.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: And then he came out and raced canyons,
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: but kind of blew up and that put him outside of the top 10.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: So definitely another strong contender up there.
• 16:43
  Next one on the list,
• 16:43
  Matt Seidel,
• 16:45
  Norda athlete from Cali,
• 16:46
  I think he is.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: He runs kind of a crazy guy, runs marathons and banana costumes.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I think he had the world record for marathon and banana costume,
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: but I think it has since been broken.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: Don't quote me on that.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: He went out for the U.S.
• 16:58
  long trail team in the Gorge Waterfalls 100K this year,
• 17:01
  and he just missed it by a couple spots.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: He got sixth place, so didn't quite make it.
• 17:04
  Also ran Chuckanut earlier this year in that atrocious weather
• 17:07
  that a lot of people
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: got hypothermia.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: Chuckanut's a 50K.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: And he got seventh place.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: And then last year,
• 17:12
  he had an epic day at JFK and finished third overall in the
• 17:15
  eighth fastest time on
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: the course ever.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: So definitely a speedy dude.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely has some good race results.
• 17:21
  and then other than that i'm trying to think if he uh he didn't
• 17:26
  have a dean i don't
• 17:26
  think any dnfs this year so i said i was definitely a really
• 17:29
  strong contender for
• 17:30
  the top five as well uh next one on the list uh gabe klein um
• 17:34
  has had some really
• 17:35
  good results in the past he is coached by corinne malcolm if
• 17:38
  i'm not mistaken
• 17:39
  Hasn't done this much recently,
• 17:41
  but he was eighth in Black Canyon 100K last year.
• 17:44
  It's always one of the most competitive,
• 17:45
  and that's a really good finishing.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: He ran nine trails,
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: 35 miles to fifth place earlier this year,
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: and then he had DNFs at Terra Aura 100K and Canyon's 100K last year.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: This is a shorter race,
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: so I don't necessarily expect him to DNF,
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: but I could see him in the back half of the top 10.
• 18:01
  For the next person on the list,
• 18:06
  Jacob Grant,
• 18:07
  Salt Lake City Boy,
• 18:07
  19th at Broken Arrow.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: 46K last year, ninth at it in 2023.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: I came across his YouTube channel earlier this year,
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: Wannabe Pro,
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: and reminds me of one of my...
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: a present,
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: recording some of her class.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: Is that okay?
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'll be down in, like, 20 minutes.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: So, sorry about that.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: I am using a room,
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: and so rather than jets taking off,
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: there's people that are trying to use it,
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: too.
• 18:40
  Anyways,
• 18:40
  so Jacob Grant came across his YouTube page earlier this year,
• 18:44
  Wannabe Pro.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: And it is a really good YouTube channel.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: It reminds me a lot of one of my favorites, Mediocre Amateur.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: So Jacob Grant goes on these adventures.
• 18:56
  And yeah,
• 18:56
  basically kind of takes you with him on the adventures,
• 18:58
  does different link-ups.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: So he's had stuff like Gannett Peak, which is the high point in Wyoming.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: Glacier Peak in Wyoming,
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: or excuse me,
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: Washington,
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: Ptarmigan Traverse,
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: The Whirl,
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Lost River Range in Idaho,
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Quandary Peak,
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: Tijuana.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah,
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: and I mean,
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: if you look at his straw,
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: it actually says want to be pro over mediocre amateur.
• 19:15
  So I think he very much based the channel kind of on mediocre
• 19:18
  amateur and is
• 19:20
  probably a little bit more even more fit than those guys um so
• 19:23
  fan of his of his
• 19:24
  youtube channel i think he's putting out good stuff i think
• 19:26
  he's definitely going
• 19:27
  to be in the back half of this top 10 um somewhere in that five
• 19:30
  through eight range
• 19:31
  last person i want to mention on the men's side is aubrey my
• 19:33
  myger m-y-j-e-r i
• 19:35
  never have heard how to say his last name but he's another salt
• 19:37
  lake city boy that
• 19:38
  moved there in the past couple years he did run collegiately at
• 19:41
  nc state in
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: columbia
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: based off his Strava profile.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I looked up some of his results.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: He had an 848 personal best in the steeple, which is super duper fast.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: And his mile PB was in the low fours minutes from what I could tell.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: He did run Scout Mountain 50K and got fourth place last year.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: Second at Mammoth 26K and 22.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: He hasn't raced as much recently because I think he had a kid,
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: but he's definitely somebody who will be threatening for the top.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: On the women's side, also got a pretty deep field.
• 20:09
  Names like Lindsay Allison,
• 20:10
  Jasmine Louther,
• 20:11
  Jane Mouse,
• 20:11
  Heather Jackson,
• 20:12
  and Emily Spahn-Avis.
• 20:15
  With that being said,
• 20:16
  we also have two more Western States runners this year.
• 20:20
  It's going to be Nancy Jiang and Heather Jackson are going to
• 20:23
  be lining up.
• 20:25
  On the women's side,
• 20:26
  it honestly feels deeper than the men's race in some ways,
• 20:30
  honestly.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's about the same depth, if not a little bit deeper.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: So some of the favorites, Jasmine Louther is coming off a DNF.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: She did not finish Black Canyon at 100K.
• 20:40
  I think she just came out too hard and then ended up bailing
• 20:43
  when she realized it
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: wasn't her day from what I can gather from her Instagram post.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: And then she also raced Chuckana,
• 20:49
  but I think she had a really nasty ankle roll and had to DNF
• 20:51
  there because of the
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: weather.
• 20:53
  So she's definitely looking for a good race after two DNFs and
• 20:56
  has been in SLC
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: doing some running,
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: I think,
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: with her partner Michelino Sanceri,
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: probably outscouting the course.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: Heather Jackson, on the other hand, is so she's a hooker runner.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: She's a badass four time top five world Ironman champions.
• 21:14
  And so she's a career triathlete came into the ultra running
• 21:17
  scene about three years ago.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: And
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: really comes out and races super aggressively.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: And she's really kind of embraced the trail running,
• 21:23
  but she's found this cool niche where she solos these ultra
• 21:27
  gravel events.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like she raced in some of the Grand Prix,
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: last time Grand Prix,
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: uh,
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: gravel racing series last year,
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: um,
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: while also putting up some really amazing results in the ultra world.
• 21:35
  So it's cool how she can kind of float between ultra distance
• 21:38
  running and ultra
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: distance,
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: uh,
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: biking as well.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: She's actually coming off of, she just raced unbound, uh,
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: Usually the 200 is the most competitive,
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: but she did the XL,
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: which is a 360-mile bike race,
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: and she won it in 20 hours and set the female course record.
• 21:53
  And she just did that like a week ago,
• 21:54
  so like two weeks before this race,
• 21:56
  if I'm not mistaken.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: So she's probably still a little bit tired from that.
• 21:59
  It seems like she hasn't been doing a ton of running value per
• 22:01
  her Strava,
• 22:02
  but I think she kind of took this approach last year because
• 22:05
  she did race unbound
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: last year.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: And then she basically has a ton of volume in her legs,
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: and she just has to get some more running-specific stuff,
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: but she doesn't always do high-miles running.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: So far this year, she has done a little bit of racing.
• 22:14
  She raced Kanin's 50K and got fourth behind Hannah Allgood,
• 22:18
  Tabor Hemming,
• 22:18
  and Kimmy Schreiber.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: She raced Blackhaney 100K and came out really hard and faded once again.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's her second or third year in a row of doing that.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: I expect to see her going out front and pushing the pace early,
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: and it's just kind of a matter of how her legs are going to hang.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: She's been picking up her running volume, like I mentioned earlier.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: I just followed her on Strava.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I'll be curious to see.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: I think she'll be ramping up her running for this week and next week.
• 22:42
  So I wouldn't be surprised if she just kind of puts this as a
• 22:44
  training stimulus and
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: what's a big week of running for her.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I think she's a strong pick for the top five.
• 22:49
  I just don't know that she'll be the freshest or if she'll just
• 22:51
  kind of use this as
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: a training stimulus would be my guess.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: So next on the list is Emily's Von Avis.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: She's a,
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: per her UTMB profile,
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: it says she's a mountain runner and schema athlete based in Bozeman,
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: Montana.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: She's got some really good results and kind of is always kind of
• 23:06
  hiding behind the scenes but a really good athlete so she got
• 23:09
  10th at black and
• 23:10
  100k last year and then uh you know 10th at ccc last year and
• 23:14
  then won the
• 23:15
  laborator 80k she got 8th at ccc the year before that and she
• 23:18
  also has a fit that
• 23:19
  broken arrow 46k in 2023 um so she real good with these
• 23:23
  mountainous races she
• 23:24
  probably has aerobic endless aerobic capacity i didn't see any
• 23:27
  results yet this
• 23:28
  year so i imagine she's just finishing up her ski season
• 23:30
  especially coming from
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: bozeman you can ski there pretty long
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I expect to see her in the top five as well.
• 23:35
  I think she's kind of like a sneaky,
• 23:37
  really good athlete that people often forget about.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: Next one on the list is Nancy Jang.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: She's a Kiwi runner for La Sportiva.
• 23:45
  And she will be racing Western States here in a few weeks
• 23:48
  because she won a golden
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: ticket at TerraWare this year,
• 23:51
  which she got fifth place in the ticket roll down to her since
• 23:53
  Ruth Cross passed on
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: it.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure about her speed over stuff to short,
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: but because she mostly races longer stuff,
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: but I think she's a lot for somewhere in the top five.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think she's also similar to
• 24:03
  to heather jackson she'll be using this as more of a tune-up um
• 24:06
  i don't know that
• 24:06
  her and heather will be the sharpest i can imagine they'll
• 24:08
  still be kind of peaking
• 24:09
  and uh just using this as a nice long run with a good stimulus
• 24:12
  so a couple couple
• 24:15
  female names left jane moss uh also a lot sportiva athlete from
• 24:18
  salt lake city so
• 24:19
  far she's had a dnf at black canyon 100k this year and then a
• 24:21
  second at lake sonoma
• 24:23
  52 tara dower i think she's a lock for the top five these are
• 24:26
  her home trails she's
• 24:27
  fast and likes to race this kind of stuff and she also yeah she
• 24:31
  has that kind of a
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: home field advantage
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: So she's probably already scattered all the course.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next one on the list,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think she is a strong potential for winning,
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  SPEAKER_00: if not my favorite,
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: to win,
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  SPEAKER_00: even though her name's a little bit further down.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's going to be Lindsay Allison, recent Ultra signee.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: So she signed to Ultra Shoe Company earlier this year.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she's really,
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  really good in these events around 50k and has had a good year
• 24:52
  so far with a second
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  at Big Alta 50k and then a win at just Tabor Hemming and then a
• 24:57
  win at Lake Sonoma
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  SPEAKER_00: Marathon.
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  I expect her to be in the top three for sure and I wouldn't be
• 25:00
  surprised if she wins this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Training at Elevation, I'm living in Telluride.
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  So SLC is low elevation so far as she's concerned and shouldn't
• 25:08
  be too hard to run in.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: Two more names left.
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  SPEAKER_00: Alina Horton won the Canons 100 miler last year,
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  SPEAKER_00: which is a tough race and people get lost on it in the spring.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: And then she also won the Black Canyon 60k last year,
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: which wasn't as competitive as the 50k this year.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: But still, she's obviously got some good leg speed.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: Haven't seen any races more recent than that,
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: but she could be kind of a sleeper for the back half of the top five.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: And then another name worth mentioning is Andrea Stofko,
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  SPEAKER_00: 10th at Desert Ruts 50K and 13th at Terrawera 50K this year.
• 25:35
  Third at Lake Sonoma 50 last year,
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  just behind Lindsay Allison and Anna Fisher.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I could see her also kind of in the back half of that top five.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: With regards to picks for the top three...
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: With regards to picks for the top three,
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: excuse me,
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: for the top five on each side,
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: the men's and the women's.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: On the women's side, I'm going to go fifth through first.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to go fifth place, Emily's Von Avis.
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  SPEAKER_00: Fourth place, Heather Jackson.
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  SPEAKER_00: Third place, Jane Moss.
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  SPEAKER_00: Second place, Jasmine Louther.
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  SPEAKER_00: And first place, Lindsay Allison.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: I think Heather will take it out hot,
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  but she will either fade or will back off because she'll still
• 26:15
  have a lot of...
• 26:17
  a lot of miles in her legs,
• 26:18
  at least for running more than she's used to.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: I think Lindsay is sharp and has a possibility to win this.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: I also think Jasmine does as well.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: Jane Moss, I'm kind of picking her as a Salt Lake City favorite.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: I could see Heather finishing higher, but I'm just kind of hesitant.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I think she's going to use this as a training stimulus.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: Emily Swan Avis, same thing.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_00: I could see her finishing higher as well.
• 26:35
  For the females that are just outside of the top five,
• 26:38
  I definitely think Nancy Jing's up there.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: And then Elena Horton will be some up there as well.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: On the men's side,
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  I'm going to switch around my top three at least a couple times
• 26:47
  in the next few days.
• 26:48
  But I don't have anything too exciting because a lot of these
• 26:50
  are some of the top guys.
• 26:52
  It's actually almost all the top guys from the,
• 26:56
  with regards to their order.
• 26:58
  Yeah,
• 26:59
  it actually is pretty much the top guys with regards to the
• 27:02
  order of UTMB index.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: So on the men's side,
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  SPEAKER_00: I got fifth place,
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: Darren Thomas,
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  SPEAKER_00: fourth place,
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  SPEAKER_00: Matt Seidel,
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  SPEAKER_00: third place,
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: Garrett Corcoran,
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  SPEAKER_00: second place,
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  SPEAKER_00: Caleb Olson,
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  SPEAKER_00: and first place,
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: Jack Kunzel.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: Although honestly,
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: at the top three,
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_00: I could swap any which way,
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: and I'm only hesitant to pick Caleb so high.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think it'd be pretty sweet if he beat his own coach.
• 27:22
  And I'm also questioning how sharp his own coach is with
• 27:25
  regards to short speed
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_00: stuff,
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: since he was kind of getting ready to go do a Denali FKT,
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: which is like a 12-hour effort.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: So I could see any of those guys mixing it up.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: I could see Garrett winning.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: He's probably the fastest and most talented of them all.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: But his Strava says he hasn't been feeling great lately.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: Jack Kunzel doesn't really make his Strava public,
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: even though he releases workouts that he does.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't really know where he's at.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: Caleb also is kind of the same.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: He only releases a little bit.
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  And then Matt Seidel,
• 27:48
  I just think,
• 27:49
  will be in that top five inevitably somewhere.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_00: And same thing with Darren Thomas.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: And then I could easily see Jacob Grant or even...
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: Liam Hammond's kind of up there.
• 27:56
  Same thing with Gabe Klein,
• 27:57
  but I think these guys are probably the fittest.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: The five that I picked doesn't mean they'll get top five,
• 28:01
  but I think they're strong picks and they will almost
• 28:03
  definitely get points.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: So that's the men's and women's side.
• 28:06
  On the 68K,
• 28:07
  I don't have as much to say,
• 28:08
  but I'm still going to preview the athletes.
• 28:10
  We had guys like Matt Daniels and other people,
• 28:12
  but they appeared to pull out.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to start off with the men's side on the 68K.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: So 68K around 40 miles, a little bit of a longer race.
• 28:21
  And like I said,
• 28:22
  we had Matt Daniels and it had a bunch of other names in there.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like it had like Anthony Costolas and a handful of others,
• 28:27
  but I don't know if they just decided not to race or if it was
• 28:30
  kind of putting them
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_00: on there a little bit too quickly.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: So Matt Daniels, unfortunately, is a scratch.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_00: So looking at the rest of these names on the men's side,
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_00: we got Gavin Pryor,
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: Adam Loomis,
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: Grant Barnett,
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  SPEAKER_00: Noah Dussault,
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: Brett Horne,
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: Zach Kierke.
• 28:41
  power jesse rich uh and alex proctor and jose cruz so on the
• 28:47
  men's side um gavin
• 28:48
  prior kind of a sleeper not a name that a lot of people know
• 28:51
  but he's had a really
• 28:52
  good year this far um he just missed a golden ticket at cannons
• 28:56
  by six no excuse me
• 28:57
  three and a half minutes behind ryan montgomery for a sixth
• 28:59
  place finish so
• 29:01
  literally just missed a golden ticket and then just before that
• 29:03
  he was seventh in
• 29:04
  black canyon 100k um so only a couple spots off there so this
• 29:08
  dude is definitely
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: fit he's a young gun i think he's 26 years
• 29:11
  old so young dude and ultra speedy probably coming off a
• 29:14
  college career i'm not
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: positive about that um but he's been very consistent and last year he won
• 29:20
  grandstone 100 miler so he's done well i mean he just mentioned
• 29:23
  200 k's he did
• 29:24
  really long um and then i think if i looked at his results to
• 29:27
  tunnel hill he did a
• 29:28
  couple really fast 50 milers so he's also got that like speed
• 29:31
  uh i think he's
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: probably
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: My sleeper pick for the win, if not my pick for the win.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm excited to see him race.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to learn more about him.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: So if anyone knows anything about him, please let me know.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: Adam Loomis is going to be the next guy we're going to talk about.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_00: He's a Dina Fit athlete from SLC.
• 29:46
  He regularly completes in these mountainous type of races
• 29:49
  around SLC and elsewhere.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: I first learned about him when I raced Speedo in 2022,
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_00: and he finished in the top 10 in eighth place.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: He just got second at an SLC 50K to Caleb Olson.
• 29:59
  And then he raced Gorge 50K earlier this year and got third
• 30:02
  just behind Liam
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_00: Hammonds and Josh Potvin.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_00: He won the Gorge 100K last year in 2024 and was second at Run Rabbit Run,
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_00: which is a competitive 100 miler in Steamboat Springs.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: And it has the biggest prize purse for 100 milers in the States.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: So he won, I think, 10K off that.
• 30:17
  Adam Loomis has no problem with altitude or lots of climbing
• 30:19
  because he's a schemo guy.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_00: But I just don't know how sharp he is at quick efforts like this.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: And especially compared to somebody like Gavin Pryor,
• 30:29
  who I assume is a little bit sharper and more recently out of
• 30:32
  running collegiately
• 30:33
  and has kind of a little bit of that turnover because I don't
• 30:36
  think it's going to
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_00: be a super technical race.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_00: Next one to look out for is Grant Barnett.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: He's another SLC athlete.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_00: He was a former Dean of Fit athlete,
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_00: but now he is with Kraft and with the Kraft Trail team,
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_00: so he's been running with them.
• 30:47
  He's typically a pretty good mountainous 50K guy,
• 30:49
  and he's had good results at Spigo.
• 30:51
  Last year,
• 30:51
  he got fifth place,
• 30:52
  and Broken Arrow in 2023,
• 30:53
  he also got fifth place.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_00: But he is coming off a little bit of string of DNFs in races.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: He had a DNF at Canyons 100K earlier this year for a golden ticket.
• 31:02
  And then UTMB last year where he had stomach issues,
• 31:06
  if I'm not mistaken.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_00: So another guy who should be up there.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: Next on the list, Noah Dusso.
• 31:12
  First came across everyone's radar in Black Canyon 2023 when
• 31:15
  everyone was like,
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: who is this dude in the cow shorts that is crushing it?
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's where a lot of people became aware of Cowgill,
• 31:22
  the running group out of Seattle that's now spread to Boise and
• 31:25
  other places,
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: I think Portland as well.
• 31:27
  um so yeah he got a top five he got fifth place and black
• 31:29
  cannon just missed a
• 31:30
  golden ticket um since then he's won right white river 50 miler
• 31:33
  last year and he
• 31:34
  also raced run rabbit run to a 12th place which i imagine was
• 31:36
  disappointing for him
• 31:38
  he has 150k this year at the high nerd 50k mpa which he won
• 31:41
  pretty stoutly and set
• 31:42
  a course record so he seems like he's pretty fit and probably
• 31:44
  coming into this race
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_00: and gonna have a good race um
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_00: A couple of our names on the list,
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_00: Jesse Rich,
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_00: SLC guy who doesn't race a ton but has a lot of good results.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_00: Only one ultra last year was a win in the Salt Lake Footlakes 50K.
• 31:57
  At a time that was a little bit faster than the one that Caleb
• 32:00
  Olsen just ran earlier this year.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_00: And then year before that, he was third at the Bear 100.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: And in 2021, he was seventh at Run Rabbit Run.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: I could see Jesse Rich in the back half of his top 10.
• 32:09
  um brett hornig is also racing he is a very well-known uh media
• 32:14
  guy in the trail
• 32:16
  running world he hosts uh conversational pace which is a shoe
• 32:19
  review youtube and
• 32:20
  then he's a frequent uh co-host on finn lanson's podcast he
• 32:23
  does the long run
• 32:24
  archives um with finn and is often on the podcast um doing
• 32:28
  predictions as well he
• 32:29
  has two tenth place finishes at big also 50k and black cannon
• 32:32
  50k as well this year
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_00: so i imagine uh
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: He's looking for something a little bit better than a 10th.
• 32:38
  I think he'll be in the back half of those top 10,
• 32:40
  hopefully a little bit higher than 10.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: But I could see him in like the five through eight.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe he'll even go 10th and make it three 10s in a row.
• 32:47
  So another one to look out for and another guy who's kind of
• 32:51
  becoming more
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_00: prominent is Zach Power.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_00: He's the co-founder of Open Fuel, a Denver guy.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: And this Open Fuel company has been sponsoring some athletes recently.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: I think it just did Dan Kurtz and a handful of others.
• 33:03
  He got 12th at Choconut 50K this year in sloppy weather and
• 33:06
  then second at Desert
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_00: Rats 100K last year,
• 33:08
  which is when I first came across him at the award ceremony
• 33:10
  because I raced Desert
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: Rats last year at the 50K though.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: And he also got 12th at Big Alta 50K last year.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: Two more names to go over.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_00: One of which I think will be in the top five.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: One of them is Alex Proctor.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: He's the SLC young gun at 24 years old.
• 33:22
  He just beat Fannin at the Antelope Island 50 miler and he
• 33:25
  broke Devo's course
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: record from like 10 years ago.
• 33:27
  He got 22nd at Black Andy 100k this year and third at
• 33:30
  Grindstone 100 miler last year.
• 33:31
  So I think he's somebody to look out for and I think he will be
• 33:34
  somewhere.
• 33:35
  uh i think he's gonna try to go out maybe with some of these
• 33:37
  big guys which might
• 33:38
  be a little bit bold um but i could see i see him in the top
• 33:42
  five and the last one
• 33:43
  to look out for jose cruz he's a dude from slc in his late 40s
• 33:47
  he's a hundred mile
• 33:48
  crusher who uh just is yeah really good he first came across my
• 33:52
  radar in 2023 at
• 33:54
  hard rock when he was consistently in the top 10 before
• 33:56
  finishing 11th ultimately
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_00: um
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: He's won the Bear 100 miler.
• 34:01
  Last year he won it and was in second in the Wasatch 100
• 34:03
  despite running it 20
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: minutes faster only because he lost to Jimmy Elam.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_00: So he's a guy that knows these Salt Lake trails really well.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: He does really good in 100 milers.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_00: The longer it is, the better he is.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's a lock for somewhere in the back half of that top 10.
• 34:13
  I just don't know if he has the speed to be up there with some
• 34:15
  of these guys.
• 34:18
  For the men's side,
• 34:19
  with regards to my picks,
• 34:20
  I would go fifth place Alex Proctor.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_00: Fourth place, Grant Barnett.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_00: Third place, Noah Dusseau.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: Second place, Adam Loomis.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: And first place, Gavin Pryor.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: I think those two guys will be up front.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_00: I could see Noah also being up there.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_00: I just don't know.
• 34:33
  His Heiner time was really good,
• 34:34
  but we haven't seen him in more competitive races so far.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_00: But I could see Noah up there potentially winning it as well.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's a bummer.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_00: Matt Daniels won't be racing.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_00: I was hoping to see him.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: With regards to the female side, I had to research.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_00: I only know a handful of these names.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: But with that being said,
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: so Sarah Cummings,
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: somebody with the highest rating per,
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: what are they looking at?
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_00: UTMB index, I guess, right now.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_00: I was really surprised.
• 34:58
  This is somebody who I haven't seen race since I've kind of
• 34:59
  gotten into trail
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: running,
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: but somebody who's had really good results in the past.
• 35:03
  she's a trail runner for books i looked up her instagram she
• 35:06
  hasn't raced a lot in
• 35:06
  the past few years because she just recently had a child um but
• 35:09
  she's a trail
• 35:09
  runner for brooks she has quite the impressive resume and she
• 35:12
  won jfk in 2021 and
• 35:14
  then was second in the year before ran a ton of 50ks in 2021
• 35:17
  and won most of them
• 35:18
  it seems like she was a speedy road person like a otq
• 35:20
  marathoner who kind of
• 35:21
  switched over the trail side so curious to see she could be
• 35:24
  dark horse coming back
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_00: from having a kid and could out go out there and crush it and win it
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: Nicole Hansen is another athlete we'll talk about.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_00: So Aravipa, team athlete out of Flagstaff, Arizona.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_00: She just won the Ram Party 50K in Colorado Springs on May 17th.
• 35:39
  And most of her results are from Aravipa racers,
• 35:41
  which are not always the most competitive.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: But she races a lot of sub-ultra and does well.
• 35:46
  And then her last race this long was McDowell 50 miler in 2023,
• 35:49
  another Aravipa.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_00: And she won that.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_00: So that's a pretty good sign.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: But she seems to mostly do like 40K and below for a lot of stuff.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: But I could see her being up there.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: Next team on the list is Kareth Arnold.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_00: She is a runner for Ultra, the footwear company, and she's a mom of two.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: She's always racing in these golden ticket races,
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: and she's a really consistent racer who doesn't DNF and really finishes,
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: honestly,
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: really consistently.
• 36:13
  She never really wins the big stuff,
• 36:15
  but she's always up there in the mix.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: She won a golden ticket last year.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_00: She's a sister-in-law to Lottie Brinks,
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_00: and they finished Western States right next to each other.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_00: She's coming off a very strong fifth-place finish at Canaan's 100K,
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: where she just missed a golden ticket.
• 36:28
  uh by six minutes and then she won the bear 100 last year and
• 36:31
  broke uh the course
• 36:32
  record there that was held by casey like tag um by two minutes
• 36:36
  uh and tons of good
• 36:37
  females have raced that uh like anna frost and i don't know lia
• 36:40
  yingling and a ton
• 36:41
  of others um i'd say kareth is a lock to the top three and
• 36:44
  really consistent racer
• 36:45
  who doesn't miss i could even potentially see her winning this
• 36:48
  um right now she's
• 36:50
  my pick to win it but i'm uh yeah i don't know i think there's
• 36:53
  there's no clear
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: favorite in the women's side if i had to pick kind of one theme
• 36:57
  Lauren Puritz is an OBGYN doctor who races Auto Collider
• 37:01
  Springs and also races a
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_00: lot of Aravipa events.
• 37:04
  She got a golden ticket last year as well,
• 37:06
  was the third place finish at her Black Canyon 100K.
• 37:09
  And she raced Black Canyon this year and got eighth place even
• 37:12
  though she was
• 37:12
  within two minutes of her time for last year because the race
• 37:14
  just got that much
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  SPEAKER_00: faster this year.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, she has raced a bunch of air vibe races this year.
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  SPEAKER_00: She won that ramp party 60 K and North for 50 miler.
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  The only,
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  uh,
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  hesitation I have with her is that she,
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  uh,
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  did just race a 50 miler the May 31st.
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  SPEAKER_00: So only like two or three weeks before this.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's a little bit close.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so it might still have some fatigue in her legs.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tough to say.
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  SPEAKER_00: Other athletes to look out for are going to be Catherine Short,
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  SPEAKER_00: a Canadian who hasn't really raced since 2023.
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  On her Instagram,
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  it showed her racing a trail marathon in British Columbia last
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  year.
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  SPEAKER_00: But in 2023, she has some good results.
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  SPEAKER_00: So she got fifth at Bandera 100K and one way too cool 50K.
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  SPEAKER_00: A year before that, she won Cannons 50K.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not sure what to expect and could be a wild card.
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  Don't know what kind of fitness she's coming in with,
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  but she is a swap athlete.
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  SPEAKER_00: And presumably, if she's racing, she's healthy.
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  SPEAKER_00: A couple other names to look out for, Elizabeth Legoy.
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  Only result I saw from her was fourth place at Desert Rats Half
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  Marathon last year,
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  SPEAKER_00: but she was only two minutes behind Tabor Hemming,
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  SPEAKER_00: so that could be somebody to look out for.
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  SPEAKER_00: Amy Sturgill is another one.
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  SPEAKER_00: We talked about her earlier in the big Alta 28K preview.
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  SPEAKER_00: She ended up getting eighth place since then.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's had a seventh place at Gorge 50K and a win at High Sierra's 55K.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then in 2023, she was second at Kodiak 100K.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think she's really good the longer these races get,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I think she's a really good pick for points.
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  SPEAKER_00: She'll be somewhere in the top 10.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty confident in that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Last one to look out for,
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  SPEAKER_00: Selena Langner,
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  SPEAKER_00: was second at Lake Sonoma Marathon behind Lindsay Allison this year,
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  SPEAKER_00: 14th at Chuckanut last year,
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  SPEAKER_00: third at Mammoth 50K in 2023.
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  SPEAKER_00: She has lots of ultra experience and lots of good results as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'd say she's also somebody to look out for.
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  SPEAKER_00: With regards to my female picks, I'm going to go fifth, Amy Sturgill.
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  SPEAKER_00: Fourth, Cat Short.
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  SPEAKER_00: Third, Learn Puritz.
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  SPEAKER_00: Second, Nicole Hansen.
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  SPEAKER_00: And first, Kareth Arnold.
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  So that kind of wraps up the men's and women picks for Twisted
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  Fork 68K and 30K.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have a lot to look forward to with the upcoming weeks.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next week is going to be Broken Arrow.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to start working on doing research for that.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's going to take a lot because there's going to be a lot of really,
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  SPEAKER_00: really fast runners doing it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's Broken Arrow 46K,
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  SPEAKER_00: 23K,
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  SPEAKER_00: and The Ascent,
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  SPEAKER_00: which I should honestly start working on right now.
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  And then the week after that is also going to be packed
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  Marathon of Mont Blanc,
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  SPEAKER_00: Laborator,
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  SPEAKER_00: Western States.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Marathon to Mont Blanc, the marathon.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, it's going to be a busy time.
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  It might be kind of hard for me to get a podcast on all those,
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  but I will do my best.
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  SPEAKER_00: Broken Arrow and Western States will for sure be my focuses.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I might put together Marathon to Mont Blanc in Labrador into one.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of what to look forward to.
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  SPEAKER_00: I really appreciate everyone listening.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, can't wait for the next one.