Latest / The Bootleg Kev Podcast / #676 - Haiti Babii Talks Stockton, Viral Freestyle, Jeezy, Nor-Cal Politics, Swamp Storiez & More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: M just getting man the Blue Black Cap Podcast. We
- 0:05Speaker 1: got a special guest in here, Haiti Baby was hand
- 0:08Speaker 1: hand was handing this chain you got on. It's very impressive,
- 0:11Speaker 1: rag Baby. That ship is a lot. Yeah. What's up man?
- 0:16Speaker 1: How you been I've been cool? How you been been solid? Brother?
- 0:19Speaker 1: How was this tour you had with Blue Face? What
- 0:21Speaker 1: was this experience like cause he's streaming his baby mama
- 0:24Speaker 1: drama happening? Yeah, all that. It was fun though.
- 0:27Speaker 2: It was fun though, like me one take e l
- 0:30Speaker 2: Flame jat five content av.
- 0:32Speaker 1: There was a lot of people on that tour. Yeah,
- 0:35Speaker 1: was Ot on it? Ot?
- 0:36Speaker 2: Yeah, Ot Genesis, Yeah, his baby Mama. Both of them
- 0:40Speaker 2: performed too, some some dates.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Both of OT's baby Mama, her Blue Faces. So it
- 0:46Speaker 1: was just it was just like we was just having fun.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Everybody was doing everything that sounded like a lot. Yeah, yeah,
- 0:51Speaker 1: yeah for sure. Was that was that your most like
- 0:53Speaker 1: fun touring experience being on the road with all that craziness.
- 0:57Speaker 1: Huh yeah, we're like the I'm indifferent on a tour
- 1:01Speaker 1: like that because Blueface brings out the hose. He bring
- 1:04Speaker 1: out the hose, But like I was isolated, you're isolated. Yeah,
- 1:08Speaker 1: And then well you're in a relationship. Yeah, so are
- 1:11Speaker 1: you paranoid because you're live on the internet sometimes? No.
- 1:15Speaker 1: I think I've always liked that though, because like that
- 1:18Speaker 1: he's streaming the whole time. Yeah, so you know I
- 1:22Speaker 1: wouldn't do it anyway, Yeah, I would have. I just
- 1:25Speaker 1: I get super uncomfortable being live on the internet if
- 1:27Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck's going on, you know. Yeah,
- 1:30Speaker 1: so that was like kind of a traveling reality show.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Love it hip hop? Yeah for sure? For sure? Man?
- 1:36Speaker 1: So what else been going on? Man? I just dropped
- 1:38Speaker 1: the album New three Independent? So so when you say because,
- 1:42Speaker 1: I feel like you've always been kind of independent. So
- 1:44Speaker 1: when you say independent, now, what does that mean to you?
- 1:49Speaker 1: Mend percent in control? So you like doing the distro
- 1:52Speaker 1: kid thing or you're doing like, how are you doing
- 1:54Speaker 1: the distribution sarta? Okay?
- 1:57Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah they're like three hundreds wing Yeah.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Yeah. You know the new manager to pk oh PK
- 2:03Speaker 1: Yeah yeah from the bay. Yeah. Does that mean you
- 2:05Speaker 1: also know John Costinn? Yeah? John, the oldest, youngest bro
- 2:09Speaker 1: with the craziest hairline you've ever seen. Yeah, to be
- 2:13Speaker 1: best friend. He's literal right, He's the one who had
- 2:16Speaker 1: to teach me how to move around in the bay
- 2:18Speaker 1: with like the rental car windows and ship. Oh you
- 2:20Speaker 1: gotta leave that ship down, leave it down. Pop the trunk.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Yeah they're running there. Did the bipping thing ever make
- 2:28Speaker 1: it to Stockton? Not really, but we knew about it,
- 2:33Speaker 1: but yeah, it's the thing. And well, I think I
- 2:36Speaker 1: heard it's calmed down a little bit because I heard
- 2:37Speaker 1: they put cameras everywhere and I'm sitting money like that,
- 2:40Speaker 1: So you going to someone car and really find it something.
- 2:42Speaker 1: It's like what we was doing.
- 2:44Speaker 2: We was still in cards and then doing donuts in
- 2:46Speaker 2: him and then dropping them off.
- 2:48Speaker 1: Dropping them off somewhere. Yeah, what is it about Stockton?
- 2:51Speaker 1: You think that like makes it such a violent place
- 2:54Speaker 1: because in hip hop we just think of it as
- 2:55Speaker 1: like the op killing capital of like rap music and point.
- 3:00Speaker 1: It's kind of it's got, but I feel like you
- 3:02Speaker 1: came in the game with like your own energy early on.
- 3:05Speaker 1: But now it's like the whole entire like negative side
- 3:07Speaker 1: of stock and I feel like it's kind of taken
- 3:09Speaker 1: over the the national perception of the city.
- 3:14Speaker 2: It was, it's rough, it was rough growing up like
- 3:17Speaker 2: every other hood though, right, I think y'all just got
- 3:20Speaker 2: to see our trauma like displayed because it's new. Stockton
- 3:26Speaker 2: was cool to live in for a while, and then
- 3:28Speaker 2: my generation fucked it.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Up, right, you know because a lot of people were
- 3:31Speaker 1: having to like move there from the Bay because the
- 3:34Speaker 1: baby was getting too expensive.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Yeah, in La so like people from Los angelesten to
- 3:40Speaker 2: people from migrated because I was born in the town, right,
- 3:43Speaker 2: so my mama moved me out there to stock this Like.
- 3:46Speaker 1: You think the younger generation fucked everything up?
- 3:50Speaker 2: Yeah, we just yeah, it was, but we had more
- 3:53Speaker 2: access to guns and stuff.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Why do you think why do you think you have
- 3:56Speaker 1: more access to guns than Stockton? Well, I feel like
- 3:59Speaker 1: different guns right from your first having them real joints. Yeah.
- 4:03Speaker 2: When I was when I was like thirteen, I had
- 4:05Speaker 2: an ARP.
- 4:06Speaker 1: That's crazy. How do you get an ARP if thirteen?
- 4:08Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is geration? Would you get it?
- 4:12Speaker 2: It's stole it from who I got a gun and
- 4:15Speaker 2: I'll say, let me hold it and I just take
- 4:16Speaker 2: it from me.
- 4:18Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean, but do you feel like a
- 4:22Speaker 1: lot of the YouTube documentaries kind of like added to
- 4:27Speaker 1: because I feel like there was like this whole sub
- 4:29Speaker 1: genre of like stocked in YouTube.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Like swamp Stories and all them. Yeah, like it's fifty
- 4:34Speaker 2: to fifty fifty fifty.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Because I'm sure it helped with a lot of people's Lord,
- 4:37Speaker 1: That's why I said, because he made he can make
- 4:41Speaker 1: you against it.
- 4:42Speaker 2: He can make people really believe like this is in
- 4:44Speaker 2: your musical sales, so he can help you.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think swamp story I got like swamp
- 4:48Speaker 1: stories helped some people, helped some people. Yeah, he knows it.
- 4:52Speaker 1: Have you seen uh that now he's like showing his face.
- 4:56Speaker 1: He's like a normal white dude. I assume. I remember
- 5:00Speaker 1: he used to talk crazy. Yeah, and I was assuming
- 5:03Speaker 1: this dude was like you know, like I don't know.
- 5:06Speaker 2: I mean the eyes of somebody seeing him was just
- 5:08Speaker 2: killing him for that is crazy.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna say, like, if you're him, I
- 5:11Speaker 1: wonder if you're like worried about because you've ignited a
- 5:15Speaker 1: lot of beef and it. He's definitely had a lot
- 5:16Speaker 1: of beef with people on social media. So now he's
- 5:19Speaker 1: like exposed.
- 5:21Speaker 2: But he hasn't killed nobody, like, so I feel like
- 5:25Speaker 2: he's doing his same. He's just talking.
- 5:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he had some really good I mean
- 5:29Speaker 1: I was. I thought he did a good job with
- 5:30Speaker 1: the putting those videos out, like they were entertaining, if
- 5:33Speaker 1: that's what you're into. But I feel like he started
- 5:35Speaker 1: a lot of shit in Northern California for sure.
- 5:39Speaker 2: So I think it was already started and he just
- 5:41Speaker 2: like money off the light on it. Yeah.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, all right, well, nobody else is talking
- 5:46Speaker 1: about that type shit he turned up. I mean, and
- 5:50Speaker 1: and it did help with turning up DC baby Draco
- 5:53Speaker 1: Julik he was doing it too. Yeah, for sure, I
- 5:55Speaker 1: think I had the DC baby Draco dude was here
- 5:58Speaker 1: with the what's that what's her name? Jalise Jalise yeaheah.
- 6:02Speaker 1: They did a uh they did a podcast with whack Hair.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Was liked WF but for real, it was interesting. I
- 6:11Speaker 1: don't know, So talk to me, man, what ended up
- 6:16Speaker 1: happening you For a while there were banging g Zy ship,
- 6:18Speaker 1: the CTE ship, and you were like kind of the
- 6:20Speaker 1: second big artist from the I mean two eleven was
- 6:22Speaker 1: over there back in the day. Yeah, what ended up
- 6:26Speaker 1: happening with you and CTE?
- 6:28Speaker 2: It wasn't really c it was dev Jam Okay, he
- 6:31Speaker 2: had like a partnership with dev Jam right, So he
- 6:35Speaker 2: was like executive being for the project of me. But
- 6:38Speaker 2: then he like he I felt like he wasn't super
- 6:42Speaker 2: hands on being executive with me, and so they were
- 6:45Speaker 2: stepping up and I didn't like that.
- 6:47Speaker 1: I would saying, Jesus, I'm like, like I need you.
- 6:49Speaker 2: But they over here trying to change my image, telling
- 6:51Speaker 2: me to cut my hair, just stuff that I was like,
- 6:54Speaker 2: that ain't really me.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Yeah, but you were like a good looking, like swow
- 6:57Speaker 1: ass motherfucker, Like why would want you to switch up
- 6:59Speaker 1: your they wanted to me. I don't know.
- 7:03Speaker 2: Well, I don't really think GZ knew who he signed.
- 7:06Speaker 2: You know, we did an interview at the BT thing
- 7:08Speaker 2: when I first got with with you.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like do you know who you got?
- 7:12Speaker 2: Like, because when he found me through Trey, which is
- 7:15Speaker 2: the n R the songs, he I said.
- 7:18Speaker 1: What the songs you know about me?
- 7:19Speaker 2: I just asked him, And there was certain records, like
- 7:21Speaker 2: you know, he knew against the tracks like never seen
- 7:24Speaker 2: party rocking that shit. I did a harminator he didn't know,
- 7:27Speaker 2: like Blue Dragon, like.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Boo, blue Dragon, is that the gold one? Is that
- 7:31Speaker 1: the one? Blue Dragon? No, that's not gold.
- 7:34Speaker 2: Change of Life is platinum, and then Distractions is going gold.
- 7:37Speaker 2: Those are what I did with YP and Stock then
- 7:40Speaker 2: so those are going blue.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Dragon came out around the time that that was right
- 7:45Speaker 1: after our freestyle. Yeah, I already had that song done.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Then I did the freestyle purposely like, yeah, I'm finna
- 7:50Speaker 2: market this.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Did you outside of I mean, that was the most
- 7:55Speaker 1: viral shit ever. That ship was crazy. I gotta try
- 7:57Speaker 1: to crank it back up. But now it's kind of
- 7:59Speaker 1: like every every couple of weeks, somebody some little tag
- 8:03Speaker 1: like the worst freestyles of all time, and it'll be
- 8:04Speaker 1: like ten of them and they'll be me riff raff. Yeah,
- 8:07Speaker 1: but riff raff rap though riff raff. It's always off
- 8:10Speaker 1: the top of his head. I needed him that. Do
- 8:13Speaker 1: you you look back at that freestyle and and I
- 8:15Speaker 1: guess to me, ask you, what was the biggest curse
- 8:17Speaker 1: of that freestyle? Was it? Or was there a curse
- 8:20Speaker 1: to it that he can't wrap that? People will be like, yes,
- 8:23Speaker 1: it's the worst, and then when you go listen to
- 8:25Speaker 1: the music, it's like, oh, this motherfucking rap. Yeah.
- 8:28Speaker 2: So now it's like if I want to revamp it,
- 8:30Speaker 2: I don't want to do it again. I think just
- 8:32Speaker 2: try to make I should just post it again.
- 8:35Speaker 1: I just didn't know. I remember because Jiggy brought you
- 8:38Speaker 1: up to the station and I was like, did you
- 8:42Speaker 1: know he was gonna do that? No, none of them did,
- 8:45Speaker 1: none of He's like, no idea, dude. But it was
- 8:48Speaker 1: like the most I didn't think I was gonna post it,
- 8:50Speaker 1: but I really wanted to go to post it. Well.
- 8:52Speaker 1: I remember like when we when we when we played it,
- 8:54Speaker 1: because we played it for the mixers, We're like, you
- 8:59Speaker 1: guys got to understand how crazy this freestyle is. And
- 9:01Speaker 1: everybody was like split. Some people were like, yo, this
- 9:05Speaker 1: is gonna go viral, and everybody else was like this
- 9:07Speaker 1: ship is horrible. But I was like, yo, there's something
- 9:11Speaker 1: about this freestyle. Yeah, it's like you fucking caught the
- 9:14Speaker 1: Holy Ghost in the middle of it. I was just saying, like,
- 9:17Speaker 1: you were fucking possessed random ship. Hi, Hi Hi. And
- 9:21Speaker 1: then I end up putting it in my music. Yeah. Crazy,
- 9:24Speaker 1: And then obviously you have like Rihanna reposted yeah, uh,
- 9:28Speaker 1: Chrissy Tigan, Chrissy, Meek mil too, Meek Mill. He tried
- 9:32Speaker 1: to sign me Meek tried to sign it to Dream Chasers.
- 9:35Speaker 2: Yeah, he talked to Ghazi and I was and then
- 9:38Speaker 2: guy he talked to me. I was like, nah with
- 9:40Speaker 2: you GUYSI yeah, yeah.
- 9:41Speaker 1: It wasn't like do you regret not giving it a look? No,
- 9:44Speaker 1: I don't get it. Yeah. I don't think that there
- 9:46Speaker 1: was another artist on Dream Chasers that ever on his label.
- 9:50Speaker 1: I don't think. So maybe maybe I'm tripping. Maybe I
- 9:52Speaker 1: just feel like I was cool with Gassy. I'm like
- 9:53Speaker 1: the singer chick. I don't remember her name, but yeah,
- 9:56Speaker 1: but you got rocking with Oh yeah, I was just
- 9:58Speaker 1: rocking with guys.
- 9:59Speaker 2: So I'm like, I didn't take no deal, Like hell,
- 10:01Speaker 2: it offers on the table run a time.
- 10:03Speaker 1: I stuck. Well, you definitely uh have placked a lot
- 10:07Speaker 1: with Empire. H. So it's like, well, if I'm already
- 10:10Speaker 1: getting this money independently. Yeah, So you got a lot
- 10:13Speaker 1: of people reach out after that freestyle. Every label, everyone
- 10:16Speaker 1: tried to sign it. Everyone. What was the hardest one
- 10:18Speaker 1: to say no to?
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- 11:51Speaker 2: I was it was hard to say no because I
- 11:54Speaker 2: was supposed to sign the same day, same day Little
- 11:56Speaker 2: TJ and Polo G sign.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but all that time.
- 12:00Speaker 2: But my history with Empire was already deep, Like I
- 12:02Speaker 2: signed the same day XX tenC on sign.
- 12:04Speaker 1: So I was just feeling like, I'm like, we family,
- 12:08Speaker 1: and I'm sure Gods really I mean you, I mean
- 12:10Speaker 1: the way Empires are pretty flexible, bout letting people move around.
- 12:12Speaker 1: Guys was keeping the real guys.
- 12:13Speaker 2: Was like, I feel like, if you do want to sign,
- 12:15Speaker 2: get a couple more records on your belt, then go.
- 12:17Speaker 1: And I was like, nah, I'm gonna just just rock. Yeah.
- 12:20Speaker 2: They was off of millions. I was like, nah, I
- 12:23Speaker 2: feel like I'm gonna get screwed.
- 12:24Speaker 1: Do you feel like you are kind of the og
- 12:27Speaker 1: of Stockton at this point? Yeah, I'm old. Now. I
- 12:31Speaker 1: feel like it's like you and now are like very
- 12:33Speaker 1: like just the old old rapper dudes. Now, yeah you.
- 12:39Speaker 2: All right?
- 12:39Speaker 1: You guys away? Yeah, you know in a way. Yeah,
- 12:42Speaker 1: you're right, you're right. Who would you put on the
- 12:45Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore of Stockton? Hip hop? Me?
- 12:52Speaker 2: Okay, me, Jbo, Neil Rariri and j Black Okay? You
- 12:57Speaker 2: know who knows other not the last two? Oh is
- 13:00Speaker 2: Jo's dad?
- 13:01Speaker 1: Oh ship? Yeah? He Pass's dad was a rapper. Yeah,
- 13:05Speaker 1: he passed away. When I was young, I was supposed
- 13:07Speaker 1: to do an interview with Jabo at some ranch and
- 13:10Speaker 1: I don't know, like a week later he they canceled
- 13:13Speaker 1: it and then he ended up going to jail. Yeah.
- 13:15Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, he was just up
- 13:17Speaker 1: north and now he's in Arkansas. What the fuck is
- 13:19Speaker 1: going on?
- 13:20Speaker 2: We had we had rappers back then, like like t Tall,
- 13:25Speaker 2: Like we have a battle rap scene in Stockton too.
- 13:27Speaker 1: Oh be Causida used to pull up there. Oh that's dope. Yeah,
- 13:30Speaker 1: we had a batter rap scene out there. Did you
- 13:32Speaker 1: ever do any battle rapping?
- 13:33Speaker 2: I tried, and then I just kept it and I
- 13:35Speaker 2: was just I'm gonna just do it. In high school,
- 13:37Speaker 2: I'm gonna just wrap because my friends. Yeah, it wasn't
- 13:39Speaker 2: really fol me.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Do you feel like because it felt like for a
- 13:45Speaker 1: while there, Stockton was getting a lot of love from
- 13:48Speaker 1: like academics, like I guess a lot of people who
- 13:51Speaker 1: couldn't break out of the West Coast. Stockton wasn't having
- 13:53Speaker 1: that problem when it came to getting some attention from
- 13:55Speaker 1: like some of the other facemakers nationwide.
- 13:57Speaker 2: Cauld we we I feel like we we bo. We're
- 14:01Speaker 2: gonna say something that people be like, whoa, what the fuck?
- 14:04Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, yeah, for sure. But then it's like
- 14:07Speaker 1: the other side of it is like then there's like
- 14:09Speaker 1: these crazy, like tragic shootings. Well it's real.
- 14:12Speaker 2: That's the only difference between a lot of other cities.
- 14:16Speaker 2: It's actually real. So like if you go there, the chances.
- 14:19Speaker 1: And it's a small place. Yeah, Like I went there
- 14:21Speaker 1: once with Brian Samson. Do you know Brian Sampson is
- 14:23Speaker 1: Brian Yeah, that fat fuck. He hated the freestyle. Oh
- 14:27Speaker 1: he hated it so much. He was like this is embarrassing.
- 14:30Speaker 1: But he was a team Neil. He was seeing b
- 14:31Speaker 1: nail and then when he met me, he was like, oh,
- 14:33Speaker 1: this guy's cool. No, no, actually it's funny because me and
- 14:36Speaker 1: me and Samson are I talked about him, I think
- 14:39Speaker 1: before you freestyle. Yeah, in the beginning of our of
- 14:41Speaker 1: your freestyle on the show, I was like, do you
- 14:43Speaker 1: know Brian Samson? That fat fuck? So he hated the freestyle,
- 14:48Speaker 1: but he took me to Stockton one day. I was
- 14:50Speaker 1: in I was in the Bay when I was working
- 14:51Speaker 1: at the Empire, and I was gonna fly back home
- 14:55Speaker 1: to LA in the morning. But Samson was like, Yo,
- 14:57Speaker 1: I'm driving back, just ride with me, mm hmm. And
- 15:00Speaker 1: I was like, I fuck it. You know, so little
- 15:02Speaker 1: did he know like that, He didn't fucking tell me
- 15:05Speaker 1: that he was taking a long way so we could
- 15:06Speaker 1: stop and stocking and see his fucking family. I wake
- 15:09Speaker 1: up and he's like, yo, can't wake up. I'm in
- 15:12Speaker 1: front of some fucking park. He's riding me around the
- 15:14Speaker 1: fucking hood and I'm like, bro, why am I in
- 15:17Speaker 1: Stockton right now? Yeah? What the fuck? You know? He
- 15:21Speaker 1: showed me, you know, he showed me the the You know,
- 15:23Speaker 1: it's a small place, but it's very you know what
- 15:27Speaker 1: park I'm talking about. We got most of the parks. Yeah,
- 15:29Speaker 1: I'm sure there's more than one park. He was like, yeah,
- 15:32Speaker 1: you know this this I think it was around where
- 15:34Speaker 1: Neil's from, but it was definitely South I think, so. Yeah,
- 15:39Speaker 1: he was tripping. He bro, It's like fucking midnight and
- 15:42Speaker 1: we're driving Around'm like, bro, why do you have me
- 15:44Speaker 1: in the fucking trenches of stock I gotta show you, gav.
- 15:47Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my only time I wouldn't do that. Thank
- 15:51Speaker 2: you right around Stocking, like that'll bring you somewhere.
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- 16:42Speaker 1: shit because you got are so close to each other?
- 16:44Speaker 1: Does that like be like cities? Yeah?
- 16:46Speaker 2: Yeah, the politic wise is not supposed to though, Like Sack.
- 16:50Speaker 2: People be looking at that like it's corny, Like why
- 16:52Speaker 2: y'all in our politics? But everybody not in it?
- 16:56Speaker 1: Right right?
- 16:56Speaker 2: Right?
- 16:56Speaker 1: Right? A few? What about this the Bay shit bleed
- 16:59Speaker 1: over at all to Stock No, no separate bang. But
- 17:03Speaker 1: I see they trying to do the rap beef and
- 17:05Speaker 1: do it.
- 17:06Speaker 2: But it's just it's not it's not it's not the same. No,
- 17:09Speaker 2: it's too many people in the Bay that's like we
- 17:11Speaker 2: players wed.
- 17:13Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like the Bay area has got that
- 17:14Speaker 1: flavor where it's like just fly ship like Larry June
- 17:18Speaker 1: or some ship you know, or even like a guy
- 17:20Speaker 1: like Pelow Like I feel like I don't think no, I
- 17:23Speaker 1: don't think you should. I don't think no.
- 17:24Speaker 2: City and Cali should pick up stocked in his sex culture.
- 17:29Speaker 2: Let us do our thing. But I don't think you
- 17:31Speaker 2: should pick it out. I think because it's it's it's
- 17:34Speaker 2: the devil. It's getting close to the devil as you
- 17:35Speaker 2: possibly can do.
- 17:36Speaker 1: You feel like any responsibility for kind of being the
- 17:39Speaker 1: big homie out of Stockton now and like kind of
- 17:42Speaker 1: making sure that you know, you set an example. Yeah,
- 17:46Speaker 1: I still do set examples.
- 17:48Speaker 2: Yeah, so they talk to the youth, my homies and
- 17:51Speaker 2: ship keep their hair right, doing songs with them, keeping
- 17:54Speaker 2: them motivated.
- 17:54Speaker 1: Because anybody who's dope, who's going to come up out there?
- 17:57Speaker 1: Baby quack baby, he going crazy. It's agreed. He finna
- 18:00Speaker 1: blow up. Yeah, baby quack pop dough. Yeah yeah, I
- 18:04Speaker 1: like the baby quack name. Yeah, they go crazy.
- 18:07Speaker 2: And my brother me me look yah yay, Yeah, they
- 18:10Speaker 2: all going crazy right now. It took a while for
- 18:12Speaker 2: us to really you know, when I look at him
- 18:15Speaker 2: now and I listened to him, I'm like, oh, yeah,
- 18:17Speaker 2: y'all got it.
- 18:17Speaker 1: Tell me about the new album. Who's on the new album?
- 18:20Speaker 1: Trap ar three? Yeah? She is mostly just me, no
- 18:23Speaker 1: features like I do. But let me see. I like
- 18:28Speaker 1: how he doesn't know who's on his album, like the
- 18:30Speaker 1: samples type Ship but basically features let me see we
- 18:38Speaker 1: can look at it together. Trap ar three, you got uh?
- 18:44Speaker 1: I got Mark Nasty? Who's Mark Nasty? R J? Savvy? Third,
- 18:49Speaker 1: Wally Descend That wasn't even my song, though, well, what's
- 18:52Speaker 1: on your fucking album? I know whose song was it?
- 18:55Speaker 1: It was supposed to be Sabby's. He's locked up though,
- 18:58Speaker 1: great guy, Yeah, that's my dog. I dropped it. I'm like,
- 19:01Speaker 1: let me put this on the album. It was going
- 19:03Speaker 1: while he's on there too. Yes, we got Wally RJ.
- 19:06Speaker 2: My favorite song with Tusqito and Mark Little Duty. Oh
- 19:10Speaker 2: Little Duty, that's my cousin. Yeah, that's a great name too. Yeah,
- 19:13Speaker 2: he going crazy too. You gotta check him out. He's
- 19:15Speaker 2: from Stockton. No, he from the Bay.
- 19:19Speaker 1: You were born and you say you're born in Oakland?
- 19:20Speaker 1: I was born in Oakland. I moved when I was
- 19:22Speaker 1: like two. So your family's Bay area.
- 19:25Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like my mom was in foster care, so
- 19:28Speaker 2: she got a lot of family.
- 19:29Speaker 1: In the Bay.
- 19:30Speaker 2: So, okay, got Ship. But all our family on my
- 19:33Speaker 2: mom's side are our family from Guyana.
- 19:35Speaker 1: Oh Ship.
- 19:36Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom like first first generation in this country. Wow,
- 19:39Speaker 2: So yeah, have you been? No, I haven't been in Guhana.
- 19:42Speaker 2: I missed our little family get together. It was in
- 19:44Speaker 2: San Diego. They all came, but I'm missing ur.
- 19:46Speaker 1: It't beautiful out there. Yeah, you gotta go, man, you're
- 19:49Speaker 1: a successful guy. You got a giant dragon chain. You
- 19:51Speaker 1: fucking go to Guyana.
- 19:53Speaker 2: I'm back working though. That's why I don't even remember
- 19:55Speaker 2: who was on my album. I'm working on trap Our five,
- 19:57Speaker 2: trap Our four done?
- 19:59Speaker 1: You already got four and then five. It's what you're
- 20:02Speaker 1: working on. Is there something that's that you like about
- 20:04Speaker 1: the ind of like being fully independent? That's like a
- 20:07Speaker 1: little different than when you know you would have to
- 20:09Speaker 1: submit stuff to the project manager over the Empire and
- 20:12Speaker 1: get stuff cleared and all that good ship, Like are
- 20:14Speaker 1: you I hated that? Oh, I've been there. Who's your
- 20:19Speaker 1: PM at Empire Project?
- 20:23Speaker 2: We tried Gentry and me and Gentry to see how
- 20:26Speaker 2: he cool now though, and we got to it's.
- 20:28Speaker 1: Like a little Leprechaan with chrome hearts on. Yeah. I
- 20:32Speaker 1: love Gentry.
- 20:33Speaker 2: I forgot the girl's name though, No, I forgot her name.
- 20:37Speaker 2: Who's my product manage?
- 20:38Speaker 1: Not Chelsea? Though she had all the Detroit. Bruh oh yeah,
- 20:44Speaker 1: they used to be an Empire Studio. Yo. The Empire
- 20:47Speaker 1: Studios is nice. It's gotten a lot nicer too. When
- 20:50Speaker 1: it first got built, me too. And they had that
- 20:52Speaker 1: fucking invisible podcast studio that had been worked on for
- 20:57Speaker 1: like three years and it never came, And now it's
- 20:58Speaker 1: finally there.
- 20:59Speaker 2: I lived my mic there. I never want to go
- 21:01Speaker 2: get it back.
- 21:02Speaker 1: Fuck. It also kind of like an active spot, like
- 21:05Speaker 1: there's a lot of there could be a lot of
- 21:06Speaker 1: people there at the same time as all ago. Yeah,
- 21:09Speaker 1: the Empire Studios could go walking goddamns like Twolve fucking
- 21:12Speaker 1: sessions going on.
- 21:13Speaker 2: Yeah, and then like I'm in so many politics I
- 21:16Speaker 2: don't want to walk in and somebody feel a certain
- 21:19Speaker 2: way like yoga hated here over here, and it's like
- 21:22Speaker 2: you might, yeah.
- 21:23Speaker 1: Well you're not. Are you in a lot of politics
- 21:25Speaker 1: outside of Stockton? Is just in stock like Stockton issues
- 21:28Speaker 1: or did you have issues with anybody outside.
- 21:30Speaker 2: Of I'm in c So that's a Northern crypt. I
- 21:33Speaker 2: got the biggest card. So like I feel like I'm new,
- 21:37Speaker 2: I feel like I'm cool, like people see me. I
- 21:39Speaker 2: feel like it's cool, but I never know what you own.
- 21:41Speaker 1: So Northern Crip would be the biggest Northern California cryp
- 21:45Speaker 1: card is it? It is just Northern Crip yep. And
- 21:50Speaker 1: then there's a bunch of different blood off shoots out there,
- 21:54Speaker 1: off shoots I don't know, like different is there is
- 21:57Speaker 1: there one.
- 21:58Speaker 2: Blood spending time with County shit. They either be like
- 22:02Speaker 2: the Stars or u Zilla like.
- 22:04Speaker 1: So they have two things Exaid far as Sack. But
- 22:07Speaker 1: I don't really know about the Bay. The Bay got
- 22:08Speaker 1: their own car. I know the Mexicans up there are red.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Northals, yes, yeah, but they stay and they do it
- 22:14Speaker 2: to themselves.
- 22:15Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know all. I didn't even know before
- 22:18Speaker 1: I moved to La. Like even the Asians up top
- 22:20Speaker 1: is Northern Crips? Well is it not? I mean Mbnail's
- 22:24Speaker 1: he's a Northern Crip right yeah right, but he got
- 22:26Speaker 1: a whole hood out in Long Beach. Oh yeah, the
- 22:29Speaker 1: oh stupid young bro I was in. Uh. I went
- 22:32Speaker 1: to Thailand for fucking uh Rolling Loud two years ago
- 22:37Speaker 1: and one of their big homies is like the man
- 22:42Speaker 1: in Thailand. So he's from Long Beach and uh they yeah,
- 22:46Speaker 1: I think I've seen it before. Yeah, so we're I'm
- 22:49Speaker 1: in fucking Thailand for like twelve days, dude fucking partying
- 22:52Speaker 1: with stupid young and all his homies and ship. And
- 22:54Speaker 1: then his boy runs like a dispensary out there called
- 22:57Speaker 1: California's Finest. Yeah, and uh hidden, I know, he get
- 23:01Speaker 1: chilling out and they got great weed out there, real
- 23:04Speaker 1: brou I was tripping. I thought for sure it was
- 23:06Speaker 1: gonna be some bullshit. The weed in Thailand fucks. That
- 23:09Speaker 1: ship is fire. Damn. I don't smoke. You don't do
- 23:13Speaker 1: anything right. You don't drink or anything right. I drink
- 23:16Speaker 1: here and there. Yeah, I don't really. Yeah, I remember
- 23:19Speaker 1: that you were pretty sober? Yeah, was there a reason
- 23:22Speaker 1: why you decided not to? I started doing drugs hell early,
- 23:25Speaker 1: so that's why what kind of drugs were doing everything?
- 23:29Speaker 2: Like after I graduated high school, I started doing coke,
- 23:35Speaker 2: I started smoking, I started popping perks, sipping lean.
- 23:39Speaker 1: You were doing all the ship, the whole rapper fucking handbook. Yeah,
- 23:43Speaker 1: but I was. I was in a dark place though.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Which drug did you like the most?
- 23:49Speaker 3: Mmm?
- 23:51Speaker 1: Syrup? I was? I like that? But I was spending
- 23:54Speaker 1: all my money on that ship. That shit is expensive
- 23:56Speaker 1: and that should have you drinking helisoda. Yeah. The motherfuckers
- 24:01Speaker 1: be drinking lean man, they drink so much sugar. Yeah,
- 24:04Speaker 1: I've been. I'm like everybody looked like Adrian Browner. Yeah
- 24:08Speaker 1: with that belly, the lean gut, can't do it.
- 24:11Speaker 2: I'm going on like what seven to eight years or
- 24:15Speaker 2: seven years when I'm doing nothing.
- 24:16Speaker 1: That's dope. Yeah, that's why I got my muscle on,
- 24:19Speaker 1: like I can work out. Be cool, bro, I've only
- 24:21Speaker 1: done weed and shrooms is cool.
- 24:24Speaker 2: I'm pro marijuana, Like, I just don't smoke right right,
- 24:26Speaker 2: It's just not for you. It's not for me, but
- 24:28Speaker 2: you can smoke around me. Shooms is actually.
- 24:32Speaker 1: Are great. I've never done. Whoever wrote the Bible had
- 24:35Speaker 1: to be on shows for sure. Somebody was tripping, Like
- 24:40Speaker 1: there's some trippy ship in the Bible. Somebody should really
- 24:43Speaker 1: recreate them, Like I could do a TV show where
- 24:46Speaker 1: it's like super descriptive and tripped out versions of like
- 24:50Speaker 1: Bible stories, like somebody like Tim Burton or somebody you
- 24:54Speaker 1: know that the guy did he did a fucking Nightmare
- 24:58Speaker 1: before Christmas Tim Burton. All, Oh, I like that movie.
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- 25:04Speaker 1: our family. Yes, it's been so dope to partner with.
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- 25:17Speaker 1: I don't just put my name on anybody when we
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- 26:02Speaker 1: a big happy birthday to Raffi's just celebrated his fortieth birthday.
- 26:05Speaker 1: We had a good time in Vegas. Fifty cent was there,
- 26:08Speaker 1: Paula d was there, mad Rich was there. E c
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- 26:12Speaker 3: It was a movie, all right, Secretary of State was there.
- 26:15Speaker 1: We were just hanging out. Man show. Look shout out
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- 26:29Speaker 1: Let's get back to the podcast. Some trippy ass shit,
- 26:32Speaker 1: all right. So your new album is out now, you
- 26:34Speaker 1: got a part four already finished, Part five you're working on,
- 26:39Speaker 1: so you already have an idea when we're gonna release
- 26:40Speaker 1: a part four.
- 26:41Speaker 2: Nah, I ain't got no idea. I just just keep
- 26:43Speaker 2: working right now. I'm just focused on pushing Trap par three.
- 26:46Speaker 2: I love all my records, all my records on Trap
- 26:48Speaker 2: AR three banging. So I'm just like having fun just
- 26:51Speaker 2: going around promoting this shit.
- 26:53Speaker 1: Are you doing any other shows? I know you just
- 26:55Speaker 1: got off tour. Is there any other live stuff happening?
- 26:57Speaker 2: A bunch of people calling me trying to give me
- 26:59Speaker 2: to do collab tours with them. But right now I'm
- 27:01Speaker 2: just still doing hosts and shows promoting my my stard.
- 27:04Speaker 1: Will you still do shows in Stockton? I will? But
- 27:08Speaker 1: you know they be driving. Does the cops and all
- 27:11Speaker 1: that they be on your head? It be everybody, not
- 27:16Speaker 1: just the police, Like if you have a show and
- 27:19Speaker 1: might get shot up. Uh yeah yeah. Listen, man, I
- 27:24Speaker 1: think that fucking kids birthday party that got shut up.
- 27:26Speaker 1: That was the most tragic shit ever. People scared and
- 27:30Speaker 1: that event happening. God rest, everyone's soul lost their life,
- 27:34Speaker 1: probably fucked up a lot of.
- 27:37Speaker 2: Well it was the first time y'all seen it. It's
- 27:39Speaker 2: been happening. So what's going on in Stockton? It ain't
- 27:43Speaker 2: even game banging. It's just hurt people, hurt people. You know,
- 27:46Speaker 2: somebody kill your daughter, you go kill their son, and
- 27:48Speaker 2: then it's just just a cycle of.
- 27:50Speaker 1: Get back and it is. That's what's going on. This
- 27:53Speaker 1: has been going on. It's like somebody's got to stop it.
- 27:57Speaker 1: I mean, the only way to stop it is if
- 27:59Speaker 1: we die.
- 28:00Speaker 2: I died, Jabo died, and they'll die in our top
- 28:03Speaker 2: head is from Marho has died, then it's done.
- 28:06Speaker 1: If that's not, that's not it. If we don't die
- 28:08Speaker 1: and ain't gonna stop. That's crazy. Let's go keep going.
- 28:12Speaker 1: Do you try to stay out the way, like when
- 28:15Speaker 1: you go back home or do you even go back home? Yeah?
- 28:18Speaker 1: I go back home a lot. Is it even worth it? Though? Well?
- 28:23Speaker 2: I got family there, you know what I'm saying, and
- 28:26Speaker 2: people need me right, So.
- 28:29Speaker 1: I just wonder, like, what's the you know, Well, for.
- 28:32Speaker 2: A minute, when I was running around there, I had
- 28:33Speaker 2: a bluepoo vests round around ten the windows blullepoof vests.
- 28:36Speaker 1: I was good, But the cops got to know if
- 28:38Speaker 1: you're coming. Do you think when you come into town
- 28:40Speaker 1: they know you're there?
- 28:41Speaker 2: I think so, because I get pulled over and they'd
- 28:44Speaker 2: be like, hey the baby, I'll be like, yeah, slow
- 28:46Speaker 2: down south speed and let me go.
- 28:48Speaker 1: The never tell you that they like your music or anything. No, no,
- 28:52Speaker 1: Like I don't think they like, like, yeah, we love
- 28:55Speaker 1: that freestyle you did like that? That's crazy, man. Well hopefully, look,
- 29:03Speaker 1: you guys gotta fucking stay here. I think I gotta.
- 29:05Speaker 1: I've never had a relationship with the EBK guys, had
- 29:07Speaker 1: a great relationship with you and and B. Now you
- 29:12Speaker 1: guys seem to be very very You know, smart, well
- 29:16Speaker 1: capable guys who should stay here as long as possible.
- 29:20Speaker 1: Let me try. I mean, listen, man, it ain't worth.
- 29:23Speaker 2: It, dog, I feel it. But war is a part
- 29:27Speaker 2: of this planet. So I ain't never been no killing
- 29:29Speaker 2: when I was killing. That's how you gotta really think
- 29:32Speaker 2: about it. It's like how far are you gonna push
- 29:34Speaker 2: a person? How much can you say I'm gonna let
- 29:38Speaker 2: it go? When does it gonna get to a point
- 29:41Speaker 2: or you break? So that's what Stockton is doing right now.
- 29:45Speaker 2: You only can do something so many times for a
- 29:47Speaker 2: person before they break.
- 29:48Speaker 1: Do you feel like that tragic shooting that happened at
- 29:51Speaker 1: the kid's birthday party? Do you feel like people got
- 29:55Speaker 1: to the point where like, all right, this is getting
- 29:57Speaker 1: too much, we gotta stop. Or do you feel like
- 29:59Speaker 1: it united more united? Moore?
- 30:02Speaker 2: Yeah, there are positive people don't want it to stop.
- 30:04Speaker 2: But those kids who see their cousins pass away, what
- 30:09Speaker 2: you think they're gonna grow up and do right, get
- 30:11Speaker 2: to try to get their get back. Maybe maybe yeah,
- 30:14Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's like it's sad you just
- 30:18Speaker 2: gotta leave.
- 30:19Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like a lot of people are getting
- 30:21Speaker 1: up out of there, you know, what I'm saying, getting spots.
- 30:23Speaker 1: I mean, if they raised the price, then that's the
- 30:27Speaker 1: other thing that can fix everything. If Stockton becomes all
- 30:30Speaker 1: of a sudden like barrier prices, everybody's just gonna leave.
- 30:35Speaker 2: I mean, two thousand a month for townhouse, three bedroom.
- 30:39Speaker 1: That's how I mean. Listen, I live in l A.
- 30:42Speaker 2: I don't even know if I wouldna be living in townhomes,
- 30:47Speaker 2: So it's gonna be it's like a you're gonna be
- 30:49Speaker 2: like dah, I'm in the hood.
- 30:50Speaker 1: Yeah, but the cheap as a motherfucker though, you know
- 30:52Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It is, but I just try to
- 30:54Speaker 1: keep it.
- 30:55Speaker 2: I know I'm coming off probably like hell of like Stern,
- 30:58Speaker 2: but as I'm keeping as rulers, I came with you
- 31:00Speaker 2: with this.
- 31:00Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I hope the cycle eventually ends. But like
- 31:04Speaker 1: as we know, it's a hard thing to be the
- 31:07Speaker 1: bigger man when you lose your family. There's only so
- 31:11Speaker 1: much you can say, so much you can take. Yeah,
- 31:13Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Man, All right, Well, listen, dude, go
- 31:16Speaker 1: support the album Trap R three yep, uh, are you
- 31:23Speaker 1: gonna read you say you're gonna try to re rework
- 31:25Speaker 1: the freestyle. Eventually, nah, I ain't gonna do it again.
- 31:28Speaker 1: I've dropped a freestyle today. You gotta come up with it.
- 31:31Speaker 1: We gotta go viral again. Yeah, come up with some
- 31:34Speaker 1: crazy shit. I can. I can't do it on like
- 31:37Speaker 1: the seventh or eighth, like I don't know what it
- 31:40Speaker 1: was twenty nineteen.
- 31:41Speaker 2: What I haven't did is seeing I haven't showed you
- 31:43Speaker 2: I can really sing. Really, I'm gonna go viral doing that.
- 31:46Speaker 1: Okay, we gotta do it for like the anniversary. We'll
- 31:49Speaker 1: have DJ head right there. Oh man, it's trying to
- 31:52Speaker 1: give me back. That was all time I've seen that video.
- 31:55Speaker 1: That's long. I was like, damn, I was hell a
- 31:56Speaker 1: little like one hundred and thirty pounds on it. I
- 32:00Speaker 1: just remember your boy Jiggy was always hitting me, y'all.
- 32:03Speaker 1: I got this kid, haitibaby, I don't care. Hey got
- 32:06Speaker 1: me off the streets too. I was literally in the streets.
- 32:10Speaker 1: What happened to Jiggy? Uh family? Yeah, I know he
- 32:13Speaker 1: don't work at kawin and he's put up. He's doing good. Yeah,
- 32:16Speaker 1: still a niner.
- 32:17Speaker 2: I don't think he was fucking with the with the
- 32:19Speaker 2: k Win thing anymore anyway, though. Yeah, it's not where
- 32:21Speaker 2: he really wanted to end that.
- 32:24Speaker 1: Right right, right, right now. Well listen, man shout out
- 32:26Speaker 1: to you, appreciate your pulling up. Oh yeah, Haiti baby
- 32:29Speaker 1: trap Part three Go get that man, go get it
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