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- 0:00Speaker 1: He's normally with us on Tuesday, but he had the flu.
- 0:03Speaker 1: He's back, he's up and taking fluids. One of our
- 0:06Speaker 1: favorite voices, John led Key joins us. Good morning, John,
- 0:10Speaker 1: Good morning, Jane.
- 0:11Speaker 2: How are you.
- 0:11Speaker 1: I'm good, Matt. Okay. Listen, As I mentioned to our
- 0:14Speaker 1: good listeners, you know, you started with this was I mean,
- 0:19Speaker 1: it was just amazing. You compared Trump and you said
- 0:22Speaker 1: that many of his policies were based on screenplays and
- 0:25Speaker 1: TV shows. And man, you hit it out of the park.
- 0:28Speaker 1: You hit it out of the park last week. So
- 0:30Speaker 1: let's see what your observations are about this week. You're
- 0:34Speaker 1: saying that Canada isn't watching a neighbor struggle. We're watching
- 0:38Speaker 1: a horror movie in real time. Explain, Yeah, that's exactly it.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Looking across the river from Windsor to Detroit, you see
- 0:46Speaker 2: the gorgeous America in Detroit skyline. But then you can't
- 0:49Speaker 2: fool you what we've been doing, watching the US slide
- 0:52Speaker 2: into a fever dream of problems. We're also letting our
- 0:55Speaker 2: own house sort of fall into ruin, but I'll put
- 0:57Speaker 2: that aside. It's a dumpster fire down below us. We
- 1:01Speaker 2: often hear that reference to the United States. But I
- 1:03Speaker 2: feel like we sometimes might use American chaos as a
- 1:07Speaker 2: smoke screen or a little bit of our own incompetence,
- 1:10Speaker 2: but we can dive into looking at the US a
- 1:12Speaker 2: little bit. Just because of this past week and a half,
- 1:15Speaker 2: those of the border of these headlines are reading like
- 1:17Speaker 2: a dystopian thriller. Federal agents are killing people on the
- 1:20Speaker 2: streets of Minneapolis. A congresswoman was assaulted at a town
- 1:24Speaker 2: hall with a noxious substance, ICE agents for trying to
- 1:27Speaker 2: kick down the doors of the Ecuadorian embassy like it
- 1:29Speaker 2: was a frat house. I mean, when all levels of
- 1:32Speaker 2: law become a suggestion box that nobody is putting anything
- 1:35Speaker 2: into the scripts has gone off the rails. We don't
- 1:38Speaker 2: have policy in the US anymore. It's a performative disaster.
- 1:42Speaker 2: And here in Canada, specifically in windsor fret row seats
- 1:44Speaker 2: for this re hurtzal.
- 1:46Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what. Here's what I find interesting though,
- 1:49Speaker 1: if you look up the law, and I did. By
- 1:52Speaker 1: the way, ICE agents are the equivalent of the FBI
- 1:56Speaker 1: or federal marshals. They are in fact police, and if
- 2:00Speaker 1: you impede them in their performance of trying to enforce
- 2:04Speaker 1: the law, then you can get arrested. And people have
- 2:08Speaker 1: been protesting, but they've also been impeding what they were
- 2:13Speaker 1: hired to do. And in fact, Trump won the election
- 2:16Speaker 1: and he campaigned on kicking illegal immigrants out of the
- 2:20Speaker 1: United States. Now, you know, I find it interesting that
- 2:24Speaker 1: the coverage on places like CNN, CBC, taxpayer funded Newsland
- 2:30Speaker 1: or whatever they call it, or CTV or MSNBC. You know,
- 2:35Speaker 1: it focuses Listen, I'm sick that these two people were
- 2:39Speaker 1: shot to death, but they focus on people impeding these
- 2:44Speaker 1: officers to fulfill what they're supposed to do. But they
- 2:47Speaker 1: never show pictures of rapists, murderers, child killers, degenerates, and
- 2:56Speaker 1: those are the people that are trying to catch and
- 2:58Speaker 1: kick out of the country. So why are people impeding
- 3:02Speaker 1: these officers when they're going after a rapist.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Well, they're not only going after rapists. The problem is
- 3:09Speaker 2: we saw that these two people that were killed were
- 3:11Speaker 2: just American citizens but didn't have any warrants, any criminal records.
- 3:17Speaker 2: But the fact of the matter is, you're right, law
- 3:19Speaker 2: enforcement does exist for a reason. Border control exists. Country
- 3:23Speaker 2: need to have borders sometimes that needs going within the
- 3:26Speaker 2: country to remove people from it. But what's the end goal,
- 3:29Speaker 2: what's the strategy here? Is it to simply remove every
- 3:32Speaker 2: single illegal alien in the country, because that's not something
- 3:38Speaker 2: that can actually be accomplished without things getting very dark,
- 3:42Speaker 2: very quickly. And we're looking at how that all plays out.
- 3:45Speaker 2: I watched the show Border Security on TV sometimes away.
- 3:50Speaker 2: It's a great show, right you get to see the
- 3:51Speaker 2: inside workings of how our borders operate. And there was
- 3:54Speaker 2: one Border Patrol officer who said, we got a notification
- 3:58Speaker 2: that the car that was at the turnstile ad a
- 4:01Speaker 2: fugitive who is armed and dangerous. So they pushed the
- 4:04Speaker 2: button and thirty five people all run out. And there
- 4:07Speaker 2: was one word sentence that the officer said at CDP,
- 4:11Speaker 2: and it was, we have to put our lives at
- 4:15Speaker 2: the highest most place when it comes to illegal aliens
- 4:19Speaker 2: coming into the country because they could take us down.
- 4:22Speaker 2: And that makes perfect sense. But when you deploy that
- 4:25Speaker 2: mentality within the country, that's where you see the breakdown
- 4:30Speaker 2: of law in order. If that's where you see non
- 4:32Speaker 2: de escalating factors. CDT doesn't know how to de escalate.
- 4:36Speaker 2: They only know how to escalate things up to the
- 4:38Speaker 2: highest level, and that's necessary to protect the border, but
- 4:42Speaker 2: citizens still have rights and that's what this issue is.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate that. Listen. You know, I'm a big
- 4:50Speaker 1: fan of the US that lived there for thirteen years,
- 4:52Speaker 1: legally work there, and I know a lot about how
- 4:55Speaker 1: the government works. If citizens are concerned about what ICE
- 4:59Speaker 1: is doing and they don't like it, the real form
- 5:01Speaker 1: of protest is to go to Congress and lobby Congress
- 5:06Speaker 1: to change things around so ICE are prevented from doing
- 5:11Speaker 1: what they're doing. I mean kicking out tail lights and
- 5:14Speaker 1: you know, using whistles and trying to put planters in
- 5:17Speaker 1: front of trucks. I mean, that's not going to change anything.
- 5:20Speaker 1: I got news for you. If you want change, Congress
- 5:23Speaker 1: has to do it. So why don't they go to
- 5:25Speaker 1: Washington and demonstrate? I hear you.
- 5:28Speaker 2: I think all for peaceful protests. I think that peaceful
- 5:31Speaker 2: protest stops being peaceful when you take over streets, let's say,
- 5:35Speaker 2: for days or weeks. We saw that here in Canada.
- 5:37Speaker 2: We saw that checkdown of the Ambassador Bridge, and that
- 5:40Speaker 2: inflicted billions of dollars of damaging the economy at hurt
- 5:43Speaker 2: windsor workers who were in the auto sector. That check
- 5:45Speaker 2: down all up the four old one. So where does
- 5:48Speaker 2: peaceful end when it starts to become painful for somebody else?
- 5:53Speaker 2: But I hear you go to the town square, go
- 5:56Speaker 2: to Congress, go lobby your senator. These people exist. This
- 6:01Speaker 2: is some of the issues that I've had with the
- 6:03Speaker 2: pro Palace Dyinancy Israel protesters that we've seen over the
- 6:07Speaker 2: past two years, is that they've been taking over streets.
- 6:10Speaker 2: They've been going to residential areas, neighborhoods. But why don't
- 6:13Speaker 2: you go to you know, Queen's Park, go to city Hall,
- 6:17Speaker 2: go to the places that you can actually affect change.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And why aren't the police arresting these
- 6:22Speaker 1: jew haters? They do nothing, especially in Toronto. Now, you
- 6:26Speaker 1: know you talked about the convoy. In just two weeks ago,
- 6:29Speaker 1: the Federal Appeals Court ruled that the government misused their
- 6:33Speaker 1: powers by locking up bank accounts and having the police
- 6:37Speaker 1: and horses, you know, take everything down. Look, you know what,
- 6:41Speaker 1: the convoy guys should have gone home when they made
- 6:43Speaker 1: their point. They overstayed in Ottawa and especially the honking
- 6:47Speaker 1: of horns. But the government equally got it wrong. And
- 6:52Speaker 1: you know, locking up people's bank accounts. Now, if it
- 6:55Speaker 1: is appealed one more time and it goes to the
- 6:58Speaker 1: Supreme Court of Canada. The head Justice of the Supreme Court,
- 7:02Speaker 1: when all of this was going on, and this wasn't
- 7:06Speaker 1: a case being presented, this was him as citizen talking.
- 7:10Speaker 1: He said, the convoy people were terrorists. So how if
- 7:15Speaker 1: it goes to the Supreme Court, How can you have
- 7:17Speaker 1: the Supreme Court rule on the Emergency Act when the
- 7:21Speaker 1: head of the Court already said during the convoy that
- 7:24Speaker 1: they were terrorists.
- 7:27Speaker 2: I don't know how you could possibly expect that not
- 7:30Speaker 2: to change the administration of justice on behalf of the
- 7:34Speaker 2: convoy participants. And I'm not a supporter of them at all,
- 7:38Speaker 2: but I don't like the overreach of Governess.
- 7:41Speaker 1: I think we can agree on the fact that, man,
- 7:44Speaker 1: what a mess have you ever seen? I mean, you know,
- 7:47Speaker 1: I don't know how old you are, but you've worked
- 7:49Speaker 1: in journalism, you owned a newspaper, you're a publisher, you're
- 7:52Speaker 1: a broadcaster. Can you remember any time like this, what's
- 7:56Speaker 1: happening from the economy, from protesting, from Trump to China? Sheese?
- 8:01Speaker 1: I don't, and I've been doing this a long time.
- 8:04Speaker 2: No, I can't remember something like this at all. I'm
- 8:07Speaker 2: thirty seven years old, so I've been paying attention to
- 8:09Speaker 2: things that I've been seeing that have been happening, and
- 8:11Speaker 2: petty history and political science. But you have to go
- 8:14Speaker 2: back a number of decades to get to anything that's
- 8:18Speaker 2: like this and what are we doing here in Canada? Though?
- 8:20Speaker 2: During this time, Mark Carney is spending most of his
- 8:23Speaker 2: time rubbing the Trudeau legacy off the walls like he's
- 8:26Speaker 2: a panic.
- 8:27Speaker 1: Heennant.
- 8:28Speaker 2: I'm surprised he's not wearing it makes Canada twenty fourteen again.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Hat that's fun, It's just it's silly. He's focused entirely
- 8:38Speaker 2: on policy reversals, carbon taxes, immigration targets, his Cabinate set
- 8:42Speaker 2: piece just months ago. At this rate, I wouldn't be
- 8:45Speaker 2: surprised if he wanted to recriminalize cannabis sometime soon. We
- 8:49Speaker 2: weren't able to plant two billion trees, we haven't been
- 8:52Speaker 2: able to get a gun back. What are we doing here?
- 8:57Speaker 1: Why? I called for an election right after the budget,
- 9:00Speaker 1: but nobody's listening to me. But that could still happen
- 9:02Speaker 1: this spring. You know, he does want a majority. And
- 9:05Speaker 1: then the Conservative Leadership Review is happening this weekend. So
- 9:11Speaker 1: if polyf wins, but his margin is really, really small.
- 9:14Speaker 1: I bet you he'll call an election, not just me,
- 9:16Speaker 1: though I hope he.
- 9:18Speaker 2: Does if that's the case, because we need to have
- 9:20Speaker 2: a mandate on what's actually going on right now at
- 9:23Speaker 2: this time. We have threats inside, we have threats outside,
- 9:27Speaker 2: and for us just to be withering trying to sign
- 9:30Speaker 2: trade deals with every smaller country that we can, We're
- 9:33Speaker 2: going to China and pissing off Trump right now when
- 9:36Speaker 2: he's threatening one hundred percent tariffs on us.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Hey, my friend, I'm glad you're up and taking fluids
- 9:41Speaker 1: and you're feeling better, and we'll do this again on
- 9:43Speaker 1: the Tuesday morning. How does that sound?
- 9:45Speaker 2: Sounds great? Thank you?
- 9:47Speaker 1: All right? There he goes John Ledgate, great voice. Love
- 9:50Speaker 1: his observations about everything.