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- 0:10Speaker 3: Here it is a Tuesday morning, June ninth, and it
- 0:14Speaker 3: is time for a tech segment today with Mike Dubuski,
- 0:18Speaker 3: ABC Tech Reporter. Mike, thanks as always for joining us.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, good morning.
- 0:26Speaker 3: Okay, I'm okay, I'm okay. Actually I'm terrible, but I
- 0:29Speaker 3: don't share it too many people, but I'll share it
- 0:31Speaker 3: with you. All right, a couple of things that are
- 0:34Speaker 3: going on I want to share. First of all, let's
- 0:36Speaker 3: move right into what you did in checking out a
- 0:39Speaker 3: new electric vehicle right there in New York where you live.
- 0:43Speaker 2: And it's not a car. Yeah, that's what is an EV?
- 0:46Speaker 2: What is an EV? It's not a car.
- 0:48Speaker 4: Yeah, we think of EV's and we think of cars, right,
- 0:50Speaker 4: but it's a vehicle. So I last week went out
- 0:53Speaker 4: to Sagharbor, New York, which is out on Long Island,
- 0:55Speaker 4: kind of a beach town, and I got a chance
- 0:57Speaker 4: to look at an ARC sport. This is an electric
- 1:00Speaker 4: boat and it comes from this company called ARC, which
- 1:03Speaker 4: was founded in twenty twenty one. One of the co
- 1:05Speaker 4: founders was an engineer over at SpaceX and they've been
- 1:08Speaker 4: making boats for a few years now. This is kind
- 1:11Speaker 4: of their latest creation. It is a wake boat that
- 1:14Speaker 4: is all electric. So a wakeboat, for those who don't know,
- 1:17Speaker 4: is a boat that creates a little wave behind it
- 1:19Speaker 4: that you can surf on, or water ski or inner tube.
- 1:23Speaker 4: My job is really tough, but you know, somebody's got
- 1:24Speaker 4: to do it. And of course it's an all electric
- 1:26Speaker 4: boat as well. It's got a big battery in the
- 1:29Speaker 4: rear the stern of the boat. The motor comes from
- 1:32Speaker 4: an electric semi truck and it's good for about five
- 1:34Speaker 4: hundred horsepower. We talk about how electric cars are very
- 1:38Speaker 4: quick off the line. They accelerate very fast because the
- 1:40Speaker 4: motors produce a lot of torque instantly. It's the same
- 1:43Speaker 4: deal out on the water with the ARC sport and
- 1:46Speaker 4: the demo that I did. The ARC representative hit the
- 1:48Speaker 4: gas at one point and I almost dropped my phone
- 1:50Speaker 4: in the water it was so quick. It's software limited
- 1:53Speaker 4: to forty miles an hour, and in terms of range
- 1:55Speaker 4: it's a little bit different because it's not exactly mileage
- 1:57Speaker 4: out on the water. But they say it's good for
- 1:59Speaker 4: about four to six hours of mixed use, so surfing,
- 2:02Speaker 4: speeding around, just hanging out on the water good, you know,
- 2:05Speaker 4: afternoon out of the lake or in the bay or
- 2:07Speaker 4: whatever it happens to be. That's kind of what they're
- 2:10Speaker 4: targeting this thing towards. And it charges just like an
- 2:14Speaker 4: electric car charges. It has a CCS plug, which is
- 2:17Speaker 4: popular among a variety of electric cars, so you can
- 2:19Speaker 4: charge it at a public charging station, if you have
- 2:21Speaker 4: it on a trailer, you can charge it at home.
- 2:23Speaker 4: And it is a luxury good. At the end of
- 2:25Speaker 4: the day, it's two hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars.
- 2:27Speaker 4: The one run goes all the way up to three
- 2:29Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars. Definitely on the high end of the
- 2:32Speaker 4: wake boats sort of market. But at the same time,
- 2:36Speaker 4: this company has sort of bigger designs. Right this is
- 2:39Speaker 4: where they're landing right now, but they are this summer
- 2:42Speaker 4: going to roll out some electric tug boats at the
- 2:44Speaker 4: Port of Los Angeles later this summer. They say, that's
- 2:47Speaker 4: kind of their bigger idea. They're kind of running the
- 2:50Speaker 4: Rivann or Tesla playbook, where Okay, they make luxury cars,
- 2:54Speaker 4: but they also have like electric semi trucks and electric
- 2:57Speaker 4: delivery vans, more sort of industrial apple locations where they
- 3:00Speaker 4: can really start to you know, foist some partnerships or
- 3:03Speaker 4: contracts or things like that. So that's kind of ARC's idea.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like a fairly big company already.
- 3:10Speaker 4: Yeah, it has some pretty significant investment too. Marc Andreesen
- 3:13Speaker 4: is one of the big investors behind this. Like they
- 3:15Speaker 4: have a lot of sort of like Silicon Valley VC
- 3:19Speaker 4: guys behind this, and seemingly they're doing pretty well.
- 3:22Speaker 3: Yeah. Is you know, a quarter of a million dollars
- 3:24Speaker 3: seems like a lot of money, but when you think
- 3:26Speaker 3: about a boat that has six state rooms on and
- 3:31Speaker 3: in it, you know, it's not so bad.
- 3:33Speaker 4: Big is a lot smaller. So their first boat was
- 3:37Speaker 4: called the ARC one, and that was more like what
- 3:39Speaker 4: you're talking about, a little bit more of like a
- 3:41Speaker 4: luxury cruiser sort of thing. This is much smaller. It's
- 3:44Speaker 4: twenty three feet long, so it's more of like a
- 3:47Speaker 4: little speedboat sort of thing. Has a ton of storage
- 3:50Speaker 4: for what it's worth, you know, it has you know,
- 3:52Speaker 4: all the sort of normal amenities that a boat would have.
- 3:54Speaker 4: Even has an infotainment screen that kind of looks like
- 3:56Speaker 4: Rivian's infotainment screen with like built in navigation and you know,
- 4:00Speaker 4: music and Bluetooth that can be pumped throughout the boat
- 4:03Speaker 4: and whatnot. There's no like below deck or anything like that,
- 4:05Speaker 4: but it's spacious once you're on board. It's just not
- 4:08Speaker 4: like a yacht by any stretch of the imagination.
- 4:10Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I was joking obviously, but the forty
- 4:14Speaker 3: miles per hour that it's monitored by or reduced by software, well,
- 4:18Speaker 3: first of all, forty miles per hour is really fast
- 4:21Speaker 3: on the water begins Oh yeah, I mean you're flying
- 4:24Speaker 3: at forty miles per hour, and if it has been
- 4:27Speaker 3: reduced to forty miles per hour, did you get any
- 4:30Speaker 3: information of how fast this thing can actually comfortably go.
- 4:33Speaker 4: Like unlimited meaning unclear at this point, like that that's
- 4:37Speaker 4: where they're sort of electronically limiting it to.
- 4:40Speaker 2: But yeah, that's right.
- 4:41Speaker 4: I mean, like forty miles an hours, like so fast
- 4:44Speaker 4: in a tiny little boat like that, but yeah, unclear.
- 4:48Speaker 4: I mean the thing with electric motors is that, like
- 4:49Speaker 4: they're very powerful and they have that sort of like
- 4:52Speaker 4: instant acceleration, so like they they are able to kind
- 4:56Speaker 4: of you know, basically modulate however much power that you
- 4:59Speaker 4: want to put in there, and you know, in boating
- 5:01Speaker 4: culture and marine culture, like there's a lot of modification
- 5:04Speaker 4: that goes into it, so you can probably you know,
- 5:07Speaker 4: in the back end, you know, maybe swap out the
- 5:09Speaker 4: motor for a more powerful one if you so choose.
- 5:11Speaker 4: But like, I don't know, I was, as a person
- 5:13Speaker 4: who's not like on boats super frequently, like this was
- 5:16Speaker 4: more than fast.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Enough for me as we were just tooling around.
- 5:19Speaker 3: Everybody who has an EV, anybody who was an EV anything,
- 5:22Speaker 3: I happen to have an EV car, and you know,
- 5:25Speaker 3: I step I step on the gas pedal actually in
- 5:28Speaker 3: this case, the electric vehicle pedal. It's yeah, it's you're
- 5:34Speaker 3: basically starting. It's zero to what what half a mile
- 5:40Speaker 3: per second?
- 5:40Speaker 2: How do they work that?
- 5:41Speaker 3: But yes, zero whatever it is, y Yeah, zero to
- 5:44Speaker 3: sixty and under a second or whatever the hell it is.
- 5:47Speaker 3: I mean, obviously that's you know, risiculally fast, but it's man,
- 5:50Speaker 3: it flies and you get shoved back in your seat.
- 5:54Speaker 3: When you talked about this company and you were saying
- 5:57Speaker 3: how extensive it's line was between trucks and they're coming
- 6:02Speaker 3: out with a tugboat, et cetera. I have not heard
- 6:04Speaker 3: of this company before, and you would think that I
- 6:07Speaker 3: have heard about it.
- 6:08Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean to be clear though, they're just
- 6:11Speaker 4: in boats. They they I was giving the example of
- 6:13Speaker 4: like Tesla makes like a semi truck, you know, in
- 6:16Speaker 4: the same way arc is making these like kind of
- 6:18Speaker 4: luxury boats. But they're also trying to get into like
- 6:21Speaker 4: more industrial applications like tugboats. They also say they have
- 6:24Speaker 4: like a party boat coming later. That's kind of their
- 6:26Speaker 4: next you know, iteration of this platform is like something
- 6:30Speaker 4: that's not as fast, it's not really meant for like
- 6:32Speaker 4: water sports or anything like that. Basically just kind of
- 6:34Speaker 4: like hanging out on a lake. So they have these
- 6:36Speaker 4: kind of big designs and again, as we said, some
- 6:38Speaker 4: some pretty big investment behind them as well.
- 6:41Speaker 3: Okay, Apple, well no, let's start with AI, the AI
- 6:45Speaker 3: improvements that we're seeing, which we are by the day.
- 6:48Speaker 2: So what's the latest.
- 6:49Speaker 4: Yeah, So this week is Apple's WWDC conference. This is
- 6:53Speaker 4: their annual developer conference. It's where they invite all the
- 6:56Speaker 4: people who make apps for various Apple platforms to their
- 6:59Speaker 4: headquarters at Apple Park and they show off what the
- 7:01Speaker 4: next generation of all their software is going to look like,
- 7:03Speaker 4: So the next generation Apple software, meaning for the iPhone,
- 7:07Speaker 4: the iPad, the Mac, all that stuff is you know,
- 7:10Speaker 4: on full display this week and kind of the big
- 7:13Speaker 4: news at least the big change that Apple led with
- 7:15Speaker 4: yesterday was Siri. So Siri is their voice assistant. It's
- 7:19Speaker 4: the thing that's baked into your phone. It's designed to
- 7:21Speaker 4: kind of be this like virtual assistant thing often is
- 7:25Speaker 4: thought of as kind of lackluster, right, kind of falls
- 7:27Speaker 4: behind in terms of capability to like a Google Assistant
- 7:31Speaker 4: or an Amazon Alexa or something like that, just you know,
- 7:35Speaker 4: has the reputation of just not having that level of capability. Well,
- 7:38Speaker 4: two years ago, Apple made some big promises with regards
- 7:41Speaker 4: to Siri. They say they were going to basically redo
- 7:43Speaker 4: it from the ground up. They were going to infuse
- 7:45Speaker 4: it with a lot of artificial intelligence that was going
- 7:47Speaker 4: to give it a whole lot more capability, And they
- 7:50Speaker 4: had this big, flashy marketing campaign with Bella Ramsey from
- 7:53Speaker 4: Game of Thrones. And in the two years since then,
- 7:56Speaker 4: almost none of that has made it into the real world.
- 7:59Speaker 4: A lot of those features didn't ship, there were delays,
- 8:02Speaker 4: there was a lot of internal strife at Apple, including
- 8:04Speaker 4: some corporate reorganizing, and recently the company agreed to pay
- 8:08Speaker 4: a two hundred and fifty million dollar class action settlement
- 8:12Speaker 4: in a lawsuit that had accused the company of misleading
- 8:14Speaker 4: consumers over its Ai products. So that brings us to
- 8:17Speaker 4: this week, where the pressure was pretty high for Apple
- 8:20Speaker 4: to do something about Siri. They are once again refreshing Siri.
- 8:24Speaker 4: They say, this comes with the help of Google, who
- 8:26Speaker 4: they're kind of borrowing some artificial intelligence technology from. Siri
- 8:30Speaker 4: now gets its own dedicated app. It has a new design.
- 8:33Speaker 4: It's going to look a little bit more like a
- 8:34Speaker 4: notification that pops up at the top of your screen,
- 8:37Speaker 4: and at its core it's a large language model now,
- 8:39Speaker 4: so you're going to have these sort of long form
- 8:41Speaker 4: conversations with it in the same way that you chat
- 8:44Speaker 4: back and forth with chat GPT. Now it's going to
- 8:46Speaker 4: be applied in sort of like the serie application. In
- 8:50Speaker 4: terms of what you can do with that, well, a
- 8:51Speaker 4: whole variety of things, says Apple. You can take a
- 8:54Speaker 4: picture of a poster for a concert and have the
- 8:56Speaker 4: dates for that concert be automatically added to your to
- 9:00Speaker 4: your calendar. It will even set a reminder for when
- 9:03Speaker 4: those tickets go on sale. You can be scrolling Instagram
- 9:06Speaker 4: and ask Siri what you're looking at, like where a
- 9:08Speaker 4: photo was taken. For example, there's a lot of applications
- 9:11Speaker 4: in the photos app where you can reframe things and
- 9:15Speaker 4: make it look like a photo was taken from a
- 9:16Speaker 4: different angle than it actually was in reality, all using
- 9:20Speaker 4: artificial intelligence and this Siri application. You can even take
- 9:24Speaker 4: a picture of the bill at a restaurant and then
- 9:26Speaker 4: Siri will split that bill between However, many people are paying,
- 9:30Speaker 4: so they're making some big promises. It's just in the
- 9:32Speaker 4: hands of developers right now, but they say this is
- 9:34Speaker 4: going to roll out more broadly and it's kind of
- 9:36Speaker 4: final form in the fall, alongside the new iPhones.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Okay, and do you believe that everything they say is
- 9:42Speaker 3: going to come to fruition.
- 9:43Speaker 4: I think it's a lot closer to reality than it
- 9:46Speaker 4: was two years ago. So we got to talk about
- 9:48Speaker 4: kind of apples artificial intelligence efforts in that respect, because
- 9:52Speaker 4: they have, similar to Siri, been criticized for kind of
- 9:55Speaker 4: falling behind in the AI race. Right they pull the
- 9:58Speaker 4: wraps off this artificial intelli and stuff two years ago.
- 10:01Speaker 4: Even then it was kind of late. That was two
- 10:03Speaker 4: years after the launch of chat GPT, after you know,
- 10:06Speaker 4: Google and Amazon and Samsung and others all had announced
- 10:10Speaker 4: similar sort of AI efforts. Apple largely weighted on the sidelines,
- 10:14Speaker 4: so you know, they have this kind of impetus to
- 10:17Speaker 4: bring AI to the market in some capacity. But at
- 10:20Speaker 4: the same time, AI is still a pretty imperfect technology, right.
- 10:23Speaker 4: It makes mistakes, It hallucinates all the time. You can
- 10:26Speaker 4: imagine internally at Apple that there's some concern that that
- 10:29Speaker 4: would do damage to their multi trillion dollar brand if
- 10:31Speaker 4: suddenly your iPhone was telling you incorrect information, So they
- 10:35Speaker 4: kind of slow rolled this. Now they have this partnership
- 10:37Speaker 4: with Google. Right, so Google has been in the AI
- 10:40Speaker 4: game for longer than anybody else. They have predated you know,
- 10:43Speaker 4: Open AI and chat GPT and all this stuff. They've
- 10:45Speaker 4: been working on this technology for a long long time.
- 10:48Speaker 4: They with this integration now from Apple's perspective, can kind
- 10:52Speaker 4: of have it both ways because they can say, hey,
- 10:54Speaker 4: we have all this AI technology available to you. You
- 10:58Speaker 4: can use it if you like, but if it goes wrong,
- 11:00Speaker 4: they can also just blame Google. Right, they can say that, like, okay,
- 11:03Speaker 4: that was lackluster on Google's part, and that kind of
- 11:06Speaker 4: is an interesting, you know, position for them to find
- 11:09Speaker 4: themselves in. Will all this make it to market? I
- 11:12Speaker 4: think so. I don't think that any of the stuff
- 11:14Speaker 4: that they announced yesterday was particularly mind blowing, in large
- 11:18Speaker 4: part because we've already seen it on Google phones before
- 11:21Speaker 4: and on Samsung phones, which of course we're on Google technology.
- 11:23Speaker 4: So you know, I think this is real. I think
- 11:27Speaker 4: whether it is actually a game changer, whether this will
- 11:29Speaker 4: actually get people to like, actually go out and buy
- 11:31Speaker 4: new iPhones just because of the new AI stuff, I
- 11:34Speaker 4: think that's a much bigger question. Mark.
- 11:36Speaker 3: I noticed that, and I use Siri a lot, almost exclusively,
- 11:40Speaker 3: and I notice now that Siri comes back when I'll
- 11:44Speaker 3: ask a question, do you want to use chat GPT? Yeah,
- 11:49Speaker 3: it asks that question of me, which never happened before.
- 11:53Speaker 3: Now I don't get that much more from chat GPT
- 11:57Speaker 3: than I get from Siri.
- 11:59Speaker 2: And so is this the start of.
- 12:01Speaker 1: All of that?
- 12:03Speaker 4: Well sort of. So that was actually part of the
- 12:05Speaker 4: original twenty twenty four announcement when Apple announced this sort
- 12:10Speaker 4: of integration with chat GPT. If Siri couldn't answer a question,
- 12:14Speaker 4: it would kick some of those questions that it couldn't
- 12:16Speaker 4: answer over to chat GPT to see if it could
- 12:18Speaker 4: get you an answer that way. So yeah, they have
- 12:21Speaker 4: started sort of integrating that. It's kind of unclear where
- 12:24Speaker 4: that partnership is going now, especially since they've you know,
- 12:27Speaker 4: announced this other partnership with open a Eyes competitor Google.
- 12:31Speaker 4: But yeah, that's part of that other piece of this.
- 12:34Speaker 4: I think that you get at an interesting point there,
- 12:37Speaker 4: which is what is actually the value added by integrating
- 12:40Speaker 4: all this artificial intelligence stuff. Apple will say it's a
- 12:43Speaker 4: lot easier now you can kind of get to what
- 12:45Speaker 4: you're trying to get to in a more simple and
- 12:48Speaker 4: comprehensive way. For example, one you know situation that they
- 12:52Speaker 4: demonstrated was, oh, you know, you can ask Siri to
- 12:56Speaker 4: go like surface an address that was texted to you
- 12:59Speaker 4: like months ago. Instead of having to go find that
- 13:01Speaker 4: address yourself, you can just say, hey, I know Larry
- 13:03Speaker 4: texted me is addressed. Can you just go like find
- 13:05Speaker 4: that for me? And it will go do that. Like
- 13:07Speaker 4: that's convenient in handy? Is that enough to like go
- 13:10Speaker 4: buy a new phone?
- 13:10Speaker 3: Like?
- 13:11Speaker 4: I don't know, Like I think that there's still some
- 13:13Speaker 4: skepticism around exactly the utility of all this and whether
- 13:17Speaker 4: it's actually going to bring people out to stores. That's
- 13:20Speaker 4: you know, just the state of the smartphone market right now.
- 13:22Speaker 4: Smartphones are pretty good and people hold on to them
- 13:24Speaker 4: for a while.
- 13:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure the fact that they're now thirteen hundred
- 13:28Speaker 3: dollars apiece as artament as much to do with it. Yeah,
- 13:31Speaker 3: they've gone absolutely crazy. All right, Mike, thank you as always,
- 13:37Speaker 3: it's always some great information.
- 13:38Speaker 2: And have a good one.
- 13:39Speaker 4: Sounds good, Take care all right.
- 13:41Speaker 3: Now, I want to talk a little bit about another
- 13:44Speaker 3: aspect of AI, because how can you not do a
- 13:46Speaker 3: show these days without talking about AI or even President Trump.
- 13:53Speaker 3: Put those two together and you've got a topic that
- 13:55Speaker 3: we're jumping on very easily. And this has to do
- 13:58Speaker 3: with AI being used in medicine now. Already AI is
- 14:02Speaker 3: being used in medicine for sure. When you talk about
- 14:05Speaker 3: for example, you go to a WebMD, right, which is
- 14:08Speaker 3: now going to become much more sophisticated with AI, and
- 14:11Speaker 3: that you get information about whatever ailment you have. You
- 14:15Speaker 3: have the Internet being used more and more in terms
- 14:19Speaker 3: of telemedicine, and so it's sort of working us easing
- 14:24Speaker 3: its way into medicine in general.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Here is where the line is being drawn.
- 14:30Speaker 3: And this is where there are really two sides of
- 14:33Speaker 3: the coin on this, and both have a legitimate view,
- 14:37Speaker 3: and I don't know which side I'm on on this one.
- 14:41Speaker 3: And that is using AI to prescribe medication, to diagnose
- 14:47Speaker 3: you without a doctor involved at all. The AI program,
- 14:54Speaker 3: the algorithm itself, is doing the diagnosis and then saying,
- 14:59Speaker 3: here's the medication you need or is hear what you
- 15:02Speaker 3: should do now? They have yet to figure out how
- 15:04Speaker 3: AI does surgery. I think you need a real doctor
- 15:07Speaker 3: for that one. But at the same time, it would
- 15:11Speaker 3: take well intern this for example, it would virtually make
- 15:15Speaker 3: interness disappear, make them irrelevant because the interness tries to
- 15:21Speaker 3: figure out what's wrong with you and asks you various
- 15:25Speaker 3: questions and then does an examination. But what kind of
- 15:29Speaker 3: an examination? Blood stethoscope can listen to your heartbeat, to
- 15:34Speaker 3: hear how you breathe? All that can be done now
- 15:38Speaker 3: virtually it could all be done at distance and so
- 15:42Speaker 3: and so. Therefore the AI comes in, The program comes
- 15:44Speaker 3: in and says, here's what's wrong with you, and here's
- 15:46Speaker 3: what you should do about it. Doctors are fighting this
- 15:49Speaker 3: like crazy. Of course they're fighting it. Like crazy. I
- 15:53Speaker 3: don't know if you've ever gone to a doctor's office
- 15:55Speaker 3: and had a PA, a physician's assistant help you out.
- 15:58Speaker 2: I did that.
- 15:59Speaker 3: I fell down a little while ago, and I got
- 16:04Speaker 3: a nice cut, and I went to urgent carer and
- 16:08Speaker 3: I didn't see a doctor. It was a physician's assistant,
- 16:12Speaker 3: and I was personically fine with it. Do you know
- 16:15Speaker 3: when the concept the pas came out? When they became
- 16:18Speaker 3: legalized here in California, the medical profession, the doctors fought
- 16:23Speaker 3: it like crazy, You're not going to get good You're
- 16:27Speaker 3: not going to get a good, good treatment. You need
- 16:29Speaker 3: real doctors, you need the professional help. Well, guess what
- 16:33Speaker 3: you know. Pas do a lot. Nurse practitioners can do
- 16:36Speaker 3: a lot. You don't need a doctor to do a
- 16:39Speaker 3: lot of things. And this is the argument that's being
- 16:41Speaker 3: used with the proponents of AI medicine, way beyond just
- 16:47Speaker 3: researching AI medicine, and the Trump administration is going balls
- 16:52Speaker 3: to the wall on this. This is simply part of
- 16:57Speaker 3: their position on technology and they think this is the
- 17:00Speaker 3: way of the future, and it's doing something about it too,
- 17:03Speaker 3: I mean putting money into research. Grants are being given
- 17:07Speaker 3: in terms of AI and its approaches to medicine, and
- 17:11Speaker 3: the line is going to be drawn because where does
- 17:14Speaker 3: AI stop? And you need a doctor to get involved.
- 17:19Speaker 3: Surgery is easy, but how about diagnosing. There's a story
- 17:23Speaker 3: out of the Washington Post about this woman, Amy Gleeson,
- 17:26Speaker 3: who is now the leader of the US DOJE service.
- 17:30Speaker 3: She took it over from Elon Musk, and she is
- 17:35Speaker 3: tasked to bringing AI into the healthcare system by the
- 17:39Speaker 3: Trump administration. Her daughter spent about a decade battling in
- 17:44Speaker 3: autoimmune disorder, and after ten years, she uploaded sixteen years
- 17:51Speaker 3: of medical records.
- 17:53Speaker 2: Into chat GPT.
- 17:55Speaker 3: The machine reported that she was suffering from a different
- 17:59Speaker 3: AI ailment and it was differently diagnosed, and she got
- 18:04Speaker 3: into a clinical trial, which is happening right now. AI
- 18:09Speaker 3: did all of it and the doctors blew it. Now
- 18:14Speaker 3: do we trust AI? You know, in many cases I
- 18:17Speaker 3: would trust a well written algorithm over what a doctor.
- 18:22Speaker 3: I'm willing to bet by the time it's all said
- 18:24Speaker 3: and done, doctors are going to make more mistakes than
- 18:27Speaker 3: the AI programs. You know, people bitch and moan about
- 18:31Speaker 3: self driving cars. Oh my god, they're so dangerous, they're
- 18:35Speaker 3: so terrible. Well after hundreds of millions of miles that
- 18:39Speaker 3: have been driven and tested, and all of these various
- 18:42Speaker 3: cars weigh mo et cetera. Turns out that sitting in
- 18:46Speaker 3: one of those cars is infinitely safer than sitting in
- 18:51Speaker 3: a car that you drive. Those cars don't get drunk,
- 18:55Speaker 3: those cars don't get sleepy. Those cars pay attention every
- 19:02Speaker 3: moment of every second of driving. Pilots, you ask a
- 19:09Speaker 3: pilot where, for example, let's say fog comes in. And
- 19:14Speaker 3: I've talked to pilots about this before, and I said, well,
- 19:19Speaker 3: sometimes you don't know where you're at the fog comes in,
- 19:22Speaker 3: and do you just figure out you goes? Always trust
- 19:24Speaker 3: the instruments. Always trust the instruments. It doesn't matter what
- 19:30Speaker 3: you think you're looking at, it doesn't matter what's outside
- 19:33Speaker 3: the window. If you are confused, look down, Trust the instruments.
- 19:39Speaker 3: Trust the technology far more than what a human being
- 19:42Speaker 3: can do. And I think that's where it's going in
- 19:46Speaker 3: the world of AI medicine. How far it goes, I
- 19:49Speaker 3: don't know. Prescribing medication, will putting in symptoms, maybe having
- 19:55Speaker 3: a blood test, maybe having an examination on your iPad.
- 20:02Speaker 3: I have done medical exams on my iPad. We were
- 20:07Speaker 3: having in a situation right now, I have a protologist
- 20:10Speaker 3: that I'm working with and it's a little uncomfortable with
- 20:14Speaker 3: the iPad. We don't quite know what to do with
- 20:17Speaker 3: the iPad and the examination. So at this point I
- 20:20Speaker 3: still have to go into the office. But the bottom
- 20:23Speaker 3: line is all the kidding aside except I wasn't kidding.
- 20:27Speaker 3: Is that AI I think is the way of the future.
- 20:30Speaker 3: And you're going to see some real medical advances where
- 20:34Speaker 3: the diagnosis is going to be done by the algorithm.
- 20:38Speaker 3: And you bet the doctors are going to fight this
- 20:41Speaker 3: like crazy for political purposes. They're going to say, oh,
- 20:45Speaker 3: it's a question of safety, it's a question.
- 20:47Speaker 2: No it's not. No, it's not.
- 20:49Speaker 3: If it was a question of safety, the doctors will
- 20:51Speaker 3: be jumping up and down and saying, Okay, let's test it.
- 20:53Speaker 3: Let's do some random testing. Let's see how what the
- 20:56Speaker 3: efficacy is. No, No, it's horrible, it's terrible. It's going
- 21:00Speaker 3: to ruin your life. It's going to kill you, and
- 21:02Speaker 3: you will never get that iPad where you wanted to go.
- 21:06Speaker 3: In terms of the examination. We are done. All right,
- 21:08Speaker 3: You've got fire insurance, assuming you still have a policy
- 21:12Speaker 3: where fire insurance is there, and the limits are let's say,
- 21:17Speaker 3: a deductible of five percent in terms of replacing your home,
- 21:23Speaker 3: or a certain figure two hundred thousand dollars deductible one
- 21:26Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars deductible for fire. Well, if you go
- 21:31Speaker 3: into your policy, here's what's happening more and more, and
- 21:35Speaker 3: this is what the insurance companies are doing, is adding
- 21:39Speaker 3: a separate deductible for wildfire. Wait a minute, does that
- 21:45Speaker 3: mean I have my deductible X dollars for fire?
- 21:49Speaker 2: Yep?
- 21:50Speaker 3: Does that mean for wild fires there is another and
- 21:53Speaker 3: even bigger deductible. Yeah, but wait a minute, you can't
- 21:58Speaker 3: do that. A fire's a fire, right, I mean, it
- 22:02Speaker 3: doesn't matter. You know what kind of fire burns my
- 22:05Speaker 3: house down, it's going to be covered.
- 22:07Speaker 2: By my fire insurance.
- 22:10Speaker 3: Well, the insurancer companies are saying, yeah, not if it's
- 22:13Speaker 3: a wildfire. If it's a wildfire, we're kicking up the deductible.
- 22:19Speaker 3: And frankly, it's what it means, of course, is your
- 22:22Speaker 3: insurance is getting much more expensive now. The insurance companies
- 22:26Speaker 3: just come back say, yeah, we have a wildfire deductible,
- 22:30Speaker 3: but it just helps keep our policies at a reasonable
- 22:33Speaker 3: price where people can opt in or opt out. I
- 22:36Speaker 3: think the argument is like insurance for earthquake insurance, but
- 22:40Speaker 3: it's a totally different animal. I mean, an earthquake is
- 22:43Speaker 3: an earthquake. It can't discern between different kinds of earthquakes.
- 22:47Speaker 3: It's an earthquake. With fires, they can and they do.
- 22:52Speaker 3: Wildfires are different than the fires that normally burn down houses,
- 22:56Speaker 3: our Senate, etc.
- 22:57Speaker 2: Because they're wildfires. And now we've.
- 23:01Speaker 3: Got lawsuits that are flying all over the place arguing, hey,
- 23:06Speaker 3: a fire's the fire and you're supposed to cover fires.
- 23:13Speaker 3: Now is it a wildfire because it has been determined
- 23:17Speaker 3: to be a wildfire.
- 23:18Speaker 2: I don't even know if.
- 23:19Speaker 3: There's an official designation for wildfire forest fires that used
- 23:24Speaker 3: to be called I don't know who makes that decision.
- 23:29Speaker 3: I mean, certainly we're told about it. The news is
- 23:31Speaker 3: saying it's a wildfire. So anyway, this lawsuit is going
- 23:34Speaker 3: to fly all over the place. So we'll see what happens.
- 23:36Speaker 3: And yep, I'm going to look at my policy. And
- 23:38Speaker 3: the problem is if you look at the minutia of
- 23:40Speaker 3: a policy, oh man, you know pages and you need
- 23:43Speaker 3: a magnifying glass to read them, and you should have
- 23:47Speaker 3: some legal background, because, as you know, I have vast,
- 23:51Speaker 3: vast knowledge of the law. I am one of the
- 23:54Speaker 3: most well regarded lawyers out there with a deep understanding
- 23:58Speaker 3: of the law. And even I have trouble reading insurance policies.
- 24:05Speaker 3: Actually I have trouble reading my address on the insurance policy.
- 24:09Speaker 3: But you know that's between you and me and the
- 24:12Speaker 3: insurance company.
- 24:13Speaker 2: All right, guys, we're done. We are done.
- 24:16Speaker 3: Tomorrow we start all over again. Amy is not here,
- 24:19Speaker 3: and Heather Brooker is. Will is always here. Of course,
- 24:23Speaker 3: Ann is not here until next week, producer, and so
- 24:26Speaker 3: Michelle is filling in. And Cono of course is always here,
- 24:32Speaker 3: no matter what he says or does, or no matter
- 24:34Speaker 3: how much he bekes.
- 24:35Speaker 1: Will.
- 24:36Speaker 3: I did mention you didn't I okay, I did, all right,
- 24:38Speaker 3: So you did? Yeah, I know, I just like I
- 24:41Speaker 3: forget instantly. That goes to show you how important Will
- 24:45Speaker 3: is in my life. I mentioned him thirty seconds ago,
- 24:48Speaker 3: and I completely forgot then, I exactly very well, said
- 24:54Speaker 3: Gary and Shannon are up next.
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