Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Building a Disciplined AI Strategy for Health Systems with Drew Smith
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- 0:00- Hello, and welcome to the Becker's Healthcare Podcast.
- 0:02- My name is Chanel Banger and I'm recording
- 0:04- live at the Becker's eleventh annual Health IT
- 0:08- plus Digital Health and RCM conference in Chicago.
- 0:11- Thrilled to speak with Drew Smith, the chief
- 0:13- data and AI officer at ChristianaCare,
- 0:17- who joins us today to
- 0:19- discuss his background, trends he's keeping an eye
- 0:21- on it, and a bit more. Drew, thank
- 0:23- you so much for joining me today. Well,
- 0:25- thank you for having me. Perfect. Well, to
- 0:26- get us started out, can you introduce yourself
- 0:29- and tell us a bit about your background?
- 0:31- Sure. So my name is Drew. I I
- 0:33- work at ChristianaCare
- 0:34- as the chief data and AI officer, which
- 0:36- you already said. My background is actually a
- 0:38- little bit in health care, but a whole
- 0:39- lot in other industries, but always running large
- 0:42- analytic shops.
- 0:44- Doing predictive analytics as early as 2008 with
- 0:47- a retailer called IKEA, which is a Swedish
- 0:48- furniture company. Worked in, Little Caesars and Village
- 0:51- Holdings, which is the pizza company plus some
- 0:53- others. Did some consulting that I didn't particularly
- 0:55- like.
- 0:56- I had a great stint at OhioHealth, and
- 0:58- now I work at ChristianaCare, which is a
- 1:00- a system,
- 1:01- with a very strong presence in Delaware, New
- 1:03- Jersey, Maryland, and Southeast Pennsylvania.
- 1:06- Perfect. And now that we have a sense
- 1:07- of your background,
- 1:09- could you give us a quick state of
- 1:10- the union? What has gone well this year,
- 1:12- and what are you focused on for the
- 1:13- rest of 2026?
- 1:14- Yeah. So we we have a big event
- 1:16- coming on October 3. We're going live with
- 1:18- Epic. So we are in an Epic conversion.
- 1:19- So that does take a lot of energy,
- 1:21- which is, a very good thing.
- 1:23- But it does mean that we're sort of
- 1:24- very much in a planning mode.
- 1:26- So in particular with AI, we need to
- 1:28- build up the processes by which we're actually
- 1:30- selecting the right,
- 1:31- thing to work on and working on it
- 1:33- in the right way. And I call that
- 1:34- focus, rigor, and discipline. So focus in on
- 1:37- the things that are really important to your
- 1:39- organization, to your caregivers, to your patients.
- 1:42- The rigor part comes in, deliver those AI
- 1:45- models, whether they're native of Epic, home built,
- 1:47- or another third party,
- 1:49- with a really defined,
- 1:51- process that you can follow and refine as
- 1:53- you go. And discipline is focused on the
- 1:55- value identified in the first place and continue
- 1:57- to focus on the value identified in the
- 1:59- first place until you achieve that value. Or
- 2:01- you don't achieve that value, so be it.
- 2:03- Then you have to have the courage to
- 2:04- sort of walk away from something that's not
- 2:06- doing the thing that you thought it would
- 2:08- do. Got it. Got it. And so now
- 2:09- that we know what you're focused on, what
- 2:11- are the biggest headwinds that you're keeping an
- 2:13- eye on and preparing for?
- 2:15- Yeah. I think right now,
- 2:17- it's the volume of potential opportunities that we
- 2:20- have. Right? So a lot of folks who
- 2:21- are probably up at UGM or even if
- 2:23- you're another,
- 2:25- EMR or you're seeing so much news coming
- 2:27- today about the AI, it's it's actually the
- 2:30- the volume of things coming at you,
- 2:32- can make it difficult for the organization to
- 2:34- focus because everybody across the organization has the
- 2:37- potential to leverage AI.
- 2:39- But some of those potentials are much greater
- 2:41- than others. Some are more risky than others.
- 2:43- And so
- 2:44- it's difficult when you have so much stuff
- 2:46- coming at you to to find a way
- 2:48- to prioritize and focus.
- 2:50- Got it. And I guess you already talked
- 2:51- about going live with Epic. But in that
- 2:54- same vein, what is your best opportunity for
- 2:57- growth in the next two to three years?
- 2:59- Sure. As a system, we are a growth
- 3:01- focused system, and we are increasing our presence
- 3:03- in areas that we don't have a traditionally
- 3:04- strong presence in. And we're doing that with
- 3:07- actually smaller,
- 3:08- sort of, like, mini hospitals. They aren't really
- 3:10- any any place you would have an overnight
- 3:12- stay in, but they're a great place for
- 3:13- people to get care that's above what you
- 3:15- might get in urgent care, above what you
- 3:17- would get at a primary care, but below
- 3:19- what you would need to go to, say,
- 3:20- a level one trauma center. And that's valuable
- 3:23- because we can put those closer to people
- 3:24- where they need them, and we can also
- 3:26- reserve that capacity for, those really truly,
- 3:29- needing emergent cases that come into the to
- 3:32- the big level one trauma center. That's sort
- 3:34- of on the growth side how we can,
- 3:36- actually offer more, care to more people,
- 3:39- throughout Delaware and Southeastern Pennsylvania.
- 3:42- Got it. And as somebody who has led
- 3:44- up so many different types of organizations
- 3:46- outside of health care and in health care
- 3:49- as well, I'm
- 3:50- curious to know your perspective on this question.
- 3:52- Who do you admire as a leader from
- 3:54- any industry and why?
- 3:56- Oh, that's a big one.
- 3:58- I... Yeah. I I am always cautious to
- 4:00- get too enamored with a given leader because
- 4:03- I think we tend to, at least in
- 4:04- The States, have sort of a cult of
- 4:06- an individual. Like, we, you know, we worship
- 4:08- Steve Jobs or we worship somebody like that,
- 4:10- but it really takes a team to build
- 4:12- something.
- 4:14- And so that's a really tough one for
- 4:15- me because I I just don't think in
- 4:17- that way.
- 4:18- I do appreciate people who are trying to
- 4:21- do different things,
- 4:23- to to solve problems.
- 4:26- So whether it's people who are running, you
- 4:27- know, foundations that are continuing to work on,
- 4:31- things that persist in this planet that shouldn't,
- 4:33- you know, malaria, for example, stuff like that.
- 4:35- So I think there's a lot of great
- 4:37- organizations out there that continue to push against
- 4:40- things that people say can't be done, and
- 4:41- I admire those people. I love that answer.
- 4:44- Well, Drew, I've enjoyed our time today. But
- 4:46- before I let you go, is there anything
- 4:47- else that listeners should know?
- 4:49- Yeah. No. I I do think... One of
- 4:51- the things I I I talk to our
- 4:53- executives about and anyone who is in health
- 4:55- care is you you do have to pay
- 4:57- as much attention as you think you're paying
- 4:58- to AI, but you gotta go a little
- 5:00- bit deeper. So you could see the news
- 5:02- and the re... You know, Darya... Darya Mide
- 5:04- talking about, you know, putting a pause on,
- 5:06- and do people really know why that is?
- 5:07- I think it's such a big thing.
- 5:09- It does require everybody in a leadership role
- 5:11- to kinda dig in and learn a little
- 5:13- bit more about what's going on,
- 5:15- and not just take at face value maybe
- 5:16- what they're seeing in the quick headlines.
- 5:18- Well, that's a great note. And, Andrew, I
- 5:20- wanna thank you once again for your time
- 5:21- today and for sharing your insights on the
- 5:23- Becker's Healthcare podcast. Thank you so much. Thanks,
- 5:25- Janelle.