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Minister Paul Kirby says the NT Government is happy to work with police on "any lever that needs to be pulled" to stop antisocial behaviour...including public drinking · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: And we know that in some good news, Territorians have
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  Speaker 1: spent over six million dollars at local retail and hospitality
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  Speaker 1: venues over the past three months with the return of
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  Speaker 1: the My Territory voucher scheme. Now joining me on the
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  Speaker 1: line to tell us a little bit more about this
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  Speaker 1: is the Minister for Small Business, Paul Kirby.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to.
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  Speaker 3: You, Good morning Katie.
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  Speaker 1: How are you going very well, Minister? These vouchers they
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  Speaker 1: have been very popular. I know that we had them
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  Speaker 1: for the City of Darwin, City of Palmerston, Alice Springs,
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  Speaker 1: Catherine Litchfield.
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  Speaker 2: How did they go.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they've gone really really well the last few months
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  Speaker 3: in the Darwin area. We had over three million dollars
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  Speaker 3: of economic stimulus from it, and across the territory we've
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  Speaker 3: had closer to six million dollars in retail and hospitality outlets.
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  Speaker 3: So it's been taken up really really well. The Darwin
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  Speaker 3: vouchers have been completely exhausted. But yeah, as you said, Pamei, Alice,
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  Speaker 3: Catherine's Field, the Barkley, we still want people to lean
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  Speaker 3: into them to make sure that they do take them up.
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  Speaker 3: We know that there was about twenty four thousand participants
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  Speaker 3: so far. So people do enjoy and you get a
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  Speaker 3: little bit extra. It helps the retailers and the hospitow outlets.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, we'd really encourage people who were to download
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  Speaker 3: them to get on board and use those vouchers as
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  Speaker 3: much as they can.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, So obviously Darwin's been exhausted, but for some
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  Speaker 1: of those other locations there is still the opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: use those vouchers if you haven't already.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly there's still opportunity for people everywhere outside of
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  Speaker 3: Darwin to get on board, and we know that it
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  Speaker 3: really helps people. We know the it's some long weekends
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  Speaker 3: that we've just had another one coming up, so there'll
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  Speaker 3: be people out and about where they encourage people if
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  Speaker 3: they are out and about in those other areas where
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  Speaker 3: to use those vouchers to help out to where to
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  Speaker 3: stretch those dollars just that little bit further. And we're
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  Speaker 3: more than happy as a government to be able to
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  Speaker 3: kick into that and.
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  Speaker 2: Help out the minister.
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  Speaker 1: There has been a lot sort of ticking along when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to small business in the territory. I know
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  Speaker 1: that right now there is some real issues when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to staff shortages for a lot of our businesses
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  Speaker 1: up here in the top end. I'm assuming it's the
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  Speaker 1: same in the likes of Central Australia as well, but
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  Speaker 1: particularly you know when you go around the city there
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  Speaker 1: does seem to be some staff shortages. What work is
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  Speaker 1: underway at the moment on both the territory level but
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  Speaker 1: also on the federal level to try and fill some
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  Speaker 1: of these gaps that we've.
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  Speaker 3: Got, Oh look a mountain of work and I'm more
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  Speaker 3: than happy to come back on at any stage and
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  Speaker 3: run you through it. From a federal level, working with
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  Speaker 3: the designated area migration agreements and increasing the amount of
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  Speaker 3: people that we can bring in both on those agreements
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  Speaker 3: and the general skilled worker agreements for our priorities. Absolutely
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  Speaker 3: training as many territorians as we can. We're training now
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  Speaker 3: people in to be cabin cruise staff, something that's never
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  Speaker 3: happened in the territory before. We went out and saw
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  Speaker 3: thirty odd people that have been put through that. There's
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  Speaker 3: another a dozen or fifteen going through it in the
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  Speaker 3: next few weeks. But from the ground up, we're training
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  Speaker 3: more territories than we ever have before. We know that
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  Speaker 3: the freeing up of the closed contacts will mean not quite.
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  Speaker 3: So many people have to stay home at different times,
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  Speaker 3: so that'll help with the hospital and retail sectors. But
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  Speaker 3: as far as training, leaning on the Feds to make
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  Speaker 3: sure that they could give us more training money, we
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  Speaker 3: obviously won't get that now that they're in caretakers. We've
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  Speaker 3: been working with the Feds for a long time to
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  Speaker 3: try and improve our training funding and will continue to
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  Speaker 3: do everything we can to get as many workers to
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  Speaker 3: the territory.
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  Speaker 1: Are we seeing as well, you know with some of
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  Speaker 1: those those federal agreements in terms of bringing workers across
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  Speaker 1: from overseas? Now, I know that obviously it's ideal to
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  Speaker 1: try and employ locals where we can, But the situation
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  Speaker 1: in some of these different roles is that we actually
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  Speaker 1: do need you know, we actually do need people in
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  Speaker 1: some of these cases from overseas. Is there a lot
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  Speaker 1: going on in that space now? We're expecting to sort
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  Speaker 1: of see workers come across at some point?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, certainly, Katie. Look, we travel up and down the
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  Speaker 3: track talking to businesses. We're in Tenan Creek over a
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  Speaker 3: month ago. Alice Springs last week to the Daily over
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  Speaker 3: the weekend, and Man and Greta after this interview. Actually, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but certainly down at Alas Springs, the Pacific Island of Scheme.
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  Speaker 3: You go to the Hilton there and they're beautiful people
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  Speaker 3: that came out last year. They really enjoy their time
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  Speaker 3: here and they are helping out a lot like the
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  Speaker 3: Hilton would be really struggling if they didn't have access
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  Speaker 3: to those people. Will continue to improve those schemes and
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  Speaker 3: whether it's you know, we know that there's a cohort
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  Speaker 3: that come from Team or in other areas to help
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  Speaker 3: out with mango seasons. We're absolutely focused on continuing to
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  Speaker 3: grow those opportunities to get people here. The direct flights
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  Speaker 3: from London even we've talked with the federal government about
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  Speaker 3: making sure that they lean into advertising in Europe to
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  Speaker 3: make sure people know backpackers or people that want to
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  Speaker 3: come out for a period of time can lob straight
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  Speaker 3: in Darwin now. So yeah, we're pulling as many leavers
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  Speaker 3: as we can to make sure people have got opportunities
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  Speaker 3: to come here. We know that the labor markets tight
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  Speaker 3: all over the world, not just here in the territory
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  Speaker 3: or Australia.
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  Speaker 1: And I would imagine that it's a concern as well
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  Speaker 1: in the leading to the dry season because I guess
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  Speaker 1: we're all hoping for a bumper dry season. But if
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  Speaker 1: you don't have the staff to be able to service everybody,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to make it difficult.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and certainly, whether that's getting into schools and explaining
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  Speaker 3: to year nine, ten and eleven kids what opportunities they've got,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's getting those people from overseas, whether it's like
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  Speaker 3: these pre employment courses like is essentially what the cabin
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  Speaker 3: crew staff got trained up in the responsible service of alcohol,
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  Speaker 3: customer service roles, first aid courses like. Those people then
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  Speaker 3: become ultimately employable through a wide range of industries. So
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  Speaker 3: those pre employment training that we can give to people
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  Speaker 3: is something that will really concentrate hard on so that
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  Speaker 3: anybody that wants a job in the territory in the
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  Speaker 3: next six months will certainly be taken up.
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  Speaker 2: Minister.
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  Speaker 1: One of the other issues that has been an enormous
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  Speaker 1: concern for a lot of people around the territory now
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  Speaker 1: for some time, but particularly around Darwin and the northern
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  Speaker 1: suburbs and Palmerston at the moment is the anti social
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  Speaker 1: behavior and criminal behavior public drunkenness that we are seeing now.
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  Speaker 1: The Darwin City Retailers Association they joined us on the
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  Speaker 1: show yesterday and are seeking an urgent call to action
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  Speaker 1: from the government when it comes to some of the
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  Speaker 1: issues that our retailers in the city are facing. We
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  Speaker 1: spoke to Andrea Wicking, the Darwin City Retailers General manager
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and she had said it doesn't mean directing people
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  Speaker 1: to grants to secure their businesses while continuing to ignore
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  Speaker 1: the problem at hand.
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  Speaker 2: Minister, I am sure.
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  Speaker 1: That business is at the moment for you, as the
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  Speaker 1: Minister for Small Business, are crying out to you about
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  Speaker 1: this con How big is an impact? How big an
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  Speaker 1: impact is it having from your perspective.
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  Speaker 3: Well, probably those two things that you've touched on, Katie,
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  Speaker 3: access to workers and people's safety at work, all the
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  Speaker 3: security of their premises, because realistically, if it's your home
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  Speaker 3: that gets broken into, or your car, or your premise
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  Speaker 3: or your work premise, like they are all very personal problems,
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  Speaker 3: Like it's a real personal attack on us. It's abhorrent
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  Speaker 3: and we absolutely hate when that happens. But look, there
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  Speaker 3: are a range of different things. You've heard the Chief
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  Speaker 3: Minister talk about how stretched all of our NGOs, all
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  Speaker 3: of our police services have been during COVID. We've seen
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  Speaker 3: police put out some communication now to say that there'll
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  Speaker 3: be a community engagement section set up to deal with
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  Speaker 3: anti social and secondary supply of alcohol in around the
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  Speaker 3: city and the parrap areas. Now that they're starting to
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  Speaker 3: get some of their staff back and back off leave,
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  Speaker 3: but they've had chunked up over the last couple of
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  Speaker 3: years dealing with COVID, So certainly it is something that
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  Speaker 3: we speak with people about almost every day. We've issued
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  Speaker 3: a review of our secure programs and we're starting to
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  Speaker 3: get some of that data come through. Now. If there's
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  Speaker 3: better ways that we can help secure people's businesses, we
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  Speaker 3: absolutely want to speak with people about that. So through
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  Speaker 3: the bi Secure People or the Small Business Champions, we
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  Speaker 3: urge people to reach out, reach out to my office
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  Speaker 3: and talk to us. But as we get those police back,
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  Speaker 3: as we get Larochie Nations continuing to do a Larokee patrol,
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  Speaker 3: sorry to continuing to do the good work that they're
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  Speaker 3: doing the Blue Shirts around town. As far as security goes,
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  Speaker 3: we'll continue to work with everyone to make sure that
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  Speaker 3: we're doing the best that we absolutely can.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, with the utmost respect. What is happening at
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  Speaker 1: the moment though, is clearly not enough.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what we're seeing at the moment is an absolute search.
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  Speaker 3: Now you've been around for a while, Katie, you would
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  Speaker 3: remember back in.
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  Speaker 1: Lith I've never seen it so bad. I've never seen
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  Speaker 1: it as bad.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And in two and seventeen we heard people
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  Speaker 3: saying they've never seen it as bad then either. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm absolutely happy to admit that. I think there's more
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  Speaker 3: people in and around town now than that even was
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  Speaker 3: in two thousand and seventeen. So we have injected more.
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  Speaker 3: What you've heard Natasha talk about the Riley Review and
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  Speaker 3: all the alcohol issues and some of the proactive measures
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  Speaker 3: through that.
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  Speaker 2: But do you think we're at christ this point.
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  Speaker 3: As we get police back off of those duties and
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  Speaker 3: from their COVID duty so that we get more access
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  Speaker 3: to them and more access to patrols. I understand that
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  Speaker 3: we've got over two thousand displaced people around the top
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  Speaker 3: end at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: We have never had those amounts of people, so we
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  Speaker 3: are I know, over the last few weeks we've returned
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  Speaker 3: the same amount of people to country as what we've
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  Speaker 3: done in about the last three months, but there is
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  Speaker 3: still a large cohort of people in town and they
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  Speaker 3: sometimes do have expendable money and money to buy our
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  Speaker 3: and that does create a large range of problems.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that we are at crisis point at
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  Speaker 2: the moment.
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  Speaker 3: I think that we are seeing more people in here
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  Speaker 3: than we ever have, Katie, and that does create some problems.
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  Speaker 3: Will continue to work through it. It's not something that
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  Speaker 3: we stop working on. It's something that will continue to
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  Speaker 3: work with them.
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  Speaker 1: I just I guess I just don't understand. And I've
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  Speaker 1: spoken to the Police minister about it. I've spoken to
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  Speaker 1: the Chief Minister about it. I've spoken to the Minister
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  Speaker 1: for Health, and now I'm speaking to you as the
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  Speaker 1: Minister for Small Business, and I just can't understand at
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  Speaker 1: the moment why the Northern Territory government won't just acknowledge
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  Speaker 1: that we are in a situation where we have reached
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  Speaker 1: crisis point. You know, we've got businesses that are being
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  Speaker 1: broken into, we have got people that are being assaulted
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  Speaker 1: on the street, We've got behavior that we've you know,
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  Speaker 1: that is entirely unacceptable, and I just can't understand why
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  Speaker 1: you guys aren't coming out and going right. These are
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  Speaker 1: the things that we are going to do differently, and
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  Speaker 1: we are going to help the community to make a
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  Speaker 1: difference here.
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  Speaker 3: If you can't pick it up from what every minister
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  Speaker 3: has said to you that we are taking this problem seriously,
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  Speaker 3: we can't make it any clearer that we have got
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  Speaker 3: some massive problems at the moment. They have been created
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  Speaker 3: through a tsunami of other issues that have come to
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  Speaker 3: poor and we're probably right at the point the end
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  Speaker 3: of it. As we get those police back, as I've said,
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  Speaker 3: they have explained that they're going to have more community
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  Speaker 3: engagement sections set up, They're going to have more police
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  Speaker 3: on the beat through the city. We're going to continue
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  Speaker 3: to return more people to country. I know through my portfolio,
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  Speaker 3: so I can honestly Candy that we're doing being secure
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  Speaker 3: and we'll have an announcement about how we can refunnel
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  Speaker 3: some of that money in the coming weeks and months
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  Speaker 3: to make sure that people's businesses are secure. And I
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  Speaker 3: know that the Police Minister and the Health Minister and
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  Speaker 3: all those people are doing exactly what they need to.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get together again over the next couple of days
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  Speaker 3: in Cabinet and discuss any of the further actions that
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  Speaker 3: we can take.
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  Speaker 1: And look, I guess from me you know, you guys
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  Speaker 1: say that you're doing your jobs from the you know,
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  Speaker 1: in order to do my job, it is to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that our ministers, our decision makers do know how
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  Speaker 1: the community is feeling at the moment. And the community
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  Speaker 1: is very much fed up and they very much are
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  Speaker 1: screaming out for help. So if there is going to
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  Speaker 1: be a cabinet meeting, if you guys are going to
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  Speaker 1: be discussing.
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  Speaker 2: This, please please please bear.
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  Speaker 1: In mind how the community is feeling right now, and
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  Speaker 1: please keep that at the four when you are making
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  Speaker 1: any decisions.
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  Speaker 3: O Katie. Those discussions happen every week in cabinet and
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  Speaker 3: we don't pull the Police commissioner in or anything like that,
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  Speaker 3: but she meets. The Minister for Police meets on a
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  Speaker 3: very regular basis and we don't you know, with the
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  Speaker 3: greatest respect to your show, we don't need to listen
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  Speaker 3: to your show to know.
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  Speaker 1: What public it's not about listening to me, It's about
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  Speaker 1: listening to everyday people. It's not about listening to me.
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  Speaker 1: It's about listening to everyday people. And you know, even
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  Speaker 1: from the retail sector with the Darwin City retailers, they
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  Speaker 1: you know, they have said it is about learning to
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  Speaker 1: read the room, listening, understanding, not being dismissive, and looking
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  Speaker 1: at alternatives to start making the city a safer place
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  Speaker 1: for locals and visitors alike.
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  Speaker 3: We are absolutely We met with those retailers groups again yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: We meet with them regularly. We're going to continue to
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  Speaker 3: get more people back on those return to country programs.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to continue to make sure that there are
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  Speaker 3: more police in town to deal with these types of issues.
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  Speaker 3: There's no silver bullet for it, Katie, but I just
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  Speaker 3: want to be absolutely clear with you. We're out talking
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  Speaker 3: to the public every single day, on talking to businesses
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  Speaker 3: every single day. We're well aware of the types of
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  Speaker 3: feedback that you guys are getting, and it is absolutely
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  Speaker 3: discussed every week in cabinet when we get together.
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  Speaker 1: Do you reckon we need to have a relook at,
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  Speaker 1: you know, whether whether it is allowed or whether we
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  Speaker 1: should actually be looking at if you can drink in
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  Speaker 1: a public place and if we have got people, you know,
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  Speaker 1: drinking in a public place, should we be re implementing
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  Speaker 1: that it's actually an offense.
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  Speaker 3: Look, we're absolutely happy to work with police about any
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  Speaker 3: leaver that they think that we need to pull to
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  Speaker 3: give them the powers that they need, and we know
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  Speaker 3: that they will continually bring people in if there's antisocial affairs,
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  Speaker 3: violent issues, but that, as I've said, not over two
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  Speaker 3: thousand displaced people in this top end area right at
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  Speaker 3: the moment, now, yeah or not.
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  Speaker 1: Well and well yeah, but we've been hearing the same
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  Speaker 1: figures since the beginning of the year, and then the
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  Speaker 1: Chief Minister said in March that there were four hundred
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  Speaker 1: that were returned home.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I wasn't planning on going.
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  Speaker 1: Into this detail with you, but then obviously we had
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  Speaker 1: the Police Minister on last week she said that those
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  Speaker 1: numbers were the same. So again there will be a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people listening this morning thinking, well, why are
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  Speaker 1: they still the same? Why haven't we seen a real,
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  Speaker 1: you know, an increase in the capabilities if Larikia Nation
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  Speaker 1: does need further assistance or if they need more to
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  Speaker 1: be able to, you know, to try and help them
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  Speaker 1: with that program.
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  Speaker 2: Are we looking at all those leavers.
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  Speaker 3: We're looking at any leavers that we can. We're the
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  Speaker 3: government that reinvested in Lara Kia Nation that we have
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  Speaker 3: put those blue shirts on. We do work with con
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  Speaker 3: and the Council. We've met with them just recently. As
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  Speaker 3: I said, we met with the retailers yesterday. But from
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  Speaker 3: opening up Baton Road, from introducing or reintroducing the BDR
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  Speaker 3: minimum floor price, the sobering up shelter, the Riley Review, like,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of work that we have done. There's
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  Speaker 3: been a massive influx of people, and we'll continue to
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  Speaker 3: work with people. We're absolutely acknowledging the grief that it
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  Speaker 3: does cause, and we'll continue to work with businesses and
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  Speaker 3: people to try and make sure that we return as
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  Speaker 3: many people to country and keep people as safe and
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  Speaker 3: secure moving around the city as we possibly can.
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  Speaker 2: Minister, before I let you go, Rob has called through.
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  Speaker 1: He wants to know how are the East arm boat
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  Speaker 1: ramp repairs going that were promised a few months ago.
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  Speaker 3: That's a really good question. I haven't had an update
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  Speaker 3: from fisheries because from the rat fishing perspective, it sits
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  Speaker 3: more under dipple. But do those repairs. I know that
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  Speaker 3: they had ordered some parts from interstate or overseas to
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  Speaker 3: get those repairs completed, and I haven't heard anything just recently.
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  Speaker 3: What I will say while we're talking about fishing is
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  Speaker 3: we did have the opportunity to take Laila down to
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  Speaker 3: the Daily River for the kids Borrow Classic over the
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  Speaker 3: weekend or for their competition. I just like to wish
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  Speaker 3: all of the ladies and gents that are down their
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  Speaker 3: fishing tight lines and I hope they catch some big
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  Speaker 3: barrel undy.
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  Speaker 2: I hope they do as well.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Minister, if you can give us a bit of an update,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: or if someone is able to give us a bit
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: of an update on that easter boat ramp, I know
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: that it is one that our listeners are keen to
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: find out about.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Yep, no, we certainly will find that info at and
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: send it through Kaddie good Stuff.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Minister Paul Kirby, the Minister for Small Business and various
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: other things.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: We appreciate your time this morning.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Thank you, appreciate that. Thanks Gaddie, Thank you,