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Chuck & Buck 6-24 Hour 4: What's up with the Kraken? Spoon is more than INT's and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Yeah, UFL's not trying enough, it's not getting creative enough.
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Speaker 1: Here's an idea, Hugh Millan starting quarterback with the Houston Gamblers.
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Speaker 2: There you go.
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Speaker 1: I see he's still got to left.
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Speaker 3: Someone on the someone on the YouTube channel was like, well,
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Speaker 3: Cam Newton couln't play at the end of his career,
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Speaker 3: and he's even older now, but wouldn't you want to
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Speaker 3: tune in and see if he's still got something left.
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Speaker 2: That's the point.
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Speaker 1: That's not the point. I mean, it's a minor league.
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Speaker 1: Cam Newton says he can still play. He is an
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Speaker 1: analyst right now in the sport, and he says, every
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Speaker 1: time somebody is giving, any time anybody gets hype, I
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Speaker 1: can outplay that guy. Well, let's go prove it. Let's
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Speaker 1: you only have to prove it for two games before
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Speaker 1: an NFL too be like, oh gosh, he does have
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Speaker 1: something left. Yeah, go prove it, Hugh Mellan, go prove it.
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Speaker 2: See it.
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Speaker 3: Stop telling stop telling us you can throw that ball
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Speaker 3: over that mountain.
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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, and then Clay can be your backup for
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Speaker 1: the Houston Gamblers. Good enough for Jim Kelly.
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Speaker 2: Hugh, Yeah, what he got against Jim Kelly.
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Speaker 1: You shouldn't have nothing against Jim Kelly. What did Jim
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Speaker 1: Kelly ever do to you? Good morning to you, nine
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Speaker 1: o'clock hour here on this one, Hugh never brags like that.
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Speaker 1: It's just the opposite.
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Speaker 2: But it'd be really funny to see him do it.
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Speaker 1: The reason it's funny is because I'm exaggerating that he
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Speaker 1: still thinks he can play the game.
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Speaker 2: Ye people, you could still play. It's like, yeah, we're.
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Speaker 1: Just joking, We're just joking. I want to know I'm
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Speaker 1: saying that for huge purposes. Yes, you would be mortified
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Speaker 1: if he thought I was telling our audience that Hughestt's right,
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Speaker 1: says he could still play. All right, So yeah, I
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Speaker 1: wanted to clear that up before we go.
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Speaker 2: Don't write in and be like such a jerky.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, total being funny. All right, nine o'clock hour. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna get to some cracking here in a little bit.
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Speaker 1: But I do want to mention something. I was out
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Speaker 1: in the sports pit a moment ago. There was a
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Speaker 1: time in my life and I was kind of getting
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Speaker 1: out of shape and yet had not yet committed myself
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Speaker 1: to getting back into shape. Probably around Yeah, I don't
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Speaker 1: even know what the age was. But I did get
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Speaker 1: back into very good shape, like in my forties. But
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Speaker 1: there was a time where I was kind of getting
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Speaker 1: out and then hadn't yet committed to getting back in,
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Speaker 1: and so it didn't really matter where I was, It
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Speaker 1: didn't matter what group of friends I was with. I
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Speaker 1: would just challenge everyone there to a foot race. Oh yes,
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Speaker 1: And not that I thought that I would win, That
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Speaker 1: wasn't the point. In many cases, I didn't think I
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Speaker 1: would win. But the message was, let's just figure out
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Speaker 1: where we rank. I'd like to know. So you know,
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Speaker 1: I've had a few runs on the beaches, had a
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Speaker 1: few runs out in parking lots, perfect with groups of
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Speaker 1: like age friends of mine over the years. It was
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Speaker 1: a short period of time where we just determined. One
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Speaker 1: time I split my pants racing my friend JB in
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Speaker 1: a pair of cowboy boots. I was wearing cowboy boots.
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, he beat me and I ended up
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Speaker 1: with split pants out of it. So just as an example,
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Speaker 1: So anyway, I just went out to the sales pit
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Speaker 1: and I said, let's go out to the courtyard and
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Speaker 1: let's just have a race. And then it ended up
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Speaker 1: in a conversation about we should have a different contest
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Speaker 1: every week, and then we just have numbers like one
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Speaker 1: to ten, and we don't tell anybody what we did,
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Speaker 1: but we wear around those numbers for the rest of
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Speaker 1: the day how we finished that, no matter what the
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Speaker 1: competition is, and then everybody else on the staff is
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Speaker 1: going to have to guess, like what competition we were
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Speaker 1: in that day.
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Speaker 2: I think it's a brilliant idea.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that a great idea?
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Speaker 3: I am always thinking or hoping that we can find
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Speaker 3: ways a way make work more fun.
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Speaker 2: That's it, let's do it.
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Speaker 1: So Yeah, every day we decide on a different competition.
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Speaker 1: I don't care what it could be. Ro Schambeau, I
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Speaker 1: don't care. And then we wear like like we were
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Speaker 1: in a long distance race, like a marathon race. We
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Speaker 1: wear the number of our order of finish for the
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Speaker 1: rest of the day and yet can't tell anybody what
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Speaker 1: the competition was.
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Speaker 2: I like it right now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah a great idea, Yeah, great team camaraderie.
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Speaker 2: Yeah I'm in.
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Speaker 4: This.
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Speaker 3: Better happened, Because it doesn't, I'm now going to be angry.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to feel very competitive and have nowhere to
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Speaker 3: get it out.
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Speaker 1: Of course, the two young people are two youngest people
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Speaker 1: in the sports pit are like, yeah, they were the
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Speaker 1: most fired up because they think they're going to finish
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Speaker 1: first and second everything. They're idiots, so they were the
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Speaker 1: most gung ho about the idea. But I don't know,
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Speaker 1: even if we don't do it, maybe you could do
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Speaker 1: it in your office place.
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Speaker 3: If you're listening, right, great idea, And I just want
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Speaker 3: to say, I want a picture of you and everyone
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Speaker 3: in your office with your numbers.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't care what foot race, like you
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Speaker 1: all line up at sack races. Yep, you know, uh
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Speaker 1: who's got the longer wiener. I don't care what it is.
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Speaker 3: No, one's probably not a good one for work. I'm
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Speaker 3: gonna say, probably not a good one.
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Speaker 1: With the right group and the group that's on the
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Speaker 1: same page. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: I guess it depends on where your work.
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Speaker 1: I mean, who can drink the most.
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Speaker 3: Some places those things might be appropriate. Drinking would probably
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Speaker 3: be appropriate.
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Speaker 1: Here, beer chug, beer chug time. You know, who knows?
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Speaker 1: Who knows what the competition is? Fist fighting? Maybe it's
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Speaker 1: just fistfight. Maybe just start our own fight club out
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Speaker 1: in the courtyard.
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Speaker 3: Sure, well, we can't talk about it then then though,
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Speaker 3: if that happens, and.
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Speaker 1: I love the fact that you'd have to win ten
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Speaker 1: rounds to get number one, just to wear it around
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Speaker 1: for a day, Yeah, well you could well nine.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you could yeah, every round. I love if
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Speaker 3: you are racing. Really it's just.
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Speaker 1: Just just once. I guess we could just have a
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Speaker 1: full out brawl.
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Speaker 2: And you could do a crab walk arrest, a.
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Speaker 1: Royal fight like a brawl, last one standing.
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Speaker 2: Standing, it's whoever fell fell second to last.
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Speaker 1: Or throw them out of the ring, yep, that sort
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Speaker 1: of thing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get outside those ropes and you're.
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Speaker 1: Out anyway, we get suits. I think it's a great
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Speaker 1: idea for your office place, or your community, or your neighborhood,
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Speaker 1: or your church yep, whatever the case may be. Just
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Speaker 1: get huddle before church and then wear it during the
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Speaker 1: sermon that.
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Speaker 3: Because, let's be honest, you're sitting there staring at everybody
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Speaker 3: wondering how much better at things you are.
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Speaker 1: Than they are?
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Speaker 3: Yes, or how just yeah, I wonder if I could
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Speaker 3: take this guy, Well, now's the time to find out.
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Speaker 1: I wonder if I'm faster than Jim from accounting?
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Speaker 2: All right? Lace him up, Jim, We're going.
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Speaker 1: Let's let's just start proving this. Yeah, and we'll wear
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Speaker 1: the numbers all day long to show where we stand
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Speaker 1: amongst our peers. Anyway, please run with it, take it
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Speaker 1: if you'd like the crack and right now. They kind
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Speaker 1: of measured themselves around the National Hockey League and found
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Speaker 1: themselves wanting, wanting more wins, wanting more success, wanting more
7:09
Speaker 1: trips to the Stanley Cup playoffs, and so. In a
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Speaker 1: rather dramatic display at the end of this past regular season,
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Speaker 1: toddal i Wicki the most important person in the history
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Speaker 1: of Seattle sports. He declared, and showed himself vulnerable in
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Speaker 1: doing so. It's not good enough. We're going to fix it.
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Speaker 1: We're going to turn over every stone in our organization
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out why we're not better than what
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Speaker 1: we are right now, they did a self audit on
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Speaker 1: themselves coming out of the regular season. Well they now
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Speaker 1: have the results of that. I don't know what we
7:50
Speaker 1: were expecting to hear. I really don't. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if they Oh, I know what the problem is. Jared McCann.
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if it was going to
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Speaker 1: ever be that cut and dry and we were never
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Speaker 1: going to get all access to all the information that
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Speaker 1: their audit uncovered. But our own e in Furness got
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Speaker 1: the chance to sit down with the man Todd Laiwiki
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Speaker 1: this week and got to ask him about what it
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Speaker 1: is that they learned from their audit. And we're going
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Speaker 1: to play that entire five minute conversation for you right now.
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Speaker 1: Here's Ian Furness with Todd Laiwiki.
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm here with Kraken CEO Todd Laiwiki and Todd
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Speaker 5: just a couple of months ago you said, Hey, we're
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Speaker 5: going to go do effectively what would be considered a
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Speaker 5: deep dive an audit, so to speak, in terms of
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Speaker 5: the organization, the hockey organization and not so much the
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Speaker 5: players the roster behind us, but basically what it is
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Speaker 5: is through the whole organization to find out how connected
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Speaker 5: you guys are and what maybe needs to happen. Can
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Speaker 5: you walk us through what were you looking for with
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Speaker 5: sportsology that came in and did it and what did
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Speaker 5: they find?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was you know, it was another pledge we
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Speaker 6: made that we were going to turn over every stone
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Speaker 6: and we looked far and wide for the right group
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Speaker 6: and I think we landed on. What we didn't want
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Speaker 6: was an echo chamber. We didn't want to round up
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Speaker 6: friends or associates people the hockey business that you've know
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Speaker 6: for years and I have friends, and I got calls.
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Speaker 6: But we landed on a group that had no bias,
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Speaker 6: and we directed them to turn every stone to ask
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Speaker 6: the hard questions. They have an incredible track record. I
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Speaker 6: know about them when I was at the NFL. We
9:26
Speaker 6: did reference checks. They came in and they did exactly
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Speaker 6: what we wanted. Phase one is now done. We learned
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Speaker 6: a lot. We came away inspired because there are things
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Speaker 6: we're doing well. They believe that Samantha Holloway and our
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Speaker 6: ownership have done an incredible job of giving.
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Speaker 7: Us the resource. But there were gaps.
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Speaker 6: And you know the old book Good to Great that
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Speaker 6: submits it's harder to go from good to great, that
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Speaker 6: it is from not good to good came true and
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Speaker 6: it really caused us to pause and say, well, this
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Speaker 6: is something, it's part of our DNA, this is how
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Speaker 6: we were going to go build this. We're not the best.
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Speaker 6: What are those gaps? What are the shortcomings of how
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Speaker 6: do we fix it? And I'm going to be careful
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Speaker 6: about not revealing too many trade secrets here because what
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Speaker 6: I'm saying can be disseminated to other teams. But I
10:15
Speaker 6: will go into some of that and we can maybe
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Speaker 6: talk about development.
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Speaker 5: Well, let's talk about that, because I mean people want
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Speaker 5: to say, Okay, they found some things. It probably doesn't
10:25
Speaker 5: matter what business we're in, right, you can always find
10:27
Speaker 5: improvements and do things better. And I mean I think
10:29
Speaker 5: every people have annual reviews or they bring consultants in.
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Speaker 5: And this feels like much more of a deep dive.
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Speaker 5: So a fan sitting at home right now is asking,
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Speaker 5: that's great, you did a deep dive.
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Speaker 7: You look through all these things.
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Speaker 5: You're not going to reveal everything, but maybe some tangible things.
10:44
Speaker 5: Your gms in place, your coaches in place, you have
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Speaker 5: made some additions. Maybe those are some of the tangible things.
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Speaker 5: We can talk about player development, all those things. But
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Speaker 5: what did you see? What did you find? What did
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Speaker 5: the organization find that you need to work on? And
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Speaker 5: what changes do you think that can you discuss that.
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Speaker 7: Have been made.
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Speaker 6: One area I would say was development because we've prided ourselves,
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Speaker 6: we believe.
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Speaker 7: That we have an excellent group of prospects.
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Speaker 6: We have set it up in coach Hella Valley to
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Speaker 6: be the ultimate American Hockey League team, and so that
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Speaker 6: whole development piece we're pushing it. We're going to push
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Speaker 6: it from top to bottom. And it's prospects who might
11:21
Speaker 6: be playing juniors, playing college, it's prospects that are at
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Speaker 6: the American Hockey League level, and it's actual players that
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Speaker 6: are on our current roster. And we've already started. We've
11:33
Speaker 6: added staff. You know, we have an assistant coach who
11:36
Speaker 6: had incredible success in developing players in the American Hockey League.
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Speaker 6: Pascale is going to be an amazing addition to that
11:42
Speaker 6: coaching staff. We have a formed player coming back, Coach Schultz.
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Speaker 6: Now a player becomes a coach and he's a development coach.
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Speaker 6: We're investing in additional staff positions. Out of this will
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Speaker 6: be a whole number of additions we're going to make
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Speaker 6: to our development team or player development team, fitness, conditioning, nutrition,
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Speaker 6: because we don't want to be good at it, we
12:06
Speaker 6: want to be the best. And being honest with you,
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Speaker 6: I think that if we had made the playoffs now
12:13
Speaker 6: looking back, some of these challenges might have prohibit us
12:17
Speaker 6: from going deep. And now we realize that the work
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Speaker 6: we've done. There is a path for us to dream
12:24
Speaker 6: about being better than we ever would have been had
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Speaker 6: we not done what we've done here.
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Speaker 5: What's your message to fans now that you've gone through
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Speaker 5: this process and you have as an organization committed to
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Speaker 5: making changes in additions and doing what you can, what
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Speaker 5: would you tell fans as they get ready for what
12:38
Speaker 5: should be an exciting offseason here in the next few weeks,
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Speaker 5: but also the next season which starts later this fall.
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Speaker 7: Well, we're not happy.
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Speaker 6: We made promises, we made pledges and we came up short.
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Speaker 6: We all were fans better and we're deeply committed to
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Speaker 6: getting this right because all the pieces are here to
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Speaker 6: build one of the great franchises in the National Hockey League.
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Speaker 6: We believe in our fans, we believe in this market,
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Speaker 6: we believe in our arena, and we actually believe in
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Speaker 6: the people leading this. But they've got to do better.
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Speaker 6: We've got to empower them with better direction, with more resource,
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Speaker 6: with more people.
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Speaker 7: And you're saying it happen in real time. It is happening.
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Speaker 7: And we have had a very very productive two months
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Speaker 7: since the end of the season.
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Speaker 5: It should be an eventful few weeks coming up as
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Speaker 5: well as we headed to the drafts, free agency, and
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Speaker 5: so much more.
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Speaker 1: Thank you you bet that's Ian for Nas with tod
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Speaker 1: laiwiki and so those are the results straight from the
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Speaker 1: horse's mouth there about the audit. What's your reaction to that, Ashley.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I wish we would have learned more, but
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Speaker 3: I understand that, like what he's saying, you know, we
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Speaker 3: don't want other teams to know our play by play
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Speaker 3: of everything we're doing to improve this team. And I
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Speaker 3: do like that they're taking it seriously.
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Speaker 2: I like that they are.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, I think, been the most publicized
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Speaker 3: secret right Like they're saying, you know, well, here's what
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Speaker 3: we're doing. I know we're not going to reveal everything,
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Speaker 3: but we are taking this seriously. We are not happy
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Speaker 3: with what has been going on here, and I think
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Speaker 3: they recognize the urgency of improving this team and making
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Speaker 3: sure that this team doesn't fade into the background when
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Speaker 3: a basketball team comes.
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Speaker 1: Well, my reaction is kind of three phases to that.
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Speaker 1: Number One. If I were somebody that liked sports, kind
14:25
Speaker 1: of would like it more. Oh, I like going to
14:28
Speaker 1: the game, but boy, am I going to really commit
14:31
Speaker 1: to I mean, that's a pretty expensive ticket. And I
14:34
Speaker 1: heard that, I'd be like, oh wow, that's awesome. I
14:37
Speaker 1: think that that would probably make me think, as somebody
14:42
Speaker 1: that kind of watched sports, oh wow, that's that's an
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Speaker 1: impressive statement. Problem is that so many of us, if
14:53
Speaker 1: you are listening to sports talk radio regularly, or you
14:57
Speaker 1: are hosting sports talk radio, you tend to be come
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Speaker 1: jaded and you're like, Okay, blah blah blah blah blah,
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Speaker 1: that's a lot of lip service. Um proof is in
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Speaker 1: the pudding. We're gonna need to see the actions that
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Speaker 1: you're going to take. That just sounds like a pretty
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Speaker 1: speech that you're making, and I might side on that.
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Speaker 1: I might actually finish there if not for it being
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Speaker 1: Todd lai Wiki, the fact that it's coming from toddalai Wiki,
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Speaker 1: who's kind of an unimpeachable source that once when you
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Speaker 1: hear it from his mouth, when he says it that way,
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Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, there's a different mentality, uh with the Kraken.
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Speaker 1: And I don't think they've had a bad mentality. I
15:43
Speaker 1: think they've just misfired on some things. Yeah, I would agree,
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Speaker 1: and it's not been They've not been terrible since they
15:49
Speaker 1: took the ice. They just right now are kind of
15:51
Speaker 1: stuck in mediocre at this point, maybe slightly below. And
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Speaker 1: that when I hear Todd lai wiki say, that's not
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Speaker 1: what we are weird. We are out to be the best,
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Speaker 1: absolute best, or I believe that that's not just lip service.
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Speaker 1: That's somebody that I've come to trust. And so when
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Speaker 1: he throws his weight like that around, he throws those
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Speaker 1: words around coming from his point of view. Yeah, I
16:17
Speaker 1: think it is motivating. I think it is powerful. But
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Speaker 1: there are plenty of presidents, owners, general managers who if
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Speaker 1: they gave us that same speech, it'd be in one
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Speaker 1: ear out the.
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Speaker 2: Yep, it'd be more used car salesman at that point.
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Speaker 3: And I think, you know, like I'm just telling you
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Speaker 3: this because I got to tell you this, whereas Todd Laywickie, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I just have more belief in him.
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Speaker 1: Well, I have total Yeah, I have total belief in him.
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Speaker 1: And that's that's some guy with a proven track record,
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Speaker 1: and now he's trying to give the crack and a
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Speaker 1: proven track record. But if it comes, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: They're a lot. I'm not sure. I'm not sure if
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of people say, we no trust us,
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Speaker 1: we did a thorough we're gonna fix this. I'm not.
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Speaker 1: I would have to see the results before I believed anything.
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Speaker 1: But this guy, yeah, you know, I believe him all right.
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Speaker 1: Coming up next on the program Seahawks one Series recap.
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Speaker 1: If you didn't hear Greg Bell breaking down Devin Witherspoon yesterday,
17:14
Speaker 1: a little bit from him, and then a little bit
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Speaker 1: from US Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R
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Speaker 1: f M. I'll tell you what it is to be human.
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Speaker 1: It's finishing seventh to your co workers in leg wrestling,
17:38
Speaker 1: and then how you respond to that. That's what being
17:42
Speaker 1: human is, and there is no wrong answer, that's right.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes the human response is to laugh it off, like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I guess I'm not very good at leg wrestling. Sometimes
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Speaker 1: the human response is to say, I am going to
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Speaker 1: become the best leg wrestler, not just in this office,
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Speaker 1: but of all time.
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Speaker 2: That's what it means to be human.
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Speaker 1: That's what it means to be human. Sometimes it's going
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Speaker 1: to HR and saying, can you believe that Rich Strauss
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Speaker 1: from Sales just leg wrestled me and I pulled a hammy. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Kenny grabbed me inappropriately and.
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Speaker 2: Then he say, can you cover it? Does workers comp
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Speaker 2: cover this?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what It's another way to be human. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's just the human condition right there. I don't need
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Speaker 1: a podcast to point it out. Good morning to you.
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Speaker 1: It is Ashley and myself Chuck Powell, and yes, we've
18:26
Speaker 1: been doing the Seahawks one series throughout the course of
18:28
Speaker 1: the month of June. That's one of our analysts in
18:31
Speaker 1: town breaking down one key Seahawk player for one entire interview,
18:35
Speaker 1: and then we also do the Seahawks one series recap,
18:39
Speaker 1: especially when the person is particularly interesting. Greg Bell brought
18:42
Speaker 1: it yesterday, our Seahawks Insider. He's going to be back
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Speaker 1: on today at ten o'clock. He has his own show,
18:47
Speaker 1: you know, but still regularly as our Seahawks insider on
18:51
Speaker 1: the Chuck and Buck radio program. And we saved him
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Speaker 1: for our last week of the Seahawks one series, and
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Speaker 1: he was saved. Witherspoon, he could not wait. He'd been
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Speaker 1: doing some research. That guy went deep yesterday on telling
19:05
Speaker 1: us why Devin Witherspoon is no in no way just
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Speaker 1: a statistic that you can find on a stat sheet somewhere. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he had one interception a year ago, But it doesn't
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Speaker 1: even come close to telling the whole story about Spoon's
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Speaker 1: value to the Seattle Seahawks.
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Speaker 8: Here's great consider this last year, Witherspoon played in just
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Speaker 8: twelve games.
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Speaker 9: Well, in those twelve games, he had only.
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Speaker 8: Fifty nine pass targets. What's that mean. Well, the NFL
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Speaker 8: average in a game is thirty two and a half
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Speaker 8: passes per team per game on average. And when the
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Speaker 8: Seahawks case, because they were up by often a score
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Speaker 8: or two or three, it was a lot more than
19:48
Speaker 8: thirty two passes a game. They were facing that fewer
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Speaker 8: than five pass a game for teams that were throwing
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Speaker 8: thirty two plus times a game. On the Seahawks, one
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Speaker 8: sixth of the time he was getting targeted on average,
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Speaker 8: and it was usually at less than that. That means
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Speaker 8: that five to sixth of the time I'm starting to
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Speaker 8: sound like Hugh Millin here with these numbers, But five
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Speaker 8: to sixths of the time Devin Witherspoon was shutting down
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Speaker 8: his part of the field he was covering now on
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Speaker 8: early downs that was usually outside at left cornerback. That
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Speaker 8: means five to sixth at the time when he was
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Speaker 8: outside at left corner. The Seahawks didn't have to worry
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Speaker 8: about the left side of the field from the about
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Speaker 8: the hash marks out or the numbers out. That's a
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Speaker 8: huge advantage for Mike McDonald. Then when you put him inside,
20:33
Speaker 8: which they of course they do quite a bit as
20:35
Speaker 8: a nickel and dime when they bring an extra defensive backs,
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Speaker 8: he was taken away the middle of the field or
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Speaker 8: the slot receiver, which in the NFL, slot receivers are
20:44
Speaker 8: the ones quarterbacks usually go to often go to on
20:47
Speaker 8: third downs or in red zones. I think Poop and Nakua,
20:50
Speaker 8: think Cooper.
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Speaker 9: Cup at his prime with the Rams, and he's shutting
20:53
Speaker 9: those guys down five sixth at the time. So if
20:56
Speaker 9: you have a piece that teams don't even want to
20:59
Speaker 9: at a reputation and what they see on film go
21:02
Speaker 9: at it's Richard Sherman esque that teams don't want to
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Speaker 9: throw at Devin Witherspoon. That is a huge advantage for
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Speaker 9: how Mike McDonald raised the rest of his defense. It
21:12
Speaker 9: allows him to blitz.
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Speaker 8: Nick even worry as much as he did last year.
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Speaker 8: It allows him to mix and match three corners and
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Speaker 8: two spots and move Witherspoon around like he did with
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Speaker 8: Josh Jovinriquelle last year. It allows him perhaps to blitz
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Speaker 8: up front more because they have one third of the
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Speaker 8: field often deep left. Take it away, but when you
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Speaker 8: only have to defend two thirds of the field schematically
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Speaker 8: in how you do the rest of defense, you had
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Speaker 8: an advantage over the offense. And that, to me is
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Speaker 8: a large reason why the Seahawks led the league in
21:42
Speaker 8: points allowed last year because of Devin Witherspoon.
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Speaker 1: Ariot's Greg Bell talking about Devin Witherspoon, he went on
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Speaker 1: to add a few more really interesting nuggets. Number One,
21:53
Speaker 1: he believes in his covering of the team that Spoon
21:57
Speaker 1: is Mike McDonald's personal favorite. Now Donald would never answer
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Speaker 1: that question, I'm sure, but that's just Greg's assessment as
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Speaker 1: somebody that's been around this team pretty much every day
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Speaker 1: during the football season and parts of the offseason as well.
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Speaker 1: That's his guy. That's his favorite guy. He's got a
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Speaker 1: lot of favorites, but that's the number one dog, Devin Witherspoon.
22:19
Speaker 1: We also talked about Devin Witherspoon in the in the durability.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he did miss some time this past year,
22:27
Speaker 1: now three seasons he's played forty seven games, you'll take that,
22:31
Speaker 1: but he's also missed a little bit of time. And
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Speaker 1: of course that's what we questioned when he was drafted
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Speaker 1: so highly coming out of college, all the way back
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Speaker 1: when Pete drafted him, and that was man for a
22:43
Speaker 1: guy that plays that aggressively. At one eighty five is
22:46
Speaker 1: what the program reads. Greg said, probably close to one
22:50
Speaker 1: to eighty one seventy five is what he actually weighs.
22:54
Speaker 1: I mean, how much longer can you do that, especially
22:57
Speaker 1: when you know seeing Puka nakuak couple of times per
23:01
Speaker 1: year and big physical receivers in this league, and he
23:03
Speaker 1: just throws his body around. So that's a little bit
23:06
Speaker 1: of concern, and it may be something that enters the
23:11
Speaker 1: equation when you're thinking about making him the highest paid
23:14
Speaker 1: defensive back in the entire National Football League, which they
23:17
Speaker 1: very well might do before the season gets underway. And then,
23:21
Speaker 1: of course, the third thing that Greg brought up that
23:23
Speaker 1: I think is worth mentioning is people that have connections
23:26
Speaker 1: to Illinois tend to be better than anyone else in
23:29
Speaker 1: the Midwest. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You don't need a contest to prove that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, So I thought that was interesting that he
23:34
Speaker 1: brought that up, that he initiated that point.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I apologize that I took out where he actually
23:38
Speaker 3: said that. Right, It was just time remember efficient, Remember.
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Speaker 1: When he said that, and he put Illinois way ahead
23:44
Speaker 1: of Ohio.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, remember it like a far superior state and the
23:47
Speaker 3: people that come from there are I was touching downs
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Speaker 3: ahead of Ohioians.
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Speaker 1: I was touched by that. I really was. And I
23:56
Speaker 1: also find it to be a one thousand percent true
23:59
Speaker 1: Greg's So we appreciate Greg being a part of the
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Speaker 1: Seahawks one series, and he really wanted to break down
24:05
Speaker 1: Devin Witherspoon and really did want to illustrate just how
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Speaker 1: valuable he thinks that he is to this team. I
24:11
Speaker 1: don't know if Devin Weather ever is going to be
24:14
Speaker 1: mentioned in a defensive Player of the Year race. I
24:18
Speaker 1: don't know about that. I have a feeling nick game
24:20
Speaker 1: and Warry's going to do some things statistically that probably
24:26
Speaker 1: are going to end up standing out even more so
24:28
Speaker 1: than what Devin Witherspoon does out on the football field.
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Speaker 1: Even Warri might be headed toward a career of accolades
24:36
Speaker 1: even more so than what Spoon's going to be. But
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Speaker 1: I think what we take away from that is, this
24:46
Speaker 1: is the value of this guy cannot be read on
24:49
Speaker 1: the stat sheet, and especially cornerbacks. Sometimes that doesn't even
24:53
Speaker 1: show up when you're watching it on the it's because
24:56
Speaker 1: of so how much he's taking away and how much
24:59
Speaker 1: he's forced seeing defense or offenses into doing things they
25:03
Speaker 1: don't want to do because of his presence. You know,
25:07
Speaker 1: sometimes we don't even pick up on that. And then
25:09
Speaker 1: you add the leadership aspect of it. He might be
25:12
Speaker 1: the leader of the defense. I mean, I know they've
25:14
Speaker 1: got a lot of Ernest Jones we just talked about
25:16
Speaker 1: with Softy earlier. I know they got Leonard Williams. I
25:19
Speaker 1: know DeMarcus Lawrence has turned into quite the leader in
25:22
Speaker 1: a very short period of time for this team. But
25:25
Speaker 1: Greg even went as far in our conversation yesterday to
25:27
Speaker 1: say he might be the leader, might be the leader
25:30
Speaker 1: of the defense, might be the leader of the team.
25:32
Speaker 1: He might be the voice of the team. So, I mean, again,
25:36
Speaker 1: just kind of like a full service piece that they
25:39
Speaker 1: have in Devin Witherspoon. And if any of that is
25:43
Speaker 1: true that I'm kind of laying out that there for you,
25:46
Speaker 1: you might understand why Mike McDonald makes him his favorite player.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it definitely makes sense.
25:52
Speaker 3: And I love to Greg talking about how he just
25:55
Speaker 3: kind of chirps at everybody and trash talks everybody and
26:00
Speaker 3: and gets the defense all riled up. I think it's
26:03
Speaker 3: all great. I mean, this team, we keep talking about
26:06
Speaker 3: the personalities and the people that want to be on
26:08
Speaker 3: this team and the people that play for this team
26:09
Speaker 3: and how they all fit together, and they all have
26:12
Speaker 3: their role they have to play, and I think Devin
26:15
Speaker 3: Weatherspoon plays a pretty important role for it.
26:18
Speaker 1: Sounds like he's already taken Bud Clark under his wing.
26:20
Speaker 1: Good He's the first guy to all of these workouts
26:24
Speaker 1: that they have in the off season. I mean, it's
26:27
Speaker 1: just a really it's a really great piece that they
26:30
Speaker 1: have found. Now they spent a lot on them. That's
26:32
Speaker 1: a big investment. Top five pick in the NFL draft.
26:36
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a huge investment. But man, he has
26:38
Speaker 1: been worth every bit of it. And he's going to
26:40
Speaker 1: get paid before the season gets started this year. And
26:43
Speaker 1: I'll say this, and this really does have ties to
26:46
Speaker 1: my Illinois background and his Illinois background. If I walked
26:50
Speaker 1: into a to buy a jersey and I'm not a jersey. Guy,
26:54
Speaker 1: I'm not Jackson Falt's. But so I don't have a
26:58
Speaker 1: single jersey of any player.
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Speaker 2: You couldn't wear one for every day of the World Cup.
27:03
Speaker 1: Right, all right? I couldn't do that. God bless you Jackson.
27:05
Speaker 2: I know he's the best.
27:07
Speaker 1: But if I walked into a Seahawks shop, You're like, hey,
27:11
Speaker 1: you have to get a jersey. Pick anyone you want.
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Speaker 1: I'm getting twenty one, I'm getting Spoon.
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Speaker 3: We had a raffle at Mill Creek a couple of
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Speaker 3: weeks ago for an event we did, and there was
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Speaker 3: a Witherspoon autograph jersey that was in the raffle, all
27:24
Speaker 3: the tickets in there. There was several items up for grabs.
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Speaker 3: That one was like the most coveted item of the night.
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Speaker 1: Well, if you love him there, he gives you a
27:33
Speaker 1: lot of reasons for it. Yeah, gives you a lot
27:35
Speaker 1: of reasons for it. All Right, One last thing comes
27:36
Speaker 1: your way next on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
27:46
Speaker 1: All right, one last thing to close out today, So
27:49
Speaker 1: Wednesday program, and this is where we just go round
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Speaker 1: the room, kind of a small room now for one
27:57
Speaker 1: last thing that's on our minds. What do you got, Ashley, Well.
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Speaker 3: You just mentioned you were excited for rain tomorrow, and
28:02
Speaker 3: I was thinking about this as well, because we've had
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Speaker 3: some hot days. And this is what I love about
28:06
Speaker 3: Seattle this time of year. Right, you get some really
28:08
Speaker 3: hot days and you get some rain, clean things out,
28:10
Speaker 3: cool things off.
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Speaker 2: Then you're ready for the hot weather again. Then you
28:13
Speaker 2: get some rain.
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Speaker 3: I only really get depressed, like some people get depressed
28:17
Speaker 3: here when it's gray and rainy in the winter. I
28:19
Speaker 3: only get depressed when we go like four weeks without
28:22
Speaker 3: rain in the summer.
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Speaker 2: Then I can't handle it.
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Speaker 1: I think it's long stretches of anything that's not great.
28:29
Speaker 2: Maybe that's it.
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Speaker 1: Even like I've not really had much problem with the
28:33
Speaker 1: weather since I moved here. But this past winter that
28:36
Speaker 1: was a long, rainy winter.
28:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see, it doesn't that.
28:39
Speaker 1: But it turned into a phenomenal spring. Yeah, so even
28:41
Speaker 1: that was worth it. But when you get like an
28:43
Speaker 1: extended heat where you get extended days of rain, but
28:47
Speaker 1: everybody has this wherever you go, every city's got this season.
28:50
Speaker 1: I was just talking the other day, like San Diego
28:53
Speaker 1: is known for, well that's the perfect weather. I disagree.
28:57
Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time in San Diego, and
28:59
Speaker 1: it kind of feels every day until it burns off,
29:04
Speaker 1: feels like you're living just outside the armpit, not in
29:07
Speaker 1: the armpit, but just like outside the arm You can
29:10
Speaker 1: feel the wave of the armpit because it's always like
29:13
Speaker 1: muggy and cloudy and gross, and then stuff burns out.
29:18
Speaker 2: Uh so you get that marine layer every morning.
29:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, So to me, any any exposure to an extended
29:25
Speaker 1: stretch of not ideal weather, whether it's too hot, too cold,
29:28
Speaker 1: too rainy to this, you're you're you're not gonna like that.
29:34
Speaker 1: But give give me a little bit of taste of it.
29:37
Speaker 1: You know what we got here. Give me three days
29:39
Speaker 1: of heat and then give me a few days of
29:41
Speaker 1: rain and then give me, yeah, give me back to
29:43
Speaker 1: seventy and partly cloudy. I'm all in.
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Speaker 3: The only request I would have though, if I mean,
29:48
Speaker 3: I think we can make weather requests right?
29:50
Speaker 1: Sure? Why not? Isave mother nature? First time? Long time? Yeah?
29:55
Speaker 1: Could I hear?
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Speaker 2: Could I hear a rain on Thursday and Friday?
29:59
Speaker 1: Sure?
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Speaker 3: But let's go sun on Saturday because I got a
30:02
Speaker 3: golf tournament to play in and I have to be
30:04
Speaker 3: outside all day.
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Speaker 1: Well, here's your long distance dead occasion. Thank you, dear
30:12
Speaker 1: dear mother Nature, who sounds just like Casey.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I picture my mother Nature.
30:19
Speaker 4: I am enjoying the sprinkling of different types of weather,
30:22
Speaker 4: but for Sunday and my golf event Saturday, Saturday, Saturday,
30:26
Speaker 4: in my golf event, could you please make it sunny
30:29
Speaker 4: and spectacular?
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Speaker 2: Seventy five is fine?
30:32
Speaker 1: I listen every week. Thanks Mother Nature.
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Speaker 2: That's all I'm asking.
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Speaker 4: All Right, Ashley, here's your long distance weather dead occasia.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad I put that request in. All Right, ladies,
30:43
Speaker 2: we're gonna be fine. Weather's gonna be great.
30:47
Speaker 1: We got this. Huh. All right. My one last thing,
30:50
Speaker 1: speaking of ladies, what on earth is happening in the
30:55
Speaker 1: sports slash sports talk world that Becky Hammond is being
31:00
Speaker 1: asked to apologize for her opinion about Jalen Brunson. Okay, yeah,
31:08
Speaker 1: I mean it's everywhere because she said she doesn't think
31:12
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson will ever be able to win a championship
31:15
Speaker 1: if as long as he's the best player on the team. Okay,
31:20
Speaker 1: and she thinks that in order for that to happen,
31:24
Speaker 1: he's too small. Like those are outlier types, Those are
31:27
Speaker 1: Steph Curry's and those guys, let's face it, are special
31:30
Speaker 1: and she didn't put Jalen Brunson in the special category. Well,
31:34
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson proved her and a lot of people wrong
31:37
Speaker 1: in this postseason and he's a great champion and man
31:40
Speaker 1: is he an admirable, fierce competitor. And so he won
31:46
Speaker 1: a championship and Becky Hammond was happy for him. But
31:50
Speaker 1: now it's like people are asking her to apologize. It's like,
31:54
Speaker 1: wait a minute. She had a job as an analyst
31:58
Speaker 1: for the NBA. She's the coach of the Las Vegas Aces,
32:02
Speaker 1: by the way, but she does some NBA and analysts work,
32:05
Speaker 1: and she used to be with the San Antonio Spurs
32:08
Speaker 1: as an assistant, so she was hired to have an opinion,
32:11
Speaker 1: and she had a strong opinion about what it takes
32:13
Speaker 1: to win a championship, having, you know, been with the
32:17
Speaker 1: Spurs and won some championships, so that was her opinion.
32:22
Speaker 1: We miss all the time, fans miss sports talk show hosts,
32:25
Speaker 1: miss coaches, miss general managers, miss owners, miss players, miss
32:30
Speaker 1: we all miss. Why is Becky Hammond of all people
32:35
Speaker 1: being brought to bear because she didn't and she since
32:41
Speaker 1: copped to it, Like, I didn't think Jalen Bronson was
32:44
Speaker 1: one of those Steph Curry top outliars, but he's proven
32:47
Speaker 1: to be that. But no, I'm not going to apologize
32:49
Speaker 1: to anyone for having a strong opinion and then supporting
32:53
Speaker 1: it with details and information and facts. So I don't
32:57
Speaker 1: know why it's front page news her criticism of Jalen Brunson,
33:02
Speaker 1: and plenty of people had that Why is she being
33:05
Speaker 1: picked on? Why is she being made an example of?
33:09
Speaker 1: It's not fair. It is simply not fair. Get off
33:12
Speaker 1: of her back. She's really good at coaching basketball, analyzing basketball,
33:18
Speaker 1: and it's silly. She's not the only person that had
33:20
Speaker 1: that opinion. And good for Jalen Brunson, he pulled proved
33:23
Speaker 1: all of his critics wrong.
33:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome, But you can't have it both ways either.
33:27
Speaker 3: You can't have people have a strong opinion and then
33:30
Speaker 3: when they're strong opinion, when they're wrong on it, make
33:32
Speaker 3: them apologize because or else they won't have a strong
33:35
Speaker 3: opinion anymore.
33:37
Speaker 2: Which what do you want?
33:38
Speaker 1: Our jobs and radio TV if we are giving a
33:41
Speaker 1: microphone and we are our sports opinions are put out there.
33:45
Speaker 1: Our jobs are to have an opinion and then to
33:50
Speaker 1: support that opinion. And we know every time that we
33:53
Speaker 1: put ourselves out there, there's a chance we're going to
33:56
Speaker 1: be proven wrong by the sports world by an athlete
33:58
Speaker 1: who overachieves or overcomes somebody that we didn't think was
34:03
Speaker 1: very good and they ended up being great. No, that's
34:06
Speaker 1: going to happen. It's never not going to happen. So
34:09
Speaker 1: she does not owe anyone an apology. But she did
34:14
Speaker 1: need to probably be asked about her comments, which she answered,
34:18
Speaker 1: and she answered them, well, so please stop get off
34:22
Speaker 1: back Becky Hammond's butt. All right. That'll do it for
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34:27
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