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Lance Lynn on why he retired but could return? Offers received, White Sox org thoughts · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Obviously Chicago is behind everybody. I'm not trying to be
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Speaker 1: negative or.
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Speaker 2: Anything like that.
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Speaker 3: You're being honest.
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Speaker 2: It's just the honest truth.
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Speaker 4: We've got Lance Lynn joining us right now. We've spoken
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Speaker 4: to him a lot over the past couple of years.
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Speaker 4: Is the first time we're talking to him as a
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Speaker 4: retired MLB player. So congrats to you, Lance. I know
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Speaker 4: you announced it a few days ago. Congratulations an incredible career.
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Speaker 4: Appreciate having you on right after it. So good to
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Speaker 4: see you first take us through it.
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Speaker 5: Man.
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Speaker 4: I mean we spoke to you maybe a month ago,
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Speaker 4: but one went through the decision as you were obviously
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Speaker 4: talking to some teams but not feeling like it was right.
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean, I appreciate it, and thanks for
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Speaker 1: having me. You started, like, here's the gist of it.
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Speaker 1: I started making plans and they didn't involve baseball, so
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Speaker 1: it was pretty obvious the choice to make. I was
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Speaker 1: enjoying being at home. The numbers the teams weren't lining up.
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Speaker 1: So the way I looked at it was, there's no
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Speaker 1: good time to retire, so why not try to force
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Speaker 1: something to be miserable and if that's your last year,
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Speaker 1: that wouldn't have been fun. So you know, I enjoyed
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Speaker 1: my last year in Saint Louis. My family was there,
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Speaker 1: everybody was there. My last start. My last start was
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Speaker 1: in Bush Stadium and a win. So it was like
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Speaker 1: you started to look at it that way. It was like,
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Speaker 1: you know, just go enjoy your life. That was That
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Speaker 1: was pretty much it.
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Speaker 3: I'm mad at you a little bit, not really, but
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Speaker 3: I'm mad at You've already learned one thing about being retired.
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Speaker 3: It's listen to your wife. So instead of coming on
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Speaker 3: here to announce it, you went on your wife's podcast,
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Speaker 3: Diamond in the Rough. So that was smart. That was
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Speaker 3: your first good step into retirement. Now what you're gonna
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Speaker 3: have to learn is you just have to do everything
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Speaker 3: she says, no matter what, no matter how much you
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Speaker 3: don't want to do. When she says take out the garbage,
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Speaker 3: you don't say when it is now planned. So just
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Speaker 3: know that going forward for the rest of your life,
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Speaker 3: you're stuck.
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Speaker 2: No, I got it. I just had it.
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Speaker 1: I told her I needed fifteen to twenty minutes real
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Speaker 1: quick while I'm cleaning out the garage to come do this,
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Speaker 1: and then I'm back at it.
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Speaker 6: That's right.
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Speaker 3: You're right back to work. And by the way, there's
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Speaker 3: no more road trips. There's no more I got to
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Speaker 3: go to the field. There's no more. Honey, I'm pitching today.
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Speaker 3: I can't do that. It is all hands on deck, kids,
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Speaker 3: no kids whatever, she asks, bow down lands.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm ready.
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Speaker 1: Uh you know, I got a tea time tomorrow at
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Speaker 1: eleven though, so that's already been on the books for
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Speaker 1: a week, so I get a plan ahead these days.
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Speaker 1: You know, when school's in schools at well, when soccer
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Speaker 1: practice is, when games are all that good stuff. So uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, get on a schedule and everybody is working,
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Speaker 1: working nicely together so far.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to get in line, for sure.
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Speaker 1: But the boxes of old gear even know how you
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Speaker 1: just grab a bag at the end of the year
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Speaker 1: and it just sits in your garage until you're retired.
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Speaker 1: She's like, hey, you're retired, it's time to clean up
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Speaker 1: all this crap now.
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Speaker 6: And where's it going? Where's all that stuff going?
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Speaker 2: I got to see what I want to keep.
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Speaker 1: Uh, you know what family members might want, like you know,
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Speaker 1: the extra like shirts that you just worked out in
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Speaker 1: during year whatever, all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: Wash them up.
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Speaker 1: See which family member wants them and go from there,
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Speaker 1: and then stuff that might mean something you keep it.
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Speaker 7: Is there something that you couldn't do when you played
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Speaker 7: that's already on the schedule that you're gonna go do?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we we've already looked at the Kentucky Derby.
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Speaker 1: I'm gotta I'm in a fishing tournament next weekend. I've
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Speaker 1: got fortunely plans already. I'm like, man, this is what
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Speaker 1: summer's all about. I've never had a summer in my life,
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Speaker 1: it feels like. So I'm looking forward to the ability
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Speaker 1: to do things that you miss out on when you're playing, because,
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Speaker 1: as everybody knows, you don't get a chance to do
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Speaker 1: anything except for that one off day, which is a
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Speaker 1: Monday or Thursday. And if it's a Monday, usually golf
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Speaker 1: course they're closed, so that's the worst off day of
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Speaker 1: the week.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm looking forward to a lot of stuff
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Speaker 2: this summer.
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Speaker 3: Lance have you been throwing What if someone calls you
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Speaker 3: and says, hey, you know, we're starters down, we need help.
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Speaker 6: What if someone keep throwing up?
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Speaker 3: My price keeps your price can't keep going up if
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Speaker 3: the season keeps getting shorter, Sure, guys keep getting hurt,
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Speaker 3: and then there's a lot of below average starters out
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Speaker 3: there and a lot of rotations, so you never know
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Speaker 3: and argue that all I know is I can be bought,
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Speaker 3: but ain't nobody come to the table with enough money
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Speaker 3: to buy me out of leaving the house. Shit, It's
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Speaker 3: like the old dog that gets to come inside for
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Speaker 3: the first time ever.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't want to go back out. You know, I'm
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Speaker 2: enjoying it right now.
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Speaker 3: Million dollar man said, everyone has a price, land, so
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Speaker 3: make sure whatever that price is.
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Speaker 2: And I promise it's not a million dollars for the
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Speaker 2: rest of the year.
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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, that's fair.
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Speaker 5: That's what it was. I don't know what was getting.
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I ask him what he was getting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of a lot of one for fours.
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Speaker 1: And then they were like oh. I was like, well,
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Speaker 1: if you want to play half the season, then I'll
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Speaker 1: show up and into June and then be ready for
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Speaker 1: July on. And then a couple of teams were like, actually,
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Speaker 1: that sounds like a good idea, and I was like, well,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna at least joy fourth of July, so we're
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Speaker 1: gonna do it from there. So just didn't playing out
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Speaker 1: or didn't you know. And to be honest, the teams
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Speaker 1: and the places that we're calling weren't really ideal either,
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Speaker 1: because there were a lot of teams that, hey, come
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Speaker 1: help these young kids and then we'll trade you at
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Speaker 1: the deadline. It's like, man, that's not It's not where
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Speaker 1: I'm at in my career and I don't have to
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Speaker 1: be so stay at home.
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Speaker 6: So you're saying, there's a chance, we heard you, We
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Speaker 6: heard you. I get it. There's my money.
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Speaker 2: Nah, right as right now, there's zero chance.
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Speaker 6: Okay, but you lost all that weight, are you like?
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Speaker 7: You know what, I'm gonna keep this weight off so
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Speaker 7: that my fourth first fourth of July cookout. I'm looking good,
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Speaker 7: Lance or are you like? First thing I did as
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Speaker 7: soon as I went on, got off a diamond on
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Speaker 7: the rough. I'm going I'm going to the burger joint.
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Speaker 1: No, first thing I did is you got to get
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Speaker 1: ready for boating season. So no, you're keeping it off.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 1: You know, I feel good physically and I've not felt
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Speaker 1: this way in a long time. So to be able to,
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Speaker 1: you know, be pain free and doing everything was another
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Speaker 1: thing too.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 1: Everybody knows when you play and you go through the grind,
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Speaker 1: you know, the pains come back. I was enjoying not
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Speaker 1: being in pain. Uh, so I'm in a good spot
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Speaker 1: right now. Uh to go live my life, enjoy my kids,
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Speaker 1: be able to play with them, do all that. And
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Speaker 1: I ended in a place that, uh, you know, I
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Speaker 1: can hang my hat on and you know, enjoy that ending.
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Speaker 1: So that was a that was a lot of the
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Speaker 1: reasons to you know, to be.
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Speaker 2: Done ft fam.
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Speaker 3: Your kids sucked shocked when you didn't leave for spring
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Speaker 3: training where your kids like, Dad, You're not supposed to
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Speaker 3: be here, get out.
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, my six year old I
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Speaker 1: kept asking her, Hey, you want dad to go play?
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Speaker 1: And she kept saying no, and then like it never changed,
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Speaker 1: and like the week before I truly decided to be done,
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Speaker 1: I asked her again because I was like, you know,
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Speaker 1: you asked her when they're happy with you, if you're
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Speaker 1: buying a toy, you ask them when they're mad when
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Speaker 1: you take the toy away. Because they weren't acting right, Hey,
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Speaker 1: you want dad to go play? And she kept saying no.
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Speaker 1: One way to stay so and it made it a
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Speaker 1: lot easier.
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Speaker 6: Too, since you made the decision.
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Speaker 7: What are some of the first things that you thought
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Speaker 7: back on you had already mentioned, you know, you won
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Speaker 7: your last start all this stuff, but what are the
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Speaker 7: what are the first things that you like think back
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Speaker 7: on your career and.
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Speaker 3: You're like, that's a memory that I'll never forget.
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Speaker 2: There's a bunch you look back at.
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Speaker 1: You know, I was going through some stuff the other
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Speaker 1: day and saw the World Series jerseys, the World Series ring,
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Speaker 1: you know, like kind of getting everything lined up that
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Speaker 1: you know was in the safe used to start.
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Speaker 2: You start moving.
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Speaker 1: Things around, You're like, man, a lot of memories pop
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Speaker 1: up and then you just think fondly of them, you know,
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Speaker 1: and then you start thinking about teammates. You know, I've
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Speaker 1: had some good ones. I've had some real tough ones,
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Speaker 1: I would say another word, and one of them is
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Speaker 1: on this show right now. But you know, I've been
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Speaker 1: blessed in this game to play for great organizations, have
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Speaker 1: great teammates, and have a lot of success, and you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm very happy with my career.
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Speaker 2: And you know, it was you know, you never want
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Speaker 2: it to be done.
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Speaker 1: But sometimes it's feels good to just be done with
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Speaker 1: it and say, hey, what's the next chapter in life?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry, you play with Crawts. That must have
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Speaker 3: been along. It must have been a long forty eight
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Speaker 3: hours that you play with Crawts.
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Speaker 1: If I didn't know, do we ever even cross pass
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Speaker 1: on a forty eight hour.
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Speaker 2: Basis crafty? I don't think. So we played against each
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Speaker 2: other on every every team you've been.
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Speaker 7: On, we played, We played against I played a couple
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Speaker 7: of teams that you played played with A. J is
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Speaker 7: the only bad teammate on this show.
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Speaker 6: So there's that.
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Speaker 7: So we knew, we know who you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: Hey, AJ, you can always learn something from everybody, and
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Speaker 1: I learned a lot from AJ.
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Speaker 3: So he learned, you know what he learned. He learned
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Speaker 3: that a lot of St.
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Speaker 6: Louis, That's what he learned.
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Speaker 3: He learned, He learned a lot of things in that
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Speaker 3: in that three months, man in Saint Louis, we had
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Speaker 3: a lot of We had a lot of long chats.
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Speaker 3: Lance and I about.
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Speaker 1: Thinking, got yourself kicked off two teams that year. I've
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Speaker 1: never seen it happen with Boston and in single.
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Speaker 3: This but countries to get kicked off like five teams
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Speaker 3: of years and don't bring that on me.
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Speaker 7: That was a run one year. No, No, that was
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Speaker 7: exit Velocity. That's when exit Velocity started coming into play,
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Speaker 7: and I just exited a lot of teams really fast,
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Speaker 7: and I thought that's what they meant, like I had
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Speaker 7: to exit the team, exit the clubhouse. So I got
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Speaker 7: to figure it out later on. But yeah, no, no,
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Speaker 7: don't don't put me into your bad team.
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Speaker 3: I gotta ask Lances and he'll get this story. Did
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Speaker 3: Mike Metheni your last start in Saint Louis come up
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Speaker 3: to you and say, Lance, You've had a great career.
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Speaker 2: Uh?
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Speaker 1: Did he call me like something was something was said
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Speaker 1: in my last start in Saint Louis that first time around. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I don't think it was a great career. It's like, hey,
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Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen, uh business wise and
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Speaker 1: all that. I want to tell you you've had a
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Speaker 1: great run here in Saint Louis at this point.
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Speaker 3: Because you were there when No. Okay, now listen, there's
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Speaker 3: background this story.
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Speaker 1: So when I played for we were already eliminated from
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Speaker 1: the playoffs and everything, so there was a lot of
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Speaker 1: like sentimental stuff going on because we didn't know what
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Speaker 1: free agency was going to hold.
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Speaker 2: It was. It was a weird time.
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Speaker 3: So So the backstory is when I was with the Cardinals,
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Speaker 3: we were in San Francisco and we lose to the Giants.
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Speaker 3: We get walked out by Ishikawa, loose and then I
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Speaker 3: don't know what in the in the and I'll see
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Speaker 3: us METHENI comes up to me and goes, and Lance
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Speaker 3: was standing right there. I'll never get it was in
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Speaker 3: the weight room, and he goes, I just want you
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Speaker 3: to know you've had a great career. And I looked
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Speaker 3: at him and I was like, what the eff are
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Speaker 3: you talking about. I don't know that I'm quitting playing yet.
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Speaker 6: And he hated you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, because he was tired of looking at you.
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Speaker 6: I get that.
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Speaker 3: I can't blame him because I was actually like he
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Speaker 3: would come up to me and say things like that
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Speaker 3: was a good throw, and I would look at him
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Speaker 3: be like, coach Mike, and I'm really good if you
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Speaker 3: just let me play and get out of my way.
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Speaker 3: But he never wanted to do that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I played this game for a little bit as
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Speaker 1: I'm being all right, No, I didn't get the you know,
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Speaker 1: good career. I got the hey, you've had a heck
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Speaker 1: of running. Here in Saint Louis, we don't know what
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Speaker 1: it's going to be free agency, So you know that
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Speaker 1: was pretty much.
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Speaker 2: That was pretty much it.
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Speaker 1: I did get a text from him saying congrats on
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Speaker 1: a great career, but I already announced my retirement.
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Speaker 2: So at least at least you learned something. At least
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Speaker 2: I thought him something too. You taught him not to
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Speaker 2: wait till the guy officially announces it.
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Speaker 7: That's fair lance. Now we bring up all the good stuff.
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Speaker 7: How did you feel about your hitting career? Like we
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Speaker 7: have stats here, like do you know how many doubles
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Speaker 7: you had?
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Speaker 2: Like three?
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Speaker 6: Five? Fine stakes? How mistakes did you have?
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Speaker 2: Maybe eight?
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Speaker 7: Seven? Okay, now here's a big one. Out of two
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Speaker 7: hundred and eighty three at bats, how many times you
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Speaker 7: think he punched out?
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Speaker 6: This is a phenomenal number.
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Speaker 1: To eighty three. Yeah, at bad So I'm talking, I'm
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Speaker 1: taking like two hundred and thirty five punch.
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Speaker 6: Outs, one hundred and fifty nine.
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Speaker 2: Oh man, I felt like I was.
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Speaker 1: There was times I was up there with no intention
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Speaker 1: of swinging at all, and a couple of times I walked,
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Speaker 1: and then most times I punched out. Yeah, most times
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Speaker 1: I punched out. I went out there to run the
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Speaker 1: bases and one hundred degree weather in Saint Louis.
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Speaker 2: There was no chance in hell of that.
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Speaker 6: I would have never said this.
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Speaker 7: I thought, like watching you on the mound, always watching
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Speaker 7: you compete, moving around, I'm like, definitely athlete. You know
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Speaker 7: some pictures they like you hope the balls and hit
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Speaker 7: them because they're gonna do it, and you wouldn't do that.
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Speaker 2: I do have.
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Speaker 1: I do have hits from both sides of the plate, though,
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Speaker 1: and I didn't start switch hitting to like six years in.
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Speaker 6: So there you go, there you go, there you go.
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Speaker 1: But no doubt I could. I could home runs from
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Speaker 1: both sides of the plate and VP I could do
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Speaker 1: it all. But you get in a game and it
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Speaker 1: was hey, take the first strike. I was like, cool,
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Speaker 1: thanks for the punch out.
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Speaker 2: Skip.
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Speaker 1: You don't get a swing at the first pitch, I'm
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Speaker 1: done right away. Everybody else gets to but not me.
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Speaker 3: That's because they realized you couldn't hit. You're more of
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Speaker 3: an American League guy. You know where they needed a
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Speaker 3: DH for you care No.
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Speaker 2: I when it went DH through the whole leaguees I was.
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Speaker 1: I loved it. I was like, man, you could have
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Speaker 1: done this. Early on in my career. I remember just
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Speaker 1: how bad it hurt. When I came back from Tommy
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Speaker 1: John just to try to swing a bat, and I
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Speaker 1: was like, man, I'm here to pitch and I got
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Speaker 1: to swing and it hurts.
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Speaker 2: So I was like, this is this is ridiculous?
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Speaker 6: That hitting's hard?
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Speaker 3: That's hitting hard? Is there any stories you can tell
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Speaker 3: now that you're done playing that you wouldn't be able
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Speaker 3: to tell us before?
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Speaker 1: I know, because you know me, I would never do that.
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Speaker 1: If it's not meant to be said while you're playing,
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Speaker 1: it's not meant to be said.
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Speaker 6: Ever.
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Speaker 2: That's great out there, but I will say this to
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Speaker 2: tell rest in peace.
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Speaker 1: He was one of the I had him in twenty
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Speaker 1: eleven when I was a rookie and I was in
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Speaker 1: the bullpen with him, and I just want to you know,
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Speaker 1: my heart's out to him and his family. He was
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Speaker 1: an amazing teammate, amazing person and so much fun to
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Speaker 1: be around. I don't know if you guy's got to
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Speaker 1: play with him, but man, he was.
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Speaker 2: He was awesome.
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Speaker 3: I had him two years to two eight one nine,
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Speaker 3: I think, and yesterday I talked about him. Obviously he
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Speaker 3: was incredible. I mean, he did was he He was
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Speaker 3: always smiling, always dancing, always laughing, always listening to music,
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Speaker 3: always the last one at the ballpark. Buzz is here
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Speaker 3: out and I said there screaming as soon as you
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Speaker 3: it'd be like five o'clock, like buzzes here, Like don't
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Speaker 3: hear come get in at five.
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Speaker 1: He'd get in at five, go do all this stuff,
15:17
Speaker 1: and then he makes to the uh make it to
15:19
Speaker 1: the bullpen by the fifth inning. One time in eleven,
15:22
Speaker 1: Uh they called to bring him in the third and
15:25
Speaker 1: how he was sitting in the clubhouse, not even no
15:29
Speaker 1: clothes on, and uh, I don't remember who it was,
15:32
Speaker 1: but they had to run out and tell the rooster,
15:33
Speaker 1: be like, hey, he's not ready yet, you guys, get
15:36
Speaker 1: somebody else up.
15:38
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I said yesterday, I said. He would
15:42
Speaker 3: do so many things that would get people mad, and
15:43
Speaker 3: then he would come in and smile and say something
15:45
Speaker 3: and everyone forgive all the dumb stuff he had done
15:48
Speaker 3: like that right, like that was just the kind of
15:49
Speaker 3: person he was. It was incredible he would do all
15:51
Speaker 3: these I mean, I forget one time we saw him
15:53
Speaker 3: in the hotel and you know, God, rest in peace, Octavia.
15:57
Speaker 3: You're just sitting there drinking wine, smoking a cigar, it's
15:59
Speaker 3: like eleven am to twelve o'clock, you know for the games,
16:01
Speaker 3: like I'll be ready in the seventh poppy, don't worry
16:04
Speaker 3: if he comes out, punches out the side.
16:07
Speaker 6: What the It.
16:08
Speaker 3: Was awesome, It was unbelievable. Don't recommend that for anybody.
16:11
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, like for him at work.
16:13
Speaker 5: And they don't make them like that anymore, No, they
16:16
Speaker 5: definitely do.
16:16
Speaker 6: Not.
16:17
Speaker 2: Well, you're not allowed to either.
16:18
Speaker 1: Some guys have a great skit like that too, if
16:20
Speaker 1: you'd let them. But too much, too much seriousness anymore.
16:25
Speaker 5: Why is that? Why did it get so serious?
16:29
Speaker 1: There's a lot of money being thrown around now, so
16:31
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta, you gotta act act right, a
16:34
Speaker 1: lot more, a lot more eyes on you and things
16:37
Speaker 1: of that nature too. So uh, you know, you get
16:40
Speaker 1: paid a lot of money to play a game, so
16:42
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta till the line.
16:45
Speaker 7: There's too many coaches now, there's too many coaches that
16:48
Speaker 7: have to answer for why why they're third starter. Their
16:53
Speaker 7: fifth bullpen guy is in is in the lobby at
16:57
Speaker 7: twelve o'clock sipping on some red wine.
17:00
Speaker 2: Right, that's true.
17:01
Speaker 1: And the fact that there's so many coaches and staff
17:03
Speaker 1: nowadays that you can't even get a seat on the
17:05
Speaker 1: bus because they all have their own It's just ridiculous.
17:08
Speaker 1: The players be doubled up in the back. Why all
17:10
Speaker 1: the coaches and everybody have their own seat. It's special
17:14
Speaker 1: you're there for them. It used to be they were
17:16
Speaker 1: there for you. Nowadays it's hey, you're there for them.
17:20
Speaker 7: They all they all get their own seat, they all
17:22
Speaker 7: get their own row.
17:23
Speaker 6: On the plane. Would you coach?
17:25
Speaker 3: Would you coach if the right you guys are good?
17:29
Speaker 6: Yeah? Would Would you?
17:30
Speaker 7: Would you coach in the big leagues if the right
17:33
Speaker 7: people asked?
17:34
Speaker 5: No?
17:35
Speaker 2: You how much?
17:35
Speaker 1: Just bs you have to deal with first thing, Sirsty,
17:38
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to deal with a catcher like AJ
17:41
Speaker 1: and a pitcher like me going over at a pre
17:43
Speaker 1: game like batting order. And I'm but in all honesty,
17:47
Speaker 1: if you had somebody like myself and AJ, you don't
17:49
Speaker 1: even have to do that because they know what the
17:51
Speaker 1: hell they're doing. So, but that being said, you get
17:54
Speaker 1: some of the young kids that come up and they
17:55
Speaker 1: either don't have an idea what they're doing, or they
17:57
Speaker 1: think they have an idea what they're doing, and all
17:59
Speaker 1: they know how to do is make it spin fast
18:01
Speaker 1: and go sideways.
18:02
Speaker 2: But they don't know how to set it up or
18:03
Speaker 2: get anybody out.
18:04
Speaker 1: So between that not getting paid enough and being there
18:08
Speaker 1: way too long and being away from a family, being
18:10
Speaker 1: a major league coaches is not in the cards for me, all.
18:13
Speaker 3: Right, So coaching's out. But we know you have diamond
18:16
Speaker 3: in the rough. But what about ft? I mean, you're
18:18
Speaker 3: already one of our regulars. Are you gonna come on
18:20
Speaker 3: and be a regular here with us or what? I
18:23
Speaker 3: don't know, my heart if you say yes, I don't
18:24
Speaker 3: know if my heart can handle that. I mean, you
18:26
Speaker 3: and rowdy, I just don't know.
18:28
Speaker 1: I'm in that boat where Right now, I'm gonna enjoy
18:31
Speaker 1: my time and see where it takes me. You know,
18:34
Speaker 1: baseball has been great to me, and I've done it forever, right,
18:36
Speaker 1: I don't remember the last time I've not played baseball
18:39
Speaker 1: year round, right, or done sports year round. So right now,
18:42
Speaker 1: it's family time, enjoying, catching up on the things that
18:46
Speaker 1: I've gotten to miss, and then see just what's there
18:48
Speaker 1: and what you know, what could be fun moving forward.
18:51
Speaker 1: I'd love to stay involved in the game, talk about it.
18:54
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. You know, we have stories, we can
18:56
Speaker 1: do all this stuff. So see what's available, to see
18:59
Speaker 1: what's there and go from there.
19:01
Speaker 4: Lance question for you, can you give us a glimpse
19:06
Speaker 4: of the difference of organizations. I'll let you just pick
19:09
Speaker 4: from from any of them to just give us like
19:11
Speaker 4: one difference, right, because you really went all over the
19:13
Speaker 4: place in terms of like how places run, and people
19:16
Speaker 4: like you are the only ones that can actually explain.
19:18
Speaker 4: Next you're fresh off the field, right, like difference between
19:22
Speaker 4: you know, Cardinals, White Sox, Dodgers, Yankees, et cetera. Just
19:26
Speaker 4: if you can point out one or two things where
19:28
Speaker 4: you're like, this is the biggest thing that I would
19:30
Speaker 4: tell a player.
19:30
Speaker 5: Like you're going to see this here and they don't
19:33
Speaker 5: do that here.
19:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say so in the in the gist
19:37
Speaker 1: of it, when you're with the Dodgers and the Yankees
19:40
Speaker 1: at that point in my career, their ability to uh,
19:46
Speaker 1: everything that you would need as a player and on
19:49
Speaker 1: and off the field, they were you know, they got
19:53
Speaker 1: they had it all covered. But they also their ability
19:55
Speaker 1: to teach what they wanted to teach, whether it's just sabermetrics,
20:01
Speaker 1: anything and everything, but they taught it. They taught you
20:04
Speaker 1: how to be you. I guess it's a simple way
20:06
Speaker 1: to say it. And that's why I think you see
20:09
Speaker 1: those guys showing up with the ability to play. When
20:11
Speaker 1: I first came up in Saint Louis, sabermetrics weren't there yet.
20:15
Speaker 2: It was there was a way to play. They called
20:17
Speaker 2: it the Cardinal way.
20:18
Speaker 1: But the cardinal way when I first came up was
20:20
Speaker 1: played the game hard, leave it all out on the field,
20:22
Speaker 1: and be there for your teammates. And then it turned
20:24
Speaker 1: into a bunch of bunch of other stuff that really
20:26
Speaker 1: didn't matter on how you played or how you competed
20:28
Speaker 1: or anything like that. It was more off the field stuff,
20:32
Speaker 1: which you know, I think you saw them try to
20:35
Speaker 1: go the sabermetric way, and then you go one way
20:38
Speaker 1: too far. Then you got to figure out how to
20:40
Speaker 1: get back in the middle. And I think that you're
20:42
Speaker 1: seeing that now with Saint Louis this year, with what
20:44
Speaker 1: they're doing with their kind of their revamp organizationally. And
20:48
Speaker 1: then you you know, Minnesota was in the boat of
20:51
Speaker 1: trying to step up, and then I think when Correa
20:55
Speaker 1: got there, he really helped them and Sonny Gray, those
20:58
Speaker 1: two together really helped them take their UH organization to
21:01
Speaker 1: the next level, especially at the big league level, and
21:04
Speaker 1: you have like your Nelson cruises and those those guys
21:06
Speaker 1: that were you know, they're really in tune to the
21:09
Speaker 1: things that you know, kept getting an edge and sabermetrics
21:13
Speaker 1: and video and stuff like that really took them to
21:14
Speaker 1: the next level. And then when it comes to UH,
21:19
Speaker 1: Texas was was there with everything. Woody brought a lot
21:22
Speaker 1: of things over from the Dodgers, so then you're starting
21:25
Speaker 1: to see what he built. And then Boach came in
21:27
Speaker 1: with a with you know, his pedigree as a manager
21:30
Speaker 1: and World Series and this and that to really take
21:32
Speaker 1: them to the to where they're at. So that was
21:34
Speaker 1: already kind of being built. And then obviously Chicago is
21:38
Speaker 1: behind everybody. I enjoyed people, I really, you know, there's
21:43
Speaker 1: no I'm not trying to be negative.
21:45
Speaker 2: Or anything like that.
21:46
Speaker 1: It's just it's just the honest truth. Like there's some
21:50
Speaker 1: great people there. A Jing knows all of those those people.
21:53
Speaker 1: There's a lot of great people there. But when it
21:55
Speaker 1: comes to top to bottom organizationally, like.
21:58
Speaker 2: Even minor leagues come up.
22:00
Speaker 1: I went down and spent a month rehabbing my knee there,
22:03
Speaker 1: and I stayed with the Triple A team, uh for
22:05
Speaker 1: the whole time and just seeing the way that things.
22:08
Speaker 2: Were going about and stuff like that. Uh, there definitely.
22:12
Speaker 1: Needs to be some changes, and there's still probably needs
22:16
Speaker 1: to be some changes just by going off of some
22:18
Speaker 1: of the things I've heard and seen.
22:22
Speaker 3: All right, that's perfect. By the way, before we let
22:24
Speaker 3: you go, I know you're in your golf some room
22:26
Speaker 3: and we have to get the break producer video strangle me.
22:28
Speaker 3: But no golf clubs? What kind of golf clubs? Because
22:31
Speaker 3: I know a guy that gets your p XG deal.
22:33
Speaker 1: I'm just I've got I've got to send a PXCS
22:36
Speaker 1: right here so I could use that. I could use
22:37
Speaker 1: that new set, so I can send my inspects and
22:40
Speaker 1: give me some new ones. We can put a nice
22:43
Speaker 1: we can put a nice PhD sign. Where's right here,
22:45
Speaker 1: so you be right there for me. I'm doing my show.
22:48
Speaker 1: So if you got a guy, someone call me. I
22:50
Speaker 1: love golf books.
22:52
Speaker 6: Do let me. Do I have to call you?
22:54
Speaker 3: Do I have to call you?
22:55
Speaker 2: Can you can touch me?
22:56
Speaker 6: Okay?
22:57
Speaker 2: Thanks?
23:01
Speaker 5: You know.
23:02
Speaker 2: One of the best part about having a golf.
23:04
Speaker 1: Simulator and retirement is your tea time is always safe.
23:07
Speaker 2: I love it.
23:08
Speaker 5: Mm hmm, that's true. Yes, you are very yep, yep.
23:13
Speaker 3: If Scott ever got his stuff out of this, whom
23:15
Speaker 3: I can put a golf simulator in here.
23:20
Speaker 6: Doesn't at home, doesn't needs to be out.
23:24
Speaker 5: You want to hit the course, you don't want to
23:26
Speaker 5: do it at home, of course.
23:27
Speaker 6: I like to be outside.
23:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Lance, enjoy your next tea time. Yeah, next
23:32
Speaker 4: time we have you on, you'll be all sponsored up
23:34
Speaker 4: like a NASCAR car and we'll talk to you then.
23:37
Speaker 2: All right, sounds good, guys, Thanks for having me.
23:40
Speaker 5: That was good.
23:41
Speaker 6: Always good with Lance.
23:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know a lot of you were asking Lance
23:46
Speaker 4: that tea we tried. I think what happens is, first off,
23:50
Speaker 4: you want to take a little break from the grind.
23:56
Speaker 4: And then also, if you're commentating on baseball, you know
24:00
Speaker 4: this because you've worked with people that enter.
24:02
Speaker 5: You gotta know your shit.
24:04
Speaker 6: Baseball to keep up with pay attention.
24:07
Speaker 5: That's the thing. I mean.
24:07
Speaker 4: I've worked with a ton of I've worked with probably
24:11
Speaker 4: a couple hundred different former players as broadcasters. There's one
24:14
Speaker 4: season I called games, and every week they'd give us
24:16
Speaker 4: a new set of broadcasters, and sometimes I'd be like, oh,
24:20
Speaker 4: you're not.
24:20
Speaker 5: Watching you can tell going on. I'm like, you don't
24:23
Speaker 5: know who this guy is, do you?
24:25
Speaker 6: Yeah?
24:26
Speaker 4: So the key to success in my mind in baseball
24:29
Speaker 4: broadcasting is have screens everywhere, so that you always have
24:34
Speaker 4: baseball on in your car, in your bathroom, even if
24:37
Speaker 4: you're small.
24:38
Speaker 5: Pretty much that is helpful.
24:41
Speaker 3: You have to do cars, bathroom, showers. I have screens everywhere,
24:44
Speaker 3: you do.
24:45
Speaker 5: I my tablet around everywhere.
24:47
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, phone, air, tablet works to anything, anything that
24:52
Speaker 4: you have. But just throwing it out there, this's good
24:55
Speaker 4: final answer, just to get a little little realness that
24:59
Speaker 4: one might stand out all a little bit for the
25:01
Speaker 4: white Sox fans. But because everyone wants to just cry
25:04
Speaker 4: about you know, salary cap and money and whatever.
25:06
Speaker 5: How about the way that the ORG is handling things?
25:09
Speaker 3: Yes, but listen, Lance was one of the I remember
25:12
Speaker 3: when Lance was there. They were saying that Lance was
25:13
Speaker 3: really trying to get them to change a lot of things.
25:15
Speaker 3: They added a family room because of Lancey. They didn't
25:17
Speaker 3: have one they had. I mean, it wasn't very good,
25:19
Speaker 3: but they made a big one and that was a
25:20
Speaker 3: big deal. But they they've actually added a lot since
25:23
Speaker 3: Lance was there now. I mean they're playing ketchup though, right, So, yeah,
25:26
Speaker 3: all these other teams already have all these things crossing,
25:28
Speaker 3: you know, from being on a bunch of different teams,
25:30
Speaker 3: like when you would switch teams like, oh wow, they
25:31
Speaker 3: have this, Oh this is kind of good, it's amazing
25:33
Speaker 3: they have this next time. Well, now the White Socks
25:35
Speaker 3: are trying to catch up to what everyone else already has.
25:37
Speaker 3: So by the time they get what's built, the next
25:39
Speaker 3: people are onto the next thing. So it's that's where
25:41
Speaker 3: it's hard. You got to figure out how to get
25:42
Speaker 3: in front of it. And that's that's one of the
25:44
Speaker 3: hard things for you know when you talk about baseball,
25:46
Speaker 3: is how to get in front of the curve.
25:47
Speaker 6: Yep, it takes time.
25:51
Speaker 5: The minor league teams have family rooms.
25:54
Speaker 6: Yes, that's less on the ORG. That's less on the org.
25:59
Speaker 7: It's more on the actual like family like the team,
26:04
Speaker 7: like the Columbus Clippers are not owned by the Guardians,
26:09
Speaker 7: Lehigh Valley Iron Pigs are. They don't all have they
26:13
Speaker 7: don't all have family rooms. That's what's tough, that's what's grinder.
26:15
Speaker 7: That's why some of the wives only come to visit
26:18
Speaker 7: when they're in the big leagues, Big league wife, wife
26:22
Speaker 5: Call me when you're in the bigs. M.