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Road America Reaction with Elijah Poe, Dave Chanley & Michelle Garmon (The IndyCar Report with Elijah Poe, 2.287.2) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_03]: You are listening to a special edition of the Indie Car Report with Elijah Poe, Elijah's Dave Chainley's Ann Michelle Garman's reaction to Sunday's Indie Car Race at Rotor American in Wisconsin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, if you're watching this video on YouTube, we have our podcast reaction comes out pretty immediately after the race, the video takes a little longer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome Indie Car fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report for a special edition of the Indie Car Report with Elijah Poe.
0:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Greg Mendelden, and I'm joined of course by Elijah Poe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Also Dave Chandley and Tipton Tribunal would call either sports editor Michelle Garmin to react to the Indie Car Race on Sunday at Road America.
1:02
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a great race that ended with a Dame Invictory Lake coming from the very back of the field to the front and so many storylines, we have so much to talk about, a lot of you.
1:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was honestly one of the best indie car races I've ever watched outside of some of these oval races.
1:19
[SPEAKER_02]: That was just from start to finish, there were so many different strategies, you had pillow going up and down the field.
1:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Felix Rosenquist going up and down the field, Alex Rossi from last coming up to the podium will power out of nowhere.
1:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean there were so many names that were up near the top and man.
1:36
[SPEAKER_02]: It was such a great, great race.
1:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Fantastic race.
1:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I've ever seen one with so many twists and turns.
1:44
[SPEAKER_01]: No pun intended with a 14 turns.
1:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But unbelievable racing as far as strategizing,
1:55
[SPEAKER_01]: making a wrong decision, and it costing you a lot.
1:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
2:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a great reason.
2:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I love all the.
2:03
[SPEAKER_00]: the passing the back and forth, the, you know, pillow had a great, made a great save and some other drivers made great saves out there on the on the course today in the.
2:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought Fox did a wonderful job.
2:15
[SPEAKER_00]: We got to see a lot of, uh, as you mentioned earlier in our text thread Elijah of a lot of different camera, camera angles that I think just added to the drama of the race and put you a front row center for it.
2:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Um,
2:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, what a wonderful course and, you know, it was just a great race.
2:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I loved, I loved to stay thrilling from start to finish and you're right about the different strategies and, you know, you had drivers, some drivers made mistakes early and overcame them, lung guard.
2:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Last on the first lap to first on the final lap and, you know, below his mistake, Rossi, like you said, Eliza moving up through the field, it was just fantastic daya.
2:58
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the reason that I think Indie Carr is really the most enjoyable racing there is right now.
3:07
[SPEAKER_03]: And really was Marcus Armstrong's day really a bummer what happened to him late in the race.
3:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh tremendously.
3:15
[SPEAKER_02]: You just got to feel sick for him, you know, I think he had other than pillow, obviously the best car in the field.
3:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was looking like, you know, what was your five
3:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, his first ending car went and he looked head of her shoulders like he was going to be able to pull that off even with loongard closing in.
3:33
[SPEAKER_02]: He had to push the past advantage and I think he could have reel it in in the last couple laps, but just a heartbreaker to see another outcome decided by the hybrid.
3:42
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just it doesn't happen often, but for something that any cartoons didn't want in general, it's just brutal, especially when it impacts such a young, great talent like Marker's Armstrong.
3:55
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... i make a vote right now if it's up to me the hybrids are gone i agree to a lot of grace i i do want to point out that attrition mechanically is so much different than it was even ten years ago so much better that we it seems on almost silly uh... complaining about a couple of the ns because of mechanical issue
4:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you know what, I think you hear more of the drivers.
4:23
[SPEAKER_00]: The last few weeks, you have a Scott Dixon that's affected by a hybrid in a race.
4:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Whether it comes earlier, whether it comes late, like in Armstrong's case and cost him a win, I just think it's not a good look.
4:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know you used to have the mechanical failures, but I see do away with them, work on them.
4:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you can't improve them, then don't ever bring them back.
4:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And I would say on top of that, that, you know, it's kind of circumstance.
4:50
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... this guy's first ever career when uh... and was gonna be msr's first road course went other than uh... winning on on any oval obviously so uh... the circumsanted stealth is just uh... it's just kind of a better taste in your mouth uh... could you just feel for markets armstrong who obviously had that happened to him at the five hundred when he was beat by rosin quest but then here again just having a chance uh... literally stolen from him
5:15
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think it's safe to say Marcus Armstrong's going to win some races in his future.
5:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a possibility that he's going to change seats at some point.
5:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Pantsky's got to be looking at that young man and saying, we want him and our, and our paddock.
5:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe he's headed to the, nasty, right?
5:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I could see my knee head.
5:37
[SPEAKER_03]: I could see.
5:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
5:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
5:39
[SPEAKER_00]: He hurt me.
5:40
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really funny because I've heard either him or Felix Rosenquist headed to Ganasie if Dickson leaves.
5:45
[SPEAKER_00]: So he could be interesting.
5:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Apparently Rosenquist to Andretty is pretty much done.
5:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I've heard that, but as well, coming out of yesterday, I know we talked about it after qualifying, but I've also heard Rosenquist being pretty much tied to back to
6:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, a super good buzz with powder award, and I think that would be a really good partnership to have loongard, Felix Rosenquist, and powder award on the same team.
6:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, that's a deadly lineup.
6:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, Elijah, I also heard the rumor that Dixon was possibly going to Arrow McClaren.
6:19
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm guessing maybe if they don't get Rosenquist, that is Dixon a possibility?
6:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I could see it.
6:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be crazy to see how it lands out.
6:28
[SPEAKER_02]: It's silly things in first.
6:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they ought to put all 25 names in a hat and each team gets the draw on name.
6:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And when you get your three, you've got your team.
6:40
[SPEAKER_01]: How about just a draft?
6:41
[SPEAKER_01]: We could start.
6:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
6:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Alex, below you are headed to Hucos, Hollinger.
6:51
[SPEAKER_03]: He could probably win with them.
6:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Was he going to talk about how they'd play with him?
6:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you could not even track down Kiffin Simpson today, by the way, podium finish for Kiffin Simpson.
7:05
[SPEAKER_01]: That probably out of the whole race, that might be the biggest surprise of the race is Kiffin Simpson to third.
7:15
[SPEAKER_03]: He got up there because he pitted at the right time and so it was a bit of luck that he got up there, but once he got up there, he was as fast as anybody.
7:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he was, do you think, hello, I, I think maybe after some, you know, one, the speeding on pit row that brought him, big mistake by him, although, you know, he ended up back there in the top 10, he ended up with a top five finish, but I also think he had the brush, he'd be a little winged that little minor wing damage.
7:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I think between he and power were battling.
7:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And then when you go and you leave, and the safety made, wow, late in the race.
7:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not so sure that he was, how hard he was going to push to get back to racing, and just maybe felt like an XL, and I'll see where the chips land me down the stretch.
8:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't want to have a mistake or that takes me out of with a DNF and really puts
8:18
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's a little thought and that's a little piece of cement there that he drove over to go get past and I was surprised there wasn't immediate damage I it looked like he was never quite the same though.
8:32
[SPEAKER_03]: He definitely was not the best car at the end of the race, which it looked like he was for the first half without question.
8:40
[SPEAKER_01]: That might have been just an and you're right Greg that.
8:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, his car had to have lost something there in that, but that's safe was, uh, wow, maybe one of the best we have seen and we've seen a lot of saves, but that was unbelievable, but at that point he's thinking, hey, I've got, uh, six seventh place all the way into the fourth, just just get my points and get out of here.
9:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it kind of reminded me of another save that happened with David Malook is going on the
9:13
[SPEAKER_02]: It didn't play off in the end, but I think just in general, I think it showed a lot of viewers that, you know, these drivers were going all out on Rhode America.
9:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think credit to Fox, I think I saw angles that I have never seen before at Rhode America.
9:27
[SPEAKER_02]: It was incredible to watch on TV with 240 on track passes.
9:32
[SPEAKER_02]: It was peak in E. car.
9:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was only three or four yellows.
9:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Some years there, we've had six or seven yellows
9:43
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think it also just goes to show how good the drivers are in any car and are becoming because, yeah, below had a great save, so did some of the others today.
9:52
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's amazing because they could have had a big yellow Earl.
9:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I thought they were going to have a yellow early, like I think inside the first 10 laps there was a bunch, but they somehow they all maneuvered and we had some touching, but nobody
10:10
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's incredible when you think that the speeds are going and with everything they have on their minds and focused on in the car that they're just incredible drivers and for those that that poo who it I'm sorry race car drivers are among your best athletes in the world.
10:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I grew fat.
10:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Fox might have got a wrong start to interrupt but it's actually will power and third.
10:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And Jardie just posted power on for podium on their Instagram and I'm on the Indie car website and says power in third.
10:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
10:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, also it was add a yellow, add a caution.
10:48
[SPEAKER_01]: So they may have shuffled some cars because that was on the last lap.
10:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Please stay tuned as we go through the field with the results of Dane Christian Loomsard in first all the way through.
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[SPEAKER_03]: day in Christian Rasmussen in last.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So much to talk about, this segment usually lasts about 10 minutes.
11:11
[SPEAKER_03]: This might take 20 because so many stories through this race as I go through.
11:16
[SPEAKER_03]: The final result in, of course, a day in victory lane.
11:20
[SPEAKER_03]: His second win of the year, Christian
11:33
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a great strategy by Aaron McLaren to get him from very last of first.
11:37
[SPEAKER_02]: They're able to take measure of those yellows and take it to their advantage, which is hard to do in any car, but they've had a perfect race here, honestly.
11:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And Lungar, I think, is weekend and a week out showing that he can get these results on streets and the roads, but I think he's going to need to pick it up on the ovals.
11:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think we could have a contender if he's able to turn himself around on those ovals.
11:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to ask you, Laji, do you think Moonguard now is kind of maybe replacing award as McLaren's top driver?
12:08
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't think so.
12:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think Paddo is just so popular.
12:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think even though his popularity is a factor, I also think Paddo, given the car, can probably be anybody in this field if your name's not Alex Blow.
12:25
[SPEAKER_01]: and probably did today, he made a rare mistake.
12:28
[SPEAKER_01]: When you go down through the field, which we will do here on a little while, almost by every guy, you could say mistake mistake.
12:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, and it's not necessarily by the driver.
12:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It could have been by the team, but geez, they were just numerous today.
12:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And the way the yellows played out, it was there was some lock involved.
12:48
[SPEAKER_01]: There's absolutely some lock involved.
12:50
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, when Rosenquest after the drive through by Polo,
12:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm thinking, bro, drive to get your pet early, get to pet early.
13:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And he went one more lap and that caused him the race.
13:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
13:05
[SPEAKER_03]: David Malugas, finner second, never felt like he had the best car, but another runner-up finner for him.
13:13
[SPEAKER_00]: steady performance by David Malukus today.
13:16
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what how I would term it.
13:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say steady because I don't I like you great.
13:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I never felt like he had the best car on the race course, but he just was steady.
13:26
[SPEAKER_00]: He and his crew.
13:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Well said.
13:30
[SPEAKER_03]: And will power cause the yellow that came out of the end that made him finish in third place, although I don't think it was really as fault.
13:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I will agree with that.
13:41
[SPEAKER_01]: At first, I thought it was will powers fault, but after watching the replay, Graham moved the car over Graham Graham made a mistake himself.
13:53
[SPEAKER_00]: great day for power when you consider how his season has played out so far.
13:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's made some runs up into contingent and then had been involved in an accident or some kind of car issue or
14:11
[SPEAKER_00]: unlucky with yellows or a pit issue today for will power.
14:15
[SPEAKER_00]: This was just I think from start to finish his best overall run, maybe of the season and maybe this can be a turning point for him with and dready going forward.
14:29
[SPEAKER_03]: And as I mentioned, Kiffin Simpson was fourth-alanced
14:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's fine day for Polo to take fifth and get out of there were some points obviously still laying the championship by a considerable margin.
14:40
[SPEAKER_02]: It'd be interesting to see what Lungard and David Mlookers can do on the ovals to really challenge below.
14:47
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's looking like we could have potentially a good stretch of finishes here for Indie Car, even though we're had this some courses, Alex, Polo excels that.
14:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's play.
14:58
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
14:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
14:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
15:00
[SPEAKER_00]: When you can add those little bonus points every week like he is getting poll positions it fifth place finish, especially with the lady had does not always hurt you as much and if the yellow didn't come out at
15:16
[SPEAKER_03]: a very lucky time for below right after he served as penalty it went yellow and he had pitted so he came out in eighth place after doing a drive through penalty so he got really lucky just to finish fifth but that could have been a real disaster and it kind of feels like luck's on the side too.
15:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I think when you're that good you are the luck community.
15:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean the teams follow their strategies
15:42
[SPEAKER_02]: just based off what that number 10 crew is doing.
15:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he kind of controls every race, even if he is an in first, which is kind of incredible, but still a fifth place result.
15:53
[SPEAKER_02]: His average finish by the end of the season, I wouldn't be surprised if his is like two or three, just because he's so consistently up near the top.
16:04
[SPEAKER_03]: And finishing sixth Alexander Rossi who started 25th, but man, he had a chance to be on the podium.
16:13
[SPEAKER_01]: nothing but great things to say about Alex Rossi in this race today.
16:18
[SPEAKER_01]: He did have a bad pit stop that was about three seconds too long or he could have come out a little better that was earlier in the race.
16:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So they they also had a mistake, but he still he did a great job.
16:30
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a 19 second pit stop under green, which really cost him a chance to contend.
16:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it did.
16:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he was really good today and I think that that
16:44
[SPEAKER_00]: that the leg ankle injury he's suffered.
16:49
[SPEAKER_00]: About a month, I guess it's probably about a month ago now, right?
16:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
16:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think you can tell that he's get, that that's probably getting better.
16:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I, because I, the way he moved through the field, I don't know if your foot is still a source it was two weeks ago, you're able to maneuver your car like he maneuvered his car today.
17:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he still is on crutches.
17:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just think Road America is one of his best tracks.
17:16
[SPEAKER_02]: He's obviously one year before by over 30 seconds and usually finishes up to your towards the top.
17:22
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you are as a whole, I think Rasmusian was on for a pretty good result as well.
17:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that team has turned themselves around here in a few races in 2026, which I think he's very exciting.
17:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Of the drivers who had bad luck in the pit strategies, Scott McLaughlin was the top finisher he finished seventh and feel its Rosenquist was eighth, otherwise those two probably would have been contenders as well.
17:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, that how about a frozen quiz?
17:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't it after that and he came out 11th at that and then he he lost positions.
17:55
[SPEAKER_00]: He gambled on some kind of pass and you wondered that.
17:58
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a little bit of his mistake knowing his team keeping you know, hip out longer.
18:04
[SPEAKER_00]: But I wonder there if he hadn't lost his positions if he would have been contending for the podium there at the end as well.
18:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Santino Farucci was ninth Kyle Kirkwood had a chance to make up some positions in the championship on Alex Blow and could not, you finished 10th.
18:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think the broadcast said Kyle Kirkwood's name one time, uh, talk about a non-factor today, just really nowhere, which is the shame because we've seen how good he is, uh, but sometimes that and dready car in him just do not work out as some of these tracks and I think this is one of them.
18:45
[SPEAKER_01]: He probably had a 10th to 15th place car and he finished 10th.
18:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's sometimes that's all you can do.
18:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And in his case, yeah, he had a real shot today with some, but because everybody was making mistakes.
19:04
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're right, he was a non-factor.
19:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Fruce, he was really a non-factor today.
19:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
19:09
[SPEAKER_02]: But still good results for Fruce, yeah, we'll say that.
19:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes.
19:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he was not involved in any accidents got Dixon reportedly on the move from ganasi maybe finished 11 Yeah, port Dixon just didn't ever feel like it was going to be a great race.
19:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously having that contact with Loon guard on lap one Kind of dropping out and having to get a splash of fuel for running out of fuel when one of the yellows came.
19:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was the first or second yellow
19:44
[SPEAKER_02]: an up and down race, but then again Scott Dixon's still wheeling at home in 11th.
19:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that's the worst he could have done if it was where he started.
19:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And when we're talking about Dixon moving teams, who would have ever thought, how long has he been with Gnassie?
20:01
[SPEAKER_03]: For 11,000.
20:03
[SPEAKER_01]: That's something that when I heard that last week that he made.
20:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, leave Ganesi and I'm thinking, wow, that, that's newsworthy because he is Ganesi.
20:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Scott Dixon is a, he's a great race guard driver, but he also is not the type of personality to sit second fiddle.
20:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And with Polo on his way to what his fourth straight is that writer is his fifth straight.
20:29
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be his fourth straight in fifth and six years.
20:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd Greg just said it beforehand and like my goodness.
20:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot believe.
20:36
[SPEAKER_02]: just the, just the numbers alone every time I speak it, you just have to almost unravel and just how great he is.
20:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
20:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just don't think, like I said, I don't think Dickson's got his type of person to being number two for that stretch.
20:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't, and I think as he looks at it, he doesn't see himself back as being the number one driver at
20:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, and Simpson, you know, or somebody, if they bring in, when they bring in somebody else, he may be down to number three and I just don't think that sticks in a surprising because of the history, but not so surprising that he may want to go somewhere else so he can try to contend again and not be the number two guy.
21:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm also not sure where Dixon could go where he would be the number one guy now.
21:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't lie.
21:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we know.
21:25
[SPEAKER_00]: It have to be a small team.
21:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Wouldn't it have to be one of the more minor teams?
21:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't imagine Scott Dixon taking a pay cut and going to one of the smaller teams.
21:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't know.
21:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be interesting.
21:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be interesting.
21:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be interesting.
21:39
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be interesting.
21:40
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be interesting.
21:41
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be interesting.
21:42
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be interesting.
21:44
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be interesting.
21:45
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be interesting.
21:46
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be interesting.
21:47
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be interesting.
21:48
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be interesting.
21:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so.
21:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not far from retirement.
21:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's be honest.
21:53
[SPEAKER_01]: He's 45.
21:54
[SPEAKER_01]: He's really not too far from retirement.
21:57
[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be a head scratcher.
21:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Why would you leave there?
21:59
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got a solid place and and don't step down step up if you're your sideways.
22:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I arrow would be a sideways step.
22:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, hey, this is, and let's say, look this way.
22:10
[SPEAKER_01]: There's still eight races left.
22:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're already talking about musical seats change.
22:17
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, yesterday's race preview our qualifying recap was all about the rumors, which by the way, all started about the second that the Indie car report ended this week.
22:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because I was going to what I was going to say is I have I read something another day and they said they think that this maybe one of the most intriguing offseason in the musical chairs because everybody's searching for the one guy that can be Alex Polo and there's a lot of people that don't think there's one that the there's one out there that you know can just.
22:55
[SPEAKER_00]: You serpent that the pillow is just that good that not the dark great drivers out there, but that if you're looking for that one guy to just take over for pillow.
23:06
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not sure that you can find one just one that can do that.
23:15
[SPEAKER_03]: There, the one guy who might be able to match Alex below talent wise, I don't think his team has performed well enough in 12th place.
23:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought he had a great day considering all of the bad luck he had, and that, of course, is Patricia O'Word.
23:32
[SPEAKER_01]: He's part of it was his own doing though.
23:34
[SPEAKER_01]: He was out of fuel, he had to pit.
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
23:37
[SPEAKER_01]: emergency pit, which put him at the back of the pack.
23:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, he would have probably been right there in fourth or fifth place, where he's been all year with probably a 10th place car.
23:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I just almost feel bad for airman clarinet at this point.
23:49
[SPEAKER_02]: They've had such a non-factor year, even with Christian Loongard now having two wins and him and Paddo still competing for the championship some way in fourth or fifth, although I think that Loongard might jump up to third maybe.
24:03
[SPEAKER_02]: depending on where results fall.
24:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like these are two drivers who deserve to be really fighting for a championship.
24:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Almost at the level of Alex Plo, I mean, we've seen how good these drivers are and it's a shame they're not.
24:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Also had a great car today and had a lot of bad luck that was Marcus Erickson.
24:20
[SPEAKER_03]: 13th.
24:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, Marcus Ericsson may have may have had outside drivers who actually finished the race.
24:28
[SPEAKER_00]: He and Armstrong had the two best cars, at least two of the top three cars on the race cars all day long.
24:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, bad luck.
24:38
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we talk about the bad luck and how much of it there was today in bad decisions.
24:43
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all part of racing, though.
24:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's what that's part of the fun of racing.
24:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, you just, you wonder what it sometimes, why luck favors one person over another.
24:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But Eric's, he's a great driver.
25:01
[SPEAKER_03]: 14th place was Louis Foster 15th place was Roman Grosjon and Waterdick.
25:07
[SPEAKER_03]: 16th place was Kyle Collette.
25:09
[SPEAKER_03]: 17th place mixed shoe marker, adventurous day.
25:12
[SPEAKER_03]: 18th place Reena's V.K.
25:14
[SPEAKER_03]: 19th was Stingray, Rob, 20th Dennis Houder.
25:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm about collect real quick.
25:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he may be the, and I know how he'll apply the steadiest rookie, but I think collect is the most intriguing rookie and could get in the right team with the right car.
25:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he could be a superstar in the making in the near future.
25:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he is heads on at this point, real good to the year.
25:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know how girls are great race driver and steady,
25:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Collette really impresses me.
25:51
[SPEAKER_03]: The only rookies I mentioned just now.
25:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, she might be the, maybe the most intriguing or disappointing rookie of what a strange, strange season this guy said, what a strange and a day too weird.
26:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just unfortunate, just unfortunate.
26:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
26:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he's ever wanted going to want to come here in the car again after this year.
26:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you what, it makes any car guys look better.
26:27
[SPEAKER_03]: It's really odd because there've been a lot of Formula One drivers come over and just kind of taking right to Indie car and he just.
26:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Couldn't just in every way, it's been a struggle for him.
26:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
26:43
[SPEAKER_03]: In 21st place, Nolan Seagull, another guy who just was really good all day until he got his issues.
26:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I had a crash on the very, it's very last lap there, it didn't throw the yellow which I loved because, you know, rice is going to be over by the time they got around.
26:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I just got caught out by that, just got caught out by that.
27:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So, another list though, I think it's, honestly, a positive day for Nolan Seagull.
27:06
[SPEAKER_02]: We know he's not going to be back in that seat next year, but,
27:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Still a great drive.
27:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he was in fourth.
27:12
[SPEAKER_02]: He was in fifth and sixth pretty much the entire race.
27:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he had a great race today.
27:17
[SPEAKER_02]: He really did.
27:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, she'll like you say.
27:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Bad luck and it was bad luck.
27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's tracking for position there on that last lap and
27:27
[SPEAKER_01]: He just got involved in it.
27:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And who knows, he would have to break the film down to see how much was his falter if he just got taken out.
27:36
[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, That's often no one's going to be a good racer.
27:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I ever, he's still young.
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to remember this kid's 21 years old.
27:43
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
27:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
27:45
[SPEAKER_03]: There's potential for him.
27:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't understand how he was an aeromeclair and just doesn't seem to belong, but he's starting to seem like maybe he belongs.
28:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I have my hats off to Joseph Newgarden.
28:02
[SPEAKER_01]: He was first with nine laps to go.
28:05
[SPEAKER_01]: The mere fact that he was out there in that position, even though it was off sequence, and he was gonna have to pit.
28:12
[SPEAKER_01]: The mere fact that he was there hats off to him, especially with having surgery earlier in the week.
28:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'm honestly surprised, Benzki had him in the car with Philippe Nazar at the track, but nonetheless,
28:30
[SPEAKER_02]: That is, and self is pretty incredible.
28:34
[SPEAKER_03]: And Graham Ray Hall was about a mile away from his fourth podium finish of the year.
28:41
[SPEAKER_03]: You finished 23rd after an accident with Willpower still hasn't let a lap this year.
28:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that was just a bad move.
28:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that was necessary.
28:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you saw how much speed power came down on that last stretch.
28:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he would have been clear.
28:59
[SPEAKER_02]: by a good ways.
29:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think Graham Raywell has been particularly a great racing driver.
29:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think RLL and that 15 crew in general has put him in good spots with, at the end of the day, that's just a good racing team.
29:13
[SPEAKER_02]: But another disappointing result, which could have been maybe either a podium or a fourth place.
29:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate that word for Graham, but again, I do think the mistake was his and not powers and unfortunate incident and I know you're fighting you really well.
29:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't understand that, but you could be a time to stand that.
29:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's the feeling of podium finish.
29:38
[SPEAKER_03]: You understand why he goes over there.
29:40
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a mistake, but it's an understandable mistake and why I don't, I guess.
29:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Ray Hall Letterman has had some good moments this year in the season and some bad ones.
29:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do, I do think as a whole, they'd perform better this year than they did a year ago.
30:02
[SPEAKER_01]: All in all, Graham had a great race today.
30:04
[SPEAKER_01]: He was just two miles, three miles from finishing it off and there was some stake and he was, and Howard didn't avoid it.
30:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Howard couldn't avoid it, maybe.
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Powerhead ahead of steam there.
30:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I, that's one after the race.
30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Let those two talk and straighten it out because I really don't think it was will power faltering that one.
30:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Usually is it wasn't this to.
30:32
[SPEAKER_03]: 24th place, Marcus Armstrong, again, it was his day.
30:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Just so brutal.
30:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll get one eventually like you said to kick this off at the beginning of the podcast.
30:43
[SPEAKER_02]: He will get one eventually.
30:44
[SPEAKER_02]: But man, it was a really, really felt like it was his day.
30:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate to say this, but if you ain't first your last and man, did he go from first to 24th in a hurry?
30:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
30:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Really, look at the job Miles Shank racing is doing.
31:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, here with some of their cars.
31:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they had great cars.
31:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Rinkwist had a great car today.
31:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Come out of the problem.
31:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Armstrong had a great car today.
31:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they've just had, I think, a great season.
31:19
[SPEAKER_03]: And we had a day in victory lane and a day in last place, Christian Rasmussen in 25th also Gaki might be a contender for a top 10 until he had his issue is hybrid issue is hybrid yeah I think he looks pretty good and it was like you said probably going to finish that top 10 after starting 16.
31:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Disappointing result for him again.
31:42
[SPEAKER_02]: He's had some obviously some good results this season on those shorter ovals, but it really does feel like he's had some really bad luck in general Everywhere else, but those short ovals, and I think some bad luck here again today All right, everybody listen me back here on the indie car report this week on Thursday Off week for the racing, so that'll be it for the week
32:09
[SPEAKER_03]: And coming up the day after the 4th of July for some reason is Nitto, Ohio.
32:15
[SPEAKER_03]: That'll be on Fox, of course.
32:17
[SPEAKER_03]: That's followed by a great race that I believe that Dave Chandley will be attending in Nashville at the Super Speedway there.
32:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to say that these cars and road America seem like a perfect marriage on a road course and these cars and Nashville
32:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with that 100% Now that race doesn't have a time yet, so I'll be interested to see if Fox maybe slots them in for an evening race, hopefully Last one yeah, that'd be awesome under the lights Dave you'll be there either way, right?
32:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I will be there Welcome anybody that wants to come along, find me, I'll be there Told you there was lots to talk about
33:07
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