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#103 - Travis Thompson · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yo, Man Boulet Cavs Show special guests did here the
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  Speaker 1: Boulevard Boy himself. What's good, it's your boy, Travis Thompson.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you man, Thank you for having me bad Man.
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  Speaker 1: Good to see you. See. I ain't seen you since
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  Speaker 1: all this pandemic shit been popping. It's been a fucking grip, bro. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: how have you been during this whole entire weird Well,
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  Speaker 1: the world has changed, the world has changed since I've
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  Speaker 1: seen you last year. I know, I know, it's so much.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the last time I seen you, I think
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  Speaker 1: I was put out the last album, Reckless Dangerment, and
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  Speaker 1: then we were on the press run of twenty nineteen,
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  Speaker 1: and then we were about to go on tour and
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  Speaker 1: then like release some more shit, and then the whole
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  Speaker 1: pandemic happened, and I was like, all right, let me
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  Speaker 1: just like really take some time and like level up
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  Speaker 1: and like actually, like I don't know it was it
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  Speaker 1: was like I felt like a time to really start
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  Speaker 1: swinging for the fence on something like all right, we've
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  Speaker 1: built a core fan base, we built like some we've
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  Speaker 1: got some cool shit going, but now we really want
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  Speaker 1: to start like making records that make shit move you
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  Speaker 1: feel me, so like, yeah, so we just locked ourselves
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  Speaker 1: in for like the whole fucking pandemic, which was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: We were up in Seattle just kind of going stir
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  Speaker 1: crazy for a long time, but then it came out
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  Speaker 1: here and worked on it and near the end of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty and now things are kind of like dropped again,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Things are moving and finally
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  Speaker 1: doing press shit again. So it feels good, Bro, I've
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  Speaker 1: been good. Yeah, it's I saw you say, uh, because
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  Speaker 1: I know the homie Souas was kind of like helping
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  Speaker 1: do it to me and our stuff, and him and
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  Speaker 1: Head always say like I forget I saw you quote
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  Speaker 1: what they said about making bangers or something. Oh yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was really just like no, make slaps, bro, like
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  Speaker 1: you make your ass. Don't overthink this, don't over It's
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  Speaker 1: literally all about slaps, Like don't fucking you could wrap
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  Speaker 1: your ass off all day, like literally, and it was
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  Speaker 1: a ship. My friends were telling me too. My friends
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  Speaker 1: were literally just being like, nah, we want like slaps
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  Speaker 1: for the car, bro, like you barn out and shit,
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  Speaker 1: you like spitting your little stories and shiitite. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: non lyrics over for Zanex. That's all that's it's been
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  Speaker 1: out for I hope. So, I mean, yeah, some motherfuckers
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  Speaker 1: are still down bad, but I can't even it's over
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  Speaker 1: for that good good Yeah it was over. But uh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know we just locked in for all twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: and kind of drove ourselves a little crazy in the crib.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah it was good, good, good time. Okay, you're
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  Speaker 1: living in the Seattle area. I am living a Seattle
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  Speaker 1: during the pandemic, and there's like this fucking zone of
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  Speaker 1: the city, yeah, Chazz, the Chazz Zone, whatever the fuck
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  Speaker 1: it's called. Yeah, the ship looked crazy, and to me,
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  Speaker 1: it was like it was like if Antifa really like
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  Speaker 1: took over the world, that that that that little strip
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  Speaker 1: of the city might be Like no, I feel you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: in a way, it was like it's a weird, like
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  Speaker 1: touchy subject on it, cause it's like it was such
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  Speaker 1: a thing, bro. It was such a force when it
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  Speaker 1: happened in the city, bro, And it was like definitely
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  Speaker 1: exaggerated by the media, you feel me. It was definitely
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  Speaker 1: like like all they would show you was the crazy
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  Speaker 1: shit and then like running footage of the crazy shit,
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  Speaker 1: Like it was like this complete like and granted there
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  Speaker 1: was like two blocks where that shit was popping off
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  Speaker 1: for a little bit, like for a few weeks. It
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  Speaker 1: was definitely like was it like Hamsterdam and the Wire?
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  Speaker 1: Do you even know? Oh yeah, I know exactly. No,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't like that, but it was straight like I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. It was like half of like people like
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  Speaker 1: protesting and like Patagonia with signs and nice ladies being
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  Speaker 1: like yeah in half of like nah, we're taking this
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  Speaker 1: ship back, Like if you're here, let's let's burn some
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  Speaker 1: ship down, let's really like make a you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Let's make a So it was like a
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  Speaker 1: just crazy energy and I only went up there like twice.
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  Speaker 1: You chapped into the chat. Yeah it's not it's not
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  Speaker 1: like I'm from. So it wasn't like scary or nothing
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  Speaker 1: if you went up there. Bro Like obviously maybe at
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  Speaker 1: night shit was getting a little hectic, but like in
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  Speaker 1: the daytime you can just walk your dog through it,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It wasn't this correct. I
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  Speaker 1: mean there's probably people who like had apartments in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the child you know. It's like I had
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  Speaker 1: homies who were like like watching it like going live
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  Speaker 1: from their balcony every night. You know what I'm saying, Like,
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  Speaker 1: this is what it looks like outside my ship. Like
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  Speaker 1: it was insane, bro. Like it was. It was an
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  Speaker 1: insane time. That's definitely like Seattle will never forget. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You and I are pretty liberal people,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like based on our conversations, but I feel
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  Speaker 1: like that was like being too liberal. What being liberal
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  Speaker 1: gets too? A little bit too real? Amen? Amen? I
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  Speaker 1: I don't even it's a touchy subject. You feel me
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  Speaker 1: because I'm on. I'm on some like if we want
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  Speaker 1: to if we want a real change, we kind of
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  Speaker 1: got to start from scratch. But hey man, it ain't
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  Speaker 1: it ain't. It ain't my place to go up and
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  Speaker 1: lose shit. You know, I wasn't out there loose. I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't out there going crazy or nothing. But I was
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  Speaker 1: like making my voice hurting shit. I guess you know
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  Speaker 1: it was. You know, I think, like it's just so
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  Speaker 1: crazy to think, like what all we went through in
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  Speaker 1: a year's time, bro, as a country fucking time. Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Like I remember just walking around seeing like people's faces
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  Speaker 1: and like the emotions you see in people's faces were
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  Speaker 1: like we're not brand new, but like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it was wild to me, bro Like, it was just
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  Speaker 1: an emotional ass time, a hectic ass time. Bro. Like.
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  Speaker 1: We went to a few protests out in Seattle, and
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  Speaker 1: it was just every time we went it was an experience,
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  Speaker 1: like it was a yeah, yeah, yeah. We went to
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  Speaker 1: a few out here and it was like some of
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  Speaker 1: them were chill, and then one of them there was
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  Speaker 1: like I saw with my own eyes, like the ship
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  Speaker 1: like you would see on like Instagram where it's like yo,
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  Speaker 1: there's like people dressed in all black fucking shit up.
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  Speaker 1: No I'm not yeah, bro, And it's crazy to me,
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  Speaker 1: how like I ain't gonna lie. Like, we went to
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  Speaker 1: one protest out in Bellevue. It was like the east
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  Speaker 1: like the east side of the Seattle and Ship, and
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  Speaker 1: it was like a perfectly peaceful pro like no one
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  Speaker 1: was doing nothing. I was up front, bro, I was
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  Speaker 1: like very front. Yeah, I was up in the like
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  Speaker 1: and then out of nowhere, someone throws something at a
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  Speaker 1: cop and then shit just goes completely left, like tear gas,
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  Speaker 1: like the little grenades that they brought, the little grenades
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  Speaker 1: like go as. So we're running down the street like
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  Speaker 1: we're like me and my manager shelting. They're like huffing
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  Speaker 1: this gas, like trying not to puke my homies, like
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  Speaker 1: pouring water and milk and people's eyes and shit like.
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  Speaker 1: And it was crazy to like watch like the news
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  Speaker 1: report on it when I was right there and act
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  Speaker 1: like it was like a violent protest, bro. It was
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  Speaker 1: like and it wasn't like someone threw a It was
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  Speaker 1: like a can or something not thrown into a crowd
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  Speaker 1: of cops. And then it just went left. And then
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching people report on it and they're just like
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  Speaker 1: all these violent protests are like or they're walking up
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  Speaker 1: to kids who are looting, like trying to get in
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  Speaker 1: their faces, and shit, I'm like, y'all aren't reporting this story, bro,
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  Speaker 1: You're just trying to get a sensationalized version. It's fucking
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  Speaker 1: Insand I've always known this about ratings. I've always known this,
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  Speaker 1: like they were gonna show you this ship, which really
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  Speaker 1: this is going on. But like going there in first
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  Speaker 1: person and seeing like watching the protesters get like story
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  Speaker 1: spun on them was so ugly, bro, so ugly. So
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  Speaker 1: you feel me, Yeah, shit got hectic in Seattle. But
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, They're like sensationalized it and made
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  Speaker 1: people look crazy when they were really just making their
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  Speaker 1: voice hurt. Nah. I think like that's the one thing.
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  Speaker 1: Like the news reporters in Seattle are shisty too. Put
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  Speaker 1: me on the news, and they put me on the
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  Speaker 1: news because we called we seen them, bro, like we
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  Speaker 1: I saw this lady doing an interview like lying straight
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  Speaker 1: up on TV like a news reporter lying for Cairo
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  Speaker 1: seven in Seattle. She was straight up lying, and I like,
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  Speaker 1: me and my manager Sheldon, like got in her interview
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  Speaker 1: and we're like, you're lying, that's not what happened. We
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  Speaker 1: were there, Da da da, and they turned the camera
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  Speaker 1: to us and they were like made us look like
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  Speaker 1: crazy protesters and this look at this crazy look at
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  Speaker 1: these crazy kids. And I'm like and then so I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting text like bro, you're they're making you crazy on
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  Speaker 1: the news. Why did I just see you on the news?
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  Speaker 1: Why I see you on the news? Why I see
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  Speaker 1: you on the news? And I'm like, WHOA was that
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  Speaker 1: like live? And come to find out it was fucking live.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like I was on live TV being like
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  Speaker 1: you a fucking liar? Da da da da da. But
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  Speaker 1: it was just passionate in the moment, like stop lying
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  Speaker 1: to the people you feel me. So, yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: a crazy time. Bro. Let me ask you this because
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: like obviously you're a young dude, like and I do
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  Speaker 1: feel like, you know, getting like accurate depictions of what's
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: really going on news wise is hard to find nowadays, right,
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  Speaker 1: no matter no matter what you watch, if you watch
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  Speaker 1: it used to be, CNN was like it felt like
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  Speaker 1: it was like you're gonna get get You're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: the no bias or the MSNBC, you know. Ms My
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: thing is is like if you watch MSNBC, you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get like the hardcore like liberal version of whatever the
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  Speaker 1: news is, right, and then if you watch Fox, it's
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  Speaker 1: like batshit crazy Magalan and the CNN used to be,
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: and but now CNN also is like kind of full
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  Speaker 1: of shit. So it's like, where the really, bro, I
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  Speaker 1: just be trying to watch Twitter videos and then try
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  Speaker 1: to decipher like the energy as best as I can. Bro,
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  Speaker 1: I just be trying to see as many like live
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  Speaker 1: people's footage. Twitter is the best news. Twitter is the
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  Speaker 1: best news. I'm not gonna lie like to I and
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: I was. I was. I've been on Facebook for years,
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: but I've been off it for you. But then during Facebook, Oh,
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: I said, I've been off it for years, Like as
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: soon as I started rapping, bro, I gave up Facebook,
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: but like I hopped back on it during the pandemic
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  Speaker 1: because the lives on there were insane, bro Like people
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  Speaker 1: were going live through these like Uprising protesting and like
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  Speaker 1: it was the crazy some of the crazy shit I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen. Bro. Like, you go on Facebook and you'll
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: be like, oh damn, I can't, like you know, family members,
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  Speaker 1: people you went to high school with, and you'd be like,
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  Speaker 1: these people are crazy. Oh my, it's crazy. Psycho path.
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  Speaker 1: I'll go on Facebook, like I'll randomly go on Facebook
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  Speaker 1: to change like some like artists ads shit on the
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  Speaker 1: Facebook page. And then I was like the first status
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  Speaker 1: I see is like here's my baby mama back page.
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  Speaker 1: Ad da da da Let me see my kid again, Dad?
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  Speaker 1: It's fake And I'm like, oh my god, or like
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  Speaker 1: hey I need some cigarettes because someone give me a ride,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just like, whoa, bro, this is no Facebook.
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  Speaker 1: It's a place you feel fucked up that'll be on
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  Speaker 1: that and it's like people you actually know, like Instagram,
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: you follow a bunch of people, you do, you know
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: you'll open up Facebook Like, damn, I've known this guy
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  Speaker 1: for fifteen years. What the fuck is he talking about it?
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  Speaker 1: Real life? Real life? Bro? Yeah, no, I don't be
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  Speaker 1: on that them and most people get their news from
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  Speaker 1: memes on Facebook. Ah, that's ugly, bro, don't say that
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  Speaker 1: most old people. What you are not lying? Brother? Facebook
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  Speaker 1: Facebook comments are like a cesspool of like gross. My
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: wife's mom is she's like an older Mexican lady and
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: she won't get vaccinated because she's on Facebook all day.
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: God bless her. She's, you know, one of the hardest
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  Speaker 1: working ladies in the world. But she always sends my
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: wife like shit she finds on Facebook. Yeah, and it's
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: it's like, it's literally on Facebook. And I'm like, Babe,
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  Speaker 1: tell your mom to get the fuck off of face.
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  Speaker 1: No I'm not, yeah, bro, I'm not. Like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: know my family members like sharing shit with me through
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  Speaker 1: the text and the dms. Like I'm like, bro, like,
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  Speaker 1: you are not the guy. You are not the scientist
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  Speaker 1: who figured this shit out. Bro. Yeah, No, I already
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  Speaker 1: know I can't be on Facebook. It's a cess pool
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: of ignorance. So listen, man, you're uh, you're give me
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, do you feel like you
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: work the hardest on this album. I definitely work the
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: hardest on this album for sure, and just pushed ourselves
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: a way harder than before because I don't know, Like,
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: like I was telling you before we got started, bro,
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  Speaker 1: it was very much like a we're swinging for the
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: fences this time, and we're like, we want to make slaps,
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: like regardless of like, I don't know, we like we
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  Speaker 1: built a cool thing. We built like a fan base,
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  Speaker 1: a solid group of people who fuck with me for years,
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: who like support us and come to shows and stream
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: our shit. But I just, I don't know, I wanted
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: to get in front of a new audience and like
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  Speaker 1: make people move for the first time on some just
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  Speaker 1: fun shit, on some like just slapping ass song shit
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  Speaker 1: even me. So yeah, we definitely worked harder on this,
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: and we spent like a month and a half out
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  Speaker 1: here in La meeting with producers and meeting artists and shit,
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  Speaker 1: like I had never done that before. Prior to that,
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: you were just like recording Seattle. It was all in house,
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: Seattle shit. It was all in and like if we
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: got a feature, we send it out and like, bro,
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: like I didn't even start having rapper friends until like
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: Reckless came out. Who's your rapper friends? I don't know, bro,
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: I don't I mean everyone who was on the album
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: or like was on the last album, you know what
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, but then we got a bunch like
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: for this one, we started working like, I don't know, fuck,
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: who's the rapper friends that are album? Bookie's on the
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: He's the homie. G Easy's the homie. Who else? Gwop
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  Speaker 1: Dad he's not hi mean he's on like the lux maybe,
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: but Dad, like Rex life. Dad is one of the
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  Speaker 1: more funniest human beings. Wop is like a genuinely hilarious person.
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: And did you see we pranked him with the milk voice? Yeah, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna live. We were out there waiting for like
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes and I started I was like, hey, he
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: prankd WAP before they might be in there plotting on
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  Speaker 1: us or something. Bro. He was pissed. He was like,
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: I'm about to up pistol on you. He had a
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: something in this. I already know. I already know Gap,
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  Speaker 1: But Bro, it's funny too because I remember seeing the
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: comments for that video like who's this guy? I think
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: he is? And I'm like, oh, y'all don't know. Gwap.
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: I was like, y'all don't know. That was fun. We
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: did another one, well, we did a few, but like
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: one of them like we did with I mean, at
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: this point in time, I really don't care we did.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: We pranked Eric Bellinger and hit Maker. They really yes,
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: you didn't put it out? No, no, they hit Maker
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: was not fucking with it at all. He was not
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: And this is like right before the album came out, right,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, guys, you have no idea. They're
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: gonna the song in the video. They're gonna put the
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: like clips of your guys. Yeah, hit Maker was so
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  Speaker 1: hot do the same thing, the same thing. We're doing
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  Speaker 1: an interview. And then he kept coming in coming in.
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  Speaker 1: Oh he was not happy though. There's a there's a
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: there's Jesse put out a piece of it and blurred
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  Speaker 1: them out, and in the YouTube comments they figured out
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  Speaker 1: that at least one of the two guys was hit making.
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  Speaker 1: Eric was cool about it, you know. Eric's like, look, man,
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  Speaker 1: like this is what the fuck man? We're trying to
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: do a serious interview like that I might cool with Eric,
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: you know, like I'm cool with hit Maker too, but
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: like hit Maker was so hot. God damn. That's good
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  Speaker 1: ship though. It's good ship though. And he had you
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: have the kid from milk do it? That's fire? Yeah? Fire? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was definitely. I was definitely out there, like fuck,
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  Speaker 1: I really hope they don't try to pull some ship
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  Speaker 1: on me because I'm not gonna have a funny reaction.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get annoyed for real. Well you put you,
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like you would recognize I might have reckoned.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: I might have been like are y'all fucking with me
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  Speaker 1: or something? Yeah, it is what it is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: But go op Dad, it was inter Yeah. No, but
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: yeah we spent out. We were like a month and
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: a half out here. So it's just like like I said, bro,
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: like it's one of being in Seattle is super dope.
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  Speaker 1: I love being like staying in my hometown and like
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: going to like the bar or something and getting free
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: drinks and it's hell of love. But then when I'm
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: out here, it's just like shit just happens. You feel me,
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: So it's like we're making the move. Would you ever move?
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: Out here. Yeah, we're making the move in the next
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: like a few months, I think, but not like permanently. Yeah,
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: don't just don't get to La Man. You know, I
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: know I already know you know what it is. But
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like extremely, like aggressively a kid from Seattle, like
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: you know me for a few years now for sure.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: It's not like worth. I'm so this that I can't
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: even try to be anything else. Yeah, just you know,
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: get a nice cool spot in the valley exactly, everyone
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: live out in the valley out here. Save some money.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: Don't go to fucking West Hollywood and walk up and
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: down Melrose with your jewelry old because everyone's getting robbed
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: right now. Everyone's getting robbed right now on Melrose is different. Wow,
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: it's different now, even like a few years ago. I
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: pulled up and I was like, ooh, this feels different.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like I literally used to say, this
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: feels like comments in real life. That's what I used
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: to say about Melrose. I'm like, this is like if
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: the Instagram comments like came to Life's fucking Melrose. That's
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: a weird place, bro. What was it like Lincoln with
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: the with the Gerald oh Man cool. I mean, so
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: basically we uh, I did the La Leakers freestyle like
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: my first future like trip to La or something like that,
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: and he he was like the first like artist like
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: besides like maybe like the one like Macamore or something
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: that it ever like reached out to me, you know
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, but the Leakers freestyle comes out
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: and that same day he hits me up. He's like, Yo,
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: you fucking snapped. This shit's hard Da da da da
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: keep going You're going crazy and uh and then like
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: two years past, but I didn't press the issue because
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't know. I'm not the guy
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: who's I don't know I ever, I don't ever want
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: to like be a weirdo and try to finesse a
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: friendship or nothing and feel me but like my management
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: and shit goes back with him. So eventually, like we
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: had a record that made sense to me, send it
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: and he was on and it was love bro, like
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: he was on some like oh yeah, let's make it
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: go up D and it was helly easy bro. So
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: really it just came about on some like he hit
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: me up in the DM being like you snapped on
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: that freestyle I just didn't ask for nothing, just waited
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: for a couple of years, and then finally he's the
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: best and he's a good dude. Bro shot the video
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: and he was on set all day. Turns up. When
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: me we were hitting the costume egos together, it was lit.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: That's my guy. Yeah, she's like for being like a
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: superstar that he is. It is like the coolest motherfucker man. Bro,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: the cool ran and randomly too like he'll like he
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: just like he'll favor the tweet on some like stupid
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: ship on some random just like he's just a genuinely
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: good guy, you know. But he's he's turned up. I
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: proposed to my wife in the middle of his set
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: and uh, some festival, I probably, Yeah, I brought it out.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: He's like one of my closest president sh hell yeah, No,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: he's a good dude. Bro was That's why I was like, Oh,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: they did a song together. I wonder what that studio
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: session was like. No, see, I wish I was trying
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: to make it happen in person. But now we made
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that song. Have you partied with? Can you hang? Because
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: it gets serious. I mean like I don't be I
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: don't be off the real drugs or nothing, but yeah,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like I can. I was definitely drinking and ship.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: You went to Vegas with them and did the Resorts World, right, Yeah,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: so yeah we did what's it called. We were out
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: in Vegas for the first time and he got us
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: like a section with bottles. You know, he's a professional
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: at partying, Like, oh no, he's he's a he's a yeah,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: like I'll be like I'll be with him, like like
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: when he was doing Dre's in Vegas, Like, God, just
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: can't fucking hang. These guys do the fucking normal club.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Then they go do after hours. Walk outside of the club,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: it's fucking one hundred degrees and the little sun is out.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Bron They're they're different. They're like literally he pulled up
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: to the shoot I think, like hours after he had
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: just got back from doing uh not a Reno. He
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: was just in Reno. So he hops out the car
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: and like his pajamas and he's like his whole team
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't know how he's awake right now.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: He's been up for Dad da Dad. Yeah, he's lit though,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: he lit boy, he's good for it and he's and
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: he's just dropping an album and shit too, like, yeah,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: no album comes out September twenty fourth, bom these things
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: happened to you feel me? But yeah, no, he's so
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: he's on some genuine shit, Like he was giving me
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: mad advice on shoot too, because he goes back with Benner,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: my manager, and he was just like, I don't know,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: you can tell, Like he pulled up and he was
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: like he like cared about it. Side not side note.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Benner might be the coolest name ever real Benner Benner.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: That's hard, I guess, so I aint never gave him
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: the credit for that one, but yeah, I ended a
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: bad name, but yeah, what's your name? My name is Benner?
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Brouh Benner over you feel they go, they go, they go,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: You're hell up Benner over God damn not. Everywhere we
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: go they'd be like Bennett and he's like, nah Benner
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: and they're like whoa, okay, Bets Yeah, good dude, bro
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: for real. So uh, boulevard boy, Yes, you have a
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: tattooed on your hands? I did. I tatted it on
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: my hands. Was this prior to you making this your album? Yeah? No,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: it was. It was prior just because Bull Ofward Boys
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: is the I grew up on amb On Boulevard and
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: then me and my friend's LLC, Like, our business is
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: below our boys, what's the LLC and what do you guys,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: what kind of business you guys in besides the music?
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: It's just that. Yeah, it's just I don't know if
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: they got a pizza places or something about pizza restaurant.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I'm really trying to Like, I grew up in uh
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: like right next to a pizza place, and I started
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: working there when I was like sixteen. That's like, how
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: about a microphone and shit in the laptop. But I
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: just did a pizza there for the album, to have
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: my own pizza work behind the counter and everything. It
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: was lit and I was talking to them. I was like,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: let's open up a second one. Let's do it. Let's
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: do it, Let's do it. So you never know. That's
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: funny you say that too, because like I genuinely want
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: to like invest in that ship. If you could open
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: any type of restaurant would be like, what would it
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: be outside of a pizza place because obviously you want
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: to do Yeah, pizza is only I just worked there,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: and I feel like I know most passionate about man,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: it's not American food and it would feel greasy. I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: don't know. My friend does a Native American and soul
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: food combined. And because I'm Navajo, so like like from
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: the rest and everything, so like it would be tight
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: for me to have like a fusion native restaurant kind
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: that you feel me because my homie is like half black,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: half Native, and you feel me. So he's he's like,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like shit, we could like so it's like fry bread.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: So it's like yeah, it's like classic soul dishes, but
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: like with Native American twists, so like frybread or like
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: stews and just that is a movie. Bro. I know
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I'm tailing you, bro, telling you like now you have
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: like friedbred tacos, like I mean from Arizona. There's a
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: bou you from Arizona, Bro, So you know you're around.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: But that's the thing, Bro. You meet people who aren't
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: from like the Southwest, and they just look at Natives
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: like they're Mexican or something. They don't even know they're
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: around natives. But people from Arizona you'd be like, oh no,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: yeah around. Like my high school was like the Reds
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: started like half a mile from my high school, so
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: all the homies. We all went. You know, my friend
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Doug is native. He's an Avajo. My family from Fort Defiance,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: like window rock up and like, uh, I forgot, like
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: a couple years ago, I posted a picture my boy
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Doug and he's like, yo, man, he's putting on for us. Bro.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah I remember that. Yeah man, No, it's yeah man,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the natives show us love because it's not no Native
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: rappers out here. Really. Yeah. I think the only other
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Native rapper was I think it was some dude signed
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: as like fucking Psychopathic Records or some ship back in
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the day. I think it was some guy named ab
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: K And I think you put me onto a round.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: You too much about that world? Nah, there's some there's
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: some kids. Now. There's a kid from Arizona called reds
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Coast Gris, Red Coast Gris. My boys, fire, Bro fucking
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: fire had tried called Red like Snotty knows Red Kids
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: shout out to Red Coast Gris. Man, Bro, I'm really
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: fun with him. He's fire, He's he can do everything. Bro.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: He's like like he really looks like one of my
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: cousins or something like I want. I showed him to
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: my dad and my dad flipped. He looks like somebody
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: who laid me out in a like a mosh pit
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: at some point in time when I was like in
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: high school. Bro, he literally looks like my cousin. So
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: like I showed it to my pops. My pops was like,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: whoa that he's fire. Yeah, he's super fire, bro. I
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: mean yeah, it's it's uh, it's weird being a Native
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: wrapper out here. You feel me, But it's cool. It's tight.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: People fuck with us. Yeah, it's it's it's uh, you know,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: coming up like around a bunch of the Native homies,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: like a lot. It was like a lot of the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Native dudes were always into like Tech nine and yeah
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Icph you're gonna say icy p yeah, bro, like the
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: strange music wave and ship yeah yeah. So like yeah,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: like and then I would always like I where it
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: would be like rock shit like the Yes like White
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Stripes or something like yeah, why go to like some
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: hardcore like rock shows anytime, Like could be some giant
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Native jumping the motherfucking mosh pit and it'd just be
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: over for everybody throwing Native bows. Yeah yeah, the Native bows. Nah. Yeah,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's interesting, bro, I'm not gonna lie. Like
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: we'll we'll go play shows in Arizona and it's like
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: a majority Native crowd sometimes and then we'll get and
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: like I'll be on stage, I'm like, damn, I feel
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: like these kids aren't hella turned up? Like I feel
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: like these and then I'll get off and like they're
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: losing their minds, you feel me? So it's just weird,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know, like watching Native people react to
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Native rappers is almost a new thing as well as
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: being a Native rapper. So it's just I don't know,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: it's weird, bro, but it's I love it. Bro. You're
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: half Native, half what half Native? Half white? I mean
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: like German kind of German and Irish. Oh I'm German
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: and Irish, I think. Yeah, my mom doesn't. My Mom's
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: always like, why don't you like talk about that? I'm like,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: you don't care. I'm like, you don't know. First off,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: no one cares, and you don't care. You don't care.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: You know, we never no know German or the last
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: time you made a fucking what's some German? Like last
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: time you made sour crowd? Yeah? But what you feel
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: me like never? But yeah, no, it's so you feel
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: me white lady. But yeah, my time, my wife's always like,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: why don't you ever like rep the I'm like, I
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: just grew up in a white household. It's just white generic.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Just like my parents didn't fucking they weren't like, yo,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: here's a what is the ship of the ship the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Irish people eat the fucking shepherds tie or whatever. Yeah,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: nobody nobody made that were white people. My dad made
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: its one night and the next night salisberry steak. But
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: my mom bro, like my parents were. My parents were
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: chefs in Seattle too, so like they just I've been
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: on different types of food my whole life. So I
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: was like literally like as a kid eating in Jira
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and like fu and I was like, we were not
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: eating as a kid as a baby. Bro, Bro, I'm
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: a big boy because my parents were chefs, and like
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: they put me on everything. My parents just made the
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: basic generic ship. Here's roast, here's meat loaf. No, we
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: ordered pizza. I didn't feel you, I feel you. I
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: feel you now. My parents were chefs at like a hotel.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: That's how that's how they met. So the meals I
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: didn't have flud. So I was like twenty five years old.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Are you serious? Yeah? Wow, I mean Seattle has to
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: have like ajms, like hell vietnames, so it's like we've
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: had fud in like as long as chicken little soup. Yeah,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: it's crazy because Seattle is also like low key, like
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: a baby, like a Silicon Valley. Now, yeah, I mean
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I guess yeah, yeah, it's fucking it up, but it is. Yes.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I went to Seattle and they was like the only
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: the first time I ever saw one of those Amazon
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: stores where there's nobody in it. Oh. Yeah, you can
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: just walk in and just scan your going on here. Bro.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: It's very different now, and they like I'll be walking
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the block and you'll see one of the robots just
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: like going like just delivering something for Amazon. It's insane, bro,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: It's a yeah, it's different, it's super different, but yeah,
• 23:53
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• 25:03
  Speaker 1: So obviously you worked a lot during the pandemic, but
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure you probably did. You Binge watch
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: any TV? Did you get into any gaming? What were
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you doing like at the crib? Like, what was it? Man?
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: We watched? I've watched. I feel like I've watched every
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: horror film probably ever. What's your favorite my favorite horror
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: or give me like three of them? Give me three
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: horror movies. I really like hmm, I ain't gonna lie.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I really fun with this movie called Creep. You ever
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: seen Creep? It's about this guy who like puts out
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: of Craigslist ad and he like tries to get someone
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: to come film his life. It's like an independent movie.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: It's so good, Bro, you gotta watch Creep. I really
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: like Hush. These are I'm newer one because we can
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: go classic, bro, because like class, I haven't seen Hush.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Cush is fire. It's but like a deaf woman who
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: has to defend herself from an intruder. I'm going new
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: You feel me because classic ones? I don't know. I
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: don't I hate debating classic movies when people like master
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: debating classic movies. Yeah for sure, I don't know. What's
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: another one. I'll go classic for the last one. You
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: feel me like? I love the I love the first
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: saw the first Saw is great. First Saw is so good.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: First like two or three were cool, and then this
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: ship just kind of got a little The first Saw
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: was like revolutionary, Bro, you feel me like I love
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: like watching a horror film and you're like, oh, ship,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: this was the base for a bunch of other horror films.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, off for like a whole
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: lot of that kind of ship, Like like I know
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: what she did last summer. It's corny, but like it
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: was a classic irrevolutionized ship, paranormal activity, classic revolutionized ship,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like people hate
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: like appreciating new horror films, which is hell annoying. Do
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: you ever watch Human Centipede? Yeah, that's like a ship
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: was That's like a middle school for fun. Bro. That ship,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: watch that ship. That ship is well. I watched the
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: first one and it was it was disturbing. Bro, it's
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: super But the second one is Oh that I had
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: to turn it off. Yeah, they like fucking smash the
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: baby's head under like a brake pedal in a car.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: It's over. That ship is literally just like a what's
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: it what's the word for? I don't know, but they're
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: just trying. They're just kind of like, yeah, weird you out, shock,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: you make you fucking like uncomfortable, and the shit I
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: can't it's like the six ' nine of like horror movies.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: God damn there's one too. I think people call like
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: a serbian film or some shit that I hear about, Like, bruh,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: that shit is nasty to me. Bro. Yeah, but like
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I was saying, the classic horror films, we ran up
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and it's all kinds of movies, bro like, And I
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: feel like I appreciated music more too, like just sitting
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: in the crib, like I feel like for a long
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: time I felt like a rapper who put words over beats,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: And now I feel like just working on music and
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: like trying to learn chords on the piano and just
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: like trying to understand melody more. I feel way more
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: like a musician now than I ever have done. You
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: feel me now, I'm like, I feel like starting to
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: like learn your I mean, at the end of the day,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: you everyone gets better, bro, Everyone understands music more, because
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: like you said, you could anybody like like, not anybody
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: can rap like you, but anybody can record lyrics over
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: a beat exactly but there's so much more musically, you
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: know that you got to get to really, you know,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: exact same things exactly. And I feel like I needed
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: to sit down for a while to really understand, like
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: and just appreciate music. Like I wasn't putting on music
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: the way I do now. Like before, I'd be like
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I've in music all day, Bro, I'm sick of it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put on the podcasts or something. I don't
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: want to hear music. But now I wake up like
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: excited to like listen to What do you listen to that?
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Like like set it over? Yeah, I mean just like
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: because I feel like sometimes there's like a fine line
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: between that I can't even lie and say that it
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: was someone else's music that made me like fall in
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: love with it. It was really just like appreciating my
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: own music. I think we made like Dead Presi's and Crossfaded,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: like those are like some of the first songs we
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: made for the album, so it was like or like
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: maybe not CrossFit, but anyways, like some of like the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: singles were the first songs we made for the album,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: so it was like, oh shit, these are way better
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: than anything I ever done. How can I keep making
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: these ones again and in the process of like just
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: making a million songs is what made me fall in
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: lover music. You know. What I've been doing lately is
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: like when I'm like trying to get some shit done,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to relax, I throw on some like low
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: fi hip hop instrumentals. That's what you've been on. There's okay,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: there's this like the low fi chill Beats to study you. Yeah. Yeah,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: there's like there's like a loop on YouTube and like
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: bart Simce and just going like this for like ten
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: hours in like a coffee shop or something. Bro, like
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: the what's crazy is the low fi beats and like
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: chill to study playlist on YouTube? Go read the comments
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: it's in because it's a twenty four hour video. Yeah.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: So it's like those comments, bro, they have. People are
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: having whole debates on like under low fi like religious debates,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: master debates, yes, Master debates in the low fi like
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: hip hop beats. They're just going back and forth. It's
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: like a reddit for it's literally like a Reddit farm
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: or like a live tweeting thread. Like, Bro, it's insane. Bro,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's crazy. Okay, Uh, what's better? Donda or
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: certified lover boy. I think, I like, I prefer certified
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: lover boy more, but there aren't there. I think the
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: songs that I love on Donda I love more than
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: the songs I love on If I love Boy, if
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: that makes sense, Like I love pure souls, I love
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: come to Life. Okay, okay, part two, jail Part two, Like,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I love those fucking songs more than I think. I
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: like Way two sex, even though I'm playing with too
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: sexy like five times a day. Yeah, I feel like
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: if you take like the top, like six or seven
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: records off of Donna's it's shipping off. It's amazing. Yeah.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I love Hurricane. I love fucking that off the grid
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: is crazy. Yeah, Bro, But then he plays certified love
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Boy talked to Bottom and you're like, Bro, it's undeniable
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: the hell? Yeah, what are you kidding me? Yeah? That
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: sh it's slap, bro. And I'm not even like I'm
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: not even the biggest Drake fan, like my homies are
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: like the Drake fans, I'm the one that's so you're
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: saying front to back it's undeniable, certified lover boy, Yeah yeah,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: front of back, and for sure, Bro's so it's fire.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: What you mean you don't agree with that? I just
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: think it is the most generic, and I just feel
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: like it was the most uninspired attempt at an album
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I've heard in a long time. You might you played
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: it safe or something. I mean, he always plays the safe.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: But that's the thing, bro, I said, I saw Rory
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: and safe when you're number one. I saw Rory say
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: this on his podcast with Maul. He said that somebody
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: he knew said that it felt like Drake was like
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: making a parody of himself. Oh yeah, And I was like, yeah,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I saw someone be like, what what was the first
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: mixtape that he put out? October's very own? Uh, it
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: wasn't so far gone, it was before that. It was Yeah,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: was it come Uh was the name of that tape?
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: What's the mix? Comeback Season? Yeah? I heard. I heard
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: like the homie Zenie say it was like basically just
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: repurposed Comeback Season, And I was like, damn, that's a
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: crazy take. But no, I don't know. Brother, to me,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: there's no playing it safe when you're that big. Let
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: me ask you, do you like McDonald's. Yeah, of course
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I used to not like McDonald's, but now that I
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: became a touring rapper and the McDonald So McDonald's is
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: the biggest restaurant in the world right for show for sure.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: And in order for it to be the biggest restaurant
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: in the world, it literally has to be good. Now,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: it might not be good like yeah, like McDonald's is fire. Yeah,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's what like, but hot fresh
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: McDonald's ship is. It's a better meal than like most Chris,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I agree, you feel me. I love McDonald's, bro. I
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: used to be a big hater and I started touring
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, McDonald and put you put the
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: fries on your burger. Isaiahsha put me on. He told
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: me he I seen an interview. He was like, yo, bro,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: like you, you show up to McDonald's and you say, hey,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: do you have the time to make this fresh? Like, ill, wait,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I'll wait. And if they got the time to make
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: everything fresh, smacks so crazy. So Drake, you're saying, Drake's
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: like McDonald's. He's the McDonald's a hip hop He's the
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: biggest and he is good as fuck and at times
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: he's fresh. See these fresh McDonald's And Drake is McDonald's
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: he's a different kind of McDonald's because he's like serving
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Filet Mignon's every Now, maybe he's like McDonald's in like Singapore.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, bro, Like, he's gotta if he's McDonald's,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: he's got to be like an like an exquisite McDonald's.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: He's McDonald's. And this album to me was just another
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: big Mac. He knew, look, this this works, it's gonna sell.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Let me just throw another big Mac out there where
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I want to you. I want him to like take
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: some risks creatively, Like I feel like we want that
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and we don't want that, No I do. I mean,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, Bro, you want that because you're a
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: music person. The everyday listener doesn't want that. So I
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's true because you got someone like
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Tyler the creator, or you got someone like Kendrick Lamar
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: who every time Kendrick drops, he is pushing the boundaries
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: of being created. So my thing with Drake is, yes,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: he is the McDonald's of hip hop, which is okay
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: because I love McDonald's. I love Drake. With that being said,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: this album to me just solidified that. I was like, oh,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: this fool is just mailing it in. I feel you,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: But how do you define what's better if like, like
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: if you go out for if you go out for
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the evening, McDonald's will make sense sometime that night. If
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: you go out for the evening, whatever you would compare
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Donda too might not make sense that night for sure.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: McDonald's always makes can quantify with No, McDonald's always makes sense.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: You feel me. It's always convenient, It's always there. But
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna win a James Beard Award. I guess so,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I guess so, Bro, I guess so two different goals
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: man like. And the thing is is I want Drake
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: to put an album out that could win Album of
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the Year at the Grammys, not Hip Hop Album of
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the Year, Album of the Year at the Grammys, because
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: he's that big of an artist. No, I feel you,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I feel You's a it's a fair thing to ask.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I just as a rapper. It's hard for me to
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: even like, I'm just like Bro. The run is like unprecedented, No, no,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: he no one has ever done with Drake's at doing period.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: He's the biggest ever. He's got more hits than anyone ever,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: and his run is longer than anyone's run at the
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: top has ever been. These are all undeniable with jay Z,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: yeah at the top. So you're saying Drake's more legendary
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and jay Z no, no, no, no, no, hoevill rap
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: soircers run Drake and I'll take Jay's catalog over Drake's
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: all day. But but you got to understand. Jay Z's
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: first number one record on Billboard didn't come till nine.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: It was Empire State of Mind on Blueprint three. So
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: the first time jay ever got a number one song
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: was two thousand and nine. It was Empire State of Mind.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Bro? Oh my god? But think
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: about how many number one records Drake has gotten since
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: two thousand and fucking I mean, Drake's been the guy
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: for longer than anyone, and that's insane. I didn't know
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: how it didn't go. Fucking that's insane. I don't know.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: That's wild to me. Wow. Yeah, so I think Drake
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: is that guy. I just and I had an argument,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: like me and Freddy Gibbs ran into Drake at some
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: place out here and we literally argued for an hour
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: about his music with him. I lim, yes, I had
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: to tell him because my boy Erica Rock was with me,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: fred was with me, and I keep the same energy.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: And you could kind of tell. I don't know if
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: he saw some interviews or somebody, you could tell I
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, look man, I just got to keep
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: the same energy, bro, like I always say, like, you're
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: super dope, but I just want more from you. You
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: told him that straight up, straight to Freddy Gibbs as
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: my witness yam bro. And then he started breaking He
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: started breaking down, like, well, you know where I'm from.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I this is what I told him. I said, you
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: don't have a consensus hip hop classic. Now that doesn't
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: mean you looked Drake in the face and said you
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: don't have a consensus hip hop classic. I'll call Freddy
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Gibbs right now and he'll tell you I said that
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: to his face. Oh my god, you're crazy. Then, so
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: then he starts like this dude's passionate. And I respected
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: it because I'm like, who the fuck am I to
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: be arguing with Drake at a bar at the Harriet
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure, He's like
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: he's like pretty much just like you know where I'm from,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: the music is different and what I do. You would
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: never a hip hop guy like you would never consider
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, I think Take Care as a
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: classic to me, But you don't got a doggy style
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: or get richard Ie Trying where nobody can say shit,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: you don't think nothing was the same. He wasn't rapping
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: his ass off. That's my favorite album of his. I
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: mean yeah, because the hip hop guy, you know, that's
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: my favorite album exactly. And I think and I consider
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: that to be like a borderline classic. But but the
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: thing is is like there's these albums that we look
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: at in hip hop that nobody can say shit to
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: you if you call it a classic, right, Illmatic, Doggy Style,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Good Kid, Mass City, right Dirty, My Beautiful, Dart, Twista, Fantasy,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: all these albums. If you call him a classic, there's
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: nobody who has a serious opinion about hip hop will
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: question you, Drake. It's split. Like if I say take
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Care as a classic, I know fifty dudes that are
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: that might be like it was good. It's not a class,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But give it like fifteen
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: years though maybe. But yeah, but like Good Kid, Mad City,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: My Beautiful is a fantasy. These these these albums are classics.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Take Care as a classic, I think it is. I think,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: but I think that in the within the hip hop community,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a consensus classic. I don't think
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: everyone's like really, I don't think so. Damn. I get
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: and I love take Care and I love Drake. I
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: was just born in ninety six or Drake is just
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: like Damn, you were born in ninety six. I feel
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: me so like Drake has been a thing since I
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: was like nine, since you were listening to music. Yeah, no,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah, literally, I remember Draking signed. You know
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I'm oldest dirt bro, shit,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I was born in eighty seven. You're born in eighty seven.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's not to your lit though, because you can
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: say you were born in the eighties, but you're not
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: old yet for real. Isaiahshad gave me the most backhanded compliment.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: He said, we're talking about uh I forget what we're
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: arguing about some shit, And I was like, uh, I
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: was like, bro, I'm not even that old. Bro. No,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: what did he say? He's like, you're an old head
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: or some shit, And I'm like, bro, you're aren't you thirty.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I'm like Bron thirty four, relaxed. He's like,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: you're only thirty four. And he was like, at first
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I thought you were an old head who looked young.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. He's like, now you're just a young head
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: that looks old. I said, what does that mean? That's crazy. No,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I would have I would have assumed mid thirties. That's crazy. Damn.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't know Isaiah was thirty though. Yeah, I mean,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: motherfuckers be old man fuckers be. I just hated off
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: with the right after that. But I'm about to be
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: twenty five this month though, so I feel like I'm
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: getting there. Who is Like you're like, if you had to, like,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: you know, let's say this, what are your like top
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: three or four albums all time, like all genre anything.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: So the three albums through I'll say the albums that
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: shaped me for real were like the first one was
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: like the first piece of music I ever fell in
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: love with, and that was like American Idiot by green Day.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I think that shit came out like when I was
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: like years old or something like that. That was a moment. Yeah,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: that like changed. I was like, that's when I like
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: really fell in love with Me. It was like a
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: whole that album. Yeah. Still it's like on Broadway still
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: and everything. Bro. But like so America, idia bout Green
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Day College Dropout. I found that around the same time. Yeah,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I was, and those were like I had like two
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: albums on my my like three gig MP three player,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I like Green Day
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: and Kanye were like what I was running like those
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: two albums and then uh, the Curtain Call was just
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: like the eminem compilation album was like, yeah, it was
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: the greatest hits that was in my dad's car all
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: the time. So those three plus like the Score by
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the Fujis, those four albums were like when I think
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: about my childhood, that's what was being played. Who was
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: listening to the Score around you? My dad Like, my
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: dad like put me onto all that. Okay, Yeah, my
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: dad and my sister were our big music. He said,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: the Curtain Call and that was the greatest hits. Yeah, no,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: that's what. But that's how you know I'm a kid.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: You feel me like I didn't know about the Slim
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Shady LP until I had had you feel me so like, yeah,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: but my dad was a big like Public Enemy Fan two.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: But those four albums were like the ones that I
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: like would steal and be like these are my albums.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: How big of a deal is it? Like being a kid.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: And then the Macklamore album comes down twenty twelve, and
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: he had always been independently successful in like a name
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: like in the underground, you know, but things really changed
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: when that album came out. I mean it changed everything
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: for the whole city, Like nothing would be the same
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: after that. And I also feel like we got to
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: a point where like we stop respecting Maclamore for some
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: reason when he's like legitimately like the nicest dude ever,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: has the best morals, is probably one of the most
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: transparent artists of all time. He was He was quality
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: fucking music, Thank you, brother. He was. He was dealt
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: a shitty like Internet hand in the sense of like
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: he had a crazy haircut beat Kendrick for the Grammy.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I really think that's all
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: it was. It was literally just him beating Kendrick for
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: the Grammy. Everyone's allowed to be corny, bro, or everyone's
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: allowed to be seen as corny to everyone. Like You're like,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: but that's you can't knock someone for that, But when
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: they've taken award that you felt like should have went
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: to the one of greatest hip hop albums all time,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: how are you not going to become like an enemy
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: in people's But that didn't stop, bro, Like, I ain't
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: gonna lie. Like after that whole shit happened, he took
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: me on tour and like he like helped put me
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: on you know what I'm saying, And like he's and
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: bro like he has he consistently does ship for the
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: city that he doesn't even like talk about. And yeah,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: it's one of the things where it's like people always
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: got an opinion and I get it because I but
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. It's been very telling, like to
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: like I watched people who like, don't fuck with him,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: but fuck with me, but don't fuck with him for
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: the same reasons that like they fuck like I'm just
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: you feel me. I'll just feel well, he just gets
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: a bad rep reason you feel me. I'll be walking
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: around Seattle and then like the people I'm around will
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: say something about Mac and I'm like, okay, okay, well
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: let me get these hits off. Y'all. Ain't gonna fuck
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: with me in like two years, you feel me because
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I just be knowing. Bro. It's like motherfuckers always has
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: shit to say, but it is what it is, bro,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Like everyone's allowed to have an opinion and shit. But
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: like I just think like Maclamore for whatever reason, Like
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: you know, I really think it was the Kendrick moment,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: but I think like we just forget like how good
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: the music was. He hasn't put on music in a
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: couple of years, but it's still is very good. So
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I don't want to bro like he and he's like
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: an independent anomaly like thrift Shot Diamond Song and it's
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: an independent, independent diamond song. Like people different kind of
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: bread like Kim and Ryan Lewis are so stupidly you
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, bro, Like, and they brought so
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: much to the game when it comes to just their visuals.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: There will never be another artist like Chance or like
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Maclamore or like these are independent anomalies. And I'm gonna
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: be honest, bro, like when people say like independent and
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: they're really not independent. Maclamore wasn't that and the reason
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: and and some people don't know, bro, they don't know
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: he literally just hired of Labels radio staff to work
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: his records, like he wasn't signed because he had Warner
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Brother working all his ship to radio. But he wasn't
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: signed to Warner Brother. He literally just hired. Yeah. I
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: already know, bro, and he's just been solid from jump
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: for me. Bro, Like anytime that he's like what you
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: got going on, I'm like, oh, I'm talking about the
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: send me the contractors. When he got it, Bro, let
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: me see it, you feel me, like you know what
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I mean? And he does that for people. I think
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: he also broke down so many walls for like, you know,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: just transparency and rap, like you know the fact, like
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: he talked about his drug addiction so openly and to
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: be pissing me off too because I feel like he
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: came from like this hip hop background, like he was
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: on some backpack He was on some backpack ship. But
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: then when he blew up, all the backpack fans were like,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: you're not this anymore. It's like, Bro, like really listen
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: because there are those songs you just don't like it
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: for your face. Now. That should that should be getting
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: to me, Bro. That should happens every time White Backpack
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: has anytime someone it's all love I'm a white backpack head.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I know those white backpack fans are weird.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Are weird, bro, But it's we're both those guys, so
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: we can't hate on them. You know quite a bit?
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: What percentage of your fan base or Juggalos? A few?
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie a few because because I'm just
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: a chubby, weird looking dude. So we attract like chubby
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: weird looking dudes to the shows. You feel me Like
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: people pull up and they're like, hey, bro, like repping
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: their cattus. You feel me they might be wearing some
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: crazy ship. It like like a lot of like, uh,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the chain wallets, you know what I'm saying. Especially when
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: you're in Arizona. You see that, You see how all
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: that ship? You feel me? All out of Native kids
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: out there, we dread like the rocker kids exactly. Would
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: you ever? Would you ever take the bag to do
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: the gathering of the Juggalos? Man? If I was an
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: artist who I felt like they would be recepted, well yeah,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: hell yeah, I would do it. Bro. I would I
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: want to go to the gathering regardless. But even if
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I'm I want to go just to like experience brore
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: you kidding me? The skate park I grew up at
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: like it was ran basically it was the skaters versus
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: the Juggalos. Every day. It was like it would be
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: like thirty of us skaters every day and then like
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: thirty the Jugglos kind of like lived at the park.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: You feel me, So like anytime the cops pulled up,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: the Juggalos will blame us. We blame the Juggalos, you
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: feel me. It's the Juggalos. Yeah, literally they're clearly on
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: mess literally, bro, Yeah, no, we had we we were
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: getting big brawls with the Juggalos and ship. But at
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: the end, like once you grow up you realize, hey, man,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Icype's legendary. Bro. I no, no, no, ICP. I gain
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: hated on it my whole childhood because I didn't fuck
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: with Juggalos, you feel me, my whole life. Like my
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: cousin will come over, he'd have an ICP show on. Bro,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: you're corny for that, like take that ship off, No,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: for sure. And then I became a musician and I'm like,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: oh my god, well the music is terrible. But we
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: talked at that one like the homies. That ship that's
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: a slapper cousin. My cousin was into an album called
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: The Great Malenko when I was a kid, and it
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: was like all right because it was like funny because
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: they were like doing like weird, like horror core shit.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: But what I'll say about them is like they really
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: laid the blueprint for so much of the independent ship,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: so much of the merch ship going on right now,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: saying all these festivals that go on, Yeah, they laid
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: like everyone having a festival. ICP had their festival first.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: You feel me like ICP ran up the merch before everybody.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: They got to be so stupid. We were talking about
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: that the other day. We were like, literally it might
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: have been two days ago. I was like, how much
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: you think ICP is worth? And they were like, Bro,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: they were nationally recognized as a gang by the like,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: by the FBI. They're bredded. You know, they got bread, Dude,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: they're breaded. Shout out ICP, but I don't listen to it.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: But that's their legends. Yeah, you know, they're legends for sure.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: I hope I get to you know, I think I
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: met and Jena and then Bro. The fact that they're
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: fans ride for that shit so hard. Is so crazy
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: to me, Like the fan base they've built, I don't
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: fucking get it, Like you know what it's I feel
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: like it started to slow down a bit because because
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: those fans are like forty now with kids for sure,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and you'll see somebody. I remember I saw somebody at
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: the park like a couple of years ago that looked
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: like he just got off from a corporate ass job
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: playing with his kids the hachetat and he had the
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: hatchet tattoo on his calf yep, And I was like,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, man, I remember like like being at school
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: and the ta or never it would never be a teacher,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: but like someone who employee of the school would like
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: slide his sleeves up to like help you with the problem,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: and you like it's a hatchet on his arm, and
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: you're like, it's like you're a juggalo. You grew up
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: like a white collar guy, you know what I'm saying, Like, shit,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: it's that in the Cottonmouth Kings. Dudes, Oh yeah, they
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: go wow, yeah. Yeah. It was like a whole like
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: nice little underbelly of my high school. Shout out to
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the Cottonmouth Kings. I went to all those shows ICP
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: would fucking launch fucking Fago fucking two leaders into the crowd. No,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I remember it, Bro, growing up to the skate park.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: They do Fago showers and ship like they'd have like
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I swear to god. Bro, they get like they get
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: like the twenty four pack and they dump it on
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: them my bro in the park, in the park, Bro,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: and they'd film it with their cell phones and be
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: like they got initiated into this, Bro. I'm not lying.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Wa wa wait wait wait, I am not lying. I
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: got run deep with the Juggalos in Seattle. Skaters versus
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: skaters versu Juggalos at the park. It was just out
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: by the Saberian skatepark. I grew up okay so near Seattle. Yeah,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: skaters versus Juggalos at the park. You would witness Juggalos
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: being initiated into the Juggalo circle with a Fago shower
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: with Fago showers, Bro and yeah, and they would film
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: it and then like they might they might even like
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: jump them into. Bro. It was the Jugglers off the skatepark.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I grew up out. We're on some crazy shit for sure,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: and they come smoke. They'd like go on the ground
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: where they stick up little cigarettes, like but cigarette butts
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: and shit. Yeah, the girls be coming up trucking for
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: like so low and we're like thirteen year olds and
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: we're like, no, when I go buy vagina, we're like thirteen, dude.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: That's the one thing. Like it was insane. Bro. I
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: would always like, you know, I'm real close to Tech nine,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: so I've probably been no fifty Tech nine shows. Like, man,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: the Tech nine groupies got to be the ugliest groupies.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: You're greasiest, fu Christ, I can't imagine. I can't imagine
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: what the jugg lets look like out here. I mean,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: shout out strange music men and no, I look Travis
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: women who let all those guys. But it's like, you know,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: rit Ritz is the right white. He's one of my
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: best friends, right. I love Rits, but I have fucking
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. The Ritz concert. The bitches that show up,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: you're sore. They look like my aunt, they look like
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: my aunt Wendy. You're fucked up, bro, Oh my god.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: These women are out here just trying to show up
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: and support it, and they're like, look, I got a
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Ritz tattoo on my calf, and you're like, you're greasy
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: you're greasy. Yeah, I bet you do. All right, you
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: have someone tattoo your face yet, Yeah, I'm not. I'm not.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: What's we've been We got a bunch of lyrics shit
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: for like years now. But my first portrait was on
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: like this kid's leg. He showed up to our show
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: like last month and was he like a normal normal dude.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: What yeah, like the cool and he's you know, he's
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: been rock with us for years. Like he pulled up
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, I'm at Mikey Stays baked,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, yeah, I know this at and
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: you know when someone pulls yeah, like you've been fucking
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: with me for a long time. But Bro, I'm not
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: gonna lie to you. It was one of the biggest
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: trips in my whole life. Look at the ship. Zoom
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: in on his ship zooming like it's a full portrait
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: on the back of his leg. That ship tripped me out. Bro,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: shout out to Mikey stays baked, Mikey stays bad. You
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: feel me? Yeah? No, that keeping those camels shorts a lie,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: li bro puts you in perspective because I'll wake up
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: and I'll just be depressed and I'm like, well, fuck,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: so Mikey's got my face got hard for Mikey, you
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: feel me? Otherwise he's gonna look crazy. Oh my mama, Bro,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: you keep me. I gotta can't say nothing crazy too.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: You gotta be working hard, can't. You gotta be a
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: good person. Do you ever like worried? Do you ever
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: like worry about like being too transparent or honest, like
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: because it's so easy to get canceled now, No, I don't.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I don't worry about getting canceled just because, like, bro,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: like I grew up doing like uh like beating up Juggler.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: But like when I got into high school, I did
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: like spuggle with poetry and ship. So they put us
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: through like like social justice workshops and shit, so like
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: the empathy didn't running deep for me. It's like, no,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: it's not even about that. It's to get nervous on
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: some like like I'm just like a contrarian ass person
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: and just like I feel like I'm too opinionated, so
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: like I'll be I'll get on Twitter one day and
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: be like damn, like Coleslaw is fucking ass. Anyone who
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: eats Coleslaw is an idiot for real, and then people
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: be like, damn, bro, I just got your shit tatted.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: And I love Coleslaw, Bro, and I feel like I
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: just let him down or some shit. You feel me.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I don't worry about getting canceled. I feel like just
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: like becoming someone that people are like, Oh, that guy's
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: a dick. Listening to a lot of what podcasts you
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: listen to? Shit, I don't know. I listened to Rory
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: and Mall's podcast, I Fuck with Rory, I Fuck with
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Bad Friends podcast, and Andrew Santino and Bobby Lee one.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I like the million dollars worth the Game one. Obviously.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: I love Drink Champs. You feel me. Drink Champs is great. Yeah,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Andrews and Bobby Lee shit is hilarious. Bro. I think
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: they're like, that's not my favorite podcast, Brother Andrews and
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: was about to be a store. I feel like, oh,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: for sure, especially that Dave money coming in not. I'm
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: genuinely who's your favorite? Like, obviously, if you're in the
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: stand up comedian what's it called? My My parents and
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: my dad specifically are like stand up nerves. You feel me?
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: So Like every time we're out in New York in
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: LA we always try to catch a stand up show,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: but Comedy Store for a long time. I really fucked
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: with yeah, comedy Store, but uh, Andrew Santino fucked with
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: him for a long time. I really like Gavin Mattz,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: this guy named Jack Knight. He's from Mount in Seattle.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Who else. But then I also like, like obviously like
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: John Mulaney and like Pete Holmes. You feel me and yeah, bro,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: all over the place we be at comedy events, like
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I go to comed I love it, bro. Yeah, that
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: was the hardest part about everything. Shut down the fuck
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: out the art form. Bro, you just pull up to
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: the comedies. There's nothing like like taking your girl to
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: the comedy story, eating some fucking shitty food, getting some
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: drinks and just watching like twenty comics. You feel me
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: and you never know who's gonna pull up, like for sure,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Like literally we went to the Comedy Store last time
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I was out here like a year ago, and it
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: was like it was it was it was like a
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: not even a theme night. It was like some random
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: people you've never heard of. But then Andrew Santino did
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: a set, Mark Marin did a set, Like all these
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: random like people, but oh, I've seen them in the
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Netflix show, like we're just popping out. That's and being
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: in a comedy city is such a you feel me like, yeah,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I went. I mean I would have been a few
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: times where like Mark Lawrence hopped on, I mean, yeah,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: that's different. Then like Joe Rogan wasn't supposed to be on,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: but he came on and did some ship and then
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: you know who I think it's hilarious. It's fucking Tim Dillon.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Oh I know, yeah, Yeah, he's funny. Yeah. I like
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Tim Dillon because I think he breaks everyone's brains because
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: he's like a gay dude. Yeah, but he also like
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: just doesn't give a fuck. He didn't give a fuck.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: That was a maniac. Bulevard Boy is out obviously crazy
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: features on it. You got a Geezy on there, boogie
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: on their Juicy j is on there. You feel me? Yeah?
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Tat to Juicy J Man. Yeah No, that's like my
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: favorite song and world do you feel me? Like? Getting
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: the juicy vocals back and hearing my hook come after
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: his fucking verse was like a moment. Are you already
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: working on new music? Uh? Yeah, we're I only came
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: out like a month ago, so we're now back in
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: on some like we've been sitting around for like three weeks,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: so we have to kind of like if you're doing
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: in the studio create, yeah, you feel me. If you're
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: not in the studio every day as a rapper, you
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: almost feel like you're bullshitting. What about touring, Like, obviously
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: it's it's a little little supposed to go on tour.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: We're supposed to be on tour right now, but it
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: got canceled because of this whole delta shit. But I'm
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: about to announce like tomorrow, I think like we're doing
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: New York LA and then do the whole West coast runt. Yeah,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: I've been seeing like some artists have just been canceling
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: their tours because, yeah, they don't want to put their
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: fans through the thing. But I'm like, yo, this might
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: be kind of the new normal, So you guys should
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: just fucking get over it. And I mean, it definitely
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: is the new normal for sure. Like this shit's not
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: going like there's gonna be venues where you have to
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: be vaccinated to get in. There's gonna be venues where
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: they want you to have a test or pull up
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: and take your oh my mama, bro. Yeah, it's gonna
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: be like that for a long fucking time. Yeah. Well, yeah,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: go support the album. Yeah, go support the album. Come
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: see me in New York, a l A. And we're
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: doing a bunch of shows down on the West Coast soon.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: So yeah, man, there it is. There's merch. I'm sure
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: you got a website, Yeah, bull ambomb Boulevard dot com
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: or Bulevard boy dot com. Did you say n bomb
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: and bomb The Head does that same ship, Man, Jesus,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: you're hell of funny Ambomb Boulevard dot com at the
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: boulevard boy dot com. You know what everything Head will
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: ask you a question in which if you answer it,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: no matter what the answer is, it's racist. Shout out Head, bro,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: that's my brother. Yeah, he's a wild boy man. It'll
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: be like yo, caa. I won't even say he knows
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: what he does with the fact everyone knows what what's
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: coast there is West Coast